{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/dz02z1356m/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Hirsch, Celia Scheer"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1998-03-23 (creation)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source"]},"value":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum","Esther and Herbert Taylor Oral History Collection","Savannah Jewish Archives"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCelia Scheer Hirsch was interviewed by C. Robert Friedman on March 23, 1998 in Savannah, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e (general)","\u003cp\u003eCelia Scheer was born on January 2nd, 1918 at home in Savannah, Georgia to William Scheer and Dora Gaspin. As a young member of the Workman’s Circle that her father organized, Celia traveled as a youth to the organization conferences. After graduating from Savannah High School before the beginning of World War II, Celia planned to attend college, but instead married David Hirsch (1916-2009). Together they opened and operated the Original Steak House on Victory Drive in Savannah, Georgia for 25 years. Later in life, she worked at the Mickey’s Beverage. She died in her home in Savannah, Georgia in 2008 at the age of 90.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eCelia begins the interview with the description of her family, who lived on a racially diverse street, and how the oldest of the children were born in the home. Through growing up in Savannah, Celia was involved in the Workman’s Circle, speaking at a conference in Alabama when she was 13. She tells that during her childhood there were about 50 families that were a part of the Circle, whose children all went to the same school, as well as Savannah High School. However, when she had children, her kids went to the Hebrew School in the area, which replaced the Workman's Circle shool\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eShe continues in describing the school she went to when she learned Yiddish, although she began to learn Hebrew but was embarrassed when she could not quite understand it. Celia talks about how her family was born all over, from Russia to New York and then her youngest brother being the first to be born in a hospital in Savannah.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe interview changes to Celia talking about the general Jewish community. Those families who were a part of the Workman’s Circle stayed together, as most of their children were the same ages as well. As she grew up, Celia describes her plans to wait to get married after she finished high school, but her and David got married a year later. She discusses how her wages at the grocery store changed before and after she was married. As Celia comments on her wages and how she was unable to bring her grocery store wages home as she paid for food for her household, she describes how that her father changed the role of the Workman’s Circle, forming a credit union. The interview then jumps around her young adult years, with Celia describing the cigarettes she remembered smoking as a 16 year old, her planning the births of her children, and having to change clothes after school because she only had one nice dress.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eShe then goes on to tell of the activities of the Jewish Educational Alliance, which her siblings participated in, as it was the center of the Jewish community. Celia does mention that she did not know those families who were not part of the Workman’s Circle very well, as her family did not go to temple, as they identified as a proud Jewish family, but not a religious family with only one of her siblings being religious in adulthood.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eCelia continues that the community she knew in Savannah through the mercantile connections of her father. She tells that when her father died in the 50’s he contributed to the Alliance including books, but her mother was more of a ‘sums’ homebody. Celia describes her mother seasonal work at Christmas in Mr. Center’s store, which also served as a location for a Workman’s Circle school, although the Center family was not a part of the Circle.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eCelia finishes the interview by explaining her relationships with the non-Jewish community, and how she never got along with the Gentile groups which she felt were anti-Semitic, but felt a sense of cohesive respect with the African American community.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/27965"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Hirsch, Celia Scheer, 1918-2008 (personal name)","Workman's Circle (corporate name)","Savannah, Georgia (geographic term)","Jewish Educational Alliance (corporate name)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCelia Scheer Hirsch was interviewed by C. Robert Friedman on March 23, 1998 in Savannah, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eCelia Scheer was born on January 2nd, 1918 at home in Savannah, Georgia to William Scheer and Dora Gaspin. As a young member of the Workman’s Circle that her father organized, Celia traveled as a youth to the organization conferences. After graduating from Savannah High School before the beginning of World War II, Celia planned to attend college, but instead married David Hirsch (1916-2009). Together they opened and operated the Original Steak House on Victory Drive in Savannah, Georgia for 25 years. Later in life, she worked at the Mickey’s Beverage. She died in her home in Savannah, Georgia in 2008 at the age of 90.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eCelia begins the interview with the description of her family, who lived on a racially diverse street, and how the oldest of the children were born in the home. Through growing up in Savannah, Celia was involved in the Workman’s Circle, speaking at a conference in Alabama when she was 13. She tells that during her childhood there were about 50 families that were a part of the Circle, whose children all went to the same school, as well as Savannah High School. However, when she had children, her kids went to the Hebrew School in the area, which replaced the Workman's Circle shool\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eShe continues in describing the school she went to when she learned Yiddish, although she began to learn Hebrew but was embarrassed when she could not quite understand it. Celia talks about how her family was born all over, from Russia to New York and then her youngest brother being the first to be born in a hospital in Savannah.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe interview changes to Celia talking about the general Jewish community. Those families who were a part of the Workman’s Circle stayed together, as most of their children were the same ages as well. As she grew up, Celia describes her plans to wait to get married after she finished high school, but her and David got married a year later. She discusses how her wages at the grocery store changed before and after she was married. As Celia comments on her wages and how she was unable to bring her grocery store wages home as she paid for food for her household, she describes how that her father changed the role of the Workman’s Circle, forming a credit union. The interview then jumps around her young adult years, with Celia describing the cigarettes she remembered smoking as a 16 year old, her planning the births of her children, and having to change clothes after school because she only had one nice dress.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eShe then goes on to tell of the activities of the Jewish Educational Alliance, which her siblings participated in, as it was the center of the Jewish community. Celia does mention that she did not know those families who were not part of the Workman’s Circle very well, as her family did not go to temple, as they identified as a proud Jewish family, but not a religious family with only one of her siblings being religious in adulthood.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eCelia continues that the community she knew in Savannah through the mercantile connections of her father. She tells that when her father died in the 50’s he contributed to the Alliance including books, but her mother was more of a ‘sums’ homebody. Celia describes her mother seasonal work at Christmas in Mr. Center’s store, which also served as a location for a Workman’s Circle school, although the Center family was not a part of the Circle.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eCelia finishes the interview by explaining her relationships with the non-Jewish community, and how she never got along with the Gentile groups which she felt were anti-Semitic, but felt a sense of cohesive respect with the African American community.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/097/484/small/Hirsch__Celia.jpg?1619289436","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Hirsch_Celia.mp3"]},"duration":1639.34041,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/097/484/small/Hirsch__Celia.jpg?1619289436","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-thebreman.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/097/484/original/Hirsch_Celia.mp3?1611850323","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mp3","duration":1639.34041,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Celia Hirsch [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"FRIEDMAN: Today is the 23rd of March, Monday, and we are in the process of\nrecording Celia Scheer Hirsch. Ceil, can you tell us when you were born, and where?\n\nHIRSCH: I was born January the 2nd, 1918, at home, I presume. In those days they\ndidn't go to a hospital, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so I couldn't--\n\nFRIEDMAN: Is that true? I mean, are you sure of that?\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah. Yeah. In fact, my mother says that, I don't if you remember Mr. Garwitz?\n\nFRIEDMAN: Yes.\n\nHIRSCH: He was supposed to have helped in the delivery.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Is that right?\n\nHIRSCH: Um, hm.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Well, since we know each other a little bit, I wondered, you know what\nI was told by mother--\n\nHIRSCH: What?\n\nFRIEDMAN: That you were born behind the store. Is that where you all lived?\n\nHIRSCH: Probably. Yeah.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Is that where you all lived?\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It had to be at home. Sure.\n\nFRIEDMAN: And where was the store?\n\nHIRSCH: On Gaston Street.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Gaston and?\n\nHIRSCH: Gaston- had to be Gaston and West Broad, somewhere near there, as far as\nI can recollect.\n\nFRIEDMAN: So he moved his store later?\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah.\n\nFRIEDMAN: To Perry Lane?\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Okay. I remember Mother saying that you had been born behind the\nstore. I didn't realize that that was home.\n\nHIRSCH: That was home.\n\nFRIEDMAN: So you grew up in Savannah?\n\nHIRSCH: Grew up in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Savannah - never went anywhere until I was about 13 years old\nand I was elected a delegate to go to a Workman's Circle convention.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Where was that?\n\nHIRSCH: In Birmingham, Alabama. That was my first time ever leaving Savannah.\nAnd that was a nerve-wracking experience. I had to get up in front of people and\nmake a speech and I was never good at that. That's about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all I can remember\nabout that trip.\n\nFRIEDMAN: When you spoke in Birmingham at this convention, did you speak in\nYiddish or in English?\n\nHIRSCH: No. This was in English. This was the younger children's group. I spoke\nin English.\n\nFRIEDMAN: And what was the language you all used at home?\n\nHIRSCH: We used a little of both, Jewish and English. My parents spoke Jewish\nmost of the time when they spoke to us, and sometimes, well, we'd answer in\nEnglish but once in a while ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we would answer in Jewish, cause we did go to Jewish school.\n\nFRIEDMAN: You did?\n\nHIRSCH: Oh, yeah, all of us went to Jewish School but, unfortunately, I don't,\nit's been such a long time ago I don't remember how to read or write it. But I\nlove the language, love the language.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Well, when you say you went to Jewish School, that means that there\nwas a Jewish or Yiddish school in Savannah?\n\nHIRSCH: There was a Yiddish in, from the Workman's Circle. Is the one who\nhandled it. In fact, they had a teacher, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mr. Wiseborn, if I remember correctly\nhis name.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Were there many people affiliated with the Workman's Circle?\n\nHIRSCH: Well, in those days I wouldn't say a whole lot. Maybe, maybe 50.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Fifty families?\n\nHIRSCH: Fifty families, maybe, I'm not even sure of that. And then little by\nlittle, it died off and a lot of them just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dropped out and, eventually, it was\ndissolved. Workman's Circle was dissolved.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Of those families-- who were the families that perhaps you knew best\nor your parents?\n\nHIRSCH: Well, the Hirsch family, the Applebaum family, the Dunns, the Gerbers,\nMr. Izzard who was not married. Who else? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mr. Fineblum who also was not married.\nThe Grablows. Mr. and Mrs. Oast. And Mr. and Mrs. Udinsky. That's right.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Did they, they were your parents age so did they all have children\nabout your age?\n\nHIRSCH: Most of them, sure.\n\nFRIEDMAN: There were a number of them. So ya'll went to school together?\n\nHIRSCH: Went to school. I went to school with ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ethyl Richman and Marsha Udinsky.\nI lived on Bolton Street, Marsha lived on Park Avenue so she used to meet me at\nmy house and we used to walk, there was no such thing as riding then, we walked\nto where Ethyl Richman lived and she lived near the old Alliance, I think it was\nCharlton Street? And then we used to walk to school together and that was rain\nor shine.\n\nFRIEDMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What school was that?\n\nHIRSCH: Junior high school. We went all the way through junior and high school together.\n\nFRIEDMAN: What was the name of that school? Do you remember?\n\nHIRSCH: Savannah High.\n\nFRIEDMAN: It was called Savannah High?\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah. And that was on where, Oglethorpe? Liberty and Oglethorpe?\n\nFRIEDMAN: Yeah.\n\nHIRSCH: In fact, it's still there. And instead of, when I was in high school, I\ndecided I was going to take a general course because I thought I was going to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"college. But I got married instead a year later.\n\nFRIEDMAN: What kind of activities were held at the Workman's Circle, do you remember?\n\nHIRSCH: Well, we, the children, used to put on plays and they used to have\nconcerts several times a year that were held mostly at the Alliance. We used to\nhave a pretty big ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"attendance.\n\nFRIEDMAN: You all went to, you all went to Yiddish School in the afternoon?\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah. After school.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Did you ever go to Hebrew School?\n\nHIRSCH: I never did.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Did anyone in your family ever go?\n\nHIRSCH: My children. All three of my boys went to Hebrew School and they were\nall three bar mitzvahed. But after the bar mitzvah they did not want to continue.\n\nFRIEDMAN: What about your brothers - did they go to Hebrew School?\n\nHIRSCH: Morris was, I don't remember any of them being bar ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mitzvahed. I don't\nthink so.\n\nFRIEDMAN: But they all went to the Workman's Circle shul?\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah. I don't ever remember my father setting foot in shul. He used to\nstand outside.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Yes. Why would he do that?\n\nHIRSCH: Talking to his friends.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Well, if he didn't go to shul, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and yet, although he didn't go to shul\nand I know you say your mother didn't either, would you consider your home\nhaving been Jewish?\n\nHIRSCH: Yes. Because when the holidays came around, everything was like it was\nsupposed to be. The only thing, then, she didn't keep a kosher house.\n\nFRIEDMAN: How many brothers and sisters did you have?\n\nHIRSCH: Six. There were seven of us altogether. Course she had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"twins that died,\nthey were the firstborn. That was before--\n\nFRIEDMAN: In Europe?\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah. As far as I can remember, because I didn't remember them being\nother than being told. Of course, Morris was born in Europe, too.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Yeah.\n\nHIRSCH: Bertha was born in New York. The rest of us were born here. I think\nSammy was the only one born in a hospital.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Is that right?\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were all grown. In fact, I was getting ready to get married\nwhen she found out she was pregnant. She was so embarrassed and so ashamed, she\nwouldn't even walk out in the street. We had to fuss at her all the time to get\nout. But she had a terrible pregnancy.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Of course, her oldest daughter was already pregnant and already had a\nchild, during the course of her pregnancy.\n\nHIRSCH: Bertha, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sure. Bertha had Pat.\n\nFRIEDMAN: I'm older than Pat.\n\nHIRSCH: That's right. She had Pat just before I was married. That's right.\nYou're right. She did. Yeah she did.\n\nFRIEDMAN: But when you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"say you had school, you did these performances as\nchildren, were they in Yiddish or English?\n\nHIRSCH: Some of it was in Jewish, some in English.\n\nFRIEDMAN: You say you went to school in the afternoon - how long did you stay in\nschool then and what did you, what kind of things did you learn? Do you remember that?\n\nHIRSCH: I don't know. Gosh, it's been so long, every phase of, there were a lot\nof words that had a lot of Hebrew in it, but like I say, it's been so very long\nago and I'm 80 years old now and I just don't remember. Don't remember. You know\nwhen you don't keep up with these things, you do forget.\n\nFRIEDMAN: But you do remember the teacher ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and you remember being in class--\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah, I remember the teacher, that's right.\n\nFRIEDMAN: And the classes - what did you all read when you typically went to class?\n\nHIRSCH: Hebrew.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Hebrew or Yiddish?\n\nHIRSCH: Hebrew, it was a mixture of Jewish and Hebrew.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Is that right?\n\nHIRSCH: Some of the words were Hebrew and some were, most of it was Jewish.\n\nFRIEDMAN: By the time I went to the Workman's Circle, we didn't do any Hebrew.\nWe did only Yiddish.\n\nHIRSCH: Everything was Jewish?\n\nFRIEDMAN: Everything was Yiddish.\n\nHIRSCH: Even the alphabet, some of the alphabet was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something like Hebrew--\n\nFRIEDMAN: It used the same characters.\n\nHIRSCH: But yet, when I went to that Hebrew class, it was like something I had\nnever heard before. I was too embarrassed to go back.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Oh why?\n\nHIRSCH: I felt so stupid. By the time I learned one phrase, he'd start on\nanother one, I forgot the first phrase.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Let's talk a little bit about Savannah ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as you were growing up - the\nJewish community was a relatively smaller community at that time and probably a\nlot of people knew each other.\n\nHIRSCH: Well, we stuck to those from the Workman's Circle mainly, because Papa\nin those days used to play pinochle. So who'd he play with? He used to play with\nSam Hirsch, my father-in-law, Sam Hirsch, who else did he, Mr. Applebaum and Mr.\nIzzard, I believe, used to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"play, too. That was their recreation. When Sundays\ncame around, that's one day that the family all ate together. They did do that.\nThe big thing was to put all the family in a car and take a ride to Isle of Hope\nand buy us all ice cream. That was a big treat. You know, for us.\n\nFRIEDMAN: What years are we talking about now? Is this about in the 20's\n\nHIRSCH: Well, I was born in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"'18, so you've got to figure it was in the late 20's\nand early 30's. As the kids got older, they didn't want to go any more, each\nwanted to go his own way. I think I was the first one in the family to graduate\nhigh school. Morris was a terror. He went almost all the way through ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and Izzy\ndropped out, too, to go to work. Help support the family. Then mother, I don't\nthink she graduated high school. Gert and Sam did. But the three of us were the\nonly ones out of eight, out of seven children.\n\nFRIEDMAN: When you say you stuck with the Workman's Circle families and their\nchildren and all--\n\nHIRSCH: Well, because we were all, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=720.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we had all of those were in the same, how\nshall I put it -- financial straits. All of us were in the same - so naturally\nthey all stuck together. For recreation at night, especially in the summertime,\nthey used to go sit in front of Nat Daubs' store and shoot the bull.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Where was that at?\n\nHIRSCH: That was on York and West Broad. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=750.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was, I mean, just about every\nnight except when it rained. He used to play pinochle with them once in a while,\ntoo, when they played in his house, 'cause Eva used to stay downstairs and watch\nthe place and he would play pinochle with them. His youngsters, I remember, when\nwe were in our teens, Fanny, Fanny Applebaum was my age so all of us girls,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=780.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marsha Udinsky, Fanny, Pike, I don't think she did, not at that time, but a few\nothers, we used to get a nickel for spending money. When we were getting a\nlittle older, we used to go to the store and buy five or ten cigarettes and hide\nin our bedroom and smoke the hell out of them. Big deal.\n\nFRIEDMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And after you finished high school - you were married?\n\nHIRSCH: No, I waited a year. He wanted to give me a ring and I said, \"No, let's\nwait a while.\" I worked. I went to work, but a year later we did get married. I\nworked for Abe Samuels in his grocery store. I recall, we used to go to work at\n8:00 o'clock in the morning and get off about 7:00 o'clock at night. Saturday it\nwas about 11:00-12:00 o'clock at night. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=840.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I made a big $12 a week. I started off\nwith $7. When I got married, he gave me $12. And what did I do? I used to buy\ngroceries for the $12. I never took any money home. Oh, gracious. We used to\nborrow from Peter to pay Paul. But strangely enough we had good credit. He could\ngo to the Morris Plan, which was THE place in those days, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and get money any time.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Did the Workman's Circle at that point have loans like they do now?\n\nHIRSCH: No, this was much later. I think Papa came up with the idea of forming a\ncredit union so that the members who were always needing money could borrow and\nit mushroomed, it really did, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the idea got so popular and they sold so many\nshares, 'til it really went well. As long as Hymie Hoffman had a big say in it.\nBut he used to bend the rules a little bit, you know, when someone needed money.\nBut when Philip took over, he went strictly by the book.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Well, it's a big credit union now, it's big, very, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very well\nestablished, well record-\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah. What else?\n\nFRIEDMAN: Did you ever leave Savannah to go to work? You never went to New York\nto go to work?\n\nHIRSCH: I was 13 years old at that time and you know, I had bad skin. My Tante\nLeesy used to come to town all the time, so she ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said she thought she could take\nme to a doctor that might be able to help me. So my parents let me go. It didn't\nhelp me, but I spent a year there and I went to school there.\n\nFRIEDMAN: What year was that, do you know?\n\nHIRSCH: '33. After about a year I got a letter from Dave, I didn't even know he\nremembered me, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and he said in the letter he said \"I would like to have the first\ndate with you when you come home.\"\n\nFRIEDMAN: Is that right?\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah, and he said, \"I'll send the stamp in this envelope to make sure\nthat I get an answer from you.\" He did. Then we started going out from that\ntime. We went together for three years.\n\nFRIEDMAN: So you all were young, knew each other a long time.\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah. Um, hm. I was only 19 when we got married, he was only 21. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But\nbelieve it or not, we planned our family. We didn't just go helter skelter. It\nwas almost four years before we had Alvin, and then we waited exactly three\nyears and nine months to have Carl and Marvin was not quite three years\ndifference. So I had them planned quite ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well.\n\nFRIEDMAN: What were the big social things you did as a teenager, besides smoking?\n\nHIRSCH: Nothing.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Nothing?\n\nHIRSCH: I can't remember. I remember I had so few clothes. The few that I had my\nmother used to make. All three of us, in fact. So when I got home from school I\nused to have to take the dress that I had worn to school and change it into\nsomething else. Then I used to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"walk to the store and that was almost every day,\nexcept when Mama had a lot of housework and I just couldn't stand to see her do\nhousework because that was a big house. I used to try to help her whenever I could.\n\nFRIEDMAN: That's after, you must have moved from behind the store to the house\non Bolton Street?\n\nHIRSCH: Oh, yeah. We went to, from Gaston Street we went to Oglethorpe Avenue,\nthe corner of Oglethorpe and West Broad. In fact, there was an apartment house\nthere and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we lived in one of those apartments. We lived there for a long time.\nIn fact, I used to babysit with the Dobb children when they were younger.\n\nFRIEDMAN: So when did they move to Bolton Street? That must have been\nconsiderably later.\n\nHIRSCH: Gert was born on Bolton Street so it had to be a long time.\n\nFRIEDMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From what I gather then, they were very poor, but somehow after the\nDepression, they started earning enough money so that they could actually move and--\n\nHIRSCH: During the war, there used to be a fruit stand right next to Papa's shoe\nshop, if you recall?\n\nFRIEDMAN: I recall the barber shop.\n\nHIRSCH: No, the barber shop was a little further down. Anyway, the owner of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the\nfruit stand died and Papa and Alex decided that they gonna take that store over\nand enlarge and sell new shoes along with shoe repair. He did nicely with that.\nBut, he was--\n\nFRIEDMAN: Ceil, the Alliance, the Jewish Educational Alliance, was for many\npeople, I believe, the center of the Jewish community in terms of activities.\n\nHIRSCH: It was, it was.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Did you all participate at ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all?\n\nHIRSCH: You know I have vague memories of that for some reason or other. I know\nwe did go.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Well, I know, for example, Izzy played basketball there 'cause I saw pictures.\n\nHIRSCH: Yep.\n\nFRIEDMAN: That's Isadore Scheer.\n\nHIRSCH: Morris went, too. I can't remember, I'm sure we did. 'Cause that was\nreally the place to go.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Of course, you spent a lot of time at Workman's Circle in the\nafternoons and then there was Sunday with family--\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah, but this was after, after ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Workman's Circle School. We had\nalready grown up.\n\nFRIEDMAN: How long did you go to the Workman's Circle School?\n\nHIRSCH: Oh, gosh, I know it had to be at least three years, if not longer. I'm\nnot even sure.\n\nFRIEDMAN: You don't remember when you started?\n\nHIRSCH: No.\n\nFRIEDMAN: All right, so you spent a lot of time within the small community of\nthe Workman's Circle, what about the rest of the Jewish community? What was that\nlike? Where were they? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Who are they?\n\nHIRSCH: I really don't know.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Well, for example, there was a temple Mickve Israel was established\nand there was a--\n\nHIRSCH: Yeah, but we didn't, we didn't go, we didn't go there. In fact, I don't\neven recall that we belonged to a synagogue. I really don't. It's only since we\nmarried that we all belong.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Because your father really did not believe in the synagogue?\n\nHIRSCH: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No.\n\nFRIEDMAN: That was part, was that not part of the philosophy of the Workman's Circle?\n\nHIRSCH: I wouldn't say that.\n\nFRIEDMAN: No?\n\nHIRSCH: I wouldn't say that, because there were a lot of members that were\nmembers of the synagogue. It's just, he just, let's put it this way - we knew we\nwere Jewish and we loved it, I'm proud to be a Jew. But we just were not from a\nreligious family. The only reason, the only one that's religious now is Gert.\n\nFRIEDMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's true.\n\nHIRSCH: She goes every Saturday because of her husband.\n\nFRIEDMAN: And her grandchildren.\n\nHIRSCH: And her grandchildren. Yeah. They call her up and remind her that we're\ngoing today. So she does go pretty much every Saturday.\n\nFRIEDMAN: And yet, as we spoke earlier, when my grandfather, your father, died,\nhe was recognized within the community ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1350.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as a significant contributor to thinking\nand activities and the like.\n\nHIRSCH: In fact, he had a lot of wonderful, wonderful books which would probably\nbe worth a lot of money today and he gave it to the Alliance, I believe.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Oh, I'm very pleased to hear that.\n\nHIRSCH: Either the Alliance or synagogue, but I think it was the Alliance. But\nhe really had some wonderful books. When he came to this country he used to have\nsomeone ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"come to the store to teach him how to write English. Everything he\nlearned, he learned because he was motivated to learn. Mama was just the\nopposite. Mama, all she could do was write her name and she could add and\nsubtract. You couldn't beat her there.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Did she ever work? Did she ever work?\n\nHIRSCH: At home.\n\nFRIEDMAN: Did she ever work in a store?\n\nHIRSCH: Only on, like Christmas, she used to come then. There wasn't much she\ncould do 'cause after all it was just a repair shop. 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Got a frog in my throat.\n\nFRIEDMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29673/file/97484/transcript/22043/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the Workman's Circle shul was when I knew it was above the Center\nstore on Perry Lane.\n\nHIRSCH: Up over the dry goods store of Mr. and Mrs. Center. Yep. In fact, we all\ngrew up together. Course Leo was older than we were and Fanny. I think, is older\nthan we are. 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