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Jeanne Wisebram joins the interview.\u003c/p\u003e (general)","\u003cp\u003eJoshua Henry Wisebram was born in Barnesville, Georgia on August 9, 1923. He was the oldest of two children and only son of Elijah Wisebram (1892-1984) and Nora Rice Wisebram (1901-1960), both Eastern European immigrants. Henry’s father had come to Barnesville in 1919 and opened a department store, Wisebram’s, which would anchor the downtown Barnesville business district for decades.\u003cbr\u003e \u003cbr\u003eGrowing up, the Wisebrams were one of the only Jewish families in town. They regularly traveled to nearby Atlanta to attend synagogue services and visit with his mother’s family. Henry became an Eagle Scout and attended Gordon High School and Junior College, where he participated in ROTC. He went on to enroll at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, but his studies were interrupted when World War II began. Henry spent over four years serving in the US Army, assigned to the China, Burma, India theater. He achieved the rank of Major at just 20 years old and later retired from the Reserves as a Lieutenant Colonel. \u003cbr\u003e \u003cbr\u003eAfter returning from military service, Henry resumed his studies at UNC and in 1946, married Jeanne Doris Witt (1926-2010). He had met Jeanne while training at Camp Benning in Columbus, Georgia and the two corresponded throughout his deployment. After completing his degree, Henry and Jeanne settled back in Barnesville, where they raised two children, Steve and Diane. Henry joined the family business. Henry drove his family to Atlanta most weekends so they could attend services at Ahavath Achim synagogue and support the Atlanta Falcons as season ticket holders. \u003cbr\u003e \u003cbr\u003eHenry was deeply involved in his community, serving as president of the Chamber of Commerce and Rotary Club, commander of the American Legion, and chairman of the Board of Trustees for Gordon Junior College. He helped lead the Industrial Development Authority, chaired the Board of Directors at the First National Bank, and played a key role in bringing public housing to Barnesville. Henry was one of only three recipients of the Lifetime Achievement in Business Award by the chamber and in 1988, was named Barnesville Citizen of the Year. Henry also served as president of the Boy Scout’s Flint River Council and was appointed by the Governor to several state committees.\u003cbr\u003e \u003cbr\u003eIn 1998, Henry sold Wisebram’s and retired. A few years later, he and Jeanne relocated to Atlanta to be closer to their children and four grandchildren. After 63 years of marriage, Henry passed away on December 27, 2009. Jeanne followed him three weeks later, on January 20, 2010.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eHenry introduces his family. He recounts why his father immigrated to the United States. Henry talks about his father’s experiences in the United States. He explains how his father came to Barnesville, Georgia. Henry describes his mother. He shares what he knows about her family. Henry recalls his family’s interactions with the community during his youth and young adulthood. Henry talks about the family business. He lists other Jewish members of the community. Henry outlines his college career and military service during World War II. He remembers taking his family to synagogue and football games in Atlanta. Henry gives an overview of his service in various organizations in Barnesville, Georgia. He considers his work-life balance over the years. Henry describes how the Civil Rights Movement impacted the town and his business. He recalls some of the ways Barnesville changed in the latter half of the twentieth century. Henry shares anecdotes about Wisebram’s and its customers. Henry mentions dating his wife. He discusses the role of religion in his family’s life. Henry details his children’s education and career choices. He discusses why he closed the store.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eHenry Wisebram was interviewed by Michael Wineroth and Ruth Einstein on October 31, 2007 in Atlanta, Georgia. Jeanne Wisebram joins the interview.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eJoshua Henry Wisebram was born in Barnesville, Georgia on August 9, 1923. He was the oldest of two children and only son of Elijah Wisebram (1892-1984) and Nora Rice Wisebram (1901-1960), both Eastern European immigrants. Henry\u0026rsquo;s father had come to Barnesville in 1919 and opened a department store, Wisebram\u0026rsquo;s, which would anchor the downtown Barnesville business district for decades.\u003cbr /\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003eGrowing up, the Wisebrams were one of the only Jewish families in town. They regularly traveled to nearby Atlanta to attend synagogue services and visit with his mother\u0026rsquo;s family. Henry became an Eagle Scout and attended Gordon High School and Junior College, where he participated in ROTC. He went on to enroll at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, but his studies were interrupted when World War II began. Henry spent over four years serving in the US Army, assigned to the China, Burma, India theater. He achieved the rank of Major at just 20 years old and later retired from the Reserves as a Lieutenant Colonel.\u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003eAfter returning from military service, Henry resumed his studies at UNC and in 1946, married Jeanne Doris Witt (1926-2010). He had met Jeanne while training at Camp Benning in Columbus, Georgia and the two corresponded throughout his deployment. After completing his degree, Henry and Jeanne settled back in Barnesville, where they raised two children, Steve and Diane. Henry joined the family business. Henry drove his family to Atlanta most weekends so they could attend services at Ahavath Achim synagogue and support the Atlanta Falcons as season ticket holders.\u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003eHenry was deeply involved in his community, serving as president of the Chamber of Commerce and Rotary Club, commander of the American Legion, and chairman of the Board of Trustees for Gordon Junior College. He helped lead the Industrial Development Authority, chaired the Board of Directors at the First National Bank, and played a key role in bringing public housing to Barnesville. Henry was one of only three recipients of the Lifetime Achievement in Business Award by the chamber and in 1988, was named Barnesville Citizen of the Year. Henry also served as president of the Boy Scout\u0026rsquo;s Flint River Council and was appointed by the Governor to several state committees.\u003cbr /\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003eIn 1998, Henry sold Wisebram\u0026rsquo;s and retired. A few years later, he and Jeanne relocated to Atlanta to be closer to their children and four grandchildren. After 63 years of marriage, Henry passed away on December 27, 2009. Jeanne followed him three weeks later, on January 20, 2010.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eHenry introduces his family. He recounts why his father immigrated to the United States. Henry talks about his father\u0026rsquo;s experiences in the United States. He explains how his father came to Barnesville, Georgia. Henry describes his mother. He shares what he knows about her family. Henry recalls his family\u0026rsquo;s interactions with the community during his youth and young adulthood. Henry talks about the family business. He lists other Jewish members of the community. Henry outlines his college career and military service during World War II. He remembers taking his family to synagogue and football games in Atlanta. Henry gives an overview of his service in various organizations in Barnesville, Georgia. He considers his work-life balance over the years. Henry describes how the Civil Rights Movement impacted the town and his business. He recalls some of the ways Barnesville changed in the latter half of the twentieth century. Henry shares anecdotes about Wisebram\u0026rsquo;s and its customers. Henry mentions dating his wife. He discusses the role of religion in his family\u0026rsquo;s life. Henry details his children\u0026rsquo;s education and career choices. He discusses why he closed the store.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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Today is Wednesday, October 31, [2007]. I have the pleasure of interviewing Mr. Henry Wisebram of Barnesville, Georgia. This interview will become a part of the Esther and Herbert Taylor Oral History Project at the William Bremen Jewish Heritage Museum. So, with that, Mr. Wisebram, we will begin. I am going to just ask you some questions and just whatever you can tell us about what you remember. We are going to start with your parents, if you could. So, we are sort of going to go in chronological order. I am gonna try to stay that way. Tell me what your parents' names were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: My parents, my father was Elijah Wisebram. My mother was Nora Rice Wisebram. My father was born in 1892, somewhere in the neighborhood of Bialystok, at that time Russia, which is now Poland. My mother was born in a small town close to that by the name of Yashinovka, or something close to that. She was some ten years, I think, younger than my father. They did not meet in the old country. They met in Atlanta here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=50.0,92.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=92.0,93.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: They married in 1919. My mother was a Rice. The Rice family lived in Atlanta on the south side. I do not know the history of the Rice grandparents. My grandmother died when I was very young. My grandfather lived until … Actually, he came and lived in Barnesville for a while. But I do not know the history. Now, on my father's side, as I said, he was born somewhere close to Bialystok. As he told me, in those days the Jews were not permitted to buy land. His father had served in the Russian Army in some engagement and as a result, he owned what my father called a farm. I do not know how large the farm was, but apparently it was a type of farm that they had at that time, and they raised chickens and so forth on the farm. The rules at that time were Jews who had that type of service could own the land, but they could never leave the land. If they left more than for three days, they would give up their title to the land, and the Russian government would take it back or somebody would. So, as my father said, when he was 11 years old, which would make it 1902 [or 1903], his father left and went to visit some relatives and stayed four, five or six days. As a result, someone who didn't like him reported to the town leaders or whatever it was that he had left the farm. So, they made him move. They confiscated the land and he had to move so he moved into Bialystok. This was in 1903. I mean, excuse me, two thousand and …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=93.0,247.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: No, you were right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=247.0,248.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Nineteen hundred and three. That's where the information I have of my father starts, when he was in Bialystok.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=248.0,261.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=261.0,261.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: He said he was 11 years old when he came to Bialystok and his parents enrolled him, of course, in the yeshiva. He said in this particular yeshiva they wore uniforms. So, he had a uniform. I'm not sure whether it was the yeshiva uniform or the public school type thing. I'd rather believe it was a public school because he said as a result of having the uniform on, he could go about the town, which he did. He apprenticed to a printer, and he was learning how to do the old type machines, which they weren't machines. I think in those days you picked up the letter and did something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=261.0,316.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Handset.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=316.0,317.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: In 1906, there was a pogrom in Bialystok. He says at that time he would have been 14, 15 years old. Because of his uniform, he could go about in any way he wanted to. They didn't tell him … Because the school that he went to, I believe he said they had 50 percent Jewish and 50 percent non-Jewish. Apparently, Bialystok was a central location for a large number of Jewish families. And he observed the pogrom. He said they only got to the edge of town, but they did the damage in a couple of days and then finally somebody came and they moved on. As a result of that, the American Jewish Committee of which he was a benefactor, they came in and gave the families money. If they lost a cow, they got so much. If they lost this, that and the other … If lost a child, they got so much. And that's where he came first in contact with the American Jewish Committee. But he had a friend in Bialystok by the name of Abe Blum. Abe Blum and he were friends. At what stage and so forth, I'm not sure, but Abe Blum moved to the United States, and he tried to get his friend, Elijah, to come. Now, is this what you want me to talk about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=317.0,418.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: You are doing great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=418.0,419.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Alright.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=419.0,419.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: You are doing great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=419.0,421.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Elijah said that he told him, he said, \"I'm really not interested in coming.\" He said, \"I'm 16 years old. I'll soon have to join the army.\" And he said, \"That's what I want to do. I want to make …\" They were having a revolution, I think, quite often over there and he wanted to help the revolution. Well, Mr. Blum came to the United States, settled in Atlanta at first, and he finally wrote my father, said, \"I'm sending you enough money to buy a ticket, and you come and stay so long. If you don't like it, I'll give you enough money and you go back.\" So, my father came to this country, got here, I think, in 1911. \u003cInterview pauses; then resumes\u003e So, my father landed in Baltimore [Maryland]. I have never found out yet why Baltimore because my children and so forth thought sure he must have come through Ellis Island. They're looking, looking, look. There's no Wisebrams. Anyhow, after reading what he left, I realized it was Baltimore. And then he came to see Blum, of course, in Atlanta. And I'm not exactly sure why he went from Atlanta to Rome [Georgia], but according to some of the papers I read, Mr. Blum must have told him there was a good chance for him to start a little business if he went to Rome. So, he went to Rome, not knowing anyone there, and he went into this blanket selling business where he had blankets on his, I guess, horse and buggy. I don't know. He would go, you know, sell one here on time and he'd come back, like the present-day insurance people that do that. They knock on the doors and all that. He stayed in Rome. He went to Rome in 19 … I guess, 1913, and stayed there a year or so, and there's some interesting things I'll show you about what he said about people giving him a place to live, let him live. After he stayed there a couple of years, he decided he liked Rome and he liked the United States and he wasn't going to go back. So, as this story has been repeated over and over and over again, he in turn sent money for his siblings to come to this country. So, he brought over a brother—he only had one brother—and he brought his older sister. And they came and they lived in Rome with him for a year or two. We're getting up now to 1917. By 1917, he had learned enough English to take his naturalization [test]. He was naturalized in 1917. At the same time, he was naturalized [or] about that time, he received a notice, he had to register. Apparently, in World War I they must have had something similar to the draft, not exactly, but they had something like it. I've got a copy of his draft papers there. And then, he went into the army, and he served in the army. [He] served in France in two or three of the campaigns. He was in the army until, I guess, 1918, when the war ended, and that's when he came back. When he got back, by that time, Mr. Blum had moved to Forsyth [Georgia]. Now, why Forsyth, I have no idea. Now, if you know a little bit of Georgia geography, you know if you leave Atlanta and go south, you come to Griffin [Georgia]. After Griffin, you're in Barnesville. Then, after Barnesville, you're in Forsyth. The Central Georgia Rail went right down that way, all the way on down to Macon [Georgia] and Savannah [Georgia]. So, he went down to visit Blum in Forsyth. And I think Blum must have told him that he'd do much better if he came down around this part of the state rather than Rome, that the business opportunities were better. As he said in some of the recordings I have of papers, he looked around on the train and first he thought he'd go to Thomaston [Georgia]. Now, Thomaston sits about 16 miles west of Barnesville and there was no railroad that went straight through Thomaston. You had to come to Barnesville and then take another [way] to Thomaston. He got to Thomaston, and he looked around and said the streets were muddy, and he just didn't like that. So, when he got back to Barnesville, he looked round and the square was paved. He said, \"That looks like a nice country town.\" So, he decided he'd come to Barnesville, which he did in 1919. He found a location, and he found a place to live. Now, back in those days, this little town of Barnesville, apparently there had been a Jewish family there before who were associated with the gamblers and so forth. And they didn't have much enthusiasm for renting to a Jew. Well, he finally found this house where this real devout Baptist lady and her husband lived and she took him in. And that was the name of … They [were] called the Butts family, B-U-T-T-S. And they became … She became like a mother to him, the family and everything, and he lived there. About this time, of course, he got married in 1919, I guess. I think that's right. Anyway, he lived … That's how he got to Barnesville. That is how he started a business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=421.0,813.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay. I want to ask you a little bit about your parents in terms of what were they like. What was your father like as you remember him?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=813.0,820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Oh, I got his picture. I don't have to remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=820.0,822.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Well, I want you to tell me something about his personality. Was he outgoing? Was he …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=822.0,827.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=827.0,827.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: No?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=827.0,827.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: No, my father …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=827.0,832.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: He was quiet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=832.0,833.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: [He] was a quiet person. He never lost his accent as long as he was here, and as much as he studied, and as he went in contact with people after he opened up the store. But he was quiet and he was reserved. He was very …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=833.0,852.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: He was a very polite gentleman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=852.0,852.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: He was polite and he was very well liked. And he was very proud that he was a citizen and he had nothing, no love for the old country. In fact, I can well remember back how many years I don't know. And I asked him one day, I said, “Wouldn't you like to take a trip and go back to see Bialystok?” His reply was, \"Hell, no. I left there. I'm glad I'm away from there. Except by the grace of G-d, I wouldn't be here today.\" That was his reply. He was a patriot, by all means. He was very liked in the community. He never lost his accent. Why, I don't know. But he always had an accent. My mother died in 1959, and he lived in the house, which they had lived in for … I don't know. I guess we moved in that house when I was ten. And he stayed there by himself. We had someone with him, of course, most of the time until he died. He died in the house and he was almost 92.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=852.0,944.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: I was going to ask you that. He was 92, almost 92 when he died?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=944.0,948.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Almost. He died in … When was it? February, and he'd have been 92 in July.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=948.0,956.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Wow, so he was a strong fellow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=956.0,959.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Well, he'd had this, that, and the other, like everybody else. When you get old, everything happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=959.0,965.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=965.0,965.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: My mother. She developed cancer and she died, as I said. She died in Emory Hospital here. She was 59. She died in 1960. That's what it is. They're both buried here in Greenwood Cemetery.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=965.0,989.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: What was your mother like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=989.0,994.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: You know, at my age, I have to picture her in my mind. My father, I can hear right now talking. My mother, I really have very few what you'd say [are] intimate thoughts about her, but she was … As a typical Jewish family, she worked in the store. She raised a family, my sister and I. Our two children were born, I think, before she died, weren't they?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=994.0,1038.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1038.0,1042.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: You ask me what she was like, I just, she was very religious and my father was not that type of religious. He was … He took religion as it came, but he could scoot around it if he wanted to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1042.0,1062.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: So, she was the observant one? Your mom was the observant one of the family?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1062.0,1067.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: She was observant. He was observant, too, but if he didn't like it he wouldn't. And that's about all I remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1067.0,1076.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Do you know how your mother and father met?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1076.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: No. I've got pictures of the wedding and everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1080.0,1083.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1083.0,1084.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I do not. Again, I remember my grandparents.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1084.0,1094.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1094.0,1094.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: They lived, as I said, on the south side. You know where the Atlanta Stadium is now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1094.0,1098.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1098.0,1099.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: That was in their neighborhood. They lived where Capitol Avenue came down and [intersected] Glenn Street. And they lived on the second house on Glenn Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1099.0,1107.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Was this your father's parents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1107.0,1108.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Not that's my mother's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1108.0,1109.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Oh, your mother's parents.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1109.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: See, my father's parents never got to this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1110.0,1112.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: I see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1112.0,1116.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: My grandfather was in the old … what they called the junk business. And I can remember coming up here, he had a horse and a wagon that he used to hook up. He also had a son and five daughters, counting my mother. All of them are dead except one who is now 101 years old. She lives in the Jewish Home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1116.0,1147.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Wow!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1147.0,1147.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: And my uncle is dead too, I mean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1147.0,1150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: You know Joe and Carole Rubin?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1150.0,1151.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1151.0,1153.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: That's her mother, the one he's talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1153.0,1155.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1155.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: She's at the Jewish Home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1156.0,1157.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay. I know Joe and Carole. Okay. They were both from Europe. How did they learn English? Just by being around it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1157.0,1169.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: My father, according to the notes I have, he went to a school in Rome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1169.0,1173.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1173.0,1174.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: And how my mother learned, I do not know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1174.0,1177.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1177.0,1179.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I have no idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1179.0,1180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: How do you feel the community accepted them in Barnesville? I mean, they were different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1180.0,1186.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Well, the story, like I said, is that he was different. She never had an accent. So, I don't know how she picked it up. But he was accepted almost like a son to most of the people there. As I told you, they moved into this house with this devout Baptist and his wife, and they adopted him just like a brother. And my mother took part in some of the civic activities but not as much as he did because well, she died young to begin with, and she worked all the time. As he stayed in the Barnesville, he was accepted and headed most of the organizations in Barnesville. He was particularly active in the American Red Cross during World War II. He was a fund chairman all the time during the wartime. He was active in all civic activities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1186.0,1259.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Do you remember any of the other organizations that he was involved with besides the Red Cross?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1259.0,1266.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Oh, yes. He was on the Lamar County school board. He was commander of the American Legion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1266.0,1274.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Wow!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1274.0,1281.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: He … All kinds of funds. Boy Scouts. He was vice chairman of the Boy Scout Council and all kind of activities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1281.0,1291.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: So, he was very dependable. It sounds like people knew who to go to, and he sounds like he had a lot of leadership skills.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1291.0,1298.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1298.0,1302.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Why was he interested in being involved in these organizations?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1302.0,1307.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: He felt like that he had come to this country as a poor immigrant. This country had been good to him and he felt like, that although he took out, shall we say, by making a living from the people of Barnesville and Lamar County, he wanted to give back whatever he could.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1307.0,1335.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Right. So, it was his way of contributing to the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1335.0,1337.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: That's correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1337.0,1338.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: It sounds to me, too, like this family that took your father in had a lot to do with promoting him in the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1338.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I think that's probably true. Of course, I couldn't say. I wasn't there, but I remember growing up. Now, I left Barnesville to go in the army when I was 18 years old, so my experiences up to that time were more or less just growing up through grade school and high school. I can remember of no incidents during that time where he was singled out as anything except just a member of the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1350.0,1386.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: That is good to know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1386.0,1387.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: He would never …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1387.0,1391.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: I wanted to ask you about their store. You said, I think, it started in 1919.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1391.0,1396.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1396.0,1397.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Tell me a little bit about the store but tell me the name of the store.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1397.0,1404.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: He used the name Elijah Wisebram. That was his name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1404.0,1408.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Elijah Wisebram.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1408.0,1408.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: And he had it there. Now, when I came along, I dropped the Elijah, of course, part and just called it Wisebram’s, and expanded it a couple of times, and so forth. But he always was known as Elijah, just as I was always known as Henry, even though my name is Joshua Henry. I never heard the word Joshua until I got in the army and then they started using your first name. And he just had one name, Elijah. He didn't have a middle name. But that was the way it was. Like in Forsyth, Blum's was Blum. I mean, Mr. Blum there, I don't think he was ever quite as active. Well, I don't know, civic-wise, as my father was, he may have been.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1408.0,1454.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Well, tell me about the store. What did they sell?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1454.0,1458.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: We sold. We, not they. We were what you always … You're too young to know. [We had] what we used to call a small town department store. We sold men's, women's, and children's clothing [and] shoes. And also, we were in the …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1458.0,1484.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: Piece goods.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1484.0,1485.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Piece goods. I don't think they call … that he would know what piece goods is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1485.0,1489.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: Fabrics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1489.0,1489.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Fabrics. That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1489.0,1490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Fabrics. I was thinking fabrics, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1490.0,1492.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: And at one time, that was a big portion of our business. He started off in a small store—must have been maybe 2,000 square feet—and then he moved. That was one of the locations he had. Then, somewhere along in the early 1930s he moved a block up further to the center of town and he had added another 2,000 [square feet]. He had 4,000 square feet. When I came along, I expanded it twice, and we had 8,000 square feet, plus a warehouse in the back. We had a good business, and I was able to raise my family. The business progressed and so forth. Then, shopping malls came along and everybody says Wal-Mart. Well, Wal-Mart had something, but it didn't particularly affect us. We had Wal-Marts in three different towns 15 miles away. But the idea of making a family outing when they went shopping, instead of coming to a store such as ours … Well, let's put it this way: when they came into our store, they knew they wanted something. If a man came in, he would have a shirt on his mind and so forth. We had to have what he wanted. Children, we had children's stuff and all that. But then it got to the point where people liked to bring their families out, and they wanted to go to a mall where the children could play, and they could shop, and so forth, and they could eat, and this, that, and the other. That started the demise of the small town, like I say, department stores. We were nothing like a big department store. We didn't have any hard goods and stuff like that. But we had a very profitable business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1492.0,1630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Over the years, did you change the business in terms of what you sold, or did it remain as you described it at the very beginning?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1630.0,1641.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Of course, it expanded two or three times and so forth. And then as you went along, you dropped certain items, like she was talking about dry goods, piece goods. Piece goods used to be a big thing and then it went to nothing, so we took it out and put something else in. When we closed, we had no piece goods, didn't have for the last ten or 15 years. But …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1641.0,1665.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: When did the store actually close?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1665.0,1669.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: December the 28th in 1998.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1669.0,1672.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Oh, not too long ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1672.0,1675.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1675.0,1675.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: And your children were not interested in the store?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1675.0,1679.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Couldn't get them interested. My son wanted to be an executive and he would come in and he was interested in going into the office and sitting in my chair. My daughter, she had a little bit more interest. But we used to employ a lot of high school kids. In fact, we used to hire 15 or 20 of them during Thanksgiving, and Christmas, after school, and so forth, and Diane used to come because a lot her friends were there and they could talk. But no, they were not interested. My grandson, he decided that he used to love to come to the store. He told them that all he wanted to do was—I guess he was just less than ten years old, six or seven—he only wanted to run the store so he could get enough money to buy … What was that? A Maserati or some kind of car. But nobody was interested in it, and you couldn't sell a store like that. It required a lot of work. Most people didn't want to work seven days a week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1679.0,1758.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1758.0,1758.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: It required, of course, a lot of money to start. Well, we were fortunate in that the years it was very profitable, we were building up inventory. But if someone had to come in, go out and buy inventory, and then replace it, that's when they got in trouble. Because it couldn't get the volume that you needed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1758.0,1781.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: You probably saw many different generations of the same families who shopped in the store.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1781.0,1786.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: We did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1786.0,1787.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: What did you do? Where there were customers who did not have money and promised to pay you? What did do about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1787.0,1793.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Alright, that's an interesting proposition. During my father's active part in the store, up through World War II, he used to say, \"For cash, for less.\" Everything was on a cash basis. Oh, I'm not saying he didn't [ever allow] somebody to buy something, come back, pay for it or something. When I got back, we still operated under that, but it became obvious as soon as the credit cards came out that if you wanted to stay in business, you had to not only, of course, accept the credit cards, but you had to go into the credit business. And that's what kept us going for the last, I guess, ten or 15 years. When we closed, in a little community, we had a population of less than 6,000. I had 1,500 people on my credit list. I had active accounts of about 500, which we used to send 500 statements a month. And frankly, that's what kept us going and enabled us to make progress. But credit in small towns involved … You know, we have to go way, way back [to] when the people living on a farm would work from crop to crop. Then, they would come to town and establish credit. And then, as my father used to tell me, in 1920, he'd only been in business a year or so and, I think, that was the year that the boll weevil [a type of beetle that eats cotton buds and flowers] came through and wiped out a lot of farms. And that's where … Of course, he didn't have any credit customers, but he didn't have any customers because they didn't have any money. So, that was … It evolved, went around and everything goes in a circle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1793.0,1921.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: I think you said when your father came to Barnesville, he may have been the second Jewish family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1921.0,1930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: According to what I find out, yes. After that, we had the Karp family. Now, that's Sam Karp and his family. We had a family that came in there right before war started by the name of Weiss. War came in and he had to move. There was another nice couple came in. He opened a store and he was drafted. We had a dentist, Sam Zion came there, and he stayed till wartime. Most of them had to leave because of the war. I'm talking about World War II now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1930.0,1970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1970.0,1973.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Today, there isn't a Jewish family, is there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1973.0,1981.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: I don't know of any except if they're associated with the school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1981.0,1985.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Yes, we have a junior college there and occasionally comes a faculty member who will stay a year or two and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1985.0,1991.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Is that Gordon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1991.0,1992.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Gordon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1992.0,1993.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Gordon College, okay. So, you do not think there are any other Jewish families there other than maybe who are affiliated with the college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=1993.0,2000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I know that for a fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2000.0,2001.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Wow!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2001.0,2003.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: There are not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2003.0,2003.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2003.0,2004.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: When we left, we were the last ones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2004.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: So, are you saying that the majority of Jews that came to Barnesville came just prior to World War II? That was like the height of the Jewish community there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2010.0,2023.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I would say that's probably right. No, then after the war some came in, like I said. The Goodmans didn't come until after the war, and the Karps stayed there for a while.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2023.0,2038.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Were you friendly with these people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2038.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Oh, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2040.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Did you form a group of some sort?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2040.0,2042.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: No, there were no groups.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2042.0,2043.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: No?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2043.0,2044.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: We came to Atlanta services, and I guess they came when they wanted to. Most of them had relatives like we did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2044.0,2051.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2051.0,2052.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Now, some of them may have gone to Macon, but we had no relatives in Macon. 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Is there anything that stands out in your mind as being just a real pivotal point in your life in Barnesville?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2060.0,2073.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Well, I think the pivotal point would have to be Gordon, of which I served as chairman for a number of years. Gordon, when I grew up, was the only high school. It was a segregated school system. Gordon furnished the local white high school. In fact, they even supported the grammar school. High school was Gordon and military. Gordon was what was called an essential military school. It was what they called an honor military school. If you went to Gordon and completed the ROTC program, then at the end of that, you went to a summer camp, ROTC camp. And if you did well there, then you got what was called a certificate, a commission certificate, a certificate to be a second lieutenant infantry. They had the bands and they had all that stuff. And I vividly recall the marches, the bands marching up and down. And that continued, actually, after we got back for a long time. But that's probably the thing that I remember. I remember the grammar school. I remember my dad's store, of course. But military. I think that's what inspired me. In fact, I wanted to stay in the military. And I had an appointment to the [United States Military] Academy. [I] went and took an exam; found out I was color blind. So, that didn't work. But when I went into the army, nobody asked me if I was color blind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2073.0,2197.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: I thought maybe your dad leaned on you to make your life in the store or take it over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2197.0,2206.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: No. Again, you've got to remember, when I left there, I was 17 years old to go off to college. So, he wasn't training me for anything. In fact, he was trying to train me, I guess, for something else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2206.0,2225.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2225.0,2226.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I don't know that. I mean, that's a …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2226.0,2230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: You went to high school in Barnesville?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2230.0,2234.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Gordon High School.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2234.0,2235.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Gordon High School, okay. And then, where did you go to school? Did you go college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2235.0,2240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Alright, I went to Gordon. Gordon at that time had become a junior college as well as high school. The ROTC program, as I said, required four years of military. So, when I graduated high school in 1940, I'd only had three years of military for one year of Gordon Junior College so that I could complete the ROTC requirement. In the summer of 1940, I went to what's called ROTC summer camp. And that year, it was held at Clemson [University in Clemson, South Carolina] and I passed that with high orders. That fall, which would be the fall of 1941 … I went to the camp in 1940. Anyway, then I went to Chapel Hill University in [Chapel Hill] North Carolina. And the war came. I'd been there just one year and then they changed the requirement. In the spring or summer of 1942, they lowered the 21-year-old requirement to 18. So, I convinced my parents that's what I was going to do. And I went to complete another full year, of course, as I say, at North Carolina. Then, I went into the army in July of 1942 as an 18-year-old second lieutenant. I stayed in the army until 1946, and I was a 21-year-old major when I got out. My service was the usual stuff, training, and all that in this country. And I went to China. I stayed in China for two and a half years. When the war ended, I was on the coast of China. And thank goodness, they dropped the bomb, because there's no telling what would … casualties would be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2240.0,2384.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: So, after the war, you, of course, went back to Barnesville?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2384.0,2386.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: After the war, we married and I went back to school for two years to complete my four years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2386.0,2393.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Oh, okay. Did you go back to North Carolina?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2393.0,2395.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2395.0,2396.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Oh, okay. And you were you married at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2396.0,2398.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Got married after I got out of the army. The last two years, we were married. Jeanne says that she was the one that helped me enough that I made Phi Beta Kappa [academic honor society] before I got outta there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2398.0,2412.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Good for you!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2412.0,2413.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: [It was] with her help, but her name is not on the certificate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2413.0,2418.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay, tell me a little bit about your interaction with non-Jewish people in Barnesville.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2418.0,2426.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Couldn't be any better. I mean, I didn't have anybody else to react with. Jeanne got along over that just as good as I did. We were, social-wise, I guess we had the social class, and we were right there with them. They'd form an organization. They'd always ask us to join. They formed a country club in Griffin, we were asked to join and so forth. We were asked to join the club even in Macon, which we couldn't do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2426.0,2463.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay. How did you and Jean meet? Do you want to tell me the story?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2463.0,2475.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2475.0,2476.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: I want to hear it now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2476.0,2477.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: No, he's just got something he's not going to tell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2477.0,2481.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I was in the army, and was sent to Fort Benning, and she was living in Columbus [Georgia]. I had to take a course at Fort Benning and that's where I met her, in Fort Benning. Then, we corresponded during the time I was overseas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2481.0,2499.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: And Jeanne was living in Columbus at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2499.0,2501.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Her family was living in Columbus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2501.0,2504.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay. We will leave that right there. What did you do about services, about the holidays?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2504.0,2518.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Alright, my children … I have a son and a daughter, a daughter and a son. And we brought them to Sunday school every Sunday all the way from … I don't know what grade we started, but they were just tots. And I used to bring them up. Now, the Karp family, which lived just diagonally across the street from us, they had four daughters. And he and I would occasionally one take the other. I mean …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2518.0,2549.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Like a carpool?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2549.0,2551.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Carpool. And that was a chore because they're always fighting, always. So, I tried to buy me one of these police cars where you had … You could separate them in the back and then have … I wanted a glass front between me and them so I couldn't hear it. But I never could find one. But we brought them every Sunday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2551.0,2577.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Where in Atlanta? Which synagogue did you all go to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2577.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: AA [Ahavath Achim].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2580.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: AA.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2580.0,2581.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: And the… But that's what we did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2581.0,2589.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: So …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2589.0,2590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: We made them come. Didn't do any good. Both of them married outside of the faith, so it …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2590.0,2595.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: But you made the effort.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2595.0,2596.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: We made the effort. We used to come up when the Falcons first started. We had season tickets to the Falcon games. See, I couldn't go to football games on Saturday because that was my big day working. And we made the kids go with us. Well, the son liked it. My daughter hated it. She hated it because we'd pick them up from Sunday school, give them a lunch, eat in the car, go park the car, and go. And my favorite story is [that] it was cold one day and Jeanne had some fur-lined boots. So, as soon as we get to the parking lot, you started putting your clothes on. So, we got out of the lot, we start towards the stadium and Diane sits down. She says, \"I'm not going any further.\" Well, we knew she didn't like football and I said, \"Well, what's the matter with you?\" [She said,] \"Look at mama.\" [I asked,] \"What's the problem with mama?\" She said she'd put her fur-lined boots on the wrong foot. Diane said she wasn't going to go any further. Mama had her boots on wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2596.0,2665.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: That is a cute story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2665.0,2667.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Anyhow, when she went off to college, she hated football. And she still hates football simply because we made her go to the games. That was the thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2667.0,2682.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Did you ever regret not living in a larger city?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2682.0,2687.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I always thought I was better off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2687.0,2689.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: You thought you were better off in a smaller town?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2689.0,2692.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: That's right. You've got to remember, in a small town, you could be a big fish in a little pond. In a big city like Atlanta, of course, you'd be a little fish in a big pond. Anyhow, we got along fine. I don't think either one of us ever had any regrets that we stayed in Barnesville.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2692.0,2715.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: You do not feel like you missed anything?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2715.0,2717.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2717.0,2718.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay. But you were close enough to Atlanta that you could take a advantage of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2718.0,2720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I was fixing to say [that]. And all the time … You see, I had a lot of relatives here, and Jeanne had relatives in Columbus, a couple of people from Columbus. Well, from Barnesville to Columbus was 75 miles. To where we used to come in Atlanta was 60 miles. So, it wasn't that much further.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2720.0,2740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2740.0,2740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: And she could take the kids and go visit her parents. They were both living at the time in Columbus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2740.0,2747.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: You talked about how involved your father was in the civic community in Barnesville, and that, you know, he was behind so many different important things that were going on there. Were you involved with civic organizations?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2747.0,2764.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Too many. I served as, I guess, president of most everything except the Ku Klux Klan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2764.0,2774.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth: I will bet they asked you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2774.0,2784.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Just to name a few, I was chairman of Gordon Military. I was vice chairman for a number of years, and I was chairman until we finally realized we had to sell it to the state. I was Chairman of the Board of Trustees. I was the Chairman of the Board of the First National Bank. I was … I don't know what all. All the … Like American Legion, I've done that. Chamber of Commerce, I been chairman of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2784.0,2818.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: Boy Scouts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2818.0,2818.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Oh, I was Flint River Council Chairman of Boy Scouts. That included eight counties. What else, I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2818.0,2827.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: So, that kept you busy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2827.0,2830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I kept really too busy because I neglected … I was just telling Jeanne the other day, the times that I was working all the time … Now, we would work six days a week and on Sunday, I'd bring the kids to Atlanta. After the kids got out, I'd still come into Atlanta because I did a lot of shopping here. When they opened the Merchandise Mart, it was … I had a lot doing that. Jeanne and I used to go to New York four times a year, or three times, or two times before they opened a mart here. We did a lot of buying there. But I have no regret of living there. See, they have … Well, I can show you a bunch of stuff I got back there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2830.0,2879.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Tell me what it was like during the Civil Rights era in Barnesville, and how did you accommodate to these changes that were coming?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2879.0,2889.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: All right, that's an interesting thing. We got back to Barnesville in the latter part of 1948. The Civil Rights thing came to a head when they integrated schools, which I think was 1954, or 1955, 1956, something like that. By that time, I was chairman, I guess, of the board of Gordon, or if I wasn't, I was vice chairman. That was a ticklish situation. Barnesville had its share of hotheads on both sides, white and black. Being the largest store in Barnesville, we were the focal point, of course, as to what they thought they could do. We'd had no black employees, and the blacks, rightly so, thought that they ought to have representation. So, we had a … I guess you'd call it a riot. The blacks came to town, and I don't know exactly what they did want, but they wanted something. So, the police station was back of our store, and we had a police force I think of about four, or five, or six. They were all inside the station when the mob got there and [the mob] wouldn't let them out. So, they called for state patrol, and the state patrol came charging in there with their guns and all that stuff. No shots were fired and they finally dispersed. In the process of dispersing, they picked up some bricks and threw it through some windows, mine included. And I employed the first black on the square of Barnesville. He was a man [who] was well-liked, and he worked for me for several years. He died unexpectedly. But as my story goes, the only person who ever told me they didn't want that black waiting on me was a black woman. No white ever mentioned [it]. Well, they mentioned we have it, yes, because he was well-liked to the whites as well as black. Then, I employed two or three more. I had, when we closed, I guess as many or more blacks as I did whites. But it was evolution, as you found in every small town in Georgia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=2889.0,3068.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Yes. How large was your work force? You mentioned at holidays you had more obviously than …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3068.0,3074.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Oh, in Christmastime, I had 30, or 40, or something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3074.0,3080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3080.0,3080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Most of the time, regular force, I had about 12 people. And on Saturday, you'd have one or two or three more. Saturdays used to be our big day. Not anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3080.0,3096.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: How would you … I do not know if you have been back to Barnesville since you have moved here, but do you view Barnesville differently now than you did before? And is it a different place than it was when you grew up there and had your store?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3096.0,3121.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Well, naturally it's a different place. I don't say we view it any different. Most of our contemporaries, as I said before, are dead. I've been back four or five times, each time to a funeral. I haven't been back for a social visit. So, but we talk and most of our friends that are left have been up here to see us. But as [far as] being different, yes, it's different because I get the Barnesville paper. It's a weekly. And every week I get it, there are more names that I don't know who it is. So, whereas I used to have a personal interest that I'd read the paper, and I'd know if Mike was in there, and I know exactly who you were. Now, it's just names.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3121.0,3170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Has it grown?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3170.0,3172.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: It's growing, [but] not spectacularly. Barnesville just got one of the Chinese plants coming to this country. It's going up there and it's … The school has progressed. In 1972, when I was chairman, Gordon had gotten into debt. Mommas didn't want to send their sons to military school because this was at the end of the Vietnam War. So, we couldn't get anybody to school there except delinquents, where they either go to jail or they go to military school. So, we had to bail out. We owed a million and a half dollars, and we got the state to take it. We paid everybody off to every dime. It's become a state school now, since 1974, and they have grown tremendously. They've got 3,500 students there now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3172.0,3237.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: How many?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3237.0,3238.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Thirty-five hundred.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3238.0,3238.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Wow!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3238.0,3239.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: They are expecting another thousand or two pretty soon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3239.0,3243.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth: Can I just interject? I wanted to go back just for a second about your store during the 1950s and 1960s. Maybe you have some thoughts on this, because I am still trying to understand whether the position of Jews was the same as other white merchants in the racial mix, or was it? I mean, do you have any thoughts on that, or whether Jews treated people differently or the same, or what was going on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3243.0,3276.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Jews were part of the … I don't think people considered us as 'that strange Jew.' People considered us as neighbors. They considered us as businesspeople. And whose side we were on? We were on the white side, if you want to call it sides, because that's where we were. We didn't take the flag, and go out, and lead it. I remember one time, one of the prominent attorneys there came to me. He said, \"Let's fight this thing.\" He said, \"We can do this, that, and the other.\" I said, \"All you're trying to do is just get some business for yourself, because there's no way we're gonna beat it, so we have to … If you can't beat them, you join them.\" So, I don't think there was a division there. The only divisions I ever saw was what went on in Atlanta, where some of the prominent people would be there leading the marches and so forth. But we didn't have that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3276.0,3337.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth: Was there the sense that people wanted, I mean, would beat it if there was a chance to? Did they want to preserve the status quo? Or were you perhaps any more open or just the same as other white merchants to this change?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3337.0,3354.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Well … We were open to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3354.0,3357.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth: I mean, that is a little sensitive question, but …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3357.0,3359.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: You get any ten people together, you're gonna have differences of opinion. So, we had more than ten people, so we'd have more differences there. But I don't remember ever anyone as saying that, bringing religion up. It was a color question and I can't recall that, no. Well, in the first place, there wasn't enough of us there to make any difference anyhow. So, I don't recall that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3359.0,3397.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Mr. Wisebram, you spent a lot of time, obviously, in the store. I'm sure you have some memories of some of the customers and some maybe things that happened in the store. Were there any customers or families that stand out in your mind as far as, when they came in the door, you knew to expect this or expect that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3397.0,3418.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I remember one when he came in the door, I'd go out the back door because I didn't want to wait on him, but no. Barnesville was primarily a textile town. At one time, we had 2,000 textile jobs. When the … Before the integration process came, I guess 99 and nine-tenths were white. After the thing started where the blacks were integrated into it, the textile jobs got to be 75 percent black. Then, the whole thing started collapsing when everything was going to Mexico and so forth. And Barnesville now has about 350 textile jobs [and] big empty buildings where the textile mills were. So, as for outstanding customers, yes, we had some customers who traded with us more than others, but I didn't have any that I could think of. Now, the social elite of Barnesville, they didn't trade with us. All they would … If they needed something, if a man needed a shirt, and I had an Arrow [brand] white shirt in a [size] 15 and a half [inch neck and a] 33 [inch sleeve], he'd come get it. But he wasn't gonna come and … At one time, we sold Hart Schaffner Marx [brand] suits, and he might take a look, but if he was gonna spend that kind of money, he was going to go to Atlanta. Why? Because he had a bigger selection. If I had ten suits for him to select from, he'd come up here to Zachry [menswear store] and he had 100, so … And he could get the same price, and those type of people didn't have to worry about paying on time. So, we didn't get the carriage [well-to-do people] trade, but we got our share of the …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3418.0,3550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: I bet Easter was a big …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3550.0,3552.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Oh, Easter used to be big. Oh, that was big. I once ran a promotion on Easter, a big deal. \u003cInterview pauses; then resumes\u003e We had those big hats, and little hats, and all that stuff. And we only have one problem with that [which] is they'd buy them on the week before Easter, and bring them back the week after Easter, and wear them on Easter Sunday. But that wasn't for everybody. I mean, you know … Then, oh, one big promotion I had on Easter shoes. Shoes was a big portion of my business, at least 25 percent, because I liked shoes and so forth. So, there was a farm supply place a block or two away. So, for Easter—and we did this several years—I would advertise, \"Buy a pair of Easter shoes for your children and get a free chicken bitty.\" Those are the little chickens, you know, when they're … after they've hatched. They'd come in, they'd buy the shoes. We'd take the box, punch some holes in the box top, slap a chicken in there, give them there, and put the shoes in the sack, and they'd be gone. And we did a big promotion of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3552.0,3631.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Easter chicks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3631.0,3632.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Giving away free chicks with a pair of shoes. In those days shoes sold for maybe less than five dollars, maybe $3.99 or something, but it was a big promotion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3632.0,3644.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: I bet you had one of those machines where you put your feet in …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3644.0,3648.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3648.0,3648.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: … and you could see the outline of the shoe. Fluoroscope light.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3648.0,3651.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I had that in my warehouse until I moved up here and I gave it away because the bulb was long gone. That was a big deal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3651.0,3661.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Was there anyone, when you closed up, was there anyone … Did you intend to sell the business or …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3661.0,3667.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I tried to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3667.0,3668.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: You tried?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3668.0,3668.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: But you couldn't sell. I had … It was too big a store for people just starting out. They didn't have the money. So, I finally ended up getting a professional and I had what was called a 'Retirement Sale,' going out of business and retirement. I thought 'retirement' sounded a little bit more dignified than 'going out of business.'","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3668.0,3692.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: I agree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3692.0,3693.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: But it was that. We did a big business. G-d, we did a big …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3693.0,3697.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: This was in 1998?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3697.0,3702.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: In the middle of 1998. I drug on. I had it in the middle of the summer, I think it was, but I kept it open. And towards the end, I had so much space, I gave it to these arts and crafts people. They'd come in, and set up a booth inside, and then people could come in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3702.0,3721.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth: What did people say to you when they would come in to shop at your store that they may have been shopping in for decades?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3721.0,3729.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Oh, I had a lot of letters and so forth. We were considered an institution, I guess you'd call it, because they had been shopping there for two or three generations. But everything good's got to come to an end sooner or later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3729.0,3746.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Do you have some of the advertisements that you had in the papers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3746.0,3749.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I've got a whole book full of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3749.0,3751.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Good. We will look at that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3751.0,3752.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: But some of the prices were surprising.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3752.0,3758.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: I want to ask you about how it is that, not why you married your wife, but how did your parents instill in you the notion that you needed to marry someone Jewish? Or did they? Did you come upon this on your own or …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3758.0,3777.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I think I came across it on my own. Again, I went to Sunday school. They brought me here only for about … I think I went to what they call a Bible class or something. I didn't start off like ours did all the way through. I don't remember that question ever really presenting itself. I guess it was just natural migration [or] whatever you want to call it that did that. All the time when I was growing up, there were no Jewish girls in Barnesville. But again, I left there, again, like I said, when I was 17.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3777.0,3825.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: But maybe this idea of marrying someone Jewish was instilled in you without it being thrown in your face. 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But back in those days, it wasn't like it is today now. 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We were talking not too long ago. Somebody invited me to …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3874.0,3883.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: Your family knew the people in Columbus. That's how he met me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3883.0,3891.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: [Unintelligible.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3891.0,3893.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: So, it would have been in Columbus that you had your first date?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3893.0,3897.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: With her?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3897.0,3898.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3898.0,3898.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Yes, sure. I didn't know her till I got to Columbus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3898.0,3901.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Well, I understand that. My question was about your first date. So, it was in Columbus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3901.0,3905.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3905.0,3905.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3905.0,3909.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Of course, she was a camp follower. She came to … Didn't you come to [Camp] Wheeler and Macon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3909.0,3913.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: I did right before you left to go overseas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3913.0,3915.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3915.0,3917.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: What did your mom do about maintaining a Jewish household? There was not a way that she could keep kosher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3917.0,3924.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: She did not. She never kept kosher, did she?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3924.0,3928.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: She never had any pork in that house, so … She never had pork in that house, but she didn't keep kosher. She may have before I got into the picture, but I don't ever know of her keeping kosher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3928.0,3943.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I have no idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3943.0,3945.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3945.0,3945.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: No idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3945.0,3950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: I think that is pretty much it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3950.0,3952.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth: Yes. I guess the only thing I would wonder is, you know, you had three generations in Barnesville and how or if your kids ever … if you noticed that your kids had any kind of different experience throughout these generations with, you know, anything in school, or whether they liked it, or didn't like it, or …","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3952.0,3972.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: I do not. My son went through the military part. He was a big boy and when he was getting out of high school, he was a football player, and he had offers to go to here, there, and yonder. And one of them was West Point and he wouldn't even hear of it. He didn't want anything to do with military. He was tired of having to shine his shoes, he was tired of that, and he wouldn't even listen to them. Diane went to the usual things, and she went to University of Georgia [in Athens, Georgia]. Steve went to Harvard [University in Cambridge, Massachusetts] and she … She joined a Jewish sorority there, whatever it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=3972.0,4029.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Are they both here in Atlanta?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=4029.0,4032.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Yes, Steve went to Harvard, then he came back to Emory [University] Law School [in Atlanta]. Diane went to Georgia, got her … went all the way through the masters [degree]. Then, she moved to Omaha, Nebraska, following her boyfriend out there. And then, after she worked there for a couple of years, she called one day and says, \"I think I want to go to medical school.\" I said, \"Diane, you ain't got a chance in hell going to medical school. You never took any biology courses or anything.\" [She said,] \"Well, I can take them at night.\" Now, Diane is a very independent young lady. She started going to school at night until she finally got to the point where she had to have a quarter of campus day stuff. She did that, and then by that time, she was considered a citizen of Nebraska because she changed her registration. So, she applied for medical school. She was working actually for the medical college. She was a psychiatric social worker or something. And she went to medical school. At that time, they had a three-year program—only one in the country, I think. She went through the three-year program, was able to get on here at Emory for an internship, and so forth, and settled here. But we didn't pressure them either way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=4032.0,4120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: How old are the children?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=4120.0,4123.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Diane was born in 1950, and Steve was born 1952, so you figure it out. I can't keep up with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=4123.0,4129.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jeanne: Fifty-seven and 55.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=4129.0,4131.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry: Is that what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=4131.0,4131.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/transcript/92491/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael: Okay, fifty-seven and 55. Well, I want to thank you for letting us come into your home and your sharing stories about Barnesville. It means a lot to us, and I know it will mean a lot the public when they see this as well. Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=4131.0,4149.01153"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/annotation_set/2464","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Annotations [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/annotation_set/2464/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBialystok is the largest city in northeastern Poland and the capital of the Podlaski Voivodeship. It is located approximately 118 miles (190 kilometers) northeast of Warsaw and just 30 miles (48 kilometers) west of the present-day Belarus border. The city was chartered in 1692 and today is a leading center for academic, cultural, artistic, and activities in northeastern Poland. In 2025, its population was estimated at approximately 295,000 residents, making it a significant urban hub in the region. Over the centuries, the city’s national affiliation has changed several times, having been part of Lithuania, Russia, and Belarus at different periods. Since 1945, Bialystok has belonged to Poland.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=50.0,92.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/annotation_set/2464/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eYashinovka is the Yiddish name of Jasionówka [Polish; Russian: Yasienuvka], a small village in northeast Poland. It is located 32 kilometers (20 miles) north-northwest of Białystok. The first Jews settled in Jasionówce in the 16th century. In 1939, on the eve of World War II, there were more than 1,500 Jews living in Jasionówka. Only 80 survived the Holocaust and returned after the war. All soon left for Palestine (Israel) and other countries in the West, however. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=50.0,92.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/annotation_set/2464/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAt the time, Bialystok was located in the Pale of Settlement, a region in the western part of the Russian Empire established in 1791 where Jews were required to reside. Encompassing parts of present-day Belarus, Lithuania, Moldova, Ukraine, and Poland, the region comprised about 20 percent of the territory governed by tsarist Russia. By the late nineteenth century, nearly 95 percent of the Russian Empire’s 5.3 million Jews lived there. Strict regulations prohibited them from living in rural areas and certain cities or purchasing land, as well as limited their occupations and educational opportunities, resulting in widespread poverty but fostering a distinct Jewish culture. Rarely, exceptions were made for land ownership, usually for those involved in agricultural initiatives or who had served in the military. These rights were limited, could easily be revoked, and typically required ongoing residency and cultivation. Failure to meet these terms meant losing those rights. The Pale was abolished in 1917, enabling Jews to live anywhere in the former empire, but it remained an important center of Jewish communal life until World War II. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=93.0,247.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/annotation_set/2464/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eYeshiva [Hebrew: sitting] is a Jewish educational institution for religious instruction that is equivalent to high school. It also refers to a Talmudic college for unmarried male students from their teenage years to their early twenties.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=261.0,316.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/annotation_set/2464/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eDuring the complex social and political setting of the 1905-1906 Russian Revolution, a massive wave of anti-Jewish pogroms occurred. At that time, Bialystok was situated in the western borderlands of the Russian Empire and around 75 percent of its population (over 47,000) were Jewish. A pogrom occurred in Bialystok in June 1906. Over the course of two days, \u003cbr\u003eat least 80 Jews were killed and at least 90 others injured. A later inquiry held both the local police and the central authorities to blame for the tragedy.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=317.0,418.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/annotation_set/2464/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe American Jewish Committee (AJC) was founded in 1906 to safeguard the welfare and security of Jews worldwide. It is one of the oldest Jewish advocacy organizations in the United States.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=317.0,418.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/annotation_set/2464/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eIn the early 20th-century Russian Empire, military service was governed by the 1874 statute of universal conscription. Men were drafted at age twenty, serving about six years before entering a lengthy reserve. The system aimed to build a vast trained reserve rather than a massive standing army, but it bred resentment, becoming both a driver of public unrest and a symbol of state oppression. Exemptions existed, yet they were unevenly applied, often discriminating against certain ethnic and religious groups, including Jews.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=421.0,813.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638/annotation_set/2464/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Russian Revolution refers to two periods of political unrest in the beginning of the 20th century. The Russian Revolution of 1905, also known as the First Russian Revolution, was a wave of mass political and social unrest. It included worker strikes, peasant unrest, and military mutinies. It coincided with a series of violent pogroms that saw many Jews emigrated from the Russian Empire. The First Russian Revolution did not overthrow the Tsarist autocracy or eliminate the restrictions placed on the Jewish population of the Pale of Settlement, but it did give rise to Russia's first democratically elected parliament and resulted in some improved opportunities for Jews within the Russian Empire. During the final phase of World War I, in 1917, another revolution took place, which replaced Russia's traditional monarchy with the world's first communist state. Although the new communist government replaced the centuries-old official antisemitism of the Tzars, deeply ingrained antisemitic attitudes made Jews suspects of potential opposition. Communist ideology asked Jews to assimilate and not to identify as anything but loyal to the state and religious leaders were jailed and executed as political enemies.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/168601/file/306638#t=421.0,813.0"}]}]}]}