{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/m03xs5k237/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Eplan, Leon (2007)"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2007-04 (created)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source"]},"value":{"en":["Esther and Herbert Taylor Oral History Collection","Ida Pearle and Joseph Cuba Archives for Southern Jewish History","William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eLeon Eplan interviewed by Sara Ghitis in April, 2007 in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e (general)","\u003cp\u003eLeon Samuel Eplan was born in 1928 in Jacksonville, Florida, to Samuel and Bess Eplan. His family history originates in Odessa, Russia. Leon is fourth generation Jewish Atlantan. He has one older sister, Carolyn Eplan Goldsmith. Leon grew up in the Midtown section of Atlanta and attended Boys High and later Emory University. As a youth, Leon was a member of a Jewish boy scout troop. He participated in the AZA, Aleph Zadik Aleph youth organization, where he was elected to regional and national positions.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eThe Eplan family were members of the Ahavath Achim congregation. Leon’s grandfather was a founding member of the synagogue. His grandfather was also a founding member of the Jewish Progressive Club. His grandparents helped establish the Jewish Educational Alliance.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLeon earned master’s degrees in city planning at the London School of Economics and the University of North Carolina. He earned a master’s degree in sociology at the University of Tennessee. He began his career in New York at a city planning consulting firm. He returned to Atlanta in 1956, where he became president of a city planning consulting firm, engaged in urban renewal work and clearance throughout the southeast. His career continued in Atlanta, holding positions in city planning. He later held the role of commissioner of planning and development for the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta.  \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLeon married Madalyne Buchman Eplan in 1959. They have three children and many grandchildren.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eLeon Eplan begins the interview talking about his family ancestry originating in Russia and his family history in Atlanta. He reflects that his family was not very observant but remembers his father conducting a seder every year. He tells that his father was a lawyer and remembers him working long hours. He reflects that he learned the value of public service from his father.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLeon relates that he was born during the Great Depression but he does not remember hardship. He only recalls playing softball and riding his bicycle. He tells of the Jewish boy scout camp he attended and the vivid memories of learning to live in the woods. Leon talks about attending Boys School and discusses various schools in Atlanta. Leon talks about his travels to Israel in 1956 and other countries in the region. He reflects that he learned to be adventuresome through his sister Carolyn and describes her as a spirited person.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLeon talks about what compelled him to study city planning and the graduate programs he attended. He talks about beginning his career in urban economics in New York. He discusses his career in city planning in the city of Atlanta and the various projects he was involved in. Leon discusses his role of commissioner of planning and development for the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta and the opportunity to work with Mayors Andrew Young and Shirley Franklin.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLeon reflects on the city of Atlanta and its growth and changes over the decades. He discusses his role as commissioner of city planning for the 1996 Summer Olympics. He reflects that the city of Atlanta had welcomed his grandfather in 1881, who had gone from being a peddler to president of a major bank. Leon expresses he had a service to provide to the city in the public sector and involved in shaping its future. He talks about the importance of the in-town Jewish community.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eHe tells of meeting his wife, Madalyn, and talks about their first date. He talks about his wife as an intelligent and wonderful person. Leon talks about their three children and their commitment to public service. He reflects that he feels excited seeing his children being involved in service and having an obligation to the city of Atlanta that he and his father and grandfather were a part of, both in the Jewish and the larger community.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28603"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["city planning (topical term)","Atlanta, GA (geographic term)","1996 Summer Olympics (named event)","Atlanta Jewish Community Center (corporate name)","Civil Rights Era (chronological term)","Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games (corporate name)","Jewish community (topical term)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eLeon Eplan interviewed by Sara Ghitis in April, 2007 in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eLeon Samuel Eplan was born in 1928 in Jacksonville, Florida, to Samuel and Bess Eplan. His family history originates in Odessa, Russia. Leon is fourth generation Jewish Atlantan. He has one older sister, Carolyn Eplan Goldsmith. Leon grew up in the Midtown section of Atlanta and attended Boys High and later Emory University. As a youth, Leon was a member of a Jewish boy scout troop. He participated in the AZA, Aleph Zadik Aleph youth organization, where he was elected to regional and national positions.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eThe Eplan family were members of the Ahavath Achim congregation. Leon\u0026rsquo;s grandfather was a founding member of the synagogue. His grandfather was also a founding member of the Jewish Progressive Club. His grandparents helped establish the Jewish Educational Alliance.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLeon earned master\u0026rsquo;s degrees in city planning at the London School of Economics and the University of North Carolina. He earned a master\u0026rsquo;s degree in sociology at the University of Tennessee. He began his career in New York at a city planning consulting firm. He returned to Atlanta in 1956, where he became president of a city planning consulting firm, engaged in urban renewal work and clearance throughout the southeast. His career continued in Atlanta, holding positions in city planning. He later held the role of commissioner of planning and development for the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta. \u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLeon married Madalyne Buchman Eplan in 1959. They have three children and many grandchildren.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eLeon Eplan begins the interview talking about his family ancestry originating in Russia and his family history in Atlanta. He reflects that his family was not very observant but remembers his father conducting a seder every year. He tells that his father was a lawyer and remembers him working long hours. He reflects that he learned the value of public service from his father.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLeon relates that he was born during the Great Depression but he does not remember hardship. He only recalls playing softball and riding his bicycle. He tells of the Jewish boy scout camp he attended and the vivid memories of learning to live in the woods. Leon talks about attending Boys School and discusses various schools in Atlanta. Leon talks about his travels to Israel in 1956 and other countries in the region. He reflects that he learned to be adventuresome through his sister Carolyn and describes her as a spirited person.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLeon talks about what compelled him to study city planning and the graduate programs he attended. He talks about beginning his career in urban economics in New York. He discusses his career in city planning in the city of Atlanta and the various projects he was involved in. Leon discusses his role of commissioner of planning and development for the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta and the opportunity to work with Mayors Andrew Young and Shirley Franklin.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLeon reflects on the city of Atlanta and its growth and changes over the decades. He discusses his role as commissioner of city planning for the 1996 Summer Olympics. He reflects that the city of Atlanta had welcomed his grandfather in 1881, who had gone from being a peddler to president of a major bank. Leon expresses he had a service to provide to the city in the public sector and involved in shaping its future. He talks about the importance of the in-town Jewish community.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eHe tells of meeting his wife, Madalyn, and talks about their first date. He talks about his wife as an intelligent and wonderful person. Leon talks about their three children and their commitment to public service. 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I was born on November 24, 1928, in Jacksonville,\nFlorida, where my parents were living temporarily.\n\nGHITIS: How far back can you go ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in your ancestry? What do you know about where\nthey came from? Why they came?\n\nEPLAN: I know very little about my ancestry. I do know that my grandfather, Leon\nEplan, after whom I was named, came originally and his family, came originally\nfrom Odessa, Russia. They were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bakers in Odessa. He actually left there in the\n1870s very quickly, as I understand. They were pursuing him to be in the army,\nso he escaped. He was fairly well educated, probably middle class. He left very\nquickly from there to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paris and then London and, in time, to New York. I know a\nlittle about that only because I have a uncle that was born in each of those places.\n\nGHITIS: What about his wife? Your grandmother?\n\nEPLAN: I really have less of an image, although she lived far beyond when he\ndied. He died before I was born. He died in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1922. She lived until after WWII.\nShe was a recluse and did not speak very much. She was a distant person in my\nlife. She lived with my aunt primarily. When I was growing up, my grandfather\nhad a small apartment house ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the south side of Atlanta near where what is now\nthird base of Turner Field. She lived there for a while because we used to visit\nher on Sunday after shul, which was not very far. Ahavath Achim shul was not\nvery far. After Sunday services we went over to visit her.\n\nGHITIS: What brought your grandfather to Atlanta?\n\nEPLAN: I have no idea whatsoever. I think he was really escaping rather than\nbeing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pulled to this country. I seem to recall that he went to Nashville\n[Tennessee] where he had a friend. His friend, for whatever reason, suggested\nthat he come to this budding city of Atlanta. That's about all I know except\nthat he arrived approximately in 1881.\n\nGHITIS: You mentioned Ahavath Achim, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the synagogue congregation. Was your\ngrandfather by any chance a founding member?\n\nEPLAN: He was. In fact, there were five persons who signed the incorporation\ndocuments for the state, and he was one. That was in 1890 or somewhere in that\narea. So, he was one of the founding ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"members. His picture is on the cover of the\nhistory of AA [From Generation to Generation: A Centennial History of\nCongregation Ahavath Achim 1887-1987].\n\nGHITIS: How did he make a living?\n\nEPLAN: As a peddler. He, at first, appeared in the city directory, which I have\nresearched, in 1885 as I recall. He was listed as a peddler. He gave the name of\nthe street that he lived on, a street that came off Dekalb ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Avenue, which no\nlonger exists. It's been wiped out. I assume he was like Tevye. He went to the\ncountryside making his living.\n\nGHITIS: Did he become involved in community life in any capacity?\n\nEPLAN: Very much so. He was one of the leaders of the Ashkenazi community. He\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"played a leading role of bringing the Ashkenazi contingent that was coming to\nthe country during the 1890s to settle in. My grandmother was involved with an\norganization that led, eventually, to the Jewish Home for the Aged. She used to\ngo down and deliver gifts to people on the south side ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of town where that entity,\nwhere there was a home down there on Pryor Street on the south side of Atlanta.\nI was told that she used to go down there on Sundays to visit that home. They\ntook a very active role in the establishment of the [Jewish Educational]\nAlliance, which was the facility that later became the Jewish Community Center,\nwhich is now the Marcus [Jewish] Community Center.\n\nGHITIS: What was your ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"grandmother's name?\n\nEPLAN: Bess. I might say also in the early 1900s... In 1890. Sorry, in the\n1890s, my grandfather brought his mother over. She is buried here in Greenwood [Cemetery].\n\nGHITIS: What was her name?\n\nEPLAN: I don't recall, but I seem to recall her name is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bess as well. That may\nbe difficult. But she's buried here. She is there is in Greenwood. She was born\nin 1835. I have ancestors here that stretch back as a pre-period for the city of\nAtlanta. City of Atlanta was formed in 1847, so that was far before not long before.\n\nGHITIS: What about your mother's side?\n\nEPLAN: My mother's side came ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from a northern part of what was then Poland. It\nwent back and forth, Russia, Poland, whatever. In the northern area, I seem to\nrecall its name. I don't... I do remember that the I think Horowitz came from\nthat same region of Poland. My mother arrived... was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"born in 1897. She had come\nhere when she was one year old.\n\nGHITIS: This is your mother?\n\nEPLAN: My mother. Of course, my grandmother came with my grandfather in 1880s\nand came and settled here in 1881. They arrived in New York, possibly, in the\nlate 1870s.\n\nGHITIS: Let's talk about your parents. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What were their names?\n\nEPLAN: My father's full name was Samuel Leon Eplan. Interesting that he took my\ngrandfather's name as his name, was given actually as his middle name. I became\nLeon Samuel Eplan. So, the Leon remained from my grandfather and my... ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes go ahead.\n\nGHITIS: This is interesting since it's not customary among Ashkenazi Jews to\nname for the living.\n\nEPLAN: Yes. I don't know how far back that tradition goes, though. I know that\nis a tradition, but we have many traditions that I question how long ago that\ntradition was established. It certainly doesn't appear in biblical days.\n\nGHITIS: By the way, do you have a Hebrew name?\n\nEPLAN: Leib Shmuel. 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There were\njust a series of Besses, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"including my stepmother, but go ahead. Much later.\n\nGHITIS: Tell me about your father. What kind of person was he?\n\nEPLAN: My father, Samuel, he was one of 9 children, two of whom died at\nchildhood. My grandfather in the early 1890s stopped being a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"peddler and decided\nto open a clothing store, perhaps a loan store. As the children began to grow\nup, he began to bring his children, my uncles, into the business. There were a\nlot of boys. There was just so many, so much room. My father was a very, very\nbright person. 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He spent most of his time fighting the [1918] flu epidemic that killed\nso many millions of people.\n\nGHITIS: What year was this?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EPLAN: About 1917. When he got out... the war ended. He went to Emory\n[University] and joined the law school and was in the first graduating class in\n1919 of Emory Law school. 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He\nwas an avid golfer... for muscular sclerosis actually.\n\nGHITIS: Your mother, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what was she like?\n\nEPLAN: She was like my wife [Madalyne Buchman Eplan]. She was very bright.\nExtremely well read. She was always reading. She was one the few of her\ngirlfriends that graduated from high school. She was born in Chattanooga,\nTennessee, where her father was a rabbi there. 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The\nroads were dirt.\n\nGHITIS: Do any of your children resemble your parents or your grandparents?\n\nEPLAN: My children or my grandchildren?\n\nGHITIS: Children or grandchildren.\n\nEPLAN: I have a grandchild ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who is an Abelson. You look at him and he looks like\nan Abelson. Because I knew all of my mother's brothers. A lot of them moved to\nAtlanta. They were here. They left home from Chattanooga. They came to Atlanta.\nI had all sorts of uncles who were here. One of them was a prize fighter.\nAnother one ran this store, that store. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I dated her for a few years after that. I just wanted to illustrate\nthe association through the generations that continued to blossom through my\ngrandfather, my father, myself, and now my children.\n\nGHITIS: How many children were there in your family?\n\nEPLAN: My personal family? There were three children. Elise was born in... 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She lives very close to me, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we see each other of\ncourse. I'm very fond of her four daughters. My children live, one of her\ndaughters lives in Washington. A very prominent person in Washington actually.\nThe other three live near here. They all... my children and her children and she\nand I all live pretty close together.\n\nGHITIS: What is your sister's name?\n\nEPLAN: Carolyn [Eplan Goldsmith]. She was a spirited person. 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He instilled in me the honor of public service, community service.\n\nGHITIS: If you had at this moment the opportunity to thank your parents for\nsomething they did for you, what would you tell them?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EPLAN: The point that I just made, that I regard as paramount in my life is that\nwe're put on this earth for a very short time, and we are obligated to leave the\nworld better than we left it. That service to community is paramount. The riches\nare not important. 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He would get people settled here ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who were coming to\nthe city. He would get jobs for people. He would mentor youth regardless of\ncolor. I can't... there is an endless stream of things that my father presented\nme a personality for, and my mother as well. But public service and service to\nthe community, to me, is a value that I feel I got from him. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel that I've\nleft for my own children.\n\nGHITIS: When you were growing up, what aspirations did your parents have for\nboth you and your sister? What did they tell you about what they wanted you to\nbecome professionally? As human beings?\n\nEPLAN: Professionally, they never, they never guided me. I felt ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=1920.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I was going\nto college. It was a natural thing to do. I'm not sure he emphasized that. What\nI studied was what I learned as I went along. I know that they didn't have\nenough money to send my sister to school. My mother's brother, who was a sick\nman, never married, gave them the money to send my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sister off to college. She\nwent to Louisiana State [University] for one year. Then, because of the threat\nof bombing that everybody was concerned, came back. Spent a year, her sophomore\nyear at Agnes Scott [College] and her final two years in Missouri in journalism.\nShe's a fine writer. Ended up in marketing of women's... a buyer for women's\nstores and so forth like that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think more than anything else, they gave me a\nreassurance. Without telling me... in fact my mother said don't become a lawyer\nthey don't make money. Of course, she was looking at her husband when she said\nthat. So, I didn't become a lawyer, although I possibly would have moved in that\ndirection. My interest took me in a different direction. I never recalled\nanything they said, they gave me the sense of freedom and the self-assurance\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2010.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that allowed me to get hold of my own life. I became a debater. I went to the\nfinals for national debate championship. I think that sort of thing came from my\nfather, not that he insisted, although my mother did give me elocution letters.\nI remember the woman that made me pronounce things. I don't think it did very\nwell for me. I probably could have done a lot better. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She gave me piano lessons.\nBut the fact I didn't continue means that she did not push me beyond where I\nwanted to go. I was kind of wild as a kid. I was very risk taking. I was always\nbeing pulled off a garage roof or out a tree or being. I've got scars all the\nway up because I was very small. I was also very fast and athletic, so I was\nalways being thrown around type of things. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was adventuresome. Like my sister\nCarolyn, taught me that. I think.\n\nGHITIS: Let's talk about the homes where you lived as a child. What is the\nearliest house you remember?\n\nEPLAN: We moved back when I was 3, I think it was, or 4, from Jacksonville. My\nfather was in the laundry business because there was no work for lawyers. He had\na friend that set him up running a laundry. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2100.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we came back when I was a child.\nI never felt anything but I was a native of Atlanta because we were temporary\nliving in Jacksonville. My father was born here, and I've always regarded myself\nas a native. We came back and we temporarily lived, very temporarily maybe 6\nmonths, lived in the apartment house that my grandmother owned because my\ngrandfather had died, temporarily. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We lived\nthere for a long time, maybe ten years, and then moved in to the Virginia\nHighland area where my father bought a house, at that time, on Elkmont Drive,\n715 Elkmont Drive. Then, facing the park [Piedmont Park]. What was the name of\nthat park? But it was a park across the street. Then around the corner, he\nbought another house. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We left that. Where I lived for a number of years on\nBrookridge Drive, 733. I lived in those until I went to college.\n\nGHITIS: How would you describe your standard of living based on what your father\ncould provide? What were you able to afford?\n\nEPLAN: I never felt want for anything. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It didn't occur to me.\n\nGHITIS: Could your mother afford help inside the house?\n\nEPLAN: Yes. When we lived in Jacksonville, we employed a woman. She was a\ndomestic. She was white but wore a uniform. She could've been, I suspect she may\nhave been, a nurse. Her name was Stella. Stella Armstrong. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We\ndidn't keep kosher because we weren't that religious. You know raw this and\nturnip greens and all the stuff that I learned to hate. I hate southern food\nafter living with Stella all these years. Didn't ever come back until I got\nmarried when I had a wife who was this marvelous cook who could actually\ntransform things I hate to these marvelous dishes.\n\nGHITIS: As you were growing up, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2400.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"WWII happened. You were a teenager?\n\nEPLAN: Yes.\n\nGHITIS: What are your memories of those years especially as a Jewish person?\n\nEPLAN: I can't remember the connection of being Jewish. That's not as vivid.\nI'll tell you the one image that I really do ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have locked in my mind. The Bermans\nlived, when we were on Elkmont Drive, lived three doors down.\n\nGHITIS: Which Bermans?\n\nEPLAN: This was Sam Berman. This was Hazel Karp's father. I grew up with Hazel,\nwho is same age. She was taller than I. 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We used to go\nout, me and my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Boy Scout uniform. It was great because I was allowed to be\noutside when everybody else was forced to be inside. We'd go around the\nneighborhood, and if there was a tiny little crack, Mr. Berman used to tap on\nthe window and everything like that. That was a vivid memory of mine. He raised\nvegetables. He taught me how to raise vegetables in his back yard because we\nwere raising our own food in those days. 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It's now been torn down, and there's an apartment house there\nnow, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but one of my vivid memories was being in this Jewish boy scout troop 53\nthat met in that. I became a very, very strong boy scout. I went off to boy\nscout camp three summers to get merit badges to learn to live in the woods, to\nbegin to appreciate reptiles, to do hand ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"communication signs. A huge range of\nactivities that I was engaged in. The 14-mile hike that I took with Elliott\nLevitas with Mrs. Levitas coming behind us in the car with food. There were\ngames, drop the flag, and all these games that we played. I'm not sure there was\nJewish content, although I think we were at the Oakland Cemetery ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and we went on\noutings things like that. I don't really relate being in a Jewish scout troop. I\nwent to boy scout camp. I was the only Jewish person there.\n\nGHITIS: Do you know if anyone in your extended family perished in the Holocaust?\n\nEPLAN: I don't know. The only connection that I ever had, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"both my mother and my\nfather, my father was from southern Russia. My mother was from northern,\nnorthern Poland. When I went, I went to Israel in 1956. I got caught up in the\n1956 war [the Suez Crisis]. Was evacuated and everything like that. My ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mother\nhad a relative that had immigrated in the 1930s to what was then Palestine. In\nfact, he gave, he drew me a map. He was a photographer. Did photography or had a\nphotography shop. He drew me a map where the region he came from in Poland. I've\nalways regretted that I have lost that map. I cannot find it. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He told me that\nthe whole family had been wiped out. They stayed behind, and they had been wiped\nout. He was the only survivor. I don't know how many that was. I wish I knew\nwhere he was from. If only I knew. From Lódź, I think, or somewhere near\nthere. 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They may have been involved because when my mother-in-law and\nfather-in-law came over here around the First World War, that's another story\nhow that family ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2760.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"came to Mobile, Alabama, where Madalyne was from. Interesting\nstory. In fact, I'm as close to her family as I am the Eplan and Abelson side.\nIt was a very interesting migration of them. I don't know what happened to them.\nI do know... that's not so. My father-in-law's family was killed in the war.\nThey were from Russia. Were killed in the war. When he came back, the family had\ngone. 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Years, years later after we got married, a cousin of\nMadalyne's, from Nashville, befriended a professor ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Russian studies at\nVanderbilt [University]. They began to seek out to see if they could find\nMadalyne's father's family. They did locate them. Eventually, my stepfather and\nMadalyne's cousin went to Russia to meet with them.\n\nGHITIS: They went?\n\nEPLAN: They went to Russia. It was actually to Moscow to meet with family and\neventually ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2850.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some of their family began to come over. Madalyne discovered a whole\nnew set of cousins and so forth that began to immigrate and come to New York.\n\nGHITIS: Let's go back.\n\nEPLAN: I'm not aware of any other connection of the Holocaust.\n\nGHITIS: Where did you go to grammar school? What was your first school?\n\nEPLAN: First school was over on Tenth Street nearby. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We lived on Ninth Street. I\nused to walk to school every day through the back alleys and everything like that.\n\nGHITIS: What was the name of the school?\n\nEPLAN: It had the interesting name of Tenth Street School. However, when I was\nin the third or fourth grade, they changed the name to Clark Howell [Elementary]\nSchool in honor of the editor and publisher of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The plaque of both of those schools are in Piedmont Park now on a monument\nthere. I spent the first year of kindergarten, Atlanta was one of the few\ncities, no more than four or five in the south that had a public kindergarten. I\nwent to kindergarten at Inman School, which was an elementary school then. It's\nnow a middle school. Then I transferred. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They changed the districts, and I\ntransferred to Tenth Street School. I spent the first grade to the sixth grade\nin Tenth Street and then Clark Howell [School]. If you want me to sing the song,\nI can do that.\n\nGHITIS: High school. Where did you go to high school?\n\nEPLAN: In those days, they had a junior and a senior high. Not a middle school\nlike you have today. 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They had a pot belly stove that you\neither sat too close to and burned and took all your clothes of or you went to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the back of the room and kept your clothes on. That was all boys. There was a\nBoys High. There was a Tech High. There was a Girls High and a Commercial High.\nMy sister went to Girls High, which was on the other side. It eventually became\nRoosevelt High. When they integrated the schools in 1947, that is when they\nallowed girls to go to school with boys. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As I say, they practically ruined the\nschool. They allowed girls in. Boys High ceased to exist and became Grady High.\nDuring that period, when girls were separated from boys, my sister used to take\na streetcar which went down Peachtree Street. We were living on Ninth Street and\nPiedmont. She used to walk up there to Peachtree Street, go downtown, transfer\nto a streetcar, then went to Grant Park. Walked four blocks down to what was\nGirls High. I always felt ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she did far better in school than I did because she\ndid her schoolwork on the streetcar. I mention that because I've been heading a\nteam to look at the feasibility of bringing the streetcar back to Peachtree Street.\n\nGHITIS: What kind of student were you?\n\nEPLAN: Very, very lackadaisical. 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I became president of the district, which was all the way from\nBaltimore down to Miami ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and eventually national secretary of the organization. I\njust totally was absorbed by that. I really didn't do very well. Fortunately, at\nthe end of the war, Emory was interested in trying to get as many students as\nthey have and they overlooked that fact.\n\nGHITIS: When you look back at that era, can you think of individuals who\ninfluenced you?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EPLAN: Boys High was like a finishing school. It was like a private academy.\nEighty-six percent of my class went to college. That was unheard of in 1946.\nThat was due to an extraordinary faculty. There were people with Ph.Ds. There\nwas a physics teacher that had a Ph.D. from Heidelberg [University]. 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The Grady High ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"faculty\ncan't get over our tie to this high school. They want to know how did you\nachieve such a devotion to your school because that's what they're trying to do\nall the time.\n\nGHITIS: You mentioned that you were segregated boys from girls. What about\nracial segregation? Were you aware of what was going on?\n\nEPLAN: Yes. In fact, it's reflected on what I just told you. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I said there were\nfour high schools, Boys High, Tech High, Girls High, and Commercial School\ndowntown. That is not so. There was a comprehensive high school, [Booker T.]\nWashington High, near the Ashby Hunter area. That was the first integrated\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3360.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"comprehensive high school in the city and in the black community. Every educated\nand motivated black student went to that high school, eventually went to\nMorehouse [College], Clark Atlanta [University], and the girls to Spellman\n[College]. This was an amazing faculty. Amazing high school. You will note that\nI fail to mention ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when I ticked off what the high schools were because I had no\nidea what Washington High School was. It wasn't until I became active at the\ncity level that I became understanding of this extraordinary high school that\nblacks had. The graduation rates were very low. It was just not... the families\njust were not pushing the kids through that great, but it was an outstanding school.\n\nGHITIS: While we're on the subject, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd like to hear what you have to say about\nthe issue of race relations especially in our city.\n\nEPLAN: Yes.\n\nGHITIS: What you have seen through your life here.\n\nEPLAN: When I was growing up in the 1930s, except for people who were servants\nor people who cleaned the streets or doing very menial work, I was totally\nunaware of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a black population. You know, when I lived on Ninth Street, there was\na garage behind there with an apartment, used to be known as the servants\nquarters. We had a black person living there. There were blacks kind of\nscattered around where there were housing behind the main house which was\noccupied by whites. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I was totally... everything was segregated. Everything.\nThe restaurants, schools. There was no way that you interfaced in businesses,\nbanks, anything. No way that you interfaced with a black population. I kind of\naccepted that as a given. Again, my father had black clients. I'm not sure they\never paid him, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so I felt at ease if I were at all in the company of a black\nperson, but that black person usually was a menial person in his trade. What\noccurred is, that WWII changed all of that in several ways. One is that we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"began\nto clear out all of the slum property. I was involved. That was what I did for a\nliving. I had a master's in city planning from North Carolina and master's in\nsociology from Tennessee and studied abroad at the London School of Economics. I\ncame back to Atlanta in 1956. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3600.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They worked in\na factory. Atlanta had some factories in those days. It eventually became\nhousing occupied by African Americans, blacks. We cleared out all that. We built\nthe interstate highway which circled the downtown area. Between the initial\nurban renewal projects and the highways, we dislocated 55,000 people. 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By 1990,\nthe whites had moved to the suburbs, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"large family of whites particularly. Blacks\nhad moved in. We had a net proportion of 70 percent African Americans. Excuse\nme, 78 percent. The population became poorer, older, you know a lot of children,\nand much blacker. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We had a total... this was not unique in Atlanta, by the way.\nExcept in south, we had more blacks that they had in many other most other\ncities, particularly if you go out west and to the northeast. We had a total\nchange in the character of the city. By 1990, Atlanta was the poorest per family\nincome, one of the three poorest, sorry, one of the three poorest, together with\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3750.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"St. Louis [Missouri] and New Orleans [Louisiana] of its size in the country. We\nhad reached bottom. Between 1970 and 1990 through urban renewal, through the\nmovement of people out of the city through the interstate highway, the city of\nAtlanta, lost 100,000 population. It was the largest decline of any major city\nanywhere near our size ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3780.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the country. At the same time, the region was adding\nover a million people. It was the greatest contrast between what the region was\ndoing and what the central city was doing in the country. That was my work. I\nwas involved with the reclaiming, the revitalization of the city in private\npractice. I was in private practice. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In 1974, I went to the city as commissioner\nof budget and planning. I followed up the work I was doing for the city as a\ncity official and that type of thing, where we laid out this open land to be\nmarketed. But nobody was moving to the city. No investors were in the city. So\nthe tax base went down. The quality of schools went out. The maintenance of the\nstreets went down. The parks. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we began to grow\nagain in the 1990s. The [1996 Summer] Olympics was a factor, but there were a\nlot of factors. The rejection of the suburbs and its traffic, the fact that\nbanks began to lend money. When I bought this house in Ansley Park in 1961, I\ncouldn't get a loan. No bank would give me a loan in Ansley Park because\neverything was old. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Banks weren't investing in old things because old things\nwore out and were torn down. That was history at the time. You couldn't get a\nloan. I finally got a loan from a high school friend of mine who was a loan\nofficer at a savings and loan if I put up a big chunk of cash. I depended on our\nparents to help me raise that cash. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3930.0,3960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course, nobody was moving back in the\ncity in those days. All my friends lived in the suburbs. My stepmother came here\nto see the house. She looked around, and she says, \"Where do the young people\nlive?\" and that type of thing because she had just moved from the central part\nof Mobile out to a beautiful modern house in the suburbs and here we were buying\na house in this shabby neighborhood.\n\nGHITIS: Why did you choose to buy a house in-town in this area?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3960.0,3990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EPLAN: Number one, I grew up about a mile, mile and a half to here so I was\naccustomed. Number two, is as a city planner, I was accustomed to cities. I was\nan urban person. I wasn't as foreseeing as I now take credit for. But there was\na feeling about this neighborhood with its flowing park system and these\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=3990.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wonderful houses and so forth and the fact they were cheap. They were dirt\ncheap. I would be embarrassed to tell you how little I paid for this house,\nalthough it was far more than we ever expected to pay, ever thought we would\never pay. Madalyne thought that we were going bankrupt paying what we paid,\nwhich was a tiny little bit, but we took a risk and moved in here. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4080.0,4110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He\nbuilt the house that had a Italian living room, a German dining room, and a\nFrench parlor. He went to Europe and bought furniture. His wife snapped up\nwhatever suited her fancy here because it's an elegant house. Still has some of\nthe character. Because we've lived here for 45 years, we've changed it a great\ndeal ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4110.0,4140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to our taste. But Mr. Neubauer built this house. We're only the third\nowners. He lived here until we moved in in 1961, so that 49. There was a family\nowned it for 12 years. Then we've been here for 45 years.\n\nGHITIS: Let's go back in time.\n\nEPLAN: Oh yes.\n\nGHITIS: When you finished high school, what did you want to do with your life?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4140.0,4170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EPLAN: I'm somewhat embarrassed to tell you that as a city planner who thinks\nabout the future, I had not the faintest idea what I was going to do with my\nlife. I frankly am glad. I taught my children, at that point of your life, don't\neven think about where you're going to be for the rest of your life.\n\nGHITIS: Why?\n\nEPLAN: Don't even study ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4170.0,4200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what you think might be useful to you in your life\nbecause the undergraduate education is a unique one. It is the only time in your\nlife and the last time in your life almost, well not quite that strong, but,\nalmost the last time in your life, that you have the opportunity to break away\nfrom your family and to explore. I told my kids, once you get to college, you\ntake whatever subjects you find appealing. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4200.0,4230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Don't even think about. You know they\nused to tell me, well my friends parents, \"I took a course in movie making.\"\nThey would say, \"What are you doing to do with that?\" I said, \"Look here, you\nask them what they did with what they studied.\" None of them did what they\nstudied in college. I don't want you to even prepare for graduate school. You\nhave four years to experiment, to argue, to debate, to try things, to just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4230.0,4260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go\nout and spread your wings. Since I've lectured quite a bit, and I was faculty of\nGeorgia Tech a few years, so I know academia. I said, \"don't even declare a\nmajor until they threaten to kick you out.\" Declaring a major is for their own auditing.\n\nGHITIS: So, what happened with you? When did you discover urban planning?\n\nEPLAN: In my senior year at Emory. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4260.0,4290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was taking a very soft subject like\nsociology because I was really interested in people. I loved it. I really loved\nsociology. I later taught it. I really found it very satisfying to understand\nwhy people operate as a community. As opposed to psychology, operate as\nindividual. I was in, we had a sociology club, and we invited as a speaker a\nprofessor of sociology ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4290.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to speak to us. He happened to be chair of the Atlanta\nFulton County Planning Commission. He came. He wanted to talk about this new\nthing that they had that planned cities. He start talking about what planning\nwas all about. I went up to him afterwards and said that's fascinating. I was a\nsenior in college. Didn't have the foggiest idea what I was going to do. I find\nthat most students don't know as they go in to graduate school. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4320.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't even\nhave that thought. He says, \"Well\" he says, \"what you need to do is get a\nmaster's in city planning.\" He said, \"They're starting a course at Georgia\nTech.\" At that time, there were very, very few graduate programs in sociology\naround the country. There may have been a dozen. MIT [Massachusetts Institute of\nTechnology], [University of California] Berkeley, and that type of thing.\nChicago. But there weren't many. So, I went over to Georgia Tech. He told me the\nname of a professor in architecture who was kind of behind starting this\nprogram. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4350.0,4380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The guy told me, I met him in his office. He said, \"I'm sorry\" he says,\n\"We're going to organize it but about a year away.\" So what to do? I took\nanother easy way out. I was always taking the easy way out. I went for a\nmaster's in sociology. About half way through there, yes, half way through\nthere, I decided that I would never want to spend my life with sociologists.\nThey were the most boring, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4380.0,4410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"turned in people to the woes of community as anybody\never met. I don't want to be a sociologist. I also didn't have any money. My\nfather was sending me $10 a week to live on. So I took a job mimeographing a\nnewsletter for a church and doing proofreading of this or in the library or\nwhatever. It happens, the chairman of the Department of Sociology at University\nof Tennessee was, as luck would have it, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4410.0,4440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was chairman of the Knoxville planning\ncommission. He said \"They're looking for someone to do some research on how to\ndetect leadership in a community. How do you find out who the leaders in the\ncommunity are?\" He says, \"Go down there and tell them that you can do the\nresearch.\" So I went down there and they hired me. I did that research, and the\nhead of planning for Knoxville said... he knew I was not cut out to be a\nsociologist. Didn't want to be. He says, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4440.0,4470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"You ought to go for a master's in\nsociology.\" He says, \"I went to University of North Carolina,\" which has a very\ngood program. He said, 'Why don't you go there?\" Well, I had already spent a\nyear in graduate school. He called the head of the department. I mean you cannot\nget into this school today. It was like Emory. I came along when they were\nlooking for students, anybody, regardless. I was doing pretty well, actually. By\nthat time, I had begun to wake up. I had an experience, an epiphany. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4470.0,4500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was asked\nto go to a Zionist camp on the west coast. It wasn't really a Zionist camp but\nthey really preached Zionism, and that type, called Brandeis Camps. There were\nthree in the country. There was on the west coast. There was one in North\nGeorgia, where Madalyne had gone to a Brandeis Camp, and there was one in\nupstate New York. My sister had gone to it. I went there. They had chosen the\nyouth leadership about the 50 or so ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4500.0,4530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"youth leadership of the country and various\ncommunities. Gave them a stipend to go to this camp. We lived on a kibbutz type\nsetting. Worked in the fields and everything. These were the brightest people I\nhad been around. I suddenly found, as bad as I was in school, that I could\ncompete on an intellectual basis with these people. It was a shock. I didn't\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4530.0,4560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"realize that. For some reason, except for an eighth grade teacher who once told\nme that, except for Mrs. Howell, I never really woke up to the fact that I\nreally could compete intellectually with very, very bright people. Not that I\nfeel myself that enormously bright, but at least I could hold my own. I came\nback, and suddenly my grades began to move up into all Bs ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4560.0,4590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because I was not\nmaking Bs totally before, and then all As in my senior year. That's when I found\nI need to continue to educate. I'm just starting. That's when I went off to\ngraduate school there. That's why I felt I compelled to go to graduate school in\ncity planning which became interesting to me. That's how I became a city\nplanner. I eventually went to the London School of Economics for doctorate studies.\n\nGHITIS: Did you finish?\n\nEPLAN: I only spent one year there. I wasn't interested in a doctorate. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4590.0,4620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I just\nwanted to go to Europe. I was given the GI Bill to pay for it. I was getting\n$150 a month. I began teaching with the University of Maryland on air force\nbases. I was living high on the hog. My father paid for my way over there. For\nsome reason, did not give me a round trip ticket. I never quite understood that.\n\nGHITIS: You said you had a GI Bill?\n\nEPLAN: Yes. I was in the army. I didn't mention the army.\n\nGHITIS: Yes.\n\nEPLAN: How about that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4620.0,4650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GHITIS: Tell me about that.\n\nEPLAN: In 1950, I'd graduated from Emory, and I applied to go to graduate school\nto University Tennessee in sociology. That summer I went off as a counselor to\nBlue Star Camp. I spent the summer up there in this wonderful setting up in the\nmountains in North Carolina. It was just glorious. Met a beautiful girl. Came\nback, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4650.0,4680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and on my desk was a notice to report for duty at the army because there\nwas the Korean War on. That didn't sit terribly well with me. I went down there\nand I told them. My father accompanied me. I said, \"I want to go to graduate\nschool. I've already been accepted and so forth. I'm only going there for a\nyear. I'd like to go.\" They agreed. Let me go. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4680.0,4710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was young, and they agreed to\nlet me go. Then at the end of that year, I wanted to go to North Carolina, which\nwas a two-year graduate program in city planning. They approved my continuing\nit. By the second year, the draft was off. The war was over. The draft was off.\nIt wasn't exactly like [President William] Bill Clinton because I wasn't\nprotesting. I just wanted to go to graduate school. If they had drafted me, I\nwould have gone. 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They\nselected 15 people in the army from around the country to come together and sent\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4740.0,4770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to Fort Gordon. Everybody else except one person was from Mississippi. They were\nall here from out of town. We were the only people in the army, I think, that\nhad master's degrees. They selected us to write the officers advanced course in\nmilitary government. I spent the next 19 months with my group to writing this\ncourse. We had no idea about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4770.0,4800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how to govern. Had no idea about that, but we were\nsociologists and economists. There was a lawyer. Really bright people. The guy\nwho was a lawyer was from Harvard [University]. He clerked for Chief Justice\nWarren. Somebody else had a master's from Columbia [University]. MBA. Studied in\nIndia. It was a profound group of people. One guy became a principal of a high\nschool. It was really great. We were bonded because we were free ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4800.0,4830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of any other\nduty. We could get off every weekend. We were [unintelligible] our papers were\nbeing held in Washington. We were freed to leave every weekend. Of course, we\ncame to Atlanta or we went off to Charleston or went to Savannah. We had all\nthese friends from AZA. We rented a place here, and we had a great time. Didn't\nuse up any leave. Eventually, I had so much leave that I went to Europe for two\nweeks with a couple of friends and so forth while I was still in the army.\nThat's another story, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4830.0,4860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interesting but another one. I got out of the army. I got\nout early on the promise, because I said I wanted to go off work on my\ndoctorate. I had applied to London School of Economics. I got out a little\nearly, so I went to Georgia Tech and studied advanced statistics and German and\nI don't know what other course. I went off to Europe and stayed there. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4860.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I began\nteaching, as I mentioned, on air force bases, sociology, toward summer in\nScotland at two air force bases. Then I took off with a pack on my back for five\nmonths and hitchhiked all up through Scandinavia, down through Europe, over to\nVienna and down to Israel. I ended up going across Turkey from Istanbul to\nIskenderun, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4890.0,4920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is the base of the port on the southern edge of Turkey. Caught\na boat of some type and went to Haifa [Israel]. Meanwhile, before I left London\nI knew I was going to Constantinople. I applied to for a pass to go across the\nBosphorus over to Odessa, which was the town my grandfather come from. I was\ncurious to see Odessa. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4920.0,4950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were in a cold war, and they weren't about to give it.\nHe says, when you get to Constantinople you can see if you can get over to the\nBosphorus and so forth. But they wouldn't let me through. The only way... you\ncouldn't go through the Arab countries to get to Israel, so I caught a boat to\nHaifa. I lived on a kibbutz of a friend of mine who had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4950.0,4980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"made aliyah to Israel. I\nwas staying in a youth hostel. I lived in youth hostels all the way through\nhere. Stayed in a youth hostel in Jerusalem. Came downstairs the next morning,\nthere was nobody there except one other student who spoke French, very little\nEnglish. I spoke nothing except I knew enough Yiddish to get by with my German.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=4980.0,5010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The guy who ran the place, the warden, his wife was there and he says, \"There's\na war on.\" I said, \"What do you mean?\" He says, \"Well look out the door.\" I\nlooked out the door and all of these New York reject taxi cabs were running out,\nguns sticking out the window heading toward the Negev. I said, \"Well that's\nterrible.\" I knew that in 1948 they wouldn't let you out. Americans couldn't get\nout in 1956. I said \"What shall I do?\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5010.0,5040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I went down to Jerusalem to be a tourist.\nGo out and look at all the things. There was a notice. If you wanted to leave,\nreport to Haifa and the U.S. Navy would pick you up, a destroyer. So I went to\nHaifa, and I got on a U.S. Navy ship. They went to Cyprus. They put me on a\nfreighter and they docked in Naples on the dock. They eventually sent me a bill\nfor this which I totally ignored. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5040.0,5070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I worked my way up the coast to Rome because I\nhad a very close friend, Jerry Cooper, the architect Cooper Carry, who was a\nFulbright scholar in Rome. I worked my way to his apartment and knocked on the\ndoor and said I'm here until I can get a boat out of here. By the time I got a\nboat, one more point. The boat I had to return to go back to London to get on\nwhat was the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5070.0,5100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SS Andrea Doria. Unfortunately, by the time those two weeks were\nover, the Andrea Doria sunk. So, there I was trying to figure out how I'm going\nto get back to America. Jerry was anxious to get rid of me because I had bought\nsome goat skin rugs at a market place in Constantinople that smelled terrible\nand the housekeeper really wanted me to get out of there. I finally found a\nGreek ship that would ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5100.0,5130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"take me back to America and New York and so forth. Worst\nwine I ever had. I never got over Greek wine since that time. What have I missed?\n\nGHITIS: How long did you stay in Israel at this time all in all. In 1956?\n\nEPLAN: Probably less than two months. 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We went back and looked at\nthat site when Madalyne and I went back to Israel.\n\nGHITIS: Was this your first time in Israel in 1956?\n\nEPLAN: Yes.\n\nGHITIS: How did it feel?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5160.0,5190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EPLAN: It felt marvelous because, while I'm not all that religious, the history\nitself was profound to me. Because I had, when I was a student in London, I had\ngone up to Northern Wales to see the castles that were built by Edward I to keep\nthe Irish out. That was 1200s. I think. That's old. Then I ended up in Rome. I\nwent to the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5190.0,5220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roman Forum, which you know 400, 500 years before the common era. I\nsaid well that's really old. Then I went to Israel. I was just really taken back\nby the... we're talking about still the 1950s when Israel was still a totally\ndifferent place than it is now. 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But then to be\nthere was, as I said, was a profound kind of thing to happen to me.\n\nGHITIS: What was your first job?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5280.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EPLAN: At the end of 1956, I arrived back in Atlanta. I had written a person\nthat had a city planning consulting firm in Rye, New York, which is just north\nof the city. I was interested in that job, and he accepted me. I came back to be\nwith my friends and folks for a month or two because I had been away ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5310.0,5340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"through all\nmy graduate work, Tennessee, North Carolina, London, all my traveling across the\ncontinent everything. I had been away a long time, so I stayed a little while. I\nwas prepared to go. I was walking down the street and I came across a former\nstudent friend of mine in graduate school at North Carolina in city planning. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We\nrenewed old acquaintances and everything. I said, \"What are you doing?\" \"I'm\nworking for this economist.\" He says, \"You've got to meet him. He is really\ngreat. Before you leave, I would like to introduce you to him.\" So he took me\nover to meet a gentleman by the name of Phil Hammer, who is the former head of\nMetropolitan Planning Commission. Was chief planner of Metropolitan Planning\nCommission. Had begun to turn out the first ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5370.0,5400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"region wide plans. In those days,\nthere were two counties in the city of Atlanta, was the region. He began to talk\nto me and offered me a job as an economist as a land economist, not a\nmacroeconomics to deal with those trends but actually how land is developed.\nTurns out, this man was one of the leaders in this country in land economics. He\nhad gone to Harvard. 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So immediately, my first career was in urban economics,\nstudying ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5430.0,5460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what the basis of the prosperity in a city, or the lack of city, what\nit would take to revitalize the city. What I learned from him was a couple of\nthings. One of them is, we would go into the city. While I would observe this\nparticular characteristic of that city, or that characteristic, or whatever, he\nhad extraordinary understanding of the linkage that occurred ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5460.0,5490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"between elements of\nthe society and how one played on the other. Housing, neighborhoods, land use,\nparks, whatever. How they fit together to create the kind of city that we were\nlooking at and, therefore, then what kind of needs that that city or that county\nhad. 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Later became other\npartners in the name, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5520.0,5550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but it was named after him. He was the director of\nplanning for the region of Atlanta. Later, he left there to form his own firm,\nhis economics consulting firm. I learned economics from him and that type of\nthing. I went back. From there, I moved to New Jersey, actually New York. I\nlived and I commuted to New Jersey to work for one of the country's largest\nurban planning consulting firms ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5550.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the country. I was with them for three or\nfour years during which I got married. I also worked in cities all over the\ncountry, San Jose downtown, the master plan for Poughkeepsie, New York, in the\nmid-west in the mid-winter which I was not used to doing, economic analysis and\nurban renewal projects.\n\nGHITIS: What year was this?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5580.0,5610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EPLAN: We're talking about the late 1950s that I was with them. Mid 1950s with\nHammer. Late 1950s, with this firm in New Jersey called Kando and Fleisig [sp].\nDuring that period, I had met Madalyne while I was in Atlanta working for Hammer\n\u0026 Company, but I moved to New York. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5610.0,5640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Later, we began to date seriously. We were\nmarried in 1959. Soon after, we began to have a child. We did have a child, not\nbegan, but we did. We were interested to get back south, to return south. I\njoined a city planning consulting firm in Atlanta, which was called Hidel and\nAdeley [sp]. That broke up a year later, and we formed a partnership among the\nfour of us. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5640.0,5670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was with them for 12 years throughout most of the 1960s into the\nearly 1970s. At that time, I became president of the company, which was the\nlargest city planning consulting firm in this part of the country. One of the\nlargest in the country, actually. I was with them until 1974, at which time, the\ncity ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5670.0,5700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"elected its\n\nfirst African American as mayor. Maynard Jackson came under a new charter that\nthe legislature had set up for Atlanta which gave enormous strength to the\nfunction of city planning. Maynard asked me to come in as commissioner of budget\nand planning. First time that has been joined.\n\nGHITIS: How did Maynard know you?\n\nEPLAN: I had a number of people who were very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5700.0,5730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"close to him in his campaign. Our\npaths had crossed because I had done some significant work, the master plan for\nthe capitol of the state of Georgia for Governor [Jimmy] Carter at the time. I\nhad done the feasibility study on the new Atlanta stadium, which helped bring\nthe Braves to Atlanta, the first major southern league firm. I had done\ntransportation studies for the state dealing with the outer ring highway. 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His finance director, some of his closest\nadvisors ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5760.0,5790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were close friends of mine. He asked them about me and later on he\ncalled me. I went to meet him, really for the first time that we sat down, and\nhe told me about his desire to come in and take charge of the budgeting process\nas well as the planning process. Which, as I say, was enormously strengthened\nunder the new charter. 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That's very rare.\n\nGHITIS: What was your title?\n\nEPLAN: I was commissioner of budget and planning.\n\nGHITIS: Were you in charge of the budget?\n\nEPLAN: I shared a budget function with the commissioner of finance which was\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5820.0,5850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more or less an auditing function. They kept up where the money was going and,\ntherefore, not to overspend and that type of thing and to propose the level of\nbudgeting at each department. But I was really in charge of budget policy. Where\nshould we be spending our money? How can we implement the comprehensive plan,\nfor instance?\n\nGHITIS: For that era of that period in your career, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5850.0,5880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what is your proudest accomplishment?\n\nEPLAN: I mentioned that the project among one or two that I really remember as\nimportant to me of an accomplishment. One is that I was the chief planning\nconsultant on the design of MARTA. I had enormous opportunities to shape that\nsystem to serve various populations, to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5880.0,5910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rebuild the city because we were losing\npopulation and how we could induce development certain areas and avoid damaging\nother areas like neighborhoods, sensitive areas. But to carry people to\nhospitals and parks and things of this sort. Things that the engineers don't\nthink about. They think about the engineering. They've got a car that goes 75,\n80 miles an hour and they need to move it very rapidly. I want to slow it down.\nHave more stations and so forth. 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My system allowed the neighborhoods\nand the representatives ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=5970.0,6000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the people to sit at the table at that time and\nargue. It's called the neighborhood planning unit system. I identified 177\ndifferent neighborhoods, far too many we could work with the size staff. What I\ndid, I clustered them in groupings of 24 clusters of neighborhoods, called\nneighborhood planning units. That has become a model in many other cities in the\ncountry of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6000.0,6030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how you can actually build in a system for formal communications\nbetween a city and its citizens. When you have such a changeover in the nature\nof a city like Atlanta has where the people who lived here before are not the\npeople who live here now and quite a turnover. It's very hard for political\nleadership to communicate because they don't know who the leaders are and that\ntype of thing. 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It has endured since that time when I introduced it in 1975.\n\nGHITIS: There are people who believe that in Atlanta developers have ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6060.0,6090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"way too\nmuch power. What do you think about that in shaping the city?\n\nEPLAN: I think it's an overstatement, a rather significant overstatement of the\ninfluence of developers. Before you had a comprehensive plan that is produced\nannually where citizens participated in that and it becomes the law of the city.\nBefore, you had a means ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6090.0,6120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for citizens that are required that you have to go to\ncitizens to get their reaction to development. Before you had that, that was\nprobably true. But Maynard was very, very insistent that the citizens have a\nvoice and that the plan of the city be followed so that you could not change a\nzoning if it was inconsistent with the plan unless you changed the plan. You\ncould only do that quarterly. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6120.0,6150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was not very easy with the citizens already\nhaving helped produced this plan. They had a proprietary interest in preserving\nthe plan. I think we've achieved a wonderful balance because we need\ndevelopment. Development is extremely important to supporting a growing tax base\nthat pays for our schools. That pays for utility systems. That pays for our\nparks or whatever. We need that tax base to continue to grow particularly as\ncitizens ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6150.0,6180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"increase and the demand increase, particularly where workforce coming\nfrom around the region. We only have perhaps 400,000 people in the city who live\nin the city. But we have 800,000 to 900,000, more than twice that many, who come\nhere every day to use our parks, commit crime, and come into our traffic. We\nhave got to serve a huge population, and that population has to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6180.0,6210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have a tax base\nin which we can preserve it.\n\nGHITIS: What happened after you held that position? Where did you go from there?\n\nEPLAN: I decided, even though Maynard was reelected in 1978, I decided that I\nprobably... it was a very difficult high stress job, and I was offered the\nopportunity to come to Georgia Tech to head the graduate city planning program.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6210.0,6240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was one of the first graduate programs in city planning in the country. It\nwon a place of great prestige, like Georgia Tech has great prestige. The program\nwas very, very good. I was involved. I was invited to come in to help build that\nprogram, and I did. In 1959, sorry, 1979, I came in as a full professor and as\nhead of the graduate city planning program ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6240.0,6270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at Georgia Tech. I stayed in that\nposition for four years working with the faculty to update it because it needed\nredoing and trying to build its student body. After that, I decided that I would\ngo back into private practice. 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I had already run one of the\nlargest firms in the country in city planning ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6300.0,6330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as a consultant. I decided just to\nbe on my own. For a number of years, from about 1984 to 1990, six years, I just\nserved as an individual consultant. I worked with teams on various projects,\nmaster plans for cities around the country, a lot of housing studies in those\ndays, transportation work, and so forth. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6360.0,6390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maynard Jackson, who had left office in 1982, went back into\nprivate practice. Andy [Andrew Jackson] Young became the mayor for eight years.\nThen Maynard came back in 1990 to be reelected in January. In September, we got\nthe Olympics. Within three weeks, he called me to see if I would be ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6390.0,6420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"willing to\ncome back to the city, not only to be commissioner of planning, an exciting\nchange in my roles, but planning, but also to begin to get the city ready for\nthe 1996 Olympics. It was an opportunity of a life time to have this role to\nhelp get the city ready for what was to become the biggest event in its history\nand to be offered that opportunity. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6420.0,6450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Within two and half weeks, I closed down all\nmy work, all my jobs, and went back to the city. This time, in a slightly\ndifferent role. Still commissioner of planning but now commissioner of planning\nand development. I was in charge of all permitting and enforcement and that type\nof thing instead of budget policy. 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He rose\nfrom being a peddler ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6480.0,6510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to become a vice president of a major bank. My father went\nto school here and then to Emory University to become part of the first law\nschool graduating class. I felt that I had a service to provide and this gave me\nan opportunity to go back into the public sector and particularly to be involved\nin shaping its future, literally. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6510.0,6540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was very thrilled to go back. For the next\nsix years in preparation for the Olympics, it was 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.\nI probably didn't take more than two or three months of vacation in six years. I\njust had to keep my finger because this was one of the... we are the smallest\ncity ever to hold the Olympics, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6540.0,6570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and we were going to have the biggest Olympics\nin its history and it was going to be focused on the downtown area. So it was an\nincredible number of people. Eleven million tickets were being sold in what was\nthen a fairly modest sized city.\n\nGHITIS: What were some of the biggest challenges you had to face?\n\nEPLAN: We had only six years to think about how we could formulate a program,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6570.0,6600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"create an organization to carry out that program, secure the funds necessary to\nconstruct the program, and to build it in time for the for the late July 1996 Olympics.\n\nGHITIS: If you could point your finger at things about Atlanta that you created\nin that period what would they be?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6600.0,6630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EPLAN: There was just so much that we were able to do. The program I drew up and\nwhich the mayor took to show at the International Olympic Committee before the\n1992 Barcelona Convention, he laid out this program. No city had laid out a\nprogram for making improvements. They had laid out programs for the games ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6630.0,6660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and\nall of the accommodations and the logistics and all that stuff. That was in the\nhands of the Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games. ACOG. But no city had\nreally prior had set up a program to transform itself to seek its future. What I\ndid, because we had an annual comprehensive plan, we had pretty well decided\nafter 25 years of annually thinking about our future, to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6660.0,6690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"begin to describe the\nfuture that we would like to become. I used the Olympics as an opportunity to\nbegin building toward that future. 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We began to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6810.0,6840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"re-chart the kind of economy\nthat we would need in the twenty-first century.\n\nGHITIS: Did the Olympic games live up to your expectations?\n\nEPLAN: The games themselves?\n\nGHITIS: The event.\n\nEPLAN: The event itself? Absolutely. What my expectations were, that we would\nintroduce ourselves to the world. No one knew Atlanta except through Scarlett\nO'Hara and through the burning of Atlanta ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6840.0,6870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Gone with the Wind. There were, I\nmean what was Atlanta known for? The only other event of notoriety of enormous\nfame was it was the birthplace of Martin Luther King, Jr., and the birthplace of\nthe Civil Rights Movement, which attracted the attention of a huge proportion of\nthe world that that Martin Luther King represented. Not only African, but the\npoor countries in Latin America and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6870.0,6900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that type of thing. That was still limited\nto actually observing. But by bringing this huge number of people from around\nthe world to see this city and what it was like was different than just hearing\nabout the city. From that standpoint, I really feel that the Olympics began to\nbuild on what we've become in the twenty-first century and that is a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6900.0,6930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"global\ncity. We have now the largest airport in the world. Today, we have the fastest\ngrowing region in the country.\n\nGHITIS: I understand at the time of the Olympics the children of the Israeli\nathletes who were murdered in Munich [Munich massacre] were in Atlanta. Did you\nhave opportunity to meet with them?\n\nEPLAN: No, I did not. 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But it was ferociously difficult,\nbecause one of the things we had to do, which is always essential in achieving a\nplan, whether a small plan or a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=6960.0,6990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"regional plan or whatever. The most central to\nits success is gaining the consensus of the people and the governments and the\nleaderships that they would agree to this plan. 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We had to set up a special committee outside\nthe city, partly chaired by the mayor and by one of the bank presidents and then\nrepresentative of the people to begin to hire staff on this group called CODA,\nthe Corporation for Olympic Development in Atlanta, to implement not only the\nplans that I put forth but how other plans began ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7020.0,7050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to be brought to CODA's\nattention that enlarge the basis for which I began. They had an incredible\nstaff. I recruited a lot of them, including [Governor] Shirley Franklin. I went\nto Shirley, who was working for the Olympic committee. After many meetings, I\nfinally talked her into coming over back to the city. She had served as chief\nadministrative officer for Andy Young during eight years. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7050.0,7080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then she left.\nEventually ended up at the Olympic committee. I went over and induced her to\ncome back to Atlanta and head up this development committee that set up the\nCorporation for Olympic Development in Atlanta, which she did, which gave great\nprestige because she was very popular even then to what we were trying to\nachieve and could gain consensus. Then we had to start raising the money and\nthat type of thing and design the project and implement it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7080.0,7110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by a date specific.\nThe 19th of July, we had to be ready. In fact, you had to be ready a year before\nin the Olympic venues because you had to have an event that tested out the\nstadiums and the tracks and the water projects and so forth. In our projects,\nwhere we put emphasis on the physical form of the city, of the city itself,\nwhich the Olympic Committee wasn't interested that much in. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7110.0,7140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course, we joined\nin traffic, how we were going to get people down town. Fortunately, we had a\nMARTA system, a transit system, that allowed that to occur.\n\nGHITIS: What do you think of Shirley Franklin as her performance as the mayor of\nthe city?\n\nEPLAN: In the first place, I'm not surprised in what she's achieved. She came in\nat a time when the city was at a fairly low point. 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We had worked when she was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7170.0,7200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"chief\noperating officer. I had worked on projects in the city that she was interested\nin, that the city was interested in. I was brought in to help in in Ivan Allen's\nterm and then in Andy Young. I knew Andy Young during the civil rights days. I\nwas active there. I got to know him those days. 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The role of Atlanta, generally, in the region.\nShe attends ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7230.0,7260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"regional meetings. She's a great spokesman on behalf of Atlanta, for\nall of Atlanta. We now flow over 28 counties. We've just absolutely gone through\na chaos. I ascribe to it as the big bang, where we exploded from a central city\nto this city of 80 different governments. 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Nationally, she has increasingly begun to be\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7290.0,7320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"recognized by national organizations as a person who speaks in behalf of urban\nareas and cities throughout the country. She set an agenda. I have to say, I was\nable to influence that agenda a bit by trying to get... I participated in laying\na regional commuter system for all north Georgia, 12 lines ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7320.0,7350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coming into downtown.\nWe spent $7.8 million designing a downtown station for the future, the\ntwenty-first century, because we're now moving into a rail age of building a\ncommuter system. Actually, purchased for the city the land on which that station\nwill be located and that type of thing. I convinced her that this was going to\nbe a marvelous project for her to focus on. 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I've been working on\nwhat we call workforce housing or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7470.0,7500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"affordable housing. My main topics, as a\nconsultant, has been to start looking at a new form of transportation, and that\nis to reintroduce the street car back into the city, because we turned around\nthe loss of population in the 1990s. The 100,000 people we lost in the 1970s and\n1980s, we began to grow again, partly because of the Olympics. 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Tom is very much interested in the streetcar.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7650.0,7680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They're now coming out with a plan that shows a beautiful upgraded Peachtree\nStreet with a streetcar in it. The mayor has begun to endorse the streetcar. So,\nwe're moving toward building that. I'm working, just one addition. I'm working\non three streetcar projects now to serve the Emory CDC, the Center for Disease\nControl, Emory Health Care, the VA Hospital, which is a huge area of draw ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7680.0,7710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"every\nday, but it's not connected to an interstate or Marta, to begin to connect that\narea with streetcars to Decatur and to MARTA at Piedmont.\n\nGHITIS: You said how busy you were, especially during the Olympics. How did it\nwork out with your family? 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As a major\nfocus of their lives of an obligation that they have to make this city a great city.\n\nGHITIS: Have you been involved politically also in any particular party?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7830.0,7860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EPLAN: I've always been a Democrat. I was one of the founders of the Fulton\nCounty Democrat Party many years ago, but I really haven't been attached to\nparties as such. I've been very involved with political life. 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What did you like about her?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=7980.0,8010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EPLAN: I mentioned her intelligence. She was very attractive to me. Extremely\nwell read. But there was a dignity about her that I had found in my mother. That\nelevated her in my mind. Maybe other women had that. 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It helped me, who\nwas much more judgmental, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=8070.0,8100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to stand back sometimes and bite my tongue and be less\njudgmental and accepting of other people. She taught me so much of how to... I\ncould be in leader ship positions, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=8100.0,8130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but I needed to be mindful of the opinions\nand the feelings of other people that I never got in the same way from anyone else.\n\nGHITIS: Do you remember the moment when you saw her for the first time?\n\nEPLAN: I remember the first time I saw her. I had just come back after over a\nyear and a half of studying and traveling in Europe. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=8130.0,8160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The weekend I came back,\nthe week I came back, I got a call from a good friend of our family, who, that\nher son I had known growing up, and his wife were coming in town. She was\nhaving, he was in the service, and she was having a group of his friends. She\nheard I was back in town. She was very close to my family and would I come to a\nparty for them. I said yes. I had just arrived the week before. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=8220.0,8250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was Mrs.\nFrankel who called me to come to this party for her son Ted and his wife Sidelle\nwho was coming in town on leave and would I come to that? Yes. Mack invited\nMadalyne and her roommate to come to the party as well. I met her then.\n\nGHITIS: What did you see?\n\nEPLAN: I called her the next day for a date. 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It was dwindling away.\nIt recovered a great deal, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=8490.0,8520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"though not hugely, but a great deal in recent years\nwhen the University of South Alabama was formed and then the medical school was\nput down there. It has kind of turned around somewhat.\n\nGHITIS: What kind of wedding was it?\n\nEPLAN: It was a small wedding where Madalyne's mother invited every Jew in town.\nThis was her only daughter. This was a one shot. I hate to say how many people\nwere there. 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But he did.\n\nGHITIS: What day did you get married?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=8640.0,8670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EPLAN: August 17, 1959.\n\nGHITIS: How old were you?\n\nEPLAN: Almost 31.\n\nGHITIS: Your wife?\n\nEPLAN: She was 26. She was a child bride.\n\nGHITIS: Where did you go on your honeymoon?\n\nEPLAN: I was living in New York and working in this job in Newark actually. I\nwas living in New York, but I would never bring her into where I was living in\nNew York. It was kind of slummy. It was right outside 15th Street. 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We moved back in 1961 to Atlanta in time\nfor Ivan Allen's election to be the new mayor of Atlanta.\n\nGHITIS: You have been married for 48 years.\n\nEPLAN: Yes.\n\nGHITIS: What have you learned about what makes a marriage work?\n\nEPLAN: I think you have to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=8760.0,8790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"observe that other person and respect that other\nperson and what that other person is. And where there may be a difference, to\nknow how to adjust your own behavior to accommodate those differences. 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What I enjoyed was an\nopportunity for me, because I had traveled so much in my work, and in my free\ntime and everything around the world, the great pleasure I found was to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=8910.0,8940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"introduce Madalyne to what I most enjoyed so that in 1970 we parked the\nchildren. Elise was about eight. Jana was about six and a half. Harlan was two\nor three. We took off by ourselves. Well where? 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I wanted, the desire to\nshare with her the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=8970.0,9000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pleasures that I had had, was very helpful, and her\nwillingness to join in on what I wanted to show her, was part of the extensions\nof both of us reached out that I think helped cement us into really, if not one\npersonality, but in a very joint personality.\n\nGHITIS: You just said ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9000.0,9030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how you had to accommodate, you had to do the\naccommodation for her. 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We were part of Judaism. I was raised, I was active in\nJewish organizations. I was national this and that in AZA, the junior order of\nB'nai B'rith. I had gone to Brandeis Camp on the west coast. I had been involved\nwith Judaism but not so much the religious part of it. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9120.0,9150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She came from a more\nreligious part, more traditional part, I would call it. Her parents were both\nimmigrants from Russia, and they were part of the Jewish community that had been\nestablished in Mobile. 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That's terrible I don't remember the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9300.0,9330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hebrew name for Jacob.\n\nGHITIS: Yacov.\n\nEPLAN: Yacov. Well thank you. Yakov, of course. The rabbi suggested Yakova. That\nbecame Jana's Hebrew name.\n\nGHITIS: Then later on you had...\n\nEPLAN: Two years later came Harlan. There were three years between Elise and\nJana. Elise was born in 1960, Jana in 1963, and Harlan in 1965. I had an uncle\nwho was my mother's brother who never married. 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He later passed away.\nIt occurred to me that we didn't have anybody who had really been close to us\nwho had recently died ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9390.0,9420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we felt we might honor with a name. I reached back\nand asked Madalyne if she would mind naming him after my uncle Harry who never\ngot married. No one ever knew. There was nobody to remember Uncle Harry, so\nHarlan was named after my Uncle Harry.\n\nGHITIS: What is his Hebrew name?\n\nEPLAN: I knew you would ask me that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9420.0,9450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Give me time. I'll remember. It's like\nHalom. I'm sorry. I'll think of it.\n\nGHITIS: When your children were growing up, when you were raising them, what\nvalues did you want to transmit to them?\n\nEPLAN: I never felt much about an afterlife, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9450.0,9480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that being Jewish, as opposed\nto being Christian, I didn't feel it was our motivation to live a good life in\norder to go to heaven or to live a good life in order for something to follow or\nwhatever. I never felt that feeling. I felt you need to live a good life in\norder to improve the world, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9480.0,9510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to fix the world, where injustices are and that type\nof thing. I've always felt that service is to community and to people and ending\nthe world that you can look back on as a better place for your brief existence\nhere was the motivation that ought ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9510.0,9540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to guide you. I've always felt in my\nteaching, and with my children, that they need to decide what it is that they\nwould like to become and what is it that they would value to be remembered for\nand gear their life to that end as something ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9540.0,9570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that ought to be recalled of that\nperson having been in existence here on this earth. It's a very brief moment\nthat we all are alive. I always tried to get them to be a part of movements that\nwould uplift people into ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9570.0,9600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so that they can live a better life. Whether it's\nteaching like Madalyne did or whether or not it's clearing bad housing and\ngetting people to live better housing or whether or no it's finding jobs.\nWhatever they were involved in, they should value whatever they leave when they\nwant to leave behind. They ought to write it down, and every once every five\nyears or so ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9600.0,9630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they'll look at it again and see if that, if fact, is what they\nstill want to do and still try to obtain.\n\nGHITIS: How do you see the future of the Jewish community in Atlanta?\n\nEPLAN: I don't look at the numbers. We're exceeding now 100,000. When I was\ngrowing up, you had maybe 20,000 or 25,000. Now we're well over. People ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9630.0,9660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"give\neven a much larger number. The problem is that number one, only half of those\npeople are members of any kind of Jewish organization, half at best. Number two,\nthey're scattered enormously, so they don't have the centralizing opportunity to\nknow each other the way we knew each other and that type of thing, nor will we\never do that. 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I think the establishment of a lot of small\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=9690.0,9720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/transcript/31743/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"congregations are fine, but I think it's very important for Ahavath Achim, the\nTemple, Shearith Israel, and other in-town communities, Or VeShalom, to serve an\nin-town population because I think that one of the fastest growing parts of the\nJewish community is in-town. 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It involved the vast majority of the world's countries—including all of the great powers—eventually forming two opposing military alliances: the Allies and the Axis. World War II was the most widespread and destructive war in history. It was also the deadliest conflict in human history. It directly involved more than 100 million people from over 30 countries, making it difficult to calculate casualties. In addition to millions of soldiers wounded or killed on battlefields, the war was marked by mass deaths of civilians, including the Holocaust (in which approximately 6 million Jews were killed) and the strategic bombing of industrial and population centers (in which approximately one million were killed, and which included the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki), it resulted in an estimated 50 million to 85 million fatalities.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/annotation_set/557/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eTurner Field was a baseball park located in Atlanta, Georgia, on the southside of Atlanta. The stadium was built where early communities of Sephardic and Eastern European Jews lived in modest urban dwellings. From 1997 until 2016, the field served as the home ballpark to the Atlanta Braves of Major League Baseball (MLB). Originally built as Centennial Olympic Stadium in 1996 to serve as the centerpiece of the 1996 Summer Olympics, the stadium was converted into a baseball park to serve as the new home for the Braves. Turner Field is located less than one block from the site of the Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium, their home ballpark from 1966 to 1996. When the Braves moved to a new stadium, SunTrust Park, which opened in north Atlanta in 2016, the stadium was reconfigured for the second time, redesigned for college football as Georgia State University Stadium\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/annotation_set/557/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eShul is a Yiddish word for synagogue that is derived from a German word meaning “school,” and emphasizes the synagogue's role as a place of study.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/annotation_set/557/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAhavath Achim Congregation (often referred to as “AA”) was organized in 1886 by Orthodox Jews of Eastern European descent as Congregation Ahawas Achim (Brotherly Love). 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He was also involved in the creation of the law school at Emory University and one of the founding members of the faculty. Hirsch was very involved in philanthropic endeavors, particularly those in the Jewish community. He was a member of the Hebrew Benevolent Congregation (the Temple), the Federation of Jewish Charities, the United Jewish Charities, and the Independent Order of B'nai B'rith.  He helped found The Atlanta Committee for German-Jewish Relief and served as chairman of the organization.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=720.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/annotation_set/557/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003ePhilip Weltner (1887-1981), was a former chancellor of Georgia's university system. 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After serving two years in the United States Army, Weltner practiced law in Atlanta and worked to defeat Georgia's county-unit system and preserve the public school system after state leaders threatened to close the schools rather than integrate. In 1962, Weltner was elected to represent Georgia’s 5th congressional district in the House of Representatives as a Democrat. After leaving politics, Weltner continued his legal career, first as a judge in the Fulton County Superior Court from 1976 to 1981 and then serving as an associate justice of the Supreme Court of Georgia from 1981 to 1992. 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As Atlanta continued to grow above the viaducts, the original street level was raised by one-and-a-half stories, and a five-block area was completely covered up. The lower facades of historic buildings constructed during the city's post-Civil War Reconstruction Era boom remained relatively untouched until the area was rediscovered and opened as a tourist attraction in 1969.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/annotation_set/557/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Jefferson Hotel, built in 1921, was located at the intersection of Alabama and Pryor Streets. 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Many notable Georgians are buried at Oakland including Margaret Mitchell, author of Gone with the Wind; Joseph Jacobs, owner of the pharmacy where John Pemberton first sold Coca-Cola as a soft drink; Bobby Jones, the only golfer to win the Grand Slam, the United States Amateur, United States Open, British Amateur and the Open Championship in the same year; as well as former Georgia governors and Atlanta mayors. 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The war pitted the Central Powers—mainly Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey—against the Allies—mainly France, Great Britain, Russia, Italy, Japan, and, from 1917, the United States. It ended with the defeat of the Central Powers.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822#t=2760.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47598/file/120822/annotation_set/557/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eB'nai B'rith Girls or BBG is the female order of the B'nai B'rith Youth Organization (BBYO), a youth movement that grew out of B’nai B’rith International, a Jewish service organization. BBG was founded in 1944 for teenage Jewish girls. Chapters of girls soon sprung up throughout the United States and Canada. Today, it is an international sorority. 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