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Goldstein, DDS was born in Atlanta, Georgia in 1933 to parents Dr. Irving Herschel Goldstein, DDS and Helen (Mendel) Goldstein; he has one sister, Elsa (Goldstein) Goldberg. Dr. Goldstein grew up in the Garden Hills area of Atlanta and later attended both the University of Michigan and Emory University School of Dentistry. He served two years in the United States Army, then returned to Atlanta to open his dental practice in 1959.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eDr. Goldstein married Judy (Salsburg) Goldstein and they had four children: Rick Goldstein, Ken Goldstein, Kathy (Goldstein) Schwartz, and Cary Goldstein. All four are medical professionals, and three are in the field of dentistry. Dr. Goldstein’s father, Irving Goldstein, and uncle, Marvin Goldstein, were also well-respected dentists and orthodontists.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe Goldstein family has been active and connected in the Jewish community of greater Atlanta for many years. Brothers Irving and Marvin were influential both as dentists and as real estate owners; they were also active during the Civil Rights Movement in Atlanta. The Goldstein family has connections to the Levitases, the Mendels, and the Romms; the family has also been active at both Ahavath Achim and Shearith Isreal synagogues. Dr. Ronald Goldstein has been a community leader, active in the Jaycees, and a member of Alpha Omega Jewish Dental Fraternity. He developed programs to serve former mental patients and people with developmental disabilities, and is active in several organizations that provide dental services for the indigent and underprivileged.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eDr. Goldstein is widely considered the father of modern cosmetic dentistry. He wrote the first comprehensive textbook on esthetic and cosmetic dentistry, Esthetics in Dentistry: Principles, Communications, Treatment Methods in 1976. Since then, he has written multiple books, including Change Your Smile and Imaging in Esthetic Dentistry. He is currently an adjunct professor at the Medical College of Georgia, Boston University, and The University of Texas at San Antonio. He is a prolific writer and international lecturer/educator in the field of esthetic dentistry. He has been a guest on multiple television and radio shows and has been published in numerous magazines and newspapers. He is a partner in the interdisciplinary dental practice, Goldstein, Garber \u0026amp; Salama in Atlanta, and has been the recipient of numerous awards including “Outstanding Contribution to Cosmetic Dentistry” from the American Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry; “The Achievement Medal” from Alpha Omega; and “The President’s Level Lifetime Award” from Georgia Health Sciences University.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eDr. Goldstein talks about growing up in the Garden Hills neighborhood of Atlanta and his strong connection to his father, Dr. Irving Goldstein, DDS. He shares memories of times with both the Goldstein family and his wife Judy’s family, the Mendels. He describes his personal experiences with antisemitism including being bullied in elementary school and having a cross burned on his front yard in retaliation for Irving and Marvin’s involvement in the Civil Rights Movement. He also describes being part of the now well-documented institutional antisemitism at Emory University Dental School. Dr. Goldstein also describes the death of his father, Irving, and the murder of his grandfather, Avrum Meyer Goldstein. He shares his history in dentistry, including his specialization in the area of cosmetic and esthetic dentistry. He describes his involvement with the Jaycees, his efforts to help the mentally ill and developmentally disabled, and his involvement with Tomorrow’s Smiles and the Ben Massell Dental Clinic, which both serve the underprivileged.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28605"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["dentists (topical term)","dentistry (topical term)","H. Mendel \u0026amp; Company (corporate name)","Antisemitism (topical term)","Emory University (corporate name)","Atlanta Health Council (corporate name)","Peachtree Manor Hotel (corporate name)","Young Democrats of Georgia (topical term)","Ben Massell Dental Clinic (corporate name)","Tomorrow’s Smiles (corporate name)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDr. Ronald E. Goldstein, DDS interviewed by Sandy Berman on July 10th, 2019 in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eDr. Ronald E. Goldstein, DDS was born in Atlanta, Georgia in 1933 to parents Dr. Irving Herschel Goldstein, DDS and Helen (Mendel) Goldstein; he has one sister, Elsa (Goldstein) Goldberg. Dr. Goldstein grew up in the Garden Hills area of Atlanta and later attended both the University of Michigan and Emory University School of Dentistry. He served two years in the United States Army, then returned to Atlanta to open his dental practice in 1959.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eDr. Goldstein married Judy (Salsburg) Goldstein and they had four children: Rick Goldstein, Ken Goldstein, Kathy (Goldstein) Schwartz, and Cary Goldstein. All four are medical professionals, and three are in the field of dentistry. Dr. Goldstein’s father, Irving Goldstein, and uncle, Marvin Goldstein, were also well-respected dentists and orthodontists.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe Goldstein family has been active and connected in the Jewish community of greater Atlanta for many years. Brothers Irving and Marvin were influential both as dentists and as real estate owners; they were also active during the Civil Rights Movement in Atlanta. The Goldstein family has connections to the Levitases, the Mendels, and the Romms; the family has also been active at both Ahavath Achim and Shearith Isreal synagogues. Dr. Ronald Goldstein has been a community leader, active in the Jaycees, and a member of Alpha Omega Jewish Dental Fraternity. He developed programs to serve former mental patients and people with developmental disabilities, and is active in several organizations that provide dental services for the indigent and underprivileged.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eDr. Goldstein is widely considered the father of modern cosmetic dentistry. He wrote the first comprehensive textbook on esthetic and cosmetic dentistry, Esthetics in Dentistry: Principles, Communications, Treatment Methods in 1976. Since then, he has written multiple books, including Change Your Smile and Imaging in Esthetic Dentistry. He is currently an adjunct professor at the Medical College of Georgia, Boston University, and The University of Texas at San Antonio. He is a prolific writer and international lecturer/educator in the field of esthetic dentistry. He has been a guest on multiple television and radio shows and has been published in numerous magazines and newspapers. He is a partner in the interdisciplinary dental practice, Goldstein, Garber \u0026amp; Salama in Atlanta, and has been the recipient of numerous awards including “Outstanding Contribution to Cosmetic Dentistry” from the American Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry; “The Achievement Medal” from Alpha Omega; and “The President’s Level Lifetime Award” from Georgia Health Sciences University.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eDr. Goldstein talks about growing up in the Garden Hills neighborhood of Atlanta and his strong connection to his father, Dr. Irving Goldstein, DDS. He shares memories of times with both the Goldstein family and his wife Judy’s family, the Mendels. He describes his personal experiences with antisemitism including being bullied in elementary school and having a cross burned on his front yard in retaliation for Irving and Marvin’s involvement in the Civil Rights Movement. He also describes being part of the now well-documented institutional antisemitism at Emory University Dental School. Dr. Goldstein also describes the death of his father, Irving, and the murder of his grandfather, Avrum Meyer Goldstein. He shares his history in dentistry, including his specialization in the area of cosmetic and esthetic dentistry. He describes his involvement with the Jaycees, his efforts to help the mentally ill and developmentally disabled, and his involvement with Tomorrow’s Smiles and the Ben Massell Dental Clinic, which both serve the underprivileged.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/121/294/small/Goldstein_Ronald.mp4_1629143074.jpg?1629128679","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Goldstein_Ronald.mp4"]},"duration":7626.554,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/121/294/small/Goldstein_Ronald.mp4_1629143074.jpg?1629128679","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-thebreman.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/121/294/original/Goldstein_Ronald.mp4?1629128645","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":7626.554,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Goldstein, Ronald [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: My name is Sandy Berman, and I am Archivist Emeritus at the [William]\nBreman Jewish Heritage Museum, and I am here today with Dr. Ronald Goldstein who\nhas agreed to participate in the Esther and Herbert Taylor Oral History Project\nat the Breman Museum. I'm so glad that we finally, after a lot of cancellations\non all of our parts, that we were able to get together. I want to begin by\ntalking a little bit about your family. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Your uncle [Marvin Goldstein] and your\nfather [Irving] Goldstein made such an impact on the Jewish community of\nAtlanta, and really, the general city of Atlanta. If you could talk initially,\nsay who they were, their names and how they ended up here in Atlanta.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Sure. Well, there are two sides of the family, we have eight\nfamilies. On the Goldstein side, we had a huge family, about 250 when we'd go to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a reunion. And the same way, on the Mendel side -- my mother was a Mendel -- and\n[Hyman] H. Mendel and his family were also very active in the community. So,\nboth of them were involved. I'll tell you first about the Mendel family because\nthat's easy, we don't know that much. But we know that they came over and Hyman\n[Noah] Mendel, and his wife was Esther [Freedman], they came over ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"around, I\nthink it was 1860 the family started to come. They left where they were, Riga,\nLithuania, because they wanted to induct my grandfather in the army. So, he\ndecided to get married and come to this country, which he did, fortunately, so\nwe're all here. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was very active in the community, especially in the area of\ndry goods because they had H. Mendel and Compant and they used to sell to\nRich's, which was the biggest department store. During those days, they sold to\ndepartment stores, department stores couldn't order from the manufacturer or\nfrom the distributor, it would have to be from the middle man.\n\nBERMAN: So, they were the wholesaler.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: They were the wholesaler, yes. But ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"H. Mendel was very involved in the\nsynagogue, was president of the synagogue Ahavath Achim [AA] synagogue, as well\nas my father, uncle; we had about six members of our family that were presidents\nof that synagogue. So, H. Mendel had fifty-six great-grandchildren, and I think\nit was twenty grandchildren. So, a very productive family, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and my mother was\nHelen Mendel. They got married at H. Mendel's house on Briarcliff [Road] and she\nwas very close to her sisters and brothers, a big family. On the Goldstein side,\nwell, my grandfather came over -- excuse me -- my great-grandfather came over,\n\nShmuel Yankel, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Rabbi Samuel Jacob Goldstein] I have to remember that. We're\ndoing a family book from -- it was Bialystok -- it's from Zubilo, Poland to\nAtlanta and beyond, and the influence of what the family has done. But they came\nover and I had -- in fact I've given to The Breman [William Breman Museum of\nJewish History] -- the papers where my grandfather had married. He was 24 or\nsomething like that, and my grandmother was 21; ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Abraham] Avrum [Meyer]\nGoldstein [and Annie Kaufman Goldstein]. So, Shmuel Yankel was very active. He\nhad, it's interesting, he had real estate or eventually he did that. When he\ncame over, you were at a job, or you sold things little by little and he had a\nshop. So, through the years he established some monies and he was able to add\nsome real estate. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And my [Great] Aunt Ida [Goldstein] Levitas was the one who\nwould go around and collect his rent, so that was funny. But when I knew him, he\nwas always on the porch of his house reading the Torah, and surrounded -- or not\ntoo far away -- was Thomas, a black person that was part of our family. In fact,\nwe called him Thomas Goldstein because he was the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"person that was so close to my\ngreat-grandfather, and would do anything that Shmuel Yankel needed.\n\nBERMAN: What was Thomas's last name?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I knew him as Thomas Goldstein, that's the way they called him. But\nhe did have a last name [laughs], I can't remember that. It was interesting, my\ngrandfather lived on Capital Avenue and my great-grandfather -- Shmuel Yankel --\nwas living on Washington Street; ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so, it was just a couple of blocks, walking\nover from each one. What was interesting in my grandfather's house was, behind\nthe house was a whole African-American neighborhood, and he would make medicine\nto sell to them. He made medicine out of watermelon seeds and they swore by it.\nI used to, during those years, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would go play with [the children] and go in the\nhouse behind [his], I mean I loved the families and everything. They were very\nclose to all of us.\n\nBERMAN: What was the medicine supposed to do?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Make them well from whatever they had, if it was a cold, if it was a\nbelly-ache, whatever it is. And to this day, I don't know the formulation. He\nwouldn't give it away. It's like some of the things my grandmother cooked. She\ncooked a steak ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I've never had since because she had special ways to cook it\nand everything . So, I just don't know what happened to the formulation.\n\nBERMAN: So, you were related to, when you say these names it's like \"Old\nAtlanta\". You were related to the Levitases, you were related to the Mendels,\nwere you related to the Romms as well?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Well, Sol Romm. He would marry ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one of my mother's sisters, he married\nRosalee Mendel [Romm]. And we have another huge family was down in Macon\n[Georgia], and that was Sarah Mendel [Koplin] married a Koplin.\n\nBERMAN: And how are you related to Betty Jacobson?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Well, Rosalee Romm's daughter was Betty [Ann Romm] Jacobson, married\nHarvey Jacobson. So, they were cousins [of mine]. I remember ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Betty Ann growing\nup, she was older than I was and she would come over and play or whatever it\nwas, she was so close to us.\n\nBERMAN: Well, she was just so active and involved in the community, and I knew\nher very well when she was president of the Federation [Jewish Federation of\nGreater Atlanta] and very active in the beginning of the [Breman] museum itself.\nWhat can you tell me about her, just some personal information?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: She was personable, she was one of the most personable-type ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people\nthat you would know. There wasn't anybody who ever disliked Betty Ann. I mean,\nshe grew up and she was the fair-haired, beautiful girl in the family, I think\nuntil her niece came on, which was... Marilyn, her sister Marilyn [Sylvia Romm\nEhrlich] married an Ehrlich [Daniel Charles Ehrlich] Danny Erlich, and their\nchild was absolutely gorgeous. So, we had a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very interesting family, especially\non the Mendel side. But Betty Ann was constantly involved in pretty much\neverything. She was so capable of doing whatever she set to. That's why she was\npresident and chairman of different organizations and things. If you needed\nsomething done, they either called my mother, or they called Betty Ann. Before\nBetty Ann it was my mother, she was involved. Helen Mendel Goldstein was\ninvolved in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so many different organizations. But on a personal basis, if someone\ndied, my mother was the first person over there, and would handle everything, so\nthat the people could relax and take care of the visitors. But whatever it was.\nShe was very active in the USO, she was gone constantly and would have rewards\nfor that. And Brandeis, she was [active], they gave her awards. I think one of\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"awards was in her name because she was one of the first people active in the\nBrandeis book club. My father was one of the first people that was very close to\nAbe Sachar [Abram L. Sachar], who was the first president of Brandeis. So, Betty\nAnn, there wasn't an organization that didn't have some influence from her. If\nshe couldn't do it, she would suggest somebody else that could. But were they as\ngood as her , I don't know. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She was that talented.\n\nBERMAN: Let's get back to the Goldstein side. We have your great-grandfather.\nLet's continue with the generations then.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: OK, let's see. The sons were Morris, who was on the west coast, and\nIrving, and Ida [Goldstein] Levitas, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Avrum Meyer, Mary Deena [Goldstein\nSilverman] was the daughter who married Barry Silverman's father, Berril. And\nthere was one more, Rose, there was Rose. She was the other daughter and Ida\nMae, forgot about her. Ida Mae was the daughter of... 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But I've been so involved with that it's hard to know.\nIf you want to know why they left Poland, I just saw this ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"picture and I printed\nit out [shows picture to Berman] it was the pogroms in Poland in Bialystok. And\nthere were so many deaths and problems there that they got out.\n\nBERMAN: What year was that?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I think the first ones came over in the 1860s, late 60s, and my\ngreat-grandfather \"Zady\", came over later, I think it was in the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1890s. But he\nwas so active, until he got out of the activities and became so religious. He\nwas always religious. And by the way, it's very interesting why the Mendels,\nwhen they came over, how they settled in Atlanta. One of their relatives, his\nname was Morris, came but he settled in Monroe [Georgia] ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=720.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it was... I\nguess... it wasn't a suburb, it was farther down in Georgia. But they didn't go\nthere because it didn't have a synagogue and it didn't have a kosher butcher.\nSo, they stayed in Atlanta.\n\nBERMAN: So, were they members at Ahavath Achim?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes, they were very active members. 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My father and uncle, Irving [father] and Marvin [uncle], became\nvery active with Ahavath Achim, which was a Conservative synagogue, where I was\na member ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=780.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up until about four or five years ago when they decided to take our\nseats back. So, I was one of the protestors who said, it was given to us in\nperpetuity, and when they went against that I said, I can no longer be a member\nand support that. 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And I was so\nactive in writing and lecturing and teaching and practice, I had really no time\nto do that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=840.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: Tell me about your synagogue involvement when you were young, Hebrew\nSchool, and...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes, Rabbi Epstein. My father and mother were very close to Reva and\nRabbi Epstein. She was one of the closest friends to my mother. I remember going\nto their house to dinner one night, and my mother says \"Now, you eat everything\nthat she's going to serve,\" because I don't like ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"onions and garlic, I have\ntrouble with that. And sure enough she served herring with onions and that was\nthe first thing. And my mother stared at me [smiles and whispers] \"Go on, don't\nspit anything out, you eat it all.\" And I mean, I must have been red in the face\nbecause I had to swallow that. I was dying that night, but I was a good boy.\n\nBERMAN: What can you tell me about Rabbi Epstein? A lot of people have mixed\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"feelings about him...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Well, there were mixed emotions about him because he was stringent.\nHe was very, very conservative and he believed in tradition - the way it should\nbe - and if you had... By the way, he had eyes that could penetrate. He was on\nthe bimah and we were sitting in row \"J\". Now, that's a good distance from\nthere. And I had to be careful if I dozed off because I didn't want my head to\ngo like that [head bobs down in front of him], so I would put my hand up [on the\nside of his face] ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and he would look right at me and shake his finger sometimes.\nHe knew [laughs]. He would say, \"Ronald, how'd you enjoy my lecture? What was\nyour dream like?\"\n\nBERMAN: What did your father think of him? Do you remember?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Oh, he loved him. Absolutely love, love, loved him. 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And I knew you had an encyclopedia\non your desk, like a Webster's, definitions of words and everything. We came\nback to your bedroom to get it and Ronald, when I opened it up, it had pictures\nof naked ladies in there.\" I said, \"That's the German Encyclopedia of Sex.\"\n\n BERMAN:\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Well, Rabbi couldn't understand that. So, I said, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I'm so sorry,\nDad.\" Because it had a cover of a Webster's Encyclopedia on it because that was\nteenage days. And I forgot that it was there in college, thrown it away. Of\ncourse, it's probably a valuable book which he got rid of.\n\nBERMAN: That's a great story.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Rabbi Epstein was very, very strict, even when we went to Hebrew\nSchool, went to Sunday School. And he was so close to the family, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but still, he\nwas tough on me, and I deserved it. I was a renegade when I was growing up.\n\nBERMAN: I interviewed him late in his life. I interviewed him a few times, but\nthe last interview I did with him his one regret, he mentioned, was that unlike\nRabbi Rothschild, he did not get involved in the Civil Rights Movement. He did\nnot get involved in the greater community, like ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the rabbi at The Temple did. Why\ndo you think he didn't want to do that?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: That's a very good question. I wasn't aware of that, because my whole\nlife was integration. I'll tell you a story that's interesting. 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I was a fast runner, and I had to be, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because they would chase me\nalmost to my house every afternoon, because I was Jewish. So, I made friends\nwith one of the black boys there, because there was a black neighborhood in\nBuckhead. And I would walk around in it, I was friends with the family, I would\nbe there for dinner and everything. My mother never knew they were black. I\nmean, I never knew ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the difference. It was just a boy that I liked and they were\na nice family. Even though I went over for dinner one night and I asked him, my\nfriend, \"What are we having for dinner tonight?\". He said, \"You see my Dad over\nthere?\" and his dad was over there with a rifle. He says, \"He's gonna kill some\nsquirrels.\" And that's what we had for dinner. It was the smallest little\nchicken I ever had you had to get a lot of them to get something.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: So, that was in Buckhead that he went out and shot some squirrels?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Oh yes. It was where HiFi Buys, the back of HiFi Buys, it was the\nfirst house over, that they owned. But I remember coming home one afternoon with\nhim and I was going up the driveway and my mother came out, and she was shocked\nthat he was black. \"This is your friend?\" Because she was afraid the neighbors\nwould just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be up in arms. So, I had to end my relationship, having him come over\nto our place. I would still go over and be friendly with him, though.\n\nBERMAN: How did you feel about that?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I felt horrible. I didn't understand what was the difference. I mean,\nI didn't see black or white, I just saw a person. And that's the way I grew up.\n\nBERMAN: Let's talk a little bit about, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just to back track just a little... how\nmany other siblings were there besides Marvin and Irving?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: There were four sisters, Ida, Bessie, Lena, and Janette, four\nsisters. 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But I know that he really loved helping people and he\nalso wanted -- as the people growing up during that time -- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you wanted\ncredibility, you wanted to make something of your life and you wanted to make\nmore than what your parents had, if you could. So, whatever it took, that's what\nthey did. 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She taught down on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Crew Street or Washington Street, there was one of\nthe schools, and I went there one day to see her teach. She was one of the\nfunniest people. She was hysterical, she was just funny, the way she talked the\nway she acted, everything. And she taught that way. Her students absolutely\nloved her. She won the Teacher of the Year and all that. So, that's something\nthat was instilled upon them. 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In fact, when I went to\nschool, it was Emory.\n\nBERMAN: Were there any restrictions, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at that point in time, as to how many\nJewish young men could go to that dental school?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Well, we didn't know, but there were quota systems that were in\ndentistry. In fact, I was reading in Perry Brickman's excellent book\n[Extracted], about the restrictions. They went up to the American Dental\nAssociation. 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I rode around and around and I couldn't find a place to park.\nAnd finally, I saw a little dirt ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"area, like a little small park, pulled in and\nran in to the building, because the Dean was supposed to address us. Well, we\nsat there and sat there and finally the Dean comes in, about half hour or\nthirty-five minutes late, and he says, \"Who has a red Ford convertible with a\ntire on the back?\" And I raised my hand, and he said, \"You sir, are parking in\nmy place, and that's why I was late today.\" I parked in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Dean's spot, I\ndidn't see the sign. So, that started it, and it didn't finish until I graduated\ndental school.\n\nBERMAN: There's been so much, because of what Perry uncovered, of the trauma\nthat all of you really experienced ...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: It was horrible.\n\nBERMAN: ...going to dental school then. Can we just spend a little bit of time\ntalking about the Dean, [John E.] Buhler, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and some of the incidents that\nhappened there. I know that it's painful for you, as it is for some others Jews.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I can see it objectively today, but it was painful when it happened,\nand it was painful for everybody else.\n\nBERMAN: When did Buhler get there?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Well, I think it was -- Perry will know the details -- but I think it\nwas shortly after 1948. I went to school from 1953 to 1957, so he had been\nthere. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember one day that Bucky Blum was sitting across from me and they\nwere giving him bad grades in everything.\n\nBERMAN: What was his real name?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: He became a leading physician who just died. All I know is Bucky.\nPerry would know what his real name is because I think they are related. 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So, as he was going down, his back was turned to me, and I told\nBucky, \"Let me see, switch dental forms,\" and I took his and then he had mine.\nI'd just gotten a B and he'd gotten a flunking grade ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on it. So, we knew it was\njust overt antisemitism. It was horrible.\n\nBERMAN: Did you feel like you had any recourse? Could you go to anybody to talk\nabout it?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Well, I went to my dad, and Marvin and they were the most active ones\nin the dental community that realized what was going on. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it took a while\nbefore the data was coming out that the flunk out rate, or repeat rate, was 65%\nJewish students, versus about 15% non-Jewish students. So, they got the facts\nand they were all published. But it was incident after incident when I knew that\nsome of my Jewish colleagues there, they would take their teeth -- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, I saw\nsome of them, they weren't bad carvings -- they were acceptable, and they would\nthrow them out. They would throw them over their shoulder and say, \"That's a\ntooth, it's flying out of here?\" So, it was a horribly depressing time.\n\nBERMAN: Can you describe Dean Buhler, what did he look like, how did he act?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: He was a nice-looking man, very stern. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Perry's book, and Perry's\naction was really based in part, on my quote. I was called in to his [Buhler's]\noffice when I was a freshman, at the end of the freshman year, he called me in\nand he says, \"Goldstein,\" he says \"I flunked nineteen of your classmates. 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They called all these ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2100.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people back in who flunked and this and\nthat to sincerely apologize for what had happened. It wasn't them, but it was\npeople that the university kept on staff, and it went all the way to the top.\nSo, the antisemitism was something that was gross, and it was lead right from\nthe top.\n\nBERMAN: I want to get back now to your father and your uncle again. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You\nmentioned that you didn't see color. That you were friendly with the [black\nboy]. That must have come from your family ...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Sure. My father especially.\n\nBERMAN: Let's talk a little bit about that. Living in the Deep South, I've\ninterviewed a lot of folks and a lot of individuals just say, \"Well, that's just\nthe way it was.\" And they didn't do anything to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"change the situation. Why do you\nthink your father cared so much?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: My father was the sweetest man I've ever known. I never knew him to\nhate anyone. I knew of one person who thought that my dDad did, and it was just\nopposite, he didn't hate anyone. He tried ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to make everyone better. He was the\nfirst dentist that I know, to treat black patients here, long before [anyone\nelse]. And at first, they had to go into his private office, they would have to\ngo in a back way, and then he said -- no more -- and he made it integrated. He\nlost patients because of that.\n\nBERMAN: Do you know what year that might have been?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOLDSTEIN: Well, it was before... I remember, my dad would get me to come down\non Saturday mornings and be with him at the office and the way he got me, he\nwould say, \"After I finish, we'll go to lunch,\" Leb's is where we would go many\ntimes, \"and afterwards, we'll go shopping.\" And he'd always take me to a sale,\nMuses, John Gerald's, wherever was the top stores. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I loved that because I'd\nalways get something to buy. But also, I remember, one of his receptionists was\nBernice Littman. And Bernice would type up -- I was writing, as a teenager, I\nwould write mysteries -- and she would type them up down there. So, I was a\nwriter early on.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: So, do you have a sense of what year that might have been?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I was probably about 14. I'm 85 now, and I was born in 1933. I know\nit's before I went to Michigan.\n\nBERMAN: So, that was very forward thinking to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"see black patients. Where does\nthat come from?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I think it came from the relationship that Shmuel Yankel, my\ngreat-grandfather, had with Thomas. And my dad, growing up on Capital Avenue,\nand the relationship that my grandfather had -- Avrum Meyer -- with all of the\nblack people that lived in a whole community ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just one street back. And we would\ngo down in the yard and there were no barriers, you'd just walk up into them.\nSo, this was my dad too. He grew up that way, and Marvin did too. That's why\nMarvin, I think, he was so active... we treated, I treated Daddy King -- Martin\nLuther King's father, that's another story. But ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marvin became vice president of\nthe King Center. The only time I met Martin Luther King, the son, was when I was\nat Marvin's, invited over to a party at his house and he took me with him and\nSidney Poitier was there with his wife. Other celebrities were there, but Rev.\nKing came over and shook my hand, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2400.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because of Marvin, and he was so kind. So was\nMrs. King, Coretta.\n\nBERMAN: It's an interesting story that they were so forward thinking, and yet\nyou were told that your little friend could not come to your house anymore\nbecause of what the neighbors would say. Was that out of fear of what ...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: That was my mother. My mother was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"brought up in a strict, I would\nsay, conservative house. And we were the only Jewish family in that neighborhood\nfor a long time. Others moved in, but we were one of the first to move onto Pine\nTree Drive in Garden Hills. It was a very white community and you would never\nsee, there were never any blacks there. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I probably brought in the first one,\nthat little boy, poor thing. I cried, I went back home to him. But Dad was just\nthe opposite.\n\nBERMAN: I'm just imagining that the fear though, that your mother would have,\nyou were already being chased home from school by ...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Antisemites.\n\nBERMAN: Right. So, to have brought a black child into this neighborhood, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there\nhad to be some fear involved of what others would think of ...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Of her family, yes.\n\nBERMAN: Of her family.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes. I'm sure that that's why she did what she did. But we were very\nclose to the maids and the nurses that came up. They were like family.\n\nBERMAN: But that even says more about how brave your father was.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes.\n\nBERMAN: Because it wasn't a time to be able to do those ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sorts of things. So,\ntell me about some of his other activities, and we can get into the hotels and...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Sure. I can remember, he had a practice and some of the black\npatients were reverends, they were high up in the African-American community.\nAnd he was very friendly with them. After all, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he also started one of the dental\nclinics at Grady Hospital and got B'nai B'rith to sponsor the dental clinic. And\nwhen he was down there volunteering, a lot of the patients were black. That's\nwhat you had to treat. It would do different days sometimes, but that was the\nhistory of it. When I came out of dental school I went to the Army for two years\nand I came back in... 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When he retired, he had a huge frontpage editorial there in his\nnewspaper, and he said he owed his success in the newspaper business to, because\nof his smile. That changed his attitude, and he talked about me at that time.\nSo, it was no question who was there, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but they were leading people sometimes.\n\nBERMAN: So, the waiting room in your dad's office was integrated.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes.\n\nBERMAN: And how did the whites, did some white patients object to that?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes, and some stopped coming.\n\nBERMAN: Do you remember a specific incident?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: No, no. Dad wouldn't talk about it. 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So, before I'd go in my dad's office, he had a little attorney office,\nright in the Grant building on the fifth floor, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2760.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would look in to see if he\nwas there. And he'd say, \"Ronnie, come on in here,\" and I'd sit on his lap and\nwe'd look at things. And he'd say, \"Alright, we're going to a game this\nSaturday, Georgia Tech.\" And he would have tickets on the 50-yard line. So,\nfirst the Varsity, he'd always take me to the Varsity and everybody knew the\nMayor, so that was wonderful. Then he would take me down to [the game] and we'd\nsit there together. So, we were very, very close. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2790.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I treated him later, when I\ncame back into practice, came to practice. The only time we ever disagreed on\nanything was when I was head of the fluoridation -- I formed Atlanta Health\nCouncil -- and the first thing we did was to get fluoridation for the city of\nAtlanta. He was the opposition. So, we agreed to disagree on that.\n\nBERMAN: Why was he opposed?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: They got to him first.\n\nBERMAN: Who?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: The anti-flouridationists.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: And who were they?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: That's a very good question, because I treated Daddy King, Martin\nLuther's father, and I went to him and I said, \"Daddy King, I need you to get\nbehind us here because the black kids in the city, they really need the\nfluoride.\" The rampant decay was horrible. And he says \"Ronnie, I can't,\" and I\nsaid, \"Why not?\" and he says, \"Because the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2850.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mayor is against it, and do you know\nwhat the mayor has done against segregationists, and how our city has been\nintegrated?\" He says, \"I can't go against him,\" he says, \"But you're right, I'm\na hundred percent with you, we need it.\"\n\nBERMAN: Why was the mayor against it?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: As I say, they got to him first and talked about the poison in the\nwater ...\n\nBERMAN: Who was this, who were these [people]. Kind of like the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anti-vaccination\npeople of today?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Not necessarily that. I treat a very prominent family in the city and\nyesterday, when we were cleaning up... I've got the computer system, I'm trying\nto update everything we've got here. So, we were going through some of my files\nback there, and I said, \"Golly, this is anti-flouridation. Why do you have\nthat?\" That's what my assistant said, and I said, \"Well, it's a long story, but\nthis ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"patient of mine whose absolutely lovely, but there is no way you can\nconvince her that fluoride is the right thing.\" She brought me a whole folder,\nand said, \"I want you to read this.\" Of course, I read it, and it's not\nscientifically, it's bad science. Bad science means that researchers, quote,\n\"Can prove anything they want.\" They can say all ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kinds of things, which today,\nit's just common to hear all kind of facts that aren't necessarily true. But\nthat's what happened. They filled him [the mayor] with the idea that fluoride is\npoison. Because, if you give it in huge amounts, it can be, but so can other\nthings as well. So, I had to defeat it, and I did win eventually.\n\nBERMAN: How did you win?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I formed the Atlanta Health Council and I got leading people behind\nit. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We worked very hard with organizations and with media, I had a lot of media\nattention. In fact, one of the things I wanted, which helped considerably, I\nwent to Jack Nelson who was the Pulitzer Prize [winning reporter] for the\nAtlanta Journal-Constitution, who won because of his series on mental health.\nSo, I called him and I said, \"Jack, would you mind doing a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"series on\nfluoridation. We need it for the city,\" and I went on to tell him why, etc. etc.\nHe said, \"I'll tell you what, I'll do your series if you'll do something for\nme.\" I said, \"What?\" He says, \"Will you go with me this Saturday and drive with\nme down to Milledgeville State Hospital.\" I said, \"Wait a minute, all I have to\ndo is drive down with you?\" He says, \"That's right.\" So, I did. And we went into\nthe superintendent's office, Ervel McKennon, and he said, \"Dr. Goldstein, I want\nyou to know ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that thirteen thousand people here at the hospital, half of them\nwould not have been here, had they enjoyed and loved the work they were doing.\"\nThat meant that people just couldn't get an enjoyment out of what they were\ndoing, a purpose or passion for what they were doing, which was so sad. And then\nthe second thing he said was, \"I want you to go through here and meet people, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go\nthrough the hospital.\" And I came back at the end, after about two hours, and I\nsaid, \"Dr. Mckennon, I met so many people here. Why are they still here?\" I mean\nthey were just terrific. He says, \"That's why you're here.\" He says, \"Because we\ncan't get jobs for them. People will not hire former mental patients, they are\nafraid to.\" So, I said, \"Well, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll help do something.\" Because I was the head\nof the Health Committee for the Jaycees, and I came back in the car with Jack\nNelson and I said, \"I'll work on it, and I'll let you know what we can do.\"\nThat's Saturday. Sunday morning, around 10:30, Judy calls me -- I was outside\nour apartment house, we were in Buckhead -- and she says, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Ronnie, the Governor\nis on the phone.\" I said, \"Governor Vandiver?\" I said, \"You're kidding.\" She\nsays, \"No, come talk.\" I said, \"What does he want with me?\" so I went in to\ntalk. I said, \"Governor, how are you?\" He says, \"I'm fine, Dr. Goldstein. I'm\ncalling a press conference in the morning at the capitol, and I want you there\nat 10:00 o'clock.\" I said, \"Why?\" He says, \"We're going to announce your program\nto help former mental patients find jobs.\" I said, \"Governor, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's going to take\nme too...\" He stopped me. He says, \"Dr. Goldstein, I will see you at 10:00\no'clock in my office.\" I said, \"I have patients!\" He said, \"Cancel them,\" and\nhung up the phone.\n\nBERMAN: What year was that?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Probably 1962, I think it was that.\n\nBERMAN: That is an unbelievable story.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I was there the next morning ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and, sure enough... I'd worked all\nnight, I didn't sleep, I had a plan worked out to have a master committee that\nwould be [made up of] presidents of corporations or businesses in Atlanta, if we\ncould get them. That's what I wanted, and, he announced that and I said, fine,\nand I went back to the office. And the receptionist said, \"What did you do?\" I\nsaid, \"What do you mean, what did I do?\" She says, \"The phone has been ringing\noff the hook here.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I said, \"Why?\" She says, \"These are presidents of companies\nwho want to be on your committee.\" And we formed a committee of about twenty-two\nleading businessmen. They said, we're hiring, we're hiring, we're hiring. All of\nthem agreed to do that. And vocational rehabilitation could not get a program to\nhire former mental patients. This broke the barrier, and the program in Georgia\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"became so successful, it became the program for the rest of the country. It was\none of the most successful programs in their history.\n\nBERMAN: That's amazing. So, you were very involved with the Jaycees.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes, well, I came back to the office in 1959 after I finished the\nArmy and I went into the office. But when you first go into practice, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you have\ntime on your hands, you're not that busy. So, Dad said, \"I've met the president\nof the Georgia Jaycees, he came in for a visit.\" And he said, \"I told him about\nyou and he says, well, we sure would like to have a young doctor in the\nJaycees.\" You can only be there until you're thirty-five. So, he says, \"I'm\ngoing to call him, or you call him, because he knows about you.\" I called him\nand he said, \"We're going to bring you right in.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have to get something.\n\nBERMAN: So, we were discussing your involvement with the Jaycees and getting\ninvolved with the mental health initiative. So, let's continue from there.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: When I came in to join the Jaycees, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Atlanta Junior Chamber of\nCommerce was what it was called. They became the Jaycees, changed the name\nlater. But one of the things they gave me was a book called Young Men Can Change\nthe World [holds up the book] and it's full of stories of Junior Chamber of\nCommerce people, throughout, in every chapter, who've done things. And it was\none of the most inspiring books, it was, I read it cover to cover. It motivated\nme, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3360.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because I've always thought big. When I used to dream, I would dream of\nHollywood productions [laughs]. There's a funny story there. Because I thought I\nwould be a great director, and I would see these things in color, so I've always\nthought big. And these were people who really did big things in business and\nother areas, and some things in health. But I had to make my mark.\n\nBERMAN: So, you continued with the mental health initiative...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOLDSTEIN: Yes, what happened was, when we finished the programming of these\nforming jobs and things, I went to the state director of public health. Because\nthere were other projects that people would call me, and they would say, \"You\nwere so successful in doing this, can you do this? We need halfway houses for\nthe former mental patients.\" Well, we established these, and other things were,\nI worked with ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"psychiatrists, also, who were on the committee, and they said, \"We\nneed a ward.\" It was supposed to be established at Grady Hospital, a mental\nhealth ward, but it was idle. And I found out there was space there up on the\ntop floor, for this mental health clinic. So, I snuck in to Grady and went up\nthere and I saw this whole floor, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and they were using it for storage. So, I went\nto my friends -- by then I was known at the newspapers because of flouridation\n-- and I said, \"I need a photographer to go with me. I think we've got a hot\nstory for you.\" And I told them what it was. We went down there, and we snuck up\nto the floor, and from the time that I'd seen before to this time, we looked in\none room and there was Santa Clause in there; this big model of Santa Clause\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sitting in this room. So, that was the picture that we got. The next day it was\na front-page story, a whole mental health ward is here and this is what they're\nusing it for, storage. Well, it got such public outcry. The State Mental Health\nDirector hated me. He thought I was too aggressive, too big for my britches, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and\nhe said, \"You're going to get that over my dead body.\" And I said, \"I hope it\nwon't have to come to that, but we're going to get that ward open and we're\ngoing to do it because of public pressure on you.\" Which was what happened, and\nhe had to do it, and he just hated me. Because I had such public support then,\nfor that. There were other things that we did in the area of mental health. And\nwe finally combined it with mental health and mental retardation ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and formed\nanother committee. These were made up of psychiatrists and people who could\nhelp, national people. I got Mrs. Winthrop Rockefeller and I got Ms. Du Pont.\nThey never talked to each other because you've got Republicans and Democrats,\nand all their needs were opposite. So, I said, why don't we combine a program.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gene Oberdorfer was very helpful to me, he was Don Oberdorfer's brother. And\nGene was excellent because he was interested in mental retardation, and I was\nworking pretty much in mental health, so we put it together and I had programs.\nAnd what I did was, to create the program -- why it was so successful in getting\njobs -- I had negative advertising. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3600.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I said, all the positive attitudes were\nnever successful. All these adds, \"You should help, you should help, you should\nhelp.\" So, I came up with \"Doesn't anyone care about former mental patients?\"\n\"Aren't you ashamed?\" that was another brochure we had. So, it got people to\nthink, yes, maybe something should be done to help people. So, it became so\nsuccessful ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3630.0,3660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we were able to get it to the point where we needed to kick it off.\nBecause, the Jaycees have about five thousand chapters all over the country, and\nwe had been so successful in Georgia, this was ready to go national. And we\nwanted to get the President to kick it off. President Kennedy was very\nsupportive when we put mental retardation in, because of his sister. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, we were\ngoing to Washington [DC] to meet with Sargent Shriver and I was waiting for\nPresident Kennedy and the group to come back from Texas in his room. Watching\ntelevision in my room. I wasn't that day, I was speaking to the National\nAssociation of Mental Health to tell them about our program and what we had\ndone, etc., when someone came up to me when I was at the dais talking, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tapped me\non the shoulder and whispered, \"Dr. Goldstein, you have to tell the group\n\nthe President has just been assassinated.\" And I... that's what I had to tell\nthem. It was unbelievable. I had just been talking about how deranged, we should\ncatch those people earlier, we have to see them in school. I wanted to get\nprograms in early school. To this day it hasn't been done, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but that's what I\nfelt like. There are symptoms in kids. I was bullied when I was in grammar\nschool and bullied in high school too. So, you can find out about these things\nwhen you're young. And of course, we had that happen. So, I called up and told\nJohn Thorpe, who was head of the Kennedy Foundation, I want to go back to\nAtlanta. I was just so, so, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3750.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sick about this. He says, \"Don't go anywhere,\" he\nsays, \"Sargent Shriver has already called us.\" He's the President's\nbrother-in-law, and he was the head of the Peace Corps. He said, \"He's coming\nback here tomorrow afternoon and wants to meet you at 3:00 o'clock.\" I said,\n\"How can he possibly do that when he's in charge of the President's funeral and\nall the arrangements?\" He said, \"Dr. Goldstein, this project was so important,\nwhat you can do, that President Kennedy wanted this more than anything. Because\nit would be the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3780.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"first time we could get it across the country, for mental health\nand mental retardation.\" So, he says, \"Stay in your room.\" So, I'm there and\nstill in the hotel when Jack Ruby comes and kills [Lee Harvey Oswald]. It was\njust like a fantasy going on. I couldn't believe it. So, we met the next day, at\n3:00 o'clock at the white House, and he said, \"You're going to come back in\nthree months and President Johnson -- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I've already talked to him -- he's going\nto announce your program and we'll kick it off in three months.\" There's a\npicture in my office, and you have one too, where in three months I was back\nthere, President Johnson, Sargent Shriver and Uni Shriver, the President's\nsister. But I get there early, and they put me in the Rose Garden. So, I'm just\nwalking around and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3840.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"looking through the window and it's the President's office.\nThere's his desk and everything, nobody's in there. Well, I went in through a\ndoor that goes there, I sat in the President's chair [laughs]. I mean, the\nSecret Service would get me out of there [laughs], but there was nobody. And I\njust smiled and looked around and thought everything's so nice. We didn't have\nselfies then and there wasn't anything to do. But that was the thrill. Of\ncourse, I went back outside, and was just waiting and then it happened. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it\nbecame the most successful program in the history. And this is the new version\nof that book [holds up \"Young Men Can Change the World\"] and I'm in it, there's\na whole chapter talking about it.\n\nBERMAN: Are you still involved?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: No, you have to get out of the Jaycees at thirty-five.8\n\nBERMAN: No, but with mental health and ...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I was vice president of the State Association of Mental Health. I had\ndone so many things public, that my dad took me into his office and he says,\n\"Ronnie, you've got a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whole program, internationally,\" then it went\ninternational. He says, \"When are you going to come back to dentistry?\" Because\nI was taking about a quarter of my time to thirty-percent time out lecturing,\ngoing all over the state, all over the country really. And he said, \"You've done\nthat, you've proven yourself. But your peers are getting ahead of you.\" He says,\n\"Do you want just to be an ordinary dentist, or do you want to do something with\nyour life and your career?\" And I said, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3930.0,3960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I'll take a month off.\" He says, \"No,\ntake three months. Take your time and then come back in and tell me what you\nwant to do in the dental profession.\" And I thought about it, and I came back in\nthree months later and I said, \"I know what I want to do now.\" He says, \"What's\nthat?\" \"I want to work in esthetic dentistry.\" He says, \"Ronnie, every dentist\ndoes esthetics in dentistry. That's nothing.\" I said, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3960.0,3990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"No, they don't understand\nwhat patients want. All they want to do is the systematic system and how people\nchew and do all of those things. But esthetics is not something. I want to make\nit special. He said, \"OK. I'll support whatever you want to do.\" I said, \"Thank\nyou, because the first thing I want to do ...\" There were six dentists that were\nteaching areas, crowns and things like that. And I wanted to take courses from\nall of them. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=3990.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He said, \"I'll support you, do what you have to do.\" And that's\nwhat I did. And once I saw what they were doing, and what I was doing, I knew\nthat I had something. And I did a two-year study with the Polaroid company on\nthe motivation for esthetics, was it just something that people want. So, I went\nto the Polaroid company and I said, \"I want to survey the Miss Atlanta\ncontestant.\" For two years, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4020.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well, one year. And there were thirty contestants\nand we had a survey. I did it with a psychologist at Emory University,\nLancaster, she was great. We had a survey and asked what they thought about\ntheir smile. Were they happy with their smile? And about ninety percent said,\nnot really. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4050.0,4080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the next question was, why didn't you go to your dentist to\nchange it? And the answers were, my dentist thought I was too vain, my dentist\nthought that wasn't important, my dentist thought I should be ashamed. All these\nanswers. And I couldn't believe that. And then I did one more thing. I did exams\non the girls, and I thought that at least almost ninety percent of them could\nhave been helped with just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4080.0,4110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"cosmetic contouring, reshaping of the teeth to make\nthem look straighter, they didn't have to go to orthodontics. So, I said, \"I\ncan't understand, that made it a flake [fluke], it's just something... let's do\nit one more year.\" And I got them to do it again, because they took all the\npictures. It was the exact same percentages. And that's what we published. It\nwas the first published study showing motivation for esthetics, and why dentists\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4110.0,4140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had to be more concerned about smiles. Because if you're going to the most\nbeautiful people, who have the greatest smiles, what about the others. So, if\nthese people are dissatisfied, with our profession, that we weren't addressing\ntheir concerns, what about the rest? So, that's when I outlined a program. I\nwould have to spend a lot of time in doing this and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4140.0,4170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"eventually, in 1976 I formed\nthe first academy devoted to esthetic dentistry and I brought all the\ndisciplines in dentistry, from plastic surgery to psychology to just all the\ndisciplines and the specialties of dentistry. It was the most successful meeting\nin the history of cosmetic and esthetic dentistry. Because each one, I wouldn't\nlet them come and give their natural talks -- they were all famous dentists -- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4170.0,4200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I\nwanted them to think about what they do to help people look better, and that's\nwhat they did. It was amazing, and that was the impetus. When I saw that, and it\nwas such a great meeting, I started to work on a text book. There was no text\nbook that had the complete story and my result was the first ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4200.0,4230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"comprehensive book\non esthetic dentistry with all these disciplines. And it's called Esthetics in\nDentistry and it went over in twelve countries and languages and translations,\neverything. So, that was one thing. And then the academy was so successful, I\njust got the book from the European academy of esthetic dentistry. We have about\nforty countries now, so I have an interest in forming the European academy. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4230.0,4260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So,\nlittle by little, we got the profession to change, and now, esthetics became one\nof the most popular reasons why people go to the dentist, more than any other\nreason today, still. Why they have their teeth cleaned, why they have everything\ndone. So, not everybody has to look beautiful. I write for Southern Seasons\nmagazine and I write about beauty -- twice a year now, I used to do it every\nyear but it got to be too much for me -- but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4260.0,4290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I write that we're concerned about\nbeauty and looking better. But you don't have to look better. You don't have to\nlook this one way. You can have crooked teeth if you want to, if that's your\nconcept. But for those that do want to change, we have answers, and that's what\nI do.\n\nBERMAN: How long were you in practice.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I've been in practice since ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4290.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1959, so this year is sixty years.\n\nBERMAN: And where's your office?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: It's in Galleria now. We were at West Paces Ferry where we built a\nbuilding behind a shopping center there. And I wanted to double the size, but\nthey wouldn't let us do it, and I'm so pleased. Sandra Dare was head of the\nzoning committee at the time, and she turned us down. I wasn't very happy about\nthat. But ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4320.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she's playing mahjong with my wife, Judy...\n\n BERMAN:\n\nGOLDSTEIN: ...and I said, \"Sandra, I owe you a world of thanks.\" She says,\n\"Why?\" I said, \"Because you turned us down and that was the best thing you ever\ndid.\" Because then we moved to Galleria, where we more than doubled our size. We\nhave about fourteen thousand square feet now. And we take three quarters of a\nfloor, where we have a teaching center, we have DentalXP, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4350.0,4380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we have it all. I'm\njust, well, here it is, this month's Dentistry Today and I'm still, at 85,\nwriting articles.\n\nBERMAN: Fantastic.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I'm still active, because I have a passion for what I do.\n\nBERMAN: I want to backtrack a little bit, because there was one aspect of your\nuncle and your father's story that we didn't discuss, that I really wanted you\nto reflect on, and that's the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4380.0,4410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Peachtree Manor Hotel and integrating the hotel\nand how that all came about. If you could speak a little bit about that.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes. My dad and a group, Sol Golden, Arnall Golden Gregory, Governor\nArnall, and Sidney Cavalier, a cousin, and Marvin and my dad were the original\ngroup that bought an apartment house at Peachtree [Street] and Sixth Street.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4410.0,4440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They decided to convert it to a hotel. So, my mother did the decoration, one\nroom at a time. And little by little, floor by floor, it was converted into,\nactually the first hotel that opened up after the war. That's where Dad's office\nbecame too. Well, it was a very successful hotel, business hotel. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4440.0,4470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What provoked\na change was when the Mayor -- this was Ivan Allen, who called -- at this time,\ncalled my dad, Marvin, to help get baseball to Atlanta. Because, Jackie Robinson\nwould not play here, unless he could stay at an integrated hotel. He didn't want\nto have to go to other hotels. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4470.0,4500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, they met, and decided that there's no\nquestion that we're going to lose a lot of business, but it's the right thing to\ndo. And that's what they did. During the process of doing that, the Ku Klux Klan\nburned a cross on our lawn. It's interesting, because Peachtree Manor Hotel was,\nit wasn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4500.0,4530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"known what was being done until it was done. But when they found out,\nthey sent hate letters, death threats to my dad ...\n\nBERMAN: What year was this?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Probably nineteen... what year was it when the Braves came, this was\nbefore. It was before when the Braves came, because they had to have\ndemonstration games and things like that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4530.0,4560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was a frightening time, scared time\nbecause I was about, I guess I was about thirteen or fourteen years old and to\nhave them burn a cross on your front lawn is awful.\n\nBERMAN: What did you do, as a family, when you saw that?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Dad wasn't afraid. He said, \"Ronnie, we'll get through it, it's OK.\"\nI was frightened for a lot of things, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4560.0,4590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because I had an incident when... my dad\nand mother would go to the Alpha Omega convention -- dental fraternity, Jewish\ndental fraternity -- my Dad was president, Marvin became president, I became\npresident eventually. But they would go every year, it was around Christmastime.\nAnd they left me, this one year, with Grandpa Goldstein. So, there was Mama\nGoldstein, and there wasn't anyone else in the house. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4590.0,4620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was a huge house, big\ntop floor. They were in the bedroom on the corner and I was in one of the\nbedrooms way down.\n\nBERMAN: Where was it?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: On Capital Avenue. Middle of the night, I hear a lot of commotion,\nand running right under the window. And I go look out and someone's running, and\npolicemen came there, and I'm scared to death what was happening. I went in and\ntried to, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4620.0,4650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as I was going in I heard a pistol shot and they killed him, the\nburglar. I went in to try to wake my grandfather and grandmother; they would not\nget up. I could not wake them up. I would [motions like shaking someone] like\nthis, nothing, absolutely. I thought they were dead, and I was just so\nfrightened. We found out that he burgled the house next door, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4650.0,4680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and tried to get\nin ours, there was stuff in the door. And that's how they caught him, running\naround the house, and he went across the street and they shot him. So, I was\nfine. Then, the next time they go out of town, [laughing] I said, \"Don't leave\nme there.\" They left be at the Mendel's, H. Mendel's house on Briarcliff [Road].\nWell, that was nice, put me in a bed upstairs, and it was pouring that night, a\nthunderstorm, and the window was open, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4680.0,4710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"banging and banging and banging. Well, it\nscared the heck out of me [laughing] it was something. Then during the War, we\nwere on Pine Tree Drive, and I heard and saw a man outside my window and going\naround there, and I mean, that was it. They put burglar guards on my windows. I\nwas just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4710.0,4740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"paranoid about crime, and to this day, I still am.\n\nBERMAN: That's amazing, really.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes, so it shows you how the influence of the ...\n\nBERMAN: The cross is burned on your lawn. Was there picketing outside the hotel.\nAnd did they lose a lot of business?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes, yes. A lot of business.\n\nBERMAN: Did they ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4740.0,4770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"recoup it?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: No. Eventually they had to sell, they couldn't recoup it. Because,\nwhat happened is that, after we integrated at the Peachtree Manor Hotel,\ndowntown started to do the same. Marvin was building the Atlanta American and\nwhen that was done, the mayor asked him would he integrate that hotel as well.\nSo, that became the first downtown hotel to integrate, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4770.0,4800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and then the rest, that\nwas it.\n\nBERMAN: How did he manage to integrate that hotel and stay in business?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Downtown?\n\nBERMAN: Yes.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Well, not long after he did it, the others integrated. Yes, there was\nsome business loss, but that's something that we knew would happen. Dad knew it,\nhe knew and was willing to take that. I'm not so sure in those ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4800.0,4830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"meetings that the\nother investors were like that. But yes, I think Sol Golden, Sidney, these were\npeople who had dealt with the black community in all the ways. Sidney was in the\nlaundry business and his customers were white and black. Same way with Sol\nGolden, so, it wasn't that difficult for Dad to do it. But ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4830.0,4860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with all the death\nthreats and all of these things, it became very, very difficult.\n\nBERMAN: When Harry Belafonte came to town, did he stay at one of your family's ...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: He stayed downtown at the [Atlanta] American. In fact, the Atlanta\nAmerican has a whole history that when David Martin, who is the president of\nthis hotel group downtown, when he bought the building, which was the Atlanta\nAmerican, he changed the name back ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4860.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to The American Hotel. And they have\ncompletely, it's a fully integrated hotel, but they brought back some of the key\nthings from the hotel, like who had stayed there. It's a wonderful hotel to go\nthrough and see because it brings back all the things from the Atlanta American Hotel.\n\nBERMAN: I interviewed Sam Massell a number of years ago and he was speaking\nabout Harry Belefonte ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4890.0,4920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coming to town and that the hotel where Leb's was at would\nnot serve Harry Belefonte.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes.\n\nBERMAN: And he ended up staying at the American?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I'm not sure that was the first time that that happened. I'm not sure\nwhat was going on then. That was when Lester Maddox was governor and I remember\nthat because we would go to Leb's all the time, that was where we would eat. And\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4920.0,4950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dad treated Charlie Leb, so that was friends as well. But I don't know. That was\na mistake, that shouldn't have happened.\n\nBERMAN: Did you or your father have any political aspirations?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Well, I was in the newspaper so much during fluoridation activities,\nduring mental health, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4950.0,4980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"finally I was approached by a group that wanted me to run\nfor Insurance Commissioner, Comptroller General is what it was. And they would\nput up a million dollars, which at that time, my God, no one even, you could\nraise maybe a couple hundred thousand, was the most anyone would ever have. So,\nit would have ensured I would have gotten in. But I just questioned who would\nput up that kind of money ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=4980.0,5010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and this is a group that wants you in this position. I\nsaid, \"What do they get out of it?\" And they said, \"nothing\", except maybe once\nin a while they may have a request from you. And I thought about it and I\nrealized who they were, and I turned it down.\n\nBERMAN: Who were they?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I was treating one man, I didn't know who he was, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5010.0,5040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but he was an\nex-prize fighter. And one day when I was treating him, my receptionist called\nand said, \"Dr. Goldstein, I know you've got him all day,\" because I was doing\nhis teeth and his crowns and everything, \"but there are three gentlemen here\nthat want to spend just five or ten minutes, if you don't mind, with your\npatient, if he can get to the stumbling block.\" I said, \"Well, let me ask him,\"\nand I asked him and he asked who the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5040.0,5070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"name was and I gave him the name. And he\nsaid, \"Yes, I have to talk to them.\" And this little man comes in with a black,\nlong, overcoat, and the two others come in and they had a meeting for about ten\nminutes and they left. Well, I didn't think much of it. I was working and put in\nthe crowns for him. And I got a visit from ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5070.0,5100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the FBI and they said, \"We want to\ntalk to you,\" and I said, \"Oh, my God, what did I do?\" And he says, \"It's not\nwhat you can do, but what you can help us with\" and I said, \"How?\" He says, \"You\ntreated a patient last evening and you prescribed a narcotic for him.\" I said,\n\"Yes, this is so-and-so, because he'd be in acute pain with everything that we\ndid, I wanted to make sure he was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5100.0,5130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"covered.\" He said, \"Dr. Goldstein, you don't\nknow who he is, do you?\" I said, \"He's an ex-prize fighter.\" He said, \"He's a\nhitman for the mafia.\" And I said, \"Well, I just can't understand that.\" He\nsays, \"We've been trying to get him for so many years. And now, this is the\nfirst time that we can nail him with narcotics.\" He says, \"Maybe you didn't\nwrite that prescription.\" I said, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5130.0,5160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"There's no way in God's green earth I'm going\nto lie about this.\" [He said] \"Doctor, we need your help,\" and I said, \"I can't\ndo that.\" And I didn't do it, and he thanked me so much. He was so appreciative\nbecause, he says, \"They were out to get me.\" I would take a picture, of all my\npatients after I do it [work on them]. And he said, \"Come on, I'll be here\ntomorrow, you've got to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5160.0,5190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"check me,\" so I said, \"OK, just one. I'll pop one\npicture and that'll be fine.\" And he never came back, never came back, didn't\npay the bill. I learned two things; that's when I started charging in advance,\nand the second one is, never let a patient get out unless you take pictures.\nNever. I don't care how tired you are, how tired they are, we have to do it for\nlegal purposes. And ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5190.0,5220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that changed the way we practiced dentistry. I'll end it by\nsaying, I never knew what happened. Six months later, I'm treating someone else,\nand I said, \"You knew about so-and-so, didn't you?\" They said, \"Yeah, don't ask\nabout him.\" I said, \"What are you talking about?\" [they said] \"You don't talk\nabout him.\" I said, \"Why?\" [they said] \"He borrowed two million dollars from\nthese people,\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5220.0,5250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with the silver mines is what it was, that didn't exist, \"and\nhe's under the ground somewhere.\"\n\nBERMAN: That's an unbelievable story.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes. I never asked again.\n\nBERMAN: Do you know his name? Do you remember his name?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: No. I mean, I do, I have pictures of him, so I remember.\n\nBERMAN: So, we haven't spoken much about your personal life. I know you're\nmarried. How did you meet your wife?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5250.0,5280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOLDSTEIN: I met Judy... I've treated Dr. Alfred Winestein, who wrote The Barbed\nWire Surgeon. Great doctor. And his wife was so close to us, and friendly, and\nshe called Mother and said, \"I've got a perfect date for Ronnie, someone's\ncoming from Miami, they're moving, they're staying at the Georgian Terrace, by\nthe way.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5280.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, Mom says, \"You just have to take her out or something like that.\"\nThere was the Southeastern Fair, so I called and said, \"Would you like to go to\nthe Fair?\" That way you don't have to spend much time with anybody, you're going\nto be on rides, stuff like that. So, I picked her up at the Georgian Terrace,\nwhich the family owned at that point, the whole corporation did. And I was\nshocked because she ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5310.0,5340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was much younger than I thought. They didn't tell me how old\nshe was. I didn't ask how old she was, I thought she'd be a comfortable age,\nmaybe a year younger. She was fourteen years old.\n\nBERMAN: And how old were you?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Eighteen. Well, you didn't, I mean my gosh. I know that the colleges\nwould date younger girls because there weren't enough girls if you didn't go\nyounger. The other girls were off to college everywhere. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, we went to the\nSoutheastern Fair and had a wonderful time. It was very nice. And I wasn't going\nto date her again because she was just too young. She called me and said,\n\"There's a dance coming up and I have to have a date. I don't know anybody else\nhere. So, please, would you take me to the dance?\" I did, and the rest was history.\n\nBERMAN: How long did you date before you got married?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Well, she was fourteen, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5370.0,5400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we got married when she was eighteen, so it\nwas about four years. She went out to University of Texas and she swears that I\nsent my sister out to University of Texas to keep an eye on her. That wasn't so,\nbut it just so happened that Elsa went there, my sister, Elsa Goldberg. So, I\nfound out, I said, \"Elsa, how's she doing?\" and Elsa says, \"Well, she sure is\ndating a lot of people. She's happy.\" I went out to Texas and after I think one\nsemester, I saw what it was like out there. She was voted ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5400.0,5430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one of the ten\nbest-looking girls in Texas at this university. And I had to get out there and\nbring her back to Emory.\n\nBERMAN: And what's her maiden name?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Salsburg, Judy Salsburg. And Bernie Salsburg came here from Miami,\nwas in business. And when I dated her, her mother would make the best coffee\nmilkshakes in the world. After I'd taken her home, she'd say, \"Come in, Mother's\nexpecting you,\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5430.0,5460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and she'd make me the most, she'd use a pint of ice cream. How I\ndidn't die in those days. Anyway, it will be 63 years August the 26th of this year.\n\nBERMAN: Oh, my goodness. And you have children?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: We have four children, three boys, two of them are dentists, and the\nother one's a physician. Rick is a hospitalist physician at Northside Hospital,\nwhich he absolutely loves and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5460.0,5490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they love him there. He's a great diagnostician.\nThen, one son is a prosthodontist. He has a prosthodonic practice, very\nsuccessful, on Roswell Road. He's going in as president of the Academy of\nEsthetic Dentistry, which I formed in 1976. He's going in as president now. It\nwill be the first time someone, a son or sibling of a former president will be\npresident. My other son, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5490.0,5520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ken Goldstein is a specialist, he's an endodontist and\nhe's in Marietta and he's been president of a local chapter of a fraternity,\nvery active. Just a terrific, he's done a lot of root canals, he's great. My\ndaughter also became a dentist.\n\nBERMAN: Goodness. [laughs]\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I had to use psychology on her. She says, \"Dad, I'm going to be a\npsychologist. I think that's what I want to do.\" I said, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5520.0,5550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Fine, but I think you\nneed to talk to some people who are psychologists. You're going to be happy not\nmaking any money, then. Because they really don't make any money. It's a\nwonderful profession if you want to do that, because I was going to be a\npsychiatrist at one time. So, I think that's wonderful. Just talk to somebody.\"\nShe came back and said, \"I changed my mind. I want to be a dental hygienist,\"\nand I said, \"That's great. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5550.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You'll have to go to school two years and you'll be a\nhygienist, and that's wonderful. But Kathy, you could go two more years and\nbecome a dentist. You can work as you want to work. You can work part time, full\ntime, you can have children, come back. You'll always be needed to do that.\" And\nI think I motivated her to be a dentist, and she became one. And she was doing\nthe best dentistry in our office. She was a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5580.0,5610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fabulous dentist, but she married a\nreal estate guy, Steve Schwartz. And I remember what broke the camel's back was,\none afternoon she was working very hard. She was working the room right next to\nme, and I said, \"Can I help you, I know you're working very hard.\" And she says,\n\"Dad, Steve called and he's bringing two people to dinner. I have to go home and\ncook dinner and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5610.0,5640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have to finish this patient.\" I said, \"I'll help you.\" Well,\nfinally Steve said, \"You need to come back and take care of your two daughters\nand your son and you don't need to work.\" So, she retired after about 12 years\nin the office.\n\nBERMAN: Has she ever thought about going back?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: No. She thought about it, but she gave up her license finally.\n\nBERMAN: How many grandchildren?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Eleven grandchildren, and we just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5640.0,5670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had our first great-grandchild,\nKathy's daughter had the first great-grandson, Ryan. Cute guy.\n\nBERMAN: That's amazing.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: So, it's a great family.\n\nBERMAN: And dentistry is in the blood.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes. Well, Ted Levitas was also a cousin, and Teddy went into\npractice with my dad in the Grant building. So, he had Marvin at one time, so\nMarvin was doing orthodontics, Teddy was doing, Teddy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5670.0,5700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"became a children's\ndentist because he went to night school and different schools while he was\nworking at Dad's office.\n\nBERMAN: That was one question I wanted to back up on. When I first moved to\nAtlanta, I think Ida Levitas was still living. I never really got to know her. I\nheard she was a very interesting. [pause in the tape] she was married to Louis\nLevitas, I know that, but can you tell me about her?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5700.0,5730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOLDSTEIN: Yes. She was one tough lady. I mean tough because she meant business\nwhen she said something. The funny thing was, if you called her and I'd say \"How\nare you doing?\" she says, \"Do you really want to know? You would have called\nsooner. I never heard from you.\" She would be like that, you had to call and\nkeep her informed. She knew everything that was going on in the city. She had\nsuch great contacts, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5730.0,5760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she was president of organizations, she was dynamic in\nwhatever she did. The motivation that she gave for her two sons, Elliot and Ted,\nwas amazing. We would go over there for Friday shabbis [Shabbat] dinner. We used\nto go to shabbis dinners at my grandparents' house, the Goldsteins, and I went\nto my Mendel family too, we would go there, they had a big shabbis dinner,\nFriday night dinner. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5760.0,5790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's when I learned so much about how Teddy and Elliot\nwere going. Teddy was a writer, he motivated me to keep up may writing and\nhelped me with writing. But Ida was, she was just a motivator of other people,\nyou had to do it. You can't say no to Ida Levitas, she was that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5790.0,5820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"strong in the\ncommunity. And in the family, because she stayed, she lived at the Zady's house\nbefore she married Louis Levitas. He was in insurance, so, she was very active,\neven then. He would send Ida out to collect the rents for him, and she could do\nit too. She was dynamic, a great, great lady.\n\nBERMAN: Is your family still in the hotel business at all?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5820.0,5850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOLDSTEIN: Oh, funny thing is, no. We sold everything but we retained an\ninterest in the Georgian Terrace when they wanted to build another tower there.\nDad was president of the Georgian Terrace and the Peachtree Manor. Marvin ran\nthe Atlanta American. In fact, my dad worked the morning that he died. He worked\nat the office on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5850.0,5880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a rabbi, I know because I had to take over. And he went to the\nhotel to sign checks and just keeled over at the desk. He had a cerebral\nhemorrhage. An interesting story, I was lecturing at the greater New York\nmeeting and I had finished my lecture. The funny thing was, I called my dad and\nI said, \"Dad, I'm working ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5880.0,5910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"through my lecture here and there's something missing.\nI'm missing a cassette.\" So, I said, \"Go look in the audio-visual room, at the\nPaces Ferry office there. He went in, came back to the phone, he says, \"Ronnie,\nit's right here.\" I said, \"Dad, those are my final results.\" He said, \"You're\ngoing to be great. Just tell them how good that result was.\" He had a wonderful\nsense of humor.\n\nBERMAN: He was fairly young.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5910.0,5940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOLDSTEIN: Yes, he was seventy-four years old, I think, when that happened. So,\nI finished my lecture and I'm going -- it's at the Hilton Hotel, in New York --\nand I'm just walking around to see what lectures are there I could spend time\non, because we didn't have our plane to come back until the afternoon. And I go\nback and I'm looking about, and I see this lecture, a psychiatrist lecturing\nabout death. 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Well, I go back home, and I'm at the\nairport, and I hear \"Dr. Ronald Goldstein, please call ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=5970.0,6000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"emergency line.\" I call\nand they say, \"Your father is at Piedmont Hospital, and he's not going to make\nit. And they want you to come right there.\" And we did. I never got to say\ngood-bye, he was gone when I got there. But what helped me through it was that\npaper and that lecture. And I saw the psychiatrist about ten years after that\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6000.0,6030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I told him that story, and he says, \"Do you believe in fate?\" I said, \"Yes.\"\nHe said, \"Something made you go in, something happened to make you prepared.\"\nBecause Dad was my life, I followed in his footsteps, and he taught me\neverything. But I was able to deal with it and things like that have happened.\n\nBERMAN: I have one... [speaks to someone off camera] ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6030.0,6060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh... your grandfather was murdered?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes. Grandpa Avrum Meyer, Grandpa Goldstein. We were dressed to go to\n-- I keep thinking the year 1948, everything around that, 1948 -- we were\ndressed to go to an Alpha Omega convention. By that time, when I was thirteen or\nfourteen, I was going to the conventions. They would take Elsa and myself, my\nsister and I. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6060.0,6090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we were dressed to go out of the house, our bags were out and\neverything, and then the phone rings. And Dad says, \"I better get it, to make\nsure it isn't a patient that needs something.\" So, he went to get the phone, and\nthat's when they told him, \"Your father's been murdered.\" He had a rag shop, and\nhe would hire people to go in and sort the rags and he would pay them by the\nhour, whatever it was. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6090.0,6120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"These two guys call him, this Sunday morning and said,\n\"Mr. Goldstein, we're badly in need of some money. Would you mind opening up the\nshop, let us go through and work a couple of hours to get in some money? We\ncould use that.\" He said, \"OK,\" so he went down there Sunday to open up the\nshop. They killed him for twelve dollars, that's what he had on him, that day.\nThey went to jail ...\n\nBERMAN: And tell me, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6120.0,6150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for the tape, your grandfather's full name.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Avrum Meyer, well, Abraham \"Avrum\" Meyer Goldstein. He was an amazing\nman, but very quiet. He would speak when he had something important to say, and\nhe did because he was very active in the community, especially in Shearith\nIsrael, as well. But ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6150.0,6180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the men were arrested, and in fact, I just saw one of\nthe... I'm doing this family genealogy thing, and one of the papers that I saw\nwas, they had sentenced these people to die in the electric chair. Well, it\ndidn't happen. They served time and about ten years ago they got out of jail.\nThey had served their time, I don't know what happened to them. But it affected\n-- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6180.0,6210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"obviously, the whole family -- but it really affected the girls. The sisters\nwere... it was just a blight on what they were doing...\n\nBERMAN: Sounds like it affected you too, with your fear of crime and ...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes. Oh, yes. I've always been paranoid. When I was working on the\nfirst text book in 1976, my dad said, \"Ronnie, you've been working on this book\nfor seven years.\" He said, \"For God's sakes, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6210.0,6240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"finish it.\" I said, \"Dad, I can\nonly, I'm working, so I work on it until one o'clock at night.\" And then I would\ngo home and come back the next morning, and it was just too much for me. He\nsays, \"I want you to take three months off and finish the book.\" He says, \"I'll\ntake care of your patients, we'll take care of everything here, I'll support\nyou, but finish it.\" And I hired JoAnn Jacobson, the writer to help me, and I\nmoved into our hotel, the Peachtree Manor. They gave me a suite, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6240.0,6270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I worked\nall day and I would work the nights, sometimes I wouldn't go to sleep until one,\ntwo, three o'clock in the morning. As long as I could work and work the next\nday. And we did this for, it took about three months, and I was able to finish\nthe textbook and [J. B.] Lippincott [\u0026 Co.] produced it. But that was what it\ntook. My dad was just, I told you, the sweetest man I've ever known. But there\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6270.0,6300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was one time I got upset, because he would always take the other side, whatever\nI was doing, he'd say, \"I don't think so,\" and point out all these things. So, I\nwent in to him and I said, \"Dad, why is it that you always take the other side,\nno matter what I'm doing?\" He said, \"Why do you think?\" I said, \"I don't know.\nWhy would you be against me?\" He says, \"It's not against you. I'm trying to\nteach you that there is another side, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6300.0,6330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that's what you've learned and that's\nwhat makes you as good as you are today.\" I would always [long pause in the tape].\n\nBERMAN: A final question -- I was wondering if you could reflect upon -- today\nthere are so many problems of antisemitism, there are so many problems of race\nrelations. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6330.0,6360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would just like your opinion about what has happened. How we have\ngone back to ...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Very simple. It's a simple answer. I became president of Alpha Omega\nfraternity, international fraternity, but my first position was editor of their\ndental journal. It became an award-winning journal, it changed the whole\njournal. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6360.0,6390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one of the last things I did was to produce a history of the Jewish\npeople, and what I saw throughout history, there was like this curve. In fact, I\ndid the curve in there, showing that at times in history after so many years\nantisemitism was horrible. And then, it would get better, and then so many years\nlater it would get up. So, it wasn't surprising to me that it's come back. We\nhad a time when it was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6390.0,6420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just like the curve, but it just continues to come back.\nIt's like the devil in people, certain people, and hate. Most of that is driven\nby the fact that as Jews, we are and have been, motivated to become the best\nthat we can be. And that's what motivates so many famous ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6420.0,6450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish physicians,\nJewish dentists, Jewish lawyers, Jewish businessmen. And yet, when you are up\nhere, what does it do to the person who is down here. Theoretically, they think,\n\"You're pushing us down,\" and that comes back. So, the more successful that we\nhave become, there are haters -- and there are ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6450.0,6480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"always going to be, you're never\ngoing to be able to eliminate [them] -- at least, if you look at history and I'm\na great believer in that. The best answer to history, was Henry Kissinger, he\nbecame the first... We established when Marvin Goldstein died -- I'm sorry to\ndiverge --\n\nBERMAN: No, that's fine.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: When Marvin Goldstein died, Perry Brickman and others in the\nfraternity organized a fund for Marvin, raised about three quarters of a million\ndollars. 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And he talked about how\nutterly unbelievable it is, for our leaders, for presidents ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6570.0,6600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to think that they\ncan change China in a day, that they could change that. When, it's centuries\n[old] and he said, \"You'll never change that culture, they take so much time.\"\nWhich of course, taught me a lesson because I've been a consultant for many\ncompanies, and when I've dealt with the Japanese or the Chinese, or the\ndifferent cultures there, they'll never give you a decision then. It's going to\ntake a long time ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6600.0,6630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before they do, sometimes years, before they make a decision. I\nwas a consultant telling them what they could do to be successful, and they\nwouldn't act on it. One company in particular, it took them eight years to do\nwhat I suggested to begin with. But that's the way it was. I was very active in\nthat, I wanted to let you know, because I formed Young Democrats of Georgia. And\nwe had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6630.0,6660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"John Lewis, we had Lea... oh my gosh, we had so many ...\n\nBERMAN: Leanne Levitan?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: No, no, not Leanne. This was before her time. We had all the leaders,\nthis was back in President Kennedy's time. But we became so successful. Many of\nthe ones, not only John Lewis, but others, so many leaders I had in there.\nAndrew Young was in there. 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About two months\nbefore the Democratic Convention, maybe a month, they called and said,\n\"Unfortunately, we have such a tight schedule ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6690.0,6720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we're not going to be able to\nget you on the program.\" I found out they were threatened. They thought these\n\"young turks\" that were coming up there, I had a reputation with, the mental\nhealth, everything I'd done, I've had to go over some people's heads and things\nlike that. So, we were tough. And we wanted to change things in the Democratic\nparty. They were threatened and so they canceled us and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6720.0,6750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that was the end of\nYoung Democrats. So, I became an Independent, now I'm Republican. I became much\nmore conservative, but I was a Democrat with the family when it was Democrats.\n\nBERMAN: Have I missed anything, Jeremy? Have I missed anything? Is there\nanything you would like to discuss that... [pause while Goldstein and Berman\nboth review notes about the interview]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6750.0,6780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOLDSTEIN: You ask what was Atlanta like, that was funny. \"What was Atlanta like\ngrowing up in the South?\" You couldn't shop anywhere but downtown. That's why I\nloved to be able to go downtown. There were no malls, there was no ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6780.0,6810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"shopping\ncenters, per se. You had a little country store or something like that. To buy\nclothes, to buy anything, suitcases, to buy desk furniture, whatever it was, it\nwas all downtown. Today, we hardly go downtown. I went downtown when I was on\nthe board of directors for the Atlanta American, we would go down for meetings.\nWe don't go to restaurants downtown and I think the whole ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6810.0,6840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"city has just spread\nso much that you stay in your area. Because whatever area you're in, there are\ngreat restaurants, there's shopping, and now the internet. My gosh, we haven't\nbeen to a mall in years.\n\n BERMAN:\n\nGOLDSTEIN: We shop internet. You can send it back for fitting, whatever it is.\n\nBERMAN: What about restaurants that you frequented back in the day?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Well, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6840.0,6870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leb's was the best restaurant, when it was downtown. And then,\nthe Coach and Six became one of the best restaurants. That's where my mother\nloved to go.\n\nBERMAN: We have the, in the collection at the Bremen, we have the Lantern that\nused to be outside the restaurant.\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6900.0,6930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Any restaurant would have closed up after\nthat, because nobody would go. And instead, Pano called everybody into the\ncenter and had a meeting. Chefs, waiters, bus boys, everybody. And went by these\nthings, point by point, and said, \"We're going to change this, we're going to do\nthis, we're going to do this.\" And called -- after they made the changes --\ncalled the reviewer back. And it was like, overnight, not only a success. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6930.0,6960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We\nwould have all of our meetings, our office meetings there. We would go almost\nonce a week we would go to Pano and Paul's. They had the best food, and to this\nday Pano's restaurants are some of the best in the city. I remember when Dr.\nSalama, Maurice Salama is one of our -- our office has, we've got eight dentists\n-- and three of them are dual degree. Well, actually, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6960.0,6990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry Salama is with us,\nand Maurice Salama is dual degree, and David Garber is duel degree, in\nprosthodontics and in periodontics. They came out of University of Pennsylvania.\nThey would give duel degrees if you went longer time. Maurice Salama had dual\ndegree and we wanted him because he was an orthodontist and a periodontist, and\nthere are only, maybe, a handful throughout the United States. So, we brought\nhim down, we met him, I talked to him, and I said, \"You have to come with us. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=6990.0,7020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We\nneed this and we can help you, but you can help us as well.\" So, David says, \"By\nthe way, I'm doing a ...\" We were active in television. I've done about seventy\nprograms for PM Magazine years ago. And David Garber was doing, programs about\nanything about dentistry that they would call us to do. So, David says, \"I'm\ngoing to go to Channel 5, why don't you come with me?\" So, he went there, came\nback and I said, \"We're going to Pano and Paul's for dinner.\" So, I took him to\ndinner that night. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7020.0,7050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, we had a great dinner and I told him, \"You have to be\nwith us.\" So, we go out of Pano and Paul's and as we walk out the door, who is\nthere but the Chief of Police, Eldrin Bell. And I said, \"Eldrin,\" I said, \"Gosh,\nnice to see you. I want you to meet Dr. Maurice Salama. We're trying to get him\nto come to Atlanta.\" Well, Eldrin starts a speech about how he should come to\nAtlanta, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7050.0,7080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and he's the Chief of Police. Well, after about eight or ten minutes, a\nlimousine pulls up in front of the ice cream store next to Pano. And he says,\n\"Oh, there's the Mayor.\"\n\nBERMAN: [laughs]\n\nGOLDSTEIN: And Maurice is saying, \"What's going on here?\" So, I went, \"Come on,\nwe're going to meet the mayor.\" So, Eldrin goes over and says, \"Mayor Jackson, I\nwant you to meet Dr. Salama. We want him to come to Atlanta.\" Well, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7080.0,7110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he's my\nfriend, and my patient, Maynard Jackson. I sold him his first car, as a matter\nof fact. Any rate, he said, \"You know, I need me some ice cream. Come on in with\nme, we'll sit down for just a few minutes and talk.\" Well, we look and his\nfamily, his wife and kids are in the limousine. He spent twenty minutes with\nMaurice Salama and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7110.0,7140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maurice says, \"I have no choice now, I have to come here.\nThat's unbelievable what you did. How did you do this?\" And I said, \"Maurice, it\nwas just coincidence, it was fate.\" To this day he thinks, \"Yeah, fate. You\narranged that. How can you arrange that...?\n\nBERMAN: [laughs]\n\nGOLDSTEIN: ...the mayor's coming, and everything. So, it was fate that it\nhappened, and he's been, he's a world-famous dentist now. He's lecturing all\nover Europe this month.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7140.0,7170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: Well, the whole idea is that your family has been in Atlanta so long,\nyou know everybody. Or you're related to ...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: We used to. That was the great thing about Atlanta, when it was\nsmaller like that. You did know. And if you didn't, you would meet them. You\nwould go, because I was very active in so many organizations and being out.\nBecause my dad said, \"You want to build a practice? Then you go to these\nfunctions.\" I said, \"But I'm tired,\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7170.0,7200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he says, \"I don't care how tired you are.\nYou go to these functions and you meet people and that's how you build your\npractice.\" Which I did, and it was very successful. But today, it's different.\nYou see a lot of advertising. We were actually forced to do advertising\nourselves. 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And ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7230.0,7260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's thrilling. I wish that I had the time to do some things that I\nwould like to do now. When I was seventy-five, I gave considerable money --\n$75,000 -- to start a charity, Tomorrow's Smiles. My dad would treat so many\npeople. My dad had a philosophy, you don't pay me unless you like the result.\nAnd ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7260.0,7290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too many people would say, \"You know, I'm just not happy.\" \"Don't pay me,\ndon't pay me.\" And they wouldn't go anywhere else, they just wanted to get\nsomething free. But he would do so many cases without charging. People, indigent\npeople, who, that's one of the reasons why he started the Ben Massell [Dental] Clinic.\n\nBERMAN: We haven't really discussed that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7290.0,7320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too much. How active was your father,\nand were you active at the clinic?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes. I was heading up esthetic dentistry, but I worked down there for\na number of years.\n\nBERMAN: What was that like?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: It was great. We would see a lot of patients. I would do esthetic\nprocedures, that's what I was doing. And I just was marveling at how many\npatients that clinic could see. 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By the way, he's the one that\ngot Ben Massell to give the money to establish the Ben Massell Clinic, the\ndental clinic.\n\nBERMAN: Do you know why it moved away ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7350.0,7380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from a general clinic, the Morris Hirsch\nClinic, to just dentistry?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes. Well, it's Morris Hirsch Dental Clinic, but they had other\nthings that they were doing there. No, because Dad felt like there had to be a\ndental clinic and with the most modern facilities and everything at that time.\nSo, he got Ben Massell to give money to do all this. Now, the clinic is still,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7380.0,7410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"state of the art, when it was built on 14th Street.\n\nBERMAN: And I vaguely remember a photograph I saw of an ambulance. Did your\nfather buy the first ambulance for the State of Israel?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I don't know.\n\nBERMAN: Do you know a story about that at all?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: I've heard it, but I don't know.\n\nBERMAN: I think there's a photograph in the archives of him standing ...\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Yes...\n\nBERMAN: ...near an ambulance.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7410.0,7440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOLDSTEIN: He raised monies for that. You know, when he died, one of the first\nthings we did was to give a lectureship in his honor, to bring famous lecturers\nto Israel. And they would stay there for a period of a month or a time, not only\nto give lectures, but to teach. So, it's in his name, the Irving Goldstein\nthing. And ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7440.0,7470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marvin established the dental clinic at the Hebrew University, the\northodontic dental clinic. I established the Esthetic Center, Ronald Goldstein\nEsthetic and Implant Center. So, we've all been devoted to Israel and to its\ncause there. You know, go back, I didn't finish. When I was seventy-five and\nstarted this. The reason why I established the charity called Tomorrow's Smiles,\nI was doing so many pro-bono cases, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7470.0,7500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would get calls from people. \"This girl\nhas flunked out of school and is so anti-social. She got in trouble with the\npolice.\" And we discovered that she won't smile because she hates her smile. So,\nI gave her a smile, without any charge. We would do this for kids. And I said,\n\"You know what, this needs to be done.\" That's why I established Tomorrow's\nSmiles to get dentists to agree, at no charge, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7500.0,7530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to do the procedures. And\nwhatever they needed, we would establish a fund -- that's why I gave the money\n-- to pay for laboratory work, or pay for other things that had to be done. So,\nit would cost the dentist nothing to do it, except time. And that's been all\nover the country because we've now got it [smiles, reaches for a magazine and\npoints to the cover], this gal, Cherilyn Sheets, she started this children's\ncharity -- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7530.0,7560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's one of the biggest in the country now -- and Tomorrow's Smiles\nis part of that.\n\nBERMAN: So, you started this yourself. That's an amazing thing in itself. How\nmany children have you helped?\n\nGOLDSTEIN: Oh, my gosh. Hundreds and hundreds and it may be thousands now.\nBecause, my problem is, I've had to do writing for the two magazines I'm with,\nI've written so many articles for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7560.0,7590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/transcript/31868/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"other magazines as well. I've been interviewed\nso many times for different magazines and newspapers. But I was lecturing, and\nlecturing -- I've lectured over seven hundred dental meetings -- but a one-hour\nlecture takes about fifty to sixty hours. So, I have [gestures to cabinets] you\ncan see all of these cabinets here, they're full of patients I have treated for\nsixty years. 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I've got over sixty, seventy, lectures\nthat I've got...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=7620.0,7650.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/annotation_set/560","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Goldstein, Ronald [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/annotation_set/560/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBrothers Marvin and Irving Goldstein were leaders in the Jewish—and broader Atlanta—community during the civil rights movement. Marvin (orthodontist) and Irving (dentist) shared a dental practice in Atlanta that was the first in the Southeast to care for black patients in an integrated office on an equal basis with white patients. They treated the families of Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and other civil rights leaders, and established the Ben Massell Dental Clinic (BMDC) in 1956 where area dentists donated their time to provide free services to the underprivileged. The brothers also owned several hotels in the city, including the Georgian Terrace and Americana Motor Hotel which opened in 1962 and was one of the first integrated lodging options in Atlanta.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/annotation_set/560/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eH. Mendel \u0026amp; Company, located on Pryor Street in downtown Atlanta, was the city’s largest wholesale distributor of dry goods, notions, and ready-to-wear clothing in the 1920s.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/48179/file/121294/annotation_set/560/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBrothers Morris and Emanuel Rich—Jewish Hungarian immigrants—founded Rich’s Department Store in 1867. The store came to symbolize the retail shopping experience in Atlanta during the twentieth century and was known for its commitment to customers and strong sense of civic responsibility. 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