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He attended Smillie and Morningside elementary schools and Grady High School. He went to college at Emory University where he obtained a Bachelor of Business Administration. After college, he worked at the Montag Bros. School Supply and Paper Company as a salesman before turning to a work of faith. He was ordained by Hebrew Union College and became the rabbi at The Temple-Hebrew Benevolent Congregation of Atlanta where he was named senior rabbi in 1974. He is married to Barbara Herman and has two children, Leah and Lanie. \u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eSugarman starts the interview by discussing his family history before coming to Atlanta. He first discusses his father’s side of the family before discussing his mother’s side of the family. Sugarman provides insight in his relationship with each of his family members. He discusses the  influence his family had on his path to becoming a rabbi. Sugarman reflects on his childhood at The Temple with Rabbi Marks and the influence Marks had on him. He explores how Marks influenced his definition of the role of a rabbi. Sugarman details his Jewish and academic education throughout his lifetime. He starts off with Smiilie Elementary, then Morningside Elementary, then Grady High School. He reflects on his involvement in organizations like the Boy Scouts and the influence of adult figures throughout his schooling. Sugarman discusses how his life experiences shaped his personality and his decision to become a rabbi. He concludes by discussing his involvements in the Jewish community. \u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/29012"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Atlanta, Georgia (geographic term)","Smillie Elementary School (corporate name)","Morningside Elementary School (corporate name)","Grady High School (corporate name)","The Temple (corporate name)","Thompson Boland-Lee (corporate name)","Zionism (topical term)","Rabbi Alvin Sugarman (personal name)","Rabbi David Marx (personal name)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAlvin Sugarman interviewed by Mark Bauman on December 10, 2014 in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eAlvin Sugarman was born in Atlanta, Georgia on June 30, 1938. He attended Smillie and Morningside elementary schools and Grady High School. He went to college at Emory University where he obtained a Bachelor of Business Administration. After college, he worked at the Montag Bros. School Supply and Paper Company as a salesman before turning to a work of faith. He was ordained by Hebrew Union College and became the rabbi at The Temple-Hebrew Benevolent Congregation of Atlanta where he was named senior rabbi in 1974. He is married to Barbara Herman and has two children, Leah and Lanie.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eSugarman starts the interview by discussing his family history before coming to Atlanta. He first discusses his father\u0026rsquo;s side of the family before discussing his mother\u0026rsquo;s side of the family. Sugarman provides insight in his relationship with each of his family members. He discusses the \u0026nbsp;influence his family had on his path to becoming a rabbi. Sugarman reflects on his childhood at The Temple with Rabbi Marks and the influence Marks had on him. He explores how Marks influenced his definition of the role of a rabbi. Sugarman details his Jewish and academic education throughout his lifetime. He starts off with Smiilie Elementary, then Morningside Elementary, then Grady High School. He reflects on his involvement in organizations like the Boy Scouts and the influence of adult figures throughout his schooling. Sugarman discusses how his life experiences shaped his personality and his decision to become a rabbi. He concludes by discussing his involvements in the Jewish community.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/172/478/small/Sugarman_Alvin.mp4_1670627826.jpg?1670627829","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Sugarman_Alvin.mp4"]},"duration":5953.24,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/172/478/small/Sugarman_Alvin.mp4_1670627826.jpg?1670627829","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-thebreman.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/172/478/original/Sugarman_Alvin.mp4?1670627822","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":5953.24,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Sugarman, Alvin [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BAUMANN: This is an interview being conducted by Dr. Mark Baumann of Rabbi\nAlvin, chairman emeritus, rabbi of the Hebrew Benevolent Congregation, better\nknown as The Temple. Today's date is December 10, 2014. This will be the first\ninterview. I'm not sure if we will have more. It is being done under the\nauspices of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Esther and Herbert Taylor oral interview project established by\nthe Atlantic Jewish Federation and the Breman Museum. In terms of my research\ngoing into this interview, I have been studying Atlanta Jewish history since the\nlate 1970's, with articles on the history of the congregation in the community,\nincluding an article on Rabbi David Marks who will be a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very important factor in\nthe history of the congregation. I have contacted several members of the\ncongregation of people that Rabbi Sugarman knows who have given me input. These\nincluded Jackie Montag, Marvin Botnik, Larry Pike and David Geffen. I have also\nbeen given a copy of the rabbi's resumé from ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[indistinct: 00:01:29]. I've also\ngone through an interview conducted by Dr. Herbert Karp in 1993 that was\nprovided by the Archives and Jeremy Katz. Rabbi, this is going to be as\nthoroughgoing an interview as possible. What I'm going to do is start by going\nall the way back to your past and then gradually bring it up to the forward. I\nthink it would be best if we started ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by going into your family background. Your\nfather was Meyer Sugarman. Your mother was . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Helaine.\n\nBAUMANN: Helaine Mark-Sugarman. Let's start with your father and your father's\nfamily. Where did they come from? What did they do?\n\nSUGARMAN: They came from Budapest [Hungary] on the matriarch side of the\ngrandparents. [On] ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the patriarchal side, my granddad came over when he was\nfifteen from somewhere in Bavaria, in Germany, and came to Cincinnati [Ohio]\nwhere so many of the German Jews were. [He] probably [came] in the early 1880's,\nbecause they were already in Atlanta in the later ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1880's, very late 1880's. My\ndad was the first of the Sugarman family to be born in Atlanta, and he was born\nin 1892, so maybe was 1888, 1899, 1899 or maybe even 1890 or night before they\nended up in Atlanta. I do not know to this day how they happened to get to\nAtlanta. I would love to know ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that. They were, do you want some details of the\nfamily, the siblings?\n\nBAUMANN: Let's stick with your grandfather first. He comes to Cincinnati. What\ndoes he do in Cincinnati?\n\nSUGARMAN: I have no idea.\n\nBAUMANN: What did he do it in Atlanta?\n\nSUGARMAN: In Atlanta? They had a, boy I wish we still had that property, and\nit's a store . . . they had a store about, I don't know, maybe a block off of\nFive Points [Atlanta neighborhood] on Decatur Street. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was a dry goods store\nand I almost want you to turn off the camera, because I remember my daddy\ntelling me that when they would come in the store and they would buy something,\nokay, it could have been possibly some rural folks or maybe just some citizen of\nAtlanta. When they would leave, he'd say, have a [indistinct: 00:04:28; Hebrew\nfor drop dead)], which means, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"do you know what it means? Drop dead. They would\nsay, \"Same to you, Mr. Sugarman.\" Ain't nothing like Jewish humor, but they had\nthat store for a good while. Interestingly enough, if you know anything about\nAtlanta history, there's a shoe chain here called Thompson Boland-Lee, it's\nsince out of business, they had about five stores. There was a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"little Jewish\nlady, I think her first name was Lena Goldberg, who used to, in the early\n1900's, I worked there as a kid from when I was sixteen until I graduated [from]\nEmory [University]. She would go to my grandmother, who was a wig maker, make\nhandmade wigs.\n\nBAUMANN: For the Orthodox women?\n\nSUGARMAN: I never thought about that actually. It had to have been, it had to\nhave been part of her ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"clientele. I'm not sure Ms. Goldberg was Orthodox, but she\nmight have been because she sold shoes down at Thompson Boland-Lee. She came to\nme when, I first, as a kid, and she said, \"Was your grandmother Molly Sugarman?\"\nI said, yeah, she said, \"Well, I went to her.\" She maybe even handed me a\nreceipt once. Signed by my grandmother.\n\nBAUMANN: What was your grandfather's name?\n\nSUGARMAN: Okay, Louis.\n\nBAUMANN: Louis.\n\nSUGARMAN: Louis? Yeah.\n\nBAUMANN: Now Decatur Street at that stage was geared towards a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"black poor\nclientele. Is that the nature of his clientele?\n\nSUGARMAN: In the early 1900's?\n\nBAUMANN: Yeah.\n\nSUGARMAN: I didn't realize, I didn't, I never knew that. I just assumed it was\ntypical Atlanta. I didn't, I didn't know that. I knew, I used to work at\nEdgewood and Butler. Just a few blocks down with my uncle. [He] had a ten-cent\nstore and most of our clientele were African American. I didn't realize back,\nthat far back.\n\nBAUMANN: In 1906, there was a race riot in Atlanta, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it was associated with\nthe Red-Light District, but it also was partly targeted to Jews who owned liquor\nstores in the area. Was there any association between that and your grandparents?\n\nSUGARMAN: No, not that I'm aware. Now that, just remember I'm talking about the\n. . . it was, I can give you the address, it was 104 Decatur Street, now that I\nremember him . . . 104 and I never . . . that would be interesting to see what\nhappened to 104 ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Decatur Street.\n\nBAUMANN: Yeah, that's very interesting. Okay. Now, was your grandfather involved\nin the history of The Temple?\n\nSUGARMAN: Interestingly enough, they were members of The Temple, I think from\nalmost the day they came here, because my daddy used to tell me he and his\nbrothers and sister, in order to get to Sunday school, rather than carpool, they\nwould open the back door, walk across the backyard ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and walk into the backyard of\nThe Temple. They literally, their house backed up to, backed up to The Temple.\nNow, oh God, I wish I was better at keeping, it's somewhere. I have a report\ncard. It could have been 1899 it could have been 1906, from one of our former\nmembers. When I say former, she's passed ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"away. That's what I meant, one of our\nlate members, signed Rose S. Sugarman. That was my aunt who was like a second\nmother to me, who taught religious school here. She also taught at the old\nJewish Alliance, and she taught English to Lewis Levitis [sp], if you know who\nI'm talking about, taught him to speak English. I think they even dated a while\nand she introduced her to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ida who became LJ's wife, Lewis Levitis's [sp] wife.\nShe never married, I don't know whether she regretted, like on top of whatever\nthat song with the Tennessee Waltz introducing . . .\n\nBAUMANN: Now if she was involved in the Jewish Educational Alliance and working\nwith the immigrants, my guess is your family was deeply involved in the National\nCouncil of Jewish Women.\n\nSUGARMAN: Aunt Rose would have been it [she] could, yeah if she . . .\n\nBAUMANN: What about like your grandmother?\n\nSUGARMAN: Not that I'm aware of. She died ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"relatively young. She died in 1927,\n1927. My granddaddy died in 1940, maybe 1940. That's the only memory I have of\nhim. Is sitting on his lap and he was already in some kind of retirement home,\ntickling his mustache, sitting on his lap and pulling at his myself when I was\nabout three. He must have still been alive in 1941.\n\nBAUMANN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Very interesting. What do you consider your legacy from your appearance\non this?\n\nSUGARMAN: It can be very provincial. The fact that they were members of The\nTemple and built that foundation for Reform Judaism, even though . . . I know\nyou've done the thing on David Marks when my Uncle Sam, who was my second\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"father, in every sense of the word met Adams [sp]. She was a member of AA\n[Ahavath Achim] and brought her in to meet Rabbi Mark. You know the story?\nBrought her into Rabbi Mark.\n\nBAUMANN: And into marriage\n\nSUGARMAN: Right and to introduce him to his fiancée. Rabbi Mark looked at him\nand said, \"Sam, you have left the fold.\" I mean, that was a bitter, it was a\ntough thing for my uncle to swallow growing up. 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They had never been to a seder and\nthat was their first introduction to what a Jewish meal was and what it meant to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"observe a holiday. They became, but my Aunt Rose, the one who signed the report\ncard, even though she became she was probably one of the first female Jewish\nexecutives. She became executive director of the Jewish Community Center in\nColumbus [Ohio] and lived in Columbus, but never gave up her membership and The\nTemple. She's the one, actually, that made sure that I went to Sunday school\nhere, was enrolled here, and kept up the reform. It would be the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reform legacy,\nthe, to hear like the little lady. Thompson only talk about my grandmother and\nto hear my dad talk about her and the character and the positive terms was a\nwonderful legacy for me. My grandfather, probably, he, I don't know how\nsuccessful he was in the general term ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the sense of success when. He was a\nreal man about town. Impeccable, with a flower on his lapel and dressed.\n\nBAUMANN: Was he involved in community affairs?\n\nSUGARMAN: To the best of my knowledge, I do not know. The fact that I do not\nknow, probably the answer is no. I don't know that I remember. I was only three\nwhen he died.\n\nBAUMANN: Let's switch over. I want to come back to your aunt and uncle and your\nfather. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=720.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"First, let's go into the background of your mother and your mother's family.\n\nSUGARMAN: Okay, fascinating. When her father, whose name Alex Marks. A.k.a. the\nfamily, came over in the late 1840's and were founding members of From All Sides\nReign, founding members of Gates of Prayer . . .\n\nBAUMANN: In the World . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: And New Orleans [Louisiana] in case of prayer. I was once on a camp\nstaff with a rabbi, Nate Cher, who was the rabbi ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=750.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that ended up marrying my\nparents in New Orleans. When he was 15 years old, his father had a shoe polish\nbusiness in New Orleans.\n\nBAUMANN: Give me names.\n\nSUGARMAN: I'm sorry.\n\nBAUMANN: Give me names here.\n\nSUGARMAN: Okay, I may be, my daughter did some genealogy, and she may have those\nnames. They were buried in one of the New Orleans cemeteries.\n\nBAUMANN: Alright. This would be . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: This would be my great grandparents. Great grandfather had the shoe\npolish ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=780.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"business. They sent him out with a, I guess with the pushcart to go from\nstore-to-store door. I was selling soup and it was pouring down rain. New\nOrleans doesn't have a good flood climate. He came home, sobbing at 15, knowing\nthey were going to send him back to the old country because all the stuff was\nruined. He slipped and fell. I mean, they told me that story over and over. I\nremember as a little man going down there and sleeping at ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their house in a\nfour-poster bed. This was New Orleans, with mosquito netting all over the bed,\npayment for air-conditioned clothes, windows and everything and riding the old\ncrescent train from Atlanta to New Orleans. I didn't get to do that often\nbecause my mom died when I was five. She never really, I think, got New Orleans\nout of her system. I always felt that I had . . . the interesting thing, David\nMarx's is in New Orleans, as I recall.\n\nBAUMANN: But there was no ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=840.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fan . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: There was no, M-A-R-X, actually. It was a very small a family that was\nnamed after a cousin that lived in Galveston [Texas], which is, they came in\nthrough Galveston. The family, and he must have stayed there. He died very\nyoung. They named, it was Alvin Mawsy, probably changed it from Marx to Maws.\nM-A-W-S, M-A-A S-something.\n\nBAUMANN: Which is very interesting. You had a close association then with New\nOrleans, in New ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Orleans.\n\nSUGARMAN: Yes. Only as a tiny youngster. Although my Uncle Leon, who was the one\nthat introduced my mom and dad, he moved. He married a Rose Wechsler. Big family\nand the Wechsler family in New Orleans, one was a physician, forgotten her name.\nA female married Rose Wechsler. It was, they, Uncle Leon and his wife Rose\nintroduced my dad to my mother. Elaine ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marx.\n\nBAUMANN: Did you have close association with the rabbis and Gates of Prayer?\n\nSUGARMAN: Rabbi Scherr [sp], Rabbi Nate Scherr because I got to know him\nthrough, we spent at least a summer or two together at camp in Utica,\nMississippi. A new, a new Jewish camp, reformed Jewish camp.\n\nBAUMANN: Very, very interesting. I'd like to follow through on that. Okay. Now,\nlet's come back to your father. What do your father ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"do?\n\nSUGARMAN: Okay. My father, from a very early age, this is a story that just\nbears repeating. It was, I think [William] McKinley was assassinated in 1998. I\nthink 1898. I'm not going to assume but I could be off a year or two. Which if\nit was 1998, my daddy was six and my Uncle Sam was somewhere between eight and\nten. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They were selling newspaper together at Five Points [Atlanta neighborhood].\nMcKinley sinking, McKinley, you know, coming back because he went back and forth\nthrough the assassination. I remember my dad telling me that my uncle came over\nloud on my, a ladder, selling the newspapers at six or seven or eight years old.\nMy uncle went to work for Montag [Montag Brothers Inc.].\n\nBAUMANN: So with ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your father before we get into your own.\n\nSUGARMAN: Okay. It's because that's where my dad went to work in my day. That's\nwhy I brought that up. Okay. He followed him. He followed him to Montag. Oh,\nGod. I know I have the, it's on a thing. There's a, there was a big newspaper\narticle. He worked in the stockroom first. Then there was a big newspaper\narticle with a picture great Jewish-American. I've got it hanging on the wall. I\nhad it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"framed of my dad and my Uncle Sam with two Model T's. One was brand new\nand probably 1913 or 1915 or 1911 19-somewhere in there with their straw hats\nand their sample cases and the typical Jewish American. The big article was \"Two\nbrothers to take over city of Atlanta territory\", because Uncle Sam's territory\nhad been so successful, they needed a second ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"salesman. They brought my dad out\nof the stockroom. It's a big, long article about them. It published in the local\npress, and which press it was, but I do have that picture.\n\nBAUMANN: Apparently your uncle worked for Montag. Your father and I think three\nof the brothers were there for months.\n\nSUGARMAN: I think uncle, I think they the two other brothers, maybe Leon and\nHarry all ended up working for Montag at one point.\n\nBAUMANN: Why? What was the connection? Did you know the Montag?\n\nSUGARMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I guess from, I guess from way back in the late 1890's or, and maybe\nthey knew him just through the professional working there, or maybe because the\nGerman-Jewish family being here . I think the two that stayed there the longest\nwere my dad and my uncle. My uncle stayed there until he was Sam Blue Horse\nSugarman. He invented; they ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"came up with the idea of the Blue Horse School\nSupply thing. My dad always used to tell me, \"Don't be like me, be like your\nUncle Sam.\"\n\nBAUMANN: Why?\n\nSUGARMAN: My aunt and uncle were the, is this all going to be . . . because this\nis very private and personal. This may be getting a little ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too . . . because\nthis is just me. It's not that simple. I mean . . .\n\nBAUMANN: I'm not going to use this for the history of The Temple. Okay. Just an\ninterview of record so for 50 years from now, a historian will be able to come\nback and understand you better. Okay.\n\nSUGARMAN: I like to be able to understand me better, but my dad. I had two\nhalf-brothers. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was married twice.\n\nBAUMANN: Your grandfather would have been married twice. You said your father\nhad two half-brothers.\n\nSUGARMAN: I mean, I have two half-brothers and two half-brothers. He married a\nwoman from Pensacola [Florida], Flora Loeb, L-O-E-B, was his first wife and one\nof The Temple members, Hortense Stall [sp], a blessed memory. [She] brought me a\nwedding picture where she was a bridesmaid ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in my father's first wedding. I think\nshe lived at like 104. The day she died, she called The Temple and said, \"Can\nAlvin come by to see me?\" I went by and said, [indistinct: 00:20:45; Hebrew] and\nshe died the next day. We once had a service, the first service we ever had\nwhere I got the idea where we're always in Yom Kippur reading the risk of those\nwho died. I said, \"Why don't we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"read on Rosh? On Rosh Hashanah morning, the\nnames of those who were born. We called it and I brought all the babies up that\nwere here. I brought Hortense up to show that and we called it Hortense and the\nBabies. They were all strung across the . . . To answer your question, Uncle Sam\nwas like a rock in the family and so was my Aunt ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rose. In Columbus [Ohio], even\nthough she was there, she was always a very important part of my life when she\nmoved to Atlanta, I think not too long after I was confirmed in 1954 and moved\nto the owl [sp] house. I think it was like a big brother. He always looked up to\nUncle Sam. Quite frankly, when my mother died in 1940, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"December the 23, 1943. I\nwas five and a half. My dad, they owned a store together, across from where the\nAtlanta Fulton County Stadium used to be on Georgia Avenue, 76 Georgia Avenue. I\nremember working in the store one day when I was five, and I'm putting the word\nwork. He let me push the cash register and promise me $5 to pay me. I still\ndon't have the $5, but I'm still . . . can you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"imagine the interest on what that\nwould be? They ran the store together and I remember him telling me we lived at\n815 Ponce de Leon then the corner of Bonaventure and Ponce de Leon. It's no\nlonger there. It's now condos. It was an apartment house. I'll tell you who else\nlived there, it was Sidney Marcus [sp]. [She] became involved in the, I just\ntalked to Sandra's sister. We've been friends for all those years. There's\npictures of us when she's like four and I'm three, you know, driving a little\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1350.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"toy car, some big old sunglasses. My dad always told me that they never came\nhome, never came home from the store without some tchotchkes that she would\nbring me, for her little prince. She called me that. I'm kind of just reflecting\nthen growing up, is this what you want? As far as the role of Uncle Sam, because\non December the 7th, which we just had an anniversary of Pearl Harbor 1941. 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I remember\nthe lady, the housekeeper that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was staying with us, tying my little saddle\noxfords and Uncle Sam coming by to pick me up to take me to my first circus. The\ncircus, interesting enough, is, was at the site of where Montag was. The legend\nwas that there were 11 elephants, that some somebody went nuts and poisoned . .\n. 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He would look for ads in the paper and\nsomebody said, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Radio for sale\" because you couldn't buy a new radio and maybe\nhad a tube missing or something. He would buy it. Then he had a buddy that was\nin the radio, and they put a tube in it and the $5 radio would sell for $35 or\nwhatever. The financial support, the solid financial support we had came from\nUncle Sam and Aunt Rose. I remember . . . We got our first television, the uncle\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in New Orleans wanted to contribute, but he said, \"Whatever you do, don't get a\nscreen bigger than I got. I got a 12 and a half inch. Don't get one.\"\n\nBAUMANN: That would have been probably the early 1950's.\n\nSUGARMAN: It was a britches in AMC Riches Grand Own. It was a little crossover there.\n\nBAUMANN: You said, if I remember correctly, your father had been married twice.\nYou've had half-brothers.\n\nSUGARMAN: Yes. From that first from that, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"actually, Flora Loeb, the boys was six\nand eight when he divorced. I remember him telling me that he could never go\ninto a movie with a child because it would make him cry, sad.\n\nBAUMANN: What was your relationship with these brothers.\n\nSUGARMAN: It was what, they were, both served in World War Two. They would send\nme water toys. They were quite a bit older than me. The one in Pensacola was the\nfirst ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one. First one drafted in Pensacola County, whatever county it was.\n\nBAUMANN: What were their names?\n\nSUGARMAN: They were Sigmund, but everyone calls him Sig and Meyer Junior. As he\ngrew older, he changed it to Mike. He was in Eisenhower's headquarters in Paris\n[France]. I brought them together, brought the two brothers together. 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The other one, he was,\nhe worked for Eastman [Chemical Company] for years and came up with an invention\nfor the military, which no big deal now, but was a big deal then ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that five miles\naway if somebody struck a match, you could see it. When he left Eastman, that's\nwhy he moved to Chicago, he went with a Pico American Photocopy Company and was\ninvolved in. Then I think he ended up with Xerox after that. He was like a\nchemical engineer. I mean, you knew he was a bright, bright guy.\n\nBAUMANN: Did you have any direct brothers and sisters?\n\nSUGARMAN: No, because my mom died when I was five and she was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"already in those\ndays. Oh, to be married. I think she was like 36 when they got married. 36 or 37.\n\nBAUMANN: Interesting. Okay. Let's go into your relationship with your aunts and\nuncles, which was very, very close.\n\nSUGARMAN: Yeah. That was, I mean, anybody could have had an even any closer\nparticularly. Well, you know. I was just really blessed, the ones in New\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Orleans. Because they were not here. I was near as. Close to. My Aunt Rose\nbecause they she rarely left New Orleans. I, I don't ever remember seeing her in\nL.A. They were very provincial in Uncle Leo. But when Uncle Leo would come\ntogether, the brothers would all get together. It was like the Three Stooges. I\nmean, laughing and cutting up, I mean, and telling tales, you know, from the old\ndays. And it was wonderful because it was wonderful for me to see ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them together\nbecause I had heard all these tales. And they uncle in New Orleans, they were\nall. You need to have this context when. Aunt Rose was. Six. The one in\nColumbus, six years old in 1892. She was holding her four-year-old sister's\nhand. Lena Uncle Sam was, too. He was up. In the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"window looking at them.\nThey're going across the street to get an ice cream cone. Atlanta had just put\nin an electric streetcar, one of the first cities. And as they were crossing the\nstreet, Uncle William was waving. And the little one, the four-year-old, pulled\naway from. My aunt. And darted out. In front of one of the street cars and was\nsomebody was seven and a half. Okay. My grandmother was pregnant with my dad in\nthe in her womb, so ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"probably sometime in the summer of 92. She was just a few\nmonths pregnant. They came to her house, and they thought, it's not knowing it\nwas her child and said, we need a blanket, this child. And my theory is that the\ntwo older ones, Sam and Rose, the survivors, they were told, whatever. You do,\nyou take care. You know, they became the Solomons. The others were all a little\nwacky, you know, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because each one of them had a theory and one of them was hit\nin the head by. A swing when it was hit by a horse. I don't know what hit my\ndad, but they were all a little wacky. Now they all had stable marriages. Okay.\nAnd the one. In New Orleans, that's funny. All the three ended up. In like a the\nvariety store business. He had five stores in it, maybe just to what I call\nUncle Harry at five stores. Used to be Karl Atkins, five and ten. And ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he called\nhis showrooms department store. It was a variety store to go in department store\nnumber 1505, South. Lopez Street and Sugarman, department store number two. Then\nI'll remember the address and that. And every time his wife. Would turn her\nhead, he would go right out on Lake Pontchartrain and go fishing. But he was he\nwas the clown of the group. The well, my Uncle Sam wasn't a clown. But the two\nother of.\n\nBAUMANN: Your legacy is your sense of humor.\n\nSUGARMAN: Right? Yeah. I mean, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it was the, Uncle Leon and my dad had the best\nsense of humor because I mean, my dad never met a stranger. I mean, I'm sure the\nnight he died. He would go around. I was on the road in Montgomery [Alabama]\nwith Montag. I always called him at 6:00 every Wednesday night just to touch\nbase. No answer. He would always go around the corner to the old colony, which\nis still there on Cheshire Bridge. But he would also ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1920.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"schmooze. [There] used to\nbe a 7-11 there. He schmoozed with everybody. He never met a stranger. He did\nlove to cut up that great sense of humor. I don't want to lose you. You have to\nhelp me get back on track. I have a relationship with my aunt and Uncle Sam.\nEvery holiday, a major holiday, the Passover and Yom HaShoah aunt Rose would\ncome ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back. We would go with her. My dad and I would go with her to services here\nat Temple. The rest of the Atlanta family, Uncle Sam and his wife went to AA\nbecause of that [indistinct: 00:33:16]. Uncle Harry married a non-Jewish woman\nPearl Hazel Riggs, even though they raised their child Jewish. She never\nformally converted, but I think she considered ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"herself. They would be here at\nThe Temple. The three of us, Aunt Rose, who came come in from Columbus, and my\ndad and I would go to Services, and I remember at age eight Rabbi Rothschild\ntaking the Torah out of the air and saying it's a tree of life to them that hold\nfast to it. 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Rose once told me when I was, I\nguess, right after I was confirmed, she said, \"Whatever you want to do in life,\neven if you have to eat cold biscuits, you can do it if you want it bad enough.\"\nThat ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stuck with me.\n\nBAUMANN: That's what you did.\n\nSUGARMAN: Then she . . . I mean, I was cutting grass when I was 11 years old,\ntrying to help and then working through Thompson only until I graduated . . .\n\nBAUMANN: Did you sell Newspapers?\n\nSUGARMAN: That was my dad selling. I did . . . Barbara gets a kick out of my\nwife because we called it a Smiley's Scoop Candy Pull and it was just taffy. I\nalways would win the contests selling the most candy pull until ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you take it for\na dime or three for a quarter that you could come to school and get three get\nyour, if you the quarter ticket, get three rolls of old taffy. We used to call\nit pully game. Barbara would say, \"Why did you call it pulling game?\" It's what\nwe call it. I didn't know. Anyway.\n\nBAUMANN: I'm going to jump ahead just briefly and then we're going to come back.\nNow, your Uncle Sam was married to Ida.\n\nSUGARMAN: Right Ida Meyers was her maiden name, Meyers.\n\nBAUMANN: It wasn't accepted by The Temple.\n\nSUGARMAN: No. I mean, you know Sam, with ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2100.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the finger that you have left the fold.\n\nBAUMANN: Okay.\n\nSUGARMAN: They lost a hell of a good member, a hell of a good member, Uncle Sam.\n\nBAUMANN: You also had intermarriages.\n\nSUGARMAN: Right. With the youngest, right. Right.\n\nBAUMANN: Okay. Harry Epstein. Rabbi Harry Epstein of a, called you the marrying rabbi.\n\nSUGARMAN: Call me the married rabbi?\n\nBAUMANN: Called you the marrying rabbi.\n\nSUGARMAN: Meaning that I would . . .\n\nBAUMANN: Because you would marry into marriage, etc., that you were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very, very\nliberal in your perspective on marriages. Is it partly because of your family background?\n\nSUGARMAN: It's got to be because Aunt Pearl, who was a Hazel Riggs, had a very\nlarge family. Christmas Day, we always, when in fact, interesting insight. My\nmom died on December the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"23rd. She was buried on Christmas Eve. They didn't tell\nme for a month later. We'll come to that in a second. Where did I go? Aunt\nPearl's house with the tree. They always had a tree. There was an ice storm that\nday in Atlanta. I went to the Emory Archives and found the old Michael Microfilm\nnewspaper in. 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I don't think I've ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ever told Jonathan that his\ndaddy did my mother's funeral. 40 years later on my mother's side I took my wife\nto the cemetery site. Should have a rabbi and I redid the service for her. My\ndad would always take me to the cemetery. I mean, often I remember playing at\nthat cemetery. I remember when my mom died. This is a major factor ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in my\ndecision to become a rabbi. I do not know who this lady was, but she came to me\nnot long after. They waited 30 days to tell me. In fact, I had to tell my dad.\n\nBAUMANN: Where were you?\n\nSUGARMAN: I was at home, and they kept telling me. She was too sick in the\nhospital for me because I used to go see her always that they are all Piedmont\nHospital. Finally, I told my dad. I can see him sitting on that Duncan five\nsofa. I said, my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mommy's dead. I'll never see her again.\" At then he started to\ncry and told me and the kids in the neighborhood once they found out, nanananana\nyou don't have a mom. All this is in the book that I'm working on if I live long\nenough to get it done. Aunt Pearl was where I was. She was, and then every\nChristmas day, we went to her house for Christmas dinner with the best fried\nchicken ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and apple pie. I have very warm memories. I remember her telling me over\nand over and over again, I will be your mom. I will be your mom. She couldn't\nhave been. That had to have a lot to do with it. Plus, the fact, I told you that\nmy two brothers [were] in the war, too. They would send me war tours. I remember\nspecifically in the middle of World War Two, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"being in the front yard of a little\napartment at 571 Boulevard, which is gone too, it's just a vacant lot now. This\nlady, coming up and talking to me and asking me where my mommy was. I said, \"I\ndon't have a momma.\" Then she said, \"Well, where's your dad?\" They met and they\nbecame. You need me to stop?\n\nBAUMANN: No, no.\n\nSUGARMAN: They became very, very close friends. Her husband was an ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"executive\nwith the BellSouth Telephone Company. Her name was Mrs. Reid. Okay. His name\nwas, Vinton V-I-N-T-O-N, R Vinton Reid R-E-I-D. We would have dinner at their\nhouse. She just kind of adopted me and decided that I should go to vacation\nbible school one day. I must enroll all of one day. When I came home with the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2400.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"picture of the coloring book with Jesus, that was my dad said, \"Okay, no more\nvacation.\" She meant well, but it was the old. The church right down here at\nPeachtree and 5th [Street] maybe St. Mark's Methodist Church. [It] had a side\nentrance that, but my Bible school career was short lived.\n\nBAUMANN: She couldn't save your soul.\n\nSUGARMAN: She was so kind. There's no question ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"between Aunt Pearl and . . .\n\nBAUMANN: Aunt Ida . . . ?\n\nSUGARMAN: And Mrs. Reid . . . It's no accident probably right before you came. I\nwas having a lunch with; they have a big API dinner here tomorrow night that I\ncan't go to. In the meantime, I was meeting with their foundation guy, and I was\ntelling him about my first pulpit, which was founded by a nun ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Boca Raton,\nFlorida. My very first holiday services, the back three rows, I was a student at\nUSC [University of South Carolina]. It was a student holiday, the back three\nrows, all nuns because . . .\n\nBAUMANN: The nuns founded the congregation?\n\nSUGARMAN: The Mother Superior went to, there was no Jewish congregation in Boca\nat that time. Okay? Half of them went to, the bulk of community Jewish, went to\nFort Lauderdale [Florida]. The other half, probably to Palm, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"West Palm Beach\n[Florida]. She said, \"This is ridiculous. I have this. Facility here at,\nMarymount College, was the name of the college, why don't you come here?\" They\nagreed and they contacted HTC [Hebrew Theological College] and said, we need a\nstudent rabbi. Now it's like 2000 families in Salmonberry [sp].\n\nBAUMANN: Okay, let's come back to you. Okay? Your date of birth is . . . ?\n\nSUGARMAN: Oh, I never finished with that lady said, that was very important. I'm\nsorry. This little lady came to me and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said much of it not long after I found\nout, I mean that I had verified that my, \"God took your mother because God\nneeded her in heaven.\" I know darn good and well, even at five years old,\nsomething must have said. This does not compute. Why does God need my mommy more\nthan I need. . . ? Then to have left me with a God in charge, if you take the\ntraditional theology, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which I don't, with a mentally ill father who did the\nunbelievable job the best he could and raising me that ultimately I became a\nrabbi, not because I had the answers, because I had the questions, which I still have.\n\nBAUMANN: Okay. Let's go back to you as a child. You're a date of birth is what?\n\nSUGARMAN: June 30, 1938.\n\nBAUMANN: Okay. Now, Rabbi Marks had a tremendous influence ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on The Temple and was\na powerful, powerful figure. What are your memories of the rabbi? What impact\ndid he have on you?\n\nSUGARMAN: He's a very small man in stature. I remember that the clearest\nmemories I have are from religious school. Okay. Because we would come down to\nShabbat morning services. That was when we had such a large religious school we\nhad ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"split up, so ended up being a part of the Saturday school. Seeing him walk\non the pulpit, this tiny, tiny man and opening his mouth and this hush. He was\nsuch a powerful orator and speaker. That was the most the most direct memory.\nOther memories I have were the stories that Jack Rothschild blessed me, or my\nJanice shared with ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me about Dr. Marx. Interestingly enough, for some reason he\nwas. He didn't conduct my [indistinct: 00:44:39], but the assistant rabbi did,\nwho was Dr. Samuel Sandel, who became a professor of Bible at HUC [Hebrew Union\nCollege] at the seminary, and who came back and install me as a rabbi. We became\nvery good friend. He was the provost of the college when ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I applied to HUC . . .\nyour question about interfaith work and I still do a lot of interfaith work. Are\nyou familiar with Higher Ground?\n\nBAUMANN: No good.\n\nSUGARMAN: Okay. Higherground.org is four of us, retired clergy, Imam Plement\nEl-Amin, Johanna, Adams, who was a senior pastor for years at Trinity ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and Joe\nRoberts, who succeeded Martin Luther King Jr. at Ebenezer. The four of us have\nformed a group called Higher Ground, and we write blogs, and we speak at\ndifferent community events and churches and do panels from Westminster to\nNewman, Georgia, to Columbia Theological Seminary.\n\nBAUMANN: It's interesting when we describe Rabbi Marks, we use the phrase\nambassador to the Gentiles.\n\nSUGARMAN: Right, exactly right. That was I was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2730.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"always told that's what he was.\nIn fact, when I was installed, I said, David Marx built a bridge to the\nGentiles. Jack Rothschild cross that bridge and got involved. now, you know\nyou're going to walk over that bridge with me.\n\nBAUMANN: Very interesting.\n\nSUGARMAN: I need to run to the minerals, if I may? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2760.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.\n\nBAUMANN: Good. Thank you. We had been talking about Dr. Marks and your\nrelationship with Dr. Marks. Dr. Marks's role going back to his first platform\nfor being the ambassador of the Gentiles. His key organization with that was the\nNational Council of Christians and Jews. Besides different organizations he was\ninvolved in directly in Atlanta, he created a unity thing of he and a couple of\nother ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2790.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"clergies at the time. You've also mentioned Franklin Marks is speaking\nfrom the pulpit. What impact did the image of Marks' have on your image of the\nreverend and the role of the rabbi?\n\nSUGARMAN: The fact, it's more that, he retired in 46 when I was eight years old.\nI think the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"power of being able . . . my wife always kids me about being a ham\nand wanting the spotlight. If you're going to be a successful rabbi, you've got\nto have a sense of confidence and ego to get out there like a nut and preach, to\nquote. It's an interesting. 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Freud would say, \"It was no accident that I left my notes ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on my desk.\" I\ncame out and told the congregation, I said, \"I have my sermons, so bear with\nme.\" But I don't. It's on my desk. Then from that moment on I might have a text,\nbut I was able to speak extemporaneously. I think his primary thing was the\nhistorical legacy that he left me and the outreach to the community. From a\npulpit point of view, when you first ask him, the first thing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remembered was\nhim walking out there and this hush. That was, eight years old, you know? It\nmade an awfully powerful impact . . .\n\nBAUMANN: The rabbi . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Although I had to be a little off during conflict during the Sunday\nschool classes. I was probably in my early teens here. In fact, when I was\nconfirmed. David Geffen and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I were asked to each give a little. Sermon at the\nBBYO [B'nai Brith Youth Organization] Shabbat and share with Israel. Before they\nhad a sanctuary. I gave a sermon; I had plagiarized my confirmation text\nreligion as a source of comfort during your darkest hours. That was my sermon\ntitle. I mean, that's a great sermon title. I did my little sermon there. We\nwere walking ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"down the stairs at that old social hall building before they had\nthis sanctuary and share this earth is because that's where the BB was. The\nwoman, I don't know who, it was the present B'nai Brith woman came up to me and\nthere were tears in her eyes. She said, \"What you said meant so much to me.\" I\nremember walking and this was I had just turned 16. Because right after I was\nconfirmed. I remember saying to myself, \"Wow, I wonder what it'd be like ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to be a\nrabbi.\" That was probably, it had to be the first time that the word rabbi and\nme were conjoined, so to speak. I've never forgotten that. I mean, but again, it\nprobably goes back to really to somewhat to David Marks to being able to reach people.\n\nBAUMANN: You're okay. Let's start to go into your education. You started at\nSmillie School where you became friends with Bob Lipschitz, who keeps coming ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back.\n\nSUGARMAN: Right and it was really the congregation. It was his mother on the way\nhome from school that, [we] would often stop at his mom's house. She would give\nme peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. I really knew her better than Bob,\nbecause he was somewhat older than I.\n\nBAUMANN: Now . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: I don't know how we; the families went way back. I don't know how. My\nSunday school teacher was married to, Was Bob's aunt. I mean, Bob's uncle, I\nmean, was married to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bob saying, whatever, I'm done.\n\nBAUMANN: Yeah.\n\nSUGARMAN: Bootsie [indistinct: 00:51:32]. She was Bootsie whatever the maiden .\n. . Gavaron, G-A-V-A-R-O-N I think was her . . .\n\nBAUMANN: It's just amazing to me that you would remember a Sunday school teacher.\n\nSUGARMAN: Oh no, he was . . . That's a whole another story. My Sunday school\ncareer was . . . for some reason it meant an awful lot to me.\n\nBAUMANN: Alright let's go into that story.\n\nSUGARMAN: Okay. I guess it goes back to the fifth-grade teacher, George Goldman.\nDid you ever know ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"George Goldman? There was only one George Goldman. We used to\nkid him for being the world's oldest living Boy Scout. When we left, the fifth\ngrade, so that would have been ten roughly. When we left Boulevard, it was still\nvery hard. It was close enough to the end of the war [World War 2], it would\nhave been 1948. It was still apartments, [indistinct: 00:52:26], and we couldn't\nfind an apartment. We moved into this ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"duplex. It was actually old house in\nLittle Five Points and George Goldman, I don't know how that happened, my\nfifth-grade teacher would come and pick me up and take me back and forth to\nSunday School. I know why he didn't . . . He lived not too far from that on\nOakdale Road, right off Oakdale and North Decatur. He would come by every\nmorning, and we became lifelong friends. From a fifth grade Sunday school\nteacher to sharing black, little black books, even though he was quite a bit\nolder than me. Until ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"double dating the day I proposed to my wife. We climbed\nStone Mountain on New Year's Eve in 1964. We became life . . . so he was a very\npositive influence. I think, two years I won the scholarship award, or whatever\nthey called it, for outstanding Sunday school . . . and I would get an inscribed\nbook from Rabbi ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rothschild. You know, with a little inscription in it. My Ellery\nSharon. Was my seventh-grade teacher who ended up being the executive director\nhere at Temple Bazaar. I have some of these connections. My ninth-grade teacher,\nMartin Fenster. Do you know the story of Martin Fenster? His was John Marshall\nLaw School. He and his brother ran John Marshall Law School. He became a\nlifelong friend. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know how all this happened, but it did. The officers .\n. .\n\nBAUMANN: Your teachers became lifelong friends? Amazing\n\nSUGARMAN: Yeah, it is. In the meantime, he was going to HUC to study Talmud as a\nlayperson. He was a practiced attorney and ran John Marshall Law School. We\nalways had lunch from time to time and make a long story, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"horrible story short.\nThere was a knock on, he was visiting his mother in Morningside. They've never\nsolved the case, but somebody came in, tied him up and executed him. I was at\nthe Varsity on the way to make a late night, when I say late, like 7:00 or 8:00\nhospital call and payphone. I call my wife and she said, \"You can't go to\nCrawford Long, Martin Fenster just been murdered. I went to the house, and I\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"walked in there. His wife, who's still a very good friend, Elaine Fenster, his\nwidow, started beating on me and said, \"I don't want to see you. You and your\ndamn God, you're going to tell me God is good?\" Because they had lost a son\nthree weeks before he was, before he was confirmed walking on the railroad\ntrestle in Emory, so they'd had more than their share of trash and then to have\nher husband brutally murdered like this. They never solved the case. The\nkindest, the sweetest, most ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wonderful. Our class was hell on wheels. We went\nthrough probably five teachers that year before he came in, and I remember him\nsitting in front of our class crying. That's how bad our class was. We had a kid\nthat Rabbi Rothschild threw out that, he never threw out anybody, but would\nthrow dynamite caps against, the lady became a psychiatrist. We put it against\nthe back wall. I mean and even I, yours truly, Mr. Great Rabbi, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one of the kids\nthat we picked on was horrible. We turn, look this way. We take these books and\nthrow it out the window. I mean, we were just a hellacious class, and I did get\nthe best student in that class. I guess. It's like everything is relative. I\nwasn't such a goody two shoes, but those Sunday school teachers, I mean, had.\nObviously, something was going on inside of me that I was even unaware of that I\nwould focus on anything that had meaning to me.\n\nBAUMANN: There at that stage that would have been ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3360.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very, very little Hebrew, but\nultimately Rothschild started in . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: How about . . . I didn't know a word of Hebrew when I started. You\nsee, the year before, when I made the decision, Rabbi Lehrman of Blessed Memory\nhe had just come here. He gave me like a first-grade primer. Hebrew [indistinct:\n56:50] to learn the alphabet. Then the moral in town, Max Kleinman, taught me\nHebrew grammar. When I got there, believe it or not, after a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"year, I was able to\nget, not at the bottom class not at the top, but at the middle level of every\nentry. Because I studied as hard as I could.\n\nBAUMANN: Then by your senior year, you were helping incoming . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Freshmen back in . . . .\n\nBAUMANN: Reception?\n\nSUGARMAN: Yeah, even my junior year, right.\n\nBAUMANN: Yeah . . . In the school, it's my early elementary . . . What do you\nremember at that school and your education there?\n\nSUGARMAN: At ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Smiilie?\n\nBAUMANN: Yeah.\n\nSUGARMAN: I'm smiling because it's that season of the year. I guess it was my\ndad telling me. We always saying Christmas carols and whenever we would get to\nlike Silent Night. I was really silent. I would just open my mouth and I\nwouldn't allow any words to come out. Today, one of my favorite pastimes of this\nseason of the year is to put on Fish 104.7 ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Christian and listen to, I love\nChristmas music. I wouldn't say a word. I just remember it. I remember the\nteachers. The harshest memory I have, was coming back to kindergarten in January\nbecause my dad kept me out several weeks. He didn't let me go back till I knew .\n. .\n\nBAUMANN: January?\n\nSUGARMAN: Of 1944 and still in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kindergarten. In all the subsequent years, when\nwe made Mother's Day cards, and spelling out M for the million things she gave\nme O, that's so . . . It was always tough. I do remember the teachers. My\nfirst-grade teacher ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was, yes, of second grade, second and third grade. Ms.\nMubin. It's a human story coming up in a minute with a fifth-grade teacher and\nMrs. Taylor. They were always very, very kind and loving. I remember, I guess it\nwas a third grade. They're making me go upstairs to the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seventh grade and read\nbecause I could read. The best is good and bad at Smiilie. Let's get the bad out\nof the way. My dad had a very bad habit of being totally disrespectful of time\ncommitment. If school got out at ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"2:25, he'd say, \"Wait on the front steps and\nI'll pick you up.\" Before I was old enough to walk home and I might be there\n4:25 or 5:00 and the teachers come out and still see me sitting on the steps.\nThat was a very hard thing. 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I know she did all the plays and she cast\nme as one ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of I guess and tie because at the Hanukkah play, courts people or\nsomething or . . . I should have been the jester but all I would [do is] put on\nmy dad's bathrobe back like an hour walk on the stage and all I would say was\nover and over. \"Yes, my Lord. Yes, my Lord\". I probably wanted a bigger symbol\nsomeday. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She was in tears; she was so\nsorry. Decades later, I'm back here. I mean, decades later at Temple. The\nAtlanta Rabbinical Association places an ad in the Old Southern Israelite.\n\"Support Israel. Buy Israel bonds\" and each of a signed it. She calls me up\n[and] said I saw your signature out. You deserve that B plus. And we laughed.\nShe wrote me a long letter, too, and we laughed our heads off. But that was a\nvery, the teachers ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3750.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there were unbelievably supportive and kind, kind to me. I\nmean, I had just the most positive, was a great name for a school, Smiilie.\n\nBAUMANN: What was your favorite subject? Your favorite subject?\n\nSUGARMAN: Reading, I guess. Reading and I want to say math because I love math.\nthe reason I'm hesitating is when I took the GREs at Emory, they told me that I\nwas glad I was not applying for a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3780.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mathematics thing.\n\nBAUMANN: Okay. Now you mention the Christmas carols, things like that. Were\nthere prayers in the public schools that . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: I'm sure they were. I don't remember. I remember the lowest grade all\nthe time at Grady's [High School] but I . . .\n\nBAUMANN: Do you remember the antisemitism?\n\nSUGARMAN: Interestingly enough. Go back. This cannot be because it's too\nincriminating. It cannot be. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We'll have to talk off camera about one instance of antisemitism.\n\nBAUMANN: Is the person still alive?\n\nSUGARMAN: Yes. I have to talk about it afterwards.\n\nBAUMANN: Can you talk about the incident without giving the person's name?\n\nSUGARMAN: I'll tell you more about it after we get up ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3840.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with it. I'll just talk\nabout the incident and then I'll give you the back story off camera. There were\ntwo only two instances at Grady. Our class is so unbelievably close. We just had\nanother reunion luncheon of three days ago or last week at the potato barge.\nIt's a very, one of the students came up to me and said, \"You know, there's so\nmany non-Jewish to so many Jewish kids in this class.\" It's changed my life.\nIt's changed my perspective. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're extremely close class. The two instances I\nhad, one was in the 10th grade, 11th grade. I was my second-year high school\nROTC. I was a master sergeant, a platoon sergeant, and then the sergeant first\nclass, which was one level above, were the squad leaders. I had to stick this\nguy, which meant give him a demerit or something, you know, because [of]\nsomething he'd done. He came up to me and he didn't, he looked at me and he just\nsaid \"You . . .\", ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and you'll really appreciate what I tell you off camera, the\nfuture that, [He said] \"You goddamned dirty Jew\" okay. The other time was this\nwas another, this was a very prominent Atlanta family whose name was well known.\nHe was in my senior class and each class nominated a Prince Charming okay. For a\njoke, Howard Berman, one of my classmates and a good ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3930.0,3960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"friend, a blessed memory,\ndecided to stuff the ballot box with my name. There were 33 kids in the class, I\ngot like 38 votes, you know. Maddie Sue Walker's counting, [she said] \"There's\nsomething fishy . . .\" and we're dying, the class is laughing. They knew what\nwas going on. This guy who, blond, blue eyed, you know, the perfect Prince\nCharming. We all knew he was the one that was going to get it. He comes up to me\nand he didn't say this. We're all laughing, having a good time. He didn't say\nit. He ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3960.0,3990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"spit it out at me, \"Jew boy.\" Okay. His, I know his brother fairly well.\nI've lost contact with him. I don't think he ever showed up in any of the,\nalthough I asked his brother about, his brother in Rotary with me downtown but\nvery, the business is no longer in, but it was a very prominent Atlanta business\nthat probably had a lot of Jewish clienteles. Those were the two, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=3990.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the only two\ninstances out of five years at Grady.\n\nBAUMANN: Okay, now we've jumped up ahead. You were first at Smiilie, then you\nwent to Morningside.\n\nSUGARMAN: Right . . .\n\nBAUMANN: For a grade . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Now, I had Mary Lin in between there just for those few months at the,\nwhen we lived in Little Five Points.\n\nBAUMANN: You had moved . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: That was like fifth grade. The end of fifth grade and just a few weeks\nin the sixth grade before we moved to Morningside.\n\nBAUMANN: Yeah. Your family was actually moving with the Jewish community. Starts\noff near where the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4020.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta Fulton is . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Absolutely. Absolutely. [indistinct: 01:07:37; Talking over each other]\n\nBAUMANN: Yeah. Very interesting. Okay. Now your time at Morningside, the\nteachers, the influences, your favorite subjects.\n\nSUGARMAN: Can I talk about Joan Pels [sp] for a minute? She was my sweetheart in\nthat, in kindergarten. Talk about unrequited love. You ain't heard anything yet.\nShe never would have anything to do with ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4050.0,4080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me. Although I did get invited at\nSmiilie to her eighth birthday party, I think. We all went to the movies, the\nold Ponce de Leon Theater, and Richard Walker was my counterpart. He had the\nhots for her too and she sat between [us]. She didn't let me hold her hand, but\nthe bitch held, excuse me, held Richard Walker's hand too during the movie. Okay.\n\nBAUMANN: This was kindergarten?\n\nSUGARMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4080.0,4110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, this is already third grade. This is mature. This is a hot\neight-year-old. We wanted, so then I got unbelievably happy when I moved to\nMorningside. Who is at the desk in front of me? Joan Pels. My life was going to\nchange. It was Christmas this time of the year. I brought in mistletoe and held\nit over at the sixth grade and kissed her. She had her mother call my father [to\ntell him] I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4110.0,4140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was harassing her. Years later I ended up marrying her. Meaning she\nhad divorced her husband and then . . .\n\nBAUMANN: You performed the ceremony.\n\nSUGARMAN: Yeah, I didn't marry her. My kids always used to say, \"Daddy, you're\ngoing to do this, you marry someone. You're already married.\" I did her\nweddings, and we became good friends. You know, she had this complete, she was\nvery plain but sweet girl, but she had this complete ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4140.0,4170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"personality. metamorphosis\nand changed to this unbelievably, unbelievably attractive blond that moved to\nsomewhere, and she doesn't come to any of our reunions or anything. That was,\nMorningside was a wonderful experience. I got to be a school patrol guy. Did not\nget to go on the trips to Washington. It was probably a financial thing. I\nalways regretted that, but had great teachers, great principal there. I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4170.0,4200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remember\nstanding at the corner of Rock Springs and Johnson in North Holland, you know,\nmy little patrol belt on. And I was only there from like the eve of the end of\nthe fifth and probably the beginning of the sixth. I can't remember whether it\nwas the fifth or sixth, but it was very, very positive experience. I do remember\nit wasn't a specific, against me, but I remember the stuff going on with the\nintegration of Brown versus, Brown ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4200.0,4230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the schools were going to be integrated,\nof one of my classmates running down the hall hollering out, it's scary to me,\n\"The Klan [Ku Klux Klan] shall ride again!\" This same classmate ended up at\nGrady with me. At our 50th reunion he comes up and he said, \"Alvin, would you\nplease do my funeral when it's my time to come?\" The same guy that wanted the\nKlan to rise again. Well, I think that's a good thing. That's a sign that people\ncan grow and change. We're friends on Facebook now, you know, believe it or not.\n\nBAUMANN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4230.0,4260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. What were your favorite subjects?\n\nSUGARMAN: Still reading. My favorite teacher is Mr. Clark, and she was a\nbeautiful redhead, sixth grade teacher. Oh, and I was in, you remember that\nhorrible hotel fire in Jacksonville where the Jewish, the IT Cohen's children\nwere killed? It ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4260.0,4290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was . . . what's the bowl? The Gator Bowl game. It was a\nhorrible fire in the hotel on New Year's Eve and there were several Jewish\nfamilies from Atlanta involved and killed. One of them was Gail Orenstein. I\nthink it was Gail Cohen. That she married one to IT Cohen sons, and she was in\nthe seventh grade playing at a play, Thumbelina. I mean, every sixth-grade guy\nwas in love with this girl. She was so sweet. My favorite ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4290.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"subject there. It's\nbeen a long time. I mean, I can't. Nothing comes.\n\nBAUMANN: It's okay.\n\nSUGARMAN: It was probably whatever. If we had any kind of social studies or\nreading or . . .\n\nBAUMANN: Alright. Before we get to Grady. Well, alright , let's go to Grady and\nthen we'll go back into your extracurricular activities. What would they tell us\nabout Grady and your experience?\n\nSUGARMAN: My first elected office was, I think it might have been eighth grade\nwas ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4320.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Red Cross representative for the eighth grade, responsible for collecting\nthe money for the Red Cross. Most of my time at Grady from the 10th grade on I\nwas working. I mean, working at Thompson Boland-Lee my senior year. I worked\nevery day and went right after school every single day at Thompson Boland-Lee. I\ndidn't have much time for, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4350.0,4380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I did want a letter. Okay. I wasn't exactly Mr. Jock.\nOkay? To play on the football.\n\nBAUMANN: This is interesting because in the interview with Herbert Carp, you\nsaid you tried to get the letter, but you never got it. Go on.\n\nSUGARMAN: Right, right. I did. I didn't get the letter. Never got the letter. I\nknew I wasn't football material. I could even do the tumbling. I hated gym and\ntumbling. I just couldn't do those tumbling ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4380.0,4410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stuff. I went out. I may have been\nin the 10th grade, I don't know, for cheerleader. One day of \"Sis, boom rah rah\nsis boom . . .\" and that was it for me and cheerleading. I never got the letter.\nLooking back, might have been nice. Try the chess, you could get a letter in the\nchess club, but I never got my Grady letter. I always wanted that jacket with\nthe letter.\n\nBAUMANN: What about the teachers and the students and the courses?\n\nSUGARMAN: Yeah, it was great. I still quote, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4410.0,4440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my, she might have been eighth\ngrade or tenth grade. Civics teacher. Agnes Demoore [sp] was her name and,\nunless it was [Agnes] Demill. Now I remember it was Agnes. Agnes, now Culpepper.\nMaybe it was Culpeper. Boy it's a lot of years. Which must have been the 10th\ngrade, because we were close to getting old enough to get our driver's license.\nShe would preach to us and hammered into us and have hammered it into every\nteenager ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4440.0,4470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I know that's about to get their driver's license, is that when\nyou turn the key and now you push the button, but when you turn the key,\nignition key, it's as if you have your finger on the trigger of a high-powered\nrifle and it is a lethal instrument. She pounded that into us and that was a\nvery important thing. My English teacher, 10th grade English teacher, we just\ntalked about her at this reunion. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4470.0,4500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People got up and said they prayed that they\nwouldn't get her, would not get her for senior English, but she was the only\nreally college prep serious and she was wonderful. When I went to Emory, they\nasked our class, \"Who's from Atlanta? Did you go to Grady? Did you happen to\nhave Ms. Ray for your teacher?\" I think that is not an accidental happening\nthat, for the 10th grade. . . sorry. Our Senior year ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4500.0,4530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you could not graduate\nwithout passing senior English, obviously. In her class you had to give this\nten-minute talk, ten-minute talk in front of the class. I knew what I was going\nto talk about. Okay. I had not prepared a word. She called on me the second day.\nI said, \"This is it. I'll never graduate.\" It was a dark, dreary day. She said,\n\"Alvin, would you flip on the light switch? It's too dark in here.\" Somehow\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4530.0,4560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"those few seconds it takes to flip the light switch on. I got up to talk to the\nclass, [I] somehow regained my composure. It was supposed to be a very serious\ntalk about how I almost got fired from working at Thompson Boland-Lee. At the\nend of the summer, they would put on this huge sale. Those days, they sold shoes\nfor even $75, which was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4560.0,4590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like unheard of in those days. They got down to a dollar\na pair. Obviously, they were no selection of sizes. We made, I went into work at\n6:00 that morning and ran the stock first, set it up. The shoes were piled on a\ntable. We made a nickel for every pair we sold because it was a dollar, a dollar\nwith a 5 percent commission. I said, you know, get it shook up, five pair, at\nleast I can make a quarter. I pulled over one of the stools, stood on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4590.0,4620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"top on one\nof the fitting stools and started hollering out \"Five pair more. Who's got five\npair or more?\" Colonel Thompson of Thompson Boland-Lee was there. It was like,\nthey had police would let people in. That's how big a deal it was. This little\nlady had pulled on my shirt sleeve and. Said, \"Sonny, I only got four pairs. Is\nthat enough? I said, \"I'm sorry, ma'am, you have to have five pairs.\" The next\nthing I know, I get this, Colonel Thompson grab. The ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4620.0,4650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"vein in his neck, it's like\nthis. \"If I ever hear you say anything like that again. If it wasn't for Mr.\nDavis, who was the manager of the place, I would have thrown you not out of the\nfront door, I would have thrown you out of the back door!\" This was supposed to\nbe a serious talk. The minute I started talking, the class has rolling on the\nfloor. I just went with the humor of it. I sat down so relieved it was over\nwith. Still got knots thinking that. She turns to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4650.0,4680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the class, this is the way she\ntalked, \"Now class. Now you know what it means to prepare a talk. Isn't that\nright, Alvin?\" \"Yes, Miss Ray.\" I think that moment, that ridiculous moment of\nbeing able to stand on my own feet. Control that, get the composure back, no\nnotes, not a thing. Know what I wanted to say. It wasn't like I just picked a\ntopic, and I knew what I want was another factor, you know, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4680.0,4710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"building in what . . .\n\nBAUMANN: You also debated in morning homeroom. Did those things influence you in\nthe reverend and your ability to speak?\n\nSUGARMAN: [My say, I don't remember too much about the debate.\n\nBAUMANN: Again, that appeared in the Herbert Carp.\n\nSUGARMAN: Does it? Okay.\n\nBAUMANN: Okay. Okay. Let us come backward. I want to come forward against Grady\nand the nature of the student body and your association with the Jews from\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4710.0,4740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sherith Israel. To do that, what I want to go back to is your extracurricular\nactivities. You were deeply involved in Cub Scouts, then you became deeply\ninvolved in Boy Scouts.\n\nSUGARMAN: Right, right.\n\nBAUMANN: Right. Why don't you . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: The Boy Scout thing was the first time, other than [indistinct:\n01:19:18; Name] knew and maybe [indistinct: 01:19:21; Name], but mostly was\n[indistinct: 01:19:24; Name] back at the old social hall. 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Make us orthodox?\" So that gives you a\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4770.0,4800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"context for how, you know, what we went through.\n\nBAUMANN: Actually, that surprising because that's after Rothschild rabbinate.\n\nSUGARMAN: Right? I mean, he was still a senior rabbi.\n\nBAUMANN: . . . But it was still in . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Oh, no, we're still in. Yeah. I mean, you know, look, he wouldn't\nallow a huppah. Somebody calls me, like two days after he died\" and said, \"My\ndaughter's getting married in September. We want a huppah. Will you, do it?\" I\nsaid, \"I don't know if I'm going to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4800.0,4830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be here.\" I didn't know if I was going to be\nhere as a rabbi. I said, \" I will know, you know, what happens, and I'll make\nthe decision over the summer. That was a people expect that the whole chandelier\nto come down and I did do the wedding with the huppah. That was the first one.\nI'm sorry, I lost my train of you had asked me oh, about Grady and . . .\n\nBAUMANN: We're talking about the Boy Scouts. The Boy Scouts, the associations.\nNow, the Boy Scout ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4830.0,4860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"troop was headed by Asher Benator, and someone else is . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Joe Zimmerman, who became another lifelong friend when Zimmerman's men\nshot fired at Five Points on Peach Street\n\nBAUMANN: What I'm getting, alright. Here's something else. Would you tell me\nabout your experiences with the Boy Scouts?\n\nSUGARMAN: Oh, yeah. Started you saying that, saying it, saying it. 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We both get on our bikes and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4920.0,4950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ride down Johnson\nRoad to one of the streets in Morningside and work with GOPAC [Political\nActivism Committee]. It's true. He was the, he was a Cub Scout, and his mother\nwas a Democrat.\n\nBAUMANN: Yeah. You're also involved in AZA [Aleph Zadik Aleph] and BBYO.\n\nSUGARMAN: Right, right. That was, the AZA thing is, it was, Alan Salzman was our\nadvisor and he's the one that chose David and David and me to give that little,\neach give a little sermon at Sherith Israel. It was because of my involvement in\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4950.0,4980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AZA 134.\n\nBAUMANN: And BBYO?\n\nSUGARMAN: BBYO was, that was, yeah that's important.\n\nBAUMANN: Okay. Now the congregation under Marx's and towards until the very end\nwas anti-Zionist. Marx was . . . one of the founding members of the American\nCouncil for Judaism? How did you get involved in Zionism and Zionist\norganizations? Has it changed ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=4980.0,5010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that much under Jack Rothschild?\n\nSUGARMAN: It certainly had changed, major under Jack Rothschild. If you recall.\nI know you know this. I think it was 1950. He and Jack Rothschild and Harry\nEpstein co-led a federation. That was a major, major breakthrough. I know you're\naware of when we had the Southeast Zionist representative come speak at\nSisterhood. 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Now, but again, the question is, you . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: How did I get . . .\n\nBAUMANN: How did you get involved in Zionism?\n\nSUGARMAN: Probably those first Hebrew ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5040.0,5070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"folk songs from Israel that we sang at Boy\nScouts. Then . . . we were AZA because it was a social thing. I mean, I probably\ndidn't know Zionism from shamanism then. It was just fun because we could go to\nthe big girl's thing. I do remember my first, trying to think of when I first\nhad a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5070.0,5100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"visceral reaction about Israel. It probably wasn't until I was at HUC\nbecause the Six-Day War hit. At the end of my first year, I remember one of the\nprofessors running down the halls, hollering on to Damascus, \"Isaac, you've\nshown me a Sephardic Jew.\" It was, he was from Turkey, I think originally. It\nwas there and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5100.0,5130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we would do, in the summer, we would do outdoor services and . . .\n[indistinct: 01:25:40; Hebrew]. That's when I really became, open to. Because I\ncertainly didn't get it as a, it didn't take if it was here, I didn't take\nadvantage of it as a youngster.\n\nBAUMANN: I'm going in a circle to come to a point. You're involved in B'nai\nB'rith ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5130.0,5160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Youth, which mixes you with the East European community. You're involved\nwith Boy Scouts, which involves you with not only the East European community,\nwith the neighbor who is the Sephardic community.\n\nSUGARMAN: Oh, and Ned Coleman. Rabbi Cohen plays a major role in this.\n\nBAUMANN: Go ahead.\n\nSUGARMAN: Yeah, Leonard Cohen was one of my lifelines. He was in our wedding.\nOne of our lifelong closest . . .\n\nBAUMANN: Ned Cohen, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5160.0,5190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Joseph Cohen was the rabbi whose . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Ned's the son.\n\nBAUMANN: His son?\n\nSUGARMAN: His son. My first circle, other than the one we used to build on the\npulpit here, but my first meal in a circle was at his house. At dad's house, at\nRabbi Cohen's house. We became very close friends. I spoke at his funeral. Just\na fantastic human being and Ned, as was Ned and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5190.0,5220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ned's wife. Before he married\nher, was in youth group. She was from Monroe, Louisiana, was in youth group, the\nregion with my wife and we double dated. Our first date with Ned Coleman and he\nhad just gotten married to Lynn Marx's [sp], M-A-R-X, no relation again. Rabbi\nCohen, he was a very extremely positive ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5220.0,5250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"influence on my life from high school\nthrough, I don't know how Ned and I fruit, because we were a year apart, but we\nwere always very, very close friends.\n\nBAUMANN: Did you attend Or VeShalom?\n\nSUGARMAN: We went to Grady. No, I mean, we went to Grady together.\n\nBAUMANN: I mean, the influence of the rabbi . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: I'm sorry. Did I go to services or Or VeShalom?\n\nBAUMANN: Yeah.\n\nSUGARMAN: No, not until . . .\n\nBAUMANN: So, it was just the personal . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: It was just the personal and being and eating dinner ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5250.0,5280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at their house\nquite a bit and double date with Ned all the time. We'd fix each other. We had a\ngroup, Ned and I and Jonah and Barbara would meet every Sunday and dish out the\ngirls to see who would be on tap for the next week's social for . . .\n\nBAUMANN: We may have to censor this for Barbara.\n\nSUGARMAN: Definitely. she knows a lot of this well.\n\nBAUMANN: Okay. Bringing it all together, the way you describe Brady at the\nprevious interview was that it was a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5280.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"high, high percentage, perhaps 75 percent.\n\nSUGARMAN: That's right. Yeah. They almost closed down at the holidays that . . .\n\nBAUMANN: Yeah, even though they stayed open . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Right. Yeah. But you couldn't do any of, the teachers couldn't do anything.\n\nBAUMANN: The student body was largely, in terms of the Jews from Sherith Israel,\nbecause it was close to Sherith Israel. This is one of the ways you were closed\nwith David Geffen.\n\nSUGARMAN: I guess so. I do remember the boss coming over from AA and picking up\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5310.0,5340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all of the Hebrew kids, from AA. There was a significant AA population there. In\nfact, my memory is that I had much more contact with AA than I did with, with Or\nVeShalom. Maybe I didn't know the difference, but most of my friends were at AA\nthat I can remember.\n\nBAUMANN: Okay.\n\nSUGARMAN: Not many Temple people . . . I'm still trying to get to this question,\nbut before I do this is opening up other issues. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What was your relationship and\nknowledge of Harry Epstein?\n\nSUGARMAN: Oh, very much so . . . [indistinct: 01:29:36; Talking over each\nother]. Remember I told you about Aunt Rose? We met at a holiday service this\nyear. Second day AA with the rest of the family.\n\nBAUMANN: You were influenced by is Harry Epstein?\n\nSUGARMAN: That's right.\n\nBAUMANN: What about Tobias Geffen.\n\nSUGARMAN: Not so much. Because I really didn't, through David, but not directly.\n\nBAUMANN: Okay. Then tell me about your relationship at that stage with Harry Epstein.\n\nSUGARMAN: His ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5370.0,5400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was . . . I may have been in his mind the Marion rabbi. In my eyes\nhe was, was it Cantor Schwartzman? It was with him so many years. You know if\nhe'd miff one little note off key, he would, Harry would give him a look like\nnobody's business. It was a completely different, it was a fascinating thing to\nwatch the, what's the word I'm looking for, the tenure of the service of people\ngoing in and out ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5400.0,5430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"doing services at AA. Whereas in The Temple we were all good\nlittle Christians sitting here and we, I'm just joking. Don't you dare put that\nin. Because when I would go to, we always have our [indistinct: 01:30:44]\ndinners and Uncle Sam and Aunt Ida the lunch after services and the first words\nout of his mouth, \"Alvin how was services at the church?\" Because that's The\nTemple and even Aunt Ida had asked me when I came back here as a rabbi, \"Do you\nstill have a Christmas tree on the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5430.0,5460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pulpit?\" We never had a Christmas tree in the\nclub, but in her mind, we were that gorgeous, you know? That was, those were\nvery formative days. I was getting an interesting exposure over and above the\nClassical Reform Judaism. I was getting mainstream Conservative, at least\nsouthern conservative Judaism from AA. I mean, every holiday was second, second\nday [indistinct: 01:31:22] if I was there.\n\nBAUMANN: You know, Harry Epstein's brother was killed in a massacre. Harriet\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5460.0,5490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"attended yeshiva with his Uncle Ryan, at his uncle's broad yeshiva there. Harry\nwas an ardent Zionist, right?\n\nSUGARMAN: Absolutely. Absolutely.\n\nBAUMANN: That influenced you?\n\nSUGARMAN: May have without my even realizing through his sermons at the\nholidays. I can't, I cannot tell you the specific sermon that he said that I\nknew that I knew that back story. I knew that over the years when Riva and my\nAunt ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5490.0,5520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ida were very, very, very, very close friends you talk about all the time.\nWhen Riva died, I remember going on to the cemetery and shoveling the dirt. I\ngot a beautiful handwritten letter from Rabbi Epp's. You know how much it meant\nto him from not being there.\n\nBAUMANN: I was doing all of that as background for the next question I have. If\nyou look at the history of the congregation, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5520.0,5550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Temple and the other\ncongregations before World War Two, there was not a whole lot of interaction.\n\nSUGARMAN: Understatement.\n\nBAUMANN: Understatement. There was separation . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Remember [indistinct: 1:32:45; Talking over each other] remember the balance.\n\nBAUMANN: There was separation between the Standard Club versus the Progressive Club.\n\nSUGARMAN: They were horrible [indistinct: 01:32:52; Talking over each other].\nThe Kikes don't pay any attention to the Kyrgyz. I mean, it was a bad. It was\nbad blood. I mean, it was horrible. Yes. Embarrassing, but it . . .\n\nBAUMANN: . . . ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5550.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"relationship with your Uncle Sam and Ida is getting married . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: That's a classic example of . . .\n\nBAUMANN: . . . Did not mix across conservative orthodox reform. They did not mix\nof being Sephardic, quote unquote, German Jews. You seem to be in a very, very\ndifferent situation. It was like this transition in the 1950's, 1950's and\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5580.0,5610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1960's, where you were deeply involved in these other Jewish communities and\nwith these other Jews.\n\nSUGARMAN: I have a great story to tell you. The girl that I dated for over two\nyears was AA, okay? One of the first times I took her to lunch, this is classic\n. . .\n\nBAUMANN: Did she have a name?\n\nSUGARMAN: Did she have a name? Yeah. I ordered a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5610.0,5640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BLT. Okay. She said, \"Alvin,\nwhat are you doing?\" I mean, Barbara Knows her name was Dorothy Fields. Sweet,\nwonderful, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful girl. I said, \"I ordered a BLT\". \"You\ncan't eat any bacon.\" I said, \"What do you mean I can't eat any bacon?\" I didn't\nknow from bacon-smacon. She was having a fit because I was. This is really\nfunny. My wife dies of this. When I was on the road, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5640.0,5670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wouldn't order any toast\nduring Passover. We, but I'd say double the grits. I mean, that was growing up\nat the time or whatnot. No. I mean, I was a Southern Reform classical Jew that\ndidn't know any better. I did have this unique thing because of Aunt Ida in\nUncle Sam and Aunt Rose. Not only kept a membership here, but she joined AA when\nUncle Sam married Arnold, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5670.0,5700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so she had, so she could go to the holidays.\n\nBAUMANN: These things were like a transition in the Jewish . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Right, right, right.\n\nBAUMANN: You were a Miriam with Asher Benator with the [indistinct: 01:35:09]\nrole. You're associated with the rabbi . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Was it Asher or Josiah?\n\nBAUMANN: Asher, I believe, was the scoutmaster there.\n\nSUGARMAN: Okay, I double check that because at Josiah . . .\n\nBAUMANN: I'm Just going back from the previously . . .\n\nSUGARMAN: Okay. 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I didn't mingle with that crowd other\nthan when I saw him on Sunday mornings or at Temple ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5790.0,5820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Teens or something. I think\nit had a very positive influence so that I was able to even subconsciously,\nwithout even thinking about, understand that we are essentially one Jewish\ncommunity, even though we have these labels that at that time tended to . . .\n\nBAUMANN: Say, let's quickly jump up. You become deeply involved in the\nRabbinical Association of Atlanta.\n\nSUGARMAN: Right.\n\nBAUMANN: You get deeply involved in some controversy, including the rabbi at\nHaverim who was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5820.0,5850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gay. How do you think, or do you think these early influences\ninfluence your involvement in the Rabbinical Association and with conflicts like that?\n\nSUGARMAN: I've got to say that the most influential rabbi in my life, of course,\nwas Jack Rothschild and the guts that he had in 1946 when he got on the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5850.0,5880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pulpit.\n[He] said, talked about his days as a chaplain and visiting people, the wounded\nAmerican soldiers and a black soldier and a white soldier and saying that the\nblood was the same color red. It may not sound like a big deal today, but in\n1946. When you pronounce the word N-E-G-R-O as negro instead of the N-word, that\nwas a major effect. If ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5880.0,5910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you pronounce the word N-EG-R-O, if you pronounce the\nword correctly, you were called a blank-lover. His courage and his embrace of\nthose different from us. It was a major, major, major, major role in my\nunderstanding [of] what Reform Judaism was all about, what Judaism was all\nabout, but also his emphasis on Prophetic Judaism ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5910.0,5940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/transcript/40804/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as opposed to Halachic Judaism\nhas colored my entire cabinet and we're actually running out of time here. I\nguess, I hope we'll have another session if it's okay with you.\n\nBAUMANN: One more, yes.\n\nSUGARMAN: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=5940.0,5970.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Sugarman, Alvin [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eDr. Mark Keith Bauman (b. 1946) is a scholar of Southern Jewish history. A native of New York City, he was educated at Wilkes College, Lehigh University, the University of Chicago, and Emory University. He served for many years as a professor of history at Atlanta Metropolitan College, and has published a number of books on Southern Jewish History as well as Methodist Bishop Warren A. Candler.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRabbi Alvin M. Sugarman (b. 1938) is the Rabbi Emeritus of the Temple in Atlanta and currently serves with life tenure. He began his rabbinate at the Temple in 1971 and in 1974 was named senior rabbi. A native of Atlanta, Rabbi Sugarman's family were members of the Temple, where he was also confirmed. He received his BBA from Emory University and was ordained by Hebrew Union College. In 1988 he received his PhD in Theological Studies from Emory University.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Temple, or “Hebrew Benevolent Congregation,” is Atlanta’s oldest Jewish congregation. The cornerstone was laid on the Temple on Garnett Street in 1875. The dedication was held in 1877 and the Temple was located there until 1902. The Temple’s next location on Pryor Street was dedicated in 1902. The Temple’s current location in Midtown on Peachtree Street was dedicated in 1931. The main sanctuary is on the National Register of Historic Places. The Reform congregation now totals approximately 1500 families. As of 2022, its Senior Rabbi is Peter S. Berg.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRabbi David Geffen (1938-) was ordained at Jewish Theological Seminary rabbinical school in 1965. Geffen immigrated to Israel in 1977 with his family. He writes for The Jerusalem Post, having published more than 350 articles and book reviews and another 75 in the World Zionist Press Service. He also authored the American Heritage Haggadah in 1992. Geffen returned to the US in 1993 to serve as rabbi of the Temple Israel congregation in Scranton, Pennsylvania, a position he held until 2003. David Geffen is the grandson of Tobias Geffen who was the rabbi of Congregation Shearith Israel in Atlanta, Georgia from 1910 to 1970.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eDr. Herbert Rubin Karp (1922-2016), a native of Atlanta, was a prominent neurologist and chair of Emory University's Department of Neurology. In 1983, Dr. Karp became the inaugural medical director at the Wesley Woods Center, the nation's first geriatric hospital. He was president of the Ahavath Achim Synagogue where, for over three decades, he sounded the shofar during the High Holy Days services.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBudapest is the capital of Hungary, which is a country located in Central Europe.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBavaria is a German state located south-east of the Central European country, Germany. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThompson Boland-Lee was a shoe store located in Atlanta, Georgi at Lennox. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eEmory University is a private research university in Atlanta, Georgia founded in 1936.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eOrthodox Judaism is a traditional branch of Judaism that strictly follows the written Torah and the oral law concerning prayer, dress, food, sex, family relations, social behavior, the Sabbath day, holidays, and more.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThis was a mass civil disturbance in Atlanta, Georgia that began the evening of September 22 and lasted until September 26, 1906. An estimated 25 to 40 African Americans were murdered and scores more were wounded. Considerable property damage was also done. On September 22, 1906 Atlanta newspapers reported four alleged assaults on local white women by Black men in lurid detail. Soon, some 10,000 white men and boys began gathering on Decatur Street in the Five Points area downtown. While the newspaper story was the catalyst, the deeper causes lay in increasing racial tensions between Blacks and whites, Jim Crow segregation, and Reconstruction politics. Attempts to calm the mob failed and it turned violent to people and property. The militia was summoned and streetcar service suspended in an attempt to drive the rioters from the streets. There was even a gun battle between the militias and armed Black men. It took four days for the riot to be brought under control. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Jewish Educational Alliance (JEA) operated from 1910 to 1948 on the site where the Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium was later located. The JEA was once the hub of Jewish life in Atlanta. Families congregated there for social, educational, sports and cultural programs. The JEA ran camps and held classes to help some new residents learn to read and write English. For newcomers, it became a refuge, with programs to help them acclimate to a new home. The JEA stayed at that site until the late 1940s, when it evolved into the Atlanta Jewish Community Center and moved to Peachtree Street. It stayed there until 1998, when the building was sold and the center moved to Dunwoody. In 2000, it was renamed the “Marcus Jewish Community Center of Atlanta.”\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe National Council of Jewish Women is an organization of volunteers and advocates, founded in the 1890s, who turn progressive ideals in advocacy and philanthropy inspired by Jewish values. 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While the Torah remains the law, in Reform Judaism women are included (mixed seating, bat mitzvah, and women rabbis), instrumental music is allowed in the services, and most of the service is in the local language as opposed to Hebrew.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/83972/file/172478/annotation_set/937/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAhavath Achim Synagogue (often referred to as \"AA\") was founded as an Orthodox congregation in 1887 in a small room on Gilmer Street. In 1901 they moved to a permanent building at the corner of Piedmont Avenue and Gilmer Street. In 1921, the congregation constructed a synagogue at Washington Street and Woodward Avenue. It joined the Conservative movement in 1952. 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Okay? 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