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He also has a brother named Thomas Asher. Norman and his family were members of The Temple, a Reform congregation. Growing up, Norman attended Marist College and The Asheville School and worked at Rich's Incorporated. He was a part of different organizations like Boy Scouts and the Standard Club, and was involved in activities like tennis and swimming. After The Asheville School, Norman studied government at Cornell University and was also a part of the Tau Delta Phi fraternity. Once Norman graduated, he entered the army and went into retail afterward as an associate buyer at Bloomingdale's in New York City. Norman moved back to Atlanta after meeting his late wife Barbara Miller and marrying her in 1963. Norman and Barbara had two children, Helen and Lee, and were married for thirty-three years before her death. Norman later remarried Millie in 1997. Although Norman is retired from Rich's Incorporated, he is currently involved with the Historic Oakland Foundation. \u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eNorman Asher discusses where his family came from and how they got to the Atlanta area. He discusses how his great grandfather started the Fulton Bag and Cotton Mills business and how he was one of the founders of the Georgia Institute of Technology, Grady Hospital, and The Temple. Norman talks about how his parents met and how his family were members of The Temple and the Standard Club. Norman reflects on his social life with those who were and were not Jewish before he touches upon segregation. Norman briefly reflects on the Leo Frank case before shifting his focus on the various activities he belonged to while growing up. Norman further discusses his upbringing in relation to his time at Marist School and The Asheville School before heading to college at Cornell University. Norman talks about serving in the military after university and his time at Bloomingdale's, where he met his wife, Barbara Miller. He discusses how he moved back to Atlanta with Helen and how things in the area had changed. He reflects on his time raising his kids in the Atlanta area as well as his wife's death. Norman goes into how he met his second wife Millie and their time together in terms of his career, their family, social involvements, and his transition to being closely involved with his Jewish faith.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28884"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may bereproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic ormechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system,without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Fulton Bag and Cotton Mill (corporate name)","Rich's Department Store (corporate name)","Atlanta, Georgia (geographic)","Asher, Norman (personal name)","Jewish Social Life (topical term)","Jewish Customs (topical term)","The Standard Club (corporate name)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eNorman Asher interviewed by Ann Ray Kremer on August 25, 2006 in Atlanta, Georgia.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eNorman Asher was born in Atlanta, Georgia, to Joseph Asher and Helen Elsas Asher. He also has a brother named Thomas Asher. Norman and his family were members of The Temple, a Reform congregation. Growing up, Norman attended Marist College and The Asheville School and worked at Rich's Incorporated. He was a part of different organizations like Boy Scouts and the Standard Club, and was involved in activities like tennis and swimming. After The Asheville School, Norman studied government at Cornell University and was also a part of the Tau Delta Phi fraternity. Once Norman graduated, he entered the army and went into retail afterward as an associate buyer at Bloomingdale's in New York City. Norman moved back to Atlanta after meeting his late wife Barbara Miller and marrying her in 1963. Norman and Barbara had two children, Helen and Lee, and were married for thirty-three years before her death. Norman later remarried Millie in 1997. Although Norman is retired from Rich's Incorporated, he is currently involved with the Historic Oakland Foundation.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eNorman Asher discusses where his family came from and how they got to the Atlanta area. He discusses how his great grandfather started the Fulton Bag and Cotton Mills business and how he was one of the founders of the Georgia Institute of Technology, Grady Hospital, and The Temple. Norman talks about how his parents met and how his family were members of The Temple and the Standard Club. Norman reflects on his social life with those who were and were not Jewish before he touches upon segregation. Norman briefly reflects on the Leo Frank case before shifting his focus on the various activities he belonged to while growing up. Norman further discusses his upbringing in relation to his time at Marist School and The Asheville School before heading to college at Cornell University. Norman talks about serving in the military after university and his time at Bloomingdale's, where he met his wife, Barbara Miller. He discusses how he moved back to Atlanta with Helen and how things in the area had changed. He reflects on his time raising his kids in the Atlanta area as well as his wife's death. Norman goes into how he met his second wife Millie and their time together in terms of his career, their family, social involvements, and his transition to being closely involved with his Jewish faith.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may bereproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic ormechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system,without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Asher_Norman.mp3"]},"duration":8469.42041,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-thebreman.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/162/086/original/Asher_Norman.mp3?1657388878","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mp3","duration":8469.42041,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Norman Asher [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KREMER: This is Ray Ann Kremer interviewing Norman Asher on August 25, 2006\nfor the Oral History Project of Atlantic, co-sponsored by the American Jewish\nCommittee, the Jewish Federation of Greater Atlanta and the National Council of\nJewish Women. Norman, I always begin my interviews by asking how far back you\ncan remember your family. How far back can you go and where did they come from\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before they came here?\n\nASHER: It just so happens that I'm interested in history and I'm actually doing\nsome work with the historical cemetery right now. I've been looking into our\nfamily history. I've put together a family tree maker program, and it goes back\nabout on one side of my family, on my mother's side, we can go back 11\ngenerations. That goes ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back to actually, well, it all goes back to Germany, but\nthis one [Mother's side] goes back all the way to a rabbi who was there in the\nlate 1700's. Then his descendants . . .\n\nKREMER: Where in Germany?\n\nASHER: They were all from around the town of Ludwigsburg, which is not far from\nthe Stuttgart area, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think, and the river Nectar, I believe. I may have\nmispronounced it but . . .\n\nKREMER: Would you spell these words if you can?\n\nASHER: Well, Ludwigsburg is L-U-D-W-I-G-S-B-U-R-G. It was the . . . where he, I\ndon't know if it was the King of France or whatever, but they lived in this big\ncastle. The river ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nectar, I think is N-E-C-T-A-R; it runs through that area. . .\n. As far back as I could go that I know what they were doing was they were in\nthe textile business in Germany. That goes back to a company that they had from\n1848 that I'm aware of, but we can trace some back even further than that on my\nmother's side. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The. . .\n\nKREMER: Your mother's name was. . . ?\n\nASHER: Elsas. Her last name was Elsas.\n\nKREMER: Okay, E-L-S-A-S?\n\nASHER: That name actually does go back a long way--not as far as 11\ngenerations--but it goes back in Germany and that particular area of Germany, at\nleast I think about six generations back. On my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mother's side, we can trace our\nfamily back to my great grandparents and we know that they're from Germany. I'm\nnot sure exactly where they're from. They settled in Boston [Massachusetts]\nafter they came over here. Their name was Ehrlich, E-H-R-L-I-C-H. There are\nstill descendants and relatives from that particular part of my family ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"living in\nthe Boston and Washington areas. Then on my father's side, we can trace back the\nAsher side to Germany. I think an area called S-C-H-L-O-P-P-E, and I don't know\nwhere it is. I think it's Bavaria and that, the furthest back I traced is to my\ngreat grandparents on the Asher side. On my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"father's mother's side, their name\nwas Davis. I'm not sure how far back, but I think I brought something with me\nthat may say and since you asked the question, I didn't know . . .\n\nKREMER: Oh good. Can I have a copy of that for the records?\n\nASHER: Yes. It's not very easy to read the way I wrote it, but . . .\n\nKREMER: It's not easy to read because it's small. This is a printout of the\nfamily ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tree that Norman is working on and it's wonderful. I will have a copy of\nthis with all the records.\n\nASHER: This is my grandfather, my great grandfather, Michael Asher, married to\nJeanette Moses. I know that they lived in Georgia. They lived in South Georgia,\nin Midville and Augusta area. And my . . .\n\nKREMER: You know what brought them here?\n\nASHER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I don't.\n\nKREMER: About when they came?\n\nASHER: No, I'm guessing that it looks like from the records that many of them\ncame in the 1840's at the time that Germany was no longer as lenient toward\nJewish families as they were immediately after Napoleon the Third. I believe\nthere was a period of time there of revolution in Germany, and they left.\n\nKREMER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Many German Jews came during that period.\n\nASHER: Right . . . and at any rate, that's about the history, I mean, as far\nback as I could go. We've got a lot of connections in Atlanta [Georgia]. I don't\nknow if you knew that.\n\nKREMER: Well, I'd like to know how you how your family got to Atlanta. Who came\nhere first?\n\nASHER: Well, on my father's side, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his parent . . . let's see now, his mother's\nside of the family . . ., or because grandparents on his mother's side were here\nbefore the Civil War. Then when the war was coming toward Atlanta and Sherman\nwas coming toward Atlanta, they packed up and went South. They actually\nliterally moved the entire family to a small town in Southeast Georgia,\nMidville. 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I'm not quite sure what they did with it after that, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but it was\nevidently a pretty large business back then. I'm not saying that our family had\nmade a lot of money from it, but I think they were able to support their own\nchildren and then their grandchildren. I believe that they lived in Midville for\nat least three generations, and then my father's generation are the ones that\ncame back to Atlanta. Some of them did. He was one of eight children and several\nof ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them didn't come back and live in Atlanta. Others just spread around Georgia,\ndifferent areas.\n\nKREMER: Do you know how that generation celebrated their Judaism in a little\ntown like Midville?\n\nASHER: The only thing I know from my father is that they attended the Methodist\nChurch and, as children they were not members, but he always said he went to\nSunday school at the local Methodist ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"church. I think they had a Methodist Church\nand a Baptist Church in town. If they wanted to do anything that was Jewishly\nrelated, they would have to go to Augusta where there was an established Jewish\ncommunity and there were synagogues, but I don't recall any stories specifically\nconcerning their Jewish life really.\n\nKREMER: Well, it's kind of unusual though, going to a church or training ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so\nobviously he remained Jewish and identified with being Jewish. So, it didn't you\nknow . . .\n\nASHER: He did, he did.\n\nKREMER: . . . it didn't mess him up.\n\nASHER: No, he remained Jewish, as did all of his siblings and to my knowledge,\nthey all remained Jewish. Maybe they did celebrate or observe different\nholidays. There is a family bible from his side of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"family, which I happen to\nown that is definitely the Holy Scriptures. It's a very large Bible with it in\nthe back of it, it has the dates and names of various members of the family,\nbirths and deaths and marriages. I get the impression that they all remained\nJewish throughout this period of time, which would be from the eighteen, well,\nthe Bible indicates from roughly ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the 1880's through the 1920's, that period.\n\nKREMER: Oh, so they went through the Leo Frank thing. I mean, they were . . .\n\nASHER: No, not too much, my mother's side of the family did not because they\nwere here in Atlanta. My mother and father, of course, met in the thirties. They\nwere, that was after Leo Frank. I don't think my father's family was really ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in\nthe Atlanta area, but my mother's family definitely was.\n\nKREMER: What brought your father here first and then we'll get your. . .\n\nASHER: Well, I think he had to make a living. I think he finished high school at\nfifteen years old and I think at that time there wasn't much in Midville, and he\ncame to Atlanta and he just to really to work. He found a job at Rich's and\nworked in the men's sock department at Rich's. 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He really, and he also came\nhere, and he met my mother here in Atlanta because she was born and raised here\nin Atlanta.\n\nKREMER: Alright and tell me how her family got here.\n\nASHER: They came, my great grandfather, Jacob Ellis, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"came to Atlanta right after Sherman. He literally happened to be following that particular line of foreign\ntroops that came through Georgia and not deliberately, to my knowledge. He was\nreally from Cincinnati [Ohio] where he had gone as a child. His mother set him\nover as a child to live with his uncle in Cincinnati in the 1850's. Then I think\nafter that, he struck ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out on his own.\n\nKREMER: Now, did his parents come after him?\n\nASHER: No, no, no, they stayed. They never came to this country, but he and his\nbrother Isaac both came to this country, and he came from Cincinnati down\nthrough ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"North Georgia. He stopped in Cartersville, Georgia, and established the\nfirst brick store in Cartersville. It was a dry goods store in Cartersville and\nthen after that, he saw that there would be more opportunity in Atlanta. I think\nSherman had already come through and Atlanta was pretty much, you know, gone at\nthat point. 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Today it's called the Fulton Lofts or\nthe Stacks.\n\nKREMER: Does your family still own the land?\n\nASHER: No, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=780.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the family owns nothing. In 1950, this business that he started,\nFulton Bag and Cotton Mills he started it in 1867, but he started building the\nmills in 1881, and it became a national business all over. He had mills all over\nthe United States, from Atlanta to New Orleans [Louisiana] to Kansas City\n[Kansas]. I think Denver [Colorado] had something and Los Angeles [California]\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and Milwaukee [Wisconsin] and Brooklyn [New York] and others. I'm not sure about\nall the places, but it was a very large business around the turn of the century.\nWhat was your question again? I forgot my train of thought.\n\nKREMER: I asked originally if your family owned any of the . . .\n\nASHER: Oh, that's right. Well, the business prospered until 1956. 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When plastics were invented, I don't think that they had the foresight\nto know at least that there would be a major shift away from natural fiber into\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"plastics. The plastics pretty much took the place of the cotton in the areas\nthat they were they were experts in, so business did not survive after 1956.\n\nKREMER: Where you family probably got out at the right time.\n\nASHER: They got out, right. So that was his history. Jacob Barrett, Clara Stahl,\nS-T-A-H-L, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know a whole lot about her, but they had eight children and\none of their children is my grandfather, Oscar Alsace. He was the oldest of the\neight children. Jacob employed Oscar, as well as the other five brothers and the\nhusbands of the two girls of eight [children]. 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He also was a close friend of Henry\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Grady, the editor of the newspapers here, and an orator and writer. He and Henry\nGrady and a number of other men in Atlanta put up major funding. They donated a\nlot of money to establish Grady Hospital in its infancy. They knew that latter\nneeded a public hospital. They were two of the many people who were the initial\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"lenders to bypass the automakers to their donors. Let's see . . . anyway, his\n[Oscar] son ran the Fulton Bag and Cotton Mills.\n\nKREMER: Oscar's son?\n\nASHER: Oscar's son after Oscar, yes.\n\nKREMER: And he was. . . ?\n\nASHER: It was my uncle, Norman Bell, since he ran the mill. Not immediately\nafter Oscar [though]. Oscar died rather prematurely when he was taking my mother\nto college at Wellesley [University] in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Boston [Massachusetts]. He died actually\non the trip, taking her as a freshman. He is buried in Boston.\n\nKREMER: What happened?\n\nASHER: I don't know. I suspect it was a heart attack, but I don't know. Then the\nmill was taken over by one of his brothers, Ben Elsas, who, after his death was\nsucceeded by his, Ben's son, Billy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elsas, who died rather young and was\nsucceeded by my uncle Norman Elsas. Then after Norman, Norman was president for\na long time and Ben was succeeded after the mill was purchased by Clarence\nElsas. The new owners maintained some of the family who were very active in the\nbusiness. Norman retired and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clarence, headed the mill for a while. And he died.\nI think none of the family really stayed at the mill after that. At any rate,\nthey had a long history in Atlanta with the rest of the textile business. Then .\n. .\n\nKREMER: We're going to go now on to how your parents met [and] where they went\nto school ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"here. Your dad did go to school here, but . . .\n\nASHER: My mother and dad, how they met, I'm not really quite sure. I think they\nwere introduced to each other by a mutual acquaintance, Oscar Alexis, who had\nbeen excuse me, Oscar Strouse, who was the father of Margaret Wyler. He became\none of their closest friends throughout their adult life. They were married in\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1933 at the Biltmore [the Biltmore Ballrooms] here in Atlanta. I was born in\n1935 and my brother Tom was born in 1936. We grew up here in Atlanta. If you'd\nlike to know about our childhood . . .\n\nKREMER: Yes, we're going to get to that.\n\nASHER: . . . or more about my parents? My parents . . .\n\nKREMER: No, we're going to get to you, all of you, it's . . .\n\nASHER: My parents meeting, well . . .\n\nKREMER: Did they ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"belong to the country club?\n\nASHER: Well, yes.\n\nKREMER: Were they involved in Temple?\n\nASHER: They definitely belonged to The Temple. My mother's father and\ngrandfather, Oscar Elsas, her father and their grandfather, Jacob Elsas were\ndefinitely very active at The Temple. I think that Jacob Elsas was one of the\nfounders or founding members of The Temple in 1867, and they were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"also members\nof the Standard Club. My mother's father, Oscar, was the president of the\nStandard Club around 1902. Their social life, from what I can gather, revolved\naround the Standard Club, which . . . I don't know where it was located when\nthey were young. I can just remember where it was when I was young. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was\nclose to where I am, and I know that their social life revolved around the club\nat that time and all of their friends belonged to that particular club.\n\nKREMER: All their friends were basically former German Jews.\n\nASHER: I would say all of them, yes. As you probably ell know, in that era that\nwas there were very distinct separations between the Atlanta ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"German Jewish\nfamilies and Jewish families from Eastern European countries. Socially, anyway,\nnot business wise, but socially.\n\nKREMER: Business wise, there was interaction?\n\nASHER: I think that there was, but definitely not socially, not as much socially then.\n\nASHER: But didn't the kids go to the same schools, you know . . .?\n\nASHER: Well, [the school] my brother and I went to, we probably did. 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Was there dating between the two\nJewish groups?\n\nASHER: Dating each at our, in my group when we became dating age, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they there was\ndefinitely a mixture between the two groups. I grew up with a number of kids\nhere in Atlanta, but we had a large group. We had a large group, and we did date\na lot of girls who were not from the same German background. We felt nothing,\nyou know, there was no reason not to. That kind of stigma, I think, had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"started\nto go away with our generation Then with our children's generation I think it's\npretty much has been eliminated, as far as I can tell. In those days when we\nwere growing up, there were a number of restrictions in Atlanta. Jews of all\nkinds couldn't belong to any kind of a Christian club: The Piedmont Driving\nClub, The Capital City Club, which were the primary Christian clubs in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta.\n[They] did not take Jews, even though they may have been actually founded by\nJews or they may have been some founding Jewish members.\n\nKREMER: They were founding Jewish members in those clubs?\n\nASHER: There were at both clubs in the 1880's, but they didn't stay.\n\nKREMER: Any of your family?\n\nASHER: . . . no, no, nothing I've ever heard anyway. Anyway . . . but there have\nbeen there have been Jewish members, but they didn't stay in the club or else\nthey did not ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"profess to be Jewish. . . . I don't want to name names because I\nmay be mistaken as to who I'd name, but these are stories mostly that I've heard\nover the years and . . .\n\nKREMER: What about in school? Did you have friends who weren't Jewish?\n\nASHER: Yes, definitely. We had friends who were Jewish and that was not a\nproblem. We were never really as close with our non [Jewish friends]. I was\nnever as close with my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"non-Jewish friends as I would be with the acquaintances\nwho were Jewish and in the neighborhood where I grew up, which is Druid Hills.\nWe lived on Springdale Road, and I played with the kids who lived on Springdale,\nOakdale, Low Water, Clifton. And Ponce de Leon and Fairview [Streets in\nAtlanta], which are pretty much all within walking distance. We had sidewalks,\nwe had public parks where we would go to play, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and we'd get together all the\ntime as kids.\n\nASHER: So, it didn't matter that you couldn't go to their club?\n\nKREMER: No, no, it didn't matter.\n\nASHER: Because they probably couldn't go to your club either.\n\nASHER: Well, that's true. That's right, that's true. Well, you know, in those\ndays of mine, they had three different Jewish clubs, as you know, the Standard\nClub, The Mayfair Club and the Progressive Club, but . . .\n\nASHER: Was there interaction between the kids in those three clubs?\n\nASHER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not a lot. I'm sure there was some, but I didn't experience a whole lot\nof interaction as a young kid. After we were, you know, diving age and older,\nall of that changed. While we were under the supervision of our parents it was\nalways pretty much, you know, sticking to one group.\n\nKREMER: Now I'd like to touch on segregation. How aware ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of it were you growing up?\n\nASHER: I would say totally unaware. The segregation to us, we don't think about\nsegregation as kids. You talk about how well, as young kids . . .\n\nKREMER: Well, right.\n\nASHER: . . . We were really young.\n\nKREMER: . . . I mean, you probably don't know what your parents did or thought.\n\nASHER: No, we just knew that we had black men and women working in our house,\nand they would arrive in the morning, and they'd go home in the evening. They'd\ntake ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the streetcar to work and then they would take the streetcar home. They\nwere in all the families we had that we grew up with. We had black cooks and\nblack laundresses and chauffeurs and yardmen and butlers. One unusual thing is\nthat nurses, which most all of us had in our crowd [the Jewish community], ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were\nwhite. There were black nurses, but most all of them were white. I think that it\nhad to do with the fact that they could live in the house, they could stay\novernight in the house. The black servants really came and went on a daily basis.\n\nKREMER: Were these nurses from this country or were they . . .\n\nASHER: Yes.\n\nKREMER: . . . immigrants?\n\nASHER: The ones . . . well, it was a combination, but most of them were from\nthis country that I knew.\n\nKREMER: Do you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remember hearing your family talk anything about the Frank case?\n\nASHER: Only when I was much order and old enough to talk to them about it as\nwell. When I did, they did not want to discuss it. They felt, I believe, that it\nwas something that should be swept under the rug, that they were, they lived\nthrough it. My mother did anyway [live through it]. She was actually living ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in\nthe Ponce de Leon apartments on the corner of Peachtree and Ponce de Leon when\nLeo Frank was dragged through the city and actually along that area, in that\narea. She was a young, very young girl. I think she was only maybe eight or nine\nyears old.\n\nKREMER: Does she remember the Ku Klux Klan marching and stuff like that that was\ngoing on then?\n\nASHER: She probably does. She didn't . . . she never said much about the Klan.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We knew about the Klan through the cross burnings on Stone Mountain and anything\nelse in the paper. Not a whole lot in the Atlanta area other than that, some\ngatherings occasionally. Leo Frank Case made a major impression on my parents\nand their contemporaries. I don't know of any of them that probably that would\nwant to ever discuss it, so we didn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"learn about it until we until Alfred made\nus much more aware, Alfred Uhry.\n\nKREMER: You know, it's so interesting because I've interviewed a lot of people\nabout this, and I get the same story and they . . .\n\nASHER: Did you?\n\nKREMER: . . . didn't want to talk about it. They were so horrified and so\nafraid. Many People left town and never came back.\n\nASHER: That's right.\n\nKREMER: But I even interviewed Mrs. Haas, whose husband, you know, was involved\nas a lawyer and she said ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he never talked about . . . wouldn't talk about it.\n\nASHER: That's right. They were part of the same crowd with my parents. They were\nvery close friends. They played bridge together every Saturday night. My parents\nhad a bridge crew that met every Saturday night for maybe fifty years.\n\nKREMER: Oh, my goodness, who was in the bridge group?\n\nASHER: Well, well, it was Bea and Leonard Haas and Morris and Julia Hirsch and\nJane and Louis [sp] Montag, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barbara and Louis [sp] Levy, Marvin and Rose\nSugarman, Les and Muriel Frazier, Dick and Virginia Rich. I think a lot of these\npeople, you know, passed on in different eras, you know, and it changed as they\nwent and names that I, Herb, and Edith Elsas and Allie Uhry and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ralph I'm sure\nmaybe as well. I can't think of all the others, but there were others.\n\nKREMER: Oh, my goodness, who was in their bridge group?\n\nASHER: Well, well, it was Bea and Leonard Haas and Morris and Julia Hirsch and\nJane and Louis [sp] Montag, Barbara and Louis [sp] Levy, Marvin and Rose [sp]\nSugarman, Les and Muriel Fraser, Dick and Virginia Rich. I think, well a lot of\nthese people, you know, passed on in different era, eras and you know, and it\nchanged as they went and names that I, Herb and Edith Elsas and Allie Uhry and\nRalph, I'm sure maybe as well. I can't think of, of all the others but there\nwere others, and they were...\n\nKREMER: Well, the only name in there I don't recognize is Fraser.\n\nASHER: Oh.\n\nKREMER: They still have descendants here?\n\nASHER: Les Fraser's is still alive, I think he's a hundred, but I'm not sure.\n\nKREMER: Oh, my goodness.\n\nASHER: He's here. Do you remember the casual corner shop? he and his wife,\nMuriel, had the Casual Corner Shops in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1920.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this area. I don't . . . and they have a\nson and a daughter. The son is Tommy Fraser, he lives here in Atlanta while the\ndaughter lives in Washington, I believe. But you know all the rest of them.\n\nKREMER: Yes, that's right. We probably interview a lot of the rest of them.\n\nASHER: Let's talk about that.\n\nKREMER: No, it's okay. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, when we talk about your family, you talked about\nyour parents and their card club and going to the Standard Club. What did you do\nas a family together?\n\nASHER: Well, we would, Tommy and I would be, we would go out to dinner with them\non Thursday nights and Sunday nights. Thursday nights . . .\n\nKREMER: Because you didn't have the cook there.\n\nASHER: . . . there was no help, there was no help at home.\n\nKREMER: Yeah, right.\n\nASHER: . . . so we went out. We'd go to the Toddle House, or we might go to the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Majestic, or we may go to the Standard Club if my parents thought that we\nweren't going to be too unruly and, so they would take us there. Let's see, and\nas a family we would go to the Standard Club also on other occasions. We didn't\nreally travel with them as youngsters. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That amazingly enough was a camp in\nMaine that lasted from about 1906 to about 1956 at least.\n\nKREMER: Oh no, it was longer than that . . .\n\nASHER: Was it?\n\nKREMER: . . . because I looked at that for one of my sons.\n\nASHER: Oh, okay.\n\nKREMER: I did.\n\nASHER: Okay, well that camp had only boys, I didn't know this when I went there,\nbut the boys who went there were really from similar backgrounds. They were\nGerman Jewish family, their kids. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, our growing up in Atlanta, as well as even\ngoing away to camp was similar to what Stephen Birmingham wrote about in the\nbook Our Crowd. Even though Our Crowd didn't focus on Atlanta, but Atlanta had a\nvery similar type of group that, that Our Crowd has. Let's see, what else could\nwe do? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2100.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which, as . . .\n\nKREMER: Well, we're talking about, you know, elementary, junior high.\n\nASHER: Yes.\n\nKREMER: Were there any other clubs that you belonged to?\n\nASHER: No.\n\nKREMER: Boy Scouts?\n\nASHER: Well, I was a Boy Scout. Cub Scout and a Boy Scout. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was too much work to get to be an Eagle in those days.\n\nKREMER: Still is.\n\nASHER: We had other interests. we both went away from Atlanta when, let's see, I\nwas sixteen years old, sixteen years old when I really went away to boarding school.\n\nKREMER: So, you were like in a junior in high school?\n\nASHER: I was really going; ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was a senior.\n\nKREMER: Okay.\n\nASHER: Seventeen years old, I was seventeen.: I had gone to Marist College after\nhigh, after elementary school at Highland, I went to Marist College, it was\ncalled then. It was an all-boys military, Catholic school. There were very few\nJewish boys in the school, but I did know some in each grade. There were usually\ntwo, maybe three ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in each grade.\n\nKREMER: What prompted your family to send you there?\n\nASHER: In those days Atlanta didn't have what they thought was a very good high\nschool or junior. We didn't have junior highs. They thought that to get into a\ngood college they would want us to go to a private school with a good reputation\nand Marist was the high school that was private. It happened to be a parochial\nschool and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it didn't have a very good reputation.\n\nKREMER: Who were the Jewish people in your class?\n\nASHER: Alan Smith was in my class. Lyons Joel and Jay Martin were a year ahead\nof me, and I think, and my brother Tommy was two years behind me. In my class we\nhad a boy named Leonard Rinzler and another one named Herbert Roskin [sp], ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but I\ndon't think those names would mean anything today.\n\nKREMER: But they're Jewish.\n\nASHER: They're Jewish, yes.\n\nKREMER: So, there were pretty, there were a few in there.\n\nASHER: There were a few, yes.\n\nKREMER: Yeah.\n\nASHER: And we had to wear uniforms and it was military. It was tough.\n\nKREMER: Well, so GMA [Georgia Military Academy] was a similar sort of thing.\n\nASHER: Yes, it was.\n\nKREMER: It just wasn't religious.\n\nASHER: Right, and it was a long way to go. In those days, transportation wasn't\nlike it is today.\n\nKREMER: It's even longer ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"today.\n\nASHER: But we could actually get on a streetcar. We could walk to the streetcar\nfrom our house and get off at Marist, but our parents preferred to have us\ndriven in their large LaSalle or Cadillac with Riley--our chauffeur--dressed in\nuniform. Tommy and I did not like to be dropped off or picked up that way, so we\ninsisted that Riley drop us off a block away ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and pick us up a block away from\nschool every time, we were told that he was going to be taking us. That's just\nan aside.\n\nKREMER: So, you were embarrassed about that?\n\nASHER: Yes, definitely.\n\nKREMER: Yeah.\n\nASHER: Right.\n\nKREMER: It wasn't, your friends all weren't being dropped off by . . .\n\nASHER: No.\n\nKREMER: . . . chauffeurs and all . . .\n\nASHER: No.\n\nKREMER: . . . that kind of stuff.\n\nASHER: No.\n\nKREMER: Yeah, so . . .\n\nASHER: The best thing that happened going to Marist was that Lyons Joel's dad\nused to drive to work that way and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he used to drive them every morning around\nthat same time and we, and he carpooled us and I was always very thankful for\nthe mornings when he would be able to pick us up and take us to school. It was\nmuch better.\n\nKREMER: Okay, so I think we're through high school unless you have some other observations.\n\nASHER: Well, I went to the Asheville School. I don't know whether that's of\ninterest here.\n\nKREMER: Well, that is interesting, yeah. Why, and you . . . oh, they wanted you\nto get . . .\n\nASHER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2400.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This was still to try to get into better colleges.\n\nKREMER: . . . better colleges.\n\nASHER: . . . and there were a hundred and it was a boy's boarding school in\nAsheville, North Carolina. There were maybe three Jewish kids in the school.\n\nKREMER: Were they all from Atlanta?\n\nASHER: No, no, there was myself and my brother and Michael Rich and that was it.\nThere may have been, I think, one or two other Jewish boys that, maybe one in\nthe school.\n\nKREMER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm surprised they didn't send you East to boarding school.\n\nASHER: They tried, I just refused. They really did want us both to go to Andover\nwhere my uncle had gone and they even, I think from our smallest age, they\nwanted us to go there. We just, I, at least, I personally didn't want to go that\nfar away from home, so we went to The Asheville School, and it was an excellent\nexperience. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was a great school. I wouldn't say there was anything Jewishly\noriented because there was, there was nothing, but it was very, it was a good experience.\n\nKREMER: Did you experience any prejudice?\n\nASHER: No, I did not.\n\nKREMER: Okay, and you didn't at Marist either?\n\nASHER: At Marist? Not really, no. It was a good school. I mean the Catholic\ndoctrine was taught to the Catholic students and the non-Catholics were usually\ngiven a choice ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to go to a class on civics each year. No one who was not Catholic\nwas really required or even requested to attend a mass or go to any classes on\nCatechism. I don't remember any anti-Semitic incidents.\n\nKREMER: You don't remember your parents saying anything about something they experienced?\n\nASHER: No, I don't.\n\nKREMER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, they pretty much lived in their own world.\n\nASHER: Right, right.\n\nKREMER: . . .you know, so . . .\n\nASHER: It was a very, you know, people liked living there, a little, tiny world.\n\nKREMER: Yeah.\n\nASHER: . . . right?\n\nKREMER: Well, it's interesting because around the Leo Frank time, they say after\nthat happened that the community just really split apart, that Jewish people\nbecame very insular, because they were so undone by the whole thing, so . . .\n\nASHER: That's right.\n\nKREMER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":". . . yeah, okay. Well, this is something that you can answer. I'll\nthrow this one in now because you've lived in both places, because you went to\ncollege in the North. Do you think there's a difference of being Jewish in the\nSouth, then being Jewish in the North?\n\nASHER: Oh well, definitely.\n\nKREMER: Okay.\n\nASHER: I know that I definitely think so.\n\nKREMER: You're a good person to ask this though.\n\nASHER: I mean having lived in both places I think that being Jewish in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the South\nmeans that you're one of a tiny, tiny, minority who has spent generations\nworking toward assimilation. I'm not saying that's true for everyone, but that\nwas my feeling growing up. You are trying really hard to assimilate in with the\ngeneral community in everyone turned away when it comes to anything social, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but\nother than that, being pretty much accepted. When you go to the North, it's like\nhere is this huge Jewish population. When I went to Cornell [University], when I\nfirst got there as a freshman and realized that of the ten thousand students at\nCornell, two thousand of them were Jewish. I, that blew my mind. I could not. I\nmean, I'd never seen two ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thousand Jews in my life, I mean much less, you know\nmuch less two hundred. Anyway, it was like two thousand all at this one college\nand they are you know, it was a totally different lifestyle. The Jews in the\nNorth were brought up totally differently.\n\nKREMER: In what way?\n\nASHER: 1 feel that they were brought up with, well, first of all, with the\nreligious background, which I didn't have here even though I was confirmed at\nThe Temple and had been there from kindergarten ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"through the tenth grade, at The\nTemple. I don't, I didn't find that I learned anything about Judaism.\n\nKREMER: You weren't bar mitzvah or anything?\n\nASHER: No, there were no bar mitzvahs in at The Temple at that period of time,\nso we never learned Hebrew.\n\nKREMER: How did you get a Hebrew name?\n\nASHER: Well, that came much later. That came after my second marriage to Millie.\n\nKREMER: Oh, okay.\n\nASHER: I didn't . . . If you want, I can cover that now or later.\n\nKREMER: Go ahead and cover it now as long as we're ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there. That's funny, so you\njust needed to have one.\n\nASHER: Much later, I had to, I needed a Hebrew name when I married Millie. We\nstarted going to a lot of bar mitzvahs and we also were going to weddings, and I\nbelieve the first time I needed one was when I married Millie. When I married\nMillie, they asked me what my Hebrew name was. Well, I didn't have a Hebrew\nname. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2760.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then when my son got\nmarried, I needed a Hebrew name and I had already forgotten my first one, so I\nthink I did the same thing.\n\nKREMER: It wasn't on your ketubah?\n\nASHER: Well, if it is, I don't know how to read, I'm not sure how to read it.\n\nKREMER: Okay.\n\nASHER: It may be there, but eventually it got to the point where we were going\nto bar mitzvahs and bat mitzvahs in the family and so I really found through my\nstepdaughter ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2790.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I really needed one that I could use all the time. I do have\none now and when I was asked for it by you for this meeting, I had to go find\nit. I found it in a desk drawer Written in pencil on the back of my Aliyah that\nwas phonetically written for one of the bar mitzvahs, so I've written it down\nthere and it is Zephaniah Ben Yosef which ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"translates Zephaniah Ben Yosef.\n\nKREMER: Well, it's son of Yosef.\n\nASHER: Son of Joseph?\n\nKREMER: Yeah.\n\nASHER: Well, I'm son of, my father is Joseph. Is that what it means? Son of Joseph?\n\nKREMER: Yeah. Well, no Zephaniah is your name.\n\nASHER: . . . son, yeah . . .\n\nKREMER: Yeah.\n\nASHER: . . . so it's Zephaniah son of Joseph. That's the one. That's it and I'm\nsticking to it.\n\nKREMER: Well, I mean, again, because most people that you knew growing up at The\nTemple didn't have Hebrew names.\n\nASHER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2850.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I suppose your right. I mean, I didn't know of one and we grew up\nin the era of Dr. Marks. With Dr. Marks, you know, we rarely went to any\nservices. The only time we ever went to a service was if we were training to be\nconferment. We had to learn our parts and we had to attend a certain number of\nservices, but usually we didn't.\n\nKREMER: Your family didn't go to the High Holiday [High Holy Days] services?\n\nASHER: Rarely. I don't think my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"father went. If he did, I don't recall him\ngoing. My mother would go only on certain times, but not always. We had an aunt\n. . . one of my father's sisters who would go religiously with her\nsister-in-law, another aunt of mine, and they would take us with them\noccasionally to Temple, but they . . .\n\nKREMER: Did your mother light Friday night candles?\n\nASHER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, never. We never had Friday night candles.\n\nKREMER: Did you ever have Seder?\n\nASHER: No, never. The only Seders that we attended as children were at another\nfamily's house. It was either at Jay Martin's parent's house, our neighbor, or\nat Ben Parker. You remember Ben Parker, Rachel Neely Parker, Frank Neely . . .\nwell, anyway, they, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that household [Parker Household], there were two households\nwhere I remember going to a Seder only. We didn't go regularly, maybe twice.\n\nKREMER: Did you celebrate Chanukah and/or Christmas?\n\nASHER: Only Christmas. We did celebrate Christmas every year.\n\nKREMER: And you had a tree?\n\nASHER: We had a tree every year and presents. We never celebrated Chanukah. We\ndidn't celebrate any . . .\n\nKREMER: . . . any Jewish Holiday?\n\nASHER: . . . any Jewish Holidays at all. None, none. We didn't know about that.\nEven though we . . .\n\nKREMER: You didn't learn about it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at Sunday School?\n\nASHER: No.\n\nKREMER: Kremer interviewing Norman Asher on August 25, 2006 for The Atlanta\nJewish Oral History Project co-sponsored by The American Jewish Committee, The\nJewish Federation of Greater Atlanta, and The National Council of Jewish Women.\nThis is Tape II of the first day of our interviews. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay Norman, we were talking\nalso about the difference between Northern and Southern Jews. When you got to\nCornell, how did you decide on Cornell, by the way?\n\nASHER: Well, at The Asheville School they have very good college counseling, and\nthey really help you, like any prep school does, to decide where, what would be\nbest, and I decided to apply to Cornell and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Princeton [University]. I knew that\nmy uncle had been a graduate of Cornell and I also, but I, and only applied to\nthose two. I was put on the waiting list at Princeton and I was immediately\naccepted at Cornell so instead of . . . . I did want to go up East. I didn't\nwant to stay in the South. I wanted to do, to see that part of the country and\nto go to an Ivy League School.\n\nKREMER: Now did your brother, was he a year behind you when you graduated or did\nhe still . . . ?\n\nASHER: He was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a year behind me.\n\nKREMER: Okay, so even though you spent an extra year, he was still a year behind you.\n\nASHER: That's right.\n\nKREMER: Okay.\n\nASHER: Okay, and then he ended up going to Cornell as well, as you know. 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There were a lot of\nJewish families where they lived and by staying in the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"New York area for\nvacations, since Atlanta would be very difficult to commute back and forth to,\neven during Thanksgiving break or the short break during winter break, we would\nbe able to socialize with their families. I would be invited to different\npeople's families in the city and get to learn that there really is Judaism in\nthere, in these people family. They really do, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they respect, and they look up to\nthe fact that they're Jewish. They don't, they don't necessarily are interested,\nthey're not interested in assimilation. They just are interested in being\nthemselves and . . .\n\nKREMER: Were these people Reformed, Conservative or Orthodox?\n\nASHER: They could have been any of the above, but I think most of them were\nReformed. I don't think, none of them were Orthodox and it's possible that some\nwere Conservative, but I think that the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"majority were Reformed, even in New\nYork. But by Reformed in New York that was the more traditional back then, even\n[more] than what we had experienced in Atlanta.\n\nKREMER: Well, Southern Classical Reformed Judaism a thing into itself really.\nIt's not it like it was in other parts of the country.\n\nASHER: Right, I know it is different, but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thought it was a great experience\nhaving, be, to have, being exposed to a Jewish, a large Jewish population, both\nboys and girls. We dated both Jewish and non-Jewish at college. It didn't matter.\n\nKREMER: Did the Jewish girls join Jewish sororities?\n\nASHER: Yes, I'd say . . .\n\nKREMER: Could you . . . ?\n\nASHER: . . . ninety-nine percent did.\n\nKREMER: Could you have joined a non-Jewish fraternity?\n\nASHER: Yes, it's possible. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is possible, but very few people did. We had\nfourteen Jewish fraternities.\n\nKREMER: Oh, my goodness.\n\nASHER: We had I think almost forty Christian fraternities. It was like, it was\nhuge. The fraternity movement was at its peak back in the fifties, and you could\ngo either, you could join a non-Jewish fraternity. I had a cousin who was there\nfrom ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"New Orleans and he was in a non-Jewish fraternity and . . .\n\nKREMER: That's interesting because at Newcomb [college], you could not join a\nnon-Jewish sorority . . .\n\nASHER: Oh.\n\nKREMER: . . . when I was there.\n\nASHER: Well, my sister-in-law, Spring, joined a non-Jewish sorority at Cornell.\nShe was a few years behind me, but still, she was invited and joined a\nnon-Jewish Sorority. There were others that did, but very few. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, do\nyou want to more at college? I don't know where there's any more about Jewish\nthings related.\n\nKREMER: What other things do you think are pertinent? You majored in . . . ?\n\nASHER: I majored in government thinking I was going to go into the foreign\nservice, but then when it came time to graduate and decide what I was really\ngoing to do, that kind of changed. So, I decided to, I had to go into the\nservice, he armed services first and I did that, so I went to . . .\n\nKREMER: For how long?\n\nASHER: I was active duty ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3360.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for six months, in the field artillery as an officer. I\nhad spent five years in military school in Atlanta, Marist, followed by four\nyears of ROTC [Reserve Officers Training Corps] at Cornell. I wanted to serve as\nlittle time as possible. We had the draft then and I went for six months active\nduty and seven and a half years, I believe it was in the active reserves ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at Fort\nSnell [Oklahoma]. I was in active duty and then after that I moved to New York.\n\nKREMER: Where were you active? Where'd you do your military?\n\nASHER: At Fort Snell, Oklahoma and then at Fort Benning, Georgia.\n\nKREMER: Okay.\n\nASHER: As a Field Artillery Observer, a 105 Millimeter Howitzer Battery Officer\nand as a Fire Directions Center Officer, great jobs. Luckily, we were not at\nwar. We were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"between the Korean and the Vietnamese Wars, so that, I got lucky,\nthat way. That was another interesting experience. There are no war stories\nthough to tell.\n\nKREMER: Well again, being Jewish, did that present a problem or . . . ?\n\nASHER: No, it didn't.\n\nKREMER: You never had any . . .?\n\nASHER: I never . . .\n\nKREMER: You've never experienced any antisemitism, personally.\n\nASHER: Well, you know, not as anything ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"personally against me because I was\nJewish, that I can think of, nothing directed toward me.\n\nASHER: I mean if, the only antisemitism I really ever thought of was me as a\ngroup. I'm part of a group that would be, but not as an individual so . . .\n\nKREMER: Okay, so you did the army, and then?\n\nASHER: Then I moved to New York City where I decided to go into retailing, and I\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"started at Bloomingdale's on their training program. I happened to go there at\nthe same time that Alfred Uhry, from Atlanta was graduating from Brown\nUniversity, a year after I had graduated from Cornell. We were looking to find a\nplace together in New York where he was going to start writing music and we\nlived together in a great brownstone house on West ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"16th Street between 7th and\n8th Avenues with a garden in the back. We had the basement level and the first\nfloor, no air conditioning, the building was built in 1840's. He had a dog that\nwasn't trained to do anything outdoors but indoors, really, was great. I mean he\nwould just do anything everywhere all over the floor, and anyway . . .\n\nKREMER: . . . and he kicked you out.\n\nASHER: . . . 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We started rooming together and there were a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"series of four\ndifferent roommates that I have kept up with ever since we met from. I see\nAlfred, but I don't see Alfred as much. I do see the other four that we lived\nwith that he, that Alfred introduced me to at least once a year. We have gotten\ntogether every year with our wives.\n\nKREMER: Do they all live in New York?\n\nASHER: Over the last twenty years. No, one of them lives in London [England].\nHe's lived in London all of his adult life. None of them are Jewish, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3600.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but one of\nthem has a Jewish son-in-law, where we discuss that a lot, and he has two, you\nknow, grandchildren who are half Jewish and they . . . one lives in Charleston,\nSouth Carolina, one lives in Vermont [state in the United States] and one lives\nin Providence, Rhode Island. 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We've\neach had our wife die and the others are all still married to their first wife.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have each, the two of us have each remarried, and happily, and so it's quite\na reunion. It's a good thing that I like to do every summer.\n\nKREMER: That's great. So, you were in New York and then?\n\nASHER: After, I stayed in New York for four and a half years.\n\nKREMER: And you worked at Bloomingdale's?\n\nASHER: At Bloomingdale's . . .\n\nKREMER: . . . that whole time?\n\nKREMER: Well, you resigned to move back to Atlanta.\n\nASHER: Yes, I was at Bloomindale's and that's where I met my wife, Barbara.\nBarbara had graduated ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from Sophie Newcomb College in 1960 and moved to New York\nwith my second Cousin Sally Elsas, who had been Barbara's roommate. Sally grew\nup here in Atlanta and I met Barbara through Sally. Barbara also started to work\nat Bloomingdale's. At one point when she was working there, she was assigned to\nbe my trainee, so I was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"working, she was, I was her boss. That was about the\nonly time I was ever her boss. We dated [for] a while and we got married in\n1963. [We] were married for thirty-three years, almost thirty-three years before\nshe died. We moved back to Atlanta, both of us, right after our wedding. 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We had an apartment before then, but that was\nour first, that was our very first house, and we stayed in that house . . .\n\nKREMER: Forever.\n\nASHER: Yes, we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did. We did a few things with it after we got there, but we still\nstayed there in that one address. That's where we raised our kids and there [it]\nwas great. That's a terrific neighborhood to raise the kids in. We had maybe\nfour streets. They were very much cut off from through streets. 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We would go\nto Sarasota, Florida for a number of years and then to Hilton Head when the kids\ngot a little older, and then, until they went away to college, we did that.\nThose were terrific times, to be able to be together for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"an extended period of\ntime with the family.\n\nKREMER: Did you do with your children; did you send them away to prep school and\nstuff like that?\n\nASHER: No, we didn't. Atlanta had, of course, changed dramatically from the time\n1 grew up until the [time] our children were growing up. 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Then he went, got a\ngraduate, master's in business at Emory [University] and he has, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4020.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had been at\nWestminster and settling in Atlanta. [Lee] made a lot of friends at Westminster\nand they are, even today, very close. They, he still does a lot with his friends\nthat he had growing up. Helen, when she married Michael, moved to Jacksonville,\nFlorida where they have a lot of close friends, who are, you know, people she\nand Michael met together. 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My four and her 11, and we\nspend most of the year either going to visit them or they come here to visit us.\nMillie is, fortunately for me, a gatherer of families ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4140.0,4170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and she really allows me\nto have a lot of experiences that I never had growing up because she's\nunbelievably family oriented. [Millie] has even been able to organize a cruise\nat one point for 44 of our family at one time, and they all came. We had, not\nonly all of our own children and grandchildren, but some of our children brought\ntheir spouse's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4170.0,4200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"families along. Millie's sisters brought some of their kids and\ngrandkids along and we just had a great time.\n\nKREMER: Where did you cruise?\n\nASHER: We cruised the Caribbean over one of the Christmas breaks and we were the\nlargest group on the ship, with 44.\n\nKREMER: Well, let's back up a minute.\n\nASHER: Yes.\n\nKREMER: Let, okay, so you and Barbara got married in 1963?\n\nASHER: Right.\n\nKREMER: . . . and you came back ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4200.0,4230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to Atlanta? And what changes did you notice?\n\nASHER: Oh well when we came back to Atlanta, Atlanta had, first of all Atlanta\nhad been integrated pretty much as opposed to what it was when I had left 12\nyears earlier. I had literally left in 1951 to go away to prep school and didn't\ncome back until 1963. In that period of time, I mean, Atlanta had gone from a\nsegregated ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4230.0,4260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"community to an integrated community. This was one big, big change\nthat I could see immediately and . . .\n\nKREMER: How did you notice the change? I mean what change, I mean what, how did\nit manifest itself?\n\nASHER: Well, it . . .\n\nKREMER: What did you see?\n\nASHER: I noticed it mostly through business, through working . . . In the job\nplace, the jobs were open to anyone and everyone. 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But now that you mention it, when I was at\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4290.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bloomingdale's, that was early on at Bloomingdale's I went across the street to\nhave lunch one day and I sat down at the counter and a black woman sat next to\nme. I had never been in that situation before, so I mean I'm thinking, you know,\nthis is really, you know a change that I am making for myself. That have the\ncountry has made that it's perfectly okay, you know, right for a black and a\nwhite person to sit at the same counter ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4320.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at the same restaurant, having lunch.\nSo, the segregation and integration switch began to make an impression on me\nwhen I first went to work at Bloomingdale's, but then . . .\n\nKREMER: But what did it? What about the schools in Atlanta when you came here? I\nmean, is that why you sent your kids to private schools?\n\nASHER: No.\n\nKREMER: . . . to the schools, because you went to a public school for a while?\n\nASHER: Yes, but I, we didn't send them to private school. 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We became friendly with people ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4500.0,4530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who came here from all over, depending\n[on] if they were in our age group, we usually became friendly with them.\n\nKREMER: Oh, at that point, did people from the Conservative and Orthodox\ncommunities join the Standard Club?\n\nASHER: Yes, definitely.\n\nKREMER: Okay, so they were already integrating the clubs.\n\nASHER: Oh yes, they were integrating at clubs in the sixties. I think in the\nfifties is they may have started that.\n\nKREMER: Well probably, I've forgotten when the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4530.0,4560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mayfair Club burned down and . . .\n\nASHER: Yeah.\n\nKREMER: . . . all that but . . .\n\nASHER: . . . and the Progressive Club closed. . . . I don't remember either, but\nI don't, I do know that when that happened that the Standard Club took in\nmembers, you know, quite readily. I didn't recall that there would be any reason\nwhy they didn't. Prior to that time, there were reasons that were, you know,\ninvalid, but they still had reasons they didn't, they didn't take anyone.\n\nKREMER: Well, because you were away at ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4560.0,4590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"college and then went to New York, were\nyou involved with Ballyhoo or any of those?\n\nASHER: I was not of that age group. No, I left Atlanta, Ballyhoo really closed\ndown when I was becoming of age . . .\n\nKREMER: Oh okay.\n\nASHER: . . . to be part of that. I was just at the tail end of it, and I was in\nthe youngest age group that was allowed at Ballyhoo, so I really didn't\nparticipate in a big way. Just, just that much younger. 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That was a High School Jewish fraternity I believe. So socially,\nthe Standard Club was it for me and . . .\n\nKREMER: So then when you got married and you came here where besides the\nStandard Club; were there any organizations you all were involved in?\n\nASHER: Of course, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4680.0,4710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barbara was involved in a lot of things as you know, and I was\nnot really involved. I was really more or less just, I was working full time at\nRich's and was not doing any organizational . . .\n\nKREMER: But . . .\n\nASHER: . . . work.\n\nKREMER: . . . you, for the record, do you want to talk about what you did at\nRich's. I saw something\n\nabout . . .\n\nASHER: Okay.\n\nKREMER: . . . textiles . . .\n\nASHER: Right.\n\nKREMER: . . .and I thought, it runs in the family.\n\nASHER: Well, it does I guess. I hadn't thought of that. When I joined Rich's I\nstarted ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4710.0,4740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by; the home textile's division had many departments and I started by\nthe table linen department. It was a great experience. I did that for about\nseven years and was able to go to Europe every year to actually buy and create\nand buy merchandise for Rich's here. We didn't . . .\n\nASHER: Did Barbara get to go with you?\n\nKREMER: Barbara got to go with me several times. 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Then I went to become Senior Merchandise Planner for the\nHistorical Homes in which I worked with the Senior Vice President over the Home\nStore to pretty much help support all the buying staffs and all of the areas . . .\n\nKREMER: Did that include the furniture? Because [I] remember there was a Rich's\nHome Store with furniture and stuff.\n\nASHER: It did, it did, no, furniture was kind of separate.\n\nKREMER: Oh.\n\nASHER: It was a separate area, but anything other than the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4860.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"furniture. It\nincluded house wares and textiles and tabletop and those were basically it. Then\nafter that, I became the Senior Merchandise Planner for the men's, boys and\nchildren's divisions and that was interesting as well. Then I retired.\n\nKREMER: What year did you retire?\n\nASHER: I retired in 1998. I retired a year after I got married to Millie, which\nwas ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4890.0,4920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a little bit early. I could have stayed on until I was sixty-five, but I\ndecided to take early retirement. I was a newlywed and enjoying that a lot, so I\nretired early. I had gone through several, you know, a terrible time when\nBarbara was sick.\n\nKREMER: Yeah, let's, let's go back to that.\n\nKREMER: She, you know, we won't go into her career because I have that on tape.\n\nASHER: Right.\n\nKREMER: She had a very illustrious, very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4920.0,4950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"busy public service career.\n\nASHER: Definitely.\n\nKREMER: When she was doing all that, what were you doing besides working? You\ndid you partake in stuff and go with her for a lot . . .\n\nASHER: Right.\n\nKREMER: . . . of the stuff she had to be at and that kind of thing?\n\nASHER: I went to some of it. I was selective as to what I was going to. When she\nwas running for office, I would go with her to some of the events that she had\nto go to. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=4950.0,4980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When she was in office, I would go with her to the semi-annual big\nconventions that she'd have to go to.\n\nKREMER: Just for this tape, say what office that she was in.\n\nASHER: She . . .\n\nKREMER: . . . for what years?\n\nASHER: Well, she was a member of the Atlanta City Council, elected at large,\ncity wide five different times and I think it was from . . .\n\nKREMER: From what years?\n\nASHER: . . . 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In the daytime, I would go on tours of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5010.0,5040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"area and then meet up\nwith her for the evenings. So, she would go with me on buying trips to Europe\nand I'd go with her on these conventions. I didn't really participate with her\nin the political scene. She did this on her own. It was her thing and she also\nworked while, well you know that. We don't even need to go into that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5040.0,5070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too. The\nkids seemed to thrive on all of this. I'm sure that the kids probably, she\ndidn't do any of this until the children were about fourteen years old, but she\nstayed at home most of the time until the kids were . . .\n\nKREMER: Well, but she was involved as a volunteer with, she was president of\nNCJW [National Council of Jewish Women].\n\nASHER: Right.\n\nKREMER: I'm sure she must have done a lot of other things too.\n\nASHER: Yes, and she worked those around the kids schedules in school. She tried\nto, sometimes, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5070.0,5100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but that was a, she really did like Council. That was her major\nJewish interest. She did a phenomenal job with Council. [She] went on to become,\nI think, a regional vice-president of Council and let's see what else . . .\n\nKREMER: Well, we're talking about you so . . .\n\nASHER: Yes.\n\nKREMER: When she was busy doing all that were, you involved in community ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5100.0,5130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"organizations? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5130.0,5160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nASHER: No, no I was working, and I really didn't, I wanted to. I really didn't\ndo anything until I retired in 1998. I was . . .\n\nKREMER: Well, you've done a lot since then.\n\nASHER: I wanted to really get involved in that. I could say I was a member of\nthe Metropolitan Atlanta Boys and Girls Club board. It was really the Boys Club\nboard [back] then, but I didn't get too involved because it looked to me like it\nwas run by a clique of much older men and it was just very difficult to get a,\nget a foot in the door. Even though I was on the board, they didn't really ask\nme to do anything, so I kind of bowed out. Other than that . . .\n\nKREMER: Were you all involved in, I know she was involved in NCJW, were you\ninvolved in anything else Jewish? Did you, would go to Temple and all that\nstuff? Were you more involved ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5160.0,5190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than you were as a kid? Did you celebrate holidays\nat home?\n\nASHER: We celebrated Christmas at home with Helen and Lee [and] we did have Chanukah.\n\nKREMER: Did you have a tree?\n\nASHER: We had a tree, and we had a Chanukah Menorah. We didn't do Seder at our\nhouse, we did it at my brother's house every year. We . . . 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But otherwise Jewishly [things], I made sure that\nLee ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5220.0,5250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was bar mitzvahed. I really wanted him to be bar mitzvahed. I could not be\nbar mitzvahed, not that I knew whether I would have wanted to be or not. I mean\nif it had been something that my parents, you know, knew we should do I would\nhave done it, but we didn't know about bar mitzvah. I only had one friend who\nwas bar mitzvahed in all the time I was growing up, Jay Martin whose family were\nConservative too. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5250.0,5280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He, well, actually they went to The Temple, but they had him\nconfirm, bar mitzvahed through the AA [Ahavath Achim Synagogue]. I wanted to\nmake sure Lee was bar mitzvahed and he went through with it with flying colors.\nI was very proud for him to have done that, and Helen was confirmed. Helen,\nsimilarly, to me, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5280.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did not, I would say, take to learning a whole lot about\nJudaism as a child growing up here in Atlanta with Barbara and me. Barbara\ndidn't grow up in a religious family either even though they lived in this town\nin Wisconsin with only about six Jewish families in Marshall.\n\nKREMER: Weren't her parents of mixed marriage?\n\nASHER: Yeah, her mother was Catholic . . .\n\nKREMER: Yeah.\n\nASHER: . . . and her father was Jewish.\n\nKREMER: But she was raised Jewish.\n\nASHER: She was raised Jewish . . .\n\nKREMER: Yeah.\n\nASHER: . . . and her ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5310.0,5340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mother always professed to be, you know, having converted\nto Judaism. She may not have done it formally, but she always was more\ninterested in Judaism than anything else. She never did anything that would,\nyou, make you think that she was really Catholic. Her father who was devoutly\nCatholic, her father's . . .\n\nKREMER: [indistinct: 01:28] Oh, her mother's father . . .\n\nASHER: . . .who, and he visited us ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"frequently, was just a delightful man and\nvery accepting of any religions. It didn't matter to him. Back to Helen, Helen\nwhen she married Michael Debow and moved to Jacksonville [Florida], knew that\nshe would be raising her children Jewish and she, and by that, I mean really she\nwould be part of a family of Jewishly observant ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5370.0,5400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people. They were Conservative\n[Jewish], and she was going to be part of it. As her kids, as Sophie and Charlie\nstarted going to Hebrew School and to Solomon Schechter [sp] School and to\nservices, Helen would get their books and she would learn with them. She would\nsit there and learn everything that the children . . .\n\nKREMER: Did she have an adult b'nai mitzvah?\n\nASHER: Did she have what? I . . .\n\nKREMER: An adult b'nai mitzvah.\n\nASHER: No, she didn't, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5400.0,5430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but she is very, you know, really Jewishly oriented, and\nI'm very proud of her for that. She's really, it's not something that she has\nshied away from, it's something that she supports a hundred percent and she's\nbeen president of Hadassah in Jacksonville and she does an awful lot for the\nJewish community in Jacksonville. Lee and his ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5430.0,5460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wife, Sarah [sp], are bringing\ntheir kids up here in Atlanta at The Temple. They are still very young, but I'm\nsure that they, that we will have a bar mitzvah and maybe a bat mitzvah. Helen's\ndaughter has already been bat mitzvahed and her son will be bar mitzvahed next\nyear. I tell you, I'm just, I'm just flabbergasted when I go to their services,\nand, to see my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5460.0,5490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"13-year-old get up at the Pulpit and start rattling off\neverything in Hebrew; I mean she, it's like second nature to her. It means\nnothing for her to stand up in front of a group, first of all, and to speak out\nand to have do it with feeling and emotion and really knowing what she's to say\nand doing. So, it's a very proud thing to see.\n\nKREMER: They've come a long way since . . .\n\nASHER: Yeah.\n\nKREMER: . . . since your parents\n\nASHER: Oh, they have, they have. I don't think that movement started with my\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5490.0,5520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"parents. I think it was their parents before them and even maybe even the\ngrandparents before them. I don't know how far back it goes but that Classical\nReform Movement went too far, I mean, it, and, it was not . . .\n\nKREMER: Well, it's certainly swinging back the other way . . .\n\nASHER: Definitely.\n\nKREMER: . . . I mean . . .\n\nASHER: Yes.\n\nKREMER: . . . just look at the history of our Temple and it's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5520.0,5550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very interesting\n\nASHER: Definitely.\n\nKREMER: Okay, so Barbara had her political career, and you had your work career.\nYou raised your kids, and did you; there weren't any other clubs that were\nJewish oriented, did you belong to the Standard Club and all that.\n\nASHER: Yes, we belonged to the Standard Club, we did while the kids were growing\nup. I stayed at the Standard Club from the time I was born ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5550.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"until Helen was about\n15 years old. Helen and Lee's friends were really not members of the Standard\nClub. They were friends from Westminster and Pace and they went all in different\ndirections, so they weren't interested in going to the club. Barbara was never a\nclub person; she couldn't have cared less about card playing or mahjong or\ntennis or golf. She loved laying by the pool, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5580.0,5610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she loved reading and she\nloved going to the beach. So, I was the only one using the club, so I left the\nclub. That . . .\n\nKREMER: But were you playing golf?\n\nASHER: I played golf and tennis, but I still thought, you know, I'm the only one\nusing it so I decided to resign back in the seventies.\n\nKREMER: Oh, a long time.\n\nASHER: Yeah, late seventies I think it was. So, and the kids have, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5610.0,5640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they\ndeveloped, you know, their friends from school and that's who they really went\naround with. Helen went around with mostly Jewish kids. Lee's crowd was very\nmixed, very much mixed. His buddies were both Jewish and Christian and no one\ncared one way or the other. Barbara and I raised them to not, we never, either\none of us, insisted that they date anyone Jewish, never. 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Barbara never knew Lee's wife, but I'm\nsure she would be very happy to have known her too, but . . .\n\nKREMER: I'm trying to think, Barbara died when?\n\nASHER: She died in December of 1995 and, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5670.0,5700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and so....\n\nKREMER: She got sick . . .\n\nASHER: In October of 1995.\n\nKREMER: I remember, it was just, I remember just talking to her.\n\nASHER: You do?\n\nKREMER: I do, I called her at one point, she was, was she still in the hospital\nand she said, \"You know, I'll see you when I come home, and I'll bring you some\nsuper [indistinct: 01:35]\"\n\nASHER: Yeah.\n\nKREMER: I mean, it was so devastating.\n\nASHER: It was.\n\nKREMER: It must have been just horrendous for you.\n\nASHER: It was really a terrible experience, a horrible thing. 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It was two full months and she had had\na stroke the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5730.0,5760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"night that Opal hit Atlanta, the night of the big hurricane Opal.\nThat was the beginning of the end. Then, we thought she was getting better and a\nmonth later she had a series of strokes, and it was just; we had gone through\nrehab at Emory at one point with them, and we talked to Lewis Holland a lot\nabout it because he had gone through something similar . . . 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He's, and his current wife ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5790.0,5820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sarah Allen [sp] who Millie had\nknown from New Orleans happened to invite me to a dinner party and happened to\ninvite Millie to attend the same party at their house and put us at the table\ntogether and . . .\n\nKREMER: I didn't realize that that's how you met.\n\nASHER: Yes, and we started talking. We were across the table from each other\nand, they had put Betty Nathan right next to me. Betty Nathan in her immitigable\n. . . way ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5820.0,5850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is telling Millie all about me and my family. I'm trying to just talk\nto Millie, but Betty Nathan is shooting information across to . . .\n\nKREMER: Yeah.\n\nASHER: Millie who had, they [Millie and Betty] had driven over to the house, to\nthis house together because they both lived in Park Place, Betty Nathan and Millie.\n\nKREMER: I mean Betty was quite elderly then, wasn't . . . ?\n\nASHER: Not really, you know . . .\n\nKREMER: . . . was she?\n\nASHER: 1 mean, well I mean, we're talking about ten, let's see ten ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5850.0,5880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years ago\nmaybe. We've been married nine years, maybe it's ten and a half years ago, but\nshe; and it was like after this dinner party, the next day I called Sarah [sp]\nand I said, \"What was her name and what is her phone number?\" So, from there I\njust started taking her out and we just kind of hit it off and . . .\n\nKREMER: How did your children handle that?\n\nKREMER: Okay, so you and Millie started dating in the winter ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5880.0,5910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of 1996 and . . . ?\n\nASHER: And we kept, started dating more and more. The Atlanta Summer Olympic\nGames came in 1996 and it so happened that Barbara had been able to obtain\ntickets for the opening ceremony of the Olympics and she was no longer here. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5910.0,5940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I\nfelt like you know that this would be a, you know, well did not, this is wrong.\nThat's not what I did. Millie also had tickets for the Olympics for this opening\nceremony. I took my son Lee to the opening ceremonies and Millie went with a boy\nfriend, not a boy, an acquaintance of hers from New Orleans [Louisiana]. We\nprobably didn't know it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5940.0,5970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at that time that we were each going to the same event.\nWith the Olympics being on for two weeks, I happened to invite Millie to go with\nme to several of the other events. We had tickets to something every day and she\nand I just hit it off tremendously at that time. We really became . . .\n\nKREMER: But you had already . . .\n\nASHER: . . .very close.\n\nKREMER: . . . been dating some.\n\nASHER: We had been dating some.\n\nKREMER: Yeah.\n\nASHER: I was dating other people up until that time. I had, I was going out with\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=5970.0,6000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at least two others fairly regularly.\n\nKREMER: Who else were you going out with then? I'm trying to remember. I should\nhave known that.\n\nASHER: No . . .\n\nKREMER: It doesn't matter.\n\nASHER: Jean Stein, Jean Goldstein, Jean . . .\n\nKREMER: Okay, she isn't living.\n\nASHER: She is not living.\n\nKREMER: Okay.\n\nASHER: . . . she was married to Alan . . .\n\nKREMER: Yeah.\n\nASHER: . . . Piasick [sp].\n\nKREMER: Right.\n\nASHER: And . . . there was, oh Toby, Toby who married Arnold Holser [sp].\n\nKREMER: Oh, okay . . .\n\nASHER: I took . . .\n\nKREMER: . . . alright . . .\n\nASHER: ... out a few times . . .\n\nKREMER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6000.0,6030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay.\n\nASHER: . . . but she [indistinct: 01:40]\n\nKREMER: Oh, that's fine, we use names.\n\nASHER: It doesn't matter because we're all, you know, happily married again. At\nany rate, when the Olympics came, that was when Millie and I were really\nbecoming more serious even though she had this friend come in from New Orleans\nto go out with her for the Opening Ceremonies, but after that we went out a lot\nand . . .\n\nKREMER: Ann Kremer ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6030.0,6060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interviewing Norman Asher on the August 31, 2006 for the Oral\nHistory Project of Atlanta co-sponsored by The American Jewish Committee, The\nAtlanta Jewish Federation and The National Council of Jewish Women. Norman, this\nis our third tape, this is Tape III and I think we've gotten up to, we went\nthrough ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6060.0,6090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barbara's death and your readjustment and your family's readjustment and\nthat's where we left off. During this time, were you doing? were you still working?\n\nASHER: Yes, I was still working at Rich's. I really stayed on at Rich's until\nactually after I married Millie. We were married for maybe a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6090.0,6120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"year and then I retired.\n\nKREMER: How old were you when you retired? I decided to take early retirement\nbecause I was very, very happy now being newly married and wanted to spend a lot\nmore time with Millie and with our new extended family of . . . . When I got\nmarried to Millie, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6120.0,6150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she had already had four children and quite a few\ngrandchildren. I had my two kids and grandchildren, so between us we had a large\nfamily, which we thoroughly enjoyed visiting and being around us. So, we had\ndecided to devote more time traveling and being with the kids and being with Millie.\n\nKREMER: Now, you told me you met her at a dinner party.\n\nASHER: Right.\n\nKREMER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6150.0,6180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that you were dating a number of people. Then I've forgotten, there\nwas some catalyst where all of a sudden you realized the two of you were it.\n\nASHER: Right, well you mean, well there was, you mean, as far as, I told you how\nwe met . . .\n\nKREMER: Yes.\n\nASHER: . . . and how we started to date.\n\nKREMER: Right.\n\nASHER: It was just that, we had only been, we'd been dating maybe by seven, six\nmonths and I decided that I felt like ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6180.0,6210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she was really the one and I was, I had\nfallen in love with her, and she said likewise with, to me and we decided that\nwe would get married. We, this was about the time of the summer Olympics in\nAtlanta, 1996.\n\nKREMER: So, when did you actually get married?\n\nASHER: We were married in April 6, 1997.\n\nKREMER: Oh, okay.\n\nASHER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6210.0,6240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, we had a courtship of maybe you know a little over a year, totally\nand we got married. We spent our honeymoon in Europe, which was wonderful, we\nhad a great time. We were in Italy and just thoroughly enjoyed being together\nand we still do after nine and a half years. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6240.0,6270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're still together and we plan to\nkeep it this way. We made a pact that we would stay married for thirty years and\nafter thirty years, then we could each just start messing around. That's the way\nwe're going to keep it.\n\nKREMER: Well may you have a wonderful thirtieth year celebration.\n\nASHER: Well, thank you. Over the nine years that we've been married, we\ncurrently have six married children. So, we have seven, we have 12 kids all\ntogether ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6270.0,6300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"counting spouses and we have 15 grandchildren between us. My four\ngrandchildren and her one. We think we're finished, but we never know. We're\nalways hoping for another one. They live in different cities, which is exciting\nfor us. We get to travel to New York and Louisville [Kentucky] and Birmingham\n[Alabama] and Jacksonville, as well as having one here in Atlanta, which is\nterrific. My son ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6300.0,6330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lee lives here in Atlanta with his wife Sarah [sp] and their\ntwo children, Eli and Merrill [sp].\n\nKREMER: And all the rest are someplace else?\n\nASHER: They're all scattered in the other five cities, yes. Anyway, fortunately\nMillie's son and my daughter both live in Jacksonville, which is great for, and\nthey are very close friends. Our kids have become ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6330.0,6360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"friends with each other, and\nthe grandchildren have become friendly with each other. As they grow up, I think\nthey'll continue to be close. They range in age today from 21 years old down to\nseven months. We have them in all age brackets and Millie and I enjoy taking\nthem with us on trips overseas or around the United States, the older ones. We\ntake ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6360.0,6390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one or two of them with us.\n\nKREMER: Well, wait a minute, the 21year old must be in college.\n\nASHER: Well, he's graduating from college next year. He's a senior.\n\nKREMER: Where?\n\nASHER: He's at Muhlenberg [College] in Allentown, Pennsylvania . . .\n\nKREMER: I know Muhlenberg.\n\nASHER: . . . majoring in entrepreneurial business, which is quite a major I\nthink it suits him well. We have a 19-year-old at the University of Texas in\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6390.0,6420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Austin 17-year-old, two 15-year-old and they go on down from there.\n\nKREMER: Wow, wow.\n\nASHER: Once they reach 15, we take them with us on trips. Fortunately for us,\nMillie is a gatherer. She is wonderful at keeping the family together and\nluckily, we've had trips in which all of them will come with us. Even ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6420.0,6450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the older\nones. I remember when I was growing up there would be no way that I would be\nseen with my parents on a trip after I guess 17 years old. Definitely not after\n18, but these kids really enjoy being with the grandparents and the parents and\nthe cousins and their aunts and uncles, so we're very lucky.\n\nKREMER: Well, when you're not traveling and visiting with family what are you\ndoing with yourself?\n\nASHER: Well ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6450.0,6480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"currently I'm on the advisory board of the Historic Oakland\nFoundation and on its executive committee. That foundation has as its primary\ngoal the restoration and renovation of Atlanta's oldest cemetery, dating back to\n1850. The Jewish sections were established in 1860 by the organization that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6480.0,6510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was\na burial society and, in Atlanta and the Hebrew Benevolent Association, and that\neventually became The Temple. We have burial grounds that are, that date back as\nfar as 1860 with the Jew, in the Jewish community here. The cemetery has\nvirtually been sold out. All the plots are sold, but there are gravesites\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6510.0,6540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"available if you can make a deal with an existing owner. Currently the\nrestoration is a huge project. We have a tremendous board, raising money and\nfunds to make this a beautiful Victorian park in which people would be happy\njust coming in and picnicking, jogging, biking, [and] just photographing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6540.0,6570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the\nbeautiful landscaping and sculptures. The monuments are magnificent. They all\ndate back to the Victorian period.\n\nKREMER: How did you get involved with this?\n\nASHER: Well, it, the cemetery sits on a site immediately adjacent to the Fulton\nBag and Cotton Mill which was founded by my great-grandfather, Jacob Elsas. The\ncemetery also contains a mausoleum with the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6570.0,6600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remains of Jacob Elsas and his wife,\nmy great-grandparents as well as many other relatives that I have, ancestors. I\njust am also interested in history so . . . I just became infatuated with the\nidea of joining the group. The other thing that I have do . . .I did for about\neight years, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6600.0,6630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"while I was in retirement, was working very actively with the\nMarcus Jewish Community Center. I served on its board and was very active in\ntheir annual book festival, which I co-chaired for two years. I enjoyed that,\nthat particular type of volunteerism very much and saw the Marcus Jewish\nCommunity Center grow into a huge organization. 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I was able to witness this tremendous growth in membership, a\ntremendous growth in activity at both cultural and athletic and, it covers like\nanything that a child to a senior citizen, a Native American to a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6660.0,6690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russian\nimmigrant or an Israeli would like to do. There're activities for everyone in\nJewish life in Atlanta at the, at the JCC [Jewish Community Center].\n\nKREMER: Now, but don't they have two branches, isn't there one in\n\nASHER: Today . . .\n\nKREMER: . . . Marietta?\n\nASHER: . . . today, they do. They have one in Cobb County; the Blumenthal Park\nand they're establishing one in North Fulton County as well. 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She had a friend who was\nheading up the program of the book festival and this lady said that she would\nlike to have Alfred Uhry come to the book festival and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6720.0,6750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be a guest lecturer, one\nof the primary lecturers. [She asked] did anybody know him? Millie said that she\nknew that I knew him, and she would ask me, and she did. I called Alfred and\nAlfred volunteered to come to Atlanta to be one of their primary speakers in . .\n. . After that, I decided that since he volunteered to come here and I had\nnothing to do with the book festival, I decided I wanted to join the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6750.0,6780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"organization just to be sure that they handled it in a way that he would\nappreciate being part of this. So, I joined the book festival basically just to\nkind of see that he was able to be happy here, and I was enthralled by it. I\nthought it was a very interesting organization.\n\nKREMER: What book was he talking about? Had he written something?\n\nASHER: He hadn't written, well, it was, Driving Miss Daisy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6780.0,6810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had already been done.\n\nKREMER: Right.\n\nASHER: The Last Night of Ballyhoo was current at that time.\n\nKREMER: Oh.\n\nASHER: As a playwright, he hadn't technically written a book. He'd written the,\nyou know, the book for the play.\n\nKREMER: Right.\n\nASHER: And so, he's really, he was a playwright.\n\nKREMER: Right.\n\nASHER: As a playwright, as an Atlantan, as a Jewish figure in that field, he\nqualified as a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6810.0,6840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"speaker. He drew one of the largest crowds we had had to date\nwhen he came, which was, I was just very pleased about that. He came back one\nmore time when I was still active and served on a panel at that time, with Bob\nEvan's brother . . .\n\nKREMER: Oh yeah, I know who you mean.\n\nASHER: . . . and . . .\n\nKREMER: Eli . . .\n\nASHER: Eli ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6840.0,6870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Evans.\n\nKREMER: . . .yeah\n\nASHER: And with Sandy, Sandy something, I can't think of her last name, from New\nYork who has done a lot in the area of. I can't remember what field she's in,\nbut she actually is similar, she's a writer as well. They put on an excellent\nprogram on a panel, in a panel.\n\nKREMER: So, do you still go to the festival . . . ?\n\nASHER: No, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6870.0,6900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I left that two years ago and decided to concentrate on working at\nOakland. I had been active for eight years and found that that was fine, that\nwas enough. I had done my thing; I had helped them develop an evening program\nfor adults and I think it's still going on today. It was, we took the idea from\nthe book festival and expanded it. The evening program at the JCC ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6900.0,6930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was to attract\nadults and we would invite local people from the Atlanta area. They didn't have\nto be Jewish, but it would be local issues of interest to the general community\nas well as to the Jewish community to come and speak several times a year. That\nhas been expanded greatly since I have left the area. I'm really no longer\nactive at the JCC, but I'm very proud of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6930.0,6960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what they are doing for the community.\nIt's an outstanding organization. [I] hope they will come back down to the\nin-town area at some point.\n\nKREMER: Yeah, I have to say . . .\n\nASHER: . . .in the future.\n\nKREMER: I never go there, it's just too far away for me, you know.\n\nASHER: A lot of people do say that, all of who live in Buckhead.\n\nKREMER: It's where it is, it's not a straight shot. It's not, you know, it's\njust not easy to get there from Buckhead.\n\nASHER: It's not easy, but you'd be surprised how little time it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6960.0,6990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"takes from,\n\nKREMER: If it isn't rush hour.\n\nASHER: . . . the Buckhead area. Yes, except for the rush hour, that's right. As\nfar as other activities I was [in], I did serve on the board of the Jewish Home\nfor a short period of time. I did help them one year with their major\nfundraiser. The auxiliary has a major fundraiser ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=6990.0,7020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"every year and I did volunteer\nto help them with their auction. I enjoyed that program very much. It's another\nvery beneficial Jewish organization and they do a tremendous job. They raise a\nlot of money at this particular event, and I've really enjoyed working on\nspecial events. I belong to an investment club that was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7020.0,7050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"founded by my father in\n1951. It's called Future Incorporated. It has approximately, I don't know, maybe\ntwo hundred members and we put on three social events a year. Even though it's\nan investment club, I have been on the board. I was on the board of that. I'm no\nlonger on the board of that, but I was on the board of that for quite a few\nyears and president of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7050.0,7080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the organization for a couple of terms. This organization\ninvests money in various stocks; it's made a lot of money over the 50 some odd\nyears that it's been in existence.\n\nKREMER: I would hope so.\n\nASHER: In fact, it made enough money so that the interest and dividends from\ntheir investments can pay for the three functions ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7080.0,7110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we have every year. We\nhave one of the original members still active, and that's Elliott [sp]\nGoldstein. In fact, for our fiftieth anniversary we put on a huge, huge party at\nthe Atlanta History Center and honored Elliott [sp] at that particular time,\nwith a donation from the, from Future to the History Center. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7110.0,7140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There are a number\nof other charter members who are in Atlanta or somewhere around the United\nStates today, but Ellie [sp] Elliott is still a member. I was part of the second\ngeneration of members and our group ran the organization for a number of years\nled by Lyons Joel, and now it's been turned over to the third generation. The\nthird generation is being led by Brett Bloch [sp] and my son Lee Asher is also\non the board. It started with my father, my brother Tom and I are the second\ngeneration, and our sons and daughter are all members of the third ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7140.0,7170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"generation.\nThere's no telling how long it will last. Maybe it won't last much longer but\nmaybe it will go on . . .\n\nKREMER: Well . . .\n\nASHER: . . . and on and on.\n\nKREMER: . . . does everybody put money in every month ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7170.0,7200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or so?\n\nASHER: There are dues that are paid, semi-annual dues. It isn't a, it's a very,\nvery low rate. It's not like our investing money. You're just putting in enough\nmoney to offset the expenses today. They're . . .\n\nKREMER: So, you're not really investing any more.\n\nASHER: We don't, no, our dues don't really go toward investing. There's enough\nin the funds and the stocks to keep it growing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7200.0,7230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"without additional investing from\nthe dues.\n\nKREMER: So, do you buy and sell, I mean . . . ?\n\nASHER: Yes, there's an investment committee. I'm not involved in that;\ninvestment committee that always meets and decides which stocks to buy, hold and\nsell. They do that periodically. So, the portfolio does change from time to time\nand . . .\n\nKREMER: And that's done with just, from the dividends and the . . .\n\nASHER: Well, they, well they can, well ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7230.0,7260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no, they will actually sell . . .\n\nKREMER: . . . sell and, not like...\n\nASHER: . . . their holdings at certain time and then and buy other things.\n\nKREMER: Well, I'm sure from 50 years ago . . .\n\nASHER: They're like investment . . .\n\nKREMER: . . . they have lots of coke and you know, all those.\n\nASHER: Well, it's quite a diverse portfolio. In an interesting, it's really a\nsocial group more than anything else. And let's see...\n\nKREMER: Now is it mostly Jewish?\n\nASHER: It is, it was started ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7260.0,7290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with 50 Jewish men in 1951, in 1950 was really when\nthey started pulling it together, in 1951 . . .\n\nKREMER: And there were 50 of them? That's a lot of people.\n\nASHER: There were 50 originally, my father, Joe Asher, plus Donald Obendorfer\nand I think there was one other person.\n\nKREMER: Well, I know Alfred Revson [sp] was involved for years.\n\nASHER: Right, Alfred ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7290.0,7320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Revson [sp] was a charter member, I believe, and he was the\ntreasurer until he died recently. There were three men who started it and they\nall met and invited a number, they invited, each one was given I think about 20\nmen to invite to join and . . .\n\nKREMER: Do you know what they had to put in at, at that point if they were\nstarting it?\n\nASHER: I do not ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7320.0,7350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know, I don't know.\n\nKREMER: So, they don't have, I'm sure they must have records . . . ?\n\nASHER: Yes.\n\nKREMER: . . . or a history of it?\n\nASHER: Yes.\n\nKREMER: Because the Breman may be interested in that history because it really\nis an old Jewish organization.\n\nASHER: It is, and I think that the Breman has information. I actually have the\narchives at my house, but 1 think I've given most of them to the Breman. I think\nthey have them, I'm not positive.\n\nKREMER: Well, you might check on that, because that's . . .\n\nASHER: Right.\n\nKREMER: . . . you know, you don't want those to get lost because . . .\n\nASHER: True.\n\nKREMER: . . . it's history.\n\nASHER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7350.0,7380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's true. Let's see, other than those organizations, I have\nparticipated in others that were, were not, I didn't play a role, I just was members.\n\nKREMER: Well, were you . . . ?\n\nASHER: I was a member of other organizations.\n\nKREMER: Yeah. Were your parents involved in leadership positions in any organizations?\n\nASHER: My father was the president of the Atlanta Exchange ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7380.0,7410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Club for many, many\nyears, back in the forties, I believe, the forties and fifties and that's a club\nsimilar to Rotary and Kiwanis, and it's a national civic organization. He was\nalso very active on the board of the Metropolitan Atlanta Boys Clubs and played\na role there, and my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7410.0,7440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mother was active during the war with the Traveler's Aid\nand the USO [United Service Organizations]. Let's see . . .\n\nKREMER: Not any Jewish organizations?\n\nASHER: None that I'm aware of. I mean they were, of course, active members of\nthe Standard Club and members of The Temple, but other than that, I don't know.\n\nKREMER: They weren't involved in any leadership positions ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7440.0,7470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at The Temple or at\nthe Standard Club?\n\nASHER: I don't believe so.\n\nKREMER: Okay.\n\nASHER: Not that I'm aware of.\n\nKREMER: Your mom wasn't in NCJW or anything like that?\n\nASHER: She was a member of NCJW, but not in the leadership role. My wife Barbara\nas you know was president of NCJW and extremely active, but not my mother, no.\n\nKREMER: What about your grandparents? 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I\nknow that my grandfather was active with the Standard Club and was president,\nand I know that my great-grandfather was active in the forming of the Standard\nClub and The Temple and Grady Hospital, and, and the Textile ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7500.0,7530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Engineering\nDepartment at Georgia Tech. I don't know of any other. I'm sure there's a lot\nmore written about them that may be on record. I don't know all of that.\n\nKREMER: Okay, okay. do you remember any conversations about the Holocaust and\nWorld War ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7530.0,7560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"II in your family? I mean, they didn't have any relatives over there .\n. .\n\nASHER: They . . .\n\nKREMER: . . . did they?\n\nASHER: Well actually they did, but I didn't know that until 1993. There were\nrelatives; we didn't find that out, I should say I didn't find that out, until\nwe were going to put together an Elsas family reunion here in Atlanta and we did\nsome research and a lot of letters turned up ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7560.0,7590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that dated back to the 1900's, late\n1930's and early 1940's that evidently were written back and forth by various\nmembers of the Elsas family around, who were actually all over the United States\nby that time trying to raise money to bring some of their other relatives out of\nGermany. They were distant cousins, but they were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7590.0,7620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"relatives, they were cousins,\nand they were able to raise money, I remember seeing a letter in which my mother\nand her brother responded with contributions to the New York branch of the\nfamily who were gathering the funds to bring the people out of Germany. I don't\nrecall how many came out, but they did, they did bring out a number of them ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7620.0,7650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from\nGermany. One family settled here in Atlanta and actually, the only reason I knew\nthat was that when I was at Marist, the two sons were in Marist as well. They,\ntheir mother was Catholic, so they had converted to Catholicism, and they\neventually changed their name from Elsas to another name.\n\nKREMER: What name do you know?\n\nASHER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7650.0,7680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eaton, E-A-T-O-N and I don't know what ever became of them, but I know\nthat they were rescued.\n\nKREMER: Was the father there?\n\nASHER: The father was here too.\n\nKREMER: Okay.\n\nASHER: The father was . . .\n\nKREMER: He was the Jewish one.\n\nASHER: He was Jewish and then he settled here in Atlanta, and they immediately\nbecame Catholic. I don't know whether, I think they probably were going to, I\ndon't know anything about that. Anyway, another part of the family came to\nDallas, Texas ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7680.0,7710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and were able to live there. I think we already discussed them\nearlier, and they went back to Germany and were able to reclaim the textile mill\nin the town where they had been, where the family had a business. These are all\ndistant cousins. There are other cousins that we have found all over, all over\nthe [world]. Some must have gone to Mexico, and some got to, in South America. I\ndon't have a story that I can tell you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7710.0,7740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about how they got there, but it had to\nhave been around the time of the Holocaust. Growing up in Atlanta, we didn't\nreally know much about the Holocaust, we didn't hear much about it, our parents\ndidn't talk as though, if they knew about it, they didn't tell us. We were\npretty much as sheltered as children from anything that was going on. We knew\nthere was a war, of course, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7740.0,7770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we knew there was a war in Germany and Japan,\nand we knew about the Nazis, and we did not, we were not aware as children.\n\nKREMER: When did you become aware?\n\nASHER: I would say after the war, after the war was over as . . .\n\nKREMER: How old were you and how did you become aware?\n\nASHER: I would guess, I guess we were just, I was just turning into a teenager.\nI don't recall any incident, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7770.0,7800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just when I was reading, you know and after the war\nand the concentration camps were then uncovered publicly. . .\n\nKREMER: But . . .\n\nASHER: . . . that we were aware.\n\nKREMER: ... I remember in my Sunday School [they were] showing movies of\nconcentration camps as a child, which was pretty horrifying . . .\n\nASHER: Yeah.\n\nKREMER: . . . way to find out. Did they do anything like that here?\n\nASHER: If they did, I'm . . .\n\nKREMER: Yeah.\n\nASHER: . . . I was not familiar with that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7800.0,7830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Our Sunday School was something, you\nknow, that we were not really that attentive. I wasn't, anyway. I don't know\nthat many other kids were, they might have been.\n\nKREMER: You went from what age to what age?\n\nASHER: I was there from kindergarten through tenth grade. I was confirmed in the\nclass of 1950 at The Temple, but 1 must admit that I didn't come away with any\nsense of Judaism and . . .\n\nKREMER: Well, what did you do there every week?\n\nASHER: We kind of just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7830.0,7860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"messed around. We went to class, but we didn't, we didn't\nlearn much.\n\nKREMER: Who were your teachers? I mean, were they lay people or . . . ?\n\nASHER: They were all lay people.\n\nKREMER: . . . the Rabbis?\n\nASHER: They [Rabbis] were lay people, they were mostly, I think they were mostly\njust housewives, housewives or you know, that wanted to do that. I don't think\nthat there were any like professional. I don't know that there were any\nprofessional ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7860.0,7890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"teachers at that time.\n\nKREMER: You don't remember any curriculum or anything?\n\nASHER: Not really. Not from my era, no.\n\nKREMER: Did you notice there was a big change about the time your children went?\n\nASHER: Oh, a huge change, very dramatic change. It was, you know, now a\nreligious school with a curriculum with teachers that really knew the\nprogramming. I think that my kids got a lot more out of it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7890.0,7920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than I did. Plus, the\ntimes have changed as well, I think. The times were different when I was growing\nup in Atlanta than when my kids were growing up. So that a Jewish education was\nreally something that you looked forward to in my children's generation and our,\nmy generation, at least in the crowd that I was with, it was not important at all.\n\nKREMER: Do you remember your crowd ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7920.0,7950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"saying anything, or even your parent's views\nof Israel or the founding of Israel?\n\nASHER: No, not really.\n\nKREMER: Your parents never . . .\n\nASHER: They . . .\n\nKREMER: . . . they weren't, they didn't know anything about Zionism or talk\nabout it?\n\nASHER: . . . well, they didn't talk about it. They probably knew about\nit, sure, but I don't think that; ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=7950.0,7980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm pretty sure that they were anti-Zionists\nrather than pro-Zionists. They didn't talk about it much. I don't think they\nwere supportive of the, they were not supporters of Zionism.\n\nKREMER: Were they aware of any movements here in Atlanta or they just . . . ?\n\nASHER: Not to my knowledge.\n\nKREMER: What about your generation? 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I know she went once, maybe twice.\nI don't remember the group that she went with, but it could have had to do with\nCouncil, I'm not positive. My awareness really has been within the last nine\nyears. We didn't have, earlier than that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=8010.0,8040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there were very few bar mitzvahs. There\nwere very few services that we attended, but since then, I've been very much\nmore alert and attentive. I've even participated in various ceremonies like you\nknow marriages and other things.\n\nKREMER: Well, wasn't it an adjustment? I mean, here you came from your\nbackground and Millie was raised . . .\n\nASHER: She was raised Orthodox.\n\nKREMER: . . . 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The first thing I did was at her urging was that we should both take a\ncourse from the Florence Melton course here sponsored by the JCC but given right\nhere at [the Jewish] Federation. So, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=8070.0,8100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for two years, we went to a course that was\noutstanding and I learned a great deal about Judaism in those two years. All of\nit was new to me, and I highly recommend the Florence Melton course to anyone as\nan introduction to Judaism at any age. Millie went on for seven full years in\nthat particular program and got a lot out of it and . . .\n\nKREMER: Why did you stop?\n\nASHER: I just didn't want to . . . I just felt fine with what I'd learned. I\ndidn't want to go ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=8100.0,8130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"forward with it.\n\nKREMER: So, you actually quote converted.\n\nASHER: Kind of, yes.\n\nKREMER: Yeah.\n\nASHER: You're right, you're right. We are, Millie and I are a mixed marriage and\nas a member of a mixed marriage I wanted to find out as much as I could about\nJudaism that I should have known but I never knew. I think I've learned a lot.\n\nKREMER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=8130.0,8160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you feel differently about being Jewish now as compared to say twenty\n\nyears ago?\n\nASHER: Differently well, in some ways. I mean in some ways I do feel like when I\nwas growing up, we were not outwardly but inwardly you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=8160.0,8190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know taught to just not\nspeak about Judaism. If somebody asks you what your religion is you of course\nalways say your Jewish, but that's the end of it. We didn't really know enough\nabout Judaism to discuss it, and so it was just another religion as far as I'm\nconcerned and as far as our family was concerned.\n\nKREMER: And you didn't run across any antisemitism you had said.\n\nASHER: No, I didn't.\n\nKREMER: What about more recently with the events in Israel?\n\nASHER: Well, I feel much more closely attached to being Jewish, and the\nimportance of a strong Israel. I think we have to do what we can to support\nIsrael and to make sure it stays strong and can defend itself. I'm very proud of\nIsrael and I became proud of Israel after visiting there ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=8190.0,8220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and learning a lot\nabout how they really did become a strong nation militarily as well as what I\nknow now today about them being a very strong economic nation, democratic\nnation. I'm very proud. I'm just proud to be Jewish and I think Israel makes me\nfeel proud to be Jewish.\n\nKREMER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=8220.0,8250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What was your first trip to Israel?\n\nASHER: 1998, the fiftieth anniversary of the state of Israel.\n\nKREMER: So that was through [the Jewish] Federation?\n\nASHER: Yes.\n\nKREMER: Okay, and what was your next one?\n\nASHER: 1998, the GA, was that 1998? The GA was in Israel, in Jerusalem. We went\nto the GA as well with . . .\n\nKREMER: That was the same year you went the first time on the fiftieth anniversary?\n\nASHER: I think it was, yes, one was in April, and one was in November.\n\nKREMER: Oh, okay.\n\nASHER: Then I went back for two weddings. Those were in 1993 and 1994 I believe roughly.\n\nKREMER: Oh, so you haven't been in over ten years. Oh, no.\n\nASHER: I'm sorry, I meant to say 2003 [and] 2004 . . .\n\nKREMER: Okay.\n\nASHER: . . . were the third and fourth times.\n\nKREMER: Those were family weddings?\n\nASHER: Those were family and friends, yes. The most recent was the marriage of\nMillie's niece from her first marriage. We also went to the marriage of the\nVice-Council here in Atlanta from the State of Israel, Aviv Ezrah and his bride\nEnot [sp] Harrell [sp], who were stationed here and who we became very close\nfriends of. They are now going back to get another post.\n\nKREMER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=8250.0,8280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, Millie's involved in [the Jewish] Federation here and . . . ?\n\nASHER: She is, she is involved, she's very Jewishly oriented and very involved\nand very proud that, and I've learned a lot from her.\n\nKREMER: Well, it's good she converted you.\n\nASHER: Right, right.\n\nKREMER: That was good, she brought someone into the fold.\n\nASHER: Right.\n\nKREMER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=8280.0,8310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/transcript/38875/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, okay let's look at what else. Well Norman, I have to tell you I've\nthoroughly enjoyed this interview. You're a great subject because you have\nwonderful stories to tell, and I reserve the right to come get you again if I\nthink of something we've missed.\n\nASHER: Well, thank-you very much Ray Ann, I enjoyed doing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=8310.0,8340.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/annotation_set/778","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Norman Asher [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/annotation_set/778/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eGerman Jews began to come to the United States in large numbers in the 1840’s due to persecution, restrictive laws, and economic hardship. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/annotation_set/778/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eLeo Max Frank (1884-1915) was a Jewish factory superintendent in Atlanta, Georgia. In 1913, he was accused of raping and murdering one of his employees, a 13-year-old girl named Mary Phagan, whose body was found on the premises of the National Pencil Company. Frank was arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced to death for her murder. The trial was the catalyst for a great outburst of antisemitism led by the populist Tom Watson and the center of powerful class and political interests. Frank was sent to Milledgeville State Penitentiary to await his execution. Governor John M. Slaton, believing there had been a miscarriage of justice, commuted Frank’s sentence to life in prison. This enraged a group of men who styled themselves the “Knights of Mary Phagan.” They drove to the prison, kidnapped Frank from his cell and drove him to Marietta, Georgia where they lynched him. Many years later, the murderer was revealed to be Jim Conley, who had lied in the trial, pinning it on Frank instead. 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It involved more countries, cost more money, involved more people, and killed more people than any other war in history. Between 50 to 85 million people died. The majority were civilians. It included massacres, the deliberate genocide of the Holocaust, strategic bombing, starvation, disease, and the only use of nuclear weapons against civilians in history.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/annotation_set/778/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Georgia Institute of Technology is a public research university and institute of technology in Atlanta, Georgia established in 1885. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/annotation_set/778/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Temple, or “Hebrew Benevolent Congregation,” is Atlanta’s oldest Jewish congregation. The cornerstone was laid on the Temple on Garnett Street in 1875. The dedication was held in 1877 and the Temple was located there until 1902. The Temple’s next location on Pryor Street was dedicated in 1902. The Temple’s current location in Midtown on Peachtree Street was dedicated in 1931. The main sanctuary is on the National Register of Historic Places. The Reform congregation now totals approximately 1500 families. As of 2022, its Senior Rabbi is Peter S. Berg.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/annotation_set/778/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Standard Club is a Jewish social club that started as the “Concordia Association” in 1867 in Downtown Atlanta. In 1905, it was reorganized as the “Standard Club” and moved into the former mansion of William C. Sanders near the site of Center Parc Credit Union Stadium (formerly Turner Field). In the late 1920s the club moved to Ponce de Leon Avenue in Midtown Atlanta. Later, the club moved to what is now the Lenox Park business park and was located there until 1983. In the 1980s, the club moved to its present location in Johns Creek in Atlanta’s northern suburbs.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/annotation_set/778/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eSabbath school are purposed as Jewish religious school sessions for children. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/75880/file/162086/annotation_set/778/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRacial segregation is the systematic separation of people into racial or ethnic groups in daily life. 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