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She was the only child of Israel Sametman (1909-1997), a shoemaker, and Pola Junkier Sametman (1913-1968), a pianist. When the Germans invaded and occupied western Poland in 1939, two-year-old Kristina and her parents fled to Soviet occupied eastern Poland. After a few months in Bialystok, Poland, the young family was sent east.\u003cbr\u003eKristina’s family spent the next five years on a collective farm in the Soviet Union. Her mother worked in the fields and her father made shoes for Russian officers. By the time she was seven, Kristina had adopted the Russian language and begun school. When the war ended in 1945, Kristina’s family again fled. With the help of an underground Jewish network, they traveled to Czechoslovakia and finally to the American occupied zone of Austria.\u003cbr\u003eThe Sametmans lived in the Ebelsberg DP camp in Linz, Austria and were soon reunited with one of Pola’s sisters and a nephew. While waiting for visas to immigrate, Israel taught shoemaking at an ORT school. Kristina learned Hebrew and relished the freedom to embrace her Jewish identity for the first time.\u003cbr\u003eOn November 13, 1950, Kristina and her parents arrived in the United States. Settling in New York City, Israel and Pola found jobs and Kristina continued her education. In 1957, Kristina married Charles Salutsky. Israel (who had now changed his name to George Sameth) and Pola moved to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Kristina and Charles moved to Somerset, Kentucky, where his family ran a store.\u003cbr\u003eKristina raised three children—a daughter and two sons—in Somerset. Every week, she drove the children to a synagogue in Lexington, Kentucky. After the children left for college, Kristina kept busy traveling to craft fairs, where she sold a variety of artwork she created. Finally, after 40 years in Somerset, she moved to Atlanta, Georgia, to be near her daughter, son-in-law and grandchildren.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eKristina relates what she knows about her first years of life and how her parents fled German occupied Poland when the war began. She recounts how her family was detained by the Soviets and sent east. Kristina recollects what she understood about the war and her family’s situation. She remembers attending school in the Soviet Union. Kristina shares her memories of the end of the war. She talks about reclaiming her Jewish identity while her family waited to immigrate. Kristina tells how her mother found a sister who survived. She describes the journey to the United States and arriving in New York City. Kristina remembers her early years in America. She introduces her husband and explains how she ended up in the South. Kristina discusses the challenges of raising her children to be Jewish in Kentucky. 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No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJohn Kent and Ruth Einstein interview Kristina Salutsky in Atlanta, Georgia on June 14, 2004.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eKristina Salutsky was born Krysia Sametman on October 31, 1937, in Warsaw, Poland. She was the only child of Israel Sametman (1909-1997), a shoemaker, and Pola Junkier Sametman (1913-1968), a pianist. When the Germans invaded and occupied western Poland in 1939, two-year-old Kristina and her parents fled to Soviet occupied eastern Poland. After a few months in Bialystok, Poland, the young family was sent east.\u003cbr /\u003eKristina\u0026rsquo;s family spent the next five years on a collective farm in the Soviet Union. Her mother worked in the fields and her father made shoes for Russian officers. By the time she was seven, Kristina had adopted the Russian language and begun school. When the war ended in 1945, Kristina\u0026rsquo;s family again fled. With the help of an underground Jewish network, they traveled to Czechoslovakia and finally to the American occupied zone of Austria.\u003cbr /\u003eThe Sametmans lived in the Ebelsberg DP camp in Linz, Austria and were soon reunited with one of Pola\u0026rsquo;s sisters and a nephew. While waiting for visas to immigrate, Israel taught shoemaking at an ORT school. Kristina learned Hebrew and relished the freedom to embrace her Jewish identity for the first time.\u003cbr /\u003eOn November 13, 1950, Kristina and her parents arrived in the United States. Settling in New York City, Israel and Pola found jobs and Kristina continued her education. In 1957, Kristina married Charles Salutsky. Israel (who had now changed his name to George Sameth) and Pola moved to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Kristina and Charles moved to Somerset, Kentucky, where his family ran a store.\u003cbr /\u003eKristina raised three children\u0026mdash;a daughter and two sons\u0026mdash;in Somerset. Every week, she drove the children to a synagogue in Lexington, Kentucky. After the children left for college, Kristina kept busy traveling to craft fairs, where she sold a variety of artwork she created. Finally, after 40 years in Somerset, she moved to Atlanta, Georgia, to be near her daughter, son-in-law and grandchildren.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eKristina relates what she knows about her first years of life and how her parents fled German occupied Poland when the war began. She recounts how her family was detained by the Soviets and sent east. Kristina recollects what she understood about the war and her family\u0026rsquo;s situation. She remembers attending school in the Soviet Union. Kristina shares her memories of the end of the war. She talks about reclaiming her Jewish identity while her family waited to immigrate. Kristina tells how her mother found a sister who survived. She describes the journey to the United States and arriving in New York City. Kristina remembers her early years in America. She introduces her husband and explains how she ended up in the South. Kristina discusses the challenges of raising her children to be Jewish in Kentucky. She talks about visits with her parents, forging relationships with her community, and her desire to leave the past behind. Kristina discusses her children and move to Atlanta. She considers how much the world has changed since her childhood. Kristina describes her relationship with her mother as she adjusted to life in the United States. She shares how she reconciles being a survivor. Kristina offers explanations of the influences that brought her to her present life. She recounts more memories of her childhood and considers her identity as a survivor. Kristina talks about the challenges of being Jewish in the South.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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I was born in Warsaw [Poland] in 1937, and my name is Kristina.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3.0,11.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Your full name at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=11.0,13.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: S-A-M-E-T-M-A-N, Sametman, because then, my father had shortened it to S-A-M-E-T-H and I'm so used to saying that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=13.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Who were all the people in your family when you were growing up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=28.0,32.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Okay, well, I was two when the war started, so I really didn't know the family, but my mother had two sisters. My mother was a pianist. She taught at conservatory. Her two sisters were also musicians. One played the cello and one played the violin, I believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=32.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Do you remember the names of everybody?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=49.0,52.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No. Well, yes, because my daughter was named after the two sisters that had passed away, Rachel and Gitel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=52.0,64.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: And your mom?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=64.0,66.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Pola. My mother's name is Pola.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=66.0,70.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: What was your family's situation in Warsaw? What were they doing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=70.0,75.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I know they were well-to-do because I had a nurse to take care of me. But the sisters and the brothers ... Also on my father's side, my father had two sisters and a brother. The one brother went to Israel in about 1938, just before the war, but the sisters stayed. He had a business. He made shoes. In those days, they were handmade. He did the upper and then he had a shoe cobbler [who] did the bottom, put the soles on that. That's how it was done in the olden days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=75.0,117.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: So, was the maid your main nanny?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=117.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, she was just a nurse. She took me out for walks. It was customary at that time to have a nanny or just a nurse to take the baby for a walk in the carriage, in the buggy, whatever they called it that at that time. But yes, it was the maid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=120.0,143.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Did you hear any stories maybe after the war about your family's history because you would not have known when you were two years old? In retrospect, did you learn any more about your family history?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=143.0,152.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, not very much. They were all ... Except for my father's brother. Actually, my mother had a sister. One of her sisters, her name was Eva or Eve, and she survived. When we were in Russia ... Actually, when ... My father left first--left Warsaw--and then he arranged for my mother and I to be brought over across from Poland to Russia. There was a river and so, when my mother was, you know, she was crossing ... She was about to cross the border with me in her arms, but the Germans had already started surrounding the city and so they caught her. It was like in the middle of the night. We were being led by someone that knew what to do, how to take people in and out of the country. So, they stopped us and they took us into the barracks. There were just German soldiers everywhere. She had told me this story. I heard her talk about it. She said that the German woke everybody up and said, \"Look, what a beautiful child,\" because they were ... I guess they were bored and they were also homesick. So, that was something that they ... It was different. My mother, she said that she had taken her rings and threw them away because they said Germans were cutting the people's fingers off because to get the jewelry and, you know, there were horror stories constantly. They asked her where her husband was, where she was going, and she said she was going across the border to Russia. She said they asked her, \"Where's your husband?\" She said, \"Well, he's in the army, in the Polish army,\" and so they said, \"Oh, he's dead. Just go on.\" They let us go. They didn't know what else to do with us at that time anyway. That was just before the ghettos were formed. So, we did go across the border and my father met us there. We were ... The Russians wanted us to take the Russian citizenship, but my father wouldn't do that. They asked us if we were Jewish and we [said that we] weren't. That's why they named me Kristina. They gave me a Christian name. They said, \"Well, if you're not going to take the citizenship, we'll have to put you in a labor camp.\" So, we were in a labor camp for ... I mean, it was just nothing but snow there. My mother worked on the chain gang--they cleared the roads for the trucks to come in--and my father was ... I don't know. They were constructing some things. I'm not sure what it was, but he had ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=152.0,341.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Do you know where the camp was or the name of it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=341.0,343.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: It was Bialystok [Poland]. It's like, you know, between Poland and Russia. Some say it's Poland and some say it's Russia. I don't know. I'm not quite sure at that time what it was, but it wasn't good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=343.0,358.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: About what year was this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=358.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: This was just after we left. We left Poland. It was like 1940.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=360.0,367.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Okay. So, you were only three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=367.0,368.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Nineteen forty. I was three, exactly. I was three, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=368.0,372.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Was it a ghetto situation in Bialystok?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=372.0,374.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, they were nothing but barracks. At night, it was just like white. [In] Russia, you know, the nights are just moonlit, just as bright as the days. There wasn't much heat. We were just ... The kids were just ... We just stayed in bed to keep warm. After, I don't know, eight months or maybe more than that--I'm not quite sure how long we were there--they had new, other people coming in, so they had to release us. They just said, \"You can go.\" Well, there was just boats. That's the only way to travel, get out of that particular area. It was in the middle of winter and so, naturally, the little boat had frozen in the middle of the lake. We were there for weeks without any food or anything. It was awful. My mother sent me to ask a man. He had about, like, what you call toast now, but it's like bread that's been put out to dry and then put in the bag to eat later because that's all there was. She said he had some bread and then she said he wouldn't refuse a child. She sent me to ask him for a piece of bread and he wouldn't. He said, \"No, I can't part with any of it because I may need it tomorrow and I don't know what tomorrow will bring.\" Anyway, eventually we survived, and we got off the boat, and we were in a small farm town. My father, being a craftsman, he was a shoe [maker]. He knew how to make shoes. There was always a shortage of shoes during the war. He eventually ... He worked in a small factory that made Russian officer boots. He was very good, and he knew how to train people to do good work, so to speak, and to produce a good pair of boots. Naturally, the soldiers, they would give him vodka and he would trade that with a farmer for potatoes and milk. We had a lot of potato soup.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=374.0,515.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: What were your own actual memories as a small child?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=515.0,517.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: That's what I remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=517.0,521.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: So, these were not, like, stories that they told you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=521.0,522.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, this is just what I remember, except I remember the camp. But there were a few things that ... fragments ... They come together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=522.0,533.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: You remember at all the emotional tone around you, how the people were, and how they felt, and all that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=533.0,538.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Well, I know there was fear. There was fear and a lot of the children had to be silenced a lot. I was a very quiet child. It was important to be quiet. Much of the time, we didn't have the lights on. If there was a knock on the door, it was fear. We lived in this very small house. [There] was just nothing there except like a potato patch where they grew potatoes. It was just a big field. We just didn't have anything but just, like, metal beds with just the mattress. There were bedbugs. I would put cotton in my ears because I was afraid they would get ... they would crawl in my ears. That was when I was a little bit [older], about five. When I was seven, I went to the first grade there in Russia. Then, that was 1945, and it was the end of the war, and we were helped. There were people that helped us get out. We went by foot across the border into Czechoslovakia. Then, we were taken care of by the people that took care of refugees and we were in a camp then, in Austria.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=538.0,623.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: So, you spent about four or five years in that area where your father was a shoemaker?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=623.0,628.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, in Russia, five years, about four or five years. Then, the same in Austria ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=628.0,637.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: What are some of your memories ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=637.0,638.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: ... from 1946 to 1950.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=638.0,639.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: ... from that long period?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=639.0,640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Well, when we lived on the farm in Russia, there was a herd of cattle that would ... They would take them out to pasture and then bring them back. Well, the little hut that we lived in, they came around [it]. I was just terrified because there's always one bull and then the cows. The bull would ram its horns into the wall of the [hut]. I thought that building would just jump off of the ground. I was terrified. But eventually, we left there. We lived there for quite a while because it was safe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=640.0,683.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: About where was it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=683.0,684.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Somewhere in Russia. I just can't tell you the town. I should have paid more attention when my mother was talking, you know, telling me. Then, when I wanted to know and I was asking my dad, but he was not well. He was ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=684.0,698.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Was it eastern Russia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=698.0,699.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: He couldn't ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=699.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Do you know if you traveled a long way to get there? Were people Asiatic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=701.0,704.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=704.0,704.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: It was not Uzbekistan or ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=704.0,709.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, just Russia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=709.0,711.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: That narrows it down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=711.0,714.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Sorry about that. I just can't think at the moment. I could [unintelligible].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=714.0,718.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Do you remember what your parents told you during those years as to what was going on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=718.0,722.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, I didn't really ask any questions. The mood was very sad. My mother cried a lot. She missed her family. I knew that we were in danger and barely knew that I was Jewish. I really didn't know. They didn't tell me anything about that. There was no form of religion at that time. I wasn't supposed to know, but when we left Russia, then, I knew.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=722.0,752.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Did your parents tell you to never tell anybody that you are Jewish?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=752.0,756.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=756.0,757.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How did they explain that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=757.0,760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Just, \"Don't tell.\" We didn't tell. The children of war learn very quickly whatever is safe, whatever needs to be done. We're taught ... We grow up quickly when you're in a dangerous situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=760.0,776.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Who were your main friends or who were the people you palled around with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=776.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: There were some people there on the farm, some kids. There were a couple that I was friendly with. We skied there, not slopes or anything, but just, you know, sometimes you had to use skis. Otherwise, you'd get lost in the snow, especially in the winter. I remember trolley cars in the spring. There was a little small town we used to go into, and there were some stores there, and ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=780.0,811.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: What was your family able to take with them when they first left?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=811.0,815.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Nothing. We didn't have anything. We were able to get some rags and stuff and to wrap around our legs. Then, my father would make some ... He made some felt boots for me and my mom. We were really ... considering ... In comparison, we were very well-to-do at that time, if you can call it that. The same thing in Austria. He worked outside of the camp. He did business with some of the local people in Linz, in Austria.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=815.0,854.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: After the war?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=854.0,854.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: [Yes], after the war. He would make the upper part of the shoe and then he would ... A matter of fact, they got me a little bicycle for my 12th birthday. I only remember having one doll, one ball, and one bicycle. I just wanted that bike so badly. They got ... My dad got me the bike and then he would send me to take things to the shoe cobbler. It wasn't too far from the camp. In Austria, everybody was riding bicycles. It was not unusual. At 12, I was conducting business for him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=854.0,893.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: During those earlier years, who were the authorities in that environment? Who were the people enforcing rules, keeping people from leaving, things like that, or was there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=893.0,903.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: In which area?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=903.0,905.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: In that four or five year period on the farm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=905.0,909.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Oh, there? Well, I went to school. I started school when I was seven. So, I was in the red, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=909.0,921.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: So, it was a kolkhoz?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=921.0,923.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes. There was a picture of  [Josef] Stalin. There was a picture of [Vladimir] Lenin. We saluted, and we wore our red outfits, and we marched around, and we had our little programs in school, just like any other school. I felt like I belonged. I was very good in Russian. I spoke very well. They just accepted me as one of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=923.0,949.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: What was taught at the time about the war, from the Russian side of it? Did they talk about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=949.0,955.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: They talked about ... No. Well, I was too young to really know about it. They just glorified [Josef] Stalin and Lenin. Those were the two leaders. They were going through to save Russia, they are taking care of us, and, you know, things are good, always good in Russia. They always said that things were good in Russia--you know that--and the Germans were bad and that's who we're fighting, trying to stay alive. So, that we had in common with the Russians. Except, G-d forbid, I shouldn't be Jewish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=955.0,997.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Was there any comment about Jewishness at the time? What was the value on that in the culture there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=997.0,1004.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: They just wanted people to worship--not worship, but to pay homage and respect to--Stalin and Lenin. Other than that, there was nothing taught. Nothing else was spoken about because they didn't want to bring up the subject right truly. If people worshiped, they did it secretly where religion was not discussed, as far as I know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1004.0,1038.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: As far as you could tell, how did that war period affect your parents, given that they had to hide a lot of things from you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1038.0,1046.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, they were very sad. Of course, they lost their home and their family. They were only ... They were a young couple. My parents were the only couple in the family that had a child. The family said, \"Well, you go, you know, go to Russia, and hide out, and when it's over, you can come back.\" But, when we went back, of course, there was nothing to go back to. Then, my father decided ... Since his brother was in Israel, he decided to head that way. When we were in Austria, he had bought a lot of machinery for a shoe factory, but in 1950, when they were starting ... They were closing a lot of the camps, the refugee camps in 1950, especially the United States, because we were under their protection, the UN and the HIAS. I don't know what the initials are, but you're familiar with that. There were a couple of other ... There were some Jewish organizations and some American as well that I know we had used to get the care packages. We were guarded by the MPs [Military Police] in the camps and they were ... They brought us food and we had ... They would open the care packages and give us clothing and things like that. They were always very nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1046.0,1138.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: What was the end of the war like when that whole farm period ended? What do you remember?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1138.0,1144.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I just remember, like, at three o'clock in the morning, we all got dressed and my mama said, \"We have to leave very, very quietly.\" I had no idea. We went by foot across the border. She said, \"We're moving. We're leaving and we have to be quiet.\" We walked for a very long time. I just remember, just, you know, like fragments of things that I didn't understand, especially. It was like bewilderment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1144.0,1179.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Can you remember, like, what were the sounds like? What was it like doing that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1179.0,1183.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, I don't remember that. I sure don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1183.0,1187.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: You said something about your parents calling you Kristina. Was that your original name, or was that a name they gave you when you were a child and they were trying to hide that you were Jewish?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1187.0,1199.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: In Polish, my name was Krysia, but basically, yes, it was a Christian name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1199.0,1205.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: So, even at birth ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1205.0,1207.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, things weren't that good in Poland for the Jewish people. They thought if, G-d forbid, anything ever happened, that might keep me safer than it would otherwise. There was unrest even in 1937.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1207.0,1225.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Where did you all end up after you ... when you were going on that walk back to Poland?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1225.0,1229.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: We reached Czechoslovakia, they said. It was a camp. It was a refugee camp. We were fumigated. That was the most humiliating, the most degrading experience of my life, all that white powder going everywhere. It was horrible. I guess we were dirty. That was just so shocking to me. But then we lived in barracks like horse stalls and wherever we could.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1229.0,1268.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Were those American camps or Russian?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1268.0,1271.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I'm not sure. I'm not sure who was in charge of those camps, but I imagine there were the various countries that took in refugees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1271.0,1283.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: It was UNRRA?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1283.0,1285.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Possibly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1285.0,1288.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Do you remember where ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1288.0,1289.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: U-N-R-A?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1289.0,1291.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Do you remember where in Czechoslovakia it was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1291.0,1293.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, I sure don't. We weren't there very long. We were just like ... It was just like a stopover and we were headed ... Actually, we were headed to Israel, but at that time, it wasn't so simple to get there. We were directed into a camp in Austria and from there, a lot of people were leaving at various times. Some had relatives, but we didn't have any relatives. So, we were waiting to be eligible to go. We were waiting to be able to go to Israel. But my uncle said ... In 1950, he wrote to my father. He said, \"Times are so bad.\" He says, \"If you have any chance of going to the U.S., to America, you should go there.\" So, my father applied and we ... there were some requirements like health. We had to go through a year of medical examinations. Then, my father had to have a trade so he could be ... so we would be self-supporting. And that was about it. We qualified, and passed all the tests, and got our visas, and we were on our way on [the USS General S. D. Sturgis]. It was a Navy freighter. [It took] twelve endless days in November on the most turbulent waters you could possibly imagine. There were so many people that were so sick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1293.0,1389.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: I am curious. What was it like to suddenly be Jewish after all those years where you had to hide it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1389.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: It was a shock. I didn't know what it was. But then, in the camps, we had people that came in from Israel and taught us. We had Hebrew school in the camp, and we had the Tanahk [the Hebrew Bible], and we started studying that. I didn't have any problem at that time learning languages. We started with alef-bet [Hebrew alphabet] and I just loved it. I said, \"Well, this gave me a sense of belonging. You know, all these people are doing this and it's okay.\" It was amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1394.0,1430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: This is after you got to Austria, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1430.0,1432.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1432.0,1432.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: What was the name of the camp in Austria?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1432.0,1436.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I don't remember the name of the camp. I'm sorry. It may be in one of those pictures.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1436.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: It was near Linz, though, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1440.0,1442.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: It was, yes. Yes, in Linz.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1442.0,1445.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: I just also wanted to ask whether was it through the Brichah organization?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1445.0,1450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, that sounds familiar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1450.0,1452.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: That is what it was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1452.0,1453.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, and the UNRRA, and the HIAS, and just various organizations. I'm sure they were each instrumental in our survival.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1453.0,1464.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: And I just ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1464.0,1464.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: And the US.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1464.0,1468.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Then, your father worked for ORT [Organization for Rehabilitation through Training]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1468.0,1473.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: [Yes.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1473.0,1474.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Can you talk about that a little?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1474.0,1475.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes. He was, you know, a very talented man. He had his business before the war, a shoe business. [In] that, like I mentioned before, he did the upper part of the leather, the leather part of the shoe, and then he would have a cobbler do the bottom part. He had a lot of customers that [were] people that had to have specialty shoes. Like, one would have to maybe be higher than the other. There was a lot of that. He would make the wedge ... one wedge higher. In those days, the women more those wedge shoes, the platform shoes. He specialized in that and he had a lot of satisfied customers. He was a very nice person. He was good, and kind, and he was always willing to teach somebody his craft.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1475.0,1531.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Before leaving for America, did your parents make any attempts to find relatives, neighbors, anything like that that you heard of?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1531.0,1542.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: They tried when we first came, when we went back to Poland for a brief time--I forgot to mention--after the war, but they were just ruins. But when we were in Russia, the gypsies are very popular. There's not a shortage of gypsies in Russia. One time, there was a Gypsy knocked on our door when we were on the little farm. My mother offered her some food or whatever and she said, \"No.\" She said, \"I don't want any. I don't want to be paid until I tell you your fortune, until I tell you what I know.\" Anyway, however she put that. My mom said, \"Okay, come on in.\" She came in and she had cards and various things. She said, \"You know, you have a relative nearby.\" My mother was stunned. She said she gave her a location, I think, if I'm not mistaken. So, there were some people that were helping other people to find their relatives and so forth. She did find her sister and she had a small child. The boy was about two or three and he couldn't walk, or talk, or anything. It was malnutrition. She was in an insane asylum. Her husband was killed and she ... There was no other place to go to survive, so she was living in an insane asylum. My mother and my dad both sent for her. She lived with us and the boy. We got him medical attention since my father was such a craftsman in his trade that he was able to get things that other people couldn't and he had connections with the with the Russian officers because they liked him. He was a very nice person. He got medical attention for the boy and they went on. They came they lived with us until we were in Austria. They went on to Israel. She met a man in Austria. He was a very nice man and she married [him]. Then, they were in Italy for a while, en route to Israel, and she had a little girl. She was born there in Italy. Her name is Shoshana.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1542.0,1714.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Which sister was this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1714.0,1716.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: This was just the one that she found. She didn't know she was living.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1716.0,1720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: She had two sisters, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1720.0,1722.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1722.0,1723.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Which name of the two?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1723.0,1725.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Okay. Her name was Eva.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1725.0,1726.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: This was Eva?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1726.0,1727.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1727.0,1727.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1727.0,1727.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: She went on to Israel. [After] quite a few years, I went to see ... My cousin, her daughter Shoshana, came to visit. She was visiting in Knoxville [Tennessee] and she called me. I had never seen her or spoken to her. She called me and she said, \"My husband and I are here on business.\" Her husband has a factory just a few miles away from Tel Aviv [Israel] and they make army supplies: parachutes, and satchels, backpacks, and things like that. They do very well. He was on business there. But, where they were staying on the fort, nobody was allowed up there because it was under heavy security, in Knoxville. So, my husband and I drove to Knoxville, and picked her up. She stayed overnight with us in Somerset, Kentucky. Then, we drove her back the following day. That was just the most amazing experience. She said, \"You have to come,\" so I did. I went and I saw my aunt. I hadn't seen her since we were in Austria, since I was 12. This was about ten years ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1727.0,1812.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: What else do you remember of that boat trip here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1812.0,1815.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: It was ... Everybody was so sick, even myself, and they had something. They had an infirmary there. There were some young sailors there and I befriended them. They showed me where there was, putting it delicately, restrooms that they used. They showed me where the restrooms were that were not ... You know, other than the people used. It was just for the sailors and it was much nicer because I was very sick. One time, I passed out, and they carried me down to the infirmary, and gave me a shot. But they had ... We were like in hammocks and they were stacked like you couldn't sit up, so you just kinda ... That was my first experience with ... Of course, I've lived in barracks before, but not any beds that were that close together. Then, all night long, the barrels, whatever they were, they would roll. You'd just hear them knocking back and forth. It was just ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1815.0,1891.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Where did the ship finally arrive?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1891.0,1893.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: In New York. We arrived in New York on Thanksgiving Day and guess what? We couldn't get off the ship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1893.0,1901.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Which year was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1901.0,1903.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: In 1950, November 24th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1903.0,1908.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Okay, so you spent five whole years in Austria?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1908.0,1909.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1909.0,1911.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Okay, I did not know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1911.0,1914.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, because right after the war, we had left Russia. That was when we ... As they say, the going was good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1914.0,1923.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: So, you were already 13 when you got here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1923.0,1925.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, I was 13 in October and we arrived here in November and it was so cold and windy in New York especially. We couldn't get off the ship Thursday because nobody work was working on Thursday. So, then we had to wait till the next day. We got off the ship and there were some people from the various Jewish organizations and they took us to a place that ... I guess it was like a stopover. They had just a lot of clothing there and they said, \"Whatever you need,\" because we weren't allowed to take anything. You couldn't take anything on the ship anyway besides a suitcase, just some clothes, and we weren't allowed to bring but a certain amount of money. They took care of us for two weeks. They said we had two weeks to find jobs and so forth. So, both of my parents went to work in a factory because that's what they have in New York, shmattes [Yiddish: old garments; rags]. My mother worked in a belt factory and my father worked in a shoe factory because that's what he did. It was very difficult. We found an apartment in the Bronx, but we didn't know from slums, you know. It was a very rough neighborhood, very bad. We lived on the third floor in a little apartment. The apartment was fine, but my father would carry a briefcase when he would ... There was no elevator because that's all we could afford. There was a foyer there and of course, in the evening when he came home, it was dark. He was mugged two or three times. It was awful. They beat him up because he carried a ... like a briefcase that he carried his few tools and his designs that he was working on. Then our apartment was robbed [for] the little bit that we had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1925.0,2054.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: What were the different types of people who lived there? Were they immigrants?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2054.0,2057.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Puerto Ricans and blacks. There were some [public housing] projects and they're being torn down and building new. They were in the process of building new ones because the neighborhood was so rundown and there were just gangs on the corners. They would ... One time, I was ... I don't know, my mother sent me to buy something, to the grocery store, and I was walking. We lived just around the corner from where I was going. These boys, I don't know why they were just on the streets, you know, but they opened the fire hydrant and they just were pulling me in. There was a little lady that had a store right there--a little Jewish lady--and she came out. She was just yelling and said, \"Leave her alone! Leave her alone!\" So, she pulled me into her store. She said, \"You stay here and you'll be safe till they leave.\" It was just ... I mean, my life was mostly terror. I didn't know how to not be afraid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2057.0,2129.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: I wondered what kind of a kid you were. How would you describe yourself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2129.0,2133.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Very quiet and confused.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2133.0,2138.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Because, you know, you are laughing now ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2138.0,2141.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2141.0,2143.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: ... at your memories, but, at the time, it probably was not that funny.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2143.0,2145.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, it took me a long time to realize that I was a free person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2145.0,2152.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How long before you could speak English?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2152.0,2155.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I had to speak it right away. My mother and I went shopping, and I didn't know about quarters. I didn't know what a quarter was. Usually, it's like five cents or ten cents in other countries, but here it was just like a quarter, and a dime, and a nickel. So, we went to buy a loaf of bread, and I had all this change, and I just opened my hand. I said, \"This will never happen to me again.\" So, naturally, I was in junior high and I learned very quickly. Then, I wouldn't let my mother speak because I didn't want anybody to know that she was ... we were refugees. But I set out to learn English. I said, \"Nobody's ever gonna call me a greenhorn.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2155.0,2202.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How much contact did you have with other refugees or other survivors?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2202.0,2206.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Not much. My mother did. She had some Polish friends, but I just made friends in school. I had my own friends. I just felt strange when they had their friends come [over]. They spoke Polish, of course. They were happy, but, you know, I didn't feel that comfortable with them because it didn't take me long to make friends at school. Then, we would do things with ... You know, we didn't have to wait for a ride, like in the car. We would just go on the bus or take the subway, wherever. Radio City Music Hall was my favorite place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2206.0,2251.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: When did you start to learn about what had really happened in Europe during all those years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2251.0,2257.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I just wanted to put the past behind me, just to be honest with you. When I see Polish people here now and they want to ... I try ... I just ... I don't like to talk about it. I mean, I feel like I want to live in the moment, in the now. It's not so safe now either and it's not good for our people, so nothing has changed in that way, not much. The Jewish people have always been in great danger. I feel that way, but I also feel free. I feel like I'm a person, a human being, whereas before, it was a little bit less than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2257.0,2309.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How did your parents like being in America and developing friends here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2309.0,2311.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: They didn't. They didn't like it. They were very unhappy. They didn't like it. They just wanted to go back home and have things the way they were before the war. They, like, lived in the past, so they were not forgiving in that respect. They would not ... They didn't adjust very well. My mother didn't adjust at all. She died at an early age of 56. But my father, he went on and he was ... Of course, he was working and he was very happy. As soon as he learned the language, he had an office and a secretary. He was very smart. There was a place, a company that he was working for in New York, and they had moved the factory out to Pennsylvania, to Gettysburg. They asked him to come and be their head designer. So, he went from working on the belt line at $35 a week to having his own office, and a secretary, and being the head designer. So, he adjusted. He had his work and he was very happy with that, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2311.0,2390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How did Jewishness become a part of your life once you were here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2390.0,2395.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: When I went to school in Brooklyn, it wasn't a problem because there were a lot of Jewish people there. I lived right close to Ocean Parkway Jewish Center. That's where I was married. It was good. We all ... Like, on the High Holy Days, we were all dressed up, hanging around on Ocean Parkway. You see groups of people just like you do here, close, just like [unintelligible] on Shabbos, everybody ... You see people walking to shul [Yiddish: synagogue] and it's ... This is wonderful here. It's amazing because they'll be mothers that have other small children, and have bigger children, and when they see somebody walking, they say, \"Oh, just go on and walk on with them.\" I'm always picking up young kids, young children. I set up for the Kiddush there on Shabbat. I enjoy that. I love being in shul. It's just something that I didn't have when I was young. I love [it] even if I'm not doing anything, you know, not reading. I just love to sit there and listen to the sound of Hebrew and the Jewishness, you know. It's marvelous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2395.0,2471.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Talk about meeting your husband and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2471.0,2477.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I call it my 40 years in the desert like Moses and it's not just the marriage. It was our ... I lived in a small town and the closest synagogue was 80 miles. I schlepped [Yiddish: carried or drug] my children 80 miles to the synagogue to, like, from Somerset [Kentucky] to Lexington, Kentucky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2477.0,2500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Probably no bagel shops either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2500.0,2502.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: We didn't ... Nobody knew what a bagel was. They just ... Now, they're there, yes. There's a super Wal-Mart in Lexington now and they carry kosher bagels. But, you know, we ... My husband, when we married [or] before we married, he said, \"We'll live wherever you want.\" His last famous words. So, we lived in Somerset for forty ... His parents were not well and the business had to be taken care of. I kept asking, \"When are we going to leave? Let's go. Let's go.\" The children left. They went to college. They wanted to leave Somerset. So, I told them, \"Well, get you an education and you're free to go.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2502.0,2551.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: You lived in Gettysburg first, before you met him?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2551.0,2553.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, I didn't. When my husband and I married, then, my parents moved to Gettysburg after the ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2553.0,2561.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: So, you were in New York?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2561.0,2562.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2562.0,2563.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: And then moved to Kentucky?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2563.0,2563.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2563.0,2563.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2563.0,2563.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, and it was a nightmare.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2563.0,2569.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How come you ended up in Somerset? Did you lose a bet or what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2569.0,2572.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, his father went there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2572.0,2575.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2575.0,2575.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: His father came to Somerset from Mississippi. I always say ... People ask me, \"How did you wind up in Somerset?\" I say, \"He had a pushcart, and I guess he just got tired and stopped.\" There was a store available and he moved in, moved his schmattes in. When I came there, they had stockings still hanging from the ceiling. Can you imagine that? To me, it was just amazing, but eventually ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2575.0,2603.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: You left New York City to go to Somerset?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2603.0,2604.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, but I was so young and so foolish [at] 19. I thought, \"I can make this work,\" because I'm a person that's committed to whatever I'm committed to. And marriage was a commitment and that was forever. So that's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2604.0,2621.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How do you suppose you were different, let's say, at the age of 19 compared to other 19-year-old young women who were Americans? How did the whole refugee experience and Russia ... How did that, do you suppose, change you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2621.0,2637.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2637.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Tough question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2640.0,2641.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I just thought I could live anywhere and do anything, as far as tolerance. But that was ... It was very difficult. My mother always taught me to be independent. She said, \"In case we get separated, you have to take care of yourself.\" So, I really didn't feel like I needed somebody all the time to help me and take care of me. She taught me to do ... People now, they say, \"You can do anything you want.\" I'm digging holes in the yard, planting, and crocheting, and painting, and cooking and ... But that's how I was brought up: just to do whatever needs to be done to survive, to take care of myself. So that was ... It wasn't too ... It was difficult dealing with the family because they were total ... I mean, like hillbillies. I shouldn't say that. I'm sorry. Take that out, please. They were ... Southern Jewish people are different from the Northern Jewish people, but there were no Jewish people except for the family. So, I ... We traveled through country roads. I schlepped my children to Sunday School and to Lexington. There was a rabbi there, Rabbi [Bernard] Schwab. If it weren't for him, I couldn't have done it. He had diabetes. He walked to shul and they lived a long ways from the shul. He wanted to keep the shul Orthodox and the people didn't want it Orthodox because there was such a mix. There was also a Reformed shul, but the Orthodox, most people wanted to go there because they were ... It had a Jewish connection, but they didn't want to be Orthodox themselves, so they wanted the rabbi to ease up, so to speak, but he wanted to ... Anyway, so he had a lot of trouble. That's what I'm getting at. He had a lot of trouble with his feet because he had diabetes and he walked so much. Consequently, he was in the hospital quite a bit with his feet and he would call and say, \"Bring them here,\" or \"Bring them here.\" I had two boys and a girl. I would take them to the hospital and he would teach them. We put their prayers on tape and I would practice with them. I knew a little Hebrew that I learned in Austria. When I came here, I wanted to go to Hebrew school, but they said that they wouldn't ... They didn't have a place for me because I was way too advanced with my Hebrew. Because I used to write letters to my uncle that lived in Israel when I was 12, I was fluent in Hebrew. I loved it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2641.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: What was it about Jewishness that was meaningful to you in particular?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2820.0,2827.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: It was unique suffering. I said, \"Well, it's suffering. It has meaning.\" And I'm learning something every day. I think being Jewish means a certain degree of suffering. Of course, the suffering is an aside from way back for my people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2827.0,2857.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Talk about your husband and kids a little bit. What are they like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2857.0,2860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Okay. My daughter lives here in this house, and so I built this so I could be close because they're shomer Shabbos, so they don't travel. I thought if I got a place of my own and it wasn't within walking distance--and it's difficult to find an apartment with because this is mostly residential--that they wouldn't eat my food if I had to travel to, you know, drive on Shabbat. She thought this would be the best thing and then they can sell it or rent it later. It's ideal for both of us. They have two little boys [who are age] ten--well, not so little--ten and eight. They're wonderful boys. My son-in-law is quite religious and he's learning. He just ... It was like ... He was as we were, my daughter. They weren't brought up in a very religious area, but he became religious here in Atlanta at Beth Jacob. They used to ... They lived in Toco Hills.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2860.0,2927.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Talk about raising children way back in the late 1950s, early 1960s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2927.0,2931.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: It was terrible. It was very difficult. I was in a town where there were no Jewish people there. Well, there was one furniture store, Goldberg's, and they were Jewish, but they were ... The parents were from Somerset and they were socially active, whereas the Salutskys, my family, they were not so socially active because they didn't want the children to intermarry or marry, you know, out of their faith. So, I was ... It was very lonely. It was bad, very bad. When I had my children and I was raising them, I was taking them to Lexington. On Sunday, they went to Sunday school. Then, in the summer, during the week, I would take them maybe once or twice a week. It was 80 miles on a country road back and forth. But then, I would take them to a movie and my husband's sister lived there, so we went to visit. She was the librarian at the synagogue, a very smart lady. She just recently passed away. She was very good and very kind. So, that helped. But I have to tell you this one little incident. One Sunday morning, I was getting ready to [go]. We had to be there at ten Sundays, so we had to leave home about eight o'clock at the latest because it took me two good hours to drive, especially in the winter. It didn't look like there'd been any snow on the ground. I didn't have time to listen to the news. So, I packed my children the car, as I usually do, and I'm off on the road and I get to the synagogue. There was a note on the door and it says, \"Due to the extreme cold weather, there will not be any Sunday school today.\" It was ten below zero. I said, \"What?\" Later, I found out that they had called, but I was already gone. I had left. So, I called my sister-in-law. I told her that I was at the shul and she said, \"Well, come to the house.\" I said, \"Well, first I'm going to call the rabbi because I came here for the lessons and we are going to get a lesson.\" I called the rabbi and he says, \"Okay.\" He says, \"Come,\" whatever time, in an hour, because he wasn't ready to go. He was not well. He was blind already and he was just not a well man, but he loved to teach. So, I took my children to my sister-in-law's and she says, \"What are you doing here? It's ten below zero.\" That's when I first realized that's how determined I was to give my children roots. That's why, when you ask me, 'What does it mean for me to be Jewish,' that's exactly what it means. So, we had days like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=2931.0,3132.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How much contact were they able to have with your grandparents, your parents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3132.0,3137.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: My parents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3137.0,3138.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: They were still in New York?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3138.0,3139.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I would take them to Pennsylvania. They lived ... Because they moved to Pennsylvania. Yes, I would take the train sometimes from Lexington to Washington [D.C.], and then my father would pick me up in Washington. It was only like, I don't know, 60 miles, but the roads weren't like in Kentucky. We went by the Eisenhower farm. Or, sometimes I would fly. My mother always paid for my trips. Whenever she wanted me to come, I would take the children and we'd go to Pennsylvania, to Gettysburg. They loved it there. We had a good time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3139.0,3174.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How much did your parents discuss with you when you were adult about the whole war experience?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3174.0,3179.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, in the old school, nobody discussed anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3179.0,3183.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Did you ask questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3183.0,3186.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: They talked, yes, but I was so determined to be an American, I didn't want to know from the bad. I didn't want to hear anything bad in the past. It seemed so horrid and my new life seems so wonderful, and just being accepted. When I lived in Somerset, I was invited to every church in town and every school to speak. I would take my children and we would work out a program like they would talk about. We would take all our things, you know, the menorahs, and the tallits, and everything that we had, that we used for the various holidays. We would make a little ... Each of them would have a little talk. We had a program and they thought we were just fantastic. There was a small school--well, an elementary school--and one of the teachers had been a nun at one time. She called me every year from around the holiday because the Catholic keep Pesach. They don't keep it, but they have a Passover service at the church. At least, they did in Somerset and I knew ... The priest came and had seder with us because they invited me to the church. I said, \"I can't go.\" I said, \"I have my seder.\" He says, \"I would love to come.\" I said, \"Come on,\" so, he came and had seder with us. We each had a Haggadah because we got them from Lexington from Sunday School, my children had. We had several of them and we did the things right. We got our food from Cincinnati, Ohio for kosher Passover. That was a schlep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3186.0,3303.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Did you ever go back to Warsaw as an adult?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3303.0,3306.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, we went back to a small ... We were in a small town for a while after the war that had been one that had been Polish and then the Germans took ... Anyway, it was evacuated and there were things there in the apartment. I found a doll and it had ... Its head was broken and I glued it together. I was so careful with it. It was just amazing to have a doll. I schlepped it [everywhere], and I cleaned, and washed it, and glued it. Finally, something happened to it. But that was one toy I remember besides the bicycle. I wanted to bring it with me, but they wouldn't let me and I just was heartbroken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3306.0,3358.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: After your 40 years in the desert in Kentucky, how did you get to Atlanta?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3358.0,3363.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I just got in my car, I packed my things, and I said, \"Goodbye.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3363.0,3371.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Really? And you took everybody with you or ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3371.0,3374.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Just myself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3374.0,3375.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3375.0,3376.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: My children were already here. I mean, they're grown. They have children. I have a son [who] lives in Ohio, in Columbus, Ohio. His name is Fred. He has a boy and a girl about the same age as my daughter's [children], ten and seven. I have a younger son and he's in school in Las Vegas [Nevada], but he's in Kentucky for the summer. He got a professorship this year, so ... because he's been in and out of school. When he graduated high school, he was in the Governor's Scholars program. He wants to write. He has some works [published], poetry. His major was in English, and he speaks so beautifully, and writes so pretty. He is amazing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3376.0,3428.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Along with motherhood, did you continue your education or get in any particular line of work outside of family life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3428.0,3433.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I was, yes. I was active as a volunteer at the PTA [Parent Teacher Association] and I taught art as a volunteer, on a volunteer basis, at the school where my children went. Yes, I was active in various ... I worked in the store and I also did my crafts. I was selling the things that I made, whatever I made, like macrame. You remember? Or you may have heard of it. I made jewelry, necklaces, and bracelets, and earrings, and I sold them in the store. Then, later, I painted clothing and I just traveled and did craft shows. So, that was a full-time job. I painted all day and all night, and on weekends, I traveled after the children left.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3433.0,3486.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How did you decide on Atlanta in particular?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3486.0,3489.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Because my daughter came here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3489.0,3493.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: What was your husband's name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3493.0,3494.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Charles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3494.0,3495.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Charles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3495.0,3496.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: It still is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3496.0,3497.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: It still is. And your children, in order?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3497.0,3502.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: My son, yes, he's ... Well, Fred is the oldest, [in] his early 40s. Then, my daughter was just 18 months younger than he. Then, my youngest son is nine years younger. When they all left for school, I got lonely and I thought, \"Well, three children sounds like a good number.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3502.0,3526.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: It is Rita, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3526.0,3528.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Rita.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3528.0,3528.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: And then, your younger son's name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3528.0,3529.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Ron.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3529.0,3531.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Let me just ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3531.0,3532.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Over the years, have you talked to your children about this whole family history?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3532.0,3537.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Well, actually, not very much, because we didn't have family, you know, except for my parents. Of course, they had accents, so they knew that they had come from Europe during the war and they accepted that. Once in a while, they did a project at school. They would ask me about it and I would tell them whatever they wanted to know. They ... you know, because they see ... In school, they see films and they're taught about the war.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3537.0,3574.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How much did you ever study the Holocaust as a subject over the years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3574.0,3579.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, I stayed away from it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3579.0,3580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How come?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3580.0,3580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I just stayed away from it because I felt like I was misplaced, you know, that my life as it would have been had been taken away. There was no need to dwell on it. A new life takes place and this is what I pursued, my new life as an American, as a Jewish American. Jewish is very important to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3580.0,3613.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Ruth, can you think of anything?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3613.0,3618.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: I was wondering what you thought now of the situation in Europe--there is the rise of antisemitism again--and how you view that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3618.0,3629.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I'm very sad and very concerned. I just regret it so deeply. It's just heartbreaking because nothing has changed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3629.0,3642.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Your parents named you a name that would not necessarily peg you as being Jewish right off the bat. But when you went to raise your own children, it sounds like you gave them a very firm and rich sense of being Jewish. Can you talk about that a little bit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3642.0,3658.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes. Well, there is not much I can do. A lot of ... You know, when I go to shul, I'm so embarrassed because I have a Christian name. People say, \"Well, you can change it or you could have changed it.\" I said, \"My mother named me that, gave me a name so that life would be easier for me and I just can't change it.\" I like my name, but it's just not very appropriate at shul. But people get used to it, you know, once they get to know me, and there's not a problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3658.0,3694.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Do you think that the world is now safer for your children and your grandchildren, or do you still have concerns?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3694.0,3701.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: G-d willing, it's safer here in the U.S. because in Europe it was always very bad. Even before the war, there was a lot of antisemitism. I guess that's why my mother, my parents gave me a Christian name because it was becoming more and more predominant antisemitism, especially in Warsaw, because Warsaw was not ... There were not very many Jewish people there. Since my parents were well-to-do and they were also famous ... not famous, but they were in the music business and other business, and so they were ... Their associates more than likely were not Jewish. But when we were in camp, even when we came here, my father always made sure that he, when he did business with people, that he wanted to do business with the Jewish people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3701.0,3769.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How long did you remain a Stalinist or did you change?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3769.0,3773.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I didn't understand that very much, but everybody saluted, so I saluted. I just went right along. That's all you can do during the war or ... Well, yes. Here, you have a choice, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3773.0,3789.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: What was it like for you to raise your children as Americans and as American Jews and not necessarily as ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3789.0,3798.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: European?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3798.0,3799.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: ... not in the European style?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3799.0,3801.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, well, it wasn't ... Since I was so young when we came here and I wanted to adapt an American attitude and American life, it wasn't too difficult. You know, I just ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3801.0,3818.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: What did that mean for you as a child?  You were ... You said your parents ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3818.0,3820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I was happy. I was very happy that they were ... that I was able to raise my children in a totally different fashion than I grew up, to say the least.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3820.0,3830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Well, when you came here and you went to school, I guess you ... Did you fit in at all, or did it take a while to make the transition?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3830.0,3837.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, I was very well liked. People just took me under their wing, it seemed. I had no problem whatsoever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3837.0,3847.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: You said that your mother had a rough time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3847.0,3850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes. Now, she didn't like it. She didn't want to adjust and she was very unhappy. She missed her family. I guess you might say she was a little spoiled because she had a good life before the war and naturally, that's something one doesn't forget easily.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3850.0,3866.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How did that affect you as far as a mother-daughter relationship?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3866.0,3869.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, not good. We didn't have a very good relationship. We were close and she always took good care of me. She always made sure that I had nice clothes when we came here and took me shopping. She made my clothes when we first came because we didn't have any money. She would make my clothes by hand. She had a friend that came here also from Europe and she worked in a small dress shop in New York. They had a lot of famous clients there. The materials were extremely expensive, but she was able to get small pieces of fabric, maybe where there was a yard or yard and a half left over. She would be allowed to buy that. So, then, she would resell it to my mom and she would make me clothes. Actually, my friends thought I was wearing designer clothes. I was ashamed to wear them to school until they were saying things like that. I'd say, \"Oh, I can't afford ... \" something. They'd say, \"Oh, yeah? With the clothes you wear?\" I was stunned when I realized that, you know, my mother was quite a lady. She would make them by hand because we didn't have a sewing machine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3869.0,3951.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Did it take you a long time to ... Or what was your sense of your parents? I mean, coming to America kind of as refugees and when did they become or did they become heroes to you, in a certain sense, because they had saved you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3951.0,3969.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Unfortunately, [they did] not. I was a very ungrateful child. I wished my parents were normal Americans, just like my friends', and happy, and just socializing, and doing things--although, we did go places and do things, but not that much. So, mostly I went with my friends because I was a teenager.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3969.0,3997.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: So, you really saw them as embodying this sort of this very sad, European ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=3997.0,4003.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, I always associated them with the war, and all the sadness, and starvation. It's not a very good ... But that's what I saw and that's how it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4003.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Have you gotten to know any other survivors over the years of camps, and ghettos, and so on in America?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4020.0,4026.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, there's some people here. Of course, not in Somerset. In Somerset, they're all country people. They're wonderful people. They took me in, too, you know, took me to heart, to their home, whatever. They always wanted me to go to church with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4026.0,4048.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: But you go to the Cafe Europa here, you said?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4048.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4050.0,4051.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: So, what is it like meeting people from the old country?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4051.0,4056.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I don't feel anything. I feel like I'm a little strange. I really ... I don't ... I can't feel a connection unfortunately. They are quite a bit older than I am and I guess I haven't really ... except for Dorothy. I spoke with her, but I feel that I am ... I feel different. You know, like I felt different when I first came here from the Americans. Now, I feel different from them. I feel more like an American, where I just can't feel a kinship. I should, but I can't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4056.0,4108.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Have you allowed yourself to consider that most Jewish children born in 1937 in Europe did not make it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4108.0,4116.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4116.0,4117.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: You were probably one of the relative few that did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4117.0,4119.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Few, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4119.0,4121.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Does that bother you? Does that ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4121.0,4122.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I feel very fortunate. That's why I try to help wherever I can and do you know, as they say, kindness, as the rabbi would put it, do kind deeds. Yes, I do. I wonder all the time, 'Why was I so blessed with such a wonderful family?' Although it's not always ... Things aren't always perfect. I mean, my children are okay, but my life was a little strange, to say the least. But, I made the best of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4122.0,4159.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Is there anything else you want to mention? Anything about your husband? Anything else to add to the story?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4159.0,4165.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Well, people think that I have just left him behind, but my husband has a twin brother and they are inseparable. It didn't make a very good situation because they were raised together and they were not allowed to date. They had an older brother. They had two brothers because the twins came ten years ... were born ten years after the last of the other four children. So, they were quite older, the others. He had an older brother that was a chemist, a doctor in chemistry, and he married a girl he went to college with. She was not Jewish, so the father never spoke to her and they treated her like an outsider. But she would come and she was a very sweet girl. I felt very badly for her. I thought, 'Well, she's family,' you know, but they didn't accept it. So, when the twins came along, they weren't allowed to date or go anywhere. So, they kept company to ... you know, kept to themselves and they would go to the store because the mother took them to the store from the time they were little. So, they were not very outgoing and they kept to themselves. That made my life very difficult until I couldn't stand it anymore. I got in my car and left. I was ... I talked to my daughter and I said, \"I can't stand it.\" I said, \"Your dad is not going to take me anywhere. He's not going to leave.\" I said, \"I have to be with my people\"--not necessarily European people, but Jewish people. Now, that I feel a very large connection to. I love being Jewish. It's the most important thing to me whether I am shomer Shabbos or not. I keep kosher for my children because I cook for them quite a bit. But as you can see, I have my privacy as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4165.0,4299.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Have you gone to Israel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4299.0,4301.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, I love it there, but I couldn't stay. By the time I got to [go], I was able to go ... I wanted to go when I was young. Of course, my parents wouldn't hear of it and I didn't. It was just the thing to obey your parents. Now, kids do whatever they want, but I was a pretty obedient child. I had to be, you know, growing up during the war, through the war. But when I did go, I had children here, so I ... I wanted to stay, but I would have missed them too much. I couldn't leave them and not be with the children and the grandchildren. That's the reason I came to Atlanta, just so I could see the grandchildren. Although, I don't ... Well, on Thanksgiving, we go to Somerset. Then, my son comes here also. We all meet in Somerset because Columbus is about a four-hour drive and this is about five, five and a half, six-hour drive with the children. My husband, and his brother, and my youngest son were here last week, so I was glad to see him. I was glad to see them all. I wish that things would have been different. I just regret for 40 years I call, like Moses, my 40 years in the desert.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4301.0,4382.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: The deserts of Kentucky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4382.0,4384.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: But it was beautiful there. We had lakes. I had a boat. Well, I bought a secondhand runabout. I took the children when they were home, take them skiing on the lake. It was a wonderful experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4384.0,4402.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Did they have any difficulty being Jewish without other Jewish children to play with during the days?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4402.0,4410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, they did. They did, but that's why I schlepped them to Lexington just to give them roots and give them ... But they didn't see the Jewish kids at the shul often enough to make friends. They had ... It was very difficult for them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4410.0,4427.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: You were kind of persecuted in a certain sense for being Jewish. Why do you suppose it has become so ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4427.0,4434.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4434.0,4434.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: ... central to your life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4434.0,4438.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I don't know. Just in spite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4438.0,4442.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: The most Jewish thing of all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4442.0,4444.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Exactly. I just [do it] in spite ... Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4444.0,4453.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Is there anything else you could think that maybe you would want your children to watch later on? Anything else you would want them to know? What types of questions ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4453.0,4462.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I wish I had written down a few words of wisdom to tell you, but this is difficult because I'm under a little ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4462.0,4472.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Are there even any other little memories about your parents or your life growing up, just little things that it would be nice for you to tell them? Any other little stories?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4472.0,4482.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I remember my mother used to say that when I was a baby, she would put me on the piano so I would be musically inclined. She would play the piano and I would scream. I have no musical talents whatsoever other than I love classical music. I wanted to introduce the classical music to my children, but they're not interested. My youngest is. He's an intellectual. He is different. But, that's fine. Whatever makes them happy makes me happy. I try to help them along in that direction as much as I can. But other than that, my mother loved the children. I would take ... She was not well. She had angina and she ... I don't think she'd ever been to a doctor, but I think it was all those potatoes, and bread, and milk. People, especially Jewish people from Europe, they eat too much starch and fat. We would just cook the meat with the fat and everything and eat it. It was boiled because there were no ovens at that time. But, we had a little ... It was like a brick stove in Russia. It was like a little brick stove and we kept warm. But most of the time, it was cold when we lived ... like, in the stalls, there was icicles on the ceiling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4482.0,4574.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: What do you suppose takes you to that Cafe Europa?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4574.0,4579.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4579.0,4579.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: I am not saying you should not. I am just wondering what ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4579.0,4581.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes. No, I understand the question. I'm thinking. I [go] just thinking that I may learn something because, usually when there is a meeting of minds, there is something to be learned. I'm thinking maybe I will, you know, click with someone, and eventually get to know people, and make friends. But, you know, when they talk about how it was, I can't relate to that. I guess that's why my parents ... You know, they wanted to talk about it, but I really resented them talking to me about the good times when I've never seen them. I didn't know about that. I have not experienced that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4581.0,4637.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: You are almost like a second-generation person in an indirect kind of way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4637.0,4642.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes, I was thinking that, too. I'm sort of in between. I just know that I have lived through the war and it was very bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4642.0,4654.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: It might be interesting for you to go to that second-generation group and ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4654.0,4658.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: You think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4658.0,4659.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: It might be an interesting angle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4659.0,4661.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I did not know there was such a group.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4661.0,4663.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Yes, they call it Common Threads or something like that. Yes, it meets at the Jewish Family Services every once a month, every couple of months. I have not been there in a while.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4663.0,4672.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: We will get a ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4672.0,4674.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Oh, do you go? Your parents are from ... Of course. Yes, we just talked about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4674.0,4680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: Yes, I randomly ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4680.0,4680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Are we still on there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4680.0,4681.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Yes, sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4681.0,4681.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: You can always cut it out, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4681.0,4687.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Yes, but, I mean, I think it is all part of ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4687.0,4688.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I'm sorry I ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4688.0,4690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: It is all part of life in America. I mean, like, who are you and what do you have in common with whom? You have so much in common and not in common with these very disparate groups of people. I mean, I can understand wanting to go to meet people who had the same experience or had similar experiences, even if you do not necessarily relate to them. I mean, it is ... I would think it would be very interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4690.0,4713.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I could tell you something that is very cute because I've had all sorts of experiences in Somerset as far as being Jewish, but I had one ... Because when you're in business, people come into the store and you're ... Everybody knew who I was. Anyway, so somebody was talking. There was a conversation, and there was a lady standing by, and she says, \"You're Jewish?\" I said, \"Yes.\" She says, \"Let me touch you. I want to touch you.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4713.0,4748.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: I want to feel for your horns?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4748.0,4750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, she just touched my arm. She says, \"I want to touch you.\" I didn't dare ask. To her, it was almost like, I don't know, a spiritual experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4750.0,4768.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: You should have charged her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4768.0,4769.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: That surprised me because it's always the other way around. And then another time ... But a lot of ... Somebody ... There was another conversation. That was a man involved in the conversation and he says, \"You're Jewish?\" He says, \"You're not like ... But you're not like the Jewish people that ... not like other Jewish people.\" I thought that was a strange comment and I said, \"Well, how many Jewish people have you known?\" He says, \"Well, not any, really.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4769.0,4808.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: How is this Jew different from all other Jews?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4808.0,4811.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: It's just what they hear and it's never good. I found this atmosphere in Somerset as I lived there. The people, they considered me being Jewish, but not like other Jewish people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4811.0,4828.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: You are one of the 'good' ones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4828.0,4828.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I was more like they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4828.0,4833.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: So, you are a survivor of Europe and you are a survivor of Somerset.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4833.0,4836.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Somerset. Twice a survivor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4836.0,4840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: And the Bronx.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4840.0,4841.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: And the Bronx. It was a nightmare. It was so bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4841.0,4845.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kent: On that, I am curious. Since your first experience with blacks and Hispanics was somewhat negative, what was it like moving to the South, where there is obviously more of a black population?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4845.0,4856.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: No, there weren't. In Somerset, it was just mostly white and ignorant, I mean, and Christian, a lot of very church oriented ... However, there was a group ... The Baptists are the more religious than the other groups. They were a little bit more. But anyway, there was a youth group from the Baptist church, went with me to Lexington to the synagogue. The Rabbi Schwab spoke with them. Oh ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4856.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: It is okay. Do not worry about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4890.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I forgot about wearing, having that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4890.0,4896.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: It's fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4896.0,4896.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I'm not accustomed to being interviewed, not in this fashion, this glamorous fashion. Yes, and they asked him questions. They said, \"What would it take? What would I have to do if I wanted to become Jewish?\" He said, \"Well, firstly, I would try to talk you out of it three different times.\" I didn't know that. That was a learning experience for me. Then, they asked him something about the Old Testament and he says, \"You know, when a man has only one suit, he does not call it his 'old' suit.\" He says, \"This is all there is. This is our Bible, our holy scriptures, but they always refer to it as the 'Old Testament.'\" So, those are the little experiences from Somerset.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4896.0,4961.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: You have been a stranger in a strange land.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4961.0,4963.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Yes. You're Jewish, but you are more ... You're one of us. Well, at least it was a good thought to them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4963.0,4974.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Is there anything else that you can think of that you would like to [say] since we are here with the camera? No? Is there anything?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4974.0,4981.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: I just ... There are so many things and I don't know if I ... I probably have already mentioned everything that I can remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4981.0,4993.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Einstein: Well, it is a very interesting story and we want to thank you so much for agreeing to do the interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4993.0,4999.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/transcript/74573/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Salutsky: Well, thank you for taking the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4999.0,5004.633"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Annotations [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eWorld War II officially began in Europe when Germany invaded Poland on Friday, September 1, 1939.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=32.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBoth the Russian and German armies invaded Poland in September 1939. On September 28, Germany and the Soviet Union reached an agreement partitioning Poland and outlining their zones of occupation. A demarcation line for the partition of German- and Russian-occupied Poland was established along the Bug River, between Krakow and Lvov. It is estimated that the number of refugees who crossed from the German-occupied part of Poland to the areas annexed by the Soviet Union totaled about 300,000. The Russians left the border freely open to traffic until the end of October 1939. From then until the end of 1939 a small number of persons still crossed the border. After that, it was completely sealed. Some refugees still attempted to sneak across the heavily guarded border, often at great danger. Those caught trying to cross between occupation zones or trying to flee without papers faced arrest and arbitrary violence at the hands of both Russian and German border guards. The demarcation line would remain in effect until June 22, 1941, when the Germans invaded the Soviet Union in a military campaign codenamed Operation “Barbarossa.”\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=152.0,341.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe term “ghetto” originated in sixteenth-century Venice from the Jewish quarter, where authorities compelled the city’s Jews to live. The term’s usage spread across Europe and referred to areas within cities where members of minorities (typically Jews) lived and were often restricted to by the authorities to separate them from the majority Christian population. During World War II, Nazi Germany established ghettos in segregated city districts to further isolate and imprison regional Jewish populations. Starting in 1939, the Germans established at least 1,000 ghettos in German-occupied and annexed Poland and the Soviet Union alone. Jews living in ghettos experienced miserable conditions and overcrowding.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=152.0,341.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBialystok is the largest city in northeastern Poland and is near the border with Belarus. The city was chartered in 1692 and has been a leading center of academic, cultural and artistic life, and an economic center in northeastern Poland. During the Soviet occupation of eastern Poland in 1939-1941, it was briefly incorporated into Belarus.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=343.0,358.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eIn July 1939, there were 50,000 Jews in Bialystok. By October 1939, refugees who had fled from Nazi-occupied areas in Poland brought the Jewish population up to around 140,000. In 1940 (one year before the Germans commenced their program of extermination), Soviet ruler Joseph Stalin ordered the deportation of at least 200,000 Polish Jews—including thousands of Jewish refugees who had fled from German-occupied Poland—from Russian-occupied Eastern Poland to farms and labor camps in Siberia, central Asia, and other locations deep in the interior of the Soviet Union. In the spring and summer of 1940, tens of thousands of Jews were deported from Bialystok. It is likely that the Sametman family were among those deported.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=374.0,515.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe war in Europe officially ended on May 7, 1945, when German General Alfred Jodl signed an unconditional surrender to the Allies in Reims, France. The following day, Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel officially surrendered to Soviet forces in Berlin. May 8 was celebrated by the Allies as “V-E Day,” which stands for “victory in Europe.”\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=538.0,623.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe communist government that came to power in the 1917 Russian Revolution followed an unofficial policy of state atheism. Officially, it did not outlaw religion in the Soviet Union. However, religion was seen as a threat to the socialist state and, especially after Joseph Stalin came to power, it began making efforts to eliminate religious institutions. Atheism was propagated in schools, religious institutions had their property confiscated, and believers were harassed. During the Great Purge of the 1930s, religious leaders were among the hundreds of thousands of people jailed and executed as political enemies. While the Russian Revolution had replaced the centuries-old official antisemitism of the Tzars, deeply ingrained antisemitic attitudes made Jews suspects of potential opposition. Communist ideology asked Jews to assimilate and not to identify as anything but loyal to the state.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=722.0,752.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eA kolkhoz, and its close cousin, the solhkoz, were large collective farming communes in the Soviet Union. They began after the October Revolution of 1917, when the state began to appropriate privately held land. Everyone living in the commune got paid a share of the farm’s product and profit according to how many days they worked. The product was sold to the government for very low prices. Kolkhozes were disbanded after 1991 and people were allowed to own their own land again, although state farms still exist.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=921.0,923.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eJoseph Vissarionovich Stalin (b. Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili, 1878-1953) was the leader of the Soviet Union from the mid-1920’s until his death. He is considered one of the most powerful and murderous dictators in history. Under his regime, an estimated 18 million people passed through the Gulag system of forced labor camps, and more than six million were deported to remote regions of the country, which together resulted in millions of deaths.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=923.0,949.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eVladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (1874-1924), better known as Vladimir Lenin, was a Russian revolutionary, politician and political theorist who was the founder and first head of government of Soviet Russia from 1917 until his death in 1924, and of the Soviet Union from 1922 until his death.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=923.0,949.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe color red became a symbol of communism during the Russian revolution, when the Red Army (Bolsheviks) fought the White Army (loyalists to the czar). 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Today, the organization continues to provide support to refugees and immigrates of all nationalities, ethnicities, and religions. The organization also works with people whose lives and freedom are believed to be at risk due to war, persecution, or violence. HIAS has offices in the United States and across Latin America, Europe, Africa, and the Middle East. Since its inception, HIAS has helped resettle more than 4.5 million people.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1046.0,1138.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration (UNRRA) was founded in 1943. Its mission was to provide economic assistance to European nations after World War II and to repatriate and assist the refugees who would come under Allied control. UNRRA managed hundreds of displaced persons camps in Germany, Italy, and Austria and played a major role in repatriating survivors to their home countries in 1946-1947. It largely shut down operations in 1947.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1046.0,1138.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eWhen hostilities ended on May 8, 1945, in Europe, as many as 100,000 Jewish survivors found themselves among the 7,000,000 uprooted and homeless people classified as displaced persons (DPs). In a chaotic six-month period, 6,000,000 non-Jewish DPs, who had been deported to Germany as forced laborers for the Nazis, wandered through Germany and Eastern Europe toward their homelands. The liberated Jews, who were plagued by illness and exhaustion, emerged from concentration camps and hiding places to discover a world in which they had no place. Bereft of home and family, and reluctant to return to their pre-war homelands, these Jews were joined in a matter of months by more than 150,000 other Jews fleeing fierce antisemitism in Poland, Hungary, Romania and Russia. In late 1945 and the summer of 1946, a series of horrific assaults against surviving Jewish communities occurred in postwar East Central Europe, particularly in Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Ukraine, Russia and Romania. Allied forces established temporary facilities (DP camps) across Germany, Austria, and Italy to house DPs. From 1945 to 1952, more than 250,000 Jewish displaced persons lived in camps and urban centers in Germany, Austria, and Italy. Allied authorities and the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration (UNRRA) administered these facilities. Displaced Jews registered with various aid agencies like UNRRA (United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration), the IRO (International Refugee Organization), or the British Red Cross’ Central Tracing Bureau (which would later be renamed the International Tracing Service) in the hopes of reconnecting with their families. Eventually, DPs were repatriated to their home countries, reestablished themselves in new countries or immigrated outside of Europe. 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A series of pogroms and discriminatory laws were signs of growing antisemitism, while fewer and fewer opportunities to emigrate were available. A series of pogroms occurred in the 1930s. In Lodz, for example, organized attacks wounded and killed Jews in April 1933, May 1934 and in September 1935. At Polish universities, Jews experienced discrimination and exclusion. Unofficial quotas restricting Jewish enrollment to around 10 percent was introduced at some universities. Jewish students often endured harassment and even physical violence from right-wing students. Most were required to sit in segregated areas of the classroom known as “ghetto benches” [Polish: getto ławkowe]. An economic boycott of Jewish businesses was in full force by 1937. 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The camp was administered by the International Refugee Organization and seems to have been opened sometime in late 1946. Initially, it housed about 2,000 mostly Hungarian Jewish DPs. Later, however, it became overcrowded with over 5,000 DPs. The DPs were housed in requisitioned houses, apartments and barracks near the former Hermann-Goering works factory. In mid 1947, the ORT opened a school in Ebelsberg. The school became a key part of preparation for emigration to Palestine and, by April 1948, almost 25 percent of the camp population was engaged in the ORT training. Courses included training in electricity, shoe-upper manufacture and needle work, auto mechanics, locksmithing, electro mechanics, cabinet making and goldsmithing.  After 1949, Ebelsberg served as a collection point for those not being able to emigrate- invalids, chronically ill and those waiting for ill relatives before emigrating.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1432.0,1436.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAfter World War II, the Brichah [Hebrew: “escape” or “flight”] was an underground effort that helped Jewish Holocaust survivors escape to what was then the British Mandate of Palestine in violation of the White Paper of 1939. Officers of the Jewish Brigade of the British army, along with operatives from the Haganah (the Jewish clandestine army in Palestine) helped to smuggled as many displaced Jewish persons as possible into Palestine through Italy. The American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee funded them. After the Kielce pogrom of 1946, the flight of Jews accelerated and Brichah helped about 250,000 survivors in Eastern Europe (under the Russians) get into Austria, Germany and Italy and then on to Palestine through elaborate smuggling networks. 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The purpose of the schools was to train and prepare DPs for resettlement in industrialized countries such as the United States, Canada, and Australia as well as Israel, which had a significant need for highly trained manpower. Some 85,000 Jews were trained in new professions and provided with the tools they needed to rebuild their lives. Today, ORT is active in over 100 countries and is the world’s largest Jewish education and vocational training NGO (Non-Governmental Organization).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1468.0,1473.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e“Gypsy” is a term often used to refer to Roma [singular \u003cbr\u003eRom; also called Romany]. Roma are an ethnic group that originated in northern India but live worldwide today, principally in Europe. This minority is made up of distinct groups called “tribes” or “nations” and includes the Roma, Sinti and Lalleri family groupings. They were called “Gypsies” because Europeans mistakenly believed they came from Egypt. As a traditionally nomadic group, Roma have often been viewed as outsiders. For centuries, Roma were scorned and persecuted across Europe. The term “Gypsy” is now seen as pejorative by some.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=1542.0,1714.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491/annotation_set/1777/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eIt is unclear what base Kristina is referring to. 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Before World War II, Warsaw was a major center of Jewish life and culture. The Warsaw Ghetto was the largest of all the Jewish ghettos in German-occupied Europe during World War II. German authorities established it in November 1940. The Jews of Warsaw and the surrounding areas were shoved into a small space in a poorer part of the city, which was then surrounded by a wall. The ghetto population at its peak was about 400,000 Jews. Starvation and illness from the over-crowded, deplorable conditions inside the Warsaw ghetto killed many. From July 22 until September 12, 1942, about 265,000 Jews were deported from Warsaw to the Treblinka extermination camp while approximately 35,000 Jews inside the ghetto were killed. Then there was relative quiet until January 1943, when a second major wave of deportation started. When German SS and police units, assisted by auxiliaries entered the ghetto, they were surprised to be met with organized armed resistance and withdrew. When they returned on April 19, 1943, stiff resistance that continued for three weeks met the Germans. By the time the better-armed Germans ended the operation on May 16, 1943, the ghetto was largely destroyed. 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When the war in Europe ended in May 1945, more than 1 million and perhaps as many as 1.5 million Jewish children were dead and tens of thousands of Romani children, 5,000-7,000 German children with physical or mental disabilities living in institutions, as well as many Polish children and children residing in German-occupied Soviet Union. Jewish and non-Jewish adolescents (13-18 years old) had a better chance of survival, as they could be used for forced labor. Many of the younger children who survived the Holocaust did so in hiding. It was not uncommon for the Germans to carry out “children’s actions” to reduce the ghetto populations. Like the elderly, children were considered unfit for work and were, therefore, useless. 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The Hebrew phrase garen pnei Moshe was translated as “horns around Moses’ face” even though the alternative meaning of garen was “glorified” or “rays of light.” The imagery was widely portrayed in art during the Middle Ages and led to the widespread idea that all Jewish had devilish horns. This stereotype and others were seized on by the Nazis to characterize Jews as sub-human or disfigured humans.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/140909/file/260491#t=4748.0,4750.0"}]}]}]}