{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/zs2k64bh80/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Uhry, Alene Fox"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1985-11-22 (creation)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAlene Fox Uhry interviewed by Ruth Zuckerman in Atlanta, Georgia on three different occasions throughout the late 1980s.\u003c/p\u003e (general)","\u003cp\u003eAlene Fox Uhry was born on September 2, 1909 in Atlanta to Lena Guthman Fox (1877-1973) and Alfred Fox (1876-1932). The family belonged to the Temple. Lena went to college to learn to be a teacher and taught in Atlanta for 10 years, including taching the future mayor of Atlanta, William Hartsfield. Both sides of the family originated in Germany but her mother was born in Atlanta and her father was born in Illinois. Alfred was in the furniture industry and trade and owned a company called Fox Manufacturing Company.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlene attended Sunday school at the Temple and her mother regularly attended Saturday morning services, taking Alene with her, otherwise the family was entirely assimilated and both parents were heavily involved in the cultural, artistic and civic life of Atlanta as well as in the Jewish community.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlene went to Atlanta public schools including Girls’ High School, and then attended Wellesley College in Massachusetts, where she majored in psychology, graduating in 1930.  In 1931 she married Ralph Kahn Uhry (1904-1955), who was originally from near New Orleans, Louisiana.  They had two children: Dr. Ann Uhry Abrams (b. 1934) and Alfred Fox Uhry (b. 1936), now a well-known playwright. Her husband continued in the furniture business, although his avocation was painting, photography and other artistic pursuits.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlfred had a wonderful voice and through both of her parents Alene was exposed to opera, music, and theater from an early age. Over the course of her life, Alene volunteered for many organizations including with the High Museum, Woodruff Arts Center, the Atlanta Symphony, the Jewish Welfare Fund, Child Services and Family Counseling Center, the Community Relations Committee, and others.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlene’s daughter, Ann, married Edward Abrams (1927-2007) and went on to obtain a PhD in Art History and a career in art appraisal and writing. Alfred married Dr. Joanna \"Jolly\" Kellogg (1937-2019) and has had a stellar career in the theater world with books and musicals (among others) including \"Last Night at Ballyhoo,\" \"Driving Miss Daisy\" (also a movie), and \"Parade.\"  At the time of the interview Alene had seven grandchildren.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlene Fox Uhry passed away in Atlanta on October 17, 2002. She was 93 years old.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eAlene discusses her childhood in Atlanta including getting a minimum Jewish education and her family’s general assimilation into the wider Atlanta community. She recalls how her parents, who were very interested in the arts and music, exposed her to the cultural world of Atlanta. She recounts her mother’s career as a teacher and some of her more prominent students. She recalls being part of a very close-knit but extended family and the conservative upbringing she acquired, which heritage she reflects carried on into her own family and children. She also recalls the small town life style of Atlanta in the 1920s and 1930s, its neighborhoods, ethnic communities, and growth and development.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eShe remembers how, as a young child, she was embarrassed by her family’s association with Germany (both sets of grandparents came from Germany) during periods of time when the word \"German\" was anathema in the United States. She also describes incidents of antisemitism, most of them in her adulthood, and most manifesting through exclusion from certain clubs and her uncomfortableness with meetings of her various organizations and institutions that were held at places like the Piedmont Driving Club. She also recalls the tension surrounding the visits of the Metropolitan Opera, when Leontyne Price was performing, and where they would be able to stay.  Alene recalls the Jewish communities, the clubs, and separation between the various sects of Judaism, the attitude of Temple members towards Zionism and civil rights and the process of integration in Atlanta.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlene shares her observations on Dr. David Marx and his approach to Reform Judaism and also discusses Rabbi Jacob Rothschild’s time at the Temple, his outspokenness, the Temple bombing in 1958 and the upwelling of the Atlanta community’s support, the Civil Rights Movement, the uproar over the dinner for Martin Luther King, Jr. after he won the Nobel Peace Prize. Alene expresses her admiration for both men, for different reasons.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlthough very young, Alene witnessed the reaction of her family during the Leo Frank trial and lynching. She remembers seeing her father coming home every day from work. As he walked up the street he waved a newspaper, usually featuring a large black headline, at her mother. This, Alene knew, meant general gloom in the household as that would be the only topic of conversation that evening.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eShe reminisces about being invited in 1936 to a tea to introduce a new author, Margaret Mitchell, and her novel set in Atlanta during the Civil War, Gone with the Wind. Alene bought a book (she thought it was a little expensive) and set it aside. When she did pick up it she found that she could not put it down. Alene witnesses in detail the opening of the film in Atlanta, the balls (she was able to attend), parades, opening night, the stars and the showing of the movie. Alene spoke about participating in the making of the film from her son Alfred Uhry’s play, Driving Miss Daisy, in Atlanta and her participation with various versions of the play here in the United States and England including the actors, costumes, and production.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlene discusses her marriage, her husband’s many artistic talents, their friends and social life and mentions the education and careers of both her children, Ann and Alfred, and their children and recalls her husband’s artistic talents and her participation in community and Jewish activities such as Child Services and Family Counseling Center, United Way, High Museum, Atlanta Symphony Orchestra, the Atlanta College of Art, the National Council of Jewish Women and the American Jewish Committee. She notes that her children, and now herself, have become much more observant of Jewish holidays. \u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28042"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAlene Fox Uhry interviewed by Ruth Zuckerman in Atlanta, Georgia on three different occasions throughout the late 1980s.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eAlene Fox Uhry was born on September 2, 1909 in Atlanta to Lena Guthman Fox (1877-1973) and Alfred Fox (1876-1932). The family belonged to the Temple. Lena went to college to learn to be a teacher and taught in Atlanta for 10 years, including taching the future mayor of Atlanta, William Hartsfield. Both sides of the family originated in Germany but her mother was born in Atlanta and her father was born in Illinois. Alfred was in the furniture industry and trade and owned a company called Fox Manufacturing Company.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlene attended Sunday school at the Temple and her mother regularly attended Saturday morning services, taking Alene with her, otherwise the family was entirely assimilated and both parents were heavily involved in the cultural, artistic and civic life of Atlanta as well as in the Jewish community.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlene went to Atlanta public schools including Girls’ High School, and then attended Wellesley College in Massachusetts, where she majored in psychology, graduating in 1930.  In 1931 she married Ralph Kahn Uhry (1904-1955), who was originally from near New Orleans, Louisiana.  They had two children: Dr. Ann Uhry Abrams (b. 1934) and Alfred Fox Uhry (b. 1936), now a well-known playwright. Her husband continued in the furniture business, although his avocation was painting, photography and other artistic pursuits.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlfred had a wonderful voice and through both of her parents Alene was exposed to opera, music, and theater from an early age. Over the course of her life, Alene volunteered for many organizations including with the High Museum, Woodruff Arts Center, the Atlanta Symphony, the Jewish Welfare Fund, Child Services and Family Counseling Center, the Community Relations Committee, and others.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlene’s daughter, Ann, married Edward Abrams (1927-2007) and went on to obtain a PhD in Art History and a career in art appraisal and writing. Alfred married Dr. Joanna \"Jolly\" Kellogg (1937-2019) and has had a stellar career in the theater world with books and musicals (among others) including \"Last Night at Ballyhoo,\" \"Driving Miss Daisy\" (also a movie), and \"Parade.\"  At the time of the interview Alene had seven grandchildren.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlene Fox Uhry passed away in Atlanta on October 17, 2002. She was 93 years old.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eAlene discusses her childhood in Atlanta including getting a minimum Jewish education and her family’s general assimilation into the wider Atlanta community. She recalls how her parents, who were very interested in the arts and music, exposed her to the cultural world of Atlanta. She recounts her mother’s career as a teacher and some of her more prominent students. She recalls being part of a very close-knit but extended family and the conservative upbringing she acquired, which heritage she reflects carried on into her own family and children. She also recalls the small town life style of Atlanta in the 1920s and 1930s, its neighborhoods, ethnic communities, and growth and development.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eShe remembers how, as a young child, she was embarrassed by her family’s association with Germany (both sets of grandparents came from Germany) during periods of time when the word \"German\" was anathema in the United States. She also describes incidents of antisemitism, most of them in her adulthood, and most manifesting through exclusion from certain clubs and her uncomfortableness with meetings of her various organizations and institutions that were held at places like the Piedmont Driving Club. She also recalls the tension surrounding the visits of the Metropolitan Opera, when Leontyne Price was performing, and where they would be able to stay.  Alene recalls the Jewish communities, the clubs, and separation between the various sects of Judaism, the attitude of Temple members towards Zionism and civil rights and the process of integration in Atlanta.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlene shares her observations on Dr. David Marx and his approach to Reform Judaism and also discusses Rabbi Jacob Rothschild’s time at the Temple, his outspokenness, the Temple bombing in 1958 and the upwelling of the Atlanta community’s support, the Civil Rights Movement, the uproar over the dinner for Martin Luther King, Jr. after he won the Nobel Peace Prize. Alene expresses her admiration for both men, for different reasons.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlthough very young, Alene witnessed the reaction of her family during the Leo Frank trial and lynching. She remembers seeing her father coming home every day from work. As he walked up the street he waved a newspaper, usually featuring a large black headline, at her mother. This, Alene knew, meant general gloom in the household as that would be the only topic of conversation that evening.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eShe reminisces about being invited in 1936 to a tea to introduce a new author, Margaret Mitchell, and her novel set in Atlanta during the Civil War, Gone with the Wind. Alene bought a book (she thought it was a little expensive) and set it aside. When she did pick up it she found that she could not put it down. Alene witnesses in detail the opening of the film in Atlanta, the balls (she was able to attend), parades, opening night, the stars and the showing of the movie. Alene spoke about participating in the making of the film from her son Alfred Uhry’s play, Driving Miss Daisy, in Atlanta and her participation with various versions of the play here in the United States and England including the actors, costumes, and production.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlene discusses her marriage, her husband’s many artistic talents, their friends and social life and mentions the education and careers of both her children, Ann and Alfred, and their children and recalls her husband’s artistic talents and her participation in community and Jewish activities such as Child Services and Family Counseling Center, United Way, High Museum, Atlanta Symphony Orchestra, the Atlanta College of Art, the National Council of Jewish Women and the American Jewish Committee. She notes that her children, and now herself, have become much more observant of Jewish holidays. \u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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I am Ruth Zuckerman interviewing Alene Fox Uhry at her\nhome [at] 3780 Paces Ferry Road, Northwest, Atlanta, Georgia. The date is\nNovember 22, 1985. Alene Fox Uhry was born September 2, 1909, in Atlanta, to\nLena Guthman Fox and Alfred Fox. Alene ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"went through Atlanta public schools and\nWellesley College [Wellesley, Massachusetts], graduating in 1930. [In] 1931,\n[Alene] married Ralph Uhry. They had two children, Ann and Alfred; both married.\nAlene has seven grandchildren. She has always worked as volunteer and staff in\nthe social service field. She was also always interested in the arts. She serves\non several boards, such as Honorary Board Member of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Child Services and Family\nCounseling Center; the United Way Agency, on the Advocacy Committee; a board\nmember of the High Museum; the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra; Atlanta College of\nArt; and the American Jewish Committee. Alene, I'm going to make it easy by\nhaving us start at the very beginning with your parents, where they came from\nand how they came to settle in Atlanta; when you were born; ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and recollections of\nyour childhood, your home life, your parents, your grandparents, and your\nsiblings. We'll take it from there.\n\nUHRY: My parents came from different places. My mother was born in Atlanta on\nForsyth Street near the Rich's store. She was born in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1878. That was really not\na very long time after the \"War Between the States,\" as we call it here.\n\nZUCKERMAN: What was her name?\n\nAlene Her name was Lena Guthman. She was the last of, I think, seven children.\nHer mother died when she was a baby. She was brought up in this big family by an\naunt and older sisters. She went through the Atlanta ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public school [system].\nLater she was fortunate enough to go to college, which was very unusual in\nAtlanta in those days. She went to Peabody Normal School [Nashville, Tennessee].\nAfter that, she was a schoolteacher. She never got over being one. She taught in\nthe Atlanta public schools for about ten years. She had friends all her life. .\n. students she had taught. . . ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mayor [William B.] Hartsfield, who was one that\nshe was very proud of. My father, on the other hand, was born in La Porte,\nIndiana, which is near Chicago [Illinois]. He grew up in a town near Chicago\ncalled Streator, Illinois. He had relatives in Chattanooga [Tennessee]. As a\nvery young man, he went to work for his relatives in Chattanooga ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for a while. He\nthen came to Atlanta and set up a furniture manufacturing company.\n\nZUCKERMAN: When was that?\n\nUHRY: I was born in 1909. I think this was about 1907. He started Fox\nManufacturing Company, which later moved to Rome, Georgia. I was born in 1909.\nI'm one of those horrid only children. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know whether. . . I presume that\nI was very spoiled. I don't know. I went through the public schools of Atlanta.\nWhen I was little, we lived in a house very near the [Atlanta-Fulton County]\nStadium. The Jewish people that we knew all lived in that area around the\n[Georgia State] Capitol, and on Washington Street, and on. . . all those ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"places\naround the Stadium. We knew all of our neighbors, Christian and Jewish alike. It\nwas really a small town. We moved from that area when I was nine years old. We\nmoved to the section of Ponce de Leon Avenue and. . . I forget the new name of\nthe street. In those days it was Boulevard. It's probably got another name by\nnow. 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I always am sure that\nthey must have taught fractions in the twelfth grade, because I never learned.\nNevertheless, I went from public school ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Atlanta to Wellesley College. I\ngraduated from there in 1930. [I] returned home for an extremely short\nthree-month business career at the new Davison's-Macy's store in Atlanta in the\npersonnel department.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Is that what you majored in at Wellesley?\n\nUHRY: I majored in psychology at Wellesley. 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Shall I tell you any more about my\nchildhood before we go on?\n\nZUCKERMAN: What are your earliest memories of your ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"home life, your parents, your\ngrandparents, and any anecdotes you can tell me about growing up in Atlanta?\n\nUHRY: I never knew my maternal grandparents. They had both died. I didn't tell\nyou that all my forebears on all sides came from southern Germany. My paternal\ngrandmother was born in Louisville, Kentucky. 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I don't know whether I remember what they look like, or just know\nfrom the pictures.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Do you have any relatives ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Atlanta?\n\nUHRY: Loads of relatives I grew up with. My father had two sisters and a\nbrother, both living here. My mother had two sisters living here. . . two\nsisters and a brother in Savannah [Georgia] with their families. I think I\nremember at the time I had nine or ten first cousins, who were substitute\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"brothers and sisters for me. My family was very close-knit on both sides. My\nmother, I guess by the religion of the day, thought of herself as being\nobservant. However, this was during the years following the [Leo] Frank case. It\nseems to me as I look back. . . I never realized it then. . . a lot of Jews ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in\nAtlanta, particularly in the Reform congregation of the Temple to which we\nbelong, went out of their way to be like everybody else. You always proudly said\nyou were Jewish, but not too Jewish.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Homogenized. . .\n\nUHRY: you were like everybody else. Somehow or another, when I went North and\nmet Jewish people, with my Southern accent I was never. . . or with non-Jews. .\n. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was never picked out as being Jewish. The concept, as you know, was dark,\nvery curly hair, a hook nose, and dressed in a different way, they thought. The\nSouthern Jews didn't seem to fit into all of that. I can remember growing up. .\n. many conversations in my family about the Frank case. 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I think, in those days, we were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trying so hard to\nbe like everybody else. Remember, I'm interpreting it now. I didn't think of it\nat the time. I'm sure that we missed a lot of the families that I have met since\nwho have regular Friday night dinners and big seders, and all the rest.\n\nZUCKERMAN: How did you meet your husband [Ralph Uhry]?\n\nUHRY: My husband moved ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"here from Beaumont, Texas. He was working in a furniture\nstore in Beaumont, Texas. My family bought that store along with others for a\nchain of retail furniture companies. Ralph moved to Atlanta. I guess he was 22\nor 23. I was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"17. We only knew eachother vaguely, because he lived out of\nAtlanta. For a while he lived in various parts of the South. I didn't see much\nof him until my last year in college.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Tell us about your memories of getting married, the celebration, your\nfirst home, your first early experiences being married, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and whether you worked.\n\nUHRY: First of all, let me tell you that my husband's family came from\nLouisiana. His father was born near Strasbourg in Alsace [Germany/France]. His\nmother was born in a little town near New Orleans [Louisiana] called Plaquemine.\n. . P-L-A-Q-U-E-M-I-N-E. . . which means \"persimmon\" in [Cajun] French. 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I forgot what generation she was,\nbecause ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=840.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"her mother was not born in Atlanta, but her mother lived here and her\ngrandparents lived here.\n\nZUCKERMAN: What was your daughter's name?\n\nUHRY: Ann Abrams. She's married with a family. She lives next door. My son,\nAlfred, was born three years later. He now lives in New York with his wife and\nfour daughters. I'm going up there next week to visit them. 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Saturday night was a big night\nto ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go to the movies for 50 cents and get an ice cream soda for 15 [cents]. Those\nyears, in retrospect, seem absolutely wonderful to me. For one thing, we didn't\nworry about money. We didn't have any to worry about. We were so nonchalant,\nthat our daughter was born in 1934. She was always in the smallest class at\nschool, because most people ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"put off having children in those Depression years.\nThat tells you about those days.\n\nZUCKERMAN: That's wonderful. What were your aspirations for your children? What\nif any problems did you have? 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I could see,\ncertainly, the drastic changes that came about when my children were parents ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of\nteenagers. Teenagers were never easy to deal with. I remember when my husband\nused to come home at night, he would say, \"Do we have a crisis or a situation?\"\nThe old thing. . . \"Everybody else is going to climb Stone Mountain and\neverybody else is going swimming and so forth.\" Atlanta was still like a small\ntown, as far as ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we were concerned. My children's friends were my friend's\nchildren, more or less. Today, my grandchildren have the great opportunity of\nknowing people all over the city. They're not those old. . . I call them. . .\n\"cliquey\" groups in Atlanta today. I find Atlanta today a wonderful, marvelous\nplace to live in. A lot of my friends do not. 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My daughter-in-law and her family are members of\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my family. They feel the same way about all of us. Just not me, but my daughter\nand my daughter's children. We have a mixture there. My grandchildren in New\nYork call themselves Jewish. However, they have had no formal Jewish education\nor training [or] education at all, like the ones here who have gone to Reform\ntemples. Their friends are both Jewish and Christian. 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I, and members of my\nfamily and my children, have always had friends ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the Christian community. . .\ngood friends.\n\nZUCKERMAN: You had told me that you were on the boards of several organizations\ndoing voluntary work in various areas. How did you become involved in these\nvarious interests? 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My father [Alfred Fox]\nalways felt so grateful to Atlanta for what it did for him that he was very\nactive in Jewish and civic groups.\n\nZUCKERMAN: This was your father?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UHRY: Just at the time he died, he was vice-president of the Temple. The Temple\nhad just moved into its present location. He was one of the leaders of that\nbuilding campaign.\n\nZUCKERMAN: That was the Temple on Peachtree?\n\nUHRY: Yes. Rabbi [David] Marx and his family were our next-door neighbors for\nyears. You wanted to know how I got involved?\n\nZUCKERMAN: Yes.\n\nUHRY: I think I copied, more or less, what ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my mother and father had done. I\nalways felt an obligation, which I don't remember anybody teaching me, that when\nyou lived in a community, there were certain things you give back to the\ncommunity. As I mentioned, I took work at Emory [University] in psychological\ntesting. I volunteered at. . . it was then called. . . Family Welfare Society,\nwhich is now a United Way agency. . . 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He always said he'd gotten used to eating and he wanted to continue.\nHe was interested in all the. . . he taught me what I know about music, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"painting\nand the rest. We had very little in those days of that sort of thing in Atlanta.\nWe went to Chicago to the furniture mart. I used to go with him when the\nchildren were older. That was when I learned to love symphony concerts, art\nmuseums, and all the rest. My father, in the old days, was an amateur singer in\nall kind of. . . not after I knew him, but before he was married. 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How do you feel about the\nprogress the Museum and the cultural aspects of Atlanta have progressed up to\nthis point?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UHRY: After my husband died, we tried to think of some way to memorialize him.\nWe did that by establishing a print collection at the Museum in 1955. It was a\nlittle tiny museum then, but that seemed to be what they needed at the time. My\nactivity in the Museum is limited ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to going to all the events, and still keeping\nup. I do not choose the prints that go in the room, but I always am interested.\nThey call me when they buy or are looking at some. I participate in that.\nHowever, I've turned most of that over to my daughter who lives next door. She\nis an art historian. She got her PhD. 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There are two functions: try\nto support them materially, and also I take great pleasure in being able to help\nas board members can to introduce people around and familiarize them with ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what's\ngoing on.\n\nZUCKERMAN: You're a wonderful subject. You don't have to be prompted at all.\nLet's see. Where can we take it from there? You've been so explicit that. . .\n\nUHRY: I think we've got it.\n\nZUCKERMAN: no, not really. We can go into what your feelings are about Israel.\nDo you have anything to say on that subject?\n\nUHRY: When I was growing up, I think I was one of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"many from Dr. Marx's\ncongregation who thought of the word \"Zionist\" like some kind of a criminal.\nThat was a bad word. Nobody wanted, in those days, to be a Zionist in the little\ngroup around the Temple that I knew. However, when Israel became a state. . .\nand before Israel. . . I never had that feeling. 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However, I don't participate a great deal outwardly.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ZUCKERMAN: You had mentioned that your family was close to Leo Frank, and that\nhe had worked for your uncle. What were your feelings at the time? Do you\nremember what the experiences were and how you felt about the situation?\n\nUHRY: At the time, in 1913, I was four years old. I don't think I had any\nfeelings about that. 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I'm positive it's not true, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but somebody told me you were Jewish.\" My\nmother said, \"Of course I'm Jewish.\" This lady said, \"I don't believe it. You're\ntoo nice to be Jewish.\" I grew up in that kind of a thing.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Could you tell us anything about what might have been the most\nimportant influences in your life?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UHRY: That's a hard one. I think there were a lot of them.\n\nZUCKERMAN: We have plenty of tape and plenty of time.\n\nUHRY: I had a couple of teachers in high school who had a great effect on me. I\ndon't know. I'm sure my supportive family did, but I really can't think of any\none thing. 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I'm sure that those four\nyears, knowing the people, students, and the professors I had, did have an\neffect on me.\n\nZUCKERMAN: How do you feel about the future of our Jewish community in Atlanta,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and about the future of Israel? Do you have anything to tell us about that?\n\nUHRY: From what I can see, I like what's going on in the Jewish community in\nAtlanta. Many Jewish communities have now come together which were distinctly\nseparated in my day. 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I sure think it did.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ZUCKERMAN: Do you feel that you have transmitted your values to your children?\nWhat are they? What would they be?\n\nUHRY: As far as values are concerned, I think I never really stopped to answer\nthat question. As I said before, my children grew up in an ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"era when it was easy\nto follow what my parents had taught me, as far as things that were right and\nwrong, moral and immoral. I think they get it by osmosis, as far as I can see.\n\nZUCKERMAN: What, at this point in time, are you involved with or interested in\ndoing? What are your activities today?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2100.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UHRY: I enjoy very much working on a committee at Child Services and Family\nCounseling Center. It's an advocacy committee.\n\nZUCKERMAN: What does that mean?\n\nUHRY: To be an advocate is like being. . . it comes from the word that means\n\"lawyer\" because you're working for someone else's benefit. 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I don't think I make a lot of contributions to these organizations ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"other\nthan helping them raise money, except that we do have a hand. . . I do feel we\nhave a tiny little part in policy making for these groups.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Have you made any policy recently to enhance the [Atlanta] College of\nArt's growth?\n\nUHRY: We've just gotten a new president who takes office, I think, this January\n1. 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We couldn't get a\nshow like King Tut[ankhamum] because we didn't have space, nor the security.\nNobody these days, I don't care how much money they have, can buy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"many old\nmasters. You can bring the old masters in traveling shows to Atlanta. That's\nhappening. I think this organization that used to be said was an elitist\norganization, is far from that today. I think if you go in there on any weekend\nand see the people in throngs in the museum with baby carriages and all the\nrest, you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"get the feeling it's really a civic. . .\n\nZUCKERMAN: We are going back now to a part that we didn't cover before in the\narea of your being a volunteer staff worker.\n\nUHRY: The only time I was ever on a staff of a social agency was when I worked\nfor the Community Council, beginning in 1963. 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I hate the word 'challenging,' but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2400.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in those\ndays, we said that's what this organization was. It was a wonderful experience\nfor me. When I say I was on the staff, I was really more or less like a\ngraduated volunteer. I made very little salary. The director, Duane Beck [sp],\nhad a feeling that volunteers weren't properly respected by the staff. People\nthat did a lot of volunteer work for him, work that would have been considered\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"volunteer in other groups, he insisted on a minimum-type payment so the staff\nrespected them as an equal. That was a marvelous learning experience for me. I\nreally learned what went on in the City of Atlanta. Although I had lived here\nall those many years, I only knew one little segment of this city. I met people\nfrom Perry Homes to the Piedmont Driving Club. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was absolutely a wonderful\nexperience. I hated it when this organization had no money and had to close.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Alene, could you tell us about your children, about your daughter Ann\nand your son Alfred? What they are doing at the present?\n\nUHRY: My daughter Ann went ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"two years to Sarah Lawrence College [Bronxville, New\nYork]. After two years, she married Eddie [Edward] Abrams. She was 19 years old\nat the time. She told me she would always go back to school, but I never quite\nbelieved it. After her third child entered school, Ann went to Georgia State\n[University−Atlanta, Georgia] to complete her BA [Bachelor of Arts degree].\nShe then went on to get her ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Master's [degree]. After that, she taught at Clayton\nJunior College [Morrow, Georgia] for a while, and then went to Emory\n[University--Atlanta, Georgia] where she got her doctorate. She's had a\nwonderful time since then. She taught for about five years at Spelman College\n[Atlanta, Georgia] in the Art Department. I neglected to say her degree was in\nart history. She was offered a post-doctoral fellowship ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at the Smithsonian,\nwhich she accepted. Since then she has opened a little office on Maple Drive.\nShe evaluates pieces of art for the Museum from time to time, or from\nindividuals. She got into this through a lawyer who she didn't know. He was told\nto call her. He had an estate to settle and in the estate were quite a lot of\npaintings. Her three children are ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"grown now and she is pursuing her work.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Thank you. This concludes the first side of the tape. We'll continue\non Side 2 with Ann Uhry [Abrams], and then go on to your son's career, their\nchildren, and what they're doing.\n\nZUCKERMAN: This is Side 2 of a 90-minute ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tape for the Women of Achievement Oral\nHistory Project. I am Ruth Zuckerman interviewing Alene Fox Uhry at her home,\n3780 Paces Ferry Road, Atlanta, Georgia. The date is November 22, 1985. We are\ncontinuing with her daughter, Ann Uhry Abrams.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UHRY: Ann has three children. Two sons: Allen, who graduated from Columbia\nUniversity; and got his MB [Master of Business Administration] at Emory\nUniversity; and Andy who graduated from [University of] Notre Dame, the third\ngeneration Abrams family who went to Notre Dame. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Both boys are in business with\ntheir father. Her daughter, Lori, graduated from Eckerd College. She is back in\nAtlanta now. She is a travel agent. I'm fortunate to have those three right here\nin Atlanta.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Which business would that be, and which travel agent would that be?\n\nUHRY: A.R. Abrams is the business. 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Has she written any other books on art?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2730.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UHRY: The book that's just been published by the Smithsonian is called The\nValiant Hero: Benjamin West and Grand-Style History Paintings. This is the first\nbook she's written. Another book that she wrote with a colleague at the\nSmithsonian has gone to press now. It concerns the Statue of Liberty's birthday.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2760.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She and her Smithsonian colleague will curate several shows connected with the\nbook and the birthday of the Statue of Liberty.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Now let's go on to your son who is a playwright in New York.\n\nUHRY: My son, Alfred, graduated from Brown University. 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His wife is a teacher. \"Jolly,\" as we\ncall her, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2850.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"teaches young children. She first was an art teacher. Now she's using\nthings in art to help slow learners in other ways.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Please tell us now about the children [of Alfred and Jolly].\n\nUHRY: They have four daughters. 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She is taking a\npre-pre-med ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"course now at Columbia University. She also is working as a waitress\non the side. Kate is a sophomore at Beloit College in Wisconsin. Nell is in high\nschool in New York.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Thank you very much. Are there any sides or additions you would like\nto add at this point that you didn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think about previously? I'll shut off the\ntape for a while.\n\nZUCKERMAN: You were telling me off the cuff about your husband's talents. I\nthink it would be interesting to put them down, about your husband's painting\nand his interest in the arts, and your father's involvement with music as an\namateur musician. Let's expound on that a little bit.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UHRY: I don't think my father ever thought of himself, nor was he, as an amateur\nmusician. He loved it. He loved to sing in groups. I used to tell my cousin that\nhe sang better than [Enrico] Caruso. She always would argue with me about that.\nPerhaps she was right. As far as my husband is concerned, he always had a pencil\nin his hand. 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When we were married, however, there was this\nlittle school at the present site of the [High] Museum ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the [Woodruff] Arts\nCenter. There were two teachers there: Ben Shue [sp] and Bob Rogers [sp]. My\nhusband went at night to the sketch classes, every Monday night. He was the only\nman in the group. In those days, \"he-men\" in Atlanta, Georgia didn't fool with\npainting. That never bothered him in the least. He was a good athlete. 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In the corner it says, \"Sketched with Ralph.\" Ralph sketched ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the\nsame place. When he saw Kingman's he tore his up, but his was good. He spent all\nhis spare time, Sundays, evenings and afternoons, painting. He loved it.\nWatercolors were quick. He enjoyed doing them, but when he finished with them,\nhe was finished. He didn't care about saving them. I have fished many out of the\ngarbage can and given them to my friends. He would go over for a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sunday\nafternoon, sit in the yard and sketch a house. Today, many of my friends have\nhis paintings in their homes. He was strictly an amateur. He put a few things in\nshows at the Museum. . . Southern artist shows. He never sold a painting, so he\nmaintained his amateur standing.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Does your daughter paint at all?\n\nUHRY: She did when her father was alive. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Later, she wouldn't paint anymore. She\nsaid she realized she wasn't good enough. I think that's. . . she got into art\nhistory in that way, probably.\n\nZUCKERMAN: I don't think we mentioned the date of your husband's death.\n\nUHRY: My husband died just before his fifty-first birthday in 1955.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Was there anything else you would care to talk about at this point,\nthat you can think of?\n\nUHRY: I think I've said it all.\n\nZUCKERMAN: I think ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you failed to mention the college that your granddaughter\nElizabeth went to is Hobart College?\n\nUHRY: She went to Hobart and William Smith [Colleges] which is a small, very\ngood liberal arts college.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Where is that?\n\nUHRY: Geneva, New York.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Does she intend to continue with an arts. . .\n\nUHRY:. . . she is the one who is now in a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pre-pre-med course at Columbia.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Would you care to tell what her observations are on pre-pre-med?\nWhether or not she intends to pursue this?\n\nUHRY: She has always said she wanted to be a doctor. She told me the last time\nwe discussed it that she still would like to be a doctor. She also wants to\nmarry and have children. Even though some women manage that, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she doesn't know\nwhether she can. This course she's taking at the present time is for two\nreasons, I think. One, to see if she can do well enough to apply to medical\nschool. The other is to give her time to think over her options.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Your grandson who is attending Brown, what does he intend to do?\n\nUHRY: I don't have anybody attending Brown. 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However, when I was growing\nup, my father and mother ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were very interested in seeing the whole United States.\nWe took a lot of trips in those days out West, and up the St. Lawrence River. .\n. in all parts of the country. Since my husband's death, I have been fortunate\nenough to have a lot of interesting trips. I have been to Europe a number of\ntimes. I was in the Orient only once on a wonderful trip. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have spent two weeks\nat a time in London [England] I have done the same in Nice [France]. The other\ntrips have been, more or less, five days here and five days there, but I've\ngotten a good bird's eye view of those places.\n\nZUCKERMAN: When you travel to these various places, what is of primary interest?\nWhat do you prefer to see ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and to visit primarily?\n\nUHRY: I'm more interested in people, I think, than places. I much prefer to be\nin a small town where you can get to know a few people besides the people who\nwait on you in hotels and restaurants. That's why I like to be in a place for a\nlonger time. I'm interested particularly in southern France, which is my\nfavorite spot. I hope to go back this ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coming year to the museums in that area,\nand the beautiful scenery that those artists painted. I love the theater in\nLondon. I love London. I'm sure the language helps a lot, although they do speak\na different language from the one I speak. We can manage. . . I can manage to\nunderstand. I'm interested in the way people live, what they're thinking, and\nwhat they ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"do, as well as the sights.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Thank you again. Here at this point we call it quits.\n\nZUCKERMAN: This is Tape 2, Side 1, of Alene Fox Uhry, a more in-depth\ncontinuation of Tape 1, more detail, more remembrances, taped at her home March\n24, 1986. This is Ruth Zuckerman, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interviewer. I think we'll start, Alene, with\nyour mother. . . about teaching conditions back then, what sort of students she\nhad, for instance what sort of student Mayor [William] Hartsfield was, and your\ngrandfather being German. We'll take it from there.\n\nUHRY: As I said in the other tape, my mother taught school in Atlanta for 10\nyears after she graduated from college. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She taught in an elementary school\ncalled the Crew Street School. It was in the vicinity of the Stadium. It was a\npublic school where children of all. . . it was in a good neighborhood. She more\nor less had children whose parents were interested in their education.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Was that a mixed neighborhood?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3600.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UHRY: I don't think it was that mixed. I think it might have been slightly, but\nit was in the vicinity of a good neighborhood. She taught many people who later\nbecame prominent citizens. She was always delighted about that. Many of them\nkept up with her, as did Mayor Hartsfield, whom she called \"Willie.\" She taught\nhim in either the fifth or the sixth grade. [She] didn't remember ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3630.0,3660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a lot about\nwhat kind of student he was, so assumed that he must have been an average\nstudent. She did remember that she liked him very much. She had a lot of\npleasure. I believe he was in one of the classes that she taught for two years.\nShe moved up one year with one group of children. Those were the ones that she\nmostly remembered. One of the students in her class later was Dr. [Charles]\nGlenville Giddings, whose father ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was our family doctor. After he died, my mother\nfelt very strange about going to his son, whom she had taught at school. She\nsaid, \"How can I go to Glenville, when I taught him when [he] was a little boy?\"\nShe finally did. He treated her just like a relative. She had many nice contacts\nfrom her school days. As I said on the other tape, she never got over being a\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"teacher. Is there anything more? One thing I do want to say. Remember that the\nAtlanta schools in those days, really the public schools, had not been here that\nlong. I read in the paper just the other day that they opened the public schools\nafter the \"War Between the States.\" She started teaching at the turn of the\n[twentieth] century. We'd only had schools, I guess, about 25 years ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"here, public\nschool. She also used to tell me a lot of stories about the way the conditions\nwere in the school. It was supposed to be a very good school. She said there was\na bucket of water in the back of the room with a dipper. When the children were\nthirsty, they went [to] the back of the room and drank water. They all drank\nfrom the same dipper. They didn't seem to have any more problems with disease,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3750.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so she said, as we did when we were doing everything to clean. . . when I was\ngrowing up, it was a fad to boil everything, sterilize it, and all of that. That\ntells a little bit about what kind of a place Atlanta was.\n\nZUCKERMAN: The building itself, the school itself?\n\nUHRY: I really don't know much about the building itself. I never saw it. I\nthink it was still quite. . . that part of town quickly went down after the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3780.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"First World War.\n\nZUCKERMAN: It wasn't the little red schoolhouse or that sort of. . .\n\nUHRY:. . . no, they had regular classrooms. As I say, the children who went\nthere later went to college, many of them, and became prominent citizens in the community.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Were they graded classrooms?\n\nUHRY: Yes. I had a teacher in high school named Katherine Parker. My mother had\ntaught her. She had also taught the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mothers and aunts of a lot of people that I\nknew. They were always coming up to her on the street. I guess there weren't\nthat many schools, or that many people in town. That was the first 10 years of\nher life after she graduated from college.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Tell us about your grandfather.\n\nUHRY: I never knew, as I said before, my maternal grandparents. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3840.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My paternal\ngrandmother died when I was six years old. I do remember my paternal\ngrandfather, Herman Fox. I loved him. He died when I was 11 years old. He used\nto read to me and play games with me. The one thing that stands out in my mind\nis that he spoke with a decided German accent. During those years, we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"didn't\nlike Germany. In school, everybody used to stamp on the Kaiser [German: Emperor]\nand call Germans \"Krauts.\" All that sort of thing. I remember how I hated\nmyself. I used to come home from school with some friends. I felt so bad,\nbecause I really didn't want them to hear my grandfather talk. I realized then\nthat something was bad about being ashamed of my grandfather, who I loved. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That\nis a little bit about things I've read about first generation Americans and how\nthey felt towards their families.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Why did your grandparents leave Germany?\n\nUHRY: My grandparents on all sides came from Germany. My mother's mother was\nborn in Germany. She came to this country when she was two years old. They left\nfor ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3930.0,3960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"several reasons. They said they left because of [Otto von] Bismarck and the\nfeeling toward Jews. But they mostly said to avoid the military. I never worked\nthat out exactly right. I do know that from what they say that boys were\nconscripted. They never could be officers in the army.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Because they were Jewish?\n\nUHRY: Because they were Jewish, but they were. . .\n\nZUCKERMAN: What year was that?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3960.0,3990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UHRY: My maternal ancestors came in the 1840s. . . 1845. . . 1850, around in\nthere, to Philadelphia [Pennsylvania], and moved South. They lived in Atlanta at\nfirst. They had relatives who had come here. Then they went to Newnan [Georgia].\nMy mother always said they moved because the schools were better. They had\nschools in Newnan. My maternal grandmother went to a school ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=3990.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"called LaGrange\nFemale College. I have a certificate from that institution.\n\nZUCKERMAN: That was your maternal grandmother?\n\nUHRY: Yes. Before the Civil War, they returned to Philadelphia. Why, I do not\nknow. My mother's oldest brothers and sisters, three or four of them, were born\nin Philadelphia, and they came to Atlanta. I don't know what year. My mother was\nborn in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=4020.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1877. She was the youngest of the family. She was born here.\n\nZUCKERMAN: What about your paternal grandparents?\n\nUHRY: I think I told you on the other tape that my father's mother was born in\nLouisville, Kentucky. We went into the Alsace part. 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Can you elaborate a little\nbit, and why you moved from there?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=4080.0,4110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UHRY: Atlanta is a strange city. People seem to move in groups. I guess they do\neverywhere. Where I lived until I was nine years old was definitely a Jewish\narea in town. We had Christian neighbors, I don't mean that. But almost all of\nour friends lived right around within six square blocks of where I lived. 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Did you encounter ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=4230.0,4260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"any racial bigotry?\n\nUHRY: Not really in school. I think I might have told you before, when I was in\ngrammar school I remember hearing somebody sing a song about \"little Mary\nPhagan.\" I didn't really understand the whole thing at that time, but I knew it\nwas something that hurt my feelings. I didn't know exactly why. 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Leo Frank. . . what did I say?\n\nUHRY: William.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=4320.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ZUCKERMAN: At any rate, if you could recite the song?\n\nUHRY: I really can't. I just know it was something [like]. . . \"Little Mary\nPhagan went to work one day. . . \" I don't really remember it. I guess I didn't\nwant to.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Tell us about your first job.\n\nUHRY: I had many volunteer jobs while I was still in college, when I came home\nin the summer. 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They were\ndoing all kinds of new things, including having a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=4380.0,4410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"personnel squad. I applied for\nthat job and got it. I made $10 a week. I remember my father said to me, \"It's a\ngood thing you went to college. Just think what you'd make if you hadn't gone to\ncollege.\" My hours were 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. It really was equivalent to\nother salaries that people made who worked all day. 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Now give her the doll\" or \"Give her this.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=4590.0,4620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"An incident that later\namused us, but certainly didn't then, [was] that my mother always made her\nbirthday cake. It was always an angel food cake. One year, we were taking the\ncake to her. My mother was driving the car. I was holding the cake. When I got\nout of the car, I dropped the cake on the street.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Was that accidental?\n\nUHRY: It has a Freudian tinge to it, don't you think?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=4620.0,4650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ZUCKERMAN: Subconsciously. Helen, is she an artist?\n\nUHRY: No. You're thinking of her sister-in-law, Harriet.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Harriet and Helen. . .\n\nUHRY: Helen has been married twice. Her name before she married was Bauer. . . B-A-U-E-R.\n\nZUCKERMAN: These relatives are all living in Atlanta?\n\nUHRY: Yes.\n\nZUCKERMAN: That must be nice. 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One hot summer day, she told me that they\nwere going to have a tea for an Atlanta woman who had written a novel about the\nCivil War, and would my mother and I come to this tea on the next afternoon?\nThat was about the last thing I thought would be interesting. . . an Atlanta\nwoman's book about the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=4830.0,4860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Civil War. Because of my friendship with the librarian,\nwe went to the tea. There was Margaret Mitchell, a dowdy-looking woman. The book\ncost $3.00. I remember that. That was high, because most books were $2.00 and\n$2.50. I felt that I had to buy a book. I'm sorry to tell you that I bought the\nbook, she autographed it, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=4860.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I lent it to somebody. I do not have it. That's\nthe bad part of the story. I took the book home. This was about two or three\nweeks before publication. It was this big thick book, I thought about the Civil\nWar. I really didn't want to read it. I put it on my night table. I hadn't heard\na word about it, except at this tea. 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When the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=4920.0,4950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"opening was coming, of course we were all very\nexcited about it. It was the biggest event I could ever remember in Atlanta. I\nwas young and stage-struck. I was born in 1909. I was 30. 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People were talking for weeks about what they were going to wear\nto the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=4980.0,5010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ball. Tickets, of course, were at a premium. I don't remember how we got\ntickets. The people were standing outside watching everybody go in. It was a big\nevent. The movie started the next night. I did not go that night. I think we\nwent a couple of nights later to see the movie. It was exciting and wonderful,\nwe thought. 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I might have it here. . . my mother saved for\nme ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5040.0,5070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a lot of the newspapers of the time. I remember the big headlines that said,\n\"Clark Gable Drives Down Peachtree.\" There were parades.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Let's get on to your son's wife's mother, who was one-quarter Jewish,\nand her grandfather who was a prominent doctor. 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I feel that my son and his wife really\ncame from the same background.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5130.0,5160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ZUCKERMAN: Her grandfather, you say that he was a prominent doctor?\n\nUHRY: Not my grandfather. Her grandfather.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Who was he?\n\nUHRY: He was a Dr. Mosenthal in New York City. I believe he was an urologist.\nThere is today, I'm told, a certain test that is named after him. I never knew\nhim. I knew Jolly's grandmother, but I never ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5160.0,5190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"knew him. He had died. I'm sorry I\ndidn't know him.\n\nZUCKERMAN: He was in New York, is that right?\n\nUHRY: Yes.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Tell us about your son's career as a playwright.\n\nUHRY: I don't know why any person. . . I do know why he chose it. He always\nloved it, but it's an up and down thing. He loves it today. He's had enough\nsuccesses to make it all worthwhile. 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She's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5220.0,5250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"known to everybody as \"Jolly\". . .\nJ-O-L-L-Y. She is a teacher. It's interesting. In our family we've had a lot of\nteachers. My mother was a teacher. My daughter is a teacher now at Georgia State\n[University]. Jolly is a teacher now. For a time, Alfred taught Shakespeare at a\ngirl's private school, I think two days a week. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5280.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I couldn't go into all the\ndetails if I wanted to, because I don't understand it all. She is very excited\nabout it and interested in it and has had some successes.\n\nZUCKERMAN: That would be interesting to pursue if you knew how it was utilized.\nLet's get on to... you're missing the religious aspects of the seders ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5310.0,5340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and Jewish\nobservances, and what you've done about it.\n\nUHRY: My mother was an observant Jew, as far as going to services were\nconcerned. She went every Saturday, as I think I said in the last tape. My\nfather grew up in the little town of Streator, Illinois, where there was no\nopportunity for Jewish education. He said his parents often ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"went to Chicago for\nthe [high] holy days but he didn't. When he came to Atlanta, he had a lot of\ncivic interests. The year he died he was a vice-president of the Temple. I feel\nthat his interest in the Temple was more of a civic kind of a thing. 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I don't remember imbibing any feelings for. . . it's just not in\nmy memory ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5400.0,5430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if they ever had a seder supper. They must have, but I don't know\nabout it. We didn't. Occasionally, we'd be invited out for a seder. My mother,\nwhen I was little, used to tell me about all the symbols. In fact, she used to\nput them all on a little table: the lamb bone, the parsley, and the saltwater. I\nnever had the community kind of seder that we have now. The reason we have it\nis, I guess, because of my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5430.0,5460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"grandchildren. My daughter and son-in-law, with two\nother couples, started having seders together. . . at least 15 years ago when\nthe children. . . maybe longer than that. These three families, they used to be\nabout. . . I used to go, and my mother went to some. We used to have all those generations.\n\nZUCKERMAN: That was here in Atlanta?\n\nUHRY: Here in Atlanta. We still do this. We take turns. One has it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5460.0,5490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one year and\none has it the next. We all bring part of the supper. We're fortunate to have\nthe Alfred Messers [sp] in the group. He conducts the service as his father did\nat home. We have a wonderful time with it. The children, my grandchildren and\ntheir contemporaries, enjoy it so much that they all try to come home for the\noccasion. It makes me see what I missed.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5490.0,5520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ZUCKERMAN: Tell us about Rabbi Marx.\n\nUHRY: There isn't much to tell. I have a divided opinion, because he was a close\nfriend. He used to take me to Sunday school every Sunday, because we were\nneighbors. In two different locations we lived next door to each other. If you\nnotice, he was called \"Dr. Marx,\" not \"Rabbi Marx.\" I never heard anybody call\nhim. . . 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He was called \"Dr.\nSolomon.\" This came about, I always think, as a result of the Frank case ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5550.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years\nwhen Jews went out of their way to be like everybody else. That's my\nexplanation. It may be entirely wrong. Reform Judaism in my day was so Reform\nthat it was hardly recognizable. Even when I go to the Temple today, it is so\ncompletely different from what it used to be. When I was growing up, Dr. Marx\nnever ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5580.0,5610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would have a bar mitzvah in the Temple. When my daughter was in Sunday\nschool, a close friend's parents wanted this boy to have a bar mitzvah. Dr. Marx\nwouldn't do it. They joined the other temple that year. The child had his bar\nmitzvah at another temple.\n\nZUCKERMAN: What reason was that?\n\nUHRY: I don't know. 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It wasn't very appealing to me.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Is he still living?\n\nUHRY: No.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5670.0,5700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ZUCKERMAN: Let's go on to the opera scene here in Atlanta.\n\nUHRY: The Metropolitan [Opera] started coming to Atlanta when I was, I think, an\ninfant. They stopped it during the First World War and the Second World War. My\nfather, who loved music so much, was one. . . of the original guarantors. He and\nmy mother had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5700.0,5730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"season tickets and used to go every night. My mother started\ntaking me to matinees. I remember hearing [Enrico] Caruso. . . sing Martha, in a\nmatinee, when I was nine years old. I think I remember more hearing about it\nthan actually the performance. I was subjected to the opera. 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It really is a very sore spot ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5790.0,5820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with me when public\ninstitutions, even college clubs, symphony boards, or anything like that. . .\nour symphony board doesn't meet there anymore. . . meet at a club to which all\nthe members of the board are not always welcome. I'd feel the same if the\nStandard Club would have it. I think the years of exclusive clubs. . . seems to\nme it will disappear before ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5820.0,5850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too long.\n\nZUCKERMAN: You don't think the Standard Club is exclusive?\n\nUHRY: No. I think it's wrong to have city-wide. . . I think it would be wrong to\nhave a United Way meeting at the Standard Club. I don't belong to the Standard\nClub now. I don't know its position on taking everybody. I think they tell me it\nis open now, but nobody joins except Jews. 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I\nthink that the Capital City Club and the Piedmont Driving Club are places where\nbig business deals are made. . . where all kinds of things that are not social\ntake place.\n\nZUCKERMAN: We had mentioned in our last talk about some very exclusive parties\nto [which] Jews were not permitted, and when a change came about when Black\nsingers. . .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5880.0,5910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"UHRY: I was talking about the opera week. It was a big, big social. . . I think\nquite a few people went to these social affairs, and in between just went to the\nopera until the next party. The first night of the opera, I think they used to\nhave a party at the Capital City Club. Not being there, I wouldn't know for sure\nwhat went on. I read in the paper in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5910.0,5940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"those days that all the singers who were in\nthe opera were there. It was a very gala, festive occasion. Rudolf Bing became\nmanager of the Metropolitan Opera. The first season he came to Atlanta, Aida was\nthe opening opera with Leontyne Price. Mr. Bing let it be known that if all the\ncast was not invited to the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5940.0,5970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"party after the opera, nobody would come. It just so\nhappened that when opera week rolled around that year, the Capital City Club was\nclosed for renovation.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Which year was that?\n\nUHRY: I'm not sure. It's been quite a while.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Not that long ago?\n\nUHRY: No.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Did they, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=5970.0,6000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"after all, permit her to sing?\n\nUHRY: They were permitting her to sing.\n\nZUCKERMAN: At the Capital City Club?\n\nUHRY: No. The Capital City Club was closed. They didn't have any parties.\n\nZUCKERMAN: At what point in time were colored entertainers permitted?\n\nUHRY: I really don't know that. Not being a member of those clubs, I really\ndon't know. You don't hear as much. . . if you notice, when opera week comes\nalong, you don't read quite as much about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6000.0,6030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all the festivities.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Tell us about the [Atlanta] Symphony board and meeting at the\n[Piedmont] Driving Club.\n\nUHRY: The [Atlanta] Symphony board used to meet at the Driving Club. As I say,\nin the beginning I never realized how bad that was. I began to feel very\nuncomfortable at those meetings and thought it was wrong to have them there. I\njust started not attending. 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A very nice man, Charles Towers, was president ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6060.0,6090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the\nSymphony board. He was head of Shell Oil in this area.\n\nOne day I just decided that I was going to do something about that. I called his\nsecretary, made an appointment, and said I wanted to come to see him about a\nSymphony matter. I went. I told him my story. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6120.0,6150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's wrong. If I\nwere in your place, I would feel just as you do.\" I said, \"Do you think you\nmight be able to later change the meetings to the members' room over at the Arts\nAlliance?\" He said, \"No, not later. We're going to change the next meeting.\" He\nsent out notices right that minute that the meeting would be changed. The\nmeeting was set for two weeks ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6150.0,6180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and we would meet at the members' room. At that\nmeeting, there were very few people in attendance. At the Driving Club meetings,\none of the men who was a member of the club would always act as host, and serve\ndrinks after the meeting was over. That didn't happen at the members' room. For\nyears, Charles Towers teased me. He said I had reduced the attendance at\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6180.0,6210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Symphony boards by half. But later. . . it did take a while, but later they got\nused to coming to the members' room. The people on the board now don't know the\ndifference. They don't even know about the other way.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6210.0,6240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[general conversation about the interview]\n\nZUCKERMAN: Mrs. Uhry claims she's said quite enough. She really has nothing more\nthat she cares to add to this tape. At this point we will conclude the\ninterview. This is Ruth Zuckerman, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6240.0,6270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interviewer. We do have a signed form that\nMrs. Uhry is signing for permission to use the tape.\n\nZUCKERMAN: This is Ruth Zuckerman taping an interview sequel to the first\ninterview with Alene Uhry, taken on March 24, 1986, for the Esther and Herbert\nTaylor Oral History Project. Today is September ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6270.0,6300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"8, 1989, at Mrs. Uhry's home.\nAlene, we would like to start with Driving Miss Daisy, the very highly\nsuccessful play which is presently being made into a movie. We would like to\nbegin with the 1958 Temple bombing . . . Rabbi [Jacob] Rothschild and his congregation.\n\nUHRY: Rabbi Rothschild was a very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6300.0,6330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"active rabbi in the community. The\ncongregation, at that time I think up to a point, was quite proud of what he\nstood for. But some of the older members, the more conservative people, were\nafraid. They didn't want him to be so outspoken. He was a co-chairman of the\ndinner that was given later for Martin Luther King [Jr.] and. . . 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It\nwas almost unbelievable the way the ministers. . . he had a good relationship\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6360.0,6390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with all the priests, the ministers, and the social workers in the community. He\nalways firmly stood for what I consider the right things. Conservatives may not\nalways go that far. He was a strong believer in civil rights long before it\nbecame popular. . . in the days when it was a little bit conscience-shaking to\nsome of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6390.0,6420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"members of the congregation. He was known in the community, really,\nas a fair, open-minded person who was very, very anxious to bring the various\npreachers, priests, and rabbis together.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Would you attribute the bombing to that reason?\n\nUHRY: No. I would attribute the bombing to the same thing that causes ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6420.0,6450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"burning of\ncrosses. I don't think. . . this is just my opinion, but I don't the leaders of\nthose movements had much to think with. I think they reacted to their prejudices.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Did they ever capture the person who was responsible for the bombing?\n\nUHRY: They did. I don't really know what happened to him.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Is it true? I heard someone tell me that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6450.0,6480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"actually the bombing was to\nhave been to the AA [Ahavath Achim] synagogue which was being built, but that he\nhad made a mistake and went to the wrong place.\n\nUHRY: I don't think that's true. There's a line in Driving Miss Daisy when she\nsays, \"It's a mistake. We're Reform. They meant to bomb the Orthodox\ncongregation.\" Someone asked me if my mother really said that. 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I think maybe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6540.0,6570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Joseph Haas, who was\nactive. Billy [William B.] Schwartz, I believe, was a vice-president or\npresident of the Temple at that time.\n\nZUCKERMAN: What were the attitudes of the congregants towards integration?\n\nUHRY: It was as varied as you can see in almost any group. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6570.0,6600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think primarily the\nJews, for the most part all branches of Judaism, were leaders in the field of\nintegration. That's one reason I find it so disturbing when you hear about the\nBlack-Jewish problems, in later times, and now with the Jewish slumlords and all\nof that kind of thing. In those days, I really think that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6600.0,6630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rabbi Rothschild was\ncertainly leading the younger members. By younger, I would say fiftyish down. I\ndo think some of the old ones, it was hard to break. They might have been for\nintegration, but they didn't want their rabbi to be in the forefront. There was\nalways a feeling among Jews in Atlanta that I knew, \"Be quiet. Don't call\nattention to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6630.0,6660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"yourself, [you'll] get in trouble.\" That's what they objected to\nlater when Rabbi Rothschild was one of the co-hosts of the Martin Luther King dinner.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Was that the attitude of the majority of the congregants, would you think?\n\nUHRY: No, I really don't.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Had there been earlier incidents of antisemitism in the recent past?\n\nUHRY: You mean outward ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6660.0,6690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"breaks like that?\n\nZUCKERMAN: Outward and inward.\n\nUHRY: There had always been restricted neighborhoods. . . a gentleman's\nagreement kind of thing. It was never written down. I think in one of the last\ntapes that we made, I talked about how there was a swimming pool near me that\nwas closed to Jewish children. I don't remember any. . . always you would read\nin the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6690.0,6720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"paper [about] cross burnings at Stone Mountain, where now I understand\nthere's a new Reform congregation. Marietta, which they say \"May-retta,\" is\nwhere little Mary Phagan [lived] who was murdered at the pencil factory, and\n[Leo] Frank was accused, you remember. Marietta was a hot bed of antisemitism.\nThe [Ku Klux] Klan was not as strong in those days, openly, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6720.0,6750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but they were still\ndoing all their devilment.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Were they attacking synagogues and houses of worship, as well?\n\nUHRY: I don't remember them attacking synagogues in Atlanta. You remember later\nthe incidents in Montgomery, and in Alabama. Those were in the [Martin Luther]\nKing days though, which was in early. . . in the 1960s, and in 1958.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6750.0,6780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rabbi Rothschild or members of the congregation established a\nformal or an informal program with the Black congregations, etc.?\n\nUHRY: I don't remember that. I think the American Jewish Committee. . . I don't\nknow at what time. . . they have been very active in promoting Black-Jewish\nrelationships. Cecil Alexander [Jr.] was a leader in that field. That is more\nrecent than ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6780.0,6810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1958.\n\nZUCKERMAN: How recent would that be?\n\nUHRY: I would say the 1970s. Have you seen the book by Janice Rothschild\n[Blumberg], the rabbi's wife?\n\nZUCKERMAN: No.\n\nUHRY: I'll show it to you when we finish. It has a good account of the bombing\nof the Temple, and all about what went on.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Good. Have the attitudes within the congregation ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6810.0,6840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"changed over time?\n\nUHRY: I think definitely, as everything changed. Issues that were once\ncontroversial are not controversial any more. Most of the religious institutions\nare searching for acceptable \"Blacks.\" The Temple has at least one member, I\nknow, who is Black. There was, in those days, a wonderful cartoon in the New\nYorker where two Black women are ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6840.0,6870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"standing at the entrance of a church. When they\nsee the deacon coming, they quickly bring out their buckets and mops, kneel down\nand say, \"We're only cleanin' the floor.\" That's the only way they could get\ninto the church. Back to the bombing. In this book I'm telling you about, there\nare vivid descriptions of [how] the rabbi and his wife were threatened. They had\nSecret Service ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6870.0,6900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people, or whatever you would call the security people, I guess,\naround their house night and day, as did the various leaders in the\ncongregation. It was a very tense time. While the ministers and people of good\nwill were pouring out their sympathy, the other element was doing the opposite.\nAtlanta has always been a city of contrast. Lester Maddox and Martin Luther\nKing. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6900.0,6930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The [Ku Klux] Klan and the way the integration went here so well when\nschools were integrated. Atlanta was one of the patterns. It was copied because\nit went so smoothly. It's always had the two elements here.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6930.0,6960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[discussion about Janice Blumberg's book and how to obtain it]\n\nUHRY: Then she wrote her sequel. There are two books by her. I think I gave my\nson the second one. He really did some research on the bombing of the Temple\ndays. Of course, he happened to be in Atlanta. He'd just graduated from college,\nand he happened to be here the day it was bombed.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6960.0,6990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ZUCKERMAN: Have there been any confrontations over the civil rights issue?\n\nUHRY: You mean connected with the Temple?\n\nZUCKERMAN: With the Temple and after that.\n\nUHRY: I don't really remember any. Of course, in those days people were just\nbeginning to integrate civic associations. . . maybe a few years earlier. . .\nmaybe in the early ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6990.0,7020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1950s. On several boards on which I served, there was great\nconcern about how to plan. . . [how to] have Black members, because no place in\ntown would serve a lunch. For a while, at Family Welfare [Society] as it was\ncalled then, we met at the YMCA [Young Men's Christian Association] because they\nwould serve. . . that was the first Black members we had on the board. We had\nour ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7020.0,7050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"lunches at the YMCA. It was the only place you could serve a mixed group.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Which organizations were you affiliated with?\n\nUHRY: With that particularly, and the Community Council which was a United Way\nagency. It's not in existence any more. They did research on the needs of the\ncommunity. With the arts groups, there was no such thing as Black members for a\nlong, long time. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7050.0,7080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now they have very many from all the colleges, the wealthy\nBlacks, and people like that. It sort of burst forth, but it certainly took a\nlittle [time]. It was just an unheard of thing. The Piedmont Driving Club\nwouldn't allow. . . they'd allow Jews to come in and eat lunch and go to\nparties. It was never a question of that, but you couldn't have ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7080.0,7110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"any kind of a\nlunch or dinner and invite a Black person. I think the first one invited was\nMaynard Jackson when he was mayor [of Atlanta]. . . the first Black mayor.\n\nZUCKERMAN: That was just recently.\n\nUHRY: Yes. This is the Driving Club. They are just now waking up to. . . I think\nthey are going to be forced to take Jews now. Businesses have been writing off\nas business expenses the dues of their ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7110.0,7140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people. They want them to meet. They\ncan't argue anymore that it's simply a social club if it's a business expense.\nIt always is settled by money.\n\nZUCKERMAN: I don't understand why Jews would want to belong, knowing. . .\n\nUHRY:. . . I can understand it. . . the way that Charlayne Hunter sacrificed to\nbe. . . the boy. . . [Hamilton Holmes]. . . to integrate the University of\nGeorgia. Somebody has to be first. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7140.0,7170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is a put-down, in my opinion, on Jews as a\nclass. I can see you wouldn't want certain Baptists, or certain Catholics, but\nto say, \"We don't take Jews,\" when they. . . the children of members think\nsomething is wrong with Jews. Their friends can't belong to clubs that they\nbelong to. I certainly wouldn't want to be a member. But somebody has to do it,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7170.0,7200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in my opinion, because it's more than a social club. It's where dignitaries\ncome. . . you meet all sorts of people. The businesses have a good reason to\nplay on the golf course of their country club. You become friends. It's a\nbusiness advantage.\n\nZUCKERMAN: I understand there are one or two Jews who are members.\n\nUHRY: At last, because of the new tax law.\n\nZUCKERMAN: How had the building ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7200.0,7230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fund raising drive been progressing?\n\nUHRY: What funding drive?\n\nZUCKERMAN: Was there a funding drive for the enlargement of the Temple?\n\nUHRY: That came later.\n\nZUCKERMAN: How much later was that?\n\nUHRY: It's recent, I think. Certainly not before the mid 1970s. I don't remember\nthat having a thing to do with it. 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He won it for the article he wrote about the bombing\nof the Temple.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7470.0,7500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ZUCKERMAN: What of Mayor [William B.] Hartsfield?\n\nUHRY: They were all aghast. They compared it to Hitler and all of that in this\nmodern time. 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As a matter of fact, he might have been interviewed.\n\nUHRY: Could have been.\n\nZUCKERMAN: What ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7530.0,7560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was the impact of the bombing on particular segments of the\nJewish community?\n\nUHRY: Sympathy, same as the Christian. Tragedies bring people together that good\ntimes never do.\n\nZUCKERMAN: That's true.\n\nUHRY: I think that this really had a healing process.\n\nZUCKERMAN: How did the bombing impact Jewish reactions ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7560.0,7590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to later phases of the\nCivil Rights Movement?\n\nUHRY: I don't believe. . . that element was just lost to any kind of conversion.\nI just don't think it had any real effect. It might have, but among the people I\nknew, by that time they were all committed anyway to integration and the Civil\nRights Movement. 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I think by the time that the Temple was\nbombed in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7620.0,7650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1958 that we were well on the way.\n\nZUCKERMAN: What was the reaction to Rabbi Rothschild's sponsorship of the Nobel\n[Peace] Prize winner?\n\nUHRY: I think I mentioned that earlier in this interview, that the older members\nof the congregation. . .\n\nZUCKERMAN:. . . yes. I thought possibly there's something else you might want to add.\n\nUHRY: He took a very courageous stand. It reflected glory on the Temple and on\nhim. 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They were almost like lynchings\nused to be in the old days.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7710.0,7740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ZUCKERMAN: Is there anything else you would like to add at this point in time?\n\nUHRY: I think you've. . . I don't think of anything else. I probably will when\nyou leave. I don't now, but I would like to. . .\n\nZUCKERMAN:. . . if you do would you let me know?\n\n[general discussion, interview resumes]\n\nZUCKERMAN: Getting back to the present, has your son's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7740.0,7770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"success with Driving Miss\nDaisy, which is rather a universal statement, and that's why it's so popular I\nsuppose all over the world. . . how has that impacted your life? 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I'm walking down the street with a neighbor. . .\n\nUHRY: The day the Temple filming went on happened to be Jessica Tandy's\neightieth birthday.\n\nZUCKERMAN: She's remarkable.\n\nUHRY: They had a birthday party ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=7950.0,7980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for her at lunchtime. It was. . .\n\nZUCKERMAN:. . . she has so much stamina.\n\nUHRY: I have to show you two pictures of her that I have during the taking of\nit. She came out to see me. These are the kind of wonderful things that\nhappened. The director, who's Australian, do you remember him?\n\nZUCKERMAN: Yes.\n\nUHRY: A very nice. . . he came down a couple of months before they began to\nshoot. 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You saw the big catering van that\nwent around.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=8160.0,8190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ZUCKERMAN: It was quite an experience.\n\nUHRY: Yes it is. It certainly is.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Is there going to be a sequel to Driving Miss Daisy?\n\nUHRY: I don't think there will be a sequel, but Alfred wants to do another play.\nHe's doing several movie scripts right now. I don't know. 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Or if he should come to\nAtlanta, we can do it if he has a few hours to spare.\n\nUHRY: Yes, he's coming in the morning of this ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=8220.0,8250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"celebration, and leaving the next morning.\n\nZUCKERMAN: We'll work it out. I thank you again so much.\n\nUHRY: It was nice to have an opportunity to see you.\n\nZUCKERMAN: We'll make a copy of the tape for you.\n\nUHRY: Thank you.\n\nZUCKERMAN: Additional questions about the lifestyle of the 1940s, 1950s, and\n1960s, their social life, youth and adults, education, politics, community\ninvolvement, business, etc., ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=8250.0,8280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/transcript/22432/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have been covered by the previous tape with Mrs.\n[Alene] Uhry. The books mentioned by Janice Rothschild [Blumberg] are As But A\nDay: The First Hundred Years [1967], and As But A Day: To a Hundred and Twenty\n[1987]. 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The film was adapted from Margaret Mitchell’s Pulitzer-winning 1936 novel of the same name set against the backdrop of the Civil War and Reconstruction era in the American South.  It tells the story of Scarlett O’Hara, the strong-willed daughter of a Georgia plantation owner. The leading roles are portrayed by Vivien Leigh (Scarlett), Clark Gable (Rhett Butler), Leslie Howard (Ashley Wilkes), and Olivia de Havilland (Melanie Hamilton). \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=4800.0,4830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/annotation_set/432/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe premier of the epic film, Gone with the Wind, featured several days of excitement, glamour, and events in Atlanta from December 13 to December 16, 1939. 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The temple’s Rabbi Jacob Rothschild was an outspoken advocate of civil rights and integration and friend of Martin Luther King Jr. Five men associated with the National States’ Rights Party, a white separatist group, were tried and acquitted in the bombing.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326#t=6300.0,6330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31684/file/100326/annotation_set/432/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRabbi Jacob Rothschild was rabbi of the city’s oldest Reform congregation, the Temple, in Atlanta, Georgia from 1946 until his death in 1973 from a heart attack. 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King helped to organize the 1963 March on Washington, where he delivered his famous \"I Have a Dream\" speech.  In 1964, King received the Nobel Peace Prize for combating racial inequality through nonviolence.  King was assassinated in 1968 in Memphis, Tennessee. His death was followed by riots in many United States cities.  He was posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Congressional Gold Medal. 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