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He attended Georgia Institute of Technology, graduating in 1959. He began working for Montag Brothers, Inc., in 1958 as a summer salesman before joining Montag as a full-time salesman in 1960, working in numerous states in the Southeast United States, including Mississippi, Virginia, West Virginia, and Georgia. He was with Montag Brothers during its many mergers and during its sale to the Mead corporation. He retired from Mead in 1996. He and his wife moved from Dayton, Ohio to Chattanooga, Tennessee in 1999 and from Chattanooga to Atlanta, Georgia in 2008. \u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eTommy Cobb begins by discussing how be first went to work for Montag Brothers and his career as a salesman for Montag’s Blue Horse brand in the Southeast. He talks about prominent individuals in the business, including the Montags and the Sugarmans. He details the history of Montag and the numerous mergers and purchases the company underwent before eventually merging with Mead Paper Company. \u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/29098"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Cobb, Tommy (personal name)","Shulhafer, Philip, 1898-1961 (personal name)","Weiss, Morton L., 1918-2010 (personal name)","Sugarman, Sam, 1890-1970 (personal name)","Sugarman, Alvin M., 1938- (personal name)","Montag, Louis Anthony, 1934- (personal name)","Guthman, Richard Aaron, Jr., 1935-2014 (personal name)","Grizzard, Lewis McDonald, 1946-1994 (personal name)","Montag, Sigmund, 1964-1948 (personal name)","Greenblatt, Sidney (personal name)","Montag, Harold (personal name)","Georgia Institute of Technology (corporate name)","Colonial Stores, Inc. (corporate name)","Montag Brothers, Inc. (corporate name)","Champion International (corporate name)","Sheaffer Pen Corporation (corporate name)","Gorham Manufacturing Company (corporate name)","Mead Paper Company (corporate name)","E.C. Glass High School (Lynchburg, Va.) (corporate name)","Scripto (corporate name)","Swingline (corporate name)","Nifty Manufacturing Co. (corporate name)","White \u0026amp; Wyckoff Manufacturing Co. (corporate name)","Western Tablet Company (corporate name)","National Pencil Co. (Atlanta, Ga.) (corporate name)","Dayton, Ohio (geographic term)","Atlanta, Georgia (geographic term)","Huntington, West Virgnia (geographic term)","Chattanooga, Tennessee (geographic term)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eTommy Cobb was interviewed by Sandy Berman on December 2, 2008.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eTommy Cobb was raised in Vicksburg, Mississippi. He attended Georgia Institute of Technology, graduating in 1959. He began working for Montag Brothers, Inc., in 1958 as a summer salesman before joining Montag as a full-time salesman in 1960, working in numerous states in the Southeast United States, including Mississippi, Virginia, West Virginia, and Georgia. He was with Montag Brothers during its many mergers and during its sale to the Mead corporation. He retired from Mead in 1996. He and his wife moved from Dayton, Ohio to Chattanooga, Tennessee in 1999 and from Chattanooga to Atlanta, Georgia in 2008.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eTommy Cobb begins by discussing how be first went to work for Montag Brothers and his career as a salesman for Montag\u0026rsquo;s Blue Horse brand in the Southeast. He talks about prominent individuals in the business, including the Montags and the Sugarmans. He details the history of Montag and the numerous mergers and purchases the company underwent before eventually merging with Mead Paper Company.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/185/003/small/Cobb_Tommy.mp4_1681408532.jpg?1681408533","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Cobb_Tommy.mp4"]},"duration":1979.978,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/185/003/small/Cobb_Tommy.mp4_1681408532.jpg?1681408533","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-thebreman.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/185/003/original/Cobb_Tommy.mp4?1681408530","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":1979.978,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Tommy Cobb [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: Today is December 2, 2008, and I am with Tommy Cobb, who has\ngraciously agreed to be interviewed for the Esther and Herbert Taylor Oral\nHistory Project of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum. I am Sandy Berman\n, the archivist for the Museum. I'd like to begin by just asking you to start\nwith the beginning of your career and how you came to work for Montag Brothers.\n\nCOBB: Okay, well, I went to Georgia Tech, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the summer of 1958, I was not\ngoing to go to summer school and I was raised in a grocery business in\nVicksburg, Mississippi. A good friend of mine, Frank Player, lived across the\nstreet from Phil Shulhafer, and Phil was vice president of personnel for\nMontag. Montag was looking to at that time get Blue Horse into the supermarket\nchannels for distribution on a direct basis. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Previously everything had gone\nthrough wholesalers and that pilot project was to be Colonial Stores in the\nSoutheast. So, Frank Player and his neighbor Phil Shulhafer, had been talking\none day and Phil told Frank he was looking for somebody. And Frank said, \"I\nthink I've got just a man who's going to take the summer off.\" Anyway, I went\nout and talked to Dick Chapman, the sales manager, and Bud Weiss, the\nPresident, and they hired me for the summer. I spent the summer of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1958\ntraveling around the Southeast, South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia,\nTennessee, setting up Blue Horse displays in the Colonial Stores for back to\nschool. Then, when I graduated from Georgia Tech in 1959, Bud Weiss called me\nand I went out and talked to Bud. He said, \"We want to hire you,\" but said, \"We\ndon't have a territory open, but we'll go ahead and hire you and give you . . .\nfind you something to do around the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"plant until a territory comes open and then\nyou can do that.\" And I said, \"Wait, wait, wait a minute. Bud, you mean if the\nfirst territory came up was in Ohio somewhere?\" He said, \"Yeah.\" I said, \"Nope,\nI'm not interested, I don't want to leave Atlanta, really. I definitely don't\nwant to leave the South.\" So, I sold mutual funds for a year and then in\nSeptember of 1960, Bud called me again and said, \"Tommy, come out here, I think\nI got an offer you can't turn down.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I went out and Bud offered me the state of\nVirginia, and I took it. And so . . . training. In the meantime, we had opened\nup . . . built the Texas plant. So, I spent several weeks in Oklahoma out\nhelping them open up that territory before I went to my territory in January. I\nstayed there until 1965, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1966. In January of 1966, Bud gave -- I was in Virginia\n-- Bud gave me another call and said, \"I think I got another offer you can't\nrefuse. You and Betty and the kids, get in the car and come down here.\" Well,\nimagine what it's like in the Virginia mountains in January. We loaded the kids\nup in the snow and came to Waynesville, North Carolina, Betty's hometown, and\nthen came in to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta. What Bud offered me that time was to move back to\nAtlanta and become national sales manager of the college end of the business. In\naddition to selling Blue Horse and all, you know, we had another line called\nCampus that we sold to the colleges. So, for two years I was national sales\nmanager of the college end of the business, and then Bud made me another offer\nto become his assistant. So, I did. For a year or so, I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was assistant to Bud\nWeiss, President of Montag. Then in the meantime, we had been sold to Champion.\nChampion had in turn sold all of Montag, and that's a whole other story, to\nWestab and Bud was not too happy with the Westab so he decided to leave us ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and\nmove to Pittsfield, Massachusetts, where he was with Gorham Silver, which\nowned, among other things, Scheaffer Pen and a competitor in the stationary\nbusiness. I stayed in Atlanta until 1984 at the plant. During that time, I was\nin marketing and mainly distribution though. In ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1984, we had to move to Dayton,\nOhio, because Mead Corporation had bought the whole Westab ideal, so in 1984 we\nmoved to Dayton, Ohio. Then I retired in 1996 and I'd been retired two weeks\nwhen I was elected Rotary District Governor for Southwest Ohio. So, when I\ncompleted that tour of duty in July of 1999, we had always planned to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"come back\nSouth. But in 1999, we really did not want to get back in Atlanta traffic. So,\nwe moved to Chattanooga [Tennessee], and we stayed in Chattanooga until April of\nthis year, 2008, and decided it was time we come back to Atlanta. We looked at a\nlot of places in Atlanta and decided on Hammond Glen. So here we are. Our oldest\nson and his ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wife and two kids live six miles from us. That makes grandma and\ngrandpa very, very happy. That's personal.\n\nBERMAN: You've opened up a lot of questions for me.\n\nCOBB: Oh, yeah.\n\nBERMAN: I want to backtrack a little bit to the beginning.\n\nCOBB: That was me. You asked me to talk about me?\n\nBERMAN: Yes. and that was wonderful.\n\nCOBB: Okay. You want to talk about how we . . .\n\nBERMAN: Now I want to talk about a few of the people you knew.\n\nCOBB: Oh, okay.\n\nBERMAN: I haven't heard Phil Shulhafer mentioned in a long time. I know he died\nrelatively ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"young. Tell me about him as an individual. What was he like?\n\nCOBB: Phil? Oh, he was, I guess, typical . . . In those day, they called them\npersonnel, now it's information resources, I think, but anyway . . .\n\nUNKNOWN: Human resources.\n\nCOBB: Human resources. 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We had a staff of about six or seven people in Atlanta,\n[who] did nothing but count those ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trademarks when they came in and get the\nprizes and send them out.\n\nBERMAN: How successful was the brand?\n\nCOBB: You name it. It was copied. One of our competitors, which we eventually\nbought, Harper Paper Company in Richmond, Virginia, tried to copy it and they\ncalled theirs Lucky Star. There were several others in the United States who\ntried to copy it. But nobody ever successfully truly copied it. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One even tried\nto copy the name. Don Metzger, who was a salesman for Write Right, which was\nheadquartered here in Atlanta, went out on his own, formed his owned company and\nhe called his company Silver Bear.\n\nBERMAN: Did he also have premiums?\n\nCOBB: Yes.\n\nBERMAN: What was Sam Sugarman like?\n\nCOBB: I can't . . . Oh, lovable. Lovable. 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One of the Alvin stories was we had this box of\nstationery and Alvin said, \"I just can't sell this stuff,\" you know, and so Sam\nto him, he said, \"What you do, Alvin, you tell him about all the success stories\nthat everybody else have had.\" So, Alvin went ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=780.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out, he was still living in\nAtlanta, went out to his Alabama territory and came back. And so, he hit his\nfirst account, came back in real happy to tell Papa Sam said, \"Sam, Papa Sam, it\nreally works. I told him about those people in North Carolina that bought all\nthe stationery and he bought all the stationery.\" But four months later he went\nback to this account and he came back and he said, \"Papa Sam, I got bad news.\"\nHe said, \"What is it, Alvin?\" He ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said, \"You know that account over in Alabama I\nsold all that stationery to and used the thing about your account in North\nCarolina buying so much.\" He said, \"I went back in this time, said he had most\nof it left and he said he told me, said, 'Alvin, take this and ship that to\nNorth Carolina, that salesman that . . . '\" Alvin really was not happy as a\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=840.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"salesman, but he loved Papa Sam, so he took the job. What Alvin really wanted to\ndo was to go to Rabbinical school. I guess one of the hardest things Alvin ever\nhad to do was go to Papa Sam and say, \"I don't want to be a salesman, Papa Sam,\nI wanna go to rabbinical school and be a rabbi.\" And Papa Sam said, \"Alvin, if\nthat's what you want to do, I'll support you.\"\n\nBERMAN: What year was that?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"COBB: About 1962, 1963.\n\nBERMAN: How well did you know Sidney Greenblatt?\n\nCOBB: Not well at all. Sid was plant manager. And also, he was . . . in my\nentire career, I was in sales, marketing, distribution, data processing,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"administration. I cleverly avoided the production floor. [indistinct 00:15:40].\nI really did not . . . I knew Sid but not like any of the rest.\n\nBERMAN: How about the Montag's themselves? Harold Montag?\n\nCOBB: When I came, Harold had already become Chairman of the Board. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Unfortunately, right\nafter Harold sold Montag to Champion, Rubin Robinson Jr. was coming home from a\nparty and had a flat tire on the road. He pulled out to the side to change a\ntire and a car came by and hit him and killed him. So, Rubin Junior. was running the\nbusiness then and Rubin Senior. had pretty well retired. That was the big . . . that\nwas a big ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"relationship and that was a huge loss when Rubin Junior was killed.\n\nBERMAN: Who were the Robinsons? I'm not sure who they were.\n\nCOBB: They owned Champion. They were the big . . . they owned Champion Paper.\n\nBERMAN: Were they an Atlanta family?\n\nCOBB: No, no, no. They were in Canton, North Carolina. Canton, North Carolina.\nThey owned controlling interest . . . Harold owned controlling interest in\nMontag. I do know this, if you want a new piece of equipment or you wanted\nanything, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you went to Harold and Harold looked in his, pulled a drawer out and\nlooked at his checkbook and said yes or no. It was that simple. He was very\npaternalistic. He would walk through the plant and it was not uncommon for him\nto go back to the . . . called them treasurer in those days . . . Eddie Wells\n[sp] was the treasurer, he handed the money, and say, \"Sam Jones out there is\ndoing a good job, give him a $0.10 an hour ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"raise.\" It was also not uncommon for\nHarold to see somebody not doing a good job and go and tap them on the shoulder\nand say, \"Go get your check, you're fired.\" You know, very paternalistic. You\ncould not do that today. But everybody loved him. He also wanted everybody to\nsave their money. Salesmen and employees, salesmen and executives did not get a\npay rise. 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He also had a great expression I liked, \"If you pay\npeanuts, you get monkeys.\"\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: That's great.\n\nCOBB: Harold lives right down the street from us when we moved back to Atlanta.\nWe lived down Nancy Creek Road. And Harold lived about a block and a half down\nthe street on Nancy Creek from us. Sam's son, Marvin, lived two doors down the\nstreet from us. Bud Weiss lived around the corner on West Paces Ferry.\n\nBERMAN: Did any of the Montags . . . 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He looked down everything, looked up, and said,\n\"Tommy, you didn't sell very many of them envelope, did you?\"\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: That's great.\n\nCOBB: And then I also had the state of West Virginia. You may want to cut this\none out, but anyway. West Virginia was kind of a devastated area, [indistinct\n00:21:54]. 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And after we showed them, everything was, \"Don't do anything\ncheaper?\" I finally got down to showing them ten cent tablets and they said,\n\"Don't you have anything cheaper?\" And I said, \"Yeah, but it comes on a roll.\"\nAnother time they came through and you had of course, you were expected to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"buy a\npackage of however it was package. Some of my stuff was wrapped three, some\ndozen, some six dozen, and all. And this fella was complaining about the\npackaging, packaging, packaging. Finally, I told him, I said, \"Why don't you buy\ntwo of those and make a mass display?\"\n\nBERMAN: That's great. 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Mead had brought in\nsome consulting firm and consulting firm came back and told them ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blue Horse was\nthe most known brand that they had, you know, but Mead . . . We were the only .\n. . We were the consumer products division and all of the Mead . . . you don't\nsee the Mead name, Mead packaging, which is here in Atlanta, headquartered, they\nmake all . . . well, can't say all of them, but a lot of the packages for\nCoca-Cola. When you pay [for] a carton of Coca-Cola, you don't know that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mead\npackaging made that container but all of our products, think of all these\nproducts that are getting out there, all over the country, with Blue Horse,\nGolden West, High Tones, Pearl on them. Mead saw all this time for Mead's name\nto be out all over here. So, they did away with all the other brands, including\nBlue Horse, and went to one brand which is Mead brand, which is still being used today.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: It must have been a real heartbreak for the children all across the\nSouth when they couldn't redeem those premiums anymore.\n\nCOBB: It was heartbreaking for some of us that were [dying loyal] Montag people,\ntoo. We had gone through three mergers, but we were still Montag people.\n\nBERMAN: Did you get letters from kids about the . . . ?\n\nCOBB: Oh, yeah. We got letters that were addressed to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blue Horse, Atlanta,\nGeorgia, Blue Horse, Terrell, Texas, and they were delivered to us. The brand\nthat well known.\n\nBERMAN: Even today, when I was leaving to come to your home, two women in the\nlobby and I said, \"I'm going to go visit someone who worked for Montag and Blue\nHorse,\" They go, \"Oh, I loved Blue Horse. I remember . . .\" everybody stops and\nremembers that product and has such fond memories. From Lewis Grizzard, who\nwrote that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"article about it years ago to . . . It was such a part of the\nSouthern culture. That must . . . does that give you a feeling of pride that you\nwere involved with that?\n\nCOBB: Oh, yeah. Yeah. It made it a lot easier being a salesman, too.\n\nBERMAN: The reason I ended up discovering you was because we purchased a coin\noperated blue horse. 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I understand they even\ntake it to some schools ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"here in Atlanta and gave all the kids a ride on it. It\nwas one more to promote the Blue Horse line.\n\nBERMAN: Do you know when it was . . . ?\n\nCOBB: No, I don't.\n\nBERMAN: . . . started?\n\nCOBB: No.\n\nBERMAN: I think that about sums it up. It gives us a great deal of background\nabout Blue Horse and some of the people that you worked with and your career. Is\nthere anything I've missed that you'd like to mention?\n\nCOBB: Do you want to trace how ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blue Horse started? I mean, we talked about where\nit started, but I mean, Montag per say and the mergers?\n\nBERMAN: Sure, that would be great.\n\nCOBB: Montag was started in 1898, and I have seen some things said there were\nfour Montag brothers. I never knew there were four. I always knew there were\nthree; Sig, Adolph, and Will. 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Sig ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gave\nScripto then to his daughter, who was Miss Monie Ferst, and gave Montag\nbasically, and I'm oversimplifying, gave Montag basically to Harold, his son.\nThen we stayed that way until Harold sold it in 1957 to Champion Paper Company.\nWell, there was another company ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that was headquartered in Dayton, Ohio, called\nWestern Tablet that had three plants in Saint Jo [Saint Joseph], Missouri;\nKalamazoo, Michigan; and Huntingdon, Pennsylvania. And when we were sold to\nChampion, West Tab, Western Tablet was a large customer of Champion, and they\ndidn't really like it that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Champion was now going into the converting business\nand they were buying from them but yet they were a competitor. While we were\nwith Champion, we built a Terrell, Texas plant, so that gave us Atlanta and\nTexas. So here was Montag wanting to go nationwide and starting by building a\nTexas plant, here was Western Tablet wanting to go nationwide with the three\nplants. 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As I mentioned earlier, where you went to Harold and Harold\nlooked in his checkbook and said yes or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no. When you got with Mead, if you\nwanted something, it was, \"Fill it out, \" and 30 pages and seven copies and [it]\nwent through ten committees and everything. In order to get it, it was a major purchase.\n\nBERMAN: I think that sums it up.\n\nUNKNOWN: Did Sig buy Atlanta Paper Company or Atlanta Pencil Company?\n\nCOBB: Atlanta Pencil. 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I have it Arthur . . . sold out to Mead.\n\nBERMAN: Thank you for interjecting.\n\nUNKNOWN: Oh sure, I just thought I'd keep it straight.\n\nCOBB: Well, I hope you're going to do some editing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/transcript/42570/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=1980.0,2010.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/annotation_set/1025","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Annotations [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/annotation_set/1025/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eSandra Katz \"Sandy\" Berman is an American archivist. A native of Cleveland, Ohio, she was the founding archivist of the Cleveland Jewish Archives. She later moved to Atlanta, Georgia, and in 1985 became the founding archivist of the Ida Pearle and Joseph Cuba Archives for Southern Jewish History at the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum. During her 28-year tenure at the Breman, she co-curated multiple exhibitions and expanded the scope of the museum to include collections from Jewish communities throughout Georgia and surrounding states. She is the interviewer for many of the oral histories that can be found in this collection.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/annotation_set/1025/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eMontag Brothers, Inc. was established in 1896 in Atlanta by brothers Sigmund, Adolph, William, Edward, and Ludwig Montag. It became one of the leaders in the stationery industry and the largest stationery and school supply manufacturer and distributor in the Southeast. The company was well-known for marketing their “Blue Horse” school supplies with an annual contest for students to receive prizes by saving wrappers with the “Blue Horse” logo. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/annotation_set/1025/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eGeorgia Institute of Technology, which is commonly referred to as Georgia Tech is a public research university and institute of technology in Atlanta. It was founded in 1885 during Reconstruction as part of the plan to build a industrial economy in the post-Civil War South.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/annotation_set/1025/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003ePhilip Emanuel Shulhafer (1898-1961) was the personnel director at Montag Brothers, Inc. during the 1950s when the firm became one the first businesses in the South to have white employees working side-by-side with black employees. He was active in the Atlanta Urban League and the Southern Regional Council, inter-racial organizations. He was president of the Atlanta Jewish Community Council, one of the predecessors that merged to form the Atlanta Jewish Federation. He attended the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School before serving in the military in World War I.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/annotation_set/1025/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eColonial Stores, Inc. was founded in 1901 and was one of the nation’s largest supermarket operators for much of the twentieth century. At one point, the company had over 500 stores operating in 11 states, including Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Maryland, Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana. By the 1970s, the company had been sold, renamed, and began to close locations.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/annotation_set/1025/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eMorton L. “Bud” Weiss (February 4, 1918-August 15, 2010) was President of Montag, Inc., a paper converting company from 1950-1968 and a vice president of Gorham Silver from 1968-1969. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/annotation_set/1025/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eChampion International was a large paper and wood products producer based since 1980 in Stamford, Commecticut. It was acquired by International Paper in 2000. From 1893 it had been based in Hamilton, Ohio, expanding to plants in Texas and Western North Carolina by the 1930s. It was the largest coated paper manufacturer in the country through World War II, but struggled in the decades after that with industrial, labor, and environmental issues. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/annotation_set/1025/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Western Tablet Company was opened in 1906 in St. Joseph, Missouri. Famous for their trademarked “Big Chief” tablets, they are also notable for the invention of the first spiral notebooks in the 1960s. 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It acquired Atlanta Paper Company in 1957.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/89329/file/185003/annotation_set/1025/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRotary International is an international service organization whose stated purpose is to bring together business and professional leaders in order to provide humanitarian services, encourage high ethical standards in all vocations, and help build goodwill and peace in the world. It is a secular organization consisting of Rotary Clubs with about 1.2 million members. 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The trial was the catalyst for a great outburst of antisemitism led by the populist Tom Watson and the center of powerful class and political interests. Frank was sent to Milledgeville State Penitentiary to await his execution. Governor John M. Slaton, believing there had been a miscarriage of justice, commuted Frank’s sentence to life in prison. This enraged a group of men who styled themselves the “Knights of Mary Phagan.” They drove to the prison, kidnapped Frank from his cell and drove him to Marietta, Georgia where they lynched him. Many years later, the murderer was revealed to be Jim Conley, who had lied in the trial, pinning it on Frank instead. 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