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Rosenberg grew up with two brothers, Phil and John. He attended the University of Georgia under pre-med before switching to pre-dent and attending Emory University. However, he chose to switch paths, and went on to work alongside his father-in-law in the wholesale wine and spirits business in 1965 as a part of the Atlanta sales team. Rosenberg then moved to South Florida, where he gained experience in operation and sales, and later entering into his role as National Sale manager. Rosenberg is the current vice chairman of National Distributing Company. Outside of his role at National Distributing Company, Rosenberg is active in the Jewish community. He is a co-founder of  Atlanta’s Alfred and Adele Davis Academy, a board member of the Americans for Israel and Torah Community School Program, and board of trustee member of the William Breman Jewish History Museum. Rosenberg and his wife Dulcy Davis Rosenberg have three children together, a son Alan, and twins, Karen and Kenneth. \u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eRosenberg starts off the interview by discussing his upbringing in Atlanta, Georgia, throughout the forties and fifties. He compares his Jewish education and involvement from when he was growing up to the experiences of his children. Rosenberg goes on to detail his family history before switching to his own and recalling his time in college. He recounts his emergence in the wine and spirit business through his father-in-law, in which he moved to South Florida and learned about operation and sales. While in Florida, Rosenberg and his wife had three kids together. He goes on to reminisce about how he and his wife, Dulcy, met. After recounting his time in Florida, Rosenberg explores his experience coming back to Georgia. He talks about the Atlanta Jewish community and his involvement in organizations like the Breman. Rosenberg also discusses the social environment of the Atlanta Jewish community and compares the differences in Atlanta from when he was growing up.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28988"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Atlanta, Georgia (geographic term)","Miami, Florida (geographic)","Wines and Spirit Business (topical term)","Breman Museum (corporate name)","Jewish Day School (topical term)","Jewish Education (topical term)","The Temple (corporate name)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJerry Rosenberg interviewed by Sandy Berman on May 26, 2010, in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eJerry Rosenberg was born on March 30, 1943 to Herbert Jerome Rosenberg, Jr and Elinor Angel Breman in Atlanta, Georgia. Rosenberg grew up with two brothers, Phil and John. He attended the University of Georgia under pre-med before switching to pre-dent and attending Emory University. However, he chose to switch paths, and went on to work alongside his father-in-law in the wholesale wine and spirits business in 1965 as a part of the Atlanta sales team. Rosenberg then moved to South Florida, where he gained experience in operation and sales, and later entering into his role as National Sale manager. Rosenberg is the current vice chairman of National Distributing Company. Outside of his role at National Distributing Company, Rosenberg is active in the Jewish community. He is a co-founder of \u0026nbsp;Atlanta\u0026rsquo;s Alfred and Adele Davis Academy, a board member of the Americans for Israel and Torah Community School Program, and board of trustee member of the William Breman Jewish History Museum. Rosenberg and his wife Dulcy Davis Rosenberg have three children together, a son Alan, and twins, Karen and Kenneth.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eRosenberg starts off the interview by discussing his upbringing in Atlanta, Georgia, throughout the forties and fifties. He compares his Jewish education and involvement from when he was growing up to the experiences of his children. Rosenberg goes on to detail his family history before switching to his own and recalling his time in college. He recounts his emergence in the wine and spirit business through his father-in-law, in which he moved to South Florida and learned about operation and sales. While in Florida, Rosenberg and his wife had three kids together. He goes on to reminisce about how he and his wife, Dulcy, met. After recounting his time in Florida, Rosenberg explores his experience coming back to Georgia. He talks about the Atlanta Jewish community and his involvement in organizations like the Breman. Rosenberg also discusses the social environment of the Atlanta Jewish community and compares the differences in Atlanta from when he was growing up.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/170/549/small/Rosenberg_Jerry.mp4_1667944293.jpg?1667944295","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Rosenberg_Jerry.mp4"]},"duration":5456.022,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/170/549/small/Rosenberg_Jerry.mp4_1667944293.jpg?1667944295","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-thebreman.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/170/549/original/Rosenberg_Jerry.mp4?1667944289","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":5456.022,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Rosenberg, Jerry [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: Today is May 26, 2010. I am Sandy Berman, the archivist for the\nWilliam Breman Jewish Heritage Museum, and I am sitting here with Jerry\nRosenberg, who has agreed to be interviewed for the Esther and Herbert Taylor\nOral History Project of the Museum. I'd like to thank you for being here, and\nI'd like to begin by asking you where you were born and when you were born.\n\nROSENBERG: In Atlanta, Georgia, at Emory University Hospital, March 30, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1943.\n\nBERMAN: Your parents' names?\n\nROSENBERG: Herbert Rosenberg Jr. And Eleanor Angel Rosenberg Freeman.\n\nBERMAN: Siblings and any brothers?\n\nROSENBERG: I have two brothers, a middle brother, Phil Rosenberg, and a younger\nbrother, John.\n\nBERMAN: If we could go back to your earliest memories. I have to talk a little\nbit about just growing up in Atlanta and beginning in the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"forties, going through\nthe fifties. What was your neighborhood like?\n\nROSENBERG: Totally different from today. We lived over in the Buckhead area and\nthe homes were very close to each other and the neighborhood, everybody knew\neveryone, and the doors weren't locked. Parents went to each other's houses in\nthe evening. The children were able to be left alone. It was a much more open\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"society. No level of fear for the children or home invasion or whatever. From\nwhat I remember of it, I had a great time. A great time growing up.\n\nBERMAN: Did you go to public school?\n\nROSENBERG: Yeah, I went to Garden Hills Elementary School. Then ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I went to E\nRivers. From E Rivers, I went to Morris Brandon Elementary School. Then I went\nto North Side High School. From North Side High School, remembering that I was\ncoming up during the integration segregation crisis, when Orval Faubus decided\nto close the Arizona the Arkansas schools, and we were concerned that that was\ngoing to happen in Georgia. My parents got me into Marist, so I finished my high\nschool at Marist College High School, which was a Catholic high school ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and a\nmilitary school.\n\nBERMAN: What Street were you on in Buckhead?\n\nROSENBERG: We lived, we started on Hearse Drive, which was off of Lenox Road. I\ndon't remember very much of that because I think we moved around the time I was\nmaybe four or five and then we moved over to GA to garden Hills. I honestly\ndon't remember the name of the street. That's not good.\n\nBERMAN: That's okay.\n\nROSENBERG: I don't remember the name of the street, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but we were there, and\nthat's when I went to Garden Hills Elementary School.\n\nBERMAN: What was the neighborhood like? Was it a lot of Jewish families or\nmostly mixed or . . .\n\nROSENBERG: It was mixed. We had probably two or three Jewish neighbors, but the\nbulk of the others were just nice, very nice people. Never quite could figure us\nout, but that was fine because it didn't seem to matter.\n\nBERMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did you go to the Temple?\n\nROSENBERG: Always. I've always gone to the Temple. I was confirmed at the\nTemple, married at the Temple. [I] started with Jacob Rothschild. He was the\nrabbi at the time that I remember going there. Actually, David Marx was probably\nthere when I was much younger, but that didn't mean anything to me. Rabbi\nRothschild left a lasting impression upon me. Again, he married us, and he\nconfirmed it. Confirmed ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me.\n\nBERMAN: As long as you're speaking about him. What kind of lasting impression\ndid he leave on you?\n\nROSENBERG: Very Reform. Back in that time, Atlanta, the Reform movement was a\nvery Reform at the Temple. I kiddingly was called a Christian Jew. I mean, a lot\nof us were in our school environment because we tried so hard to assimilate. Our\nparents tried and my father, being ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the men and boys clothing business at the\nBuckhead Men's Shop, he felt it was pretty important because most of his clients\nwere non-Jewish individuals. They cared a great deal about my father and that\nhelped me, I think, get into that environment. I probably would have had a more\ndifficult time. I mean, that happened. Back to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rabbi Rothschild, he was a person\nthat you looked up to as a as a young person with awe and fear at times. He had\na way of instilling fear in the younger group of his congregation. I think that\nall of us that were under his tutelage learned a great deal about the religion\nfrom ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his perspective because a synagogue is the rabbi and they come from all\ndifferent directions. There were things that we missed as a young Jewish Reform\ncongregant. I mean, we did not learn Hebrew. We did not, there were no bar\nmitzvahs. He didn't allow that in the Temple. We were married in the Temple. We\nwere not allowed to have a hoopa. He didn't believe in that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He just felt this\nthe Reform movement, he was coming from a different direction. Which is\ninteresting because Alvin Sugarman has evolved a long way from his mentor in retrospect.\n\nBERMAN: How do you feel about that? Do you think you missed out on . . .\n\nROSENBERG: Yes, I [don't] think there's any question about it. I've got,\nobviously, you know my wife and her brother Jay, founded, co-founded the Davis\nAcademy. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Part of the reason was to give another opportunity or option to the\nReform children. Be they from marriages where both individuals were Jewish, or\nthey were mixed marriages. [To] give them a platform that they felt comfortable\nwith, a religious option. It was a Jewish religious option. It taught, but there\nis religion in it, and it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"taught my grandchildren, and they know Hebrew.\nBasically, up to this point the 14-year-old is pretty fluent in it. What I've\nlearned is when I have gone to like his bat mitzvah or bar mitzvah last year, it\njust blew me away because then you start to realize what you've missed. That's\nwhen it really started to hit me, what I had missed growing up.\n\nBERMAN: He had; Rabbi Rothschild ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"also had such an important place in the\ncommunity at large. Do you remember any kind of, I mean, what was what was it\nlike being a Temple member when everything was going on with, for instance, the\nTemple bombing? Was there a fear going through the Reform community?\n\nROSENBERG: You could, I could see it in my parents when it happened. I won't\nrepeat what my reaction was when my mother came in that morning to tell me what\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"happened, because I believe it was the day that we would have gone to what we\ncall Saturday school instead of Sunday school. It definitely had an impact. It\nchanged and we then started to realize the involvement that the Temple and Rabbi\nRothschild had in the Martin Luther King era and how hard that he had worked for\na long period of time. I remember I was like, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gosh, I don't remember what year\nit happened yet. If it happened in 1958, that was, what, a long time ago? I'm 66\nnow. I mean, it happened a long time ago. We looked at I looked at it as a young\nperson, at a pretty a 14, 15-year-old person. I didn't see it quite the way the\nparents saw it, but we knew that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something of a catastrophic nature had occurred.\n\nBERMAN: Did you feel it all differently in school? Did you feel any kind of . .\n. more of a poor overt antisemitism because of it? Was there more of a of\nsupport from your friends?\n\nROSENBERG: It was kind of strange because every child in their own school has\ntheir own group of friends. I have a lot, had a lot of non-Jewish friends. Their\nfirst reaction the following week was they said, \"We're ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sorry.\" I'm sure a lot\nof people my age that had gone through this would have heard, I think in\nAtlanta, a lot of the same now from the general school environment. I couldn't\ntell you because you don't know. The people that cared about you and you cared\nabout, they didn't have to say anything. They were very quick to say something.\n\nBERMAN: Speaking of friends, did you did you hang out with more friends from\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"school, Jewish and non-Jewish, or were most of your friends from the Temple?\n\nROSENBERG: From my history of school, I had a mixed group, but I had some very\nclose friends growing up Steve Selig, Andy Gardner, Steve Weinstein. These are\nkind of guys that we grew up [with]. We were very involved, and we didn't\nnecessarily go to the same school at that time. When I wound up going to Marist,\nwhich was a Catholic school, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"now we had a few Jewish students, but I had the\nopportunity to spend a lot of time with not just non-Jewish students and not\njust Catholic students. It was a very interesting change for me because you got\nan opportunity to see what that there is a dramatic difference and you could\nfeel sometimes the undercurrent of antisemitism now, because at that point I was\na little older ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I graduated from there. . . . You could sneak up on groups\nand you could hear things. Of course, if they caught the fact that you had just\nwalked up, they would turn to you and said, \"We don't really mean you,\" and you\nknow the kind of things they were saying. This was, it was a, it had a very\nantisemitic strain in this community and in Atlanta. As hard as they ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tried and\nas hard as this city tried, it was there. It was absolutely there. I made\nlifelong non-Jewish friends, and I made them because of that. Because then when\nI went to college, although I was in a Jewish fraternity in Phi Ep [Phi Epsilon\nPi], which became ZBT [Zeta Beta Tau].\n\nBERMAN: What school?\n\nROSENBERG: University of Georgia. I had friends that went there that were not\nJewish. It gave us the opportunity to not only be in a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish fraternity, which\nwas kind of the thing to do back in 1961 when I went to Georgia. we had these\nfriends that were in SAE [Sigma Alpha Epsilon] and all these other fraternities,\nso we got a chance to inter-mesh with them. At that point, the level of\nantisemitism in college, because these were coming from all over the country,\nall over parts of Georgia. There were some pretty serious antisemitic strains\nwithin that university.\n\nBERMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=720.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you recall any specific incidents?\n\nROSENBERG: No. I think they, as I remember, on one of the Jewish sororities\nlawns once they poured salt and a swastika while I was at college there. It\nwasn't a constant scenario. . . . It wasn't the whole university. There's groups\nof people everywhere. This just gave the opportunity ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=750.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of people being there from\nevery part of Georgia, some of them who never met a Jew in their life. In fact,\nwhen I was a freshman in the in the dorm, we went around and started introducing\nourselves to all of them. Then when some of them found out that we were Jewish,\nbecause I think Andy Gaertner and I were roommates, it was like, wow, I've never\nseen one of those before. You know, like, we're something. Where are the horns?\nYou know, where the pointed ears. They never said that. You knew that they was\nlooking at you like, well, he looks just like me. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=780.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was interesting. It\nformulates the rest of your life if you really pay attention to what's going on.\n\nBERMAN: Getting back to your family and your parents. Actually, one generation\nback. Do you have any, did you know Herbert Rosenberg Sr. the . . . ?\n\nROSENBERG: My grandfather was, the story I hear, and I'm not going to tell you\nthe gospel, but the story I heard is, he was the first Jewish ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"doctor in Atlanta,\nand he practiced for 50 years. He was, if you have, as a very young person, a\nperson that you don't just look up to, but you literally revere them. He was,\nDr. Pops was that person because and his wife, Rosalie Loeb Rosenberg, who had\ncome from the Loeb family in Atlanta, who had been in the manufacturing business\nhere and had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=840.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"owned Marcus Loeb and Company for years. Because he was the Jewish\ndoctor, the family doctor who in the middle of the night would get in his car if\nsomeone was sick, child or parent, and be at their bedside and take his wife\nwith him because that's who they who that how they lived. For years and years\nafter he stopped practicing, I would walk into a room and someone would\nintroduce me and they would go, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Are you related to Dr. Rosenberg?\" I'd go,\n\"Yeah,\" and you get a story. I always said to him, when I got older and I was in\ncollege and I said, \"You know, you could have been a wealthy man, Dr. Pops.\" He\nsaid, \"Money never mattered to me.\" He said, \"I needed to help people.\" He got\npaid with chicken soup, chickens, whatever the patient felt they could give. He\nwould not, he wouldn't give them a bill when they finished. When he finished\nwith it, he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would not give them a bill because that's not the kind of doctor he\nwas. He was a great man.\n\nBERMAN: We have all of his medical instruments now.\n\nROSENBERG: I know you do.\n\nBERMAN: It's great.\n\nROSENBERG: Now, from my mother's side, because the war was going on when I was\nthat little, I had to be parked somewhere while she was running around the\ncountry trying to catch up with my father in the Navy. We would, she would part\nme a lot in Chattanooga [Georgia]. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember taking the train, I think it was\ncalled a silver bullet or something. I think it was sometimes from downtown and\nsometimes from Brookwood Station, and I would go there. I spent a lot of time\nwith mother's father and mother, and it was a whole different world because\nChattanooga was a different world. My grandfather . . .\n\nBERMAN: What were their names?\n\nROSENBERG: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nana was our . . . you ask me a question and for some reason I don't\n. . . grandpa, I mean, that's who they were to me. His name was Phil Angel. He\nwas in the printing business in Chattanooga, much smaller town. He was president\nof their Temple, and he was there with Reform. I got to go to the Temple there\nand the Temple in Atlanta and intermingle with all those people. Again, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was\nvery young at the time, so I can't tell you a whole lot about it. I just\nremember how good at people they were. Mother had two sisters, Jane Angel Wheel,\nwho's passed away, and Seeley Angel Hellman [sp], who's still alive and lives in\nColumbus, Georgia. Seeley and I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are ten years apart. When we were much younger,\nwe became the best of friends. She was, I was kind of her little brother because\nthey had, they were all girls. They had to show me how to play with dolls and\nthings of that nature. You remember things in life. I remember the piano they\nhad in the back of their house because all three girls had to take piano\nlessons. Mother can play, Jean could play, Seeley can play. I used to play\nwonderfully. I don't know about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anymore. I really had a luxury and the\nopportunity to spend a great deal of time with both sides of my grandparents.\nMore on this side because we lived in Atlanta, but a lot more on the Chattanooga\nside. Probably I can, the war allowed me the opportunity to do that more than\nanything else.\n\nBERMAN: How old were you when your father went off to war?\n\nROSENBERG: I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wasn't a year. I'd say I was born in March 1943. He was already in\nthe Navy. We have pictures together. I think I was about three months old, and I\nthink he had just come back from basic training. It was pretty quickly after in\nthe first year of my life that my father was gone in the war.\n\nBERMAN: I want to backtrack one more ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"moment, because you mentioned something\nthat was intriguing to me about the Loeb side and Marcus Loeb. How were the\nHases's [sp] and the Loeb's? They were in business together . . .\n\nROSENBERG: Sisters.\n\nBERMAN: Okay.\n\nROSENBERG: The Hases sister . . . the Hases grandmother was a Loeb. She was a\nsister of, if I'm getting the story right, she was the sister of my grandmother,\nRosalie ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Loeb. There were, my grandfather and one of his brothers, who ran, who\nand at one point ran Marcus Loeb. The two brothers married two Loeb sisters. The\nbrothers married the sisters.\n\nBERMAN: What happened to Marcus Loeb?\n\nROSENBERG: Marcus Loeb was sold. I believe JKS [sp] was running it at the time.\nActually, it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was sold to a company that still exists today, Oxford Manufacturing\nthat owns Tommy Bahama and some other brands, was bought years and years and\nyears ago. The reason it was able to be sold is because they became the primary\nclothes producer for Sears Roebuck under the Sears, their private labels. It\nmade it a huge, huge business at the right time.\n\nBERMAN: You also mentioned, so tell me more about what your ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"father did. He\nworked at the Buckhead Men Shop . . . .\n\nROSENBERG: My father was a traveling salesman for Marcus Loeb for years and\nyears. Then he and my uncle Lehman Rosenberg [sp] and my cousin Cecil Marks\nopened up the Buckhead Men's Shop together. Dad was still traveling full time\nand Cecil and Lehman ran the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"store. Then about then, over a period of a few\nyears, Lehman decided he wanted to leave, and he was going to open up his own\nshops, which were Lee's Men Shops [sp]. Dad had quit the road sometime right\naround then and came in working full time with Cecil in the Buckhead Men's Shop.\n\nBERMAN: How long did they have the Buckhead Men's Shop?\n\nROSENBERG: Probably from the time I was about seven or eight years old ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"until\nafter I was married in my mid-twenties. Probably 17, 18 years. Then my father\nsold out to Cecil Marks and Cecil ran it until Buckhead turned into a place for\nbars there, which time he rented them out. The Buckhead Men Shop become some ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"saloon.\n\nBERMAN: It's not there anymore. I don't even know . . .\n\nROSENBERG: No that whole block is part of what was destroyed. What's been\ndestroyed to be rebuilt, which was pretty gut wrenching for us.\n\nBERMAN: I'm sure. I'm sure. Because it's still around the name, though.\n\nROSENBERG: Yeah, what they do now is they have a uniform business. They do\nalmost all of the private schools', uniform business. It's the Buckhead, I\nbelieve it's still called the Buckhead Men's Shop Uniform or Buckhead Uniform\nShop. It's the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mark's family, the, one of the daughters. She still is the owner\nof it with her husband. Yeah, it's still there.\n\nBERMAN: It's amazing.\n\nROSENBERG: All my children bought their uniforms from there and my grandchildren\nare buying it today.\n\nBERMAN: That's great.\n\nROSENBERG: It's pretty amazing.\n\nBERMAN: That is funny. It's really funny. Okay and then your mother, she went\ninto the real estate business. Can you talk a little bit about that? Because I\nknow she had a very illustrious career.\n\nROSENBERG: My mother had a wild career. My mother, when I was in high school,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1350.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she had always been an art lover. What she did is, she had got, she got very\ninvolved with a lot of the young and upcoming artists here in Atlanta that were\nAtlanta based artists, I can't say they're all from Atlanta. At some point, she\ndecided to open up an art gallery, and she did that for a fairly good period of time.\n\nBERMAN: What was it called?\n\nROSENBERG: I have no earthly idea, but I know where you could find ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out. Anyway,\nshe did that for a while. Then I believe, Mom and I talked about this the other\nday, when she was like in her late forties, early fifties . . . we were\nobviously, all three boys were gone and she just, mother always like to do this.\nShe wanted to reinvent herself. She decided from left field, having got nothing\nbut graduating high school to be married, literally right out of high school.\nShe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"went to real estate school and wound up getting her license and I believe\ngoing to work initially with North, I believe it was North Side Realty and then\nultimately wound up at Harry Norman and was wildly successful and was actually\nstill selling residential real estate when she met Bill Breman. I mean, she, she\ndid it for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"probably close to 20 years. She was a real estate salesman.\n\nBERMAN: I know she was there million . . .\n\nROSENBERG: So many times she was. She won the Phenix Award, which was the\nhighest honor that's given. I think you have to win, you have to be\nmillion-dollar, member of the million-dollar roundtable, I believe, for ten\nstraight years in order to do it. She got that award. We were not living here at\nthe time. We flew in from South Florida because I remember going to that. My\nmother really had worked hard at ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reinventing herself in the last part of her\nlife that she's living, has lived the last, what, 12 years or so has been a\nmiracle for her and a blessing for her families. All of our families, my\nbrothers, myself. Although we had known the Breman family forever because the\nBreman family lived on West Wesley, literally next door to my wife's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"family. The\nfamily goes back, having known each other for a long, long time.\n\nBERMAN: When did your father pass away?\n\nROSENBERG: I'd say he died when he was seventy-four. Which was about 1990 . . .\nlet's say 1991 or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1992.\n\nBERMAN: I know I've spoken to your mother many times, and she wrote a little\nstory that I promised I wouldn't show anybody until much later, but about how\nshe met Bill and her relationship with him. It was it was really a wonderful\nstory. I know that that they had a number of ten, I think, really good years ,\nwasn't it\u003e\n\nROSENBERG: I don't remember if it was seven or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ten. The interesting story is at\nthe time, Steve Wein, Stevie Weinstein's wife, Jane, they were still married,\nand she knew my mother very well. She had; she knew Bill from going to a lot of\nthe Jewish functions. She knew my mother would stay home every night and watch\nPeter Jennings, because at that point in my mother's life, she was not planning\non trying to reinvent herself. She felt she'd spend the next part of her ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"life\nhelping to raise her grandchildren and, you know, being part of that. There was\nan event, some Jewish event, and somehow, she got to Bill because she knew Bill\nhad lost his wife and that he was going through a very difficult time. Carol\nNimmo, his daughter, was very worried about him. She, Jane gave Bill, as I\nremember, either Bill or mother. I think he gave ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mother the tickets and said to\nmother, \"You know, Bill goes to all of these kinds of events. What have you got\nto lose? Why don't you pick up the phone and call Bill and see if he'd like to\ngo with you too.\" It was obviously one of the Jewish philanthropic functions\nthat Bill would go to, for sure. The rest is history. I mean, that's literally\nhow it happened.\n\nBERMAN: That's great. I love that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"story. Now I want to get more into your own\npersonal history. You went to University of Georgia, and what was your area of interest?\n\nROSENBERG: Having a grandfather who was a doctor, I had been told since I was\nthe eldest grandson that I was going to go into medicine at some time. I never\ngave it a great deal of thought, except that's what I was going to do. When I\nwent to the University of Georgia, I went in, in pre-med in 1961 and decided\nafter probably ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a year that maybe that's not what I wanted to do. Staying in some\nfull field of medicine, I started to move to pre-dent. After being in Georgia\n[for] three years got accepted to Emory Dental School. I think that was at the\ntime they had a dental school and only went there for a year before I realized\nthat other people can't tell you what you need to do with your life. At some\npoint you have to decide what you want to do with your life. Of course, it\ndidn't hurt that I had dated ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my wife for, gosh, from high school from the time\nshe was 13.\n\nBERMAN: Your wife's name?\n\nROSENBERG: Dulcy. It was Dulcy Davis. It's Dulcy Davis Rosenberg and her mother\nand father were Al and Adele Davis and had the opportunity to spend time with\nher. Her dad was in the wholesale wine and spirits business. It was pretty neat\nbusiness because she got to go out all the time and it just looked like it was\nit was a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fun type of a business and I'm in it and it is a fun type of business.\nThis is 46 years later, and I love it. When I decided that I wasn't going to go\ncontinue in dentistry, I really thought I'd go into the men and boys clothing\nbusiness. I mean that I knew that business. I had worked in there since I was 13\non weekends and then even when I was at Georgia, I'd come home on the weekends\nand I'd work on Saturdays there, and he'd give me a little spending money. More\nimportantly, I got to see all ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my old friends that would come in there to buy\nstuff. They were all at different colleges. It was great. It was like a meeting\nground. Anyway, that's what I thought I was going to do. I started working\nthere. Then one day I get a phone call from my father-in-law, Al Davis, and [he]\nsaid, \"Let's have lunch.\" I'm not going to turn my father-in-law down. We had\nlunch and he said, \"How would you like to go into this business?\" I said, \"Well,\nI've never really given any thought.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He said, \"Well, you need to give it some\nserious thought. He says \"Slick Selleck's [sp], who was Steve Selleck's father,\nand I've had a long conversation and I agree. Maybe this is what you ought to\ndo, because we want to grow this business and we need more family in the\nbusiness. And you're, you know, you're over 21 so you can legally drink and\nyou're trying to make that next decision in your life. And why don't you try\nthis? If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.\" Yes, it obviously ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"worked.\n\nBERMAN: What position did you start it?\n\nROSENBERG: About as low as you could get. He said, \"You want to learn this\nbusiness. [There] Is only one way to learn it and that's from the bottom up.\" I\nhave taken that my entire life with my children and run with it. They started me\nin the warehouse loading trucks, and I did that for probably a year plus. Then\nwe had the old computer systems where you would have cards that you would pull\nto place orders, and they said, \"Okay, now you can ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go into that.\" I went into\nthat for six or eight months and then they said, \"Okay, we think you have that\ndown. You can now go into our customer service, and you can take orders on the\ntelephone,\" which I did for maybe three or four months. Then they said, \"Okay,\nnow let's go out and you can become a salesman. We'll let you be a trainee,\nyou'll work with another salesman, and then we'll give you a small territory and\nwe'll see what happens.\" I really enjoyed it. I mean, I liked meeting people,\nalways liked meeting people. It gave ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me the opportunity to be out in Atlanta and\nMacon [Georgia] and surrounding area and made all kinds of characters in the\nbusiness. I was doing that and then my wife got pregnant in 1966. I was just\ncontinuing to do what I was doing. I got a call up to his ivory tower one\nafternoon in Atlanta, and it was late afternoon. 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Your daughter ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is\nlike six months pregnant. You sure this is going to be, okay?\" He said,\n\"Probably not with her, but it's what we need to do.\" I then had to go home. Oh,\nand he said, \"And don't worry about your apartment. You just lock the door when\nyou leave. And we've got a place in South Florida on the beach, and you'll get a\ncompany apartment. You just stay there until you find a place to live and all\nthat stuff.\" I'm going to go home and tell my wife who six months pregnant ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that\nI'm leaving the next day to go to South Florida, and then she'll be coming down\nafter she has a chance to get everything organized and go wind up having our\nchild there, which was a stroke of genius on my father in law's part. It was\nprobably, looking back, the best thing that ever happened to us, because what it\ngave us a chance was to get out from under our parent's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2010.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"shadow, stand on our own\ntwo feet. Although we were like, let's say 20, I think Dulcy was like, you have\nto think for a moment, 23 and I was 24. It gave us a chance to really get to\nknow each other because, I mean, we dated and we live, but we were always over\nat our parents' house for dinner, one or the other, because we never had enough\nmoney to make it through the end of the month. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we realized we'd run out, we\nwere running out of money during the month. My wife would call both sides and\nsay, \"What are you having for dinner?\" We would then pick which side to go to,\nwhich was kind of the Jewish way. We had to leave all of that. We had no\nsecurity net in Florida. We had to make all new friends. My wife had to find a\nnew doctor for my son to be born. We really had to make it on our ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"own and. When\nhe said I needed you in South Florida, he was dead serious because I must have\nworked 20 hours a day. I mean, we had bought two companies, put them together,\nand we had had enough issues that we needed somebody that, even as immature as I\nwas in the business, was a lot better than what he had. I worked all the time.\nMy wife had to fend for herself, make friends during the day, and do all the\nthings that were necessary. She made ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2100.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some great friends while we were there. One\nof the girlfriends she's met and made friends with son is Jeff Zucker, who's\npresident of NBC, who grew up with my older son. They were our next-door\nneighbors in South Florida, and they become forever friends. Arlene [sp] and my\nwife, I mean, they are forever. They talk just about every single day of the\nweek. We learned how to be closer together, depend on each other ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for things and\ngo to the next chapter of our lives.\n\nBERMAN: How long were you in Florida?\n\nROSENBERG: Too long. If my father-in-law was alive, I'd tell him to his face. I\nwas guaranteed that in two years I'd be back because someone else was coming out\nof the service and they would be back there at 19 years later. In 1985. I came\nback to Atlanta.\n\nBERMAN: Wow.\n\nROSENBERG: Yeah, that's what my wife says all the time. Wow. We had all three of\nour children, and we had our older son, Alan, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and our twins, Karen and Kenneth\nall were born at Mount Sinai Hospital in Miami [Florida] on the beach. My oldest\nson graduated from high school in South Florida, and my twins, we brought back\nto Atlanta when they were 13. They graduated high school here in Atlanta.\n\nBERMAN: How was it working for your father-in-law all those years?\n\nROSENBERG: Probably about, the poison would have been tougher. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's about the\nonly thing. Sometimes I felt like taking it. Anyone that ever looked back in\nyour archives and saw this and just saw nothing but the blip about my\nfather-in-law being Al Davis would have totally understood. He was a, he would\ngive you the shirt off his back as long as you weren't a member of the family.\nIf you were a member of the family, he was an incredible taskmaster. I think it\noccurred and evolved from just the generation. His parents were not ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"born in the\nU.S. They were refugees. They were immigrants. They lived in the Bronx [New\nYork]. His father was a haberdasher. He had, I believe, seven or eight brothers.\nI think there were seven or eight siblings in the family. He was, I believe, the\nyoungest boy he had for sure. One younger sister. He came from the streets and\nhis education was the street education. He went to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"yeshiva. His father's plan\nwas for him to be a rabbi. He wound up being about as far from being a rabbi as\nyou could get, but he really learned what it took to be successful. He was not\nof great height, but he was of great stature, and he was probably only 5' 6 at\nthe most. He would come into a room, and you would have thought he was 6' 10.\n\nBERMAN: How did he end up down here? We were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"discussing before the tape change\nyour father-in-law what it was like to work for [him]. You said he was small in\nheight and . . .\n\nROSENBERG: And large in stature. He was incredibly demanding because he wanted\nany of his family members that were in the business to be as good as him or\nbetter than him. His idea of how good he was and our idea of how good he was\nsometimes ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"differed, and he would start later. Later on, after I had been in the\nbusiness for a number of years in Florida and in Florida, I had gone through\nbeing an administrative assistant to the managing director of the operation, to\nthe general sales manager, to actually the managing director. I'd evolved\nthrough a number of stages over that tenure that I was there, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was not, I\nguess it was just my upbringing. I never learned how to be a yes man. I really\nthought you gain nothing out of being a yes man, that you needed to speak your\nmind, even if it could get you in trouble. If you were fairly confident of the\nground you was standing on at the time, you were doing it because you don't want\nto make a fool of yourself. He later on, after I was ten years in the managing\ndirector cheer and I'd say after two or three years he would start every\nconversation with, \"And I know you're not going to agree with me.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then he would\nhead off on where he was. Now, what turned out is nine out of ten times he was\nright on. He was right on because he saw the business from 40,000 feet. I was\nliving it under a microscope, 24/7. He had the ability to be able to stand back\nand evaluate all the pieces were I was too focused on a piece. Anyway, he was\nvery tough. Very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2400.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"successful. He had two kinds of individuals that he was\nassociated with, those that loved him and those that hated him. It was very\ntough for him in middle ground because that's not the kind of person he was. We\nlook back and I say, we should be extremely thankful because he came through an\nentirely different generation, and he certainly came through a different\ngeneration in our industry that I'm in today. He couldn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"function in the\nindustry today. It's changed way beyond. Then that's why there's a generation\nafter generation, because they have to evolve as businesses evolve. He was the\nright man in the right place at the right time to be successful in our industry.\nHe was successful.\n\nBERMAN: Now, was he a member of the Temple also?\n\nROSENBERG: They were a member of the Temple. They were a member with the AA\n[Ahavath Achim]. His background was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Orthodox. They, I believe it may have been\nchanged, but they, when they built the AA that's now over on North Side and they\nhad their capital campaign. He donated to that because when we would go and not\ntoo long ago, we were there. They used; they did something Temple would never\nthink of doing. They had little plaques where you actually had your seats kind\nof based on what you gave. They still had the family area there at the AA. He\nwould go ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to services at the AA. Dulcy was a confirmed at the Temple. Their\nchildren went to the Temple. He felt, I think, probably more comfortable at the\nAA because there was more Hebrew. He understood in Hebrew. There was just a\nwhole different environment. I don't think he ever went to an or was a member of\nan Orthodox synagogue here in Atlanta. I could be wrong.\n\nBERMAN: What was your . . .\n\nROSENBERG: Where ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were we?\n\nBERMAN: I was asking you about your mother-in-law, Adele. What was she like?\n\nROSENBERG: One of the prettiest women, and I was a very young guy, that I'd ever\nseen. I could have seen why my father-in-law fell in love with her. She lived in\nAtlanta. Her last name was Berner. Now, they were Orthodox, and her father could\nspeak English, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but most of the time did not. He read the Hebrew newspaper every\nday. He was, he was not well, from the entire time I knew the grandparents. Her\ngrandfather, her father was never well. Adele's mother, Ethel, was a salt of the\nearth and salt of the family. I mean, she was just, held everything together.\nLater in life, when her husband passed ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"away, when Harry passed away. [He] show\nthe kind of people, certainly the kind of person that I was. I don't know what\nhappened behind closed doors, but Adele's mother moved in with them and lived\nthe last part of her life with them. Al, she was one of the few people that Al\nwould listen to. I mean, if Al said to him now, Al, that would stop him in his\ntracks. Nobody else could do that. 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Of course, they had a nanny\nnursery who probably back in those days, she probably did 80 percent of the\nraising of Dulcy and her brother Jay and was like truly part of the family as\nthose back then, the African Americans that were involved in a family ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for a\nlong, long time really became truly part of the family. Adele was the kind of\nperson that when she walked in a room, people would look. Very hourglass figure,\nblond, always immaculate to that, to the point of sometimes absurdity. Also, if\nyou ever see this and hear this, don't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"laugh, but she was very focused on both\nher son and her daughter. As a mother would be with the daughter, Dulcy had\nalways look exactly correct. From the shoes to the last piece of hair in her\nhead and that always leads to confrontations between a mother and a daughter.\nThe lucky ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thing that happened to us in our life is we came back in 1985 to\nAtlanta, unbeknownst to us, we're pretty sure her mom was terminally ill at the\ntime. Adele died in 87, I believe, June of 1987. It gave my older son, who had\ngone off to University of Texas, so he didn't spend a lot of time with her, but\nhe did as he was growing up because he was older. He could travel up here and he\ncould spend a little time with them. My ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2730.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"twins, it gave them the opportunity to\nspend some quality time, particularly my daughter with Adele, before she got\nreally ill and passed on. That was just a fluke. Things happen for a reason.\nShe, we moved back in 1985. It had nothing to do with her illness and in 1987,\nshe's gone. She was very close with her grandchildren. She loved her\ngrandchildren, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2760.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as I think most grandmothers do. She and Dulcy talked every day\nwhen we were away. They would talk every day when they were here, they would\ntalk every day. They never agree on very much, but they would talk every day.\nObviously, although I worked for my father-in-law, the fact that for 19 years I\nlived in south Florida and he lived in Atlanta, yes, we would spend ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2790.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time at\nmeetings, and he would come down on a fairly regular basis because they had a\nplace in South Florida, and they would spend two or three weeks there. Adele\nwould have a chance to spend time with my gran, with my excuse me, my children.\nIt wasn't like an in-your-face every day being with your father-in-law, which\nI've heard horror stories from some of my friends who have worked for their\nfather in laws. Some are great. Some have had unbelievable relationships. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They\ncan very, find a hard time finding a moment that there was an issue. I just\nknow, knowing my father-in-law as well as I did, that that would not have worked\nreally well. I told him late in life when he already had had two heart attacks\nand one open heart surgery. I said, \"You know, I view you as a father. You know,\nI had my father and I have him still. But I thought of you because you've given\nme so much advice as I grew up.\" He'd look at me and go, \"Son, you're full of\nit.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2850.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's not true, because that's not what he was brought up in. He wouldn't\nunderstand that. He just didn't understand that. I believed it truly and\nsincerely. I would have never said it to him. I wasn't trying to gain his favor.\nI figured if I worked and did a good job, I'd get as much favor as I was going\nto get because that's kind of how he is barometer of people, family or\notherwise. They were [indistinct: 48:25] very, very different from Herbie ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and\nEleanor, my parents, very different. They went to the Standard Club parties\ntogether. They knew each other. They weren't involved in at times socially, but\nthey were very different. It was amazing because gave me the opportunity to see\ntwo sides of the Jewish equation here in Atlanta. Different levels, different strata.\n\nBERMAN: That's interesting that they would have been at the Standard Club at the\nsame time ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that they were in the same social. Were they in the same social circle?\n\nROSENBERG: Because certain individuals within the circle, like Slick Seeley and\nmy father were roommates at Georgia and had grown up together in Atlanta streets\napart. Some of the involved, some of the society group that my father-in-law was\ninvolved with my father knew because their family had been here. My grandfather\nhad been the family doctor for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more of them than I could possibly count. There\nwas that was kind of the, truly the environment, because it transcended whether\nyou were rich or poor, it wasn't what you had materially. My father and my\ngrandfather was the doctor to all of them when they were younger, and he was\nyounger. He was the doctor to their parents, to Slick's parents and those kinds\nof people. That is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kind of how the connection occurred. It just kind of stayed\nthere but the fact that I met my wife and married, it was a fluke. It just\nhappened and it happened for a reason. It was at a birthday party for one of her\ngirlfriends and I met her and liked her, but for two years we didn't even speak.\nFrom the time we were 13 to 15, I didn't date my wife. I didn't hardly\ncommunicate with her. We ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would run into each other at parties. She was at\nanother spend the night party when she was 15 and Andy Gaertner [sp] and I went\nthere and he rang the doorbell because we wanted to see if the girls want to go\nto the drugstore, if they could, because they would spend the night pouring\nback. Those days you don't just get the car and drive off. That don't work that\nway. She opened the door and when she said, \"Wait a minute,\" because she was\ngetting somebody else, I turned to Andy and I said, \"Who is that? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd like to go\nout with that.\" He started laughing. He said, \"That's Darcy Davis. That's the\ngirl that two years ago said you would never go out with.\" I kid and I tell my\nwife to her face, so I could say it on camera. I said there was an instance to\nme of an ugly duckling becoming a swan. It was like, whoa. We started dating\nwhen we were, I was 16, she was 15, and we dated until we got married. I was 21\nand she was 20.\n\nBERMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's a great story. Yeah.\n\nROSENBERG: We've been together a long time.\n\nBERMAN: That's wonderful. When you came back to Atlanta in 1985, you said, \"How\ncould it changed?\"\n\nROSENBERG: I remember now, because of my business I had come up here from time\nto time for trips, but the whole city had changed. The people had changed. Here\nwe still had the group, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but the people had totally changed. It became, it was a\nmore affluent city. There were a lot of people from other places other than\nAtlanta that had migrated here because a lot of big businesses had moved their\nsouthern offices here. Although I could find my way around a lot of the\nlandmarks that I had to remember, they were gone. There were interstates. I\nremember we used to always go to Aunt Fanny's Cabin, and I remember it took\nforever to get there. All of a sudden there's an ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interstate and a big road and\nyou're there in 2 minutes. I mean, it just had changed. Alvin was the rabbi at\nthe Temple. The Temple had changed dramatically.\n\nBERMAN: How so?\n\nROSENBERG: It had become, to say more Jewish is not fair. It had become more\ntraditional and more religious as the Reform movement had evolved and is still\nevolving. Alvin had come from a different class of the Hebrew University, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so\nthey had changed their mindsets a little. They are always evolving, obviously,\nbat and bar mitzvahs were okay, hoopers were okay, teaching Hebrew was\nabsolutely okay. We got to see it and we would like go and would go, wow, you\nknow, wow. Now we go double wow. Now with Peter Berg [sp] and another generation\nand our grandchildren all learning Hebrew and being bought in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bar mitzvah and\nunderstanding a lot more about the religion than we were taught. It's a positive\nchange. Positive, very positive. I know that when we were Reform Jews in Atlanta\nin the fifties and sixties and forties, there was probably a logical reason for\nwhy it was like it was. Then as things eased up and you could do things\ndifferently ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the South, Atlanta and the congregation evolved into a different\nmindset. You've got old timers like my mother, Eleanor and others, and certainly\nBill Short, the ambassador who just passed away, and Slick and Carolyn and Andy\nGartner's parents. I can go on and on. They shake their head today. This is not\nwhat they remember. They don't understand exactly how it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is evolved, but then\neverything changes, you know?\n\nBERMAN: Do you think it's for the better?\n\nROSENBERG: Yeah, I think it's for the better. I think it's a positive influence\non the grandchildren. Certainly, a lot of the children that it is what it is\ntoday. I think that as I look out, I see the Orthodox movement. I see the Reform\nmovement. I see the Conservative movement. I see the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Conservative movement\ncontracting as the Reform movement is evolving kind of in their territory, which\nin this only my point of view is probably, I think, good because, we're not a\nvery large group of people. The Jewish population is not gargantuan, and it\nneeds to support everything that it's involved with. therefore, how many large\ncongregations ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"can it really support? I don't know if that was the mindset of how\nit happened. I don't know how they decided to evolve. I understand less when I\ngo to the Temple to services than I did growing up because more was in English.\nI think it's a good mix still, and I think it's trying to maintain the\nrelationship with my generation and at the same time to communicate to the\nyounger generations who have evolved and been lucky enough to be ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more religious\nin Judaism than our generation was in Atlanta, Georgia, in the Temple in the\ntimeframe we grew up in. It's a long answer to a very difficult question.\n\nBERMAN: Right, it's . . . do you miss the old Atlanta?\n\nROSENBERG: Sometimes a lot. I think the pace of Atlanta is at ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3360.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a, it's . . . you\nknow you get in your starting block in the morning and it's on your mark, get\nset, go. There's so much that you can do and there's only so many hours in a\nday. There was a much tighter cohesion among our community then there is now.\nThe Jewish functions in the city ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"help to bring the people, the Jewish population\ntogether. You may say I've got some really good friends in the group, but\neverything is relative. Are they really good friends relative to what our\nparents would consider really good friends where they truly live and die\ntogether? I mean, everything is evolving around that, and you don't have cell\nphones and you don't have beepers and you don't have ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"these cameras and you don't\nhave computers. You had downtime where you truly could get away from all this\nother stuff. I can go into some of our smaller operations in smaller cities\ntoday and towns. And it's a lot. It's not to the metropolitan speed of Atlanta.\nIt's certainly faster than even Atlanta was back then in the forties and\nfifties. It's refreshing, I think is the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"word. Did I miss some of the things?\nYeah. Am I happy about some of the other things? Very certainly I am.\n\nBERMAN: What about community wise? What have you been involved with over the\nyears as far as organizational work?\n\nROSENBERG: If you can go, let's see, if you go back to my pretty much my . . . I\nwas in the Temple Youth Group. If we go all the way back to that and I played\nbasketball in the community center used to be ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right up the street from the\nTemple. Just as an aside when we . . . when I played basketball our nickname was\nthe Temple Bombers. Now, that's not funny, but it was funny at the time because\nwe had been bombed. I mean, really. You look back on it, and you think to\nyourself, you know what, that wasn't very cute. Why did we do that? I can't tell\nyou. I don't remember why. Anyway, so we did that. I was in the Jewish youth\ngroups here in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta. My wife dated a lot of the boys from Grady in between\nthe time that we decided we were to really get serious. We had a lot of\ninvolvement with the Grady Group and that was the Conservatives in the AA and\nthen some of the Orthodox groups. From that time, I went into college from\nthere, because then, remember, I went to a Catholic high school. I was very\ninvolved in the Catholic organizations involved ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the high school because I\nfelt like I almost had to, because you're either in or you're out, your part of\nit or you're not. It's a small, it had 700 students, there were sixty in our\nclass. You're either part of the group or you're not part of the group. I wound\nup being part of that group. When I went to college, I went to a Jewish\nfraternity, Phi Ep, which became ZBT. Then when I wound up through that and got\nmarried and then wound up in South Florida. I wound up very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"involved in the\nJewish Federation . . . on the board of the Jewish Federation. [I] wound up with\nmy older son going to the Alexander Munst [sp] High School in Israel for his\nsecond semester of his junior year. [He] loved every moment of it. Did it on his\nown. [He] came to me one day in [indistinct: 01:00:19] and said, \"That's what I\nwant to do.\" A lot of it had to do with peer, the peers. 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I've been involved in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3630.0,3660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Federation, but not on the board. I've been\ninvolved in one of the campaigns. I got forced into it by Linda Seeley [sp]. I\nthink I was a co-chair of the major gifts because you couldn't say no. Some\npeople you can't say no to. [I] wound up then evolving through to, there were\norganizations, and I can't really name all of them because they were the right\nthing to do. The things that we really cared a great deal about was obviously\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Davis Academy when that occurred, Amit Program, which we are very, very\ncommitted to and have been from the moment they came in and said to us, \"Here's\nwhat we would like to do. We'd like to have a program within the Jewish Day\nschools for children with special needs. What do you think?\" I'm out before I\ncould even open my mouth while my wife said, \"We're on board.\" We are there\nbecause my younger son, who's a twin, has dyslexia and has a learning disability\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and had had to go to a school once he got to Atlanta with special help called\nSkank. Then luckily, my wife had graduated. While I was going to Marist, she\nwent to St. Pius High School, and she had graduated from St. Pius. We look back\nand say, thank the Lord, we did, because had she not, we probably would have had\nto send my younger son Kenneth up to the Northeast to a school that could help\nhim in his learning difficulties. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As it turned out, the Catholic Church, who was\nalways ahead of the curve, already had this program, and it was at St. Pius.\nBecause of her relationship there as an alumni and having some of her close\nfriends, that younger daughters, our daughters, now we're part of the St. Pius\nenvironment in some manner, shape or form as students or something. She got it\nand my son got in there. He was able to stay in Atlanta with his twin sister and\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3750.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"graduate from a high school in Atlanta, albeit a couple of years later than his\ntwin sister. We wound up again very involved in the Catholic Church and in St.\nPius in particular, very involved in Skaggs School, which is a private school\nwith 290 students, I think. Obviously, Amit was a natural for us. It was like my\nwife said, \"Where were you when we were desperate for someone, for my child.\"\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3780.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm thinking to myself, you know what? Other children, parents shouldn't have\nthe same difficulty we had. If they want to go to a Jewish day school, they have\nsiblings and there at the school, a Jewish day school. What is wrong with the\nchild who has the difficulties possibly being able to get a similar education?\nTaught differently, but similar and understand the values of Judaism. Needless\nto say, from that very moment when they came in to talk to us, we've been very,\nvery involved, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"intimate and also has been very was very involved in the Jewish\nhome long before what happened to my mother happened. It's just like things that\ngo around, come around and things that happen in life always happen for a\nreason. I'm convinced of it because if someone were to write a story of a family\nand how things happen in life. Who would have ever thought that? That was one of\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3840.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things my wife really enjoyed. She really, really enjoyed the auxiliary of\nthe Jewish home. To have my mother wind up marrying the guy that it was named\nfor is not going to happen. It just isn't going to happen, but it did.\n\nBERMAN: I love that. Of course, you're on our board at the Breman.\n\nROSENBERG: Yeah, I didn't get to that.\n\nBERMAN: Do I need to ask how you came to be on our board? You have sort of a\nconnection ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to the Breman.\n\nROSENBERG: You think possibly it was similar when my father in law's had lunch\nwith me? Only I must tell you, my mother is much more persuasive than my\nfather-in-law was because it didn't even take me 2 seconds. I think my\nmother-in-law can vouch for this. My mother-in-law, excuse me my mother. 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I believe, certainly my, our, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3960.0,3990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my\nentire adult life. She's never steered me wrong, and she has given me advice.\nIt's not like she's never said, you need to do this, or you need to do that,\nwhich starts arguments. It's like she's accepted what I've done. She's been\nproud of the things that I've done in my life. She considers my wife her\ndaughter, because we didn't have a sister. She obviously was the first daughter\nin law. My wife, if you tell ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=3990.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"her that she's a daughter in law, she goes crazy\nbecause she's not the daughter in law. She's my mother's daughter. They talk\nevery single day. When something happens to my mother, she's the first one there\nbecause I'm usually at work or God forbid, I'm out of town and she's like,\nthere. When she asked me about the museum and I knew this was, this was an\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4020.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"important heartstring for her, you know, it's a phase of her life she never,\never expected to happen. It happened. She was smart enough and is a smart\nperson. Made them, has made the most of it. She does nothing halfway. I know\nyou're probably smiling because when I tell you, we've never had a crossword,\nwe've never had a disagreement. My mother speaks her mind, and when she thinks\nsomething, it comes right out. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4050.0,4080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She doesn't care who's standing around and takes\nthe shot. I think it's probably, it's something that is so important to her.\nIt's been at a phase in her life that not that, Dolce and I haven't been proud\nof her whole life, because we have because she has basically done the impossible\nthroughout her life. When you analyze out of high school and married and then\nchildren ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4080.0,4110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that's the end of the education and then going back and getting a\nprofession and then not just being good at it but being incredibly successful at\nit for a long period of time, thinking forever and then winding up with Bill\nBreman. At a stage in her life which, she was able then to do things that she\nhad only dreamed of. I think that's made me proud of her. 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That's really, kind of where I think we\nare as a family, certainly where I am and where my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4140.0,4170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mother is and where my wife\nis and hopefully where my children are, because we've tried hard to educate them\nand teach them. I've got to say that my brothers, my middle brother, is much\nmore religious. I think a lot has to do with, he married an Orthodox girl and\nhe's much more religious and much more tuned in to Judaism and what it's really\nall about and very, very intelligent, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4170.0,4200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"incredibly intelligent and a master at\nwhat he does in his career, in his work environment. My younger son, my younger\nbrother is a jewel. He's my mother's crown jewel. He's a child that, she'll kill\nme, was an accident, I'm sure, because there's ten years between me and him.\nHe's got a great family. He's got one incredible son, Jason, who just graduated\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4200.0,4230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"college. Needless to say, I think all three sons of the apple of my mother's\neyes and certainly my middle brother's two children, Rebecca and Michael, and my\nyounger brother John's son, Jason, and my three children and now great\ngrandchildren are the absolute jewels and the crowning glory of my mother. I\nlook back at our family, our side of the family, and I look before my mother and\nI see, Grandpa and Nana, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4230.0,4260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"her parents. I look at my father, Herby [sp], and look\nat his parents and I think that if they looked, were here and could communicate\nwith my mother, and hopefully with us that they would feel they did a good job.\nThat they really did a good job.\n\nBERMAN: You know how we feel about her. She's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4260.0,4290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"unbelievable. Just speaking about\nthe museum for us for a moment. What role do you think the museum has in our community?\n\nROSENBERG: I think what I've told Tom Asher and anyone else. I mean, I can't\nreally talk to my mother this way because she believes this. What I'm about to\nsay, truly, and Joyce Schlesinger [sp] and Spring Asher and all of the other\npeople that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4290.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were here before I ever really spent any time involved in the\nmuseum. These type environments for a community are the lifeblood of a community\nand the lifeline for the community and for the Jewish community. It takes on\nanother level of meaning to me that we need to do everything in our power ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4320.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to\ngrow this museum, make sure that it can financially prosper someday in life. I\nmay be gone, but somebody will send me a telegram, wind up in its own facility\nwhere it is a freestanding museum that's safe, can be a seven day, eight hour a\nday functioning environment that is not restricted by what is going on in the\nenvironment that they ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4350.0,4380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"cohabitate and get the message out to more and more\npeople, be they Jewish or non-Jewish, because this type of museum has so much\nsuch a story to tell and it's going to hold, hopefully the this kind of museum.\nThe archive will continue to hold the history of the Jewish people in this area,\nin this environment, in the South, certainly ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4380.0,4410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Atlanta, together for\ngenerations and generations to come. 30 or 40 years from now, someone else would\nbe sitting here and the museum will be here and have prospered. People, the\nchildren and the grandchild can go into the archives and go in and walk through\nand see the history lesson that this has for our people.\n\nBERMAN: I hope so, but I'm not done with you yet.\n\nROSENBERG: I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4410.0,4440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"figured you'd finish on a high note. That would be it.\n\nBERMAN: You just brought to mind a number of different questions. Just to go\nback a little bit when your parents decided to send you to Marist, did they\ndiscuss the situation with you, what was happening in the city, what was\nhappening with the schools? How did you feel about it?\n\nROSENBERG: At that time, my focus . . . I was in high school at the time. I\nthink I was in the ninth grade getting ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4440.0,4470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ready to go into the tenth because I\nbelieve I spent three years at Marist. I was focused on the endgame and the\nendgame at that moment in time was to be a doctor. The very thought that I could\nlose one to who knows years because I did understand enough to know what was\ngoing on and I think this has a lot to do with the Jewish community, certainly\nin Atlanta. I can't speak beyond ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4470.0,4500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta. I know Atlanta. They felt that\nsegregation was wrong. Now I'm not talking about my grandparents. I'm talking\nabout my parents, because my grandparents, it was part of their life. They never\ngave a second thought to having help that came in through the back door. They'd\nhad separate bathrooms. They couldn't, had to eat in the kitchen or some other\narea. They couldn't ride on the bus next to them. I mean, it was part of their\nlife, and I don't think they gave a lot of thought to it. I don't think, I think\nif you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4500.0,4530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sat them down and just said, tell me, is this right or wrong? I'm hoping\nthey would say it's wrong, but it is what it is, and we cannot change it,\nmeaning the Jewish people. We have our own acts to bear on our own problems. We\ncan't. I heard too much in my own home from my parents that it's wrong, it's\nwrong, it's wrong. They were a supportive, supportive of the Temple and of what\nRothschild was doing and his involvement with ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4530.0,4560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Martin Luther King and the whole\nmovement. When my parents came to me and said, \"Here's what we think may\nhappen.\", I could read, and I was able to read in the papers what was going on\nin Arkansas. They said, \"We need to see if we can get you in another school, a\nprivate school, because we don't know what's going to happen.\" Luckily, my\nfather had a friend who was also a friend of my father-in-law, believe this or\nnot, Al Davis, who ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4560.0,4590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"knew Father Brennan, who was the head of Marist at the time.\nThey got an appointment for us. It was Donald [indistinct: 01:16:42], and Al\nDavis got an appointment for me. They really didn't even know Donald knew me.\nDonald knew my father because my father had been a Phi Ep at Georgia. Donald had\nbeen a Phi Ep, different generation. I'm not talking about the younger Donald;\nI'm talking about the older Donald. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4590.0,4620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They said, \"Do you have an issue about going\nto a Catholic school?\" At that time, I was more focused on continuing my\neducation and they said, it's a very good school, you get a very good education,\nbut we don't know whether you can get, because everybody at that point was\ntrying to, parents were trying to get into a private environment and it was like\na mad race for parents to get them into an environment like that. Anyway, the\nrest is history. We met. Father ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4620.0,4650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Brennan liked my father. Father Brennan, the\nrectory down there for all the priests. They got their alcohol from my\nfather-in-law. I did not know what the connection was. I truly did not know why\nthis Jewish guy, Al Davis, was so friendly with Father Brennan. That was the\nconnection. Anyway, they tested me. I had to go through a battery of tests, it\nwasn't like yeah, ok a wink and a nod, I know this guy, so I'm going to get you\nin. It was not easy, but I got in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4650.0,4680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there. Was it what I was expecting? Absolutely\nnot. It was military. All male in the true sense of the word. Very religious.\nThey were willing, because of the disruption that the few non-Jews in this\nschool could cause when they went to religion. We went to psychology or\nsomething else. [indistinct: 01:18:25] upset with me if I said that.\n\nBERMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4680.0,4710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have really just one more question. You spoke so much about your\nfamily and the children and also your involvement with community. What do you\nthink about how do you feel about the next generation? Do you feel like there as\ncommitted to community as your generation was? Should we worry that there's not\nthat cohesive Jewish community here like there ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4710.0,4740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was when you were growing up?\n\nROSENBERG: Oh, I think we're absolutely sure. I think that's unfortunately for\nme, it's a no brainer. You're going to have your core because you always have a\ncore, and they are finding the time within their lives . . . I remember the\npoint I was making about computers and cell phones and everything else that's in\nthe environment and the speed that everybody's moving. You'll have your group.\nYou have an awful lot of children, I believe, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4740.0,4770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of parents who are very involved\nin some phase of this Jewish community somewhere. My biggest concern is more\ngoing through the motions out of respect for their parents and that when their\nparents are no longer in the environment, they may not be as committed. We've\nhad conversations because our generation's changed so rapidly. I'm looking at my\ngrandchildren relative to my own children, and its light ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4770.0,4800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years different in\nthem. Where their focus is, are so different. I can honestly say that's one of\nthe things that makes me feel good about a school like Davis Academy, because I\nthink that's giving children the feeling of community, Jewish community and\ninvolvement in Judaism and Sudhakar and all the things that . . . it's the only\nthing that's going to keep this thing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4800.0,4830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going. I would say overall, the fear\nshould be great. I don't think I've been to a meeting anywhere in the country of\nany Jewish organization. That is one of the number one or number two topics to\ndiscuss is the maintenance of the philanthropic and the involved level of the\nJewish people. We know what we're going to do and what we're trying to teach.,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4830.0,4860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but we don't know what happens. They'll have their own things. I'm not saying\nthey won't be involved. The concern that I would have, and I think it's what\nyou're asking me, are they going to be involved in the exact same things their\nparents have been involved in? I think the answer is some will somewhat. It's a\nconcern. That's why the more organizations like Breman, the more they can do for\ntheir endowment, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4860.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the better chance they have long term. That's an issue for the,\nwhat I consider the children of the community, and certainly in lifespan Breman\nis one of the children of the community because of its time frame that it's\nexisted. Of course, the last two years plus what the economy has caused to\nhappen to just philanthropic giving in general. It's done now at this point.\nDoesn't matter whether you're Jewish or not, Jewish, Catholic or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4890.0,4920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Presbyterian or\nwhatever, they're all having this issue. Some it's bigger than others. Those\npieces of that community, whatever it is that are the children, are the ones\nthat are having the most difficult time. If you are having a problem raising\nmoney at the top end, your problem is manifold hundred times the further down\nthe ladder you get. 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They need to understand the need for\nthe Bremen ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4950.0,4980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Museum in the Jewish community of Atlanta. They need to understand\nthe need to protect their synagogue and why it's important, even if I think\nthere may be too many of them today. I mean, I just went to the moving up\nceremonies for the Davis Academy for the fifth grade, going into middle school.\nThey must have had ten Reform rabbis from different congregations get up there\nto give the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=4980.0,5010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"book to the children that were coming from their congregation that\nwent to Davis. It blew me away. My point being, that's what's it's taking $1 and\ntrying to spread it way, way too far. I can only say we're trying to do our part\nwith our family to educate them. Certainly, you don't, I don't need to tell you,\nmy mother has certainly done her part for this museum as ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5010.0,5040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"far as trying to make .\n. . I think she got it. I finally got it. Took me a while. I got it. The\nimportance of this. Forget the name. Get past the Breman name. What it stands\nfor in the community. This. Thing you guys work so hard for. It's not because\nyou're getting overpaid. It's because there is a love affair that goes into this\ntype of environment. More importantly, y'all understand the need for it. 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I'm talking at Jewish who don't\nbelieve it, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5070.0,5100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"even when they're taught it, see it, they can't understand it. If\nyou can't understand it, you can't touch it and feel it. It's gone. Keep doing\nwhat you're doing. It's all I can tell you.\n\nBERMAN: Thank you for doing this interview. I've really enjoyed it. I have a\ncouple; I just have one more question. This goes back to sort of your youth and\nbeing a part of the community. What was the Standard Club like ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5100.0,5130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back then? What\nwas it like to just spend a day out there?\n\nROSENBERG: Which is great. It was. The Jews were not ostracized. I mean, they\nwere not able to get into other organizations. In a club environment like that,\nwhere you could play tennis, go swimming, play golf. Saturday nights were huge\nout there. I mean, it was a social event every Saturday night. The parent, my\nparents, I remember they all dressed ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5130.0,5160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to the nines to go out there. It was the\nconnection. It was how we connected. I remember. I assume, there was the\nProgressive Club, there was the Mayfair Club, and there was the Standard Club.\nMost, if not all of the Reform group belong to the Standard Club. That's not to\nsay that some of them didn't belong to the Mayfair and the Progressive Club, but\nthat was kind of their place. That is like where my father-in-law and\nmother-in-law would go on a Saturday night, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5160.0,5190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not every Saturday, but many\nSaturdays' night out there because they're friends. That's where their friends\nwere. That's what they felt. Good and comfortable.\n\nBERMAN: Did they go to have dinner or were there parties?\n\nROSENBERG: Both. I mean, it was an event bar. They all knew the bartender. They\nhad bands. They even had big name bands. It was hard to stay on the weekends if\nyou didn't go away to a camp in the summer. You went to that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5190.0,5220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pool. When I played\ntennis, most of the time I played there. You played golf? Most of the time you\nplayed there. I mean, it was just, it's what was the glue that kept us all\ntogether because we enjoyed it so much. I mean, it was fun. I mean, it was a\ncountry club in the old time what a country club was. It just happened to be a\nJewish country club.\n\nBERMAN: Do you think they made a big mistake moving out to Alpharetta?\n\nROSENBERG: How about a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5220.0,5250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"catastrophic mistake? They had the opportunity to have an\nin-town club. I call out for about an hour to out of town, an out-of-town golf\nclub. At the time, they didn't financially think that was, that made the sense.\nHad they kept the in-town club where they would have been able lunches, you'd\nhave lunch, the businesspeople would have been together. They actually could\nhave had their social events because it was going to have been one of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5250.0,5280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"other\nclubs that was going to have to shut down, because this community really\ncouldn't support three Jewish country clubs in that way, particularly as people\nwere able to start assimilating. Then they were members of other clubs. What\nthey did, they presumed because the Brookhaven Club worked when they were down\non Ponce de Leon in the old club, and they moved to Brookhaven. The old timers\nremembered the rage ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5280.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the consternation and the wringing of the hands that the\nolder group felt because it was moving to the country. At the time, Brookhaven\nwas a country, was the country, and they said it worked, so this is going to\nwork. Different time, different world, and it's a lot. It's not so bad. There's\na long way out there. Having a social event out there, if you don't have busses\nto take people back, you cannot go out there, have a good time, drink, get in\nyour car and then ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5310.0,5340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"drive back. You can't. I'm in the business and I also want\n[indistinct: 01:29:04]. I think we saw it more than anybody else. I think my\nfather was one of those guys in that group that said, are y'all crazy? I mean,\nfinancially, it was a great deal. It was a no brainer from a financial\nperspective for a club that was deeply in debt to pay off all debt, build a\nbrand-new club free and clear and put a lot of money in the bank account. It was\na no brainer, but it's struggling. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If it wasn't for golf, it would no longer be\nout there. They'd be going back. I hope years in the future, when somebody might\nlook at this thing, they don't say, \"Well, you were right. You're right.\" It's\ngone. What was it like? What was it? It was the institution for the Jewish.\nCertainly, the Jewish Reform movement in Atlanta, Georgia.\n\nBERMAN: I hope you're wrong.\n\nROSENBERG: I do, too. I do, too. I mean, there's a lot of young members out\nthere, don't get me wrong. If you think about it, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5370.0,5400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/transcript/40685/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people either have pools, they\nlive in subdivisions with, that have a club with a pool. If they're young,\nmarried, they have involvement in that community. A lot of them have involvement\nin that community. Forget about it being Jewish or not. What do they need? The\nStandard Club to go to the pool now? Tennis, in these clubs, they are in a lot\nof these communities, these developments, they have tennis courts. My point is\nthe world has evolved. 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I don't even know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=5430.0,5460.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Rosenberg, Jerry [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eEmory University Hospital Midtown is a hospital located in Atlanta, Georgia, founded in 1908. \u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eGarden Hills Elementary School is a public school located in Atlanta, Georgia, founded in 1938.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eE. 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The school is one of Atlanta’s oldest schools.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eMorris Brandon Elementary School is a public school located in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eNorthside High School was an Atlanta public school from 1971 to 1983.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Temple, or “Hebrew Benevolent Congregation,” is Atlanta’s oldest Jewish congregation. The cornerstone was laid on the Temple on Garnett Street in 1875. The dedication was held in 1877 and the Temple was located there until 1902. The Temple’s next location on Pryor Street was dedicated in 1902. The Temple’s current location in Midtown on Peachtree Street was dedicated in 1931. The main sanctuary is on the National Register of Historic Places. The Reform congregation now totals approximately 1500 families. As of 2022, its Senior Rabbi is Peter S. Berg.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRabbi Jacob Mortimer \"Jack\" Rothschild (1911-1973) served as rabbi of Atlanta’s oldest Reform congregation, the Temple, from 1946 until his death in 1973 from a heart attack. A native of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, he forged close relationships with the city’s Christian clergy and distinguished himself as a charismatic spokesperson for civil rights.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRabbi Dr. David Marx (1872-1962) was a long-time rabbi at the Temple in Atlanta, Georgia. A native of New Orleans, he led the congregation’s move toward the practices of Reform Judaism. He served as rabbi from 1895 to 1946. When he retired, Rabbi Jacob Rothschild took the pulpit that Rabbi Marx had held for more than half a century.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eClassical Reform Judaism was the type of Judaism that developed in the late 19th century United States. American Jews, most of whom were of central European background, saw the tremendous influence that liberal religion had on their Protestant neighbors and wanted to develop a form of Judaism equivalent to Episcopalianism, Presbyterianism, and especially Unitarianism. As presented in the 1885 Declaration of Principles, known as the \"Pittsburgh Platform,\" Classical Reform Judaism minimized Judaic ritual and emphasized ethics in a universalist context, stressing universalism while reaffirming the Reform movement's commitment to Jewish particularism through the expression of the religious idea of the mission of Israel. The document defined Reform Judaism as a rational and modern form of religion in contrast with traditional Judaism on one hand and universalist ethics on the other. Much of Reform Judaism has moved away from Classical Reform and toward a more traditional style of worship since World War II and the Holocaust, and only a handful of congregations follow the Classical Reform any longer. The most vocal advocates of the return to Classical Reform Judaism are members of the group known as \"Roots of Reform Judaism,\" (formerly the Society for Classical Reform Judaism), founded in 2008.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eA bar mitzvah [Hebrew: son of commandments; plural: b’nai mitzvah] is a rite of passage for Jewish boys aged 13 years and one day. At that time, a Jewish boy is considered a responsible adult for most religious purposes. He is now duty-bound to keep the commandments, he puts on tefillin, and may be counted to the minyan quorum for public worship. He celebrates the bar mitzvah by being called up to the reading of the Torah in the synagogue, usually on the next available Sabbath after his Hebrew birthday.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Alfred and Adele Davis Academy is a private Reform Jewish day school in Sandy Springs, Georgia for students from pre-kindergarten through eighth grade.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eHebrew for “daughter of commandments.” A rite of passage for Jewish girls aged 12 years and one day according to her Hebrew birthday. Many girls have their bat mitzvah around age 13, the same as boys who have their bar mitzvah at that age. The bat mitzvah girl is now duty bound to keep the commandments. Synagogue ceremonies are held for bat mitzvah girls in Reform and Conservative communities, but it has not won the approval of Orthodox rabbis.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Temple on Peachtree Street in Atlanta, Georgia was bombed in the early morning hours of October 12, 1958. About 50 sticks of dynamite were planted near the building and tore a huge hole in the wall. No one was injured in the bombing as it was during the night. Rabbi Jacob Rothschild was an outspoken advocate of civil rights and integration and friend of Martin Luther King Jr. Five men associated with the National States’ Rights Party, a white separatist group, were tried and acquitted in the bombing.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/82325/file/170549/annotation_set/924/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eMartin Luther King, Jr. (1929-1968) is best known for his role as a leader in the Civil Rights Movement and the advancement of civil rights using nonviolent civil disobedience based on his Christian beliefs. A Baptist minister, King became a civil rights activist early in his career. He led the 1955 Montgomery Bus Boycott and helped found the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) in 1957, serving as its first president. With the SCLC, King led an unsuccessful struggle against segregation in Albany, Georgia, in 1962, and organized nonviolent protests in Birmingham, Alabama, that attracted national attention following television news coverage of the brutal police response. King also helped to organize the 1963 March on Washington, where he delivered his famous \"I Have a Dream\" speech. On October 14, 1964, King received the Nobel Peace Prize for combating racial inequality through nonviolence. In 1965, he and the SCLC helped to organize the Selma to Montgomery marches and the following year, he took the movement north to Chicago to work on segregated housing. King was assassinated on April 4, 1968 in Memphis, Tennessee. His death was followed by riots in many United States’ cities. 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