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Her father was a prominent Atlanta architect responsible for some of the city’s most notable public buildings including Fulton County Stadium, and corporate headquarters for Coca-Cola, BellSouth, and Georgia Power. Her mother was a committed and active volunteer in the community, and both parents were social activists supporting a wide range of causes.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAs a child in Atlanta, Judith attended The Lovett School and later The Westminster Schools. After high school, she moved to San Francisco and worked as a graphic designer for San Francisco Magazine. She lived in California for 17 years, but returned to Atlanta after her parents were involved in an auto accident with a drunk driver in 1983, which took her mother’s life. She and her husband Ed Augustine and their son Jed Alexander Augustine, remained in Atlanta after that time.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eJudith describes memories of her mother, Hermione Weil Alexander, as part of the Women of Achievement project. She reflects on life with her parents—both very active in the community—and her time at The Lovett School and The Westminster Schools as a young Jewish girl. She shares stories and remembrances of her mother’s active volunteer life and its impact on the community and her family. She also talks about her young son, Jed, and ways she works to make her mother’s memory a part of his upbringing.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28348"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJudith Alexander Augustine interviewed by Dorothy Cohen on May 2, 1988 in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eJudith Alexander Augustine was born in 1949 in Atlanta, Georgia, to parents Hermione Weil Alexander and Cecil Alexander. She had a younger brother, Douglas Alexander, and an older sister, Terri (Alexander-Cox). Her father was a prominent Atlanta architect responsible for some of the city’s most notable public buildings including Fulton County Stadium, and corporate headquarters for Coca-Cola, BellSouth, and Georgia Power. Her mother was a committed and active volunteer in the community, and both parents were social activists supporting a wide range of causes.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAs a child in Atlanta, Judith attended The Lovett School and later The Westminster Schools. After high school, she moved to San Francisco and worked as a graphic designer for San Francisco Magazine. She lived in California for 17 years, but returned to Atlanta after her parents were involved in an auto accident with a drunk driver in 1983, which took her mother’s life. She and her husband Ed Augustine and their son Jed Alexander Augustine, remained in Atlanta after that time.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eJudith describes memories of her mother, Hermione Weil Alexander, as part of the Women of Achievement project. She reflects on life with her parents—both very active in the community—and her time at The Lovett School and The Westminster Schools as a young Jewish girl. She shares stories and remembrances of her mother’s active volunteer life and its impact on the community and her family. She also talks about her young son, Jed, and ways she works to make her mother’s memory a part of his upbringing.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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I am talking with\nJudith Alexander Augustine; she is the daughter of Hermione Weil Alexander. I am\ntalking with Judith as part of the Women of Achievement Oral History Project\njointly sponsored by the American Jewish Committee and National Council of\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish Women. We are conducting this discussion at Judith's home on Avery Drive\nin Atlanta, Georgia.\n\nJudith, this is a Women of Achievement project but I'd like to talk with you\nfrom another direction, and that's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about your memories of your mother growing up.\n\nJudith: The thing that comes to mind immediately when you ask that question is\nthat she really was youthful. When I was little, it embarrassed me a great deal,\nand then when I got older ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it was a lot of fun. One of my last memories of being\nwith her was--she must have been about 60, I can't remember what summer it\nwas--it was a recent summer. We went to Hawaii together and there was this long\nwater slide and she and I got on it and rode it all day. She was having as much\nfun as the other children that were there. When I was younger and she would get\nbehind marching bands and strut behind them it would embarrass me terribly.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(laughs) But--this is awful--I learned to really love and appreciate that and I\nfeel like that's something that I have tried to incorporate in my own life.\n\nWhen I was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"little she was very busy a lot. She was out and doing things a lot.\nAs a child, I had a lot of ambivalence about this. I was proud of her being a\nperson who was doing things, although I wasn't quite sure what all these things\nwere. In fact, she had a Daily Aid--we still have all of them, every Daily Aid\nshe ever had we still ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have--and she would abbreviate meeting \"mtg\". Just about\nevery day she had to go to this \"mtg\", this strange thing. I didn't know what a\n\"mtg\" was, but my mother went to a lot of them. And I would write in my diary\n\"Mom to mtg today.\" That was my life, was my mother going to meetings. That was\nhard for me, I think, that she did so much and I really didn't understand what\nit was. I think it's maybe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"different if a parent is a professional of some kind,\nthat you can hang a title on, then it's easier to identify. So, I had this vague\npride in the fact that she was doing things, but I didn't know what they were. I\nfelt that she was gone too much as a child.\n\nDorothy: How much did she discuss her community activity with you?\n\nJudith: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, my memory is that it was more and more, as I got older and better\nable to comprehend what it was she was doing. [During] so much of it, I was a\nteenager and--as teenagers tend to be--I was much more interested in myself than\nanybody else. It was when I was a teenager that she was head of the Jury\nCommission and I was very proud of her about that. But I never really got into\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"deep discussions with her about what it was she was up to. She was the kind of\nperson who didn't talk about herself very much, she was so interested in other\npeople. I think she undervalued herself some in that respect, she didn't toot\nher horn very much. I think you had to pull it out of her and I was a teenager\nand I wasn't going to pull it out of her. I'd rather talk to her about what I\nwas interested in at the time I was a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"teenager. It's hard to admit this, but\n(laughs) it's true. But, I did get a sense of her being a very involved person\nand a person who cared really deeply about other people.\n\nI think that's her greatest legacy. She would do things for people. She spent so\nmuch of her time doing stuff for other people. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She wanted me to come along,\nwanted me and my sister and brother to come along and do a lot of this with her.\nAs teenagers well, we resisted--I resisted, I can't speak for them--but I\nresisted a lot. Yet every time I would do it, I would feel all the richer for\nhaving done it. But I really would put up a fight. I think that's where she drew\nthe line, that she knew it was important to pass on and she would insist that we\nwould come along on certain ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things.\n\nWhat comes to mind is, the mother in a family would come and iron for her every\nfew weeks. And [when] Christmastime, or the holiday time, would come and she\nwould have presents for all of the children and grandchildren of this woman.\n[She would] stay up night after night wrapping things and go and deliver them to\nher house, which was in a difficult part of town. 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Not only ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"buying gifts for them but also for all their children\nand grandchildren when she knew they wouldn't have anything else. It was really\nvery touching.\n\nDorothy: How would you say that has influenced you?\n\nJudith: I try to do a lot of that myself. I don't feel like I do nearly the job\nof it that she did. I feel like I'm a much more selfish person than my mother\nwas. 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I'm not as ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"consistent about doing them as she was. The influence is that\nI think it's terribly important. I think it's those little things that make life\nrich. The big achievements don't mean as much to me as doing kind things for\npeople. And when people do kind things for me, I really appreciate it. Sometimes\nit ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"chokes me up because it reminds me so much of what my mother would do.\n\nDorothy: Which of her involvements stick out the most in your mind?\n\nJudith: Well, the things that were talked about the most are her work with\nsenior citizens and her work with the Jury Commission. What really sticks out in\nmy mind is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the things she did on a very small scale, the unsung things; the\nthings that she couldn't talk about at cocktail parties as doing something. But\nthose are the things that really stick out for me because I think she made a big\ndifference in a lot of people's lives that never would have been touched otherwise.\n\nDorothy: How did you see your dad [Cecil Alexander] reacting to her involvement?\n\nJudith: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think he really appreciated what she did. He also needed her very much\nto help him. He is the achiever, in the traditional sense, and to have achieved\nwhat he did, he needed her back there handling all kinds of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things. He was just\ntelling me the other day that between my mother and his secretary he didn't have\nto remember anything. (laughs) They just took care of stuff for him. I think\nwhat's difficult for women like my mother--and in this case, I think of my own\nreaction to her and I think my father's to some extent--all these things she did\ntook her away ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from us somewhat. She would be up late, late, late at night doing\nthese things, wrapping gifts or writing letters or just trying to get all this\nextra stuff done. So, she would be up way beyond when all of us went to bed. She\nnever seemed to be tired, except in later years she started napping a little bit\nmore. 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So, I think that all of the talking we have\ndone about it since she died, he just marvels at what a supportive person she\nwas for him.\n\nDorothy: As you look back, how ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"supportive, how encouraging do you remember all\nof you being for your mother, to be involved outside the home as she was?\n\nJudith: I don't think we were supportive enough.\n\nDorothy: What's enough?\n\nJudith: I think that the theme of this seems to keep being that I felt that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she\nwas gone too much. So, because of that, sort of feeling a little bit abandoned\nfrom that, I wasn't going to be supportive of her getting out there. I didn't\nunderstand. I just did not understand. If there's anything I wish had been\ndifferent, what I wish had been different, would have been that she would have\nsat down and really talked to me and told me what she was doing and to say to me\nthat this is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=720.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"important and this helps make life rich. I wish she had just\nexplained it a little bit better to me.\n\nDorothy: As you were older and she did discuss more of her activities with you\nin greater depth, to what extent did she discuss the motivation behind it with\nyou? What was bringing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=750.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"her to this point?\n\nJudith: She didn't discuss that specifically with me. What she did say to me was\n. . . I think it always bothered her a little bit that she didn't have a handle,\na title to put on what it was she did. 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He had mentioned that\nperhaps she would've liked to have gone to law school.\n\nJudith: She would have been a great lawyer. We talked about her being a consumer\nadvocate too, because she was always interested in things like that. We were\nalways talking about things she could do. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel very frustrated that she's not\nhere so that we can talk about these things because I haven't become a\nprofessional either and that frustrates me to some extent. I'm always looking at\nwhat is it that's frustrating about that. Is it because of the prestige that\ngoes along with it or is it because I really think I could be accomplishing\nsomething else if I were. Those are big questions and I know she struggled with\nthose questions.\n\nDorothy: You've ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"worked outside the home.\n\nJudith: Oh yes. I didn't get married until I was 35. I was a graphic designer\nand an art director in San Francisco [California]. I've had a career, I have,\nand I've worked very hard. I worked seven days a week, 12-hour days. I know what\nit means to do that, but I also was able to leave it. It wasn't this burning\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"passion, it wasn't my life's focus, it wasn't this long-term drive. It didn't\nsatisfy something that is yet to be satisfied. I get a lot of satisfaction out\nof having a child and turning my attention more towards community projects that\nare going to create a better world for him, for instance. I mean, designing San\nFrancisco ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"magazine was a lot of fun, it was a fancy life being in that city in\nthat profession. It was very exciting, it was pretty glamorous.\n\nDorothy: You see yourself wanting to look more toward the community.\n\nJudith: Yes. When I came back to Atlanta . . . I was gone 17 years. As soon as I\ngraduated from high school I wanted to get out of this town. I just had a hard\ntime ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with Atlanta as a teenager. I went to a school where I felt like really the\n\"odd person out\", and yet, when I left I was so attached to my parents that I\ncried for two weeks before I went to college. Because I just thought, \"Oh, this\nis the worst tragedy that ever happened, but I'm leaving.\"\n\nWhen I came back here it was a little confusing. I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"came back after my mom had\ndied. Her death was the catalyst really that brought me back here, and Dad's\nsituation. I wanted to get back closer to home. I met my husband on one of these\ntrips back and things moved very, very quickly. Then I came back to Atlanta and\nall of a sudden, I'm in Atlanta, I have a home in Ansley Park, and what am I\nsupposed to do? Am I supposed to be my mother? So immediately, (laughs) ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's\nlike people knew I was going to be in that position and I was asked to work on\nThe Beaux Arts Ball--be one of the chairpersons for that--which is the big\nfundraiser for the Atlanta College of Art. I accepted it and I did it and it was\na real success, we raised a lot of money and it wasn't my thing. It would not\nhave been my mother's thing either. That's another thing I've discovered lately.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think The Beaux Arts Ball is great and what they do is wonderful. It's not a\nvehicle that I want to ride to doing things for the community, and it was sort\nof the glamour end of things and that's not what my mother was interested in.\nYet somehow, I thought by getting involved in that, I was following in her\nfootsteps. But I learned more about my mother by doing that, and finding out\nthat I was really missing the boat on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that one.\n\nDorothy: A couple things that I'd like to pick up on. The first is, you said you\nwent to a school where you felt like \"odd person out.\"\n\nJudith: I went to Westminster, and being Jewish at Westminster in the sixties\n[1960s] was being odd, it was, it was definitely being in a minority. It was a\nsubtle discrimination that went ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on but I really did feel it. I think if I had\nbeen one of the academic whizzes I wouldn't have felt it as strenuously because\nacademics is really stressed at Westminster. When you're a high achiever in\nacademics they'll overlook a lot of other things. But I went to Westminster in\n1963, having been pulled out of Lovett. Because that was the year that Martin\nLuther King tried to get his children in, and my father was on the board, and he\nresigned at the time ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because they wouldn't accept his [Dr. King's] children.\nThen they sent me to Westminster where the subject hadn't come up and didn't for\nthe whole four years I was there.\n\nDorothy: What years were you at Westminster then?\n\nJudith: From 1963 to 1967.\n\nDorothy: That was ninth through twelfth grade?\n\nJudith: Yes. 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There would be parties where there were\npeople--all kinds of people, international, people of different races--they\nwould be at our house and then I'd go to Westminster which seemed so insulated.\nIt ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was confusing to me.\n\nDorothy: To what extent did you discuss this contrast with your parents?\n\nJudith: Not so much at the time. I think at the time I felt there was just\nsomething wrong with me. I tossed it all off to being a teenager. I think ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's\na great part of it. I don't believe I must have discussed it with them very much\nbecause I don't think that we would have just let the situation ride out if I\nhad. I wasn't into rocking the boat. I wanted to be accepted so I wanted to do a\nlot of the things that would mean my acceptance, rather than really discussing\nthe situation with them and the problem and what can we do about it. It is with\nhind sight that I see what was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going on. I don't think at the time I realized\nit. I'm not sure. I've tried to talk to my dad about it some. I don't think they\nwere really aware of it at the time. I think they really wanted to get me the\nbest education available at the time. It was, and is, an excellent school that's\nall available.\n\nDorothy: How many Jewish students were in your class?\n\nJudith: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1350.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would guess maybe there were five other girls, five other Jewish girls\nin my class. It was a fairly small class. I don't believe there were more than\n100 students. Twenty years later I've sort of forgotten what the numbers were.\n\nDorothy: But it was small?\n\nJudith: Yes.\n\nDorothy: Aside from the subtle separation that you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"felt, did you pick up any\nform of alienation? When you talk about separation I imagine you are talking\nabout [separation] from your fellow students?\n\nJudith: Yes.\n\nDorothy: Did you pick up any sort of alienation, antisemitism from the faculty?\n\nJudith: Only insofar as they supported what the students were doing. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They were\naware that there were these secret sororities going on that were restricted and\nthey didn't do anything about it. I felt that a lot of them were very\nmanipulated by the students in that respect. I don't know what it's like now. In\nfact, recently I've had a long discussion with a fellow classmate who was the\nblonde, blue-eyed, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"academic whiz. She wasn't May Queen, but she was on the May\nCourt--which was a great honor--National Honor Society, very popular, and\nHomecoming Court. I had a long talk with her recently about this because she's\nbeen wanting me to give some money to the school. We've had some very\ninteresting discussions that shed a lot of light on this mysterious dark ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"past.\n(laughs) She said she felt--in her way--she felt alienated, she felt cut out. It\nstarted me thinking that I might have pinned more on an antisemitic trend than\nmight have been fair. It could be what goes on in high schools anyway.\n\nDorothy: So, this blue-eyed blonde ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is not Jewish. This is correct.\n\nJudith: Oh no, no. She fit the profile of the \"Westminster Girl\".\n\nDorothy: You said that you came back to Atlanta and you moved into Ansley Park\nas a wife, soon-to-be ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mother, and found yourself picked up by the glamorous\nvolunteer activities. Your comment was, \"Was I supposed to be my mother?\" How\nmuch do you experience the anticipation that you will follow in your mother's footsteps?\n\nJudith: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think I felt it a lot in the beginning when I first moved here. This\nis a difficult time to be asking me this question, because I feel like literally\nI've had my head in the sand since about halfway through my pregnancy. Ever\nsince then I just have not been involved in things. Just recently I've started\ngetting out there but I started deciding ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what it is I want to get involved in\nand going after it rather than waiting for it to come to me. I think I was just\nafraid that because people tell me that I remind them of my mother so much--that\nI look like her, that I talk like her, and that I laugh like her and all of\nthis--I love hearing it, but it scared me in the beginning. I felt like \"They're\ngoing to expect me to be her. They're going to expect me to do what she did.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So\nhere I am, 38 years old and still rebelling. (laughs) It's a little strange.\n\nDorothy: Is it really rebelling or is it establishing your own identity?\n\nJudith: That's what it is, but it feels like that. I think that's what you do\nwhen you are a young person also. When you're saying no to what your parent's\nmight want you to do you are establishing your own identity but it gets called\nrebelling. So here we are ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"again.\n\nDorothy: You mentioned that you felt like \"odd person out\" because you were\nJewish at Westminster. How would you describe the Jewishness within your home as\nyou were growing up?\n\nJudith: Good question. It wasn't a strongly Jewish household, although we did\nobserve ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"major holidays and we would go to Temple on a fairly regular basis. But\nagain, I went to an Episcopal school from nursery school to ninth grade, I went\nto Lovett. I felt like I was Episcopal during the week and Jewish on the\nweekends, I used to say. We were pretty ecumenical about it I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"guess. There\nwasn't a strong emphasis on our Jewishness. I never heard my mother utter a\nsingle word of Yiddish. (laughs) She didn't cook, she cooked low calorie things\nbut she wasn't into being the Jewish mother. There wasn't a real strong emphasis\non that and yet I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"knew very definitely that I was Jewish. It was more on human\nrights and civil rights, that was the thing that was really stressed a lot in my\ngrowing up. That's what we talked about and that's what we thought about. We\nwould exchange Hanukkah gifts and Christmas gifts. My mother never wanted to be\nto miss ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anything so we would do it all. We would celebrate everything, which was\na lot of fun for us.\n\nDorothy: Are there any traditional Jewish practices that were practiced in your\nhome that you remember?\n\nJudith: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The more I think about Hanukkah we would light the candles together and\nwe had Passover. We had a real long Passover (laughs) Seder every year.\n\nDorothy: That's traditional. (laughs)\n\nJudith: Right, with my Uncle Harry, my father's uncle, my great uncle.\n\nDorothy: That's Harry?\n\nJudith: Harry Alexander, Judith's father.\n\nDorothy: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were talking about having a long Passover Seder with your Uncle\nHarry, Judith's okay, Judith . . .\n\nJudith: Judith Alexander, the gallery owner, her father. He would wear a yamulka\nand go through the entire Haggadah. It was long, (laughs) I remember it was long\nbut it was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"always something fun and something I looked forward to and enjoyed a lot.\n\nDorothy: What was your feeling about your folk's--your mother's--involvement in\nthe Jewish community in Atlanta?\n\nJudith: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What was my feeling about it?\n\nDorothy: Yes. Did you see their involvement within the Jewish community, within\nthe general community . . .\n\nJudith: Well, my father was very involved with the Temple. I think Mother, most\nof her closest friends I think were Jewish. Their world ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1920.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kind of grew out of the\nJewish community, but I felt their involvement went way beyond the Jewish\ncommunity. But that was always an anchor for everything else. Being Jewish . . .\nwhen the Temple was bombed, I remember them being so upset and there being such\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a lot . . . it sticks out in my mind as a pivotal point for some reason. They\nwere very, very distressed about that. I feel like it accelerated their general\nwork with civil rights in general, not just for Jews but for all minorities. I\nthink it was real important to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them. There was always a sense of pride in being\nJewish that I picked up from them. It was a point of honor to be Jewish. I never\nheard about being an example, how I hear a lot of people say. Any example I had\nwas to be a human being and to be a good human ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2010.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"being, it wasn't to be a good Jew.\n\nDorothy: To what extent, or in what way, do you feel that that aspect of your\nparents has influenced you?\n\nJudith: Somehow, I always wanted to marry a Jewish man. That was important to me\neven though I hardly ever dated Jewish men. 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A couple, two or three.\n\nDorothy: The reason I was--I wasn't doing a count (laughs)--was your comment\nthat although you didn't date Jewish men particularly, it was still the sense\nthat when it came to marriage it would be with someone Jewish.\n\nJudith: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That somehow got communicated to me from my family that that was\nimportant. I saw my parents sharing traditions, coming from different worlds but\nsharing traditions that they both understood and that's what the celebration of\nthe Jewish holidays was about. I felt it was keeping traditions alive. That's\nhow we did it and that's what I want to continue.\n\nDorothy: What are the different worlds that your parents came ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from?\n\nJudith: Well, they weren't that different probably. I think my mother probably\ncame from a slightly more opulent world than my father did. They weren't that\ndifferent except that they grew up in different places. 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When we\nwere in Scandinavia together--we did a lot of travelling together which was\nreally fun--we were on the plane coming back and we had found out that my\ngrandmother was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dying, had died. My mom was so upset and she was telling me that\nthere were so many things that she had wanted to say to her and hadn't said. And\nthat my grandmother hadn't approved of this trip that we were taking for some\nreason and that she wanted her to know what how well it had turned out. I never\ndid find out what could she possibly not approve of, you're a grown woman.\n(laughs) How could your mother be telling you these things? I never did find\nthat out. I'd like to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know what that was about. But it was the first time I ever\nperceived her as somebody else's child. It's too bad, I wish I had been aware of\nthat earlier. So many things you understand later that it would be so nice to go\nback and be able to apply them to those different times in your life and have\nthat kind of understanding.\n\nDorothy: That is something we all wish for. (laughs)\n\nJudith: I'm sure, (laughs) I know. 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Wise yes, old?\n\nJudith: I don't know about wise.\n\nDorothy: You were also in an interesting position with your schooling in that\nyou were able to contrast education--Lovett and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2400.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Westminster--both of which were\nseen for a long time as the bastions of education in Atlanta. You talked a\nlittle bit about your feelings about Westminster. How did you feel as a Jewish\ngirl at Lovett?\n\nJudith: There were more Jews in my class there. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My perception of it was that I was the only one who wasn't. That\npart was hard, but after chapel services I don't recall having those same feelings.\n\nThis year we had our twentieth reunion at Westminster and also the Lovett class\ninvited those of us who had been there from the beginning back to that reunion.\nLike I say, I felt at home with those people. I don't know if it has so much to\ndo with the school as with the time in my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"life that I was there. I think both\nschools offer terrific opportunities educationally. I feel like there's a lot to\nbe said about that . . . I'm not sure.\n\nDorothy: Do you want to say it?\n\nJudith: I'm not sure what it has to do ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with my mother, but . . .\n\nDorothy: Well, indirectly because it's you, and your feelings--as you say--were\nobviously influenced by her.\n\nJudith: I'm not really holding back anything, it's just I've got to dig back in\nthere to come up with anything. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It has more to do with my feeling about\neducation I think, and how they need to make it more fun, more accessible and\nmore hands on, more experiential. That's how to get through. There were so many\nwonderful opportunities and yet here we were, adolescents and teenagers just so\ncaught up in adolescent and teenager things. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel like that's just,I don't\nknow, something about that doesn't feel pertinent to me.\n\nDorothy: Okay. How would you say your feelings about growing up in the home that\nyou grew up in has ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"influenced you as an adult and as a mother?\n\nJudith: When you say in the home, you mean with my parents?\n\nDorothy: Yes.\n\nDorothy: This is side 2, continuation of talk with Judith Alexander Augustine\nabout her mother, Hermi ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alexander.\n\nJudith: The question was, \"How did growing up in that household influence me as\nan adult and as a mother.\" Well, since I feel like I became an adult when I\nbecame a mother (laughs) . . .\n\nDorothy: (laughs) How old is your son?\n\nJudith: He's eight months old.\n\nDorothy: And his name?\n\nJudith: His name is Jed Alexander Augustine. J-E-D that is. It means \"beloved of God\".\n\nDorothy: Beautiful.\n\nJudith: It's a combination of Judith and Ed [Ed Augustine], ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2730.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his father, and\nthat's how we got the name Jed. He is wonderful, he's a real joy. I wish my mom\nwere here to enjoy him. She really would think he hung the moon, which he did. (laughs)\n\nHow did it influence me? 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It won't be until I have a\nsecond child that I'll ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really get some glimmer into how it was that she felt\nabout me as a child, as a little child.\n\nBut there are things that I learned from her about what's important in life that\nI really try to keep alive and pass on to my child, or my children, as their\nmom. 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By that I mean,\nI think my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mother put herself last too much. I mean, I just felt she didn't take\ngood enough care of herself. When she had a heart problem, that worried me a\nlot. Her blood pressure was high. I felt that all that giving, she wasn't taking\nin enough for herself and that's something, I wish she had been a little more\nselfish. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, while I've learned and have been influenced by the level of caring\nand the level of giving, I have to temper it with that. I feel like it's also\nvery important to make sure that you are happy with yourself. It makes the\ngiving, I don't know, I don't see how it could have been deeper for her. Maybe\nit was right for her, but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that wouldn't be right for me.\n\nDorothy: When time allows in the future, where do you see yourself putting your\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"energies outside the home?\n\nJudith: Well, right now I am getting involved in a new project. We're going to\nstart a children's museum here in Atlanta. I'm working with June Schneider and\ntwo other women. We're just at the beginning stages of it, but that is a project\nI'm very excited about. It's education, it reaches out to and incorporates a\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whole lot of what interests me because it reaches children who don't have the\nopportunities that I had; who don't go to Westminster or Lovett or Paideia or\nPace or wherever. Kids who are in institutions where there are big cutbacks and\nthis would provide all kinds of enrichment and workshops and hands-on\nexperience. That's one thing that I'm really excited about. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Also, we want to\nemphasize an international understanding of how other children live in other\nparts of the world; have a clearing house for pen pals from all over the world.\nTo me that's a stab at finding a way to peace on this planet.\n\nI just read an article about Palestinian children and families. I never ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thought\nof Palestinians--I mean this is really embarrassing--but I never thought of them\nas families. Mothers and fathers who have professions, who have nice homes, who\nhave hopes and dreams for their children, whose kids are teething or being\npotty-trained (laughs) or going through normal human things. We attach stigmas\nto people. 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(laughs) They\nmattered before because I was a child and now they matter because I have ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one.\nThat's the most immediate project.\n\nIt matters to me very much to spend a lot of time with my child. I don't want\nhim to write in his diary, \"Mom to mtg., Mom to mtg.\" I just want to be\navailable to him. I want to bring him into my experiences. I want him to know me\nand understand what I am doing. I certainly want a life outside of being a\nmother, but I want it to really be ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"integrated with his life. So, whatever the\nprojects are, they are going to have to take all that into account. I'm not sure\nwhat they're going to be. I might go back to designing because that's something\nI can do on a part-time basis. That's something I can do maybe later, who knows.\nI don't know. I feel like there's a world of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"opportunity and a lot of late\nbloomers out there. (laughs)\n\nDorothy: When Jed is older, what are you going to tell him about Hermi?\n\nJudith: I wish we'd had video cameras, that came in right after she died. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gosh,\nI think about that. In fact, I talk to him about her now, about things that she\nliked or things that she'd say, funny things that she would do. I've already\nstarted telling him those things. I want him to know her, somehow, I think it's\na shame he won't know her. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm going to show him the movies, we have home\nmovies. That'll be hard for him to relate to I think, because they're not\nvideos, but he'll get some sort of a sense. I'm going to tell him about all the\nwonderful things she did for people.\n\nEd and I talk about this a lot--this is something important to both of us--that\nhe understand early on that it's important ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to give to others. We've thought\nabout, if there's an elderly person in the neighborhood that he could do\nsomething for on a regular basis, something like that. For instance, go grocery\nshopping for them once a week. Something that he does on a regular basis so that\nhe doesn't get scared of it, so that he understands that people are different.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Those are things that I felt my mother introduced to me and I want him to know\nabout that, and I want to improve on it too, if I can. And I'm sure he'll\nimprove on what I do.\n\nIt's important to me that he know her. I want to show him pictures, I have a\npicture of her in his room ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"now. A picture too, of my father with him, and a\npicture of Helen--who's my father's wife now--and his grandmother, Ed's mother.\nIt's a picture of Jed and his two grandmothers. Helen is going to be his\ngrandmother, and it's going to be difficult to explain all these relationships.\nShe's wonderful and she'll do a wonderful job of it, she already has. We're very\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3360.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"lucky to have her. And yet, I want him to know about my mother and I want her to\na presence in his life. And I guess I'll figure out, as time goes by, how to let\nhim know about her.\n\nDorothy: It sounds as though she already is.\n\nJudith: Yes.\n\nDorothy: And, this certainly is part of the legacy that she left, because she's\nvery much a presence in your home, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"obviously, as she is with so many people that\nshe touched.\n\nYou've given me a sense of what she's left for you, what do you see as her\nlegacy to the rest of us, and to the other people around who weren't as\nfortunate as some of us who knew her, but the ones ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who--nevertheless--were\ntouched by her?\n\nJudith: I thinkthe theme is the same. When there is someone in the world who\ngives to the extent that she did . . . I mean, the rest of the world wasn't her\nchild who felt, \"Where's Mom now when I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"need her?\" And she was there when I\nneeded her, I don't mean to say she wasn't. But being a selfish adolescent I\nwanted her all the time, I wanted all of her attention.\n\nSo, the rest of the world doesn't have to worry about that aspect of it and is\nprobably even better able to see, as I am . . . I'm so touched by people who\njust do giving, thoughtful things and they enrich the world for me. And I think\nthat's the legacy that she ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"has handed down. That you don't do things for glory\nand you don't do things for fame, and you don't do things for power, that it's\npossible to have a tremendous impact without doing it with that kind of motivation.\n\nAnd I think she would be shocked at the way people are still talking about her.\nShe would not have believed all the people who came to her funeral. She would be\nreally surprised that she's been ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"talked about as a Woman of Achievement. It\nwould make her very happy to see that people did see her as a woman of\nachievement, despite the fact that she wasn't a professional, despite the fact\nthat she wasn't real focused on some one thing.\n\nDorothy: When, in actuality, as you talk about her and as you reminisce, she\ncertainly was a professional, a professional volunteer.\n\nJudith: Right.\n\nDorothy: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And a professional humanist, actually. And one other word that you used\n(gentle laugh), that I found myself reacting to . . . she was focused. That was\nthe point, she was definitely focused in her concern for all people.\n\nJudith: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you talk about her as a professional humanist, I love that. I wish\nshe'd had that perception of herself. And maybe she was just fine without it.\nShe certainly enjoyed life to the fullest, and right up to the last minute she\ndid. So, she had to be happy with herself. I know that she ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3600.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kept some things inside.\n\nShe could lend such an ear to other people, she really made herself available to\nlisten to other people's tales of woe. And a lot of people, including myself,\ntook terrible advantage of that. She was such a great listener. But she was also\nbeautiful and she took real good care of herself on a certain level. I worried\nabout her medically somewhat, but on a certain level she ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3630.0,3660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did, and she was active\nand always wanting to do things. So, she had to feel good about herself in order\nto be that alive. She certainly wasn't a depressed person. (laughs) There wasn't\nan ounce of that in her.\n\nDorothy: We've covered a lot in the past roughly hour and twenty minutes or so.\nWhat haven't I touched on? Are there ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"any other things that you would like to share?\n\nJudith: Well, I do feel like I'm scratching the surface here and I could\nprobably go on for days about it. I'm sure tonight I will come up with some more\nthings . . .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was a cohesion that she brought to our family and to any situation she was\nin, that I miss so much. She was the hub of the wheel always. In some ways, I\nthink when I would come home to visit, I would fall very comfortably into\nletting her be that for me. Not having her there to do ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it has forced me to grow\nup and also, I think in some ways, to take over in that respect somewhat. I was\njust noticing, my sister had a birthday last week. I had a party here for her.\nMy brother's birthday is next week and I'm arranging a party for him, and those\nare the things my mother would have done. I tend to be organized and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3750.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's\nsomething that she was. She made sure everybody kept it together and I'm sort of\nfalling into that position myself, kicking and screaming part of the time\n(laughs) because I want to and I don't want to. I don't want to be responsible\nfor everybody else. She never complained about it. It was her job and it was important.\n\nBut that things really missed. When she would ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3780.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"walk into a room she lit it up and\nshe made it comfortable. She was like a safety net. Maybe most people feel this\nway about their mothers, I don't know, but I felt it, until she died I did. And\nwhen she was gone, I felt the loss of it tremendously. And that I still ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"do--it's\nbeen four years, four and a half years--and that hole is just still as big as\never. It doesn't hurt as much, but it's as big as it ever was. She just brought\na sense of \"everything is okay.\" In fact, when I was a little girl, she would\ncome in to tuck me in and I used to say, \"Is everything yes?\" And if \"everything\nwas yes\" it meant that yes, they would be home the next ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3840.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"evening and if it was\nnot--if it was no--I had to know where they were going, who they were going to\nbe with, what time they were going, what time they would be coming back. It's a\npretty insecure little kid. (laughs) But having her there meant all was right\nwith the world. When she was gone, I needed to know what was happening. I needed\nher to tell me what was happening so it wouldn't be bewildering. Even though I\nleft here when I was 17 and I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"never really came back except to visit, even from\na distance she was able to give me that. I would talk to her every week or so.\nWe would do trips together. I think, the life I lead was . . . on the surface\nshe would say what she was supposed to like \"how could you do that?\" and she\nwould be horrified by (laughs) some of the things that I pulled off. But I know\nthat she got a kick out of it and in her heart of hearts she was living\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"vicariously. I think some of the things I did, I did knowingly for her too, \"Oh,\nMom will get a kick out of this. She won't know it for a while (laughs) but\nshe'll get a kick out of it.\" She always wanted to go hang gliding and I went\nhang gliding. I hated it, but I did it and I wanted to be able to tell her that\nI'd done it. My sister reminded me, on her 60th birthday what she wanted to do\nwas go rafting on the Chattahoochee River, which they did. I wasn't here to do\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3930.0,3960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it. A lot of my outdoor adventures and things, I think she really got a kick out of.\n\nDorothy: This is part of the youthfulness that you talked about when we first\nbegan talking.\n\nJudith: Yes. That was really something great and that is certainly something I\nhope to have at least half as much of as she did. Becoming a parent this late in\nmy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3960.0,3990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"life--I know I'm not old now--but to have an eight-month-old and be looking\nat 40, I hope I have the energy. She had it up until she was 61, so there's\nhope. I hope that part of the legacy comes down to me. I could ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=3990.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just go on and\non, this is sort of free-associating.\n\nDorothy: Which is really unique. I want to thank you. It's been certainly a\ntreat for me to be able to share this time with you and see your mother from yet\nanother direction. Which doesn't mean that if you want to add some things to\nthis, you certainly have that option. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=4020.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/transcript/21612/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All you have to do is touch base with me .\n. .\n\nJudith: Okay.\n\nDorothy: . . . and I will be back. But in the meantime, I want to thank you.\n\nJudith: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=4050.0,4080.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/annotation_set/357","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Annotations [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/annotation_set/357/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eHermione “Hermi” Weil Alexander (1922-1983) was the wife of American architect Cecil Alexander. Like her husband she was very active in the Civil Rights movement in Atlanta, Georgia. She was also the first female jury commissioner in Fulton County history. In 1983, she and Cecil were on their way home and were hit head-on by an intoxicated 16-year-old driver. She was killed and Cecil was injured. The following year, Fulton County passed a resolution officially naming what is now a footbridge located on the Chattahoochee River at Paces Ferry Road not far from their home after Hermi. A plaque installed on the bridge states “Hermione Weil Alexander. She built bridges across gulfs of prejudice and intolerance.” In the aftermath of Hermi’s death, Cecil founded the Hermione Weil Alexander Fund Committee to Combat Drugged and Drunken Driving.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/annotation_set/357/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eCecil Abraham Alexander, Jr. (born Henry Alexander II, 1918-2013) was an American architect, principally a designer of commercial architecture, best known for his work in Atlanta, Georgia. He worked with the firm FABRAP, which, in 1985, became Rosser FABRAP International and later Rosser International. Together with other architects of the firm, he \"shaped the skyline of Atlanta.\"\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/annotation_set/357/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eEdward E. \"Ed\" Augustine (b. 1946) is an attorney practicing in Smyrna, Georgia. He is the husband of Judith Alexander Augustine. He is a graduate of the University of Georgia and the University of Miami Law School.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35150/file/104093/annotation_set/357/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAnsley Park is an early 20th-century suburban residential district that was developed in four phases between 1904 and 1913. It is located north of downtown Atlanta and west of Piedmont Park, between Piedmont Avenue and Peachtree Street. Completed by 1930, the neighborhood encompasses approximately 275 acres and includes single-family residences, apartments, and a church. It features a curvilinear arrangement of streets, numerous parks, and a wide range of eclectic and period architectural styles. 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