{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/vx05x26c2k/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Romm, Mendel, Jr. (2005-06)"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2005-09-27 (creation)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source"]},"value":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum Esther and Herbert Taylor Oral History Collection Savannah Jewish Archives"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMendel Romm, Jr. was born in Atlanta on January 11, 1929 to parents Mendel Romm, Sr. and Esther “Tootsie” Goldman Romm. He had one older brother, Charles Alfred Romm, who died at the age of nine, when Mendel was just six years old.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eMendel’s family lived in the Virginia-Highland area of Atlanta, on St. Charles Avenue. During his childhood, and The Depression, their home was filled with boarders and extended family. The Romms were members at several synagogues, but primarily attended Ahavath Achim (AA) and The Temple. Mendel attended Highland Avenue Grammar School, William A. Bass Junior High School, and Boys High School. He was very active in both the Boy Scouts and Aleph Zadik Aleph (AZA) as a young boy and teenager. After graduation, he attended the University of Georgia in Athens, where he was an excellent student and active in multiple organizations including Hillel and Tau Epsolon Pi (TEP) fraternity.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAfter college, Mendel served as an officer in the United States armed services during the Korean War. Following the war, he worked with his father, Mendel Romm, Sr. in the insurance business and later worked in real estate and as an entrepreneur. He became a Freemason and Shriner, like his father, and was very active in social organizations and events in the Jewish community. Mendel and his wife, Anta Pitlick Romm, married in 1954; they had four children, Lisa, Tracy, Amy, and Chip. Mendel was a devoted member of the Temple and served as a long-time member of its burial society. He served on the United Jewish Appeal, and volunteered at Oakland Cemetery and the Breman Jewish Heritage Museum in Atlanta.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eMendel Romm and his family were an integral part of the Jewish community in Atlanta for many years. His genealogical research, oral history interviews, and vast knowledge of the region provide a valuable look into the city’s past. Mendel passed away on November 18, 2013.\u003c/p\u003e (general)","\u003cp\u003eMendel shares numerous stories and insights into Atlanta history over the past decades. He recalls growing up in the Virginia Highlands area and his friendships with children who, like himself, would grow up to become central to the Jewish community as adults. He shares his encounters with antisemitism, his relationship to his faith, and the trauma of his brother’s death at a young age. He describes his experiences at the University of Georgia and his time in the military during the Korean War. He shares stories of his relationship with his father—an active member in numerous organizations and a community leader—his mother, his extended family, his wife, Anta and their four children. Throughout the interview, Mendel provides anecdotes, background, and history about generations of movers and shakers in Atlanta’s vibrant Jewish community. An earlier interview with Mendel Romm from 2003 is also available in the Esther and Herbert Taylor Oral History Collection.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28613"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Romm, Mendel, Jr., 1929-2013 (personal name)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMendel Romm, Jr. was born in Atlanta on January 11, 1929 to parents Mendel Romm, Sr. and Esther “Tootsie” Goldman Romm. He had one older brother, Charles Alfred Romm, who died at the age of nine, when Mendel was just six years old.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eMendel’s family lived in the Virginia-Highland area of Atlanta, on St. Charles Avenue. During his childhood, and The Depression, their home was filled with boarders and extended family. The Romms were members at several synagogues, but primarily attended Ahavath Achim (AA) and The Temple. Mendel attended Highland Avenue Grammar School, William A. Bass Junior High School, and Boys High School. He was very active in both the Boy Scouts and Aleph Zadik Aleph (AZA) as a young boy and teenager. After graduation, he attended the University of Georgia in Athens, where he was an excellent student and active in multiple organizations including Hillel and Tau Epsolon Pi (TEP) fraternity.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAfter college, Mendel served as an officer in the United States armed services during the Korean War. Following the war, he worked with his father, Mendel Romm, Sr. in the insurance business and later worked in real estate and as an entrepreneur. He became a Freemason and Shriner, like his father, and was very active in social organizations and events in the Jewish community. Mendel and his wife, Anta Pitlick Romm, married in 1954; they had four children, Lisa, Tracy, Amy, and Chip. Mendel was a devoted member of the Temple and served as a long-time member of its burial society. He served on the United Jewish Appeal, and volunteered at Oakland Cemetery and the Breman Jewish Heritage Museum in Atlanta.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eMendel Romm and his family were an integral part of the Jewish community in Atlanta for many years. His genealogical research, oral history interviews, and vast knowledge of the region provide a valuable look into the city’s past. Mendel passed away on November 18, 2013.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eMendel shares numerous stories and insights into Atlanta history over the past decades. He recalls growing up in the Virginia Highlands area and his friendships with children who, like himself, would grow up to become central to the Jewish community as adults. He shares his encounters with antisemitism, his relationship to his faith, and the trauma of his brother’s death at a young age. He describes his experiences at the University of Georgia and his time in the military during the Korean War. He shares stories of his relationship with his father—an active member in numerous organizations and a community leader—his mother, his extended family, his wife, Anta and their four children. Throughout the interview, Mendel provides anecdotes, background, and history about generations of movers and shakers in Atlanta’s vibrant Jewish community. An earlier interview with Mendel Romm from 2003 is also available in the Esther and Herbert Taylor Oral History Collection.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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It is September 27,\n2005. Thank you, Mendel, I really appreciate it.\n\nROMM: Thank you. I appreciate it more than you know.\n\nBERMAN: I'd like to begin by just having you go back in time and talk a little\nbit about your parents, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your grandparents, your ancestors, who they were, and\nhow you ended up in Georgia.\n\nROMM: That's very interesting, because I was getting ready to tell you that\npeople always say, \"Where were your folks born?\" And when I tell them my dad was\nborn in Atlanta [Georgia] and my mother was born in Birmingham [Alabama], then\n\"Well, where'd their folks come from?\" and I've learned that my father's family\ncame from Cold Creek, Tennessee, but they ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"don't ask me where they come from\nbefore Cold Creek, Tennessee. And I'm going to have to get the exact date as to\nwhen they got to Tennessee. But, Tennessee had a lot to do with that part of my\nfamily. My mother's family claim they were the first white settlers in the\nBirmingham, Alabama area. But, they came from Kobrin [Belarus] and there are a\nlot of people in this area from Kobrin. And the reason for it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is, Sam Gershon\nwent back and brought people over, every year or so. And he'd go around to all\nthese little towns he'd put them in and raise money to go bring so more of their\nlandsmen over here to Alabama and Georgia. So, there's a lot of cousins\nintermarried--or distant, I should say distant cousins--and it's very\ninteresting. And I'm very proud of my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"daddy's Romm family and my I'm learning\nmore about them. My grandfather died when my dad was four years old, in 1899\nhere in Atlanta, and he's buried out at Oakland [Cemetery].\n\nBERMAN: And his name was . . .\n\nROMM: His name was Michael Romm. He had three children, the oldest being Lena\nRomm who never married, Solomon (Sol) Romm who married Rosalee Mendel and had\nthree children, Marilyn ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ehrlich, Milton Romm, and Betty Ann Jacobson. And then\nmy dad, and my dad had two children . . .\n\nBERMAN: And your dad's name?\n\nROMM: My dad's name was Mendel [Romm, Sr.]. And I learned why his name is Mendel\nand my Uncle Sol's name wasn't Mendel--it's very interesting--and why he named\nme Junior. He was born here in Atlanta in 1895 and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he was basically orphaned\nwhen he was four years old. And I decided, I'll find out some more--I'm studying\nit--that instead of trying to help their widowed daughter, my dad's grandparents\narranged a marriage for her, with an immigrant by the name of Minsk. And my Aunt\nLena, being eight at the time, her father died ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and (she) grew up very fast. She\ndidn't like Mr. Minsk. Of course, they went ahead and had four children and we\nthink--we don't know, no one's ever said it--they always resented the Romm\nconnection. Probably because of my Aunt Lena. And my Aunt Lena pushed my\ngrandmother to divorce Mr. Minsk, which was an unheard-of thing, and left my\ngrandmother with seven little ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"children. Mr. Minsk went to Albany, Georgia and\nstarted a new family and became very successful down there.\n\nBERMAN: Do you know what his first name was?\n\nROMM: I have no idea. [Isaac Minsk] I know that part of my daddy's family, the\noldest one being Estelle Unger, with Atlanta connections. Other than that, she\nmarried an accountant from New York. They moved here and then moved to Florida\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and one son is married to Ted Frankel's sister. All these people inter-relate.\nTed Frankel's father was one of my dad's boyhood friends, belonged to the \"Don't\nWorry Club\" and I'll get into that later on. I'd like to stick with where they\ncame from and why. I found out that the Romms came from a town called Kreisdan,\nK-R-E-I-S-D-A-N which is near ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vilna (Vilnius) [Lithuania]. I always thought that\nthey were from Vilna, that's what they told me when I was a kid. And this man\ncalled me, trying to track the Romm family, because his grandmother was a Romm\nand his mother wanted to know something about the Romms. It's very interesting\nabout the Romms, they were in every major capital in Europe, and in Philadelphia\nand New York here. They were in the paper business and we always thought it was\nbecause there was a widow Romm and sons who were book ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"publishers in Vilna. And\nthis man told me last year, \"Oh no, your family was more important than they\nwere.\" But, I couldn't understand why they all went out, went to Warsaw, went to\nMoscow, went to Berlin, went to Brussels, went to England, came to Philadelphia\nand New York. Why did they go to these places and go in the paper business?\nNever understood. Because I thought it was like the Rothschilds, and instead of\nbeing in money, we were in paper for the printing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"company. It was very\ninteresting, my father's grandfather died the year before my daddy was born. In\nbetween the time when my Uncle Sol was born and my dad was born. So, my dad got\nhis grandfather's name, Mendel. And I became a Junior because my daddy said, he\ndidn't believe in the old custom of not naming after the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"living. That he would\nnever do anything that would change anything about what people thought of me,\nthat would make me a better person. Of course, now that I'm involved in Sephardi\nsegment of our community, I find out they name their children after living\npeople. And my grandson James Arogeti is named for his grandfather James\nArogeti. It's really interesting, going back and finding out how and why, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what\nthey did in Atlanta, how they, what formed my life. My Aunt Lena--I'm going to\nstay in my daddy's era--never married. She was the first public stenographer in\nthe city of Atlanta. By the time she was 15 or 16, she had an office in the\nCandler Building as a stenographer. And she worked for some Jewish charitable\norganization going around, trying to find Jewish ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"orphans. She was a very nice\nlooking lady, blonde, and she went up to North Georgia, some little town,\nlooking for some children. And the people at the hotel there said--and she was\nfrom the Jewish organization--\"You can't be a Jew, you're a blonde, and you\ndon't have horns.\" That's the type thing, this is back in the early 1900s. My\ndad, by the time he was 11 years old--which would be 1906--he'd already\nwitnessed a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"race riot in 1905.\n\nBERMAN: Tell me, let's talk about the race riot and what some of his\nrecollections were.\n\nROMM: Well, I'm getting to it. My dad had to go out and make a living to help\nsupport not only his older brother and older sister, but his four half-siblings,\nand their mother. So, he had a newspaper route, that's what ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"most kids had, and\nhe was picking his papers up on a Saturday night, from the Atlanta Journal and\nConstitution --it wasn't called that yet, it was separate papers--and had them\nin his bag and he had to walk back from the newspaper to Five Points to catch a\nstreetcar back down to Capital Avenue where they lived. He got to Five Points\nand he saw this crowd of people and they were grabbing Black people ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"off of the\nstreetcars and hanging them on light posts. And, of course, someone asked me\nwhat my dad's reaction was, and I said, \"He was scared as hell, he ran all the\nway home.\" The next morning, he went to deliver his papers--Sunday morning--and\nusually in the black communities, the people were all out in their best clothes,\nready to go to church. There wasn't a soul on the streets, it was like a\ndeserted town. It really scared him and he didn't know what to do. He knocked ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on\nthe first door, and they said, \"Who's there?\" and he said, \"Newsboy.\" They said,\n\"Slip the paper under the door,\" and they slipped the money out for the weekly\npaper. It was the same way all up and down the street. It made a big impression\non him. And he told me, they didn't tell the complete story, there were more\npeople murdered than the newspaper reported. They didn't want Atlanta to get a\nbad name. But, my dad, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by the time he was 16, he had four jobs. He still had his\npaper route, he was the mail clerk for the Central of Georgia Railroad, and I\nthought, golly, that must be a fulltime [job]. It consisted of picking up the\nmail from the Nancy Hanks--which was the train that ran from Savannah [Georgia]\nto Atlanta--he picked it up in the mornings, took it to the railroad office and\nin the afternoons, he carried the mail back to the Nancy Hanks, going back to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Savannah. And he had a job as an office boy for a law firm, one of the prominent\nlaw firms, and he was the mail clerk for the USF\u0026G , United States Fidelity and\nGuaranty Company. He started there when he was 11, he went to work for them\nfulltime, going to school at night, and graduated Georgia Tech in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1918. [He was]\none of the early college graduates in the Jewish community, here in Atlanta. A\nlot of them went off to other places to school, but very few of them stayed here\nat home. By the time he was 21, he was the chief underwriter for the United\nStates Fidelity and Guaranty Company for the whole southeast; they were a big\nbond company. It always amazed me, my dad knew every . . . there are 159\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"counties, I believe it is, in Georgia, 159-169, whatever it is, and he knew\nevery county seat and he knew every clerk of the court. I thought it was\namazing. He met all kinds of people in the insurance business and some of them\nsaid, \"Come on, let's go into the, you're never going to make any money at the\nUSF\u0026G, come on and open up an agency.\" So, he went into business with a Mr.\nLazear, Joe Lazear, --who was a very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"prominent man here in town and must have\nbeen about my dad's age--and a Schmalheiser, who was from Savannah. It was\nLazear, Schmalheiser, and Romm and Mr. Schmalheiser moved to California because\nhis brother Ed Small, was the founder of Columbia Pictures. They changed their\nname from Schmalheiser to Small. And Joe Lazear and my dad stayed in the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=720.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"insurance business and then it was a difference of philosophies. My dad was the\nstraightest man that ever lived, he would not fudge a millimeter of an inch.\nInsurance companies liked him because he underwrote the people he did business\nwith. If it was a man that he didn't think was honorable, he wouldn't write\ntheir insurance. 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Smith--and Mr. Smith would go to Baltimore [Maryland],\nwhere they were headquartered, and he'd come back with how the world was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=780.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"doing,\nwhat the company was doing, and everything else. In the 1920s, [he said] \"Gotta\nkeep buying stock, gotta buy stock,\" and Daddy said, \"This can't keep going on.\"\nSo, he sold all of his stocks and put all of his money into government bonds,\nand he was a very wealthy man. He didn't get married until he was 29, until he\nthought he could afford to raise a family. He went to Birmingham [Alabama] and\nhe . . . how he met my mother, I don't know, I never did find that out. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Met this\ngirl in Birmingham who was 25 and they got married in Birmingham at probably the\nbiggest wedding they'd ever seen there . . .\n\nBERMAN: And her name . . .\n\nROMM: Her name was Tootsie, Tootsie Goldman. Everybody said, \"Your name couldn't\nhave been Tootsie, oh that isn't . . .\" [and she would say] \"My birth\ncertificate says Tootsie, my Social Security card says Tootsie, everything I do\nis Tootsie.\" I finally found out the truth. Her daddy [Charles Harris Goldman]\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=840.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had called her Tootsie. He died when she was six years old, well, really, she\nwasn't quite six, she was a few months shy of being six. And she decided she was\ngoing to be Tootsie from then on. And the courthouse burned down in\nBirmingham--Jefferson County courthouse--and later on, she went back and got\nthem to give her copies of her birth certificate, but changed the name and had\nthe name shown as being Tootsie. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, her name Esther was a beautiful name, I\ndon't know why she didn't care for it. But as prominent as my dad was in\nbusiness, it was even more so in civic things. He was president of the\nProgressive Club before he was 30 years old, the Progressive Club being a social\nclub in Atlanta. He was president and one of the founders of the Mayfair Club in\nthe early 1930s. He was president of B'nai ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"B'rith, the Gate City Lodge of B'nai\nB'rith, and he was the state president of B'nai B'rith, very involved in\nnational B'nai B'rith affairs. He was one of the early members of the ADL , and\nhis best friend--mentor, really, more than that, a very close friend--was Julian\nBoehm, who was one of the founders of ADL. 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And they\nformed a club called the Don't Worry Club, and I don't know how many people were\nin it, I would ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"guess thirty to forty young men, teenagers.\n\nBERMAN: Do you know what year that was?\n\nROMM: I'm trying to figure it out. They had to be in their early teens, is my\nguess, because Mark Taylor and I wanted to give a 75th party for them--a\nlunch--and there were only three left. One was Herbert Taylor--Mark's dad--one\nwas A.L. 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I\nthink I could find that out, we've got pretty good files ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the Don't Worry\nClub. And these people belonged to it, Mandle Zaban, Sam Eplan, the names . . .\n\nBERMAN: Do you know what the club did?\n\nROMM: Yes, they were a social club, they ran around together.\n\nBERMAN: I think they debated.\n\nROMM: I don't know, that was probably one of the activities, they weren't just\nwild youngsters. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They did go to Savannah and there was a club down there that\nmay have named themselves the same thing, and they would have joint affairs.\nThey'd come to Atlanta, they'd go to Savannah. And these people became friends\nall their lives, it's really a fabulous thing. And my mother, growing up, she\nhad an older sister. She was second, she always claimed she was third, but she\nwas second. Her ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"oldest sister Dot, was born--I'm making a guess--about 1897, and\nDot met a soldier during the First World War. They came towards Alabama and\nGeorgia to train, and she met a man, Ben Kahn, who was a third or fourth\ngeneration American. His folks were in the fur business in New York. Then her\nnext sister, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sophie, who claimed her mental problems were because they wanted a\nboy and she was a girl. Sophie married a man named Leon Reed, from Roxboro,\nMassachusetts, I guess that's the place he's from. He also had come to\nBirmingham or down south to be in the Army. Then, they had a brother, Julius\nGoldman--J. L. Goldman--and then a younger ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sister, Sylvia. There were five of\nthem. My grandmother [Elizabeth Weinstein Goldman] became a widow with three\nbabies and two little girls. She opened up a boarding house and she wanted me to\nalways know it was not a rooming house, it was a boarding house. 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The boys could come to see my mother while she was milking the cow and she\nwouldn't pay attention to what she was doing, the cows would knock the milk\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"over, and Mr. Holzer used to give her cans of milk to take home so her mother\nwouldn't be upset with her. But my mother was the kind of person, she worked\nfrom day one, we called her \"Powerful Katrinka,\" there was nothing she couldn't\nlift to do. And she told stories, they would drive in their touring car to North\nCarolina--the Kartuses moved to Asheville, North Carolina--and they would drive\nfrom Birmingham to Asheville--nothing but dirt roads--and have a lot of flat\ntires. My mother would have to change the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"flat tires. They didn't have a jack,\nthey claim my mother lifted the car (laughs) and changed the tires. As a young\ngirl, Mother went to work for Pizitz, which is a department store in Birmingham,\nsimilar to Rich's here. And by the time she was 17 or 18, she was a head\ncashier. Mr. Pizitiz . . .\n\nBERMAN: How do you spell that?\n\nROMM: P-I-Z-I-T-Z. I think it's still in business in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Birmingham, and they\nexpanded and my mother's uncle, Abe Weinstein--and I didn't go, if I get to it\nand go over who my grandmother's people were in Birmingham--he had the handbag\nand costume jewelry business at Pizitz. And when the old man died, he put in his\nwill that Abe Weinstein would have those forever. 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My uncle was very close to the son and my whole\nfamily was very close to the daughter, who was a Smolen, and my uncle, Abe\nWeinstein, got very friendly with Mrs. Pizitz--the younger Mrs. Pizitz--and left\nall ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1350.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that to her sons, whatever his part was. He was an interesting man, all\nthose Weinsteins were interesting people. Abe was an alumni--now this is a man\nwho didn't go to school, I believe--he was an alumni of University of Alabama\nand a big supporter. And when they started questioning him, \"When did you\ngraduate and where are your records?\" he said, \"Sherman burned the records.\"\n(laughs) I don't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think Sherman went to Alabama, but that satisfied them. He was\nvery friendly with all the coaches, Bear Bryant, and the baseball people. He\nwould come to Atlanta for the baseball games with the business manager. And, I'm\nnot very proud of it, but one of his closest friends was Bull Conner, who was\nthe man who used firehoses and dogs on Civil Rights ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people. One of my great\naunts, married a druggist whose family was a sixth-generation American. How he\ngot to meet this girl in Birmingham and move. They had four wonderful children\nand they lived in a three-bedroom, one-bath house in Birmingham, and none of the\nchildren ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ever married, and none of the children ever left the house. They grew\nup and lived there, which I always thought was very interesting. Very nice\npeople (chuckles). My grandmother was a super person. she was a founder of\nTemple Beth-El in Birmingham. She was a chairman, the head of the Chevra Kadisha\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"--did I pronounce it right . . .\n\nBERMAN: Chevra Kadisha.\n\nROMM: (smiles) OK.\n\nBERMAN: State her name again, your grandmother.\n\nROMM: Elizabeth Weinstein Goldman. Oh, and my grandfather [Charles Harris\nGoldman] left her a men's clothing store called The Toggery Shop in Birmingham,\nwhich she ran as an absentee owner while she was running her boarding house.\nWhen my Uncle Sonny became ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"16, he took it over and it didn't take him but a few\nyears to ruin it. (smiles) My grandmother said, \"He gave credit to all his\nfriends.\" (laughs). He married a Sokol in Birmingham, the Sokols are an old\nBirmingham family, but my grandmother didn't approve of it. He didn't marry\nHelen for a long time, they dated for about fifteen years. The reason my\ngrandmother wouldn't approve it, the Sokols were members of the Arbeiter Ring\n[Der Arbeiter Ring]. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Having studied oral histories here in Atlanta, I see how\nmany people that are really nice, just like the Sokols, who are either members\nof the Workman's [Workers] Circle or the Arbiter Ring. They were socialists, and\nin some instances, communists. Now, I don't think the Sokols were out and out\ncommunists, but they were socialists. And there was a difference between if they\nwere religious and socialists, or if they were just socialists. When my Uncle\nSonny ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"finally got permission to marry Helen, my grandmother was living here in\nAtlanta with us, and that's a great story in itself. She followed my father's\nmother [Bertha Greenblatt Romm] here to our house, and we only had a\ntwo-bedroom, one-bath house in which my older brother and I and my mother and\nfather lived in. When the Depression came, my grandmother, my Aunt Lena, and all\nof the Minsk ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"children moved into the house with us. Of course, my daddy was the\nbread-winner for everybody. And my Uncle Sol, who was a wonderful person,\nmarried to Rosalee Mendel, whose father was H. Mendel . . .\n\nBERMAN: And that stands for Hyman?\n\nROMM: Yes, I think it was Hyman. We always called him H. Mendel, I think it was\nHyman Mendel. Aunt Rosalee was a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"social-climber, and I'll say this to Betty Ann\n[Jacobson] if she were here (smiling) or anything else. They were early members\nof the Standard Club, where some of these people said, \"No Russian Jews, no\nEastern European Jews belong to the Standard Club. We were all German Jews.\" I\nknow for a fact that that wasn't so. My dad and my Uncle Sol bought a duplex\ntogether on St. Charles [Avenue], that's where I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"lived with all these people in\nthe two-bedroom one-bath place (chuckles). It wasn't good enough for Aunt\nRosalee. St. Charles was already moving towards Druid Hills. They had to move to\nFairview Road in Druid Hills, and my dad took over the house. I'm really\nrambling on this, I hope you don't mind.\n\nBERMAN: No, no, go ahead.\n\nROMM: Rosalee, to make up for leaving them holding the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bag, got the Eli Josephs\nfamily and Eli Josephs was Mrs. Simon Mendel's mother and father. Her brother\nAlvin Josephs moved in and it was just the two children. Of course, the older\none had moved, married and moved, Simon. Alvin went to medical school while he\nlived with us on St. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles. And Mr. Josephs ran the manufacturing division for\nH. Mendel and Company. I mean, it's all family, they were all very close. And\nthey moved, and the reason I want to bring in this part of it, the next tenant\nwe had was William Breman. (smiles) When they moved back to Atlanta from North\nCarolina, that's the place where Carol Nemo and Jimmy, is it Jim . . .\n\nBERMAN: Jim.\n\nROMM: . . . Jim. 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He and his wife\nGerry, she was Geraldine Cohen from down in South Georgia, they'd met at\n[University of] ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgia. And Al Garber had come from the Hebrew Orphan's Home,\nand became a very, very big success. [He] really became my mentor and was\nresponsible for where I went to college, because my dad graduated from Georgia\nTech, didn't want me to go to Tech, but he wanted me to go to Wharton School of\nBusiness. And in 1946, when I went off to college, it was very hard to get into\na college, and a cousin of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his in Philadelphia [Pennsylvania] got me in. Then\nGarber said, \"No, you need to go to Georgia because you're going to be in the\ninsurance business in Atlanta, and you'll meet all these people you'll do\nbusiness with all over the state.\" And that sounded pretty good to me (laughs),\nso I went to Georgia instead of Wharton. But my dad was very disappointed that I\ndidn't do that.\n\nBERMAN: Could we just backtrack for one second, and you were talking all about\nthe club and your family belonged to the Progressive Club, but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rosalee, the\nMendels . . .\n\nROMM: The Sol Romms belonged to the Progressive Club, the Mayfair Club and the\nStandard Club, but they . . .\n\nBERMAN: Tell me about all the clubs and what went on at them.\n\nROMM: Well, the way I see it--and I was too small a child to know--the Jewish\nProgressive Club would change its name to just The Progressive Club. It took the\nplace of a YMHA. They had YMHAs in Birmingham, in Jacksonville [Florida], had\nthem all over the South, but not here in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta. And the Progressive Club\nbecame the place where people played handball and basketball and had a swimming\npool, and a social place, and it became that place. And I love the fact that\npeople keep talking--and it's very good--we could talk for hours, maybe three\nquarters of a century (smiles). People used to tell and talk about, and I read\nthese oral histories, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"The German Jews had very little to do with Eastern\nEuropean Jews.\" One of my best friends is Lyons Joel. Lyons Joel's grandfather\nwas Mr. Selig from the Selig Chemical company, Simon Selig. I heard from my\ndaddy that Mr. Selig used to play pinochle at the Progressive Club. 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And this went on for, oh,\nI guess at least six or eight years, and they decided they needed a clubhouse.\nOne of the reasons they needed a clubhouse was that Mr. Asa Candler had a place\non Briarcliff Road, built a swimming ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pool, had a zoo there, (smiling) and had a\nsign, \"No Blacks or Jews\" (smiling)-- or \"Christians Only\"--I think it said \"No\nBlacks or Jews.\" The swimming pool out on Scott Boulevard now, where people had\nthings (signs), \"Christians Only.\" So, they (the Jewish community) said, \"We\nneed a place for our kids to swim.\"\n\nBERMAN: What was the name of that pool? I'm . . .\n\nROMM: Phoenician. 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It was up on a hill, and it was solid rock underneath it, and it dropped\noff--a very deep drop--and the swimming pool was down in the hole and then ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"came\nback up to about this level, and had the tennis courts. And my dad actually,\neven when he wasn't the president, he was there every day to supervise what was\ngoing on. And [he] had great stories about when they lost their manager to the\nArmy, Daddy had to start buying food. 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Everything had to\nbe just right, couldn't be any deviation from . . . my Aunt Lena, in the\nmeantime, when they didn't have a manager, they hired her as the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"manager of the\nMayfair Club. She was a very strict disciplinarian and people even today said,\n\"Miss Romm wouldn't let us run through the club,\" she was strict with the\nemployees, strict with the children, strict with the members. I mean, this is\nthe way it's going to be! and that's the way her whole life was. Except\nfor--even further an aside--she moved back in with us when my mother and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dad\nwere already getting up in age, and of course, my Aunt Lena was four years older\nthan my dad. She'd do the cooking, she was a very good cook. And my daddy hated\ntwo salads, Waldorf salads and carrots and raisins. She had one or the other\nevery night, even though he told her (laughs) he didn't like them. That's Aunt\nLena, it was going to be her way. She didn't get along with my Aunt Rosalee. In\nfact, I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"used to tell Betty Ann Jacobson and Marilyn Erlich, they were just like\nAunt Lena, very efficient, could do anything, very outgoing and everything else.\nThen Marilyn said, \"She used to be, (chuckles) but I finally found out the kind\nof person she really was. My mother wasn't wrong, Aunt Lena was a tyrant!\" (laughs)\n\nBERMAN: (chuckles) The clubs, I know I keep going back to the clubs, they really\nintrigue me. 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I guess Vilnius\nis in Latvia, is that right?\n\nBERMAN: Lithuania.\n\nROMM: Lithuania, I didn't know, and I just found out last ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"week, after reading\none of the oral histories, that those people thought they were better than the\nother people. (laughs) If you were, whatever, they thought they were better. But\nI thought we were Hungarians! My dad said, \"No, no.\" I didn't know his father\nand everything. He belonged to the Hungarian Benevolent Society, which--I've\nlearned since I've been doing the oral ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"histories--had a synagogue here. And I\nsaid, \"Daddy, we're not Hungarian?\" he said, \"No, they needed a member.\"\n(chuckles) and he belonged to that. He belonged to everything. He was a Mason\nand a Shriner. He told a story, and I've heard somebody else change the thing,\nDr. Marx [Rabbi Dr. David Marx] was supposed to have gotten credit for stopping\nantisemitism in the Yaarab Temple. My ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dad claimed that he had, that they were\nnot getting any members in, any Jewish members, they were getting blackballed.\nHe and a couple of his friends went to a meeting . . .\n\nBERMAN: Explain what the Yaarab Temple is.\n\nROMM: The Yaarab Temple is the playground of the Masons. Masonry has different\ndegrees and you had to be a thirty-second-degree Mason to become a member of the\nShriners. 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The den, and Anta [his wife]--I bought the house without her ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seeing\nit--in the den they had monkey wallpaper, monkeys playing cards. I know you've\nseen it, it used to be a pretty common thing. And all through the house was like\nthat, (chuckles) it was a party house. He had a place for his . . . these people\nfrom the Shrine go on trips, and some of them have clubs where they have cars\nthat go up and down, and motorcycle groups, and each one is a little club and\nthey ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"socialize in those clubs and within the temple itself. This man had a big\nmotor home. They'd go to all these conventions and be in the parades and\neverything. I never got that involved in it, and I'll admit that probably the\nonly reason I became a Mason or a Shriner is because of my dad. Fathers are not\nsupposed to ask their children to join the Masons, and my dad ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"never asked me,\nbut I just knew that I was going to be a Mason. And he had things around the\nhouse, a tree like thing showing each year or which date he went through\ndifferent degrees, and I always heard my dad was--like I said--he belonged to\nall these things. He'd go to all the Fulton Lodge (#216) Mason meetings and\npicnics and everything. I went to all the Hebrew ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Benevolent Temple things, I\nwent to all the Hungarian Benevolent things, we went to everything that took place.\n\nBERMAN: Go back to the story about, you said that Rabbi Marx claimed that he . . .\n\nROMM: Well, no. In one of the . . . he didn't claim because we don't have an\noral history from him. We don't have any of his records. But, someone, and I\ndon't know which one of the oral histories I read, said that Dr. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marx gave a\nlecture--in one of the degrees in becoming a Scottish Rite Mason, moving\nup--that was fantastic. He was a brilliant man, a great speaker, and Christians\neverywhere who were involved in Masonry, wanted to hear Dr. Marx give this\nlecture. He threatened to quit doing it--I'm quoting someone's [oral]\nhistory--threatened to quit doing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it if they didn't start taking Jews into the\nShrine and the Yaarab Temple. My dad said that he and his friends went down and\nsat behind some men that they had decided were the ones who were blackballing\nthe Jews. And Dad said he poked one of them and said, \"We've got three of my\nfriends coming up for membership tonight. If any of them get blackballed, you'll\nnever have another member in Yaarab Temple because we'll ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"blackball everybody\nthat comes along.\" And they took those men in, and they never had any problems\nafter that. So, I think my dad's story sounds . . . the two things together\ncould have happened. I believe my dad's story.\n\nBERMAN: That's great. So, were you members of the Temple?\n\nROMM: We were members, we belonged to, the only one we didn't belong to--I never\nunderstood why--was Shearith Israel. 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It didn't make any\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"difference to me, I went to the Temple. They compromised. They would go to the\nTemple the first night and first day and then the second night and second day of\nthe holidays they would go to the AA synagogue. It upset my daddy very much\nbecause they'd want to give him honors at the AA, and it always had to be the\nsecond day. I guess the timing, when you get the honors and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2730.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everything else was\nvery important, and my dad wanted to everybody to see him getting honors at the\nright time. But, it worked out very good. One of the things I'm going to get\nin--I don't want to leave out about growing up--I lost my older brother when he\nwas nine and I was six. My mother never could get over it, and she blamed the\ndoctor. 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He had a backache, lower ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2790.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back, and we called the doctor. And Dr. Yampolsky\ncame over to the house, and he said, \"He has pneumonia,\" and \"send Junior to\nstay with somebody.\" Because we only had two bedrooms. So, I got bounced around\nfrom house to house for a few weeks. He had nurses around the clock, and he was\nin an oxygen tent, and this pain in his back kept going. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we got to the\nstreet, a block away from our house, there was no place to park. We passed our\nhouse, and I saw all these people and all these cars and we parked nearly two\nblocks away. We go back, and I heard this horrible yelling, just screaming, and\nI still didn't know what was going on. And everybody was, \"Oh, poor little\nJunior,\" everybody passed me, one to another. And they took me back to my\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mother, who was the one who was hysterical, and she grabbed me, \"Oh, my baby.\"\nShe takes me and (pauses briefly), it's traumatic even now, into the dining\nroom. No furniture, just a bassinet-type thing, and (gestures to show her\npushing his head down towards the bassinet), \"Tell your brother good-bye.\" And .\n. . it was horrible, it really was, and that may have changed my life too, I\ndon't know.\n\nBERMAN: Did they ever find out what it really ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was?\n\nROMM: No. (shakes head). And of course, Dr. Marx was there and Rabbi Epstein was\nthere, the whole community. Everybody was there.\n\nBERMAN: Well, that's horrible. So, your mom never got over it.\n\nROMM: Other than my knowing it, I don't think anybody knew. I'm sure my dad\nknew. She couldn't get ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pregnant, wanted to adopt a child, weren't a lot of\nchildren around to be adopted, and it was very hard. My mother went to work,\nthat helped her. Prior to that she'd been the perfect PTA mom, saw to it that\nher children got to where they were supposed to go and she was the room mother\nand she and my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Aunt Rosalee--and I give my Aunt Rosalee credit for it--did do\nthe hot dogs for the carnival every year at school. I know my mother did most of\nthe work, Aunt Rosalee collected the money (laughs). But, we had a charcoal\nbucket, that we had for at least 30 or 40 years after my grammar school days,\nthat they'd take over there and have hot dogs. Grammar school, and you ask\npeople--not you but--they ask people all the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time, I guess is what I'm saying,\n[about] antisemitism. Did you ever . . . there was very little . . . and, there\nwas antisemitism. You could get exposed to it and wouldn't know it in any way.\nIn grammar school, I met a young man--young boy--first grade. Alfred Quintin\nDobbs, Jr., whose daddy was one of the officials of Life of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgia, one of the\nfounders and officials of Life of Georgia. And when I'm in grammar school is in\n1934, started in 1934. That was in the height of the Depression, and, everybody\nwas the same, or at least, I thought we were all the same. But, the Dobbs had a\nchauffeur, and he would come to school every day and pick us up. One day we'd go\nto their house and one day he'd bring us to my house, and we did this all\nthrough school. But, our mothers got very friendly, so they went to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miss\nGertrude Corrigan, who was a Catholic. Very interesting, because most of the\npeople didn't like her because she was a Catholic. They didn't like the\nCatholics around here, moreso than they didn't like Jews. They asked Miss\nCorrigan if we could be in the same class through Highland Avenue Grammar\nSchool. And Miss Corrigan saw to it that we were in different classes the whole\ntime, and it had to be because she didn't approve of a Jewish boy and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Christian\nboy being so friendly. But we kept going [to each other's house], and if they\nwent to the movies, they'd take me. My folks go to the movies, we'd take\nQuintin. We were inseparable, until . . . and when we got to Junior High School,\na Jewish lady, Miss Goodman, was secretary of the school and Mother went to her\nand she said, \"We sure would like for them to be in the same class.\" And we were\nin the same class, seventh, eighth, and ninth grades at William A. Bass Junior\nHigh School in Little Five Points. We still ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were together every day--I rode my\nbicycle to school by then--but we were together all day, every weekend. We get\nto Boys High School, and something seemed strange. We were not close anymore.\nOh, neither one of us had a sibling, we were both only children. I didn't know\nwhat was wrong, it was a cold, \"Hello\" and he left. His father died in\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"December--and to me this is a great story of antisemitism--mother went over to\npay a condolence call, and Opal Dobbs says, \"Tootsie, I'm so upset. Quintin\njoined a fraternity\"--she named it, and I'll leave that out--\"the other day,\"\ntwo days after his daddy died. \"That's wonderful. What's so bad?\" \"Oh, his daddy\ntold him, he couldn't join it.\" \"Why'd his daddy tell him he couldn't join it?\"\nIn September, when they asked him to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be a member, his daddy asked, \"Did they ask\nMendel?\" and he said, \"No, they don't take Jews.\" And the daddy says, \"If they\ndon't take Mendel, you can't be a member.\" But, if he'd asked me, I was smart\nenough even then, I would have told him to go ahead. And because of that, I\njoined AZA, got very involved in AZA, became, I was Godol of my chapter, became\nthe fifth ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"district AZA president. I mean, it threw me with Jews other than my\nfamily, those I'd see at all these meetings we'd go to, and my Sunday School\nclass at the Temple. There were only eight or nine of us boys in the group.\n\nBERMAN: Did you ever talk to Quintin about it ever again?\n\nROMM: He had his own problems, he became an alcoholic. He was Treasurer of the\nLife of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgia. They retired him early and his first wife, who we knew, they\ngot divorced. He moved down to Sea Island, kept a place here. And, he collects\nantique cars. I don't think he's ever worked . . .oh, interesting story.\nEverybody else in the Dobbs family, including Rankin Smith's family--they were\nall interrelated, McEacherns, everybody--they bought Coca-Cola stock. This Mr.\nDobbs, he said he wasn't going to buy that. He bought ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pepsi Cola stock. And he\nwas so wrong, for fifty or sixty years, but if they still had it, I can assure\nyou they were as rich from that as the other people were from Coca-Cola. But,\nthey were very well-to-do people, very wonderful people. They belonged to the\nDruid Hills Methodist Church. And I'd go to church with them, once in a while,\nQuintin would go to Temple with me once in a while. You asked . . . he's called\nme a couple of times, wants me to see his antique ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"cars. I really don't . . . and\nwe've seen each other a couple of times at reunions of grammar school.\n\nBERMAN: Have you ever talked about that incident?\n\nROMM: That incident? No, no. I don't think he knew that his mother would have\nsaid something.\n\nBERMAN: Since you're talking a little bit about your Temple class, tell me about\nyour recollections of Rabbi Marx, what you thought of him.\n\nROMM: Rabbi Dr. Marx was a great man, and I'll start it off this ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3360.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"way. In grammar\nschool I was asked--and it gets back to a question of what is antisemitism and\neverything else--\"Where do you go to Sunday School?\" \"I go to the Temple\" \"Oh,\nthat Dr. Marx, what a fine Christian gentleman he was.\" It offended me. It took\nme fifty, sixty, seventy years to find out, they meant it as a compliment. He\nlived, what they considered, a Christian life. But, he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was wonderful. He did so\nmany good things that people don't know about. Didn't get paid a lot of money.\nIn fact (chuckles), reading one of the old officials of the Temple's oral\nhistory, I didn't realize how long it was before they . . . they gave him a cut\nin pay! And it was a long time after that before they even gave him a raise. And\nof course, the kind of money we're talking about--$5,000, $6,000 a year--seems\nlike nothing, but it was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"probably a fairly good salary in the 1920s and 1930s.\nBut, Dr. Marx was a very strict disciplinarian. He would go . . . oh, his . . .\nhe hid certain things from his congregation, in my eyes. He was a much more\ndevout Jew than anyone ever gave him credit for. On Yom ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kippur, we used to take,\nquote \"a two-hour break,\" and they refer to it as a \"lunch break\" jokingly. But,\nit really wasn't a joke because (chuckles) my daddy and I would go downtown to\none of the better restaurants, and see all the congregants in there eating. My\nmother sat in her seat, and came from a Reformed background where she learned\nHebrew in Sunday School. We took all the Hebrew out of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"our Temple. Dr. Marx did\nnot leave his seat. He read his prayer books the entire time, which, to me,\nmeant that if he'd had his way, we'd have all been there. And very few people\nrealize that, they thought he was . . . and later on in life, towards the end, I\nthink he got even more religious than he'd been earlier.\n\nBERMAN: A lot of people seem to have some ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very fond memories of Rabbi Marx, but\na lot of people have alluded to the fact that they didn't care for the way he\nran the Temple. Why do think that was?\n\nROMM: Well, I really don't know, other than the fact that to a lot of people he\nwas cold, even though I know how warm he was. People who had personal contact\nwith . . . and the good things he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did, one of my daddy's half-sisters got\nmarried later in life. She married a man who was going blind and he was deaf and\nshe only had one leg and was a cancer survivor. Dr. Marx performed the ceremony,\nand he wouldn't take any money from my dad, and I heard him say, \"Oh, what a\ngood mitzvah this is.\" So, I mean, that's the kind of man he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was. I think that\nhis congregation thought they were better than other people, and I think he\ntried to please his congregation, as an individual. And later in life, I told\nyou, after Jack became the rabbi, he kind of dropped out of the Temple.\n\nBERMAN: That's Jack Rothschild?\n\nROMM: Jack Rothchild. I had always heard--some people keep ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3600.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"denying it--that he\n[Dr. Marx] even went to some Orthodox synagogues for services. And people say,\n\"Oh no, he wouldn't do that.\" But, I believe he was, I think that even though he\nwas raised--he was one of the first Reform rabbis--I think his background had to\nbe religious.\n\nBERMAN: What about the Zionist incident? Did that offend people, the fact that\nhe was not a Zionist?\n\nROMM: Oh, oh, members of his congregation were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3630.0,3660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"upset, but he was one of the\nleading anti-Zionists in this country. We had an organization nationally, called\nAmerican Council for Judaism, and Dr. Marx was one of the leaders. He never changed.\n\nBERMAN: Why do you think he was so anti-Zionist?\n\nROMM: He was against anything that would not make Jews just like all the\nChristians in America. He wanted us to be equal and he didn't want any ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"outside\nthing to affect it. And I believe that, and that's my opinion, but I think that\nhad more to do with it than anything else.\n\nBERMAN: If we cold backtrack a little bit, when you were talking about your\nfather you mentioned the race riots. We can kind of segway into also . . . did\nyour father ever talk about the Leo Frank case?\n\nROMM: Very much so. My dad was, by that time, already twenty years old, when the\nrape took place, he was in his ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"teens. But he was twenty when they lynched Leo\nFrank. He and some of his friends heard that there was a crowd of people, going\nto storm the mortuary. Greenberg and something was the name.\n\nBERMAN: Flinn\n\nROMM: And I was . . . they had another name before that.\n\nBERMAN: Greenberg and Bloom.\n\nROMM: OK. But the reason I always remember the Flinn part is because Flinn was a\nCatholic and they did all the Jewish and Catholic funerals. And I remember that\nas a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kid. I hadn't been able to remember Flinn, because I read somewhere or\nheard somebody say the other name. But, anyhow, they went down there to have a\nfight--my dad and his buddies--with any of those rednecks who were going to try\nand get in there and destroy Mr. Frank's body. But the police were there and did\na great job. Daddy and his friends stood off in the background and watched, and\nhe told me literally, thousands of people stood in line to go in there and make\nsure the Jew was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3750.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dead.\n\nBERMAN: (pause) Unbelievable.\n\nROMM: And, antisemitism . . . I must have heard it fifty times myself, and I\nmust have heard it a hundred times with people when my dad was there, \"Mendel,\nya'll are different.\" \"No, we're no different.\" \"You're like us, you're not like\nthose Jews.\" Now, that's antisemitism.\n\nBERMAN: Who would say that?\n\nROMM: Some of my daddy's best business ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3780.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"friends, Christians, people he'd worked\nwith for thirty, forty, fifty years, would socialize [with]. And one man,\nCharlie Isbell, said, \"You Jews are going to the only pure race that's going to\nbe left.\" This is in the 1940s. \"What do you mean the only pure race?\" \"The\nChristians and the Blacks are all ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going to be one and the Jews are going to\nstill be Jews, Jews are going to be pure.\" I was in my teens and I wanted to\ntell him, \"Mr. Isbell, I was up in New York, I saw a lot of white Jewish women\nwalking with Black men. (laughs) I don't think we're going to be different than\nanybody else.\" That's antisemitism. 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And you have to practically stand on the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sidelines to be able to throw the ball in from out of bounds. Well, Dad's\nnickname was \"Monk.\" They said, \"Monk, sit out the next play.\" Dad said, \"Why?\"\n\"Just sit out.\" And the next play, when they threw the ball in, each one of his\nteam mates had picked a player to knock into the wall. Didn't have to hit them\nvery hard, didn't have to, to knock into a wall. They said, \"That will teach you\nnot to pick on our Jew boy.\" Isn't that a nice ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"story?\n\nBERMAN: They must have loved him. (chuckles)\n\nROMM: Over the years you see things happening. The first really antisemitic\nthing that came to me--couldn't have been more than eight or nine years\nold--some people moved here, in the Army, from Hawaii. The kid was\nhalf-Hawaiian, half-American. His dad was a soldier and his ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3930.0,3960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mother was\n[Hawaiian] . . . and he told my neighborhood friends I played with every day, he\ntook a rock and threw it at me and told them, \"Pick up rocks, throw it at that\nJew.\" And, \"We can't play with you,\" this spokesman from my friends [said]. They\ndidn't take up for me, which surprised me. I grew up with these kids. I ran home\ncrying. My mother was busy playing cards, which was a normal ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3960.0,3990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"afternoon, and Mrs.\nBen Kaplan, who was Bunny Sinner's mother, had a cigarette dangling in her\nmouth, which she usually did . . .\n\nBERMAN: What was her first name, Mrs. Ben Kaplan?\n\nROMM: She was a Newman, in fact, Bunny was Bunny Newman . . . I think I wrote it down.\n\nBERMAN: We can get it later . . .\n\nROMM: I'll get that to you, it'll hit me. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=3990.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She was one of my mother's best\nfriends. Everyone was quote, \"one of my mother's best friends\" (smiles). And my\nmother says, \"Go fight your own battles! (laughs) You go back down there and you\nfight your own battles,\" and sent me out, and probably helped make a man out of\nme. And I went back down there and I said, \"OK, who wants to be the first one?\"\nAnd they said, \"Uh, what are you talking about?\" \"Ya'll were throwing rocks and\ntelling me you weren't going to play with me.\" \"Oh, that's just that Hawaiian,\ndon't worry about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4020.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"him.\" And it just [passed] . . . and he and I--the Hawaiian\nkid and I--didn't get friendly, but we tolerated each other.\n\nBERMAN: So, the card playing. That was an integral part for . . .\n\nROMM: For Jewish women?\n\nBERMAN: . . . for Jewish women.\n\nROMM: And later on it became mahjong and canasta, and later on in life, it got\nback to gin rummy. Bridge, and mahjong, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4050.0,4080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"canasta, my mother was very good at\nall those games.\n\nBERMAN: Did they play at home or at the club?\n\nROMM: They played at home, back in the 1930s. The thing that's interesting about\nthe club, I don't really remember because I was too young. The men played cards\nat the Progressive Club, and the men played cards at the Mayfair Club. But, the\nwomen took up the card-playing later at the Mayfair Club than when it first\nopened. But, most of it was done at home, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4080.0,4110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they had a game every day of the week.\n\nBERMAN: Would they play for money?\n\nROMM: Oh, of course. I guess that's what that stuff was. It wasn't very big\nmoney (chuckles) I don't think.\n\nBERMAN: That's great.\n\nROMM: But, they had wonderful people and it couldn't have been . . . growing up\nin this town and the friends that my family had, that I had, this is the\ngreatest place in the world.\n\nBERMAN: Well, tell me a little bit about Rabbi Marx.\n\nROMM: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4110.0,4140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OK.\n\nBERMAN: What do you remember about Rabbi Epstein?\n\nROMM: Wait, wait, wait. Let me tell you a Dr. Marx story, why people didn't like\nDr. Marx. When I was about fifteen years old, we decided to have a party at the\nTemple, my confirmation class. There were only eight boys and ten girls. Well,\nyou can't have much of a party, and you know each other and everything, so we\ninvited other people to come. We invited a bunch of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4140.0,4170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people who went to the AA.\nAnd, the fellas come in with yarmulkes on, to the party. Dr. Marx walks in and\nhe sees them, and he has a fit. \"Get those infidel hats off of your heads right\nnow! This is a house of God.\" I remember it. 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Go to our church--happened to be a temple, not a\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4290.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"church--and we believe in God and we're reverent. And a different thing about\nour temple, that I remember as a child--and I'm beginning to wonder now what's\nhappened to it--when the services were at 9:30, 10:00 o'clock, you gotta be\nthere on time. Otherwise, you had to wait until they'd let you come in, like\ngoing to a show or a concert, you have to get in there. Nobody got up! --people\nhad good bladders--nobody got up to leave that room until it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4320.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was time to leave.\nAnd then, later on, in Jack's time there were certain times when you were not\nsupposed to get up or leave and people would do it. But, Dr. Marx was very\nstrict, and it was . . . and we think . . . oh, and no talking or anything else\n. . . we think it was his trying to make it like church services. When I'd go to\nchurch services, everybody sat down, I didn't see anybody get up and go. Go to\nthe AA? People were in and out, talking to each other, carrying on\nconversations, having business conversations in the middle of, except ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4350.0,4380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"certain\nplaces. There was a big difference. I can see why people would say \"Hey, golly,\nthese people are this way and these people are another way.\"\n\nBERMAN: Do you think his feeling about wanting to become more like everybody\nelse became more pronounced after the [Leo] Frank case, for Rabbi Marx?\n\nROMM: Well, I really don't, I don't know. All I know it's in the 1920s and early\n1930s we had a tremendous number of members of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4380.0,4410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Temple, here in Atlanta, who\nconverted to Christianity.\n\nBERMAN: Really?\n\nROMM: You didn't know that? (laughs) Well, it got to the point, at one\npoint--and some of the people who are involved here--their relatives became very\nbig in the Christian Science Church as one of them. And they wanted my daddy to\njoin. I told you my daddy joined everything. Daddy said, \"The only thing wrong\nwith joining, who am I going to sit with?\" This fella said, \"You can sit with\nthe rest of us ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4410.0,4440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jews.\" (smiling)\n\nBERMAN: Why do you think that happened?\n\nROMM: To assimilate.\n\nBERMAN: What was the thing with Christian Scientists?\n\nROMM: Well, Christian Scientists--I don't know enough about the history--but it\nseemed to me, the little I knew from childhood, a lot of the founders of\nChristian Science up East . . . didn't it start in Boston, somewhere like that?\n\nBERMAN: I'm not sure where . . .\n\nROMM: I think a lot of it had some Jewish people involved in it.\n\nBERMAN: Who were some of the families that did ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4440.0,4470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"join?\n\nROMM: Asher, and Elsas, the Schwob. The Schwob didn't join Christian Science\nchurch, they may have joined another church. One of the Oberdorfer girls joined\na church.\n\nBERMAN: The [unintelligible]\n\nROMM: There were lots of them. I think it was to try and fit in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4470.0,4500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"socially,\nbecause even if they were in business together, they had no social life together.\n\nBERMAN: Did that change things for them socially? Were they then able to join\nthe Christian clubs?\n\nROMM: No. That's part of my oral history. I was going to get the Coca-Cola\nfranchise in Israel, when the Arabs had the big boycott. A friend of mine, John\nCandler--whose grandfather was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4500.0,4530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Asa Candler--he and I decided to get the\ninformation together, how we were going to do it and everything, and got some\ninvestors. Investors included Ben Massell, Al Garber, Albert Love, Dave Sinner,\npeople with money. John and I went to New York to see J Paul Austin, who was the\nhead of the export company. And we knew all the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4530.0,4560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"arguments that the Coca-Cola\ncompany had not because the Arab's reasons they weren't going to do it. We had\nall that worked out, and Albert Love--whose name originally was Bogaslov, and\nthat's great Atlanta history--his nephew was the Assistant [indistinguishable]\nin Israel. And, as things were, Israel would not give them a permit, and we'd\nalready got that taken care of. All the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4560.0,4590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people had cows, all these Europeans\nwho'd gone there, and everybody had milk and they didn't buy soft drinks. Well,\nwe knew that wasn't different because they had a little kiosk on every corner in\nIsrael, from the time they started the country. People wanted something to\ndrink. Just everything that they had. About exporting, they didn't want to have\nto give us money, balance of trade. Well, we were going to buy oranges, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4590.0,4620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"put\na Minute Maid plant--which is owned by Coca-Cola company--in Israel, and let\nthem pay for the syrup with the oranges and ship the orange juice out. We worked\nout every angel we could get. We go there, and Mr. Austin he . . . and John's\nuncle was on the board of the Coca-Cola company, Charles Candler--who told us\nlater on, the reason he didn't fight for us was we didn't cut his son in. I\ndon't know if that's true or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4620.0,4650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not. We get turned down, we're flying home, and I\ntell John Candler this story. And at the time, I was in the money, big money,\nand we were talking about Jews who became Christian. There's a family here, the\nLeide family, Enrico Leide came to Atlanta as the conductor of a theater\norchestra--I'd forgot who he married, he married Lucy Candler (laughs), I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4650.0,4680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"forgot\nthat at the time--and his children had gone to the Temple when they came here.\nAnd his father was a Romanian cantor or rabbi or something. When he married Lucy\nCandler, they became Christians, the children. And the Leide family belonged to\nthe [Piedmont] Driving Club and everything else. But, John they say, \"Oh, they\nwere Christians they weren't Jews.\" But, a lot of them couldn't get in, tried\neverything, the Ferst family wanted to get in in the worst sort of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4680.0,4710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"way. They\neven hired Jimmy Carmichael--who was the head of the Bell Bomber plant--to come\nto Scripto--and he was a member of the Driving Club, thinking that he would be\nable to wedge them in. They started to get into all these social affairs at the\nPiedmont Driving Club, but under Carmichael's name. People tried all different\nkinds of ways to get accepted. Betty Regenstein, nice lady, became a Christian,\nwent to Agnes ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4710.0,4740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Scott College. She's a little older than me, but this is all\nhappening while I'm growing up. She gets engaged to a Jewish fella, Stan Ebner,\nand she goes out there and tells all of her Christian friends, \"I'm marrying\noutside the faith.\" They say, \"You're not marrying a Jew?\" So, as much as these\npeople tried to get accepted, they really didn't, they really didn't.\n\nBERMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4740.0,4770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did the Fersts ever get in to the Driving Club?\n\nROMM: Well, today, there's nobody left, that I know of. Jeanne Ferst is the, was\nthe, National Republican Committee Woman, and I can assure you she never got in.\nBut, we had some people who set people straight. Josephine Hyman wouldn't go to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4770.0,4800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anything that was at the Driving Club, Mrs. Uhry, Arline Uhry, wouldn't go to\nanything that was at the Driving Club. Organizations would have meetings and\nthings, they let them know, \"I'm not welcome there, I'm not going to go.\"\n\nBERMAN: That's great. I think Josephine Hyman was a real leader in the\ncommunity. Do you have any recollections about her?\n\nROMM: Well, one story that is fantastic. I knew her very well because, I said\nLyons Joel was a close friend of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4800.0,4830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mine. When I was trying to find out about the\ncemetery, I got involved in the Temple cemetery committee. And I'm finally\n(claps his hands) getting to step down, I'm going to have a co-chairman this\nyear--my daughter, Lisa Kepler--is going to be my co-chair. I talked to them, I\nsaid, \"Please get somebody\" . . . but, anyhow, I asked a question. 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Mr. Asa\nCandler, owned Westview ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4890.0,4920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"cemetery, and Mr. Hirsch was also the attorney for the\ncemetery, and he also was the big man at our temple. So, it was very simple.\nWe'll go out there, we'll have as much land as we want for our new cemetery.\nWell, some of them, they were already moving north, and some of them wanted to\ngo, and got sold a bill-of-goods to go to Crestlawn, which is on Marietta\nBoulevard. I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4920.0,4950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"asked Josephine, I said, \"What happened? Why was this big split?\"\nBecause there are some people at Temple buried at Westview. And she said this,\nand I'm quoting her, she said, \"Mendel, you know, some Jews thought they were\nbetter than other Jews, but the Hyman family stayed with the Temple.\" (smiling)\nIsn't it nice? And everybody says it sounds just like her. Arthur even told me\n\"That sounds just like my mother.\"\n\nBERMAN: That does sound like her. I had the good fortune of getting to know her\npretty ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4950.0,4980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well before she passed away, and that does sound like her. She was great.\nI want to regress a little bit and get back to the rabbis. You were going to\ntalk a little bit about Rabbi Epstein. What your recollections were of him, and\nhis relationship with Rabbi Marx.\n\nROMM: Well, it could not have been a good one because he refused to--one or the\nother refused to officiate--at happy occasions when families were from both\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=4980.0,5010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"places, or had some kind of connection. You had to take your choice of one or\nthe other, you couldn't . . . they wouldn't be there. For a long time--and I'm\nnot sure of this, it's just coming off the top of my head--I don't even think\nDr. Marx would let Rabbi Epstein officiate at a wedding at our Temple. Or, it\nmay have been the other way around. Rabbi Epstein didn't want to be there\nbecause it wasn't a house of God, as far as he was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5010.0,5040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"concerned.\n\nBERMAN: Did you go to services at AA as well?\n\nROMM: Well, part of the oral history, I went to the Temple. My wife was raised\nin a Reform temple in Dothan Alabama, her daddy was the president of the temple\ndown there, we were married there. Rabbi Gerber--I don't know, Rabbi Israel\nGerber--he's since retired from Charlotte (North Carolina) and moved her, he\nmarried us, and he was a psychiatrist. He gave ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5040.0,5070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"us a little pep talk before we\nhad the ceremony. And asked us a question, he said, \"How often are ya'll gonna\ngo to temple?\" And Anta said, \"Every Friday night.\" (laughs) And I said, \"No,\nAnta, you're moving to Atlanta. We're going to go twice a year.\"\n\nBERMAN: (chuckles)\n\nROMM: My attitude was this. We came here and of course, joined the Temple. Our\nchildren started growing up, started going to the Temple. And I realized,\nneither Anta or I really had a good Jewish background. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5070.0,5100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Times had changed, people\nneed to know what's going on. And, my daddy bought a bunch of extra seats at the\nAA, that's how they raised their money was selling seats, hoping that Anta and I\nwould join. So, I joined, didn't drop out of the Temple, with the idea we'd send\nour kids to Sunday School there. Our Sunday School was terrible. I'll tell you\nwhat I learned in Sunday School, and I loved going to Sunday School. I learned\nthe Gettysburg Address, I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5100.0,5130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"learned about George Washington's life. Didn't . . .\nwe did the holidays, but, the big thing was being Americans.\n\nBERMAN: It's amazing, it truly is.\n\nROMM: We joined AA, and first year the kids go to Sunday School there, they\nchange it. You have to go to Hebrew School certain age Mondays and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5130.0,5160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Wednesdays,\ncertain age Tuesdays and Thursdays. Nobody was going to go on Sundays. (smiles)\nAnta says, \"I gotta take to dancing, I got to go to soccer,\" started naming all\nthese things, \"how am I gonna have time to take them to Sunday School in the\nmiddle of the week?\" And they did still have Sunday School, and they had a young\nman there, Rabbi Raphael Gold. He was acting as a Chief Rabbi ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5160.0,5190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"while Rabbi\nEpstein went on a sabbatical. So, I go to see him. I say, \"Rabbi, I joined the\nAA and I want to send my kids. I'm a member of the Temple, I'd like my kids to\nget a better Jewish education. But, ya'll are doing all this.\" I said, \"Can't\nyou get some more kids in on Sunday so I can have them all here on one day?\" And\nespecially--I didn't think about it at the time--if I lived in Carrollton,\nGeorgia, if they wanted them to have any religious school, they'd have to have\nthem do it on Sunday, and I'm sure they made accommodations for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5190.0,5220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people. But,\nthey were telling me what I was going to have to do. So, he says, \"There's just\nno way we can do it.\" I said, \"Well, Rabbi, I found a place, said they'd take\nall four of my children every Sunday. The Cathedral of Saint Phillips said all\nfour of my kids could come to Sunday School every Sunday.\" He didn't understand\nit. But, that's me, that's the way I was. But, Rabbi Epstein was a wonderful\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5220.0,5250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"man, and he and my dad were politically opposites.\n\nBERMAN: Really?\n\nROMM: And now, this is off the top of my head . . . as I told you, my dad,\neverything had to be just done, whatever, if it says \"A\" it better be an \"A,\"\nyou can't make it an A+, A-, it's gotta be exactly that, and it's gotta be right\nwhere it's supposed to be. Rabbi Epstein, over the years, always adjusted ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5250.0,5280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things\nto go with the flow of his people, and I'm not saying that disrespectfully or\nanything else. He knew what it took to keep his congregants happy. And, he and\nDaddy had some . . . Daddy didn't like the fact Rabbi Epstein tried to take over\nB'nai B'rith in Atlanta, and that was one of my daddy's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5280.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things. They had an\nargument about it and my dad saved a letter, Mother and I threw all that away,\nfrom Rabbi Epstein apologizing that he realized he went overboard.\n\nBERMAN: How did he try to take over B'nai B'rith?\n\nROMM: Decide who the officers are going to be, what the projects are going to\nbe, you know. The leadership is who decides. 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Why don't you help us with our programs?\nWhy don't we have local initiatives and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not the national telling us what to do.\"\nThey got upset with me.\n\nBERMAN: That's interesting. It's interesting, the whole Rabbi Epstein taking\nsuch a . . . and I don't know if we should get to it on this tape, or the next\nsession where we get into the Rabbi Rothschild era. But I definitely want to\nhear more. But, I thought maybe we'd go back to your dad a little bit more.\n\nROMM: Alright.\n\nBERMAN: I'd like ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5370.0,5400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you to talk, we've talked just between the two of us, about\nsome of the trends. Who he socialized with and then you can tell me a little bit\nabout each one of those individuals.\n\nROMM: Well, if I had the picture of the Don't Worry Club I would do it. Jake\nSrochi(sp), from the Atlanta Baking Company. Jake and Sarah, in fact . . . my\nmother was probably Sarah's dearest friends, but one of her ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5400.0,5430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"only friends. She\ndied a very early age. Helen and Cindy Srochi, the Srochi family. [The] Herbert Taylors.\n\nBERMAN: Tell me about Herbert Taylor, what was he like?\n\nROMM: One of the sweetest, nicest men ever was. I'll tell you how close our\nfamily were. My daddy wasn't going to have a house unless Herbert Taylor built\nit. And, we bought some land on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5430.0,5460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Long Island Drive, which at the time was quote\n\"the country.\" Today it's practically Midtown. We had to wait until the war was\nover to build the house. Doc Taylor, told my daddy, \"Monk,\" said, \"the price is\nup to about ten dollars a foot to build. I don't think you should build now, we\nought to wait till it drops down in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5460.0,5490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"price.\" That was the relationship they had.\n\nBERMAN: That was his nickname, \"Doc?\"\n\nROMM: \"Doc.\" Doc Taylor. He owned pharmacies, but he wasn't a pharmacist. That's\nwhy Mark [Taylor] wants to do this with me, because we would really get to . . .\n\nBERMAN: So, was he a baker?\n\nROMM: His family was.\n\nBERMAN: OK, tell me, they owned a bakery . . .\n\nROMM: They owned a bakery on the southside, and so did the Srochis, all they\nstarted off with was a bakery. And the Novacks started off with a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5490.0,5520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bakery.\n\nBERMAN: How does Herbert Taylor go from being in a baking family to the building industry?\n\nROMM: Well, the building part Mark would have to tell you. I know how he got\ninto the apartment business. He opened up these drug stores where he had\ndruggists working for him. He started meeting people and making investments and\nthe only part I know about is, we wrote all ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5520.0,5550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the insurance. And I went in the\ninsurance business for a while, so I remember some of it. My daddy was \"Monk\" to\nhim and he was \"Doc.\"\n\nBERMAN: So, tell me about my favorite, A. L. Feldman.\n\nROMM: Oh. A. L. was one of my . . . A. L. moved to Atlanta. But he was in the\nDon't Worry Club and he took it--like most things, he wanted to take it\nover--and he did, he was president and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5550.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everything. He was Mr. Selig's secretary,\nmale secretary, and learned the business, and Mr. Selig wasn't a manufacturer,\nhe was an agent for another company . . .\n\nBERMAN: Zep Chemicals.\n\nROMM: So, A. L. decides he's going to go in that business. He hires Mandle\nZaban, as a sales manager. And of course, Mr. Romm Sr. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5580.0,5610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wrote all the insurance\nand they did super, really great. After a few years, Mandle got a little hungry,\nand my dad was his intermediary and went to A. L. and says, \"A. L. you've got to\ngive Mandle a taste of the business.\" \"What are you talking about? I'm paying\nhim $100 a week!\" and that was good money. He ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5610.0,5640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said--I may have been sitting\nthere, for all I know--he said, \"Ungrateful. How ungrateful, he would be nothing\nwithout me.\" Daddy says, \"You're making a terrible mistake because if he doesn't\nget part of this, he's going to go into business for himself.\" Mendel decided A.\nL. wasn't about to do anything, so, my daddy and my Uncle Sol were going to\nfinance Mandle ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5640.0,5670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Zaban in the chemical business. But, his brother-in law, Eplan,\nit became a family-type thing. They were going to work and my daddy and Uncle\nSol were just going to be investors. But, we wrote insurance for Zep, kept\nwriting it for A. L. Feldman, wrote it for Sinner Chemical Company. I think we\nwrote most of the chemical people's insurance in town.\n\nBERMAN: What was he like as a person--A. L. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5670.0,5700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Feldman, I mean--because we never\nhad a chance to interview him.\n\nROMM: To me, he was always very cold type person, but, they liked him. He\nthought he was a \"ladies' man\" too, I want to add that. Had a lovely wife, her\nmaiden name was Saul.\n\nBERMAN: What was her first name?\n\nROMM: (chuckles) I'll remember that.\n\nBERMAN: We can get to that later.\n\nROMM: I know his daughter's names, Carlin and Brenna. But, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5700.0,5730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he got me, when I\ncame back from the service in 1952, he talked my dad into letting me volunteer\nfulltime for the United Way. He was a big shot and all the banks were sending\nyoung officers over there to work and all big law firms and everything else. And\nwe were pip-squeaks, there was no reason for me to go over there. But, he\nthought it would be good for me to meet all these young men who were going to be\nthe \"comers\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5730.0,5760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in their fields, and he was so proud of himself that I went there.\nAnd that's the impression I got then, \"Look what I did, I got Mendel Jr. over here.\"\n\nBERMAN: Was your dad friends with Sam Eplan?\n\nROMM: Oh, same, going back to the Don't Worry Club.\n\nBERMAN: What was he like?\n\nROMM: I thought he was a terrific man. 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Sam Eplan, all his family, people in there, that's who we associated with.\n\nBERMAN: I think in the next session, we're going to deal a little more with you.\nLet's stick with some of the earlier things that I want to get back ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5790.0,5820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to. How are\nyou related, and what's your connection with the Greenblatts?\n\nROMM: I was going to tell you, that was very important. In Cold Creek,\nTennessee, a couple came from Europe, and some of the people--and I'll find out\nfor sure--said right after the Civil War. I started figuring out when people\nwere born, and I think it had to be in the 1870s.\n\nBERMAN: Do you know where they came ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5820.0,5850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from?\n\nROMM: I told you, we started off earlier before . . .\n\nBERMAN: That's right.\n\nROMM: . . . we think, but, I've got a feeling it may be a different place than\nthat because I'm finding some Greenblatts who are involved with the Romms. I've\nalways wanted to know how Michael Romm came from Lithuania and met Bertha\nGreenblatt in Tennessee. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5850.0,5880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, based on what some people have said, that Sydney\nFeldman was a quote \"landsman of Mike Greenblatt.\" Well, not according to\nSydney. I don't understand . . . but, there's a possibility yes, because there\nis a relationship between the Londons and my mother's family. 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There's a Bach family\nhere that we'll talk about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5910.0,5940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"later. Isadore, who moved to Pensacola [Florida],\nwell, I need to stop here. The five men became either not Jewish, or Reformed,\nor had very little religion. The four girls stuck to Orthodox Judaism. And the\nanswer I got from Madam Cecile (Suh-seal), who was a Greenblatt, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=5940.0,5970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was that the\nboys all left home very early and the girls stayed and had the influence of\ntheir parents. And the boys came to America, in fact, Uncle Morris was born in\nTennessee. All the kids, they were a year or two apart, they lived their\nformative years in Tennessee. Uncle Louie, married a Baptist and became a deacon\nin the Baptist church. 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That's why, I\ndon't care if my family came 10 years or 20 years or 30 years later, based on\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6030.0,6060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time we've been here, we've been here as long . . . and I throw that up to\nsome of my buddies who start . . . in fact, one of them--I don't mind telling, I\ntell it in the oral history--Sig Guthman, great guy. George Goldman, great guy.\nThese are people, they were about a year, not quite a year younger than I was,\nbut we ran around together, we lived out in Druid Hills. George Goldman ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6060.0,6090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"came to\nthe Temple about a year ago, right after Rabbi Sulkey(sp) came, and he gets up\nin a meeting and he says, \"Rabbi, you don't know me. I am a new member of your\ncongregation,\" no, \"your synagogue.\"\n\nBERMAN: Why did he do that?\n\nROMM: You gotta know George. (smiles) And he said, \"I live on, over here, I can\nthrow a rock and hit Beth Jacob, and all these ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6090.0,6120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Orthodox Jews live around me and\nthey have five children, seven children. They don't let them read the newspaper,\nthey don't let them watch television.\" (chuckles). And the Rabbi was beginning\nto steam, and somebody else got up and said, \"I think this should take place\nsome other time,\" we had a lot of Christians there that night too. But, that's\nthe way we were raised. But, every one of us, I think, are very proud of the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6120.0,6150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fact that our grandchildren go to Day Schools now. [I] went to a bat mitzvah\nlast Saturday of Carole [Brockey] and Joel Goldberg's granddaughter. Barry\nPhillips, and I'm trying to think of his wife's name . . . Gracie, Barry and\nGracie, their granddaughter, Barry Jr.'s [daughter]. In both cases, the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6150.0,6180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fathers\nare converts.\n\nBERMAN: That's good. Well, it's interesting too, because it has sort of come\nfull circle, don't you think . . .\n\nROMM: Oh, it has to.\n\nBERMAN: . . . with the wives. I know with Margaret's family.\n\nROMM: For this man, to threaten Dr. Marx because he won't give a bar mitzvah,\nand now they go to Day Schools, they have all these . . . and they stay in for\nconfirmation class too. In fact, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6180.0,6210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the older Phillips girl--I think her name is\nEmily, I'm not sure--is an aid to my daughter Lisa, who's been a Sunday School\nteacher now, for 20 years at the Temple.\n\nBERMAN: Why do you think it made this change. Why do you think it's come back\naround to that?\n\nROMM: I think Hitler woke us up, to start off with. 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I like to read books and I've got a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6240.0,6270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"few\nthousand books, and people used to ask me, \"Why do all the books I read have\nsome kind of Jewish part to it?\" Sometimes I don't even realize that, but they\nsee the books I read and they say, a character may be Jewish or, I think it's\njust something that was inbred. And I think that's coming full circle, that we\nknow we're Jewish, and we're special. We're very privileged to be ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6270.0,6300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish.\n\nBERMAN: Before the war, and when you were a young man, were you in situations\nwhere you were sometimes afraid to say you were Jewish?\n\nROMM: Well, never that, never that. But I learned, as a youngster, what people\nhave said since then. 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And no one ever told me yay/nay, but\nsomething inside of me said, \"I'm Jewish, I shouldn't be singing Christmas\ncarols.\" In my home, very interesting growing up, we didn't keep ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6330.0,6360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kosher, even\nthough both my grandmothers kept kosher. But, Passover, we changed the dishes\nand kept strict kosher for those Passover holidays. Did that always, and we\nweren't the only ones, a lot of the other people, Reform people that we knew,\ndid that.\n\nBERMAN: And some of your friends must have had Christmas trees.\n\nROMM: Oh, a lot of them had Christmas trees. I wanted one, I wanted one in the\nworse sort of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6360.0,6390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"way. And finally--and I don't know how old I was--my mother tried\nto make up for losing my brother, and she used to do things that she might not\nhave done. They gave me a little tiny Christmas tree on the back porch (smiles)\nand bought me some Mickey Mouse lights to go on it, and only did it that one\ntime. But, I wanted to be like everybody else. My friend the Dobbs, they had a\n30-foot tree!\n\nBERMAN: What about some your Jewish friends that had trees? Was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6390.0,6420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that interesting\nto go over to their houses?\n\nROMM: I know, because we used to talk about it, I don't, it just didn't make any\ndifference. Of course, back in that early time, I was at the Dobbs. I was in a\nChristian house more so than I was in Jewish houses.\n\nBERMAN: Well, what about Ballyhoo, did you attend that?\n\nROMM: Of course I did, of course I did.\n\nBERMAN: Tell me about some of your Ballyhoo experiences.\n\nROMM: Well, I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6420.0,6450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"introduced . . . I had people stay at my house for Ballyhoo, and I\nintroduced some of them to people who they later married. It was very\ninteresting. We'd go to Jubilee.\n\nBERMAN: What was Jubilee?\n\nROMM: Jubilee was in Birmingham. Falcon was in Montgomery [Alabama]. I dated\nAdele Ziedman, who married some famous Rabbi--her daddy was a big lawyer in\nBirmingham--and that always shocked me that she ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6450.0,6480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"married this rabbi up in Buffalo\n[New York] or somewhere like that. That's how you met people, going to those\nsocial affairs.\n\n[pause in tape]\n\nEarlier we were talking about intermarriages. My first cousins on my mother's\nside--I told you background of how her sisters met their husbands and everything\nelse--the Reeds were from Plainfield, New Jersey as I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6480.0,6510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was growing up and knew\nthem. And the oldest one, Solen Chadwick Reed, married Sam Rothberg--from here\nin Atlanta's--niece. Her father was the Attorney General of the state of New\nJersey. Well, they became Presbyterians. I think her name was Ann, Solen and\nAnn, because he was very political, wanted to run for office and he wanted to do\nit as a Christian. Sam Rothberg used to tell me every time he'd see me, \"If it\nwasn't for your ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6510.0,6540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"cousin, (chuckles) my niece would still be Jewish!\" Their\nchildren grew up, and didn't know that they were Jews until they, later on, met\nsome of their relatives. And there were two sons, and Solen was very, very big\nin Wall Street. Victor, his brother, became a professor, he's still living. He's\none of the foremost ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6540.0,6570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Shakespearean authorities in America, and he married a\nChristian girl. But, on his second marriage--I don't know how long he was in\nbetween--he married a girl who, her married name was Romm . . . [pause in tape]\n. . . (don't know if it's the) same Romms. It's very interesting, intermarriage\nin my family. My Uncle Sonny's children, only one of them ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6570.0,6600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"married--a girl from\nAlabama, a little town outside of Birmingham--and they remained Jewish. But his\nbrothers, one of them married a girl whose dad owned the Cadillac dealership in\nSalsbury, North Carolina, president of the country club and they became whatever\nthey may be, and they ended up finally getting divorced. Another one married a\ngirl, you know, I don't understand what happened to my mother's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6600.0,6630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"family, because\nthey, even though they were raised Reform, they were raised very devout Reform.\nI don't understand it.\n\nBERMAN: What about your father's side?\n\nROMM: On my father's side, I said, as far as his sisters . . .\n\nBERMAN: Well, you said that it was on your mother's side, a lot of\nintermarriage, but on your father's side . . .\n\nROMM: On my father's side, his ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6630.0,6660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"uncles . . .\n\nBERMAN: Right.\n\nROMM: . . . they either, well, for example--I wrote it down somewhere\nhere--Morris Greenblatt's wife was a Buckman, Reform Jews here from the old\nGerman thing. Mike Greenblatt married a Hirsch, who was from that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6660.0,6690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"old Reform\nJewish background. Sam Greenblatt married a Shear, S-H-E-A-R, who, I think, was\nfrom Texas somewhere, and her daughter--named Evelyn Greenblatt Howland--she\nnever, she really didn't want to be Jewish. And her brother ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6690.0,6720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sydney, married\nHarriet Wiseberg, whose family changed their name to Whitehill. So, it's part of\nthat, you didn't have to marry somebody that wasn't Jewish to be (chuckles) not\nJewish. But the women though, the Baches includes Judge Joel Feldman's mother,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6720.0,6750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Melton Bach the CPA. The Silvermans, the Leveys, they only had two daughters.\nSam Levey, daughter Mary, they only had two children. One of them lived in\nCalifornia, and one of them lived in Milledgeville, Georgia, married a Goodrich.\nThey all stayed kind of connected Jewish, more so than the Greenblatts. Great\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6750.0,6780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"story, in grammar school they asked me \"Why don't Jews have middle names?\" I'm\nMendel Romm Jr., I don't have a middle name, and I started thinking about it, I\ndidn't know anybody had middle names. Then I thought, wait a second, my daddy's\nUncle Sam is Sam R. Greenblatt, and his brother is, Michael A. Greenblatt, so\nJews must have middle names. Well, I found out, in the Spanish American War, if\nyou didn't have a middle ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6780.0,6810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"name you got an NMI, \"No Middle Initial.\" So, they gave\nthemselves middle initials. Mike Greenblatt, guess what his \"A\" stands for--it's\na great story--it's Angelo. Michael Angelo Greenblatt (smiling). So, to me, it\ndoesn't say very good about our religion that these men . . . (smiling)\n\nBERMAN: I think we probably have a few more minutes, but in the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6810.0,6840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"last five\nminutes, I want to know, was Ballyhoo a wild time? I want to know what you all did.\n\nROMM: We were drinking younger than we should have been. There was a lot of\nmingling of boys and girls, that we had not done as heavy--and I don't mean that\nnecessarily sexually--but that the intensity of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6840.0,6870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"boys and girls being together.\nThere was a lot of it during those few days that we had Ballyhoo.\n\nBERMAN: Was it similar to how Alfred Uhry depicted it in his musical, in his play?\n\nROMM: What, the girls had to be dressed . . .\n\nBERMAN: Yes and, was it mostly the German Jewish kids . . .\n\nROMM: Originally, when it started off it was that way. But no, it ended up . . .\ncouldn't be anybody more Jewish than the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6870.0,6900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gold family in Atlanta. Old man Gold\nhad a delicatessen, and his children, Silvia married I. T. Cohen--that's Barbara\n[Cohen] Schatten's folks--the Rubinsons, one of the sisters married [Arthur]\nArchie Rubinson. Their daughter Harriet was one of them, a friend of mine that I\ngot to come to Ballyhoo, and she ended up marrying one of guys ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6900.0,6930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there. By the\ntime I was involved in Ballyhoo, which has to end up being in the 1950s, I guess\nI was (laughs) the last Ballyhoo fall, by that time it was just a good time\npeople having with friends. It was nothing to do with where we, our religious\npart of it.\n\nBERMAN: And how you grew up. Well, I think in the next few minutes you can just\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6930.0,6960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reflect, if you could, a little bit more about where your house was, what the\nstreet was like, was the neighborhood Jewish, those kinds of things.\n\nROMM: I lived on St. Charles Avenue. I lived in the second block down from\nHighland Avenue. A lot of Jewish people lived in that block between Highland\nAvenue and Frederica [Street]. The Willdower(sp) ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6960.0,6990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Apartments, very famous,\nprobably were 99% Jewish in there. People like the Hollands lived there, the\nMike Greenblatts lived there, the Pasamatics--changed their name to Paz--lived\nthere, the Princes, P-R-I-N-C-E, lived there, the Kesslers. I mean, if I sat and\nstarted thinking, I think the entire ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=6990.0,7020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"complex was nothing but Jews. In the\nhouses, we had a few Jewish homeowners coming down. On my street, I think we\nwere the only Jewish people in that block. And I had great neighbors. The most\nfamous football players that every played a Georgia Tech was one of my\nneighbors, Clint Castleberry. He was a little bit older than I was but we played\nball together. Ralph ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7020.0,7050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roberts, his uncle became one of the original members of\nthe FBI. Bob Watson who became a radio personality and then went with Fulton\nFederal lived on my street. We had everybody, it was wonderful.\n\nBERMAN: Did your parents socialize with your neighbors?\n\nROMM: Only basically . . . well, you've got to understand my immediate\nneighbors. A Greek family lived facing my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7050.0,7080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"house on the right. They were part of\nthe original people that started AHEPA, American Hellenic Educational something,\nit's their big, their B'nai B'rith. The man, Mr. Angel, was the brother in-law\nto George Moore of George Moore Ice Cream Company and he worked at George Moore\nIce Cream Company. 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One daughter married an official from the Greek embassy\nin Washington--and they were gorgeous women--and one of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7110.0,7140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them married the fella\nwho started Seven Steers chain of steak places here. Anyhow, we'll get to it\nbecause, great people.\n\nBERMAN: Good, I think we're closing for today. We're going to meet again next\nweek, and I thank you.\n\nROMM: It's been fun.\n\n[End first recording session]\n\n[Begin second recording session]\n\nBERMAN: With Mendel Romm, it's our second recording session. It is January 9,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7140.0,7170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"2006--can't believe it--and he has agreed again to continue his interview for\nthe Esther and Herbert Taylor Jewish Oral History Project of the Breman Museum.\nThank you Mendel. Before we get started Mendel has asked me to reiterate a\ncouple of things I said to him about the importance of oral history. About two\nweeks ago we had a discussion, and I mentioned to him my feelings about both\nthis project and the archives in general, and why it's important that we\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7170.0,7200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"continue to interview people and why we continue to collect materials\ndocumenting the history of Jewish life in our state. So often I run into people\nwho have no idea who some of the real icons were, of the past. They have no idea\nwho started the community, they have no idea who started some of our\norganizations, they have no idea who some of the important women were and their\ncontributions to our ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7200.0,7230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"community. And that's what the archives is here for, to\nprotect the past, so that people who started our community, were the icons of\nour community, will be remembered. And that's the purpose of this interview and\nthat is the purpose of the project and one of the main purposes of this archive.\nSo, thank you for being a part of it, and let's get started.\n\nROMM: Well, it's an honor, and I've enjoyed every minute, and I hope it can go\non for a long time. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7230.0,7260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were kidding, a few days ago, that we'd gotten up to my\nbirth, on the first interview. So, I decided I better make some notes and go\nfrom my birth forward (smiling), see how fast we can do that, and get enough\nthings in there and make it worthwhile. Very important day, this is two days\naway from my birthday. I was born January 11, 1929 here in Atlanta, in the\nstreet in front of Georgia Baptist Hospital maternity ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7260.0,7290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ward. I was in an\nambulance and my mother started having contractions and they couldn't get her in\nthe hospital fast enough for me to be born in the hospital. Dr. Matthews, who\nwas our doctor, and a little side thing . . . it always concerned me because I\nnever asked, because I didn't think about it, why did we use so many Christian\ndoctors, when there were Jewish doctors available? One of the main reasons was,\nback in the early days . . . I shouldn't say the early ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7290.0,7320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"days because originally\nsome of the Jewish doctors, the few that there were, helped start some of the\nhospitals. But at some point in time--it could have been because of the Leo\nFrank case, whatever it may have been--the Jewish doctors couldn't get on the\nstaff of the hospitals here in Atlanta. [They] had talked at one time, while I\nwas growing up, of opening up a Jewish hospital, and that may have been the\npressure that helped get the doctors on staff.\n\nBERMAN: What year was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7320.0,7350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this?\n\nROMM: When all this took place?\n\nBERMAN: When you were born.\n\nROMM: 1929. A very important year. My daddy thought everything was going to be\ngood. (chuckles) I remember my childhood very, very well, I don't know how. We\nlived on St. Charles Avenue, which is a block north of Ponce de Leon and we were\ntwo blocks west of Highland ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7350.0,7380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Avenue. My Uncle Sol Romm and my dad bought this\nduplex on St. Charles. So, I grew up in my early years, first with the Romms\nliving upstairs, and then with the Eli Josephs--I think I mentioned this the\nlast time--and then the William Bremans, and then the Al Garbers. And during\nCarol Nemo's oral history the other day, she talked about living upstairs, when\nshe was born, from Tootsie and Mendel Romm. And I thought ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7380.0,7410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that was really great,\nit all ties together. When I was four years old my folks gave . . . and I had an\nolder brother, Alfred, Charles Alfred Romm. He was three years older than I was,\nand when I was four years old my folks gave me a big tricycle, not a little\ntricycle but a big tricycle. My brother and his friend wanted to ride on it, and\nI said, no, not unless I ride too. So, I sat on the handlebars, came down St.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7410.0,7440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles and the sidewalk was very bumpy from the roots of the trees. And we hit\na bump and we went forward, but my leg got caught in the spoke. So, I broke my\nleg, I tried to walk the couple of doors home. My grandmother was living with\nus, and they called Dr. Copeloff, Dr. Moses Copeloff, who was our family doctor.\nHe came over in a little coupe, convertible coupe, picked me ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7440.0,7470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up and took me to\nPiedmont Hospital on the other side of town. We were met by Dr. Irving Goldstein\nwho was our family dentist and also, quote \"in our extended family.\" He was\nmarried to my aunt's sister.\n\nBERMAN: Who was that, your aunt's sister?\n\nROMM: Helen Goldstein. My aunt was Rosalee Mendel Romm. It's confusing because\nMendel Romm and Rosalee Mendel Romm, you know. Everybody thought I was Mr. H.\nMendel's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7470.0,7500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"grandson, and I'd say, well, I'm in the family, that's what you say.\nAnd I was treated like a king when I broke my leg. My brother thought it was his\nfault, and they couldn't have treated me better. And when we got home from the\nhospital, there was a package waiting for me, and I said, \"How do these people\nknow that I broke my leg?\" that is was something they had sent me, just as a\ngift. I used to go to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7500.0,7530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Highland School in a little wheelchair type thing, while\nmy leg was recuperating, just to visit my brother and walk him home from school.\nAnd that's where I went to kindergarten and through the sixth grade. It was a\ngreat school, and the oral histories I've done, historically in Atlanta, in the\nJewish community, there were numbers of Jewish people of all walks of life, who\nwent to Highland Avenue School. Some of them lived further ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7530.0,7560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out Druid Hills than\nwe did. (static noise on the tape) I'm going to turn this off, hang it up and\nturn it off. I apologize.\n\nBERMAN: That's alright.\n\nROMM: But, the principal, Miss Corrigan--Gertrude Corrigan--how I remember her\nfirst name I don't know, but she was an anti-semite. (static again and phone\nrings) I thought I turned it off, didn't work. You press this down ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7560.0,7590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it goes\noff. (turns off phone) Excuse me, anyway, I got friendly with a Christian boy in\nthe first grade, and our mothers got friendly and they wanted us to stay in the\nsame room through school, and Miss Corrigan saw that we were not. And it was\nvery interesting because there were a number of Jewish kids and the parents were\nall involved in the school and everything else. And Catholics ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7590.0,7620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were much more\ndisliked in Atlanta in the 1920s and 1930s, than Jews. There were fewer of us\nthan there were of them, and the Baptists were very anti-Pope, and we couldn't\nunderstand why she acted this way. But I remember those teachers, my first-grade\nteacher Mrs. Hodges, who lived a couple of blocks away--everybody lived real\nclose--a Miss Lawrence, who lived next door to the school on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7620.0,7650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"North Avenue, the\nschool was located on North Avenue. I have a story to tell about her. We decided\nthe fifth-grade teacher, we were going to put our money together and buy her a\ngift, and I ended up being the treasurer or whatever it was, and we put our\nnickels and dimes together, and I was sent to buy her dishes. I went to the\nAtkins Park 5 \u0026 10 owned by Harry Sugarman, Rabbi Sugarman's uncle. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7650.0,7680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They were so\nglad to see me, they were friends of my family, and we bought Depression Glass\nand gave Miss Lawrence a whole set of Depression Glass. Took me fifty years to\nrealize what a great gift we gave the lady. (chuckles) Our sixth-grade teacher\nwas a lady, Miss Spears, must have been about 4 feet tall, and she used a\nmegaphone. She could be heard two blocks away, she was a real character. But it\nwas a great school, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7680.0,7710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everybody knew everybody. I went to school with Ashers, with\nZabans, I could go down the list. The names are more important when we got to\nJunior High, to Bass Junior High over in Little Five Points, in my class were\nHarriet Zaban and Rene Newman, and myself. We were the only three Jewish kids in\nthe class. And the first year we were there, a girl by the name of Modina\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7710.0,7740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"McDougal--I want her to go down in history--writes Rene a note that we shouldn't\nhave--of course, don't forget this is in the 1930s and Hitler's already\nstarted--this girl writes a note to Rene Newman, 'Rene' and 'Newman' don't sound\nJewish, \"Let's not have anything to do with Harriet Zaban, she's a Jew and she\nhas different blood than we do.\" So, the girls came to me and said, \"What should\nwe do?\" and I said, \"I don't know.\" So, I went ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7740.0,7770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"home, my dad was very involved\nwith ADL and B'nai B'rith, and he and Julian Baine, checked out the father and\nthey let the father know they didn't appreciate his daughter being taught that\nway at home. But my classmates were even nicer, they ostracized this girl--on\ntheir own--they would not have anything to do with her until she apologized to\nHarriet, Rene, and myself.\n\nBERMAN: That's amazing.\n\nROMM: So, there was antisemitism, yet there were good ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7770.0,7800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people also. I went from\nBass Junior High School, to Boys High School, which was back when we only had\nfour choices, in those days: Girls High School, college preparatory high school;\nBoys High School, a college preparatory high school; Tech High, which was in the\nsame building as Boys High School, where Grady High School is now, over on--they\nchanged the name of it now, it's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7800.0,7830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Allen Drive now, is where it's located.\nAnd we got there and we met people we had never known before. I didn't know many\nJewish people, even through junior high school. I'd gone to the Temple for\nSunday School, even though my dad belonged to four congregations. My mother had\nbeen raised in a Reform temple in Birmingham. I asked my dad was he wasn't bar\nmitzvahed and he said he was too poor, he had to work, which made very good\nsense. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7830.0,7860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I understand what happened, unless they were taught at home, or had\nsome kind of very orthodox family, a lot of these kids became real yokels\ngrowing up. My daddy's uncles, Mike and Sam Greenblatt joined the American Army,\nSpanish American War, at age 16 and 15. And they were always, just like country\nbumpkins. I'm ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7860.0,7890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"being very nice about it, but they were not Jewish. In fact, a\nvery interesting point, because one of the pictures we have here at the museum\nis a picture of Benjamin and Bailey Greenblatt's 50th wedding anniversary in\n1916. And all of their children are in the picture, all except one. They had\nfive sons and four daughters, and the sons were very irreligious, --is that, I\nthink that's a proper ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7890.0,7920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"word--they either belonged to the Temple, or if they\ndidn't belong to anything, one of them even married a Baptist and became a\nBaptist. The women all remained very orthodox, and somebody told me [it was]\nbecause they stayed at home longer with their mother, while the daddies had to\ngo out and work, the men had to go out and work. When they were in the Army, I\nthink it's a great aside, in fact I told Maurine, she understood. M. A.\nGreenblatt, Michael A. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7920.0,7950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Greenblatt. Well, his name was just Mike Greenblatt, I\ndon't even know if it was Michael, it was whatever Jewish, Mikel, whatever it\nbe. And, he was called Mike, and when he went in the service, he added an A. and\nSam Greenblatt became Sam R. Greenblatt because they didn't want to be listed as\nNMIs, \"No Middle Initial.\" And I'd asked Uncle Mike one time, what the A stood\nfor, and he told me Angelo, Michael Angelo. And told Maurine, I said, \"Wait a\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7950.0,7980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"second, don't put that down there (chuckles) because I don't know if that's true\nor not.\"\n\nBERMAN: Can I ask you a quick question?\n\nROMM: Yes.\n\nBERMAN: Mike Greenblatt intrigues me because of his . . .\n\nROMM: music . . .\n\nBERMAN: music. Do you have any recollections about the bands he was . . .\n\nROMM: Oh sure, everybody . . .\n\nBERMAN: Can we do a sidebar and . . .\n\nROMM: Every band, even later on in life I'd go to the Georgia/Georgia Tech\nFreshman game which was played for the Scottish Rite Hospital. And there was\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=7980.0,8010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uncle Mike, leading the Shrine Band and there couldn't have been 12 people in\nthe band. But, over the years growing up, I'd hear about the different bands and\nmusic was so important to him. He has credit, and had the copyright for writing\nRamblin Wreck from Georgia Tech . When I was a kid and I'd hear these stories, I\nremembered them. Don't ask me how, God's been very good to me. And he told me he\ntook an ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8010.0,8040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"old Catholic hymn, that went very slow (begins to hum the tune) and he\nspeeded it up, and \"I'm a ramblin wreck from Georgia Tech.\" Some man at Tech\nclaimed that he wrote it, and Mike got the copyright and gave it to Georgia\nTech. And he told me that he invented the derby, putting the derby at the end of\na trombone, he played the trombone. Well, I've seen pictures of old\nmusicians--now he goes back to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8040.0,8070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the 1890s--so, maybe he did it before these other\npeople that I've seen. When he was in the service, he went to the Philippines\nand he played in the band, in the Army band. Uncle Sam went to Cuba, and here at\nthe museum I believe ya'll have some bagels preserved that were sent to him\nthere. Uncle Isadore, I'm going to use these names . . . oh, and I should say,\nSam Greenblatt ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8070.0,8100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"married--and I may have said this the last time . . .\n\nBERMAN: I think you mentioned it.\n\nROMM: I just remembered, I didn't say what Morris Greenblatt's wife's name, she\nwas a Buckman, which was an old German-Jewish family. The Greenblatts, if you\nask them where they're from, you'll get twenty different answers. So, I really\ndon't know where they're from. I tell everybody they're from Knoxville,\nTennessee. (chuckles) They don't ask me where they came from before then\n(chuckles), but I do know, since we started this first ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8100.0,8130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one, my dad's family was\nfrom Lithuania. I have been told within the last two or three weeks that Litvaks\nthink they're better than anybody. I didn't know I was a Litvak until two or\nthree weeks ago. (chuckles) At Boys High School I did very well scholastically.\nI was a member of the H2C - \"Honor for the Sake of Honor,\" like MGM, well, we\nwere H2C, in Latin, those of us who excelled in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8130.0,8160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Latin. I did very well in high\nschool, and most of my professors that I had there were very, very good and they\nremembered me. In fact, I ran into a Mr. Rumble, who was the Principal at Dykes\nHigh School and he said, \"Mendel,\" and this was fifteen, twenty years later, and\nhe said, \"You were my first student. You were the best physics student I ever\nhad.\" Which made me feel ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8160.0,8190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"real good, for him to remember me. (smiles) But, at\nBoys High it was a great school, a lot of Jewish kids there. And they're still\ninvolved in the alumni and everything else. And we even had antisemitism, some\nof it reversed . . .\n\nBERMAN: I want to ask just a quick question. Explain to me again, for the\npurpose of the tape, the difference between, where Boys High School, Girls High\nSchool, Tech High School, and Commercial . . .\n\nROMM: Commercial, I didn't mention ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8190.0,8220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Commercial. Boys High and Tech High were in\nthe same building and had a lot of, they call them trailers now, I don't know\nwhat we called them then.\n\nBERMAN: Is that where Grady [High School] is today?\n\nROMM: Grady, the main building was shared by Boys High and Tech High. The same\nbuilding, we were in the same hallways and we had to hear, \"Join the Jewish Navy\neat your grits and gravy\" (chuckles) in the hallways. They were making fun of\nus, we said things back to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8220.0,8250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them, I never thought it was anything other than\nmobbery, it may have been. Some Jewish boys went to Tech High School, and we\nused to call it a trade school for people who wanted to go to Georgia Tech,\nbecause most of the people from Boys High School went to Harvard and Yale,\nPennsylvania, went to all these schools and the University of Georgia. So, we\nhad that little bit of rivalry even then. And the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8250.0,8280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Boys High/Tech High football\ngames used to have five or ten thousand people come to them. This is back in the\n1930s and early 1940s and it was a big rivalry. But, I've got to tell you,\nCommercial High School was downtown, I believe it was on Pryor Street, I'm not\nsure, I don't want to . . . but I remember the building downtown. People went\nthere to learn how to be typists and stenographers and clerks ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8280.0,8310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and whatever\nbusiness-oriented things. Tech High they learned how to be mechanics or prepare\nto go to technical school. Girls High School was across town near Grant Park.\nIt's off of Memorial Drive and it was an old city stockade before it became a\nschool. And now, as we've progressed, it's a condo, and that happened maybe\ntwenty years ago, it was one of the early condos ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8310.0,8340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"built. While I was at Boys\nHigh, I got interested in Judaism. The only really Jewish education I'd had was\nfrom my grandmothers over the years. I joined AZA, I joined the Morris\nLichtenstein Chapter #518 of AZA and I told you the people that were in that\nchapter, they would be an honor roll of people who became leaders in the\ncommunity. I got active, and I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8340.0,8370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"became the regional Godol, that's a Georgia,\nSouth Carolina, North Carolina area. And then I became the Fifth District Godol,\nthat's Florida and everything up to Washington D. C. I thought I was hot. And\nduring this same time, I was busy in all kinds of things. I was in Boy Scouts,\nand became very active in Boy Scouts, member of Order of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8370.0,8400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Arrow, counselor at\nthe Boy Scout Camp from the time I was 13 until I was 17. And at one time,\nantisemitism, very interesting. I was thinking about becoming a professional\nscouter, that's how involved I was. The scout leaders out there, professionals,\noh, very excited about it. \"Oh, Mendel that's great. You ought to go to this\ntype school, this type school, become a social worker,\" and one of them said to\nme, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8400.0,8430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Mendel, you don't want to be a professional scouter,\" I said, \"Why not?\"\n\"You can only be a professional scouter in New York or Chicago, because they\ndon't have Jews anywhere else in professional scouting.\" And this is in the\nearly 1940s. I already knew enough about what happens in big corporations\nbecause my daddy's best friend, one of his best friends, was Isadore\nKunyanski--graduated from Tech, same as my dad did--he worked for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8430.0,8460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AT\u0026T his\nentire career. People tried to get him to change his name, and he wouldn't do\nit. And they said, \"You'll never go any further.\" So, that corporate thing, Boy\nScouts being a corporation, I learned it early, but it had been going on. The\nfirst executive I met, and I'll see if I can remember his name, was one of the\nheads of Xerox. In fact, when we were in Israel one time, this ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8460.0,8490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gentleman was at\none of the universities that we were trying to help, and he told them that the\nstock value of Xerox, the capital value I guess is the proper word, was worth\nmore than The State of Israel. And that he hoped that we would help these\ntechnical schools where they would progress to do well, and obviously, that did\nhelp. Let me see what I missed here . . . ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8490.0,8520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"oh, then, when I graduated, one other\nvery important thing . . .\n\nBERMAN: I have a quick question. So, you're in high school in the 1940s, were\nsome of your schoolmates going off to war at this point?\n\nROMM: Oh yes, oh yes, early on, they volunteered. People like Bobby Rose, Sid\nand Bess Rose's son, Bess was a Schajay(sp), there were a whole ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8520.0,8550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bunch of people.\nHe volunteered, Merton Shure, all of them went in. They were seniors. Some of\nthem didn't finish the year, or were going to get their diplomas after they went\nin. At 1945, when the war was over, I was 16 and my folks were already worried,\nI was getting close to the age, would I be drafted. When I went off to college,\nfirst thing I did was join ROTC so I wouldn't be an enlisted man when, when and\nif we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8550.0,8580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"might, and I hoped there wasn't going to be a time. I went to [University\nof] Georgia, my dad wanted me to go to [Wharton School of the University of]\nPennsylvania. Pennsylvania was the only school I applied to, to go to college.\nMy dad had a cousin in Philadelphia who was Assistant DA or the DA or something,\nand he got me into Pennsylvania. Well, Al Garber, who was a CPA here and a good\nfriend of ours, wanted me to go to Georgia, and my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8580.0,8610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dad held it against him ever\nsince then, that I went to Georgia, and it made good sense. If I'd gone to\nPennsylvania I would have done very well, but I may not have ever come back to\nAtlanta. That happened very often in the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, and even the\n1950s. Smart young men would go away to Ivy League schools, and they'd never\ncome home. I went to Georgia on the basis I was going to be in the insurance\nbusiness with my dad, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8610.0,8640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd meet all these people, throughout the state who\nwould be involved in state government, business leaders, and I had great\nopportunity to meet them, and associate with them, which I did. And I got to\nGeorgia and in those days, all you had to do was have a diploma from a high\nschool in Georgia, to entitle you to go there. So, the people were not very\nsharp. My fraternity, which is an interesting story too, we were always the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8640.0,8670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"leaders in the grade averages every year.\n\nBERMAN: Which fraternity?\n\nROMM: Tau Epsilon Phi. A side thing with that, my dad was an Alpha Epsilon Pi,\nfrom Georgia Tech. Well, that's two things already. But, he didn't become an\nAEPi until after he graduated. He resented the fact that the Jewish fraternity\nwas not taking anybody except their own kind (smiles), I guess that's the right\nway to put it. So, he helped ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8670.0,8700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"start a new fraternity that would take all Jewish\nkids, and he kind of got active in their alumni thing, like he was active in\neverything else. Can't find anything that he wasn't active in. When I went to\nGeorgia, instead, I got involved, I joined the fraternity, I ought to finish\nthat part of it. The AEPis, Mr. Harry Loaf was the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8700.0,8730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"advisor to the AEPis, and he\ntold me, my daddy was crying, literally crying because I wasn't going to go\nAEPi. Well, I hadn't told anybody what I was going to do. And first thing I did,\nI rushed back to the hotel and called my dad up. He said, \"Tell him to go to\nhell, you do whatever you want to do.\" So, that gave them a strike, and I knew\nall of them. They were all friends of mine, Joel Fye, Stanley Rensloe, I mean, I\ncan name all these people who were AEPis. And the PhiEps, similar sort of thing,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8730.0,8760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bobby Lipschutz and Morris Macy and they were great friends of mine. They told\nme, and then they probably called me \"Junior,\" I don't know, \"You've got to join\nthe PhiEps because you can't go home and face your family.\" Well, yes, a lot of\nmy family were PhiEps. Dan Ehrlich, Milton Romm, all of them. But, I'm there on\nmy own, and there were only ten of them, eight or ten of them, and they were out\nof school, they were veterans who came back home from Russia. Do I want to join\na ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8760.0,8790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fraternity with eight other people that I know? The TEPs had a young man\nthere, a returning war veteran, by the name of Marvin Shoob, who later married\nDenise Paradies, moved to Atlanta became a federal judge. He was so sharp, and\nhe had me mesmerized, and I was so happy I joined this fraternity, and we ended\nup being the largest of the three Jewish fraternities. We had people who were\nReform, people who were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8790.0,8820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Conservative, people who were Orthodox, people, Jewish\npeople who had no religion. They came from every little town in Georgia, they\ncame from New York. We were a group of people that learned how to live with each\nother. And we had some successes too, and I'll give my partner, Jerry Mendel, he\nand I opened a little business at the TEP house, we had a food stand. People\ncould buy things and sign their names. It was on the honor system, I think\npeople paid us more ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8820.0,8850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than what they took. And when John Galambos, who is now a\ndoctor here in Atlanta, came to this country from Hungary, a freedom fighter,\nand didn't speak English, the B'nai B'rith Women paid his tuition, my fraternity\ngave him room and board and Jerry and I gave him this little concession so he\ncould have some spending money. And we said, \"We will be part of the people that\nwill contribute to the progress of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=8850.0,8880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"medicine.\" And he went to Emory and became a\nvery renowned doctor. But, while I was at school, I became a member of Biftad,\nFreshman Honors Society, which kind of shocked me, and I got involved, through\nmy fraternity, the inter-fraternity council. I ended up being the treasurer of\nthe inter-fraternity council, which, the way I thought, was a big honor. 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So, he went back to Savannah and he went in the\ngrocery business with his ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9030.0,9060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"folks and built a chain and about ten or fifteen years\nago he sold out to Kroger for many millions of dollars. So, I told him last time\nI saw him, \"You sure are lucky you didn't go to medical school.\" (smiles) But,\nthese were interesting people.\n\nBERMAN: Did the soldiers have a hard time adjusting back to civilian life?\n\nROMM: Oh, I don't think so. I don't think so. Most of them were very\nserious-minded and wanted to get on with their lives. A lot of them, like Dave\nEisenberg and Mickey, who ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9060.0,9090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were well-known in our community, he needed to go\nahead and get out. Get that law degree and practice law. They were raising\nfamilies already.\n\nBERMAN: Did they talk about their war experiences much?\n\nROMM: I don't think so. I don't recall. I would have remembered if they had.\nBut, it's the sort of thing that, I took ROTC like I said, had three choices of\nROTC, infantry, air force, or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9090.0,9120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"army. And my cousin Melton had been wounded very\nbad in Europe, had most of his insides shot away. And I didn't want to be an\ninfantry officer, he was only in combat one day.\n\nBERMAN: What was his last name?\n\nROMM: Romm. So, I didn't want to be in the infantry. And I'd always heard that\nthe Air Force, back in the 1940s, you'd be in the Air Force and they'd decide\nthey needed some infantrymen, they'd pull them out of the Air Force, it wasn't a\nseparate thing, early on. 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And I became friendly with Majors\nand Lieutenant Colonels, I played bridge with them, I'd go out to eat with them.\nI was smart enough to know to hold the doors for them and let them go in, I\nmean, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9210.0,9240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I played the game the way it was supposed to play. And I got friendly with\npeople, we were bringing in people from National Guards, from all over the\ncountry, into Camp Rucker. And we were the headquarters company, and I was the\nMess Officer, I was every kind of officer you could be. And got friendly with\nthese people from Third Army Headquarters here in Atlanta. 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But went all the way up, approved all the way up until\nit got to Washington, and they sent it directly back and said, and a couple of\nother people, \"If you want them to go to Korea as an infantry officer, send them\nto Fort Benning.\" So, meantime, some of these officers from headquarters told\nme, \"You know, nobody knows it, but the Fourth Infantry Division,\" which is in\nFort Benning, \"is getting ready to go to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9270.0,9300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Europe,\" It was a big secret. \"Apply to\ngo there to be in the armored division and learn better about being an armored\nofficer.\" So, I went to Fort Benning, and went to Europe.\n\nBERMAN: Wow.\n\nROMM: And got a great . . . only thing wrong with being in Europe, and we were\non border patrol nine months out of the year. 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And the troops didn't know ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9360.0,9390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that. Those of us who got involved in that type\nthing. About a month later, Life magazine had a big spread about the battle plan\nfor Europe and what . . . we were the expendable people there. It's really\ninteresting, you learn.\n\nBERMAN: Did you travel around Europe while you were there?\n\nROMM: Oh, took all my leave. Went to Paris [France] for the first time, while I\nwas in the service, went to Amsterdam [Netherlands], for the first time. Went to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9390.0,9420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the German Alps, Garmisch [Germany] while I was there. Went to Berlin [Germany]\nseveral times. I got around.\n\nBERMAN: How did it feel, being Jewish, right after the war and being in Germany?\n\nROMM: I didn't worry about that so much because I knew what we were doing,\nAmericans. We, whatever happens . . . in Vietnam, I saw something last night,\nagain, about a man being honored. 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And she got very\nfriendly and I asked her, I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9450.0,9480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said, \"What did you think of what Hitler did to the\nJews?\" And she said, \"Leutnant Romm,\" --\"Leutnant\" being \"Lieutenant\"--Romm, she\nsaid, \"it was terrible. But we didn't know what was going on.\" And I found out,\nthey all use this same story. And she gave a personal thing, there was a Jewish\nboy who was a friend of hers. Lived on her street, and she came home one day and\nhe wasn't there. 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A retired British soldier, who was a\nguide in Berlin, one day he sees some men ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9510.0,9540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sitting on a park bench, just\nkibitzing. \"Oh, those dirty Jews, from East Germany.\" \"What? What did you say?\"\n\"Yes, they're black marketeers, they're making all this money. Look at them\nsitting over there, enjoying . . .\" I said, \"Sir, if they are, they're entitled\nto every penny that they get.\" And somebody said, \"You know, the Lieutenant's\nJewish,\" and, oh, he started apologizing. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9660.0,9690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I became much more tolerant and much more concerned\nwhile I was in the service.\n\nBERMAN: I have a couple of questions about that. One, we have this great\nphotograph of you, going off to war.\n\nROMM: (chuckles)\n\nBERMAN: And in your knapsack is a Confederate Flag. How proud were you of your\nSouthern heritage?\n\nROMM: Oh, very much so. 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Growing up, we'd go up east,\nto the beaches, to Atlantic ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9720.0,9750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"City or to Long Island in the summers. \"Where you\nfrom?\" \"I'm from Atlanta, Georgia.\" \"Oh, everybody's from Atlanta, Georgia,\" and\nit was true, you could have been from Marietta, you could have been from Rome,\nAthens, \"Where you from?,\" you're from Atlanta. So, later on I started, \"Where\nyou from?\" \"I'm from Sandy Springs,\" (smiling) that was where our country home\nwas, \"I'm from Sandy Springs, Georgia.\" And then, later on, when [Jimmy] Carter\nwas president, they'd say, \"Where you from?\" I'd say, \"I'm from a little town\nthat's north of Plains.\" I mean, you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9750.0,9780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gotta have fun with it. But, I love this\nstate. I loved everything about it from the time I was born going on. I do need\nto tell you one thing I skipped in this thing, it's very important.\n\nBERMAN: That's OK.\n\nROMM: When I was six years old, my brother Alfred died. He was nine. That was in\n1935, December of 1934-January 1935, right about that time. They had bounced me\naround, boarded me out, he had pneumonia, and they didn't want me in the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9780.0,9810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"house,\nwe had a two-bedroom house. I stayed with people like the L. I. Kaplans, Barbara\nKaplan who was my brother's age, became Barbara Muldow(sp). All these people\nfrom my childhood, Charlotte Newman, who became I don't remember the name, Bunny\nNewman who became Bunny Sinner. 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I went over to the Sol Romms' house and I woke up the\nnext morning, I was in the house alone except for the butler and the cook, the\nmaid. \"Oh, poor little Junior\" \"Your mother wants you to get dressed and come\nhome.\" So, they dressed me and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9840.0,9870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the chauffer drove me over there, and we couldn't\npark on our street. There were cars up and down two blocks of St. Charles\nAvenue. We parked a block and a half away and we walked down there. And when we\ngot about, maybe halfway there, I heard this horrible wailing.\n\nBERMAN: It was your mother?\n\nROMM: And I got there, and all these people grabbed me, there must have been 150\npeople at our house. All the furniture's out of the house, and everything. My\ndaddy was a very popular man and my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9870.0,9900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mother. Several rabbis, Dr. Marx was there,\nRabbi Epstein was there, I believe Rabbi Geffen was there, all these people were\nthere. They grabbed me and took me in the back to my mother and she grabbed me\nin her arms, screaming and takes me into the dining room, and my brother is laid\nout in a bassinet, for a child. And she sticks my head in there and \"Tell your\nbrother good bye.\" I've never forgotten it.\n\nBERMAN: I don't blame you, I don't blame ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9900.0,9930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you.\n\nROMM: Anyhow, let's get to better things. Let's get to my meeting Anta.\n\nBERMAN: I have a question. I'm not there yet. I want to talk a little bit more\nabout the war, and really being a southerner.\n\nROMM: You mean about the . . . it was kidding with people, it was kidding with\npeople. It was pride of where you're from. If they could have worn New York\nYankee hats they would have worn them, or if they had had a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9930.0,9960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yankee flag and\nthought about it, they would have had one. It meant nothing. I wasn't\ndisrespectful of anybody.\n\nBERMAN: No, I realize that, and I think it's important for history's sake to\nunderstand that the Jewish community here in Atlanta was proud of who they were.\nBut I also think, what I'd like to understand, and I hope, and I think our\nresearchers are looking for some understanding . . . you said you became more\ntolerant while you were in the Army, of other ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9960.0,9990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people. But, what was it like\nbeing Jewish, and being proud of your heritage, but also seeing the separate\ndrinking fountains and the separate places to enter buildings. What was that\nlike, and how did you feel about integration as things started to change?\n\nROMM: As a kid . . . I'll get to the part about the integration part of it. Even\nas a kid, I resented the fact that there were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=9990.0,10020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"separate water fountains. And the\nmain point, I was a very small, under nourished child who they tried to feed.\nAnd I had a nurse maid, Ruby Nell, and Ruby Nell, the only way she could get me\nto eat was to take a bite and then take another biteful and give it to me, so,\nwe used the same fork. And my father's mother, Orthodox, moved in our house in\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10020.0,10050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Depression. She and three of my daddy's, one was his sister and two\nhalf-sisters, my brother and I and my parents. So, there were eight of us,\nsometimes nine of us, in a two-bedroom, one bath house. My grandmother resented\nthe fact, and said something to my mother in Yiddish, one of the few words I\nknew was who she was talking about. \"That's not right for him to use the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10050.0,10080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"same\nfork.\" So, I knew there was prejudice even then, because we didn't have it. This\nlady was part of our family. I don't think I ever had a prejudiced bone, and I\nnever thought my dad did until Leb's was having sit-ins when people were trying\nto go to Leb's and they were boycotting it because he wouldn't serve African\nAmericans. And my daddy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10080.0,10110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"went through the line and I was so upset with him. I\nwouldn't go in there. But he was raised as a redneck southerner. Even though he\ndid wonderful things and was involved. But he was like all of his friends, I\ndon't know many of them that cared and got involved. I got involved. Early on at\nthe Temple, I was part of a group that tried to mix more with ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10110.0,10140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blacks. I came up\nwith an idea. I was a genius, I really was. How did we as Jews, and other\nEuropeans who came to this country, how did they become good Americans? The\nsettlement houses in New York and Chicago, and there was probably one in Boston,\nI don't know. That's how they taught the girls how to sew--they may have known\nhow to sew--taught them hygiene, taught them dancing, taught them music, all\nthese things, English, taught them all these things they didn't learn at ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10140.0,10170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"home.\nMy idea was, we were getting in the 1950s and early 1960s, were getting Black\npeople from all over the South, coming to Atlanta. Some of them had never seen a\ntoilet before, and they were nice people, but they just, no education. So, I\ncame up with the idea that the Temple and the First Congregational Church, which\nis on Courtland Street at Auburn Avenue, that we would go ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10170.0,10200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"together and be a\nteam, and we would start a settlement house at the worst public housing in\nAtlanta. At the time, it was Perry Homes. And boy, we were all excited. We were\ngoing to give these kids dance lessons, we were going to teach them cooking, we\nwere going to teach them all kinds of things. Well, we went to a big meeting,\nthe two groups, and the pastor's son, who I knew, was a tenant of mine--I'll\nexplain that part of it too--got up and said,and they were very light-complected\npeople. Most of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10200.0,10230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"these people in that church, their backgrounds, they were\ndescendants of slaves who, their masters had had these children. And this young\nguy got up, very light-complected, he says, \"We can't do that. You think they're\ngoing to let these white people go out there\" --and this is when we're already\ngetting Black Power and everything--\"You think they're going to let these white\npeople, they're not even going to let us come out there.\" And I didn't think\nfast enough. I should have said, well, let's put up the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10230.0,10260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"money and hire Black\npeople to do what we want to do. But that would have speeded things up so much,\nif you'd taken the lowest part of the community and helped raise them. And\nthat's part of why I was rich, or got rich, and why I lost all my money. I\ndecided I did not like, I'd invested in a couple of real estate projects,\nshotgun-type apartments in Atlanta, and I didn't like them. I was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10260.0,10290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"embarrassed to\nhave anybody know that I owned, what I considered was going to be a slum\nshortly. I got involved in a real estate deal with some very wealthy people.\nNames like Nat Sandler, Dave Sinner they were Sinner Chemical Company, Al Garber\nI mentioned before, his brother in-law Herb Nadel, Sam Perling from Georgia . .\n. all these people from very, substantial business people. We went into a big\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10290.0,10320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"deal with the Vice President of A\u0026P (grocery store), we were going to buy the\nland A\u0026P was going to build their new headquarters for the south on. And\neverybody was buying 10%. I didn't know I was the only one buying 10% and my\ndaddy bought 10%. All the rest of them divided three-ways, two-ways, and we've\ngone in the same. Well, when the mayor, Ivan Allen, put up what was known as the\nPayton barricade, to stop Blacks from moving toward ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10320.0,10350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cascade [Road]. It didn't\nstay up very long, our property was adjoining it and to help him get out of the\nbox, I agreed to rezone the big piece of property that we owned. We didn't have\nA\u0026P anymore, going there. Rezoning it for houses, apartments, and some\ncommercial and everything else. And I envisioned it as being Lenox Square on the\nwest side of town and had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10350.0,10380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"done some studies about the property and everything\nelse. We had as high a per capita income in that Cascade, well, before Cascade\nHeights, on that west side, these people were living in mansions, they were\nrich. We had a lot of rich Black people in this town. And I wanted to build some\napartments that their children, when they came back from college, would live in,\nclose to their parents, that were nice, as nice as what white people lived in in\nBuckhead. And I picked ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10380.0,10410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a group of apartments that all the society kids that I\nknew, they all moved there, it's across from the Peachtree Presbyterian Church.\nThey've torn them down to put more parking lots in. But, that's where all the\nyoung society people moved. And I wanted to do the same thing on the west side\nfor these upper-class Blacks. I used to take people, lenders and everything\nelse, out there. We'd ride through ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10410.0,10440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"neighborhoods and I'd say \"These are Black\nhomes.\" \"Oh no, you're kidding.\" I'd say, \"Oh, yes they are.\" And they'd see a\nwhite person or a Black person out in the yard doing yard work and they were\nhired help. It was hard for them to understand it. Well, I didn't finish the\nfirst 40 units, and I had a waiting list of 200 people wanting to move in. So, I\nkept building. I ended up with 1,000 units. And two things happened to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10440.0,10470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me. My\neyes got too big and I got a little greedy, and the oil boycott came and the\npower company raised their rates $50.00 a month, immediately, for the increase,\nI couldn't raise the rents that fast. And I had 1,000 units at that point, and\n$50,000 a month didn't take long, and I was building some things. I built an\noffice building, I was involved in a whole bunch of things. And in real estate,\nyou can go up and down, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10470.0,10500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and when I lost everything, the government thought I was\nhiding millions of dollars somewhere, and they had these leans, and you can't\nbankrupt on a lean, on a federal lean. And I couldn't get a job because they'd\ngarnished . . .\n\nBERMAN: What year was this?\n\nROMM: 1975 is when it started, 1976 when I went bankrupt. And my lawyers tried\nto outsmart the government, we were a little bit ahead of Donald Trump. They\nwanted a Chapter 11, we're going to reorganize, we're going to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10500.0,10530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"force the lenders\nto work with us. Only had one lender, it was the Georgia Federal Savings and I\nshouldn't have had, I knew better than to have that, but Colonel Duval painted\nthis beautiful picture to me of what we were going to do with their backing and\nwhat I was going to accomplish. And I got involved with the Citizens Trust Bank,\nhere in Atlanta, it was a black institution. And I actually got conned by one of\ntheir vice presidents who was a city ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10530.0,10560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"councilman, and borrowed a half a million\ndollars from them, and found out that I wasn't borrowing the money from them, it\ncame from a numbers racket man, through the bank. They were laundering the money\nfor him, and it was very unpleasant, the whole thing, and I had to get that\nmoney paid back. I had to sell everything I owned to pay them back, and it made\nit very hard, even though I had people . . . and I couldn't raise the rents fast\nenough. I had people, even with 1,000 units I had 1,000 people wanting to live\nthere. And these were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10560.0,10590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people, and that was during the 1960s and early 1970s, we\nhad people moving to Atlanta, who were federal government employees, professors,\nprofessional people of all kinds, and I had the nicest place in Atlanta, if you\nwanted to live quote \"with your own kind\" was the best place in Atlanta, even\nthough we were beginning to integrate. And some wanted to be the first one to\nlive in Buckhead and everything else, but most of them ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10590.0,10620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wanted to be close to\ntheir families and their roots. And what we were doing was all first-class. I\nused Frank Smith, a landscape man, to do the yards. Nobody had done anything out\nthat way. Most of the people on the north side, when they did their landscaping\ndidn't do that kind of landscaping. I wanted a place, and I had ulterior motive.\nI had enough land leftover that I wanted to build office ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10620.0,10650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"buildings--I was way\nahead of my time--shopping center, owned by Blacks. I got people like Bob Gerson\nto agree to be a mentor to some Black person wanted to go into the men's\nclothing business. And I was going around, asking my friends, if we can get\npeople to go into these businesses, if I can build . . . I didn't want a strip\ncenter, I wanted something that was first class. And I tried to get the Atlanta\nLife Insurance Company to build their home office building out there, because I\nsaid, \"You ought to come out here, you're ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10650.0,10680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"building on Auburn Avenue, you're\nstaying second-class,\" even though they've got a great place. \"Move up to\nPeachtree, Five Points, or move on the west side, and you'll be number one on\nthe west side.\" And the vice president sounded like Amos and Andy, I'm talking\nlike \"Oh, you're like all the other Jews and Greeks, trying to steal our\nproperty on Auburn Avenue.\" I said, \"Sir, I don't want any of your property. I'm\nwilling to give your company two acres of land to build your ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10680.0,10710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"home office\nbuilding on. You'll make me millions of dollars by coming out there.\" Couldn't\nget through to him. Even though, when I took, trying to salvage my things, I\ntook some townhouses that I had, and I started one of the first condo projects\nin Atlanta. I was selling two-bedroom condos with one bath, three-bedrooms\ntwo-baths. The two-bedrooms were going for $18,000 the three-bedrooms were going\nfor ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10710.0,10740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"$21,000. And this vice president of Citizens Trust, his daughter bought one\nof them. And Jessie Hill, who is a very big person in the black community even\ntoday, he now owns about seven or eight of them. So, it wasn't a bad outfit, and\nat that price, I've had people come to me since then. One man, very good friend\nof mine, he wanted to thank me. I made him, $70,000 - $80,000 he bought one, and\nyears later, after he paid the loan off and everything, he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10740.0,10770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sold it and had all\nthat money for his retirement. It was, it gave me a boost. It really did.\n\nBERMAN: Yes.\n\n[pause in the tape]\n\nROMM: I got out of the Army in 1952, came back to Atlanta to go into the\ninsurance business with my mother and father who were my partners. My daddy made\nme a partner of this insurance agency. That's why I could afford to spend money\nlike the Colonels, and even the Generals when I was a First Lieutenant and\nCaptain, I was right ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10770.0,10800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there with them. Came home, and I wasn't home two weeks\nbefore my dad got sick. He had a bleeding ulcer, and it's again, part of what I\nwas talking about doctors. Even, this is 1952, Jewish doctors having a hard time\ngetting on the staffs of the hospitals. A young doctor had come back and my\ndaddy was going to be his first patient. Called him up, \"Oh please come over,\"\nand he came over and he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10800.0,10830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"says, \"Mr. Romm, you have a bleeding ulcer, you need to\ngo to the hospital.\" And he said--and I won't use the doctor's name because he\ngot too upset about it--Dad said, \"Where can you take me?\" \"I can take you, the\nonly hospital I can go to is Crawford Long.\" Well, in the 1950s, Crawford Long\nwas really in terrible shape. 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They arranged for me to have a date with her,\nsince I'm coming to--Intercove, Interolen--her father is one of the blueberry\nspecialists ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=10980.0,11010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from Memphis, Tennessee. They're from Knoxville originally, wedding\nwas in Knoxville. Her younger sister is Marsha Epstein, Dr. Jacob Epstein's\nwife. So, we go up there and I'm supposed to have a date with this girl with the\nponytail, and I made fun of her when I saw it and I said, \"I'm not dating this\ngirl.\" So, I switched dates, my cousin, dated Marsha, the younger ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11010.0,11040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sister, dated\nAnta and I dated Marsha. Riding up to the club in Chattanooga, I said, why did I\ndo that? I'm in love with that girl in the front seat.\n\nBERMAN: Chuckles.\n\nROMM: So, I chased her for two years, and finally, she was [University of]\nAlabama, she went to the University of Texas, and I called her and gave her an\nultimatum, \"We're either getting married within the next 90 days, or I'm going\nto find somebody. I'm getting married.\" All my friends were married by then.\n(smiles) So, I was 25, Anta was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11040.0,11070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"19, and we got married in Dothan, Alabama where\nher dad was the president of the temple. They were from Marianna, Florida which\nis a little town south of Dothan, 35 miles south of Dothan. But the towns like\nDothan, Jews come from Eufaula, Alabama even, I don't think they even have a\ntemple there anymore. From Eufaula they either went to Columbus [Georgia],\nDothan, and from all these little towns these people came. And we had to have\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11070.0,11100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wedding in Dothan, couldn't have it in their home or in the hotel in\nMarianna because they had a retail store, they only closed it on Rosh Hashana\nand Yom Kippur, one day each, nothing else. They did close Christmas day. But,\nthey were not going to close on a Saturday to have a wedding. So, we had the\nwedding in the temple in Dothan and we had overflowing crowds. They had to\ninvite everybody that went to their little ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11100.0,11130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"department store, plus all the Jews\nthey knew. And we had 150 Jewish people came from Atlanta to our wedding. The\nreception was at the Houston Hotel in downtown Dothan, and there must have been\n500 - 600 people there, plus, my uncle was going out, my mother's brother was\ngoing out in the lobby and telling people, \"Come on in, my nephew got married,\ncome on in to the party!\" (chuckles) And so, we had all these people coming into\nthe party. It was a hell of a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11130.0,11160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"party. I was lucky to marry Anta. The only thing\nthat she did wrong then, she does a lot of things wrong . . .\n\nBERMAN: (chuckles)\n\nROMM: . . . when she hears this she'll (chuckles), but, I didn't know she didn't\nknow how to drive. How many 19-year old girls, especially in the south, do you\nknow didn't know how to drive? But they had somebody drive her wherever she\nneeded to go and when she started dating, the fellas took her. We were on a trip\ndriving to Acapulco [Mexico], from Dothan, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11160.0,11190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alabama . . .\n\nBERMAN: (interruption of the interview, people talking in the background) Excuse\nme, taping.\n\nROMM: We were driving her dad's brand new Buick, and I didn't realize she didn't\nknow how to drive, it was horrible. We could only go 50 or 100 miles a day, we'd\nhave to stop, maybe a little longer than that. We stayed in Houston [Texas] an\nextra couple of days, stayed in New Orleans [Louisiana] an extra couple of days,\non our way. We were gone for seven weeks on our honeymoon, because I didn't want\nto drive home. (smiles). I got down to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11190.0,11220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Acapulco, enough was enough. (chuckles) I\nwanted to dump the car in the Pacific [Ocean] and fly home. Anyhow, we got home,\nAnta was carsick part of the way home, and we went to a dinner party of people\ngiving us parties. And Anta was nauseated, didn't feel good, and one of my\ncousins said, \"Anta, have you ever been to a gynecologist?\" and she said, \"No.\"\n\"Well, you need to go. It sounds to me like you're pregnant.\" Well, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11220.0,11250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"definitely\nshe was pregnant, and nine months later, we were at the Mayfair Club--and I'll\nhave to tell my experience at the Mayfair Club--having a family dinner, and\nMandle Zaban, Erwin Zaban's father comes over and he says, my daddy's nickname\nwas Monk, \"Monk, what are ya'll celebrating?\" my daddy says, \"They've been\nmarried nine months today and the baby hasn't come,\" (laughs) that was a big\ncelebration. But, we had little girl, on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11250.0,11280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"January the 15th. We got married in\n1994 and she was born in 1995, and the next . . .\n\nBERMAN: Not 1995.\n\nROMM: Excuse me, (smiles) 1954 we got married, 1955 she was born. 1956 her\nbrother, Tracy . . . my folks wanted it to be Mendel Romm the third. My wife\ndidn't want him to be the third, and we named him Mendel Tracy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11280.0,11310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Romm, which they\nwere satisfied with, and he became Tracy. Then, that was in 1956. In 1958, we\nhad a daughter Amy, and then in 1960 we had a son on Christmas Day and his name,\nhe was named by his older brother, who was only three at the time, three or\nfour. \"If his name is not Chip, I'm running away from home.\" (chuckles) So, we\nnamed him Charles ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11310.0,11340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Brian Romm, called him Chip, and had Chip put in his birth\ncertificate. But, my kids are terrific. My oldest daughter, Lisa has a son 26,\nshe married a fella named Ken Kepler, who converted to Judaism. He was in the\npharmaceutical business. I guess that's what they call people who do drugs, sell\ndrugs. And Anta and I didn't like him, and our mothers, when she turned ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11340.0,11370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"18 after\nthree years of psychiatrists trying to get rid of her boyfriend, they were going\nto live together and I gave them a house to live in. My mother and Anta's mother\ngot very upset that we were letting them \"live in sin.\" So, they got married,\nand a couple of years later they had a son, Adam, who is a very fine young man\nhere in Atlanta, 26 years old. Our son, Tracy, who was a brilliant kid, went to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11370.0,11400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lovett School . . . oh, and Lisa, I didn't put this through, she refused to go\nto private school, and we ended up having to, because of this boyfriend, we had\nto send her to Galloway School to get her out of high school. Tracy was an honor\nstudent at Lovett School and he went to Brandeis [University] and graduated with\nhonors, and he married a very orthodox Jewish girl, Aviva Jill Turk, T-U-R-K,\nwho I've told you, and maybe not on the tape, but I will, at ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11400.0,11430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"39 is a freshman at\nYale medical school. She graduated a Yeshiva high school at 13 in Brooklyn, so\nshe must have had some kind of Jewish background. But, they have no religion,\nthey're not even teaching their children religion, and it upsets me very much\nbecause the children are very, very smart. And it tickled me that our\nsecond-oldest grandchild, their son . . . their ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11430.0,11460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"names are Iyah I-Y-A-H, which\nthey told me means Godly. I didn't know that, somebody had to tell me. Yamema,\nwhich means peace. Forest, I remember she told me, she woke up and she saw the\nforest and she named the baby Forest. All the children were born at home, her\nhusband assisted her. She had a midwife who assisted her, came once or twice.\nShe's a midwife, and she's delivered by this time, 1,000 babies. She's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11460.0,11490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very\nwell-known throughout the country. She's president of the U.S. Herbalists\nSociety, she's very much into alternative medicine. And our son, who has a\ndoctorate in education, she made him quit school business and they homeschool\ntheir children, so she could go out anytime anybody needed to deliver babies.\nAnd she writes books, she's written five books and she signed a contract for\nfive more. She doesn't know if she's going to have enough time while she's going\nto ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11490.0,11520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"medical school or not. I'm sure she'll find time. But the youngest child is\nNaomi, which is a pretty good name, I'm glad we got one name. (chuckles). And\nIyah may be Jewish, I-Y-A-H may be Jewish, meaning Godly, I don't know. I\nthought it was Arabic. But, these kids are so un-Jewish, the first year they\ncame to our house to light Hanukkah candles, they wanted to blow them out. (laughs)\n\nBERMAN: (laughs)\n\nROMM: I got very upset, I realized they need a little ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11520.0,11550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"education. Our second\nchild, Amy, married Robert Arogeti, and that's an old Atlanta family. It's very\ninteresting because I have always, same thing even in school. When you're\ngrowing up, it's very hard to know, and if you don't hear anything at home, that\n\"Oh, we don't have anything to do with these people.\" My daddy liked everybody.\nThey were his clients, in most cases, but we were friendly people. When I\nstarted working for The Federation as a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11550.0,11580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"collector, I got to meet a lot of\nSephardic Jews, soliciting them. You know, they were Jews! In fact, Hitler\nshould have taught us one thing, that we're all the same. But they were\nstand-offish. Well, my son-in-law Robert Arogeti is a wonderful person. And they\nhave three children, James who is 19 who started Tulane [University] for one day\nin August and had to come home because they got ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11580.0,11610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"washed out, he's going back in a\ncouple of weeks. A daughter Carley who is 16, and she transferred from public\nschool, I don't remember the name of it, out in . . . half the kids are Jewish.\nShe transferred to the Weber School, she claimed she wasn't getting enough out\nof the other school. And the youngest one, Liza, is a sophomore at that school .\n. .\n\nBERMAN: Riverview?\n\nROMM: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11610.0,11640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Riverwood? Does Riverwood sound like it?\n\nBERMAN: Yes.\n\nROMM: Yes, Riverwood. Then our youngest child, Chip, who was born Christmas day,\n\"Chipmus\" day, had a drug problem as a youngster. I found out as I started\nworrying about, what are we doing wrong, and everything else, and Anta and I\nstarted going to a Jewish support group Rabbi Feldman had. I finally knew what\nto do, I stood up and said, \"My name's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11640.0,11670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mendel Romm and I am an enabler,\" which\nwas a breakthrough, it really was. And I realized I'd been helping this kid. He\nwas the best in the world and worst in the world.\n\nBERMAN: Yes.\n\nROMM: He got picked up by the police one night, doing nothing wrong except being\nin the wrong place. He was driving out to Bankhead Highway and got stopped by\nthe police. If they'd caught him coming back, he would have had drugs in his\ncar. They got him going the other ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11670.0,11700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"way, what's this white boy doing out here, he\nhas to be. . . they locked him up for a short period of time. He decided he\nneeded to get some help. So, I called and the finest drug place in America is\nsupposed to be Hazeltine, in Minnesota. When I told him I've got a place you can\ngo, he didn't want to go there, it's too cold in Minnesota. He wanted to go\nwhere it was warm, and he saw something on television about Hawaii, (chuckles)\nthere was a drug treatment center in Hawaii. So, I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11700.0,11730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"called a friend in Hawaii,\nand he said, \"He doesn't want to go there, it's worse than a concentration\ncamp,\" he said, \"he doesn't want to go there.\" So, Eddie Elson told me about a\ndoctor in New York who had started the Phoenix Project which is a very big drug\nrehab program in New York. And I called him up and he said, \"I've sent my\ndaughter out to Arizona. A wonderful place, you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11730.0,11760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ought to see if they'll take\nyour son.\" So, I called up, Chip and I flew out there, he's the one that, he\nwanted to go. They made him pledge that he'd stay there at least 100 days,\nbefore he'd leave. He couldn't call us, he couldn't write, we couldn't write\nhim, or anything else. I paid the fee, and they had taken him somewhere to meet\nsome people, and I said, \"I'd like to tell him good-bye,\" and they said, \"Oh,\nno. He's ours now.\" So, he stayed there ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11760.0,11790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for over three months, and he left with\nno money, didn't call us or anything else, left there. Hitchhiked to Las Vegas\nand learned very, I don't know how kids learn so fast, learned how to get a Pell\ngrant. He was learning to be a dealer, casino dealer. Not a drug dealer (laughs)\nI think he'd learned early on. 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So, they pack up,\nshe's pregnant by that time again, got a little tiny infant, two years old, and\nher older daughter, four or five years old, and they take off for New Zealand.\nWell, they live there for about a year, year and a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507#t=11880.0,11910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/52058/file/124507/transcript/32840/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"half, and had a second child\nthere, and four months later, Chip drops dead. We thought it had to do with\ndrugs, but the autopsy, massive heart attack. They said nothing to do with\ndrugs, which made us feel some better.\n\nBERMAN: How old was he?\n\nROMM: Thirty-three when he died. 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