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His father, Elliot Gottlieb (1904-1979), was also born in Savannah and his mother, Sara Dombrow Gottlieb (1916-2000), was from Birmingham, Alabama. His family owned and worked in the bakery, Gottlieb's. The family always lived above the bakery. The bakery soon became a Savannah tradition with early recipes from family. They also created recipes for items such as the chocolate chewy and \"Ava’s chocolate suicide cake,\" named after Isser's wife, Ava. Isser had three sons, who all worked in the food industry.  Isser passed away on December 25, 2012, at the age of 74.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eIsser and his wife Ava recalls his life growing up in Savannah with his family in the bakery business. He shares how practices changed over the years and how they adapted. Isser reminisces about different and favorite items and individuals that he encountered along the way.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28010"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Isser Gottlieb (personal name)","Ava Gottlieb (personal name)","Gottlieb's Bakery (corporate name)","Chocolate Chewy (topical term)","Washington Pie (topical term)","Chocolate Suicide Cake (topical term)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eIsser Gottlieb was interviewed by Harriet Meyerhoff on July 30, 2003 in Savannah, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eIsser Gottlieb was born in Savannah, Georgia. His father, Elliot Gottlieb (1904-1979), was also born in Savannah and his mother, Sara Dombrow Gottlieb (1916-2000), was from Birmingham, Alabama. His family owned and worked in the bakery, Gottlieb's. The family always lived above the bakery. The bakery soon became a Savannah tradition with early recipes from family. They also created recipes for items such as the chocolate chewy and \"Ava’s chocolate suicide cake,\" named after Isser's wife, Ava. Isser had three sons, who all worked in the food industry.  Isser passed away on December 25, 2012, at the age of 74.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eIsser and his wife Ava recalls his life growing up in Savannah with his family in the bakery business. He shares how practices changed over the years and how they adapted. Isser reminisces about different and favorite items and individuals that he encountered along the way.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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Today is July 30, 2003. Isser, let's start with your parents and how\nthey got to Savannah.\n\nGOTTLIEB: My father was born in Savannah. My mother was from Birmingham,\nAlabama, and he, my father, she came down here to visit her cousin, Frances\nRabhan, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they were introduced and they got married and my mother moved to Savannah.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Okay. So your parents, your father's family, the Gottliebs, were from where?\n\nGOTTLIEB: They were from Poland and Russia.\n\nMEYERHOFF: And, basically, where did they live when they came to America?\n\nGOTTLIEB: Well, I don't know. Since there was an ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"article in the New York Times\nabout Lawrence, did you see that article?\n\nMEYERHOFF: No.\n\nGOTTLIEB: About Lawrence in the New York Times, I've received many, many phone\ncalls. The first, the article was in the week before Rosh Hashanah last year and\non Rosh Hashanah when we came home from shul my phone was ringing from a guy\nnamed Jake, I mean Goldman, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"G-O-L-D-M-A-N, from California, the spa place in\nCalifornia. I can't think of the name of it right now. He told me that he was my\ncousin because my grandfather came over on the boat with, as a family. Somehow\nwhen they got off the, when they were getting off the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"boat and the name was\nGottlieb, they were getting off the boat and they heard that there was a killing\nin New York and it was done by a guy named Gottlieb so they all were changing\ntheir names. So they came through the Customs and they took the name of the guy\nin front of them, Goldman. How my grandfather got sidetracked from the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Goldmans,\nI have no idea. They settled in Cleveland and this guy finally moved out to\nCalifornia. I got my cousin, Alan, over here and we called this cousin of ours,\nBruce, his name is Bruce Goldman. We got hold of Bruce he was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"86 years old and\nwe talked to Bruce for a minute and then Alan and I started reminiscing about\nall the stories that we had heard about the Gottlieb family and I'll just tell\nyou the ones that I know.\n\nMy grandfather, Isadore, supposedly came to Savannah to be with his uncle, to\nlive with his uncle or to meet up with his uncle or whatever. He ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"took his\nuncle's name, Gottlieb, because his name was Bekell. Now that's the first story\nI'd ever heard about it. And then I got this Goldman story. When I was a little\nboy I remember we had people that used to travel through here from Cleveland and\nthey always stopped and visited with us. And then right after that, Lawrence,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because of this article, got a letter from a lady named Janet Osgrow and she\nlives in Buffalo, New York. And she has the largest retail gourmet store in the\ncountry or some kind of business like that according to her. And the, she\nnotified ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lawrence that she wanted to get hold of me, so, consequently, she got\nhold of me and we e-mailed back and forth a little bit. She has, she deals, she\nbasically told the same story as Goldman and she said that there was some people\nthat had written a family history several years ago. I do remember them coming\nto Savannah and I turned them over to my Uncle Harold who had migrated to Hot\nSprings, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Arkansas, 'cause he always had time to sit down and BS with anybody\nthat was interested in listening to him. I never paid much attention to the\nwoman and she wrote a history of Goldman/Gottlieb family or whatever. But in\nthose days I didn't have time for it and my uncle certainly wouldn't give her\nany credibility. My ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uncle Irving. He wasn't interested in talking to her at all.\nSo that's why we gave her to Harold. That's how I know that my grandfather got\nhere. My grandmother, I don't know. She was just in Savannah. We don't know any,\nanything about their childhood or they never discussed anything. I don't know in\nyour ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"family if they ever discussed anything like that, but mine never discussed\nanything that, - my father, of course, would tell us when he was a little boy\nand my uncles, but my grandmother, that was just a block-block a spot, point in\ntheir life.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Okay. Well, let's just pick up with the Gottlieb family in Savannah\nwhich would have been, would be your father and his siblings. First of all,\nwhere did your parents, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"where did the Gottlieb family live? The Gottlieb clan,\nwhen your father was growing up?\n\nGOTTLIEB: They always lived over the bakery, wherever the bakery was and the\nbakery moved several locations. They were down on, what is it, not Congress, but\nSt. Julian Street. Not St. Julian but Bryan Street to start with and then, I\nbelieve, they moved over ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to right where the Civic Center is now on Montgomery\nand Oglethorpe and there was a plot, not a plot but when I used to walk home\nfrom shul, my grandmother and I would walk by and we would see the tile in the\nground that said Gottlieb's Bakery. It was still there when they had that\nbuilding and the Civic Center was there. And then they moved to Bull and 32nd.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Was there a time when they were on Broughton ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Street? Near East Broad?\n\nGOTTLIEB: I think my father, my grandfather bought all the property on Broughton\nStreet, this is the story that I heard: All the property on Broughton Street\nbetween Levy's, where Levy's was, that's Abercorn Street and East Broad, all the\nway across. And, of course, he lost it all, lost all of his money and everything\nelse with it because, even to this day, it's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"never blossomed.\n\nMEYERHOFF: How did the bakery begin? Was it with your grandmother and\ngrandfather together?\n\nGOTTLIEB: I believe that it was my grandfather that started it, and my\ngrandmother, of course, worked down there a little bit, but not very much. My\nmemories of her were strictly housewife. She was old when, she was old when she\nwas young. All those people never, I'm assuming that when I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"first knew my\ngrandmother she must have been in her 50's or 60's at the latest, and she was an\nold lady then.\n\nMEYERHOFF: When did the bakery start?\n\nGOTTLIEB: When? In 1884.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Okay. Since it was a Savannah tradition, tell me about what you\nremember. About the bakery.\n\nGOTTLIEB: About the bakery? Oh, gosh, I used to, as a little boy, I used to go\nto the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bakery and stack boxes underneath the counter. My aunts would be down\nthere. It was strictly a family deal. My aunts would be down there making boxes\nand I would have to stack them in the low places that I can't bend to today, and\nunderneath the showcases so that we could have boxes to put cupcakes in and\nDanish and pastry. I used to run around there as a little ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"boy and visit the\nfirst, we lived on 35th Street and the bakery was on 32nd. My mother used to put\nme in the carriage every day and roll me down, I believe I went down 34th\nStreet. She'd roll down 34th Street to Bull because the delicatessen was located\non 34th and Bull at that time. That was my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"uncle and aunt's place. We'd go by BC\nSchool and the priests would look outside the window and wave at me almost every\nmorning, 'cause we went right about 10 o'clock and then we'd go down Bull Street\na block to the bakery. You know, we always went in and visited and saw my father\nand my uncles.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Where did their early recipes come from? Were they ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"experimental or\nthey brought them from Europe?\n\nGOTTLIEB: I don't know.\n\nMEYERHOFF: And then, who taught, was it just self-taught, was it a self-taught\nbakery business?\n\nGOTTLIEB: Absolutely. They taught themselves. People, lots of bakers would come\nthrough Savannah, nobody wanted to stay. 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It's the same thing Valerie asked ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me. That was the\nfirst question she asked me. Washington Pie was a thick bread pudding. They\nwould cut up all the bread. They didn't, probably didn't realize that they were\nputting a custard over the top of it, but they'd mix up eggs and sugar and\nwhatever and pour it over the bread and bake it in a real thick pan. 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If that's not true,\nit's still a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=750.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"story.\n\nMEYERHOFF: There were specialties that I remember. Of course, the challah, the\nbreads were wonderful, but raisin pumpernickel, who started that?\n\nGOTTLIEB: We hired a baker in the 1950s, his name was Jack Michaelberg, he came\nto Savannah and he made raisin pumpernickel here for the first time. 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And then my Uncle Irwin came back and he operated the bakery. He and my\nAunt Sadie and my father. When my Aunt Sadie got sick in the 50s, she kind of\nbowed out. 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The chocolate chewy, we used to sell 11,000\nchocolate chewys a week.\n\nMEYERHOFF: What was the largest cake you ever made?\n\nGOTTLIEB: The largest cake I ever made? Well, I made one of the State of\nGeorgia. A big cake in the shape of the State of Georgia and I was not astute\nenough ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to measure the door before I made the cake, so we had to really tilt the\ncake to get it out of the store. I forgot who got that.\n\nMEYERHOFF: We're also interviewing Ava Gottlieb and if you have comments to\nmake, we'd certainly like to hear it. 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A little bit of food, but mostly sweets.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Well, the bakery business is so fascinating because you've got\nperishables and you've got people who need items at the last minute for affairs,\nso it's process of storing it and then being concerned ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about bugs in this\nclimate, tell me about the bakery business behind-the-scenes type.\n\nGOTTLIEB: Well, in the first place, it's impossible to project how many of\nanything you're going to sell in a day. You never know. 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It was called Lake Forest and the guy that owned it, his name\nwas Walter Shucock and he was willing to teach me and train me, figuring that I\nwas going to be there a while, but as it worked out I was there for six months\nand then they called me and I had to come back home because we had some\ncatastrophe going on and I came back and I worked in our shop at that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"point. I\nhad a knack for baking and any place that I went I could look at products and\nknow what they were and how to go about it. I did a lot of research to determine\nhow to find different things. I also participated in different bakery\norganizations. I was the president of the Southeastern Master Retail Bakers\nAssociation ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I participated in several workshops and I learned from other\npeople, watching.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Did you have any special interest? You were destined to go into the\nfamily business. But if you didn't have the business, would you have chosen\nanother field?\n\nGOTTLIEB: Eating.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Okay. Did your father and your uncle also learn recipes from their father?\n\nGOTTLIEB: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. We had a lot of passed-down recipes or hand-me-down recipes that\nwe had to change a lot of because as time evolved different things were,\nmachinery was different. I once asked an old baker that we had, his name was Joe\nCoffea, spelled C-O-F-F-E-A, how my grandfather managed to mix rye bread when\nthey didn't have an electric mixer. And he says ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"we just did it. I don't know\".\nI'm certainly not man enough to be able to do that.\n\nMEYERHOFF: You said your grandfather started the business. It's unusual that a\nman would do that when the woman usually stayed home and did all the cooking and\nbaking. So did any recipes come from your grandmother that you remember?\n\nGOTTLIEB: I remember when I was a little boy on Mondays, when the bakery was\nclosed, we'd go up to visit my grandmother and she would ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be koshering chickens\nand koshering meat and doing all the things that she did and she'd be making\nbread for her. Of course, the bakery was kosher but it probably wasn't kosher\nenough for her. So she was making her own bread. I don't remember ever seeing\nher eat a sandwich from the bakery's bread, now that I think about it. But I\nguess she just wanted to make her own. 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Tell me about that.\n\nGOTTLIEB: He used to go from door to door and holler that he had, that he was\ndownstairs and people would come up and he'd throw up a loaf of bread to the\nsecond floor and they, in turn, would throw a penny for the loaf of bread, or\nwhatever the loaf of bread cost in those ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"days. My grandfather never turned\nanybody down if they didn't have the money to pay. It seems in today's times\nthat it's difficult to understand how a family could not have enough money to\npay for a loaf of bread. But they couldn't. Lots of them didn't. 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And of course, Tom was the horse and the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"truck kept rolling.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Was it scary, or let me say this, when you had, when you were\ncommissioned to do an event, did anything not turn out at the last minute? Any\ntype of elaborate cakes where you said, Omigosh, what's going to happen now?\n\nGOTTLIEB: Well, we've had cakes that melted. 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The only\nproblem was that we sold some of the flour to other bakeries and other\ndistributors that were in the area and we never could divvy up the flour so that\nat the end of the month, or the month and a half when we ran through a truckload\nof ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"flour, that we ended up always having the right kind of flour for our use.\nSo, consequently, we didn't have rye flour 'cause we sold 5 bags of rye flour to\nsomebody to Louis Alexander, for example, at his place to sell to somebody else\nand we were always left a little short of whatever we needed ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so, at some point\nwe turned around and we started buying it from distributors who supposedly were\nalways supposed to have all kind of flour and never leave us short. That didn't\nwork either.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Did you have orders that you shipped regularly to out of town?\n\nGOTTLIEB: Oh, yeah. We shipped, we used to ship your mother-in-law all the time.\nMrs. Meyerhoff in Jacksonville. We shipped, oh, lots of people ordered different\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things. They used to order bar mitzvahs. We used to ship birthday cakes to\nCalifornia by Railway Express, when I was a little boy.\n\nMEYERHOFF: How in the world did that last, without the icing coming off?\n\nGOTTLIEB: When I was a little boy we would take a cake, take a corrugated box,\nput the cake in the box and put cellophane over the top of the box so that you\ncould see in it, tape it around good, and we'd take it down to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Railway Express\nand we would ship it Railway Express and they always got there.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Now why would somebody from California order here?\n\nGOTTLIEB: Cause they liked the cake. We had a lot of people that . . . 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That\nwas my kind of people.\n\nAVA: Now they'd get $9.95 for it.\n\nGOTTLIEB: Yeah.\n\nMEYERHOFF: What did you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"enjoy making the most?\n\nGOTTLIEB: Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa. At that meeting that I showed how to\nmake the bikini cake somebody came in the room and made, and had some chocolate\ncookies. And I said, \"Boy, this is pretty good\". I told Ava, I said, \"This'll be\nthe next best seller, next to chocolate chips\". So we brought it home and we\nstarted making chocolate chewys.\n\nAVA: We perfected it a little bit.\n\nGOTTLIEB: We did perfect it a lot. Not a little bit. 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It was a good deal,\nbut we just couldn't keep it fresh long enough to be able to ship it anywhere.\nIf you go to Byrd Cookie ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Company and you want to buy some of their cookies, you\ncan't buy a cookie over there that's less than six months old, and we couldn't\nkeep one 6 minutes of the chocolate chewies. They just wouldn't stay fresh.\nThere was nothing we could put in it.\n\nMEYERHOFF: So you would say that was your best-seller cookie?\n\nGOTTLIEB: Oh, it's a wonderful seller cookie. 11,000 cookies a week, can you\nimagine how many cookies that is?\n\nAVA: A lot of people try to make them\n\nGOTTLIEB: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nobody can duplicate it either, except AVA.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Now, what era was that?\n\nGOTTLIEB: Well, we must have started that around the bikini cake/jaws time which was\n\nAVA: Late 70s.\n\nGOTTLIEB: Late 70s, maybe 74, 75, 76. Whenever we--..\n\nMEYERHOFF: Ava, you also prepared, did you decorate or bake or both?\n\nAVA: Both.\n\nMEYERHOFF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2100.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And how did you learn that?\n\nAVA: I cooked some things and ...\n\nMEYERHOFF: Ava also joined the family business helping you and I want to know\nhow you all came up with some of the cute names for the items?\n\nGOTTLIEB: Ava would have to make them up because I'm not original enough for that.\n\nMEYERHOFF: What were some interesting names?\n\nGOTTLIEB: The chocolate ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"chewies original name was \"come-back cookie\".\n\nMEYERHOFF: And why was that?\n\nGOTTLIEB: Cause people would buy it and come back for more. And we changed it to\nchocolate chewy because it sounded a little better than come-back and we also\nmade a pecan cookie, a pecan chewy and the name of that was a chocolate kit,\nK-I-T, that was the original name and nobody around here knew what chocolate\nkit, I mean what pecan kits ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"meant. So, consequently, we named them chocolate, I\nmean pecan chewies. Cause they're a little chewy and weren't that good.\n\nMEYERHOFF: But what does the name KIT mean?\n\nGOTTLIEB: I don't have any idea. I didn't know either.\n\nMEYERHOFF: All right. What about the suicide?\n\nGOTTLIEB: Chocolate suicide cake? 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They're not sure yet, they're\nlooking for a location and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's going to be a good restaurant. Lawrence is very\nwell trained, he graduated Johnson \u0026 Wales in Providence after going to Georgia\nfor two years and called up home and saying, \"Dad, I want, do I have to declare\na major or can I come do what I want to do?\" and I said, \"What do you want to\ndo?\" He said, \"Be a chef\". 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And he graduated Johnson \u0026 Wales while maintaining a full 40-hour or\nmore a week job as a sous chef in a restaurant in the best restaurant in\nProvidence at the time and Lawrence seemed to just have a knack for doing what\nhe was doing and when he graduated ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Johnson \u0026 Wales he was magna cum laude.\n\nMichael went to Johnson \u0026 Wales as a senior access student. He was going to, he\nwent up with us to show Lawrence the school and he decided that he wanted to be\na chef also. So he went up as a senior access student ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and he came back home and\nhe graduated St. Andrews as a, you know, with his class, but he was already a\ncollege sophomore when he went back to school in the fall. 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I guess I can't tell you anything more about it than that\nbecause if I do, I get reprimanded.\n\nMEYERHOFF: Do you think they'll use the name Gottliebs?\n\nGOTTLIEB: They're going to use it somewheres in there, whether it's going to be\nGottlieb Brothers Present or Gottlieb Brothers\n\nAva: Something.\n\nGOTTLIEB: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"By the Gottlieb Brothers, they're going to put Gottlieb in it at some point.\n\nMEYERHOFF: What year did you start the cookbook and how did that come about?\n\nGOTTLIEB: 1984. The bakery was 100 years old so we wrote the cookbook for the\n100th anniversary of the bakery. Just to, the big reason we wrote it was, I\nguess, to immortalize or remember some of the people in the family with a\nhistory in the front ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and, which wasn't very much in depth.\n\nMEYERHOFF: I have one question about the cookbook that I'm sure everybody has\nasked you: Are the recipes accurate?\n\nGOTTLIEB: The recipes are very accurate. Much more accurate than the recipes\nEmeril gives in his stuff and they are 100% tested, they were all tested by\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Serengeti. She did them all herself and they are accurate. They're really\naccurate. They're supposed to be accurate.\n\nMEYERHOFF: I know that you've got over a hundred years of information, is there\nanything in summing this up that you would like to say?\n\nGOTTLIEB: No. I really don't have any more to say about it at this point. But it\nwas fun. 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And all the\nrecipes are really and truly honest as far as I can tell ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you. The chocolate\nchewy recipe is the chocolate chewy recipe. There is absolutely no differences\nin the chocolate chewy recipe that's in the book and the chocolate chewy recipe\nthat I use at my house or wherever I make chocolate chewys. We wanted to title\nthe cookbook One Hundred Year of Is It Fresh? because we had, everybody that\ncame in and would ask us 'Is this ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fresh' or 'Is that not fresh?' I remember one\nday, my daddy, people used to stop from downtown at the bakery on their way home\nand this particular man stopped in at five o'clock in the afternoon to get what\nwe called Five o'clock rolls which was a little dinner roll that they'd take\nhome for dinner and my father brought a pan out of them in the back, he was\njuggling the pan, he had used two cloths to carry it because it was hot, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he\ncouldn't pick up the rolls. In those days you picked them up with your hands. He\ncouldn't pick them up with his hands to get them in a bag and this guy looks at\nhim and he says 'Eliot, are those fresh?' And that's what we lived. A hundred\nyears of 'Is it fresh?'\n\nMEYERHOFF: Tell him what your dad answered.\n\nGOTTLIEB: My dad's answer, his very astute answer. He said, 'No, we've got 54\npeople working here making stale merchandise.'\n\nMEYERHOFF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/transcript/20008/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a good reply. Thank you for the interview.\n\nGOTTLIEB: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=2700.0,2730.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/annotation_set/209","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Annotations [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/annotation_set/209/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cem\u003eRosh Ha-Shanah\u003c/em\u003e [Hebrew: head of the year; i.e. New Year festival] begins the cycle of High Holy Days. It introduces the Ten Days of Penitence, when Jews examine their souls and take stock of their actions. On the tenth day is \u003cem\u003eYom Kippur\u003c/em\u003e, the Day of Atonement. The tradition is that on \u003cem\u003eRosh Ha-Shanah,\u003c/em\u003e G-d sits in judgment on humanity. Then the fate of every living creature is inscribed in the Book of Life or Death. Prayer and repentance before the sealing of the books on \u003cem\u003eYom Kippur\u003c/em\u003e may revoke these decisions. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/31124/file/99201/annotation_set/209/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eA bakers business partner connecting buyers and sellers. Trade association of Profesional Retail Bakers. 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