{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/gf0ms3mr8b/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Fisher, Carlyn Feldman"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1994-03-08 (captured)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Fisher, Carlyn Feldman (Interviewee)","Young, Lila Beth (Interviewer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source"]},"value":{"en":["William Breman Heritage Museum","Esther and Herbert Taylor Oral History Collection","Jewish Oral History Project of Atlanta"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCarlyn Feldman Fisher begins the interview talking about her family history. She talks about her father’s family roots in Latvia. She traces her mother’s family history, the Saul family, in Georgia in the United States. She reflects on her admiration for her mother and father, noting their character and integrity. She talks about her father’s education and his interest in writing for the Atlanta Constitution. She tells of his experiences while attending the Leo Frank trial. She discusses his business and his contributions to the Jewish community.  \u003cbr\u003eCarlyn talks about her social life at the Standard Club as a young adult and dating and parties while at college. Carlyn speaks of her experiences with antisemitism and tells that all her friends growing up were Jewish. Carlyn talks about her Jewish education and remembers Rabbi David Marx at the Temple. She discusses his views and reflects on her experiences at Sunday school. She mentions that they celebrated holidays but that they did not keep kosher. Carlyn remembers World War II and tells of her experiences during that period. \u003cbr\u003eCarlyn discusses her interest in drawing started as a young child. She reflects that she was born to be an artist. She discusses at length her involvement in art, writing, and filmmaking. She talks about co-founding the Arts Festival of Atlanta and how the art world blossomed in Atlanta afterward. She discusses her contributions to the visual art world to include editing art publications and filmmaking. She tells of the awards she received for her publications and documentaries she produced. She discusses her contributions in Chicago, New York, and Provincetown. She talks about the art installation she designed and installed at the Marcus Jewish Community Center in Atlanta and the vision she had for it. \u003cbr\u003eCarlyn talks about her first husband, Ted Fisher. She talks about her second marriage to Morris B. Abrams. She speaks lovingly about her sister and her daughter. She talks about her grandson, his interest in art, his education in architecture, and their travels abroad together. \u003c/p\u003e (scope content)","\u003cp\u003eCarlyn Feldman Fisher was born in Atlanta, Georgia, in 1923 to Abrom Lewis (A.L.) and Jennie Saul Feldman. Carlyn has one younger sister, Brena Feldman Frey. Her father’s family was from Lativia. Her mother’s family, the Saul family, is from Georgia, arrived to the United States in the 1880s. Her father owned Puritan Chemical Co. in Atlanta. \u003cbr\u003eThe Feldman family belonged to the Temple when Dr. David Marx was rabbi. They celebrated Passover, Rosh HaShana, and Yom Kippur. Some family members were conservative, but they didn’t keep kosher. Carlyn attended Sunday school and was confirmed. The family were members of the Standard Club. Caryln attended Samuel Inman Middle School, Virginia-Highland Elementary School, and Bass Junior High. She earned her Bachelor of Science in Fine Arts at Skidmore College in Saratoga Springs, New York. She has lived in New York and Chicago and lived most of her life in Atlanta.  \u003cbr\u003e \u003cbr\u003eCarlyn is an accomplished artist, writer, and filmmaker. Her contributions to the art world include co-founding the Arts Festival of Atlanta in the 1960s, starting and editing a visual arts publication in Atlanta, The Abstract. She wrote and co-produced Arts of Georgia for Georgia Public Television and wrote a survey called The Arts of Georgia funded by the National Endowment of the Arts. Carlyn was art editor for the Atlanta magazine, Georgia magazine, and The Atlanta Times newspaper. She also wrote for an art publication in Chicago. She served as executive producer for a television documentary Art in its Soul about the Provincetown art colony in Cape Cod. She has also received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Georgia Association of Museums.   \u003cbr\u003e \u003cbr\u003eCarlyn married Victor Feldman at the start of World War II. Her second marriage was to Morris B. Abrams. She has one daughter from her first marriage, Eve Fisher Shulmister. She has one grandson, Benjamin Yorker.    \u003cbr\u003e \u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eCarlyn Feldman Fisher was interviewed by Lila Beth Young on March 8, 1994, in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e (general)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCarlyn Feldman Fisher begins the interview talking about her family history. She talks about her father\u0026rsquo;s family roots in Latvia. She traces her mother\u0026rsquo;s family history, the Saul family, in Georgia in the United States. She reflects on her admiration for her mother and father, noting their character and integrity. She talks about her father\u0026rsquo;s education and his interest in writing for the Atlanta Constitution. She tells of his experiences while attending the Leo Frank trial. She discusses his business and his contributions to the Jewish community. \u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003eCarlyn talks about her social life at the Standard Club as a young adult and dating and parties while at college. Carlyn speaks of her experiences with antisemitism and tells that all her friends growing up were Jewish. Carlyn talks about her Jewish education and remembers Rabbi David Marx at the Temple. She discusses his views and reflects on her experiences at Sunday school. She mentions that they celebrated holidays but that they did not keep kosher. Carlyn remembers World War II and tells of her experiences during that period.\u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003eCarlyn discusses her interest in drawing started as a young child. She reflects that she was born to be an artist. She discusses at length her involvement in art, writing, and filmmaking. She talks about co-founding the Arts Festival of Atlanta and how the art world blossomed in Atlanta afterward. She discusses her contributions to the visual art world to include editing art publications and filmmaking. She tells of the awards she received for her publications and documentaries she produced. She discusses her contributions in Chicago, New York, and Provincetown. She talks about the art installation she designed and installed at the Marcus Jewish Community Center in Atlanta and the vision she had for it.\u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003eCarlyn talks about her first husband, Ted Fisher. She talks about her second marriage to Morris B. Abrams. She speaks lovingly about her sister and her daughter. She talks about her grandson, his interest in art, his education in architecture, and their travels abroad together.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eCarlyn Feldman Fisher was born in Atlanta, Georgia, in 1923 to Abrom Lewis (A.L.) and Jennie Saul Feldman. Carlyn has one younger sister, Brena Feldman Frey. Her father\u0026rsquo;s family was from Lativia. Her mother\u0026rsquo;s family, the Saul family, is from Georgia, arrived to the United States in the 1880s. Her father owned Puritan Chemical Co. in Atlanta.\u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003eThe Feldman family belonged to the Temple when Dr. David Marx was rabbi. They celebrated Passover, Rosh HaShana, and Yom Kippur. Some family members were conservative, but they didn\u0026rsquo;t keep kosher. Carlyn attended Sunday school and was confirmed. The family were members of the Standard Club. Caryln attended Samuel Inman Middle School, Virginia-Highland Elementary School, and Bass Junior High. She earned her Bachelor of Science in Fine Arts at Skidmore College in Saratoga Springs, New York. She has lived in New York and Chicago and lived most of her life in Atlanta. \u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003eCarlyn is an accomplished artist, writer, and filmmaker. Her contributions to the art world include co-founding the Arts Festival of Atlanta in the 1960s, starting and editing a visual arts publication in Atlanta, The Abstract. She wrote and co-produced Arts of Georgia for Georgia Public Television and wrote a survey called The Arts of Georgia funded by the National Endowment of the Arts. Carlyn was art editor for the Atlanta magazine, Georgia magazine, and The Atlanta Times newspaper. She also wrote for an art publication in Chicago. She served as executive producer for a television documentary Art in its Soul about the Provincetown art colony in Cape Cod. She has also received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Georgia Association of Museums. \u0026nbsp;\u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003eCarlyn married Victor Feldman at the start of World War II. Her second marriage was to Morris B. Abrams. She has one daughter from her first marriage, Eve Fisher Shulmister. She has one grandson, Benjamin Yorker. \u0026nbsp; \u0026nbsp;\u003cbr /\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eCarlyn Feldman Fisher was interviewed by Lila Beth Young on March 8, 1994, in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"provider":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Fisher__Carlyn_Feldman.mp3"]},"duration":6113.46286,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-thebreman.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/253/060/original/Fisher__Carlyn_Feldman.mp3?1727304691","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":6113.46286,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Fisher, Carlyn Feldman [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: This is Lila Beth Young interviewing Carlyn Fisher on March 8, 1994, for\nthe Jewish Oral History Project of Atlanta, co-sponsored by the American Jewish\nCommittee, Atlanta Jewish Federation, and the National Council of Jewish Women.\nTell me about what you recall of your grandparents or know of their background,\nwhere they were born, and their occupation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=0.0,19.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: My father’s side. I knew my grandmother. My grandfather [Morris Feldman]\nhad died when my father [Abrom Lewis A.L. Feldman] was 13 years old. Of course,\nI had never met him. My grandmother ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=19.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n[Minnie Schobelstok Feldman] was living with various children on her own. She\njust didn't have a place to live. Like I said, most of her daughters provided a\nhome for her. She was about 78 or so when she died. This was all in Atlanta. The\nonly time I remember her was in Atlanta. She raised her children in Hartwell,\nGeorgia, and such places. When her husband died, she was in really dire straits.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=30.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: How did she get to Hartwell? How did they get to Hartwell?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=55.0,59.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I’m ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=59.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nnot really sure. Except that her husband had heard, my grandfather, heard that\nthat was a good town for Jews. There were a couple of people there that he had\nheard of or knew in some way. Some connection. I think he may have come over\ntogether, but I wouldn't swear that. I mean, New York . . . Latvia. they came\nfrom or somewhere around there. They lived there. He had a little push cart,\ngrandfather. Then they finally got ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nmoney for him. He sold stuff to the farmers. He had a kidney infection and died\nquite young. My father was the oldest boy. There were seven children. He had to\nquit school at the age of 13 and go to work and see what he could do for the\nfamily because they had absolutely nothing. My mother's family [Jennie Saul\nFeldman], the Saul family, had great numbers of Sauls in Georgia. It was logical\nthat they would all come here because each one told the other. They would ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nwrite over to Europe and would come with relatives here. That was my\ngrandfather, David Saul, who I did know. My grandmother, my mother's mother, was\nBrina. B-R-I-N-A [Brina Ettelson], for who my sister was named [Brena Feldman\nFrey]. She was called Brena. They changed it to “e.” Brena. My grandmother Brina\ndied when I was in an infant in arms. I really don't remember her at all, though\nso she was alive when I was born. My grandfather, David Saul ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n. . . Did I say that grandmother’s maiden name was Ettelson? A number of her\nbrothers and sisters and whatever settled, some in South Africa. Her brothers\nwere really rather successful in some parts of South Africa, I think\nJohannesburg or something like that. My grandfather, David Saul, came here and\nwas a dairy farmer. Somehow, they got enough money to raise cows. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhen they married and had a family, they had support from a dairy. Atlanta was\nmuch smaller then. Everybody lived on the south side. The dairy wasn't far from\nwhere they lived, someplace like where the Braves Stadium is. Somewhere along\nthere. That was what kept them going. There were ten children in that family. My\ngrandfather, I remember he died when I was 13. He had been living with his\ndaughter Becky [Rebecca Saul Weinkle], my mother's second oldest sister. He was\na dear man. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe dairy was long gone when I was born. I don’t quite know what happened\nbecause grandmother had died of . I remember grandfather. I don't remember\ngrandmother. She was dead for seven years. That was the way they were. The only\nway I can remember my grandparents because of my parents. I remember all of them\nfrom the day I was old enough to remember anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=210.0,235.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: When do you think your grandparents came to this country?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=235.0,239.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: It ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=239.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nwas somewhere around the 1880s or something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=240.0,243.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Tell me about your parents. Where did they grow up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=243.0,247.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: My father was in Hartwell until he was old enough to be about 15 or 16.\nI think they briefly went to Alabama for some reason. I'm not sure, but they\ncame ultimately to Atlanta. By the time he was 16, he got a job here at Rich’s\nas stock boy or something. Then, my mother was born here and lived here ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=247.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nher whole life. There were 10 children, as I say, in her family. They all lived\nhere. The oldest son went to New York. Made a very successful business career\nout of chain of clothing stores, which is still in existence and still . . .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=270.0,285.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What was that called?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=285.0,287.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Brooks Fashion Stores, Inc. They may have been sold a few a few years\nago because his son was running it. I think they did sell those for many\nmillions of dollars. My mother’s brothers were all very fine merchants. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=287.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey made money, with the exception of one. I think he had been less than 100\npercent. He had been injured when he was young. All the sisters were married,\nand all had children, except for one daughter. My mother's sister did not have\nchildren. I had a lot of cousins.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=300.0,317.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: That must have been fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=317.0,319.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: It was fun. Two of mother's brothers, one of them married, never had\nchildren. The other one didn't marry ever. Come to think of it, the brothers\nwere not . ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=319.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nTwo of them didn't have children. Only two did have children. Three brothers\nnever had children. But the other two did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=330.0,337.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Did you all live close by?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=337.0,339.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: We were very close growing up. Yes. My mother’s sister Becky, with whom\nmy grandfather lived, was walking distance. We walked over there all the time.\nHer two children. That is where grandfather lived. And one of the brothers.\nThere were a great many relatives. We needed a big house. We used to go over\nthere all the time. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=339.0,359.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOr they would come to our house. It was a very close family. What would you call\nit? Extended family, except they're all related.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=359.0,368.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Are they all still here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=368.0,370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: A great many of them moved away. The cousins, that generation. The older\nones did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=370.0,376.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What did your father do after he left Rich’s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=376.0,380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: He worked for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. He said he realized very\nquickly that if he really got that and stayed with that, he would become ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=380.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\na real addict. He really loved that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=390.0,392.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Writing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=392.0,393.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Writing and newspaper work. He even went to the Scopes Trial. He just\npicked up himself and just went because he's always been curious about\neverything that's happened. He has a lot of courage. He wanted to see what he\nwanted to see, and he just saw it. He sat there through the Scopes trial. Also,\nthe Leo Frank case. He was here for that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=393.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What did he tell you about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=413.0,415.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Everybody was scared of the Leo Frank case. All the very wealthy German\nJews moved to hotels. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=415.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey just were frightened. As far as the Scopes trial, of course, that's another\nstory that took place in Tennessee. That was about the monkey trial about\n[Charles] Darwin's theory opposed to the Bible as the source of human\ndevelopment. It was William Jennings Bryan and Clarence Darrow covered that.\nThen he began to get more and more involved in the Constitution in general. 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He made all those things, and he wanted to be complete.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=480.0,490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What did he decide to do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=490.0,492.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: He opened . . . first, he worked for Selig [Chemical Co.], which was a\ncompany that sold cleaning supplies. It was very successful. Simon Selig was the\npresident. He was a good man. Had a good, successful business going. Daddy\nworked for him as a salesman and did well. Did ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=492.0,509.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nvery well. He finally realized this was a good business. He felt like he could\nhave one and run it. So, he went to Mr. Selig. He said, “I want to open a\nbusiness like this. I can tell you right now, I don't want to stay here working\nfor you or anybody. I want to be my own boss. If you would like, I will\ncertainly move my family to Birmingham [Alabama]. There's no reason why I would\nmove it somewhere else. If you feel like I'll be sniping you in the back. I will\nopen the business just like yours here in Atlanta.” Mr. Selig was a very\nfar-sighted and a very wise man. He said, “There's room for both ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=509.0,539.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nof us.” He said, “God bless.” So, my father with one man from the mountains of\nKentucky. He was a bit of a hillbilly. He couldn’t read or write. Totally\nilliterate. A wonderful man. Arthur Geary [sp]. And a black man. George.\nGeorge's name escapes me right now. The three of them. My father hired those\ntwo. George was mixing and making the compound. 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Crazy\nbut creative.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=599.0,605.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What was his involvement in the community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=605.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Everything. He wanted to do, he wanted to give back. I remember him\nsaying when he was paying taxes. “It’s a privilege to participate in this\ncountry. To be in this country and to pay taxes.” He always wanted to give back\nto the community and to give back to society ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=608.0,629.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nall the benefits he felt he felt he had gotten. Repay his debt to them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=629.0,634.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What were some of those things that he gave back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=634.0,638.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: He worked always for Jewish charities. He was part of the group that got\na lot of German Jews out of Germany before it was too late. I'm not quite sure\nhow they did it. I was too young to know the details, but there were some\nimportant Jewish men in town who made it their business to save a lot of Jews ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=638.0,659.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nand to get them here to Atlanta and find jobs and homes and so on. That was just\none that I remember. Of course, some of the ones that got over, were in my\nclasses in school, the children. He's just done so much. He was a member of the\n. . . he was head of the Community Chest drive. He's been the head of the Jewish\nWelfare fund drive. He was he a head of the . . . you name it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=659.0,684.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What about education?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=684.0,685.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: That was his main, obviously. His education was cut short because ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=685.0,689.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nhe had to go to work full time. He went to night school, which was then called\nGeorgia Tech Evening School of Commerce that became Georgia State University.\nWhen he graduated, finally after going to night school a long time, he was the\noldest living alumni. They have a bust of him in the lobby of the Georgia State\nUniversity Administration Building [Urban Life Building]. They honored him,\ncontinually honored him, because he set up a chair for finance and business.\nEstablished a chair for finance and business. 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That was, first thing, he said. “Nobody can ever take your education away,\nbut you got your head wherever you have to run to, you've taken it with you.” He\nwas really high ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=719.0,749.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\non education. He started the Star Program teacher of the year program. Many\nother states later picked it up, but those were his concepts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=749.0,757.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: His ideas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=757.0,758.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: His ideas. At the time, they had to have separate black ones and\nseparate white ones because the school system was segregated with black teachers\nand the white teachers. There were the black staff and the white staff. He went\nalong with that, although he was never, he always resented the segregationist\nsystem. He was on the board of the college in Birmingham ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=758.0,779.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n[University of Alabama at Birmingham]. I get the names mixed up. It was either .\n. . the college was either Pittman College or the president was named Dr.\n[James] Pittman. One or the other. He was on the board long before it was a\npopular thing to do. In fact, it was a scary thing to do. He got them books, and\nhe tried to get them accredited, which meant getting enough books in the library\nfor them to be accredited. 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He was among\nthe first shipment that got there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=869.0,885.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Did he ever talk about any incidents of antisemitism that he encountered\nor overcame?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=885.0,890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: All of us. My life is full of it and so was his. Yes, of course.\novercoming it. I remember one anecdote when he was head of the, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=890.0,899.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nthey used to call, Community Chest. It’s now United Way Drive. He had been\nco-chair. He and then the president of the First National Bank, Ed Smith, were\ntwo co-chairmen. Ed Smith got up to make the opening remarks to this gathering\nof the big givers for the city. Smith was saying how this was such an important\ngathering and important was that these people realize what they can do for the\ncity, what the city needed, and so on. He said, “I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=899.0,929.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nknow you're all good Christians, and I know we're going to give the best you can\nand worship him.” Then my father got up. He said what he had to say about\ngiving. He said, “You know, in Hebrew, there's no word for charity. The word is\ntzedek, which means justice.” He said, “It is justice to give to those who don't\nhave it.” He also said, “We would be better off .” ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=929.0,959.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nYOUNG: Very brave.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=959.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: He said this to the whole bunch of WASPS [white Anglo-Saxon protestant].\nI don't know if there was another Jew there. He used to do things like that all\nthe time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=960.0,969.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Did he have a Jewish education?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=969.0,971.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: He did go to learn Hebrew at a little school in Harlem, believe it or\nnot. There was a little, one man taught Hebrew so these boys could be bar\nmitzvahed. You go through whatever you learn, you know. Daddy went through this.\nWhen his mother was bathing him one night. They had a big tub filled with hot ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=971.0,989.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nwater. She took the kids and bathed them one at a time. She was bathing this\nlittle guy. He was adorable. He was towheaded. White blond hair and blue eyes,\nwhich later turned out . She looked at his body and it was just full of bruises.\nShe asked what are these bruises? It turned out that this guy who was teaching\nHebrew, every time Daddy made a mistake would whop him with a stick. So\ngrandmother quit that. 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I've never met anyone with that kind of integrity and character.\nShe was an unbelievably honorable and decent and refined. I just can't believe\nit when I think about her character. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1031.0,1049.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHer qualities. My father used to say that about her too all the time. “She’s\nbeautiful.” YOUNG: How did they meet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1049.0,1057.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: She was living in Atlanta in this nice big house. Middle class. My\nfather was really poor. He was walking down a street with one of his friends. It\nwas a neighborhood where . . . Atlanta was small . . . some Jewish people living\nthere. Mother said all other neighbors were non-Jewish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1057.0,1078.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Where was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1078.0,1079.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1079.0,1079.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: It was like Washington Avenue. Capitol Avenue. Somewhere over there. She\nwas watering the lawn with the hose. Daddy was walking down the street with one\nof his friends, and he turned around and looked at her. He said to the young man\nhe was walking with, he said, “I don't know who she is, but I'm going to meet\nher, and I'm going to marry her.” He turned to mother and he said, “I want to\nintroduce myself. I don't know you, but I'm going to get to know you very well.” ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1079.0,1109.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nAt which point, she turned the hose on him. Ultimately, they did meet under\nbetter circumstances. They did indeed get married and it really was a wonderful marriage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1109.0,1121.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Did they marry young?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1121.0,1123.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Mother was 18 and Daddy being 5 years older would have been 23.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1123.0,1129.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: How long were they married?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1129.0,1132.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: They were married until Mother died. They were married 60 years, I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1132.0,1138.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: A long time. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1138.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhat about you? Where did you grow up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1140.0,1143.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Here in Atlanta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1143.0,1145.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1145.0,1146.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: We first lived over on Briarcliff in Brookwood. When Mother and Daddy\nfirst married, they moved in to my grandmother's, my father's mother's house.\nShe had gotten us by this time. She had all these kids. A lot of small kids.\nMother and Daddy moved in with them. Then they got their own place. That ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1146.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\none . . . I guess the first one. The first one, I remember was on Kent Street\nand Park Place. Then we moved to Briarcliff. It was in the Druid Hills area.\nWhen my sister was born, I think we were living on Briarcliff. That area. That\npart of town. Northeast side of town. Then my mother and father got a home on\nSpringdale Road. I spent my teen years there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1170.0,1197.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Where did you go to elementary ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1197.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1200.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Samuel Inman [Middle School] I went for two years. When we moved, I went\nto Virginia-Highland Elementary School. From there to Bass Junior High, which\nwas a system they stopped. My daughter didn't do this. Three years of junior\nhigh and then three years of high school. I had the very good fortune of being\nable to go to Girls’ High School, which was the most incredible possible school.\nPeople just can't believe it was in Atlanta, Georgia. They had separated the Boys’ ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHigh [School] and Girls’ High. The Girls’ High was taught by these young women\nfrom wealthy, accultured families in Atlanta who had gone to Wellesley\n[College], Smith [College], Columbia [University]. Some of them had master's\ndegrees. Vassar [College]. What are they going to do when they come home, these\nyoung women, that would be respectable in anything that would challenge these\nvery educated, very intelligent women? They taught at Girls’ High. I had a\nclassy education. I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nwent to the college preparatory track. I had four years of Latin. My Latin\nteacher later became Dean of . . . she wrote Latin books. You went to Western\n[College]. She was the dean in something and continued to do work in Latin.\nThree years of French and algebra. Not algebra. That was junior high. My science\nteacher was a from Columbia University. History teacher was Wellesley. My\nliterature teacher, Smith. I mean, that was . . . when ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI was a college freshman, I didn’t have to open a book. Biology. I just made\nstraight A's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1290.0,1296.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1296.0,1297.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I really had great college education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1297.0,1299.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Who was in your class and were you in any sororities or clubs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1299.0,1304.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: There was one Jewish sorority. I think it was called Zeta Beta. I don't\nremember the name of the Jewish sorority. My mother and father said they didn’t\nthink sororities were good. They were exclusive. They didn't think it was for\nyoung girls. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1304.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey were going to get their feelings hurt. Girls didn’t get in for stupid\nreasons. They were dead right. One girl didn't get in because another girl\nblackballed for her church or something equally important. I did join. I got\nbored after a year or two. It was just a little short-term thing anyway in high\nschool. But, you see, they had Jewish . . . they separated it out. Of course,\nthey had social sororities, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nthe pre-debutantes, and the Christian community. The Jewish women, young girls,\nwere definitely out. There was no question that antisemitism was tremendous when\nI was growing up, right away, even before I started school. Do you want to hear\nall this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1350.0,1372.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Yes. Definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1372.0,1374.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: When we moved into this duplex on Brookwood Drive. It was street. 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I really wish I'd known ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1381.0,1411.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nyou would be here. I surely would have had a streamer for you. I'll tell you\nwhat, since you can't join this party, tomorrow morning, we live just next\ndoor.” She pointed to the house. “Tomorrow morning, you come over and you can\nmeet and play with Marianne.” I could hardly wait for tomorrow morning. I got up\npractically at dawn. Maybe a bit too early. But, I did go over there. Knocked on\nthe back or rang the front door. I forgot which. Marianne had beautiful blue\neyes and her blond, curly hair, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1411.0,1441.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nopened the door, stuck her head out and saw me. I said, “Marianne, my name is\nCarlyn, and your mother said I can play with you this morning.” She said, “I'm\nnot going to play with you, you Jew. You killed Christ.” And she slammed the\ndoor in my face.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1441.0,1455.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Oh my Goodness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1455.0,1456.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I had no idea what she was talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1456.0,1459.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: How old were you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1459.0,1460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I was four. The idea of Christ wasn't in my head. I never heard of him.\nCertainly killing. She closed the door. This is the catcher. I said, “I didn't\nkill him. Maybe my daddy did.” ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1460.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI don't know what she was talking about. I went home and immediately got back\nupstairs. My Daddy was still in there. I explained what happened. I told him\nthat I didn't do it but maybe my Daddy did. Of course, that really tickled my\nfather. But he said, “Honey, I want you to sit down. We might as well start now.\nLet me explain to you what this is all about.” So, with that, I got the whole\npicture. In school . . . she, Marianne was her name. She was Catholic. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nOf course, the Catholics make it real clear that the Jews killed Christ, at that\ntime. I guess the church may have modified. I don't know. At any rate, when I\ngot there, she was busy telling everybody that I was a Jew. Obviously, the\nparents knew that I was a Jew, that a Jew moved in next door. That tells you\nsomething right there, doesn’t it? Today, if somebody moved in next door, you\nwouldn't necessarily know what their religion would be. Anyhow, all through\nschool they ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n, mainly about Marrianne, but there were other tormentors too. When I would was\nin fifth or sixth grade, no, I was seven years old. That's about the what grade?\nSecond grade. I was at Highland School at that time. I remember walking home\nfrom school one day, and the woman next door, Mrs. Long, yelled out at me, “You\nhussy. 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Up to junior high school, I didn't even\npretend to try to make friends with non-Jews. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1574.0,1589.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI had had enough of that. So, the only friends I had in school were Jewish.\nDon't forget, I was a Reform Jew. We were at the Temple. Rabbi [David] Marx was\nthe rabbi. In fact, he lived in the same place we did, the same apartment\ncomplex, he and his wife. My father was in great despair because Rabbi Marx . .\n. You probably heard this. He was kind of antisemitic. 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They were still kind of conservative. We\nnever kept kosher. Nobody in my family knew how to do that. Sisters and brothers\nand cousins. Nobody did that. We celebrated Passover, Rosh HaShana, Yom Kippur,\nand all that. We went to Sunday school, my sister and I. 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What were your memories of Sunday school and confirmation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1739.0,1743.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: They were terrible. We were misbehaved. It was outrageous. We had no\nrespect for ourselves as Jews and no respect for our teachers. You can imagine.\nWe were just awful. It was a matter of trying to keep us from jumping out the\nwindows and running around on the roof and things like that. It was absolutely a\nwaste of time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1743.0,1762.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What was your confirmation like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1762.0,1764.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: We had a party afterwards and we got presents and things like that, but\nit was nothing. 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I knew how little\nwe respected it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1770.0,1779.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What was your social life like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1779.0,1782.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Very important. There were all of us in the Temple Sunday school class\nwho were together all the time. Thirteen of us. The Lucky 13 Club. We associated\nwith boys in our class. 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Did you stay friendly with\nthem your whole life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1844.0,1852.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: We all disbursed, with very few exceptions. I could give you their\nnames. It would mean very little. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1852.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI think they’ve all moved. I kept up with one. Constance Jacobus [sp] was one.\nShe married. She has one of the biggest and most important and most successful\nbusinesses in New Jersey. She was a real business success. Strange because none\nof the rest of us knew how to do anything. And she just did that. Most of them\ndid what they're supposed to do. They married and had children and became the\nhousewife, the mother, and the husband’s help. They were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nintelligent women. One of them finally married. Shirley Massell. Shirley married\na man in Savannah. She finally went back to school and got a law degree. But she\nnever practiced law. There were others, but they really were not doing much in\ntheir career for themselves at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1890.0,1912.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: How did you choose your college in your career?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1912.0,1917.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: My friend Elaine Montag, now Elaine Lang, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1917.0,1921.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nhad gone there, so I knew the school and she liked it. She was two years ahead\nof me. My father had always said . He just adored education and first-class\neducation. He looked up to these people as though they were just something\nspecial. Naturally, I was programed to go to Wellesley or Smith or Vassar or\nsomething like that. I did very well in school. There were no . . ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=1921.0,1951.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n. we didn't take any practice SATs or anything like that. We took, what do you\ncall, aptitude test. Scholastic aptitude test is what we were given. They\ndivided the school, Girls’ High, in various sections. There were 10 sections.\nLet’s say there are 10A. I was always in A1. 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And I did not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2011.0,2013.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Into Smith?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2013.0,2014.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Into Wellesley. I threw in Skidmore [College] as a safety school. Thank\nGod I did, because, they accepted me and the others did not. So, I went to Skidmore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2014.0,2025.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What about your parents’ social life when you were growing up? Were you\ninvolved in their club and their activities?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2025.0,2033.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Occasionally there would family outings, of course, and all that were\nproper for children. We would always go. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2033.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe were a very close family. There was no question in my sister's mind or my\nmind that we were number one throughout the house. Number one, above everything.\nNo doubt about it. Daddy often would say that if he hadn’t gotten what he wanted\nfor his children, he would have moved his children. He wanted the best for us.\nIf he couldn't get us in somewhere, he would move to somewhere where he could.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2040.0,2063.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Were you the oldest?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2063.0,2065.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I was older. My sister was two years younger.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2065.0,2068.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Were you close?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2068.0,2069.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Very. 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What was your parents’\nsocial life and your involvement?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2070.0,2079.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: We spent the summers at the Standard Club. We swam and played tennis and\nall kinds of parties. I was dating as a teenager. We were always at the Standard Club.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2079.0,2092.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What about the Knickerbocker Club?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2092.0,2094.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I never heard of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2094.0,2096.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: I’m sorry. 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They came over before the\nRussian Jews and Eastern European Jews. Of course, my family were Eastern\nEuropeans second wave Jews from Atlanta. The Standard Club was where most of the\nestablished wealthy, educated, cultured German Jews belonged. They started it. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2099.0,2129.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nMy father first worked there. My father was determined that that's where we\nwould go and be. Those are the people my sister and I associated with, which is\nof course what happened. Our social life was the Standard Club. The Mayfair Club\nwas fun. There were members who belonged to that one. There was a third, the\nProgressive Club. 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That is really where it started.\nMy friends all came from there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2159.0,2166.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What about college? What was college like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2166.0,2169.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I was amazed to see that the Jewish people there made no bones about\nbeing Jewish. This was not . . . don't forget, I'm in New York state. 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It took me all the freshman year before to get\nthe courage to make friends with non-Jews.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2189.0,2197.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Were there that many Jews at Skidmore?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2197.0,2200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: They were highly visible, New York Jews and the Massachusetts Jews. Yes,\nthere would be enough for me to be surprised. 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Camp\nAvalon. .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2219.0,2234.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Those were Jewish camps?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2234.0,2236.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Yes, they were all Jewish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2236.0,2239.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: And you said your husband?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2239.0,2242.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I met my husband at the one in Wisconsin. 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The boys would sit on the chapel side for the boys.\nWe did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2249.0,2268.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: How were you when you met your husband?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2268.0,2271.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Fifteen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2271.0,2272.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Where was he from?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2272.0,2274.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Cleveland, Ohio.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2274.0,2275.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: And you kept up after camp?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2275.0,2278.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: We wrote. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2278.0,2279.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHe said, “If I write to you, will you write to me?” He was going to Cornell\n[University] and I was going to Skidmore. They were not that far apart. He\ninvited me up for football weekend. We're the same age. Born the same year. We\nfell madly in love at the first football game we attended together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2279.0,2299.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: When did you get married?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2299.0,2301.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: We got married three years later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2301.0,2303.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: You waited until you graduated?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2303.0,2305.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: No. No, this was the Second World War story in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2305.0,2309.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n1941. That’s when we were there. He was in the [United States] Army. Everything\nturned upside down when the Second World War hit. Everybody remembers where he\nor she was on December the 7th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2309.0,2325.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Where were you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2325.0,2327.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I was at The Tavern. We used to go to the town of Saratoga, full of bars\nand dancing places to taverns there. It ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2327.0,2339.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nwas mostly just bars. We all went on the weekends. The boys would come over from\nUnion [College] or from Hanover [College]. A lot of boys. And we would go. We\ndidn't drink that much. Or, we did drink on Saturday night and go to a little\nplace called The Tavern. We were in there drinking beer or something. The radio\nwas on, and we heard it. Everything came to a dead stop. 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Victor Fisher. I named my daughter Eve Victoria Fisher.\nThat's why the Victors and Victorias. He was in Cleveland. 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My\nfather thought it was a really bad mistake.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2428.0,2440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Your father didn't like him?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2440.0,2442.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: No, my father just didn't think I should get married before the Second\nWorld War and my husband going over to be shot at. 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He cut out all the Jewish stuff in the service, which he had been doing\nto all the rituals ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2458.0,2488.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nand ceremonies in Judaism as long as he could and as hard as he could. When the\nceremony was over, we were indeed married. The rabbi, who was my husband's\ngrandfather, was furious. Steaming. marched up to Rabbi Marx and said, “Do you\ncall a Jewish wedding?” He let him have it. He recited all the parts the rabbi\nhad left out. Rabbi Marx got so miffed, he left and wouldn’t stay for the wedding. 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I made serious research in this. I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2542.0,2548.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nwill tell you, you are born an artist. I was drawing on my mother's walls when I\nwas two years old, sitting on my potty stool. Then I didn't call myself an\nartist, any more than you would . . . I don't know, you just are what you are. I\ndrew on everything. I mean, really on everything. My mother said later when she\nfound out I started college and signed up immediately to be an art major, I\ndidn't take any of it in high school or any other school. 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I went right into the all the academic college preparatory\ncourses. You know, kindergarten and in grammar school, you just do art in\nschool. They always had me to do the posters. I was always the one that they\nwould say to up to the black board and draw a daisy and make it . All my friends\nall around me in school would say, “Can you draw me a picture?” I was always\ndrawing pictures for them and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2582.0,2609.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nfor everybody. But I never studied it. Then when I got to college, I just walked\nin and they said you have to declare your major.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2609.0,2619.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Right in the beginning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2619.0,2621.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: First year. I walked right into the gym where they were signing you up.\nFreshman year, first day or two. I hadn't even thought about it. 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He wanted me to be independent and learn how to make a living.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2639.0,2644.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: That was very forward, wasn’t it, in that age.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2644.0,2647.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Yes. Of course, the only thing he could think of was secretarial or\nnursing. Because in those days, that’s what women did. 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I went to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2667.0,2669.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nthis dry business school. They kicked me out. It was my summer vacation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2669.0,2673.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Between your freshman and sophomore years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2673.0,2675.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Yes. I said to Dad, “Don't worry, I'll learn to type. I'll be able to\nmake a living.” I went in there to take the typing class. I couldn’t stand it.\nIt just was horrible. I mean, they timed you. They had the covers on the keys so\nyou don't know which A or B what you're doing. We were supposed to know the\nkeyboard. I don’t know if they still do that or not. Of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2675.0,2699.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ncourse, I don’t have to type because everything is computerized. Anyway, there's\na pattern to all the keyboards and are uniform. So, if you know where A is on a\nRoyal [Typewriter], you knew where it was on a . I just couldn't handle it.\nFinally, I’m in sheer desperation . . . they would take a minute. You’re\nsupposed to finish this page of typing it up in five minutes. But for every\nmistake you make, I already completed. 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I still can’t type after all these years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2770.0,2777.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What kind of art classes did you take at Skidmore?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2777.0,2781.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: YOUNG: You wanted to be a painter or a sculptor? Did you know? You said\nyou wanted to be an artist. 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Of course, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2788.0,2818.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nwe had to learn how to paint. I never used paints, so they had to teach me how\nto use watercolor. They weren’t that difficult. Watercolors are very taxing and\nare very challenging. That was the one I had trouble with because you really\nhave to learn the technique. That is a technique. You can figure it out for\nyourself because you can repaint and you can go over it. It’s just simple. It\nwas like ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2818.0,2848.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nposter paints when I was a kid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2848.0,2851.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What about perspective?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2851.0,2853.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: We took a course in classical perspective. We had those German drawing\npans, the metal pans made in Germany that you learned. perspective. The whole\nbit, we learned. I must say that I was very, very .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2853.0,2871.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What did you do with the other summers that you didn't take typing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2871.0,2878.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2878.0,2878.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI guess there was a heavy war out there, you know. 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He came home in 1946. It was really\na disaster. Everybody else was home, and he was there. He had gone over in 1944\nto the Pacific. He was in New Guinea. Then ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2894.0,2909.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nhe went to Philippines after the war ended. He called me once. This was the most\ngrateful moment. At that time, they let some of them call home. You can imagine,\nI hadn't spoken to him in a year and half. We had written every day for all\nthese years, a year and a half, whatever it was. Then he called me on the phone.\nAnd there was his voice. I could just barely . . . it was almost overwhelming.\nHe said, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2909.0,2939.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n“I’m calling from Manila [Philippines].” I said, “Are you coming home? You are\ncoming home. You’re calling to tell you're coming home.” He said, “No, no.” He\nsaid, “I haven't finished serving my time.” But he said, “With a little luck,\nthey will send me to China.” That did it. I said, “Just don't bother to call\nagain until you're coming home. This is more than I can bear.” I really cracked\nup over that one. 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But, no, he didn’t go to China.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2976.0,2981.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Where did you settle after that when he came home?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2981.0,2986.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: By that time, I had . . . that made me really ill. It was just so\nhorrendous. It made me ill. I was moping around. 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He had a cousin who was a doctor, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nand he thought maybe I should go to for a physical, which I did. He put me in a\nroom. My heart. I could hear it. He said that I should never have any children.\nHe said, “ on death's door. There's no way I could possibly deal with that. I\nhad to pay attention to this and not do certain things that other people are\ndoing.” I paid no attention to him whatsoever. I just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ndidn't pay any attention to it. In any event, I came home. Once Ted was home, I\nfelt a lot better. Then I got pregnant, which I couldn’t wait to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3060.0,3071.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What did he do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3071.0,3073.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: He came to work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3073.0,3075.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: That's great. He got to stay in Atlanta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3075.0,3078.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Yes, he did. He'd much preferred that. He didn't want to go back to\nCornell. His father had gone to an electrical engineer. Ted hated it. He didn't\nwant to finish as an electrical engineer. So, he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3078.0,3091.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ndidn't finish. He came back and became a salesman for my father’s company.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3091.0,3096.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: And your daughter?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3096.0,3098.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: This was my first child. She was born in 1946 in Atlanta at Emory\n[Hospital]. I didn't . . . we know anything about babies or children. I didn't\neven know how sick she was, but it was clear to the doctor. It was clear to my\nnurse and some of the older, my mother's friends, could tell ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3098.0,3121.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nbecause they knew about babies, that something was wrong with her. Finally, the\npediatrician, when she was six months old, the pediatrician couldn't diagnose\nit. We took her to every specialist everywhere. He said we should go up to\nCincinnati Children's Hospital where he had trained. We went up there. She told\nus the baby was a Niemann-Pick baby. That's related to Jews.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3121.0,3144.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: The what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3144.0,3145.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Niemann-Pick. Tay-Sachs is another one. Niemann-Pick is even rarer than\nTay-Sachs. It has to have recessive ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3145.0,3151.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ngenes in both parents. You know about genetic Mendelian laws for recessive\ngenes. You have to have two to produce whatever it is. She obviously had the\ngene Niemann-Pick. But it was not easy to diagnose. It is very rare. It’s a\ngenetic defect. She lived to be only 18 years. It was hard. Let’s stop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3151.0,3179.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Yes, let’s stop. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3179.0,3181.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\npauses, then resumes\u0026gt; YOUNG: How did you develop your art as an artist when\nyou came back to Atlanta?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3181.0,3189.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I got out of college with my degree in art and I finally learned how to\npaint and all the rest. I don't think I tried any sculptural art. Immediately, I\nwanted to connect with some artists here in Atlanta. All this was so new. I\nwanted to be ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3189.0,3211.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nable to do what I've always done all my life anyway, but I have a reason to do\nit. There wasn’t any place. There wasn't a gallery in town. There wasn’t a place\nto show it. There was the High Museum [of Art]. But it had a collection from the\nHigh family. Very few other things really were noteworthy to talk about. There\nwas nothing going on for the local artist. Absolutely nothing. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3211.0,3241.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI had heard of a place . They decided they were going to have a art show or\nsomething. She described it as people can walk by on Sunday and look at art.\nThat’s it, we’re going to have an art show in Atlanta. I really didn't know anybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3241.0,3266.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What year was this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3266.0,3269.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: This was in 1953 or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3269.0,3272.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n1952. It was somewhere around there. My father knew a man, George Beebee [sp],\nwho was a painter. I can’t quite remember how I met him, except maybe . . .\nNobody had ever taken me to the High Museum of Art the whole time I was growing\nup. My parents weren’t involved or interested in it. The only thing I could\nthink of that I ever had in the way of exposure to art when I was in school, was\nthere was a little art teacher in my junior high school. We all had to have one ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3272.0,3302.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nclass with him. That's when they always made me make posters. For one reason or\nanother, [Vincent] van Gogh was beginning to be appreciated. This would have\nbeen in the 1930s. He got some copies, some prints of Van Gogh's. He put them\nall up around the library and then took us in there. It was the first art I had\never seen, even reproductions of things. I remember that very well because it\nwas a powerhouse for me to see those things. He would ask us when he just showed\nit to us. He said, “Does anybody ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3302.0,3332.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nhave anything to say or any questions about it?” Nobody said anything. I said,\n“Yes. Why did he make those strokes, you know, so active and so busy?” He said,\n“Do you see the radiator over there by the window?” The heat was coming up. You\ncould see heat coming up, and you could see the air behind it. It looked like\nwaves. You could see the waves, the heat waves. You really could see them. He\nsaid, “Do you see that?” I saw it. He said, “That's why.” ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3332.0,3362.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThat was the beginning of that. The only other thing I saw when I was growing up\nthat was in any way remotely related to art was the Cyclorama. It was a panel.\nSince then, I have never had been able to stop the canvas at the bottom. You\nknow how it comes from the wall?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3362.0,3387.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3387.0,3388.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: That's a three-dimensional model. That was just it. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3388.0,3392.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhen I got to college, that was a different story. We had a gallery in the art\ndepartment. One of the first things I saw was Jackson Pollock. I could have\nbought the whole shop for $400. We had a good art department. They exposed us to\nall sorts of art. When I got back here, there was absolutely nothing. Anyhow,\nthis guy, George Beebee, whom I knew somehow. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3392.0,3422.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nYOUNG: Was he Jewish?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3422.0,3423.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3423.0,3424.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: He was charming. He’s still here around town. Then I talked to the\nmother of a friend of mine, Mrs. Montag, who painted. I mean, she painted. I\nwent over to her house. I said to her that I want to start an art something here\nin town. She said, “It will never work.” I said, “Do you know George Beebee?”\n“Yes, I’ll invite him over.” She invited George Beebee. She was there and I\nforgot somebody else who was totally not going to help in any way, but I didn't\nknow that. The only person I could even dream of was interested in art. I said,\n“I want ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3424.0,3452.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nto have it at the park. I want to show the city that we have living, working\nartists in town. I want the artists to get to know each other.” ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3452.0,3482.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThey all said, “No, don't even try.” In the first place, . In the second place,\n. There was somebody else, I don’t know who now, who heard about artists. “There\nis another woman in town who is saying the same thing as you are. Her name is\nCarolyn Becknyl. Here, call her.” YOUNG: Excuse me. Just a second.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3482.0,3504.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Anyway, they gave me Carolyn Becknyl’s name and number. I called her.\nShe had talked to some people, but she ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3504.0,3512.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nhad decided she too had decided of having something for the artists in town. .\nWhat she was going to do, really, was to have a backyard show. The office she\nwas using as interior designer was in the corner on a little street in Buckhead\noff of West Paces [Ferry Road], which had a nice backyard. There was a landscape\narchitect there. Dougherty [sp]. Also two ceramicists in that building. “Yes, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3512.0,3542.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nwe'll have a little show with what we know and can do it in the backyard.” They\nhad started to get that together. They knew more artists than I did because\nCarolyn Becknyl had gone to the University of Georgia as an art student. She\nknew a lot of them. I said, “No, no. I want to have this in the park. We can\nstart in the backyard. Then we’ll go to Piedmont Park and we’ll take over.” She\nsaid, “Let's have a look around here.” So we had the backyard show in 1953 in October.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3542.0,3569.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: In whose backyard?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3569.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: This was a little house ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3570.0,3572.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nthat Harry Norman Realtor used for his office. It's on the corner of West Paces\nFerry and, what is that street? East Andrews [Drive], I guess. At any rate, it’s\nstill there, I think. They've made into more of an office now. That was the\nfirst one. Then we had a very successful show and everybody . . .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3572.0,3595.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: How did you advertise it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3595.0,3597.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Carolyn knew a lot of the artists. She told them ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3597.0,3601.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nthat I’m dying to do this. Then, I think somebody said . . . I know what it was.\nOne of her friends named Bobby Clark [sp], who has since died, said let's go\ndown to the Constitution and tell them what we're doing. Carolyn, Bobby, and I\ngo in the middle of the night, because they work at night. We said, “We've got\nsomething really good to tell you.” We were so whacko, but at least it will be a\ngood story, whacko enough to make a decent story. So, they sent someone. 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The next thing we knew, after this very successful\nshow in the back yard . . .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3631.0,3640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What season was this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3640.0,3642.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: October. 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Carolyn Becknyl and I\ndecided that we really had to go through George Simons, who was head of the\nParks Department. They said to me, without giving any particular reason, “We'll\ngo down .” So, we go down to George Simon's office. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3754.0,3781.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWe say, “We want to put together an art show, and obviously the city is ready\nfor it. We couldn't even contain the people who came to see it. We want to put\nit up at Piedmont Park in that space on Piedmont Road and show paintings and\nsculpture. We decided we wanted performances of Atlanta Ballet and have a band.”\nWe had this whole thing figured out. 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His name was George Simons. He was head of Parks\nDepartment. So, through various means, we went around him. We got this because\nof some really heavy-duty names. They liked the idea. Georgia Power Company and\nthe Coca-Cola Company. C\u0026amp;S Bank. People like that liked the idea. It’s\nawfully hard for George Simons to say no. We got all of them and told them that\nthey were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3845.0,3871.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ngoing to be our sponsors. They said yes and wrote us checks for $400 and $200.\nIn those days, it did the trick. We finally got a hold of Ben Massell, a big\nbuilder in those days. 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We\nhad to start weeding out some of these artists. We didn’t have room for\neverybody. The people from Chattanooga [Tennessee] always wanted to come down.\nWe said sure. We began to separate them, the really professional trained artists\nfrom the amateurs. That worked out pretty ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4119.0,4142.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nwell. Craftsmen in one place. Sculpture in another. We said that this will be\nthe last performance of the Atlanta City Ballet because a man almost killed\nhimself dancing on gravel. We had poetry readings. We just had everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4142.0,4160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: How many years did you stay that closely linked to it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4160.0,4166.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Twelve or so years. Maybe 13 or 14 years. 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Sometimes it was just anywhere I could find, like at Bruce\nHathaway’s house. There were three other artists who rented out the other rooms.\nWe all had lunch together, which was really very nice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4337.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Did you critique each other's work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4350.0,4352.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Sometimes we would ask. 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I first started a little publication that came out\nquarterly called The Abstract. I was the editor. I would have artists . Then I\nshepherded it through printers. It was part membership for arts festival members ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4386.0,4415.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nto get their copy. Then I decided that wasn't enough. Atlanta magazine had begun\nto . . . first started in 1960 or 1962. Jim Townsend was the editor. Just a\nwonderful man. Here’s who I worked with when I worked at Atlanta magazine. .\nPaul Hampfield [sp]. Bill Diehl was my editor. I mean, he picked the best. Betty Fincher. 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I knew the questions to ask and what they were all\nabout. So, I was writing. I was the only art editor. I wrote a regular section,\nas many pages as I wanted to on art in the Atlanta magazine. After that, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4478.0,4505.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI moved to Chicago [Illinois] in 1967.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4505.0,4508.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Why did you move to Chicago?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4508.0,4511.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Ted moved there. Change of jobs and moved there. When I got up there,\nthere was an art magazine being published. The name of it escapes me, but it was\na good one. He asked me if I would write for that, which I did. That was\nexciting. I continued to write. Then, there was another newspaper that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4511.0,4535.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nopened up after a couple of years here in Atlanta, The Atlanta Times. They\nwanted me to be there, which I was. I was writing for The Atlanta Times and the\nAtlanta magazine at the same time. Then I came back from Chicago, and I wrote\nfor them. When I came back from Chicago, PBS [Georgia Public Television] called\nme. Atlanta Channel 8. 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They gave each state $25,000, which in 1966\nwas a lot of money to pay someone to do a report in any form that they chose on\ncultural resources of the state. What you got and what you needed. They chose me\nbecause anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4655.0,4679.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: It was quite an honor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4679.0,4682.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: They didn’t know anybody else, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4682.0,4685.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nactually. Anyway, I was very thrilled they did. They gave me the job. It was a\nmarvelous job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4685.0,4694.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Let's stop here for just a second while I change the tape.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4694.0,4701.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: With Carlyn Fisher on March 8, 1994. 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I guess\nthat was the logical move for them to choose me to do the report on the cultural\nresources for the National Endowment for Georgia. Each state was assigned this\ntask. The upside, I would travel the state to find out what was available and\nwhat was needed. It took me a year to do all this travel and get all these ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4716.0,4745.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nstatistics, facts, and meet the people. Then I wrote a book, which is still in\nuse, coincidentally. What is it? [The arts in Georgia: a Report to the Georgia\nArt Commission, 1967]. Anyway, it's a real documentation. It includes places in\nmany cities and everywhere, where they can hold little string quartets and\nlittle theater things where they have no outdoor . Also, every place in the\nstate of Georgia has a ballet company or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4745.0,4775.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nanything like that. Or a little painting school, a little gallery, a museum.\nThat's required. And any other colleges and universities that have art\ndepartments. That's included. Also, all the arts that I could find, performing\nand visual, were documented in that book, as well as some recommendations for\nwhat we had and what we needed. What we needed, and what I had, again, some\nprojects. 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They had all been rooming\nhouses and stuff. It was nice. We were only there until 1972, when we moved back\nto Atlanta. Again, I got a studio. Moved into an apartment when we came back. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4845.0,4865.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI took an office, a little cheap office, not far from where we lived. I was\ndivorced from Ted in 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4865.0,4875.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Were you still writing? When you came back, were you still writing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4875.0,4881.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Yes. At that time, there was another magazine. Jim Townsend was no\nlonger with the Atlanta magazine. He started a new one called Georgia something\nor another. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4881.0,4895.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI was the art editor for that one too. I think actually that may be when I\nworked for that other newspaper. I can't remember where I was writing. This\ntime, I was no longer involved in the arts festival. He didn't really need me.\nYou know, you get stale in something after a while. In fact, I don't even know\nanybody over there. I'm ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4895.0,4925.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nsure they don't know me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4925.0,4928.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Do you show at the arts festival?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4928.0,4932.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Once in a while. Sometimes , but generally no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4932.0,4938.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: It takes a whole week to set up there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4938.0,4944.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: We started .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4944.0,4946.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Do you still write?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4946.0,4949.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Not in a long time. I moved to New York again ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4949.0,4956.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nand married Morris B. Abrams. I lived in New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4956.0,4960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: He was well known because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4960.0,4963.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: He's a notable figure, a public figure. He was the president of Brandeis\n[University], among other things. 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Judy Alexander's gallery here in Atlanta was a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5149.0,5167.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nvery notable gallery, and very important artists would come here. She would give\nthem exhibitions before anybody even knew how important they were. I would meet\nthem and talk to them and know them. I guess I was very fortunate in that I had\nsome contacts. Whatever I got was on my own. I've never been a powerhouse as far\nas a great artist. I’m a artist in the hierarchy of art. 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Provincetown [Massachusetts] is\na place I've always heard of. It was a great art colony. What happened in\nProvincetown was a microcosm. What happened in the United States in macrocosm.\nThat is to say, the movements in the arts and so on. The artists during this\nperiod were in Provincetown for the summer. I said to the people who were\nrunning this Centennial, Ter-Centennial they called it, I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5226.0,5256.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nwanted to do a film. I'd like to do a film on the Provincetown art colony, how\nit got started and all that. There again, they said, “Oh you can’t be silly. You\ncan't do that.” One of the guys who was in charge of all this . . . we were in a\nvillage called the Dennis Village, which is in midtown. Provincetown is the very\ntip of Cape Cod. The guy who was in charge of things of the Ter-Centennial, he\nsaid, “You can’t do that. Besides which, you can't stick to just Provincetown.\nYou’ve got to include the whole cake.” ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5256.0,5286.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI said, “The art scene was in Provincetown and this movie about art is only\nabout Provincetown.” Nothing happened in . So, he and I parted company. I went\nup there. But this time there was a little museum , an art museum. I was active\nin that. I said, “Okay, I'm going to do this, and I'll do it so that we can make\neverything tax exempt. We’re going to show it through the museum. You’ll own the\ncopyright. If anything comes of that, you'll get the money.” ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5286.0,5316.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI said, “It’s the best way to work it, and we'll be free of a lot of paperwork.”\nHe said, “That's great. Okay.” So, I did it on that basis. I hired a lawyer who\nwas a journalist. Then I found a guy who was a great editor. Oh, was he\nfabulous. He was out of New York. Somebody, a friend of mine that I had met who\nwas with the Smithsonian in Washington, knew him. Carl . I met Carl when I was\nliving in New York, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5316.0,5346.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nand I'm just going to the Cape to do all this. I met Carl, and I knew he was it.\nHe was fabulous. Then I had a cameraman who lived and worked on Cape. He was a\nTV cameraman for the Cape Cod television stations. Jim Gabriel [sp], he was\nwonderful. We put it together, and we made an award-winning film. The History of\nthe Art Colony of Provincetown. It is still showing. In fact, it is being\ndistributed by . . . what is the name of the company? 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It’s shown in universities and museums\nand whenever anybody wants to know about the arts, they get that documentary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5376.0,5383.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: That’s wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5383.0,5384.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Yes, we interviewed some important artists who were there at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5384.0,5388.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Then what did you do when you came back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5388.0,5391.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: To Atlanta?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5391.0,5392.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Yes. How did you get back involved or did you stay involved?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5392.0,5396.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I used to come here because my parents were here. I was here all the\ntime. My sister was here. I used to come back at least once a month for at least\na long weekend, so I never ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5396.0,5407.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nlost touch with my friends. I moved back. I immediately got a studio. Right back\nat it. They remembered me. Of course I remembered them, everybody, and the\ngalleries and everything. I actually never left the gallery when I was there.\nHeath Gallery. It was a superb gallery. down the street. We never had anything\nreally off the wall. He would take it. painting and things like that. Anyway, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5407.0,5437.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nso here I am.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5437.0,5439.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: What about your daughter? Where is she and your grandson Benjamin?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5439.0,5444.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: She's in Stone Mountain [Georgia]. Living in Stone Mountain. She's a\ndesktop publisher. People come to her with manuscripts for books, and she's\ngotten three or four . She’s done three or four books for them, writers.\nBenjamin [Yorker] is at University of Virginia as an architectural student.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5444.0,5466.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: He’s following ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5466.0,5467.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nin your tracks, your artistic track.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5467.0,5469.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: My sister died in 1987. I’ve also been very involved in the art history,\nI mean, the art colony in north Georgia in the arts center.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5469.0,5478.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Do you go up there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5478.0,5480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I'm a resident. That would make me think of my sister. She had a house\nup there. Naturally, when she was ill, I used to go up and visit her. I didn’t\nwant to be her guest and be a burden. I applied for a scholarship ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5480.0,5496.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nor a fellowship. I was accepted, but she died before I got there. I spent that\ntime in the area she loved. I kept going back and stayed her house after she\ndied. Her son said I could stay in the house anytime I wanted to. I did a series\nof paintings around the mountains that she loved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5496.0,5516.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Was she an artist too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5516.0,5518.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: No, my sister wasn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5518.0,5520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Tell me about some of your work now. 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Part of that was the mountains in north Georgia in my sister's name.\nBefore that, the beaches of Cape Cod. Recently, I was commissioned to do some\nmurals for the new Cobb Galleria Centre. I did a series of murals area. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5531.0,5556.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWhen the two people who were assigned to get their offer for the building, they\ncame to my studio. I had never seen them before. They said, they had seen and\nloved my work. He said if you were asked to do these murals, what would you do?\nI said, I know exactly what I would do. 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Do you feel ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5614.0,5616.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nany link to the Jewish community or your roots or a cultural identity that you\nfeel you want to pass on to see your grandson?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5616.0,5627.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: One of the things I did in this book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5627.0,5631.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: The Arts in Georgia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5631.0,5633.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Yes. Let’s stop this and find the page. . It’s under the section called\nEthnic Factors in the Arts in Georgia. Nobody asked for this section. But the part ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5633.0,5646.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nthat I find, or glad I did, was very important, would be, “An examination of the\nboard of directors of five leading art organizations in Atlanta reveal that\nalthough the estimated Jewish population of the city is 15,500, are less than 2\npercent of the total population of metropolitan Atlanta, which is 1,230,000, the\npercentage of Jews serving as trustees is 19 percent. 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You can see through three of them because\nthey are parallel. They reflect from one to the other. The other one, which is a\nright angle, is a yet a fourth panel. The season from the Bible. There's a time\nfor everything. Everything has a season or something. It’s in Hebrew.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5736.0,5761.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/475","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: That’s very original. Was that your art represented or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5761.0,5766.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/476","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ndid they put that on? Did you choose that passage to go with your art?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5766.0,5772.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/477","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I worked with a one of the artists. . Anyway, she and I discussed it.\nShe did some work on the inside. We decided to use all of that as our theme. 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That and the mural I just completed. .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5797.0,5801.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/483","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Now what are you working on? What are some of the pieces you are working on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5801.0,5809.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/484","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I've just finished a major series of humongous, really huge, murals that\nare at the convention center [Georgia World Congress Center]. I'm working on\nfinal birdhouse for the habitat center. Then I think after that, I probably ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5809.0,5827.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nneed to get some refreshing, some stimulating, some experience to trigger my\nnext step. I never stop, but I think. I've got some ideas, but I think I need\nmore time to do for it. Go somewhere in the mountains or somewhere. One thing\nleads to another.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5827.0,5849.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: And you've traveled a lot. On your resume, it shows you've studied a lot abroad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5849.0,5856.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: Yes. 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I do, I\nlove to travel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5857.0,5872.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Are there any particular artists or cultures that have influenced your work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5872.0,5877.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I'm studying a lot of art. I’m always going into the museums and\ngalleries wherever I am, and of course, seeing some ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5877.0,5887.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nmarvelous places, like in Thailand. That crazy, wonderful architecture. Or in\nBarcelona . I mean, I'm always influenced. Everywhere I go, I’m influenced by\neverything. I remember Benny Abrams, painter and a good friend said, “Remember,\nwe’re always working 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Artists are always\nworking.” That’s true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5887.0,5915.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Do you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5915.0,5917.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nhave set hours when you go to your studio? Do you do it diligently every day at\nthe same time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5917.0,5923.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I just do it, as it turns out. I do manage to get up usually around 7\no’clock, 7:30. I’m usually there by 10 o’clock. I work until I'm tired, which is\nusually 2:30, 3 o’clock. Any more than that, I become destructive. I mess it up.\nI don’t set out to do it. I just do it. When I don't do it, I'm not as happy as\nwhen I’m doing it. It's a compulsion. 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Sketch books and crayons\nand stuff. Sometimes I don't get a chance to do things like that. If you’re\ngoing away for the weekend to Washington. Yes, I always do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5951.0,5965.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/498","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: Do you sketch people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5965.0,5967.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/499","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: I've done a lot of people. Particularly at the beach, I just love to\nsketch them all over the sand and funny little chairs and all that stuff. 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He was born to do that. I don't think we’ve\never gone sketching together, but his work as an architect is most interesting.\nHe's very creative. I don't know that we've actually done it together. I've\ntaken him on some knocked out trips. Better than any trips I've never had\ngrowing up. I took Benjamin to Africa, on an animal photography ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5982.0,6007.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nsafari. We just had a wonderful time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=6007.0,6010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: FISHER: We jotted more than ever because we were with some children and\ngrandchildren. Then, I took him, best of all, was a trip to Greece because he\nwas just getting ready to enter that fall in the School of Architecture. I mean,\nhow can you be an architect . We got there. We went to Athens and went to sleep\nthat night. Totally exhausted. 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He said, “Grandmother, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=6037.0,6067.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/506","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nlife will never be the same.” I knew . Then we went to the National Gallery in\nAthens, a museum. We saw an incredible bronze sculptor that is perfect. I didn’t\nthink I would ever get him out of there. In fact, he wrote his interim thesis to\ncollege based on that and the concept of perfection. 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To see that your grandson loved art as much as you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=6104.0,6112.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/509","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FISHER: That's right. He does. He is just a natural.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=6112.0,6117.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/transcript/72590/annotation/510","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"YOUNG: I've really enjoyed talking with you. I appreciate you sharing your\nmemories with us. Thank you very much. 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In 1905, it was reorganized as the “Standard Club” and moved into the former mansion of William C. Sanders near the site of Center Parc Credit Union Stadium (formerly Turner Field). In the late 1920s the club moved to Ponce de Leon Avenue in Midtown Atlanta. Later, the club moved to what is now the Lenox Park business park and was located there until 1983. 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The club was visited by Eleanor Roosevelt, Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, mayors Ivan Allen and William Berry Hartsfield, senators Herman Talmadge and Richard Russell, and Governor Carl Sanders.  Fire destroyed the Mayfair Club on December 4, 1964.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=2096.0,2098.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/annotation_set/1639/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Progressive Club was a Jewish social organization in Atlanta, Georgia. It was established in 1913 by Russian Jews who felt unwelcome at the Standard Club, where German Jews were predominant. At first the club was located in a rented house until a new club was built on Pryor Street including a swimming pool and a gym. In 1940 the club opened a larger facility at 1050 Techwood Drive in Midtown with three swimming pools, tennis, and softball. In 1976 the club moved north to 1160 Moore’s Mill Road near Interstate 75. The property was eventually sold to the YMCA as the club faced financial challenges. The Carl E. 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She recalled different stories he covered, including watching the Scopes Trial, writing on the Leo Frank Case, and creating political cartoons. Although her father loved journalism deeply, the lack of balance of work-life, low pay, and being surrounded by coworkers suffering from alcohol abuse ultimately pushed him to another career path. He began working as a salesman for Selig Chemical, a company selling cleaning supplies led by Simon Selig. After some time, and seeing Selig's success, her father went to Simon to ask for business advice to begin his own company. Carlyn remembers her father as proudly patriotic, devoted to Jewish causes, and highly intelligent. 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She was involved in the art show for over ten years before she moved from Atlanta.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3185.0,4381.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/640","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How did you develop your art as an artist when you came back to Atlanta?","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3185.0,4381.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/641","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ben Massell","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Subjects"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Piedmont Park","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Subjects"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carolyn Becknyl","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Subjects"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Commerce Club","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Subjects"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mayor Hartsfield","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Subjects"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3185.0,4381.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/642","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Art Shows","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=3185.0,4381.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/643","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From Visual Art to Writing and Filmmaking ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4381.0,4949.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/644","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because the art scene was still developing in the 50s and 60s, there was very little coverage on the visual arts. She began a quarterly publication called The Abstract, for which she was an editor. In 1962, Atlanta magazine had begun, and she pitched a monthly column on art in Atlanta. As the only art editor for the magazine, Carlyn could cover a wide range of topics. As a fellow artist, she was able to connect with interviewees personally. She lived in Chicago for about ten years before returning and writing for The Atlanta Times and was approached to create documentaries. She made five or six documentaries, one of which won an Emmy. She was divorced from Ted and moved to New York in 1972.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4381.0,4949.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How did you move from painting to writing and filmmaking?","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4381.0,4949.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Abstract","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Subjects"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta Magazine","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Subjects"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4381.0,4949.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/647","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Copywriting","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Editing","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Filmmaking","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Keywords"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4381.0,4949.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/648","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marriage to Morris B. 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They stayed together for years until their divorce in 1987.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4949.0,5115.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/650","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not in a long time. I moved to New York again and married Morris B. Abrams.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=4949.0,5115.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Morris B. 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She immediately got a studio and easily fell back into the connected social life she had before leaving. Her daughter and grandson live close, in Stone Mountain, and they’ve both taken after her love of the arts. Carlyn continued to write, paint, and try new things throughout the rest of her life. She did public pieces for the Jewish Community Center, parks, and the Georgia World Congress Center.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5115.0,6113.46286"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, I did. As a matter of fact, I moved back before 1987. I moved back in 1986 . I immediately got a studio. Was immediately trying to get, as much as I could, involved in the arts, visiting, meeting artists, and going to galleries, which was a treat.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5115.0,6113.46286"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060/index/86105/annotation/656","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marcus Jewish Community Center of Atlanta","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Subjects"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgia World Congress Center","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Subjects"]}}],"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/136480/file/253060#t=5115.0,6113.46286"}]}]}]}