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No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Livia Ungar Greeson (personal name)","Jozsef Ungar (personal name)","Ethel Ungar (personal name)","Ferenc Szalasi (personal name)","Dr. Josef Mengele (personal name)","Adolf Hitler (personal name)","United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration (UNRRA) (corporate name)","International Committee of the Red Cross (corporate name)","Fuzesabony, Hungary (geographic term)","Miskolc, Hungary (geographic term)","Fulda, Germany (geographic term)","Frankfurt, Germany (geographic term)","Krakow, Poland (geographic term)","New York, United States of America (geographic term)","Atlanta, Georgia (geographic term)","Hungary (geographic term)","Germany (geographic term)","Israel (geographic term)","Canada (geographic term)","United States of America (geographic term)","Auschwitz-Birkenau Concentration Camp (geographic term)","Bergen-Belsen Concentration Camp (geographic term)","Krakow-Plaszow Concentration Camp (geographic term)","Concentration Camps (topical term)","Displaced Persons Camp (DP Camp) (topical term)","Ghetto (topical term)","Holocaust (topical term)","Holocaust Survivors (topical term)","Holocaust Experiences (topical term)","Cattle Cars (topical term)","Crematorium (topical term)","Gas Chambers (topical term)","Selection (topical term)","Electric Wires (topical term)","Liberation (topical term)","Jewish Restrictions (topical term)","Arrow Cross (topical term)","Anti-Semitism (topical term)","Judaism (topical term)","Christianity (topical term)","World War II (topical term)","War Experiences (topical term)","German War Reparations (topical term)","Affidavit of Support and Sponsorship (topical term)","Hungarian Revolution of 1956 (topical term)","Food Scarcity (topical term)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eLivia Ungar Greeson was interviewed by John Kent and Ruth Einstein on December 8, 2003 in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eIn this interview, Livia Ungar Gleeson will share her life experience prior World War II, growing up in Miskolc, the second largest city in Hungary and the difficulties living under anti-Jewish laws the Hungarian government imposed on the Jewish population.  She will talk about her time in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp with her mother, the constant lack of food and how she and others around her managed to survive the Holocaust.  She will share her experience when she first arrived in the United States two days after Thanksgiving and how she adjusted to a new life in America.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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It used to be Livia Ungar and that's\nreal Hungarian.\n\nKENT: Where and when were you born?\n\nGREESON: I was born in Fuzesabony in 1930, January 25.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KENT: Who were the people in your family?\n\nGREESON: Well, there were quite a few people, but I guess none of them survived.\nI don't pay much attention to it right now. I think we lost about 80 or 85\npeople. There were some who stayed alive. I still have one cousin in Canada, but\nhe is in very bad shape. 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He was two years younger than I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was. I was left\nalone and my mother spoiled the hell out of me.\n\nKENT: Well, talk about your . . .\n\nGREESON: He was terribly . . .\n\nKENT: Your parents' names?\n\nGREESON: Her name was Ethel and my father's name was, in Hungarian, Jozsef.\nThat's about it. Otherwise, you know, I had aunts ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and uncles. Both sides . . .\nthe girls had the same names on each side. That's very funny to me and it's . .\n. anyway, that . . .\n\nKENT: Can you describe your parents as you remember them? What were they like?\n\nGREESON: They were very nice people, as far as I could tell. Actually, I really\nadored my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"father. My mother was very good, a good person. I think she kept me\nalive, except that she didn't make it all the way. She died four days before our\nliberation in Bergen-Belsen. We lived in Miskolc most of my life. They were\nhaving trouble with the . . . what do you call ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it? The Jewish regulations and\nthings like that. They had a restaurant with liquor license and tobacco and they\nlost it during the thirties. Then we moved to Miskolc.\n\nKENT: What are your memories from the thirties, when you were still a child?\n\nGREESON: Not very much, except, I was a kid and liked to play. 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As I said we were\nfairly poor, but there was a roof over our ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"heads. My mother always made sure we\nhad something to eat. I never went hungry. She used to beg me to eat because I\ndidn't like everything. I still don't. But now I don't have to be begged to eat.\nI wish I could eat more than what I can, but . . . I also have some pictures.\n\nKENT: Yes, we'll look at those too, soon.\n\nGREESON: Don't let me forget it, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because I put them aside. What else can I say?\n\nKENT: To what extent was your family Jewish in culture or religion or any other way?\n\nGREESON: They were religious and kept kosher foods only. We went to the\nsynagogue every Saturday morning and my mother had to drag me. I couldn't get\naway from her. 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I had one lousy doll that I remember, and it was made out of sawdust,\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"filling. I gave it a bath, and that was the end of my doll. But I would go\nto friends' house, and if they had dolls, we would play together. That was nice.\n\nKENT: Can you describe yourself some more, what kind of a person you were?\n\nGREESON: I didn't like school. Why? I don't know. 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You couldn't play hooky, or else that\nwas a problem.\n\nKENT: What is your memory of how Jewish and non-Jewish people got along in those days?\n\nGREESON: We didn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because when we went to school, we had to walk to school.\nRain or shine, snow, it didn't matter-we walked to school. Then the other\nChristian kids-if you can call them Christians because they were bad-they used\nto try to beat us up constantly. They knew we were Jewish because we would go to\nschool on Sunday and they didn't. 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My\ngirlfriend lived one way and I lived the other way, after a few minutes of\nrunning. I don't even know what happened to her at that particular time. I got\nhome OK without him coming closer to me . . . well, what kind of crazy man was\nthat? I don't know. I must have been ten or eleven years old, if that much. I\ndidn't know much about that, except we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"knew it was something dirty. I didn't\nmention that to anyone, really, because it wasn't nice. It was already dark\noutside, you couldn't see much anyway. I don't know what he was trying to prove.\nWhy was he chasing us? I guess we outran him, because we could run faster, than\nhe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did.\n\nKENT: How did you handle it, when people attacked you as Jewish?\n\nGREESON: I don't remember. It was mostly the kids . . . grownups didn't bother.\nI don't remember doing anything about it, except either run away or get the\nother kids to gang up on each other.\n\nKENT: Did anybody ever explain to you what that was about?\n\nGREESON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, it came automatically, knowing . . . that if they were not Jewish,\nthere was something different about them. They didn't like us. Their favorite\nwas \"Dirty Jew\" and a few other names, I don't remember exactly. 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Szalasi, right?\n\nKENT: Szalasi?\n\nGREESON: Yes, Szalasi, that's . . .\n\nKENT: Arrow Cross.\n\nGREESON: The Arrow Cross, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right? He didn't do anything to us, because they were\nfriends. Why? I don't know. Why were they friends if they disagreed about life\nand politics so much? I guess that happens occasionally. Otherwise . . . the\nonly fun I had was with friends-girlfriends. My mother was busy, my father ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was\nbusy. The little time I could spend with them, it was what I would call \"quality\ntime,\" because I could sit on my father's lap and hug him and cuddle up with\nhim. It was . . . those are the good memories of him, I miss him so bad, I can't\nquite explain it. 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That part I do remember.\nWe stopped going to school, because they took over the school for the German\nsoldiers. In a way, I guess I was glad . . . no more school, you know. That was\nthe eighth year of my schooling, what they call \"Polgari.\" It was number four.\nThat's as ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"far as I went with school. I never went back here to any schools. I\nlearned English on my own, more or less, except asking people, \"How do you say\nthis or that?\" But I never went to school again because I was afraid of it. 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I don't know.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She was afraid of where they were going to send her-probably the chimneys, which\nwe found out after a while what those smokestacks were. It wasn't just cooking\nor anything like that.\n\nKENT: What did some of the other inmates tell you all?\n\nGREESON: The only thing that . . .\n\nKENT: What did you hear for a while?\n\nGREESON: The only thing that . . . 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Do you know, if somebody would say this to me now, I would have a\ncomplete breakdown just listening to it . . . at that time it was like part of\nnature or part of my life, but I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"understand they also fed us some calming drugs\nin the food. I don't know if everybody knows about it or remembers it going back\nin time, but none of us were concerned about anything.\n\nKENT: How did you hear that there were drugs?\n\nGREESON: I heard about it later, after the war, I believe. 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It was like everything seemed to be OK or this is how it should be or\nwhatever it was, but I know it wasn't.\n\nKENT: Back up just a little . . . what do you remember about the train ride of\nthose two days?\n\nGREESON: As I said there were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"200 people and all we could do was, sit on the\nfloor. They didn't feed us. I don't remember. They would bring a pail of water\nand a bucket of water, and . . . you try and sleep by sitting there like that,\nwith everybody taking a little space. 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She was hot stuff because . . . when I was in Krakow, we\nwere building a road from the stone quarry that was there. They would blast\nstones or whatever you call them, and people had to carry those ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"big rocks and\nthen smaller ones and so forth and would place them along the road we were\nbuilding. There were German soldiers in the barracks which were right around\nthere. 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I\nwould never come out-that's how I felt.\n\nKENT: Do you remember any particular people, other inmates there who you were\nclose to?\n\nGREESON: No. That was kind of bad because in Bergen-Belsen, where we were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"last,\nI had a cousin there and my mother's cousin. They were close in age, not like .\n. . I was younger. They were like . . . a couple of barracks away. We could walk\naround in Bergen-Belsen, they didn't give a damn about us. 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The only one, who was close to me, was my mother and when I\nlost her, there was nobody. To this day, I wonder, \"Why was it that nobody\ncared?\" At that time I was 15 years old and I was real kid. I wasn't a grown\nwoman or anything. Not one person said, \"Come here, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"honey, give me a hug.\" Or\n\"Are you, OK?\" Or \"How do you feel?\" Nothing. Not one thing that would have been\na concern for another person. I still remember that and I am still angry about\nit. What kind of people were we around. We were surrounded ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by the enemy plus\nthese people who didn't give a damn.\n\nKENT: What was an average day like for you?\n\nGREESON: I don't remember too much about it because, for a while we were working\nand it was: Get up early, have this so-called coffee for breakfast-ersatz\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coffee. Then they would march us to where we were going to work, like by the\nriver Vistula, and shoveled dirt into the river. As I said some time ago, that\nriver is still running. We didn't stop it from running. I have no idea why we\nwere doing it. That only ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"lasted so long, then, we worked in another place that\nwas indoors. You take cellophane strings and you braid them . . . I don't know\nwhat it's called. It was another lousy job that didn't make sense. But for some\nreason, I think it had to do ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with a fuselage for bombs and stuff. I'm not\npositive, you know. This was explained to me later on, I have no idea what it\nwas. In Bergen-Belsen, I didn't do any work. I don't remember doing anything,\nexcept maybe sweep or something like that.\n\nKENT: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What do you remember about how the women related to each other in\nday-to-day life?\n\nGREESON: As I said, they didn't give a damn. That was it. I don't remember\nanyone being friendly towards each other. We slept on the floor because it was\nvery crowded at one time in the beginning. 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Somebody was on top of my legs, so I just pushed her away.\nSlowly but surely people were dying, and there was plenty of room.\n\nKENT: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How did that affect you to encounter death like that?\n\nGREESON: It was like . . . I don't want to look at another dead person. Now it\nbothers me, if I see someone in a funeral home or something. All I think about\nis, that, that person I saw a couple of weeks ago. 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But, they didn't gas them; they just\nburned the bodies.\n\nKENT: Do you remember what it smelled like there and what the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sounds were like?\n\nGREESON: The smell was pretty bad . . . like dead bodies, you know. Of course,\nat first, we didn't know what it was, but we learned quickly that it was the\nbodies burning, that awful smell. 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While in Auschwitz, I called it Auschwitz . . . it is\nBirkenau . . . on the next block or next camp, which was separated with\nelectrified wires, you could see people on the other side of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wires. I saw my\ngirlfriend, my very best girlfriend. Of course, we started to talk through the\nfence. Then I would see her again the next day and we talked. Then all of a\nsudden she wasn't there, when I went out to look for her. 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I guess in English it's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Felicia. She was 14 years old.\n\nKENT: What are some of the other memories of that time in the camp?\n\nGREESON: I saw one girl hanging on the wire. She was dead. That was one way of\ncommitting suicide. I don't think it was accidental. 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You could talk to each other . . .\nwhoever understood what they were saying.\n\nKENT: Did you ever get information of what else was going on in the camp, or in\nother parts of it?\n\nGREESON: I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think we learned about the twins or multi-birth children who were\nseparated. They were treated differently. But I don't think we heard how bad\nthey were treated, just that they were treated separated or special. That was\nall Dr. Mengele's business. I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had twin cousins who were there. They were grown\nwomen. We met them because we also worked in what they called the Canada\nbarrack. Did you hear about that? With all the clothes-we were selecting the\nclothes. They were there. They were working ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there, so they had a fairly good\nposition there at the time. They gave us some food, like bread and marmalade. I\ndon't remember what else. They survived the war and went back to Hungary. Since\nthen, both of them passed away. Knowing about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something like the twins, I had no\nidea what was going on, really, except they were treated differently. How good\nor bad, nobody knew. It was a big secret. If, it wasn't, not everybody found out\nabout it. On December ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"31st, they had us lined up and marched us to the barrack-I\nmeant to the trains-and we went to Bergen-Belsen. In the meantime, during the\nsummer we went to Krakow, which was a fairly good place compared to the other\ntwo, because that was a working plant . . . camp. I also ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remember the Polish\npeople standing around on the street on the sidewalks as we went by. We had\nguards all around us with dogs, their lovely German dogs. They were like, \"Hey,\nisn't this wonderful\" kind of attitude, that we were prisoners and they were\nnot. They should have shot all of them. Line them ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up, as far as I was concerned.\nI still don't like them. I guess I never will. It seemed like they were making\nfun of us, and glad to see that we were prisoners. That's what we were.\n\nKENT: In Krakow, was that a camp or a factory or what kind of . . . ?\n\nGREESON: It was a camp where the stone quarries ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were.\n\nKENT: Did it have a name?\n\nGREESON: Not that I know of . . . only Krakow. The treatment was better there\nbecause we had, the barracks were nice and clean. They had beds and the food\nwasn't so bad. We didn't stay there long enough to enjoy it. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4110.0,4140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember her son being in my house. He stayed with us\nfor a certain time because she lived in a different town. She wasn't willing to\ndo anything for me, knowing that I was by myself. I was in no shape to fend for\nmyself too much. I can't get over that. 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I don't\nknow what happened to him.\n\nKENT: How did it affect you when you knew she was gone?\n\nGREESON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4230.0,4260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was devastated to be left alone, nobody to protect me or help me in\nany way. Maybe that's why I'm so independent now . . . that when I needed\nsomebody to help me, there was nobody around. Better do for myself or else. I\ndon't know. I'm not a very good philosopher, you know. 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I feel like she didn't finish her job as a\nmother and he didn't finish his job either, as a father.\n\nKENT: What was it like when you knew that the war had ended, when the English\nhad come in?\n\nGREESON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4290.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I guess all we knew was, \"Now we are free,\" but not knowing that the\nwhole world stopped having the war, or rather at least half . . . Europe. I\nguess it just didn't mean anything except, \"Now I am free.\" If some people kept\ntalking about going back home . . . 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They took me to a house where\nthey were staying ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4470.0,4500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that used to be German-owned, and it was the English--no, the\nAmerican Zone, which was much nicer. The American soldiers were the opposite of\nthe English, them being cold-blooded people. I hope neither of . . . well I know\nyou're not English. You're not? Good. 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Don't do that.\" After a while ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4530.0,4560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you\ngo crazy. All these five women tried to tell me what to do. They wouldn't let me\ngo back home. Some of them went back, but not me. \"You can't go. You're too\nyoung, you are too this and that.\" So, I never went back. Later I just didn't,\nand now it costs too much. 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They wrote to an aunt who lived here in New York, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4590.0,4620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I am alive and\nwhere I was. I didn't know anything about it, because I knew there was somebody\nhere, but I paid no attention who she was or where she lived. All of a sudden,\nwhile I'm in this kibbutz, where, I was doing pretty good; and I had gained\nweight and I looked kind of chubby by then, and I was having fun. 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I can't remember the town's name either.\n\nKENT: Do you remember who organized it with anybody?\n\nGREESON: I don't know. It had to go through all the . . . some Jewish\norganizations . . . like UNRRA or another kind. I don't know.\n\nKENT: About how long did that period last?\n\nGREESON: I was there for a few months. It ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4740.0,4770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was summertime. Before you knew it, I\nwasn't there and was getting cold. I must have been there for a few months. I\nremember when I was by myself, again. I went to the hospital to have my tonsils\nout. I decided I need to get my tonsils out. 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I had to get pictures ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4860.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for . . . what do they have, passport or\nwhatever. Then, I didn't have money for something that had to do with all those\npapers. I had to go to Frankfurt to get things done, to the American Consulate.\nWell, because I didn't have the money to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4890.0,4920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"get something . . . I don't know\nwhether it was the pictures or something . . . three months elapsed. I had to\nstart all over again. That's why I didn't get here until November, end of November.\n\nKENT: Of 1945?\n\nGREESON: No, 1947.\n\nKENT: Were you in a DP camp?\n\nGREESON: Yes.\n\nKENT: What was the name of it?\n\nGREESON: I don't know. I know one of them was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4920.0,4950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Butbach, or is that the other way\naround? I know that, that particular camp where we eventually went to the ship,\nthe Bremerhaven, but that wasn't Butbach. Butbach must have been the kibbutz. I\ndon't remember. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4950.0,4980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's funny how . . . names I'm no good at. I must have\nforgotten. I have a picture where a couple of my friends were with me over\nthere, but I don't know what, was the name of it.\n\nKENT: So, you were in Germany for about two-and-a-half years before you left.\n\nGREESON: Yes. I also learned German while I was there, but forgot it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4980.0,5010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"now. I\ndon't practice it.\n\nKENT: But the kibbutz was, you said, several months.\n\nGREESON: Yes.\n\nKENT: So, the other approximately two years, what was your situation?\n\nGREESON: Well, let's see. I was in the kibbutz for a few months. Then I lived in\nFulda by myself for a while . . . 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We came on the same ship ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5070.0,5100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"finally. Hallelujah.\n\nKENT: How much interaction did you have with the local Germans during those two years?\n\nGREESON: Not much. In Fulda, I remember, I don't know how I met those people.\nThere was a lady and I think she had two daughters, grownups. They would invite\nme to have dinner with them. As to how did we get along, I don't understand . .\n. 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Maybe I was too dumb\nto know what was happening, but these were grownup people who knew what was\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5190.0,5220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"happening, but they denied that afterwards.\n\nKENT: Was there any anger in you or desire for revenge . . . something like that?\n\nGREESON: No. I was angry, and I'm still angry, but I can't do anything about it,\nlike . . . once somebody told me to go back to Germany and kill someone, just\nfor the heck of it. I said, \"I'm ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5220.0,5250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not going to jail for that one, no way!\" He\nfelt it would give me some satisfaction, after what they had done, that I would\nkill someone. No, I can't do that. 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They would . . . were able to get some people on the ship\nand trucks and whatever to a certain point, and then take the ships into Israel.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5280.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at that time, I didn't care one way or another. In a way, I was willing to\ngo there because somebody said, \"You can go.\" There was also a program where\nthey were sending youngsters to England as orphans. Well, I missed out on that\none, too, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5310.0,5340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because I think there was only one transport that left and I wasn't on\nthat. Then the Jewish people didn't want that done. Actually Israel . . . didn't\nwant Jewish children in England after what they were going through with the\nEnglish people. So, I didn't go and that's how I happened to come to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the United\nStates. I remember one time telling my mother, \"Let's go to America,\" just like\nthat, you know. Why I said it, I have no idea. I must have seen something in the\nmovies or people talk about it. She says, \"No, we can't go.\" I don't remember.\nShe said, \"No.\" I wish we had at the time, because we could have all been saved ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5370.0,5400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there.\n\nKENT: What kind of effort did you make to see if your father was still around there?\n\nGREESON: I have been in touch with the Red Cross. I even had an interview in the\nnewspaper, the Atlanta paper.\n\nKENT: I meant at the time, like 1945 and 1946, before you left Europe.\n\nGREESON: Well, I kept asking everybody, and as I said, there were lists of each\ncamp. 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They said that my father was with them while they were\nin ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5430.0,5460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hungary and they were in hiding. One day he decided that they should go\nwithout him because he was coughing, and he was afraid that they were going to\nbe caught. So, they left him and we haven't heard from him since. Nobody did. I\nhave no idea what happened to him. And . . . 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I don't know how he can stay alive.\n\nKENT: What was it like when you first got to New ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5490.0,5520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"York?\n\nGREESON: My aunt was waiting for me and I went to a children's home, like an\norphanage. I guess it was for survivor kids. Some were eighteen and under and\nthe ones that were over, they lied about their age, so they could come here\nwithout any trouble as ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5520.0,5550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"orphans. She was waiting for me there. I remember her\nbringing some bananas for me. You know, I never had bananas before. After one\nbite, I threw it away! I didn't like it . . . I thought it tasted funny. But,\nsince then I got to like it. She was a very nice lady. She was more like a\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5550.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mother. She had a daughter, who was my age and we still keep in touch and we get\nalong real nice. It was a good relationship and she passed away quite a few\nyears ago. Her husband died before she did, and he wasn't as nice. I can't like\nhim, even though he is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5580.0,5610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dead, you know. I went to his funeral, but that's it. He\nheard stupid stories about survivors and he spread them. He told it to his wife,\nmy aunt and I heard about it from her.\n\nKENT: What stories?\n\nGREESON: That ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5610.0,5640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the girls were putting out for fifty cents. Can you picture us\nbeing that stupid, for fifty cents? I told my aunt there is no way I believe\nthat. If anybody had done anything like that . . . had to be for a good reason,\nbecause we were all hungry, homeless. 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Anyway, after a while\nthey gave a $2.00 raise. I was getting rich, you know. I didn't know how to\nhandle money, either. I would spend it on anything that I felt like. Save it?\nWho knows such a thing? I was never good at saving money, but then I was really\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=5760.0,5790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bad at it. So I didn't. I would just spend it wherever I felt like. If I didn't\nfeel like going to work, I didn't. The six hours difference was really\nsomething. I would get into the subway and hold onto the strap and I would fall\nasleep standing up. 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I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=6240.0,6270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have one\nfriend who lives in New York State. I went to school with her and I found her. I\nhave talked to her on the phone a few times and write a letter occasionally. She\nwants me to become Jewish again and I don't want to. Not in the sense of . . .\nshe wanted me to go ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=6270.0,6300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to a Passover dinner. She was going to pay for it. I said,\n\"No way.\" Wherever it was, it wasn't around here. You know I don't like to\ntravel out of Cobb County. So, I said, \"Please don't do that because I'm not\ngoing.\" You know, it's hard for somebody to understand what I am really feeling\nor ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=6300.0,6330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"even saying sometimes. I'm bad, really bad. I don't mean to hurt anybody's\nfeelings with it, but . . . when you need help and you don't get it, forget the\nwhole thing, right?\n\nKENT: So, you mean even much after the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=6330.0,6360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"war, even in the 1970's, 1980\"s and\n1990's, how much did you associate with survivors?\n\nGREESON: None.\n\nKENT: Even then?\n\nGREESON: Well, for one thing, the few people who I knew were in New York. I\nmoved out of New York in 1971. Since then, it was just . . . 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It was strange because we found a job right away, it\nwas ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=6510.0,6540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"OK. After that, I felt kind of lonely for people in New York when . . . then\nmy daughter still lived up there, my son was somewhere else; he was traveling.\n\nKENT: Did he come with you?\n\nGREESON: Uh-uh, no. He was too old for that. But anyway . . . 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So, that, it will not confuse anyone and it will not bother me\nthat somebody might think, \"Oh, she's not so nice.\" But I don't cheat anyone or\ntrying to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=6630.0,6660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hurt anyone. I haven't done any crime in my life, I just try to make\nthe best of what I have, and it isn't much. As you can see, this place isn't massive.\n\nKENT: How did you go about figuring out how to be a mother since your own\nchildhood was interrupted?\n\nGREESON: I don't know. 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Never mind to have somebody do things for you or\nyou do things for them, but a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=6720.0,6750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"good friend. There's no such a thing that you\nlearn it the right way or any way. You can't go to school and say, \"I'm taking a\nfriendship course.\" Some people are not good at friends. They're good at taking\nbut not giving. I know some people like that. That's OK, because they're going\nto get what they deserve, eventually. 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How much was your husband able to understand and\nbe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=6780.0,6810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"supportive about your background?\n\nGREESON: In a sense, like, he didn't agree with this situation, as far as Jewish\npeople and Christians, and they shouldn't hurt each other, or especially the\nother way. That's why . . . he's the one who told me, one time to go to Germany\nand kill a man. 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One of the question, was \"How do you feel about your ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=6870.0,6900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"husband?\" I said,\n\"I'm so glad he's my ex.\" Every time I think of him, I get mad. Because right\nnow I really need help and I can't ask him, because if I called him, he would\nprobably hang up on me and not listen at all. So, I don't want to call. 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You ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=6990.0,7020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"can't lead his life completely. The kid is a kid and he\nneeds to learn the difference between a grownup and a kid. He's not only\nlistening to grownup conversation-he butts in. I can't stand it! I want to punch\nhim out. But, this better not be on the tape because if they see it, ah! 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=7230.0,7260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I\nforgot all the things that he has done. I know that my son is trying to do\nthings for him that he didn't have, which is a natural thing that both mothers\nand fathers will try to do things for their children. That's fine and good. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=7260.0,7290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But\nif you do too much, it's going to backfire on him eventually. I have to let it\ngo, if that's the way he feels. He has his hair . . . on the top of his head,\nred. I couldn't think of anything uglier.\n\nKENT: How much did you tell your kids about your life as they were growing up?\n\nGREESON: Not much. 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That gives you a\nlittle relief even if nobody says, \"Oh, I'll help.\" I don't want to go to a\npsychiatrist . . . it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=7560.0,7590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"costs too much.\n\nKENT: Alcohol is cheaper.\n\nGREESON: I don't drink. Do you?\n\nKENT: Very, very little.\n\nGREESON: I don't drink especially since I have diabetes and you're not supposed\nto have alcohol. But I gave that up very easy. 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You think you got some\nrelief, but you don't, because the trouble stays with you and your feelings and\nall that.\n\nKENT: What would you want your kids to understand about you that they don't\nunderstand well enough?\n\nGREESON: I guess . . .\n\nKENT: Or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=7650.0,7680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"somehow convey it to them?\n\nGREESON: They can't see this tape.\n\nKENT: Well, they might.\n\nGREESON: They saw the other tape that I have, but . . . I don't really know. 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Plus the\nother ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=7860.0,7890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things, the ambulance's cost $100.00 because the insurance paid part of\nit, which is pretty expensive. They were all so nice to me because I do whatever\nthey say to do or not to do. I behaved myself and I'm OK. But if I'm not sick,\ngosh! 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Remember, you didn't fix it.\" Isn't that\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=8400.0,8430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right? That's the answer he's going to get.\n\nKENT: Can you think of anything else you'd like to add to this tape?\n\nGREESON: Yes. I wish we were all happy and whatever. I know that some people are\nable to forget and that must be good for them. I can't forget. 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I feel that way . . . or I'm angry. But how do you get\nrid of it?\n\nKENT: Talk about these things some more. This is just an interview.\n\nGREESON: What are you going to do with the tapes or tape?\n\nEINSTEIN: Let me just say, thank you first and we can . . . thank ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=8520.0,8550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/transcript/23884/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you.\n\nKENT: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=8550.0,8580.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/annotation_set/386","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Annotations [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/annotation_set/386/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBergen-Belsen was a concentration camp near Hanover in northwest Germany, located between the villages of Bergen and Belsen. In July 1944, the SS established a \"Hungarian camp\" in Bergen-Belsen for more than 1,600 Hungarian Jews, whom Heinrich Himmler (SS chief and Chief of the German Police) planned to exchange for money and goods. These prisoners did not wear camp uniforms, but were marked by a Star of David on their clothing. These prisoners were not assigned to labor detachments. Between August and December of 1944, these 1,600 Hungarian Jews were sent to Switzerland in return for cash payment. Shortly thereafter, in December 1944, 4,200 more Hungarian Jews arrived in the \"Hungarian camp\" in Bergen-Belsen, and would remain there until their \"evacuation\" in early April 1945.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/annotation_set/386/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eMiskolc had a Jewish community of about 10,000 when the Germans occupied Hungary in March 1944..   The Jews were confined in a sealed ghetto in April 1944.  Others were kept separately at a local brick factory on Tatar Street.  On June 15, 1944, all the Jews of Miskolc were deported on June 13 and 15, 1944 to Auschwitz-Birkenau from the brick factory site.  While they waited at the brick factory, they were starved, had 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is where the Germans took all the clothing and personal possessions of the Jews they murdered.  They were sorted by the prisoners.  The best was sent back to Germany and the rest used to clothe the prisoners.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/annotation_set/386/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003ePlaszow was the main detention center for Jewish forced labor in the Krakow district.  The camp was established in July 1942.   Most of its inmates were Jews from the Krakow ghetto.  This was the camp featured in \u003cem\u003eSchindler’s List\u003c/em\u003e commanded by Amon Göth.  The camp was also a place of mass murder.  Jews were brought there from the area, shot and buried in mass graves.  In 1944 it was transformed into a concentration camp.   The camp was evacuated in August 1944 with 8,000 inmates being sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau, Mauthausen and Stutthof concentration camps.  On January 1, 1944 there were only about 700 inmates left.  It was liberated on January 17, 1944.  Amon Göth was the commandant of Plaszow during its concentration camp phase.   He was a cruel, brutal, conscienceless sadist who murdered at random.  He terrified all of the inmates whenever he roamed the camp on his white horse in the company of his dogs, who killed people on his command. After the war, the Supreme National Tribunal of Poland at Krakow found Göth guilty of murdering tens of thousands of Jews. 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which she embarked.  It was one of the major ports that refugees left for the United States after the war.  I don’t know if the name was also attached to an actual ship.  Most of them were American ships that were converted from troop and military ships into passenger ships after the war and they wouldn’t have the name “Bremerhaven.”\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290#t=4950.0,4980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/38973/file/110290/annotation_set/386/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Hungarian Revolution of 1956 was a spontaneous nationwide revolt against the government of the People’s Republic of Hungary and its Soviet-imposed policies.  It lasted from October 23 until November 10, 1956.  It started as a student demonstration and then spread 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