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He talks about the various jobs he held in the Atlanta area—ranging from work at a table factory to owning a grocery store—as he tried to get his family settled and financially stable. In between stories of work, Rubin also discusses trying to navigate life in the United States from learning the language to becoming aware of the racism highly prevalent in the South through the 60s to today.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eSara joins her husband during the interview to discuss their instrumental roles in establishing the Holocaust memorial in Greenwood cemetery. The couple explains how they came to the idea of making such a memorial and how they went about its creation. They highlight the importance of community sourcing materials and funding for the memorial.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28360"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Rubin Pichulik (personal name)","Sara Pichulik (personal name)","Louis 'Ludovic' Pichulik (personal name)","Jennette Pichulik (personal name)","Hanna Esther 'Ada' Pichulik (personal name)","Charlie 'Chaskiel' Pichulik (personal name)","Lena Pichulik (personal name)","Harold Siegel (personal name)","Isaac Wise (personal name)","Sam Wise (personal name)","Dr. Leon Rosen (personal name)","Max Borestein (personal name)","Regina Borestein (personal name)","Abe Besser (personal name)","Benjamin Hirsch (personal name)","Lola Borkowska Lansky (personal name)","Marla Gostron (personal name)","Carl Javinsky (personal name)","Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS) (corporate name)","Montag Brothers Paper Company (corporate name)","Greenwood Cemetery (corporate name)","Siegel's Delicatessen (corporate name)","Gate City Table Company (corporate name)","Ahavath Achim Synagogue (corporate name)","Boulevard Drive Supermarket (corporate name)","Jackson Street Market (corporate name)","Eternal Life-Hemshech (corporate name)","Jewish Federation of Greater Atlanta (corporate name)","Anapa, Russia (geographic term)","Krashodar Krai, Russia (geographic term)","Warsaw, Poland (geographic term)","Chicago, Illinois (geographic term)","New Orleans, Louisiana (geographic term)","Atlanta, Georgia (geographic term)","Washington Street (geographic term)","Russia (geographic term)","Germany (geographic term)","Poland (geographic term)","United States of America (geographic term)","Displaced Persons Camp (DP Camp) (topical term)","World War II (topical term)","Anti-Semitism (topical term)","Segregation (topical term)","Discrimination (topical term)","Holocaust Survivors (topical term)","Memorial for the Six Million (topical term)","Real Estate Business (topical term)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eRubin and Sara Pichulik were interviewed by Saba Silverman on January 11, 2001 in Altanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eRubin discusses his family’s journey from the end of the Holocaust in Russia to their immigration to the United States. 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I think we'll start first with: where were\nyou when the war ended?\n\nR. PICHULIK: When the war ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ended, I was in Anapa in Russia. Anapa in Krasnodar\nKrai. Can you put down this? Russia.\n\nSILVERMAN: In Russia.\n\nR. PICHULIK: Anapa, the city of Anapa. By the way, my son Louis was born in this\ncity in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1945.\n\nSILVERMAN: Okay. Were you and Sara split during the war, or were you together?\n\nR. PICHULIK: We were together during the war.\n\nSILVERMAN: You were together the whole time?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Yea.\n\nSILVERMAN: Were you in a DP camp?\n\nR. PICHULIK: . . .\n\nSILVERMAN: Where was that?\n\nR. PICHULIK: It was in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"different DP camps . . .\n\nSILVERMAN: In Russia?\n\nR. PICHULIK: You talk about--ah! You mean the Russian DP camp?\n\nSILVERMAN: Yea. When you were liberated, what camp?\n\nR. PICHULIK: That was a concentration camp.\n\nSILVERMAN: Right, but after liberation, were you in a Displaced Persons camp?\n\nR. PICHULIK: In Germany?\n\nSILVERMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yea.\n\nR. PICHULIK: Yea.\n\nSILVERMAN: You were. And where was that?\n\nR. PICHULIK: . . .\n\nSILVERMAN: . . . Okay. Who were some people that were with you? Anybody else in\nyour family, besides Sara, that were with you when you were liberated?\n\nR. PICHULIK: No. When I was liberated--my son Louis was with me.\n\nSILVERMAN: But Louis was born--how long after ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the war was over was Louis born?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Louis was born November 16, and the war was ended in May.\n\nSILVERMAN: Of what year?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Of '45.\n\nSILVERMAN: What did you want to do? Did you have any idea what you wanted to do\nafter the war was over?\n\nR. PICHULIK: After the war, yea. We had a hard ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time. We had a hard time with the\nlanguage. We had a hard time with going alone even in town. It was a hard time.\n\nSILVERMAN: Did you come straight from there to Atlanta?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Yea.\n\nSILVERMAN: Straight from Europe, from Germany?\n\nR. PICHULIK: We came to New Orleans and from New Orleans we came to Atlanta.\n\nSILVERMAN: How long did you stay in New Orleans?\n\nR. PICHULIK: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just one night.\n\nSILVERMAN: What made you come to Atlanta? Why Atlanta?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Because we got a permit from the Jewish organization. The Jewish\norganization gave us a permit to America.\n\nSILVERMAN: Which Jewish organization was it?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Which ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"organization? HIAS?\n\nSILVERMAN: HIAS. Right, okay. And Louis was born in Germany and you, Louis, and\nSara came to Atlanta.\n\nR. PICHULIK: Louis was born in Russia.\n\nSILVERMAN: Oh, he was born in Russia?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Yea.\n\nSILVERMAN: Do you remember what happened when you first got to Atlanta? Like,\nthe first day in Atlanta?\n\nR. 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We were moving ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Atlanta and Washington Street.\n\nSILVERMAN: When you said people picked you up and brought you to a place to\nlive, was this the Federation or the HAIS?\n\nR. PICHULIK: It was the Jewish Federation.\n\nSILVERMAN: Did they help you get a job? You said when you first started to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"work.\n\nR. PICHULIK: Yea. I had a job as a printer. I knew the printing because in\nPoland I had my own printing shop. Besides, I used to work in the newspaper. I\nwould make a lot of money, enough money, to save. I was young, got married, and\nI put . . . my brother was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then over there, a printer. He was out of work. So we\nmade an idea to start our own business and make a printing shop in Warsaw.\n\nSILVERMAN: You're talking about before the war or are you talking about when you\ncame to Atlanta?\n\nR. PICHULIK: This was before the war. I forgot to mention that, huh?\n\nSILVERMAN: No, that's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fine. How many brothers and sisters?\n\nR. PICHULIK: I had no sisters, it was five brothers. I had four brothers, but\nthey don't live anymore.\n\nSILVERMAN: But one brother survived that came--\n\nR. PICHULIK: One brother survived and he passed away on the 16th of January, 1990.\n\nSILVERMAN: And what was his name?\n\nR. PICHULIK: He was 79 years old.\n\nSILVERMAN: And what was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his name?\n\nR. PICHULIK: He was named Charlie.\n\nSILVERMAN: He was married?\n\nR. PICHULIK: He was married. He had two sons, and his wife Lena.\n\nSILVERMAN: What was his Yiddish name, Charlie?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Pardon?\n\nSILVERMAN: What was Charlie's Yiddish name?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Chaskiel.\n\nSILVERMAN: Chaskiel. When you first came to Atlanta, did Chaskiel come with you?\n\nR. PICHULIK: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, Chaskiel came a few months later. I came over here in 1951, the\n9th of December in 1951. He came 1952, in April.\n\nSILVERMAN: Did you get him to come over? Were you the one responsible for\nbringing him to Atlanta?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Yea, he had a permit somewhere else and he changed it. He tried to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be together with our family.\n\nSILVERMAN: Okay. His wife Lena. Can you tell us a little bit about her and her\nrelationship to Sara.\n\nR. PICHULIK: The two sisters? After they let us ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"free, in Russia, in 1943, we\ncame together. You see, they had been living in another place in Russia. They\nwere working in the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"woods, in hard work. After they let us free, we had the\nright to go where we want to go. So we went together and we've been\ntogether--the two families--since 1943.\n\nSILVERMAN: So they were together with you that whole time through the war?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Yea. 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How did you\nfeel about the Jewish community?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Very good. I even tried to work, I had the permit that says that I\nam a printer and I went to work in a printing shop.\n\nSILVERMAN: Do you remember the name of it?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Montag Brothers. I think they still exist.\n\nSILVERMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=720.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely.\n\nR. PICHULIK: No?\n\nSILVERMAN: Yea, they do.\n\nR. PICHULIK: Montag Brothers. They've been . . .\n\nSILVERMAN: How long did you work there?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Not long. When I work over there--I had enough. 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I make $27 a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"week. After that . . . I got . . .\nthat Harold Sigel . . . he had another business, an insurance business. He tried\nto get an American person that spoke perfect English. So, he laid me off. He\nsaid, \"Go ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ahead and look for another.\" I tried to get another job. It was hard\nfor me, talking to other people. I talked to a guy, Simon . . . brother, olev\nhasholem, he passed away. He gave me another job at Gate City Table Company.\n\nSILVERMAN: What was Simon's last name? Do you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remember?\n\nR. PICHULIK: . . . I used to remember.\n\nSILVERMAN. That's okay, that's fine. When you got to Atlanta and you were\nstarting to look for a new business and a new job, did you face any\ndiscrimination? Did you feel like people didn't like you because of your\nreligion, or your accent, or anything like that? 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Not on the streetcars, not in the\noffices, not in the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"post office. No kind job, Jewish men are not able to have\nthat in Poland. That was new to me when I came over here. They probably feel the\nway like we were feeling in Poland. And that's not right.\n\nSILVERMAN: Did you join a synagogue?\n\nR. PICHULIK: When I went to the synagogue?\n\nSILVERMAN: Did you join a synagogue when you moved?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Yea. I joined right over there. Ahavath Achim was right over there,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on Washington Street.\n\nSILVERMAN: What made you pick that particular synagogue, Ahavath Achim? Was\nthere a few synagogues?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Yea. I know--I live on Washington Street. That was not far from\nWashington Street?\n\nSILVERMAN: Did you make any friends when you first came?\n\nR. PICHULIK: I made some ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"friends with survivors. A lot of survivors were before\nI came. I came in 1951 and some people came in 1946.\n\nSILVERMAN: Who were some of your closest friends?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Closest friends? Your father, your uncle.\n\nSILVERMAN: Who were Sam and Isaac ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Wise.\n\nR. PICHULIK: Isaac Wise. And Sam Wise. Later, my wife she became friends with--Borestein.\n\nSILVERMAN: Is there a first name?\n\nR. 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Let's backtrack just a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"little bit, because I want to bring\nus up to 1960. You were working for the Montag company. After Montag company,\nyou went to the deli. After the delicatessen, what happened?\n\nR. PICHULIK: After delicatessen, I went to the table company.\n\nSILVERMAN: . . .\n\nR. 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Was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hard. I said, \"How can I go in a\ngrocery store without a language, without nothing.\" I bought the first grocery\nstore for $4,000.\n\nSILVERMAN: Where was it?\n\nR. PICHULIK: This was . . . Jackson Street Market! 148 Jackson Street.\n\nSILVERMAN: And you ran it by yourself?\n\nR. 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We worked for sixteen\nhours a day, seven days a week.\n\nSILVERMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the one grocery store? Did you ever go to another one? Or you kept\nthat grocery store?\n\nR. PICHULIK: That grocery store I ran about eleven years.\n\nSILVERMAN: What was the name of it?\n\nR. PICHULIK: I said Jackson Street Market.\n\nSILVERMAN: Oh, it was Jackson Street Market.\n\nR. PICHULIK: I've been over there . . . the Jackson Street Market, the city took\naway the place over there. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"After we went to court, they paid me $3,000 for the\nfixtures and everything and I have to look for another job, another grocery\nstore. We bought another grocery on 1619 Boulevard Drive.\n\nSILVERMAN: What was the name of that one?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Boulevard Drive Supermarket.\n\nSILVERMAN: Did you own that one by yourself or with your brother?\n\nR. PICHULIK: By myself.\n\nSILVERMAN: And how long were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you in that store?\n\nR. PICHULIK: I was been since 1966 until--after '71.\n\nSILVERMAN: Do you want talk about those years?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Pardon?\n\nSILVERMAN: We had started to talk about when you decided you wanted to build a\nmonument to the six million Jews.\n\nR. 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We can\ncome together and we can see what we can do about . . . to put in a monument.\nPut in the names of the families with kedusha that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"died by the concentration\ncamps. That was 1963. I started talking to people to do something about it.\nAnyway, I find out . . . I met over there a guy, a Dr. Leon Rosen and I talked\nto ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"him. I ask him if he agree, if he is of the same mind what I have, to do\nsomething about this, to build a monument for the survivors, for the kedusha,\nfor the six million kedusha, including our families. He understands it was the\nright thing to do and we started off to do it, me, my wife, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my sister in\nlaw. We started off and someone--he brought in some . . . he brought in some . .\n. Later on . . . come in over ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there. Later on, Lola Lansky came in after we'd\nbeen working already. Lola Lansky come in over there. In 1965, in April, 19\nApril, twenty years after ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the war, we celebrated the opening of the new\nmonument. We invited people from the Jewish Federation, we invited the rabbis\nfrom the synagogues.\n\nSILVERMAN: So, you were really the first one to come up with the idea--\n\nR. 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Who came up with the design for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the monument?\n\nR. PICHULIK: We had this architect. There was this architect over there, a young\nman. We'd been thinking--he was not a full survivor because he was three years\nold ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when he came to Atlanta. He was an architect. We talked to him and we asked\nhim if he was able to do something about this, to do the architecture about the\nmonument. He was not so good off. He was not able to pay for the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"monument, he\nnever was good off. We paid him $500 . . . I paid him a check for $500 for the .\n. . I agreed to pay him over there, because he was not able to take away the\ntime and do it . . . Later, we were looking for a builder. We talked to several\nbuilders. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Finally, we come across a builder over there. What was his name?\n\nSILVERMAN: Was it Abe Besser?\n\nR. PICHULK: Abe Besser. We came to Abe Besser. Abe Besser started it off. He\nagreed to build it because he was in the building business. He built some\napartments. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1920.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He . . . he will build it. We paid him for each thing which he got.\nI pay him by check . . .\n\nSILVERMAN: So is this how the survivor's group got started? Did you start the Hemshech?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Yea.\n\nSILVERMAN: Was this the beginning of Hemshech?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Hemshech. We . . . ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rosa said the name we give it is Hemshech. We\nagreed that we will build the monument, but only our money, with our help, with\nnobody's help outside. Only the survivors will pay for this, only the survivors\nwill work on this. We will have even no help, no kind of help, from ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"outside.\n\nSILVERMAN: So you didn't even ask for . . .\n\nR PICHULIK: Not from the Jewish Federation, not from Gaschul, not from\nkind--only from, we will build it ourselves. And we agreed after we build it, we\nwill finish the monument, we will turn over to the Jewish Federation. We used to\ncall it the Yiddish . . . that used to be in Europe the same thing. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2010.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nobody in\nEurope been having a cemetery. Only the Yiddish . . . that's what we agreed. We\nwill build it for ourselves, with our money, with no kind of help, and after the\ncompletion of the monument, we will turn it over to the Federation. That was\nseen differently. Some other people got in over there. They ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tried to take\nadvantage of this and tried to take the . . . for himself. They've embarrassed\nother people. There was fighting all the time about this. One fighting against\neach other. They started off taking it over there. They put the names on the . .\n. for himself. And the Jewish Federation started off coming ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"over there in 1971.\nThey come in with . . . everything they did. They didn't change it. They let\nother people running over there and still the same thing happened. One person\nembarrassed the other people and fighting all the time. The Jewish Federation\nmade the biggest mistake for not doing what we had agreed that will take it\nover, will step over to the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2100.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"side, the Federation will take over everything. And\nthe name Hemshech will only be an organization for survivors, but they will have\nnothing to do with the monument. The monument got taken care only the Jewish Federation.\n\nSILVERMAN: And now the monument is part of the Jewish Federation. The monument\nhas been ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"taken over by the Jewish Federation.\n\nR. PICHULIK: No. Some people running around over there. I showed you I got\nembarrassing letters over there from the president. Embarrassing letters! But I\nwas the only one with that come with the idea and worked so hard over there with\nmy wife and my sister in law. She sent me a letter ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if I even had a right to come\nin over there at the cemetery. Other people over there put in some wrong names\nthat embarrassed everybody.\n\nSILVERMAN: We had stopped the tape right at the beginning of when Mr. Pichulik\nhas put on, it was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his idea to start the memorial that is built at the cemetery.\nThe voice that you will be hearing on the tape now is Mrs. Sara Pichulik. She\nhas a few things to add that she had not put on the tape before that we want to\nget as part of our history.\n\nS. PICHULIK: You want me to tell you about the monument?\n\nSILVERMAN: You're welcome to.\n\nS. PICHULIK: About the monument?\n\nSILVERMAN: We want to hear about the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"monument and anything else you want to tell\nus about.\n\nS. PICHULIK: I want to do something for my parents, but I couldn't do. Whatever\nI did, didn't satisfy me. I put up some little bushes, I did everything! I put\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the papers. I look for people, I look for friends, for relatives. Didn't\nsatisfy me. Until one day I was with my husband and my sisters and someone told\nme that they were making monuments in other cities. They make monuments. I told\nmyself, this is the best thing that I want to do. I want to make a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"monument. So\nI went to your uncle, to Weiss.\n\nR. PICHULIK: . . .\n\nS. PICHULIK: . . . To Bart. He is my friend still and he was my only friend. I\nsaid, \"Weiss, I want to make a monument. Would you like to work with us? You\nhave lots of friends. Please tell them that we should make a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"monument. They make\nmonuments in other cities. I want to make a monument.\" It was eight days and two\nweeks and two months and he didn't show up! He didn't call me! I said, \"You will\ncall me?\" He said, \"Yes.\" He didn't call me. I called him up. He said, \"Nobody\nwants a monument.\" So, I told my husband, \"Nobody wants a monument, but I still\nwant a monument. Who can we take?\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And here was a lawyer, Rosen. But somehow,\nnobody liked him. He got into an argument even with my husband. I told my\nhusband, \"Ask Rosen.\" He said, \"Who?\" I said, \"Rosen! Ask Rosen and we will have\na monument. We need him now, go call him up.\" He called him up and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he said,\n\"Rosen, come over, I want to talk to you. We want to make a monument.\" And you\nknow, I put down the receiver and took a bath. Not even ten minutes, somebody\nknocks on the door. I open the door, Rosen! He came in and he hugged and he\nsaid, \"Whose idea was it?\" I said, \"Our idea. My husband, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2400.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me, my sister. We need\nto make a monument. In other cities, they make.\" He said, \"We will have a\nmonument.\" I said, \"Listen, Rosen, it's not to go to the store and buy a loaf of\nbread. You know we need money and we need people to work.\" He said, \"We will\nhave money and we will have people to work.\" In the meantime, nobody wanted it.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, he said, \"I have a friend, Marla Gostron and he husband.\" I said, \"Anybody\nwill do. Please. Anybody will do.\" They came. Right away, the first meeting was\nin my house. He said, \"Tell me what to do? What we will do. Where we will put\nthe monument?\" Some said, in the front of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Federation. I said, \"It's not a\ngood idea in front of the Federation.\" In the meantime, Mr. Bromberg came over\nto help us. I said, \"You know something? We will put the monument--\"--cemetery,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's right, \"In the cemetery!\" We deiced. I said, \"That's the best place. We\nhave place, people will come, people will see.\" Here, by the Federation, if they\nsell the building, what will be with the monument? Maybe the people will not\nlike a monument in the front of the building. The best thing is the . . . over\nthere. You know? We went over ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there, we paid a deposit for the land, and we\nalready started with our other builder . . .\n\nSILVERMAN: Architect.\n\nS. PICHULIK: Architect. We got an architect, we got a place on the cemetery.\nLola came, to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"help. We start. The most money gave Rubin, my husband, the very\nmost money gave Rubin. And they all walked out. He walked out. It was only a few\npeople, but everybody walked out. We want to make the names on the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wall. We were\nlooking for a builder. We already took . . .\n\nSILVERMAN: Abe Besser.\n\nS. PICHULIK: Besser. We took Besser and he was the builder. He didn't charge\nnothing. Rubin was a treasurer. Every little piece of paper went through his\nhands. Everything went through ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his hands. The checks, everything. He paid for\neverything. He sent the two of us everywhere. Nothing came out that he didn't\nsign and Rosen was with him, always. We need to go to New York and make the\nnames. The names, we need to go to New York. What should we do? Where will we\ngo? In the meantime, we don't have money! Rubin said, \"I will ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pay for. I will\npay for my packet. I will pay for.\" I said, \"Good.\" We closed the store for four\ndays. We went to New York. You need tickets, round trip tickets, cost you money.\nHotel, cost you money. Food, a restaurant three times a day. Again, money. The\nmost important thing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was a cab. We couldn't go with a streetcar, we didn't know\nwhere to go. A cab took us around, around we go, and we paid for. Now, some\npeople say that we didn't pay nothing. We didn't pay nothing, we didn't give\nnothing. I want this to know everybody, the last ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time . . . in the meantime, the\nmonument was finished, everybody went their ways. Rosen went to Israel.\n\nSILVERMAN: . . .\n\nS. PICHULIK: What?\n\nSILVERMAN: Do you remember Mr. Rosen's first name?\n\nS. PICHULIK: I don't know.\n\nR. PICHULIK: . . .\n\nS. PICHULIK: We called him Rosen.\n\nSILVERMAN: Yea, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2730.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sure.\n\nR. PICHULIK: He was born in 1910, like he said, and he passed away in 1978 in Israel.\n\nSILVERMAN: What was his first name?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Leo.\n\nSILVERMAN: Leo Rosen.\n\nS. PICHULIK: What?\n\nR. PICHULIK: His middle name was Checatch. The middle name that he changed for Rosen.\n\nSILVERMAN: Okay, okay.\n\nS. PICHULIK: Rosen, yea. Everybody went away, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2760.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know. The last time, Lola\nasked for money, for money she asked, because they need to fix the monument.\n\nSILVERMAN: When was that?\n\nS. PICHULIK: A few years ago? I don't know. When was this, Rubin?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Why do you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2790.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have to mention this?\n\nS. PICHULIK: No, I want this to know everybody. You know, everybody gave $100,\n$200, $500, I gave $1000. Every year I paid dues, paid for it. The last thing\nwas when she put up ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something, I don't know what was it, in the front of the\nmonument. They put up something, names, that these people made the monument.\n\nSILVERMAN: . . .\n\nS. PICHULIK: What was it?\n\nSILVERMAN: They put up a plaque.\n\nS. PICHULIK: Plaque?\n\nSILVERMAN: A plaque . . .\n\nS. PICHULIK: A plaque, yea. Not my name, not my sister's name, and they did my\nhusband a favor, but they put somebody else, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2850.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they put the . . . Nitka somebody.\nEvery meeting was in my house, and I never saw Nitka, and I never saw Mr.\nLansky. No. So, when I saw this, the plaque over there in the pond, I said,\n\"This lie will not be in front of the lights, the six lights, the names in the\nback, and this will not ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be where the six million kedusham.\" I said, \"Take away\nthe lie . . . take this away, you will take away.\" I said, \"You will take this\naway,\" I told the builder, \"You will take this away.\" He took this away.\n\nSILVERMAN: He did?\n\nS. PICHULIK: Yea. He built the monument, he finished with building the monument, yea?\n\nSILVERMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We stopped right at the beginning of the building of the monument.\nNow, we can talk together if you want. Did it make you feel better, having the\nmonument there? When you were saying you felt so bad that you couldn't find what\nto do with yourself. Having the monument, did it make you feel better?\n\nS. PICHULIK: Yes! Yes! Because this was for my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"parents . . .\n\nSILVERMAN: I think it's that way for many of the survivors. They feel that way.\n\nS. PICHULIK: Everybody came and put the names for their mothers and fathers, for\ntheir relatives. And they're very happy. Some people came later. They're still\ncoming to put names. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everybody's happy. I think it's a good thing we did.\n\nSILVERMAN: It's a wonderful thing you did! It's something, and it's so important\n. . .\n\nS. PICHULIK: But we started. Rubin and--\n\nSILVERMAN: You did start. Even when I was a little girl, I remember how you\nstarted it.\n\nS. PICHULIK: In '65, 1965 this started. Now they are coming, \"Why didn't you\ntell me, why didn't you tell me?\" I told everybody, because I wanted everybody\nto do ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it.\n\nSILVERMAN: Well now we have--\n\nS. PICHULIK: We have a monument.\n\nSILVERMAN: --it on document, and you truly built an unbelievable monument.\n\nS. PICHULIK: That's right. Just a few people. I'll show you the few people, I'll\nshow you a picture.\n\nSILVERMAN: Okay.\n\nS. PICHULIK: You can put this up.\n\nSILVERMAN: There was also--we'll be glad to--but there was also a story about\nyour brother that has never been put on tape.\n\nS. PICHULIK: I cannot, I cannot.\n\nSLIVERMAN: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, we'll do it later, okay. If you can't that's fine. Whenever you\nfeel like you can--we'll go back to the good part, we'll go back to . . .\n\nWOMAN'S VOICE: How did they meet?\n\nSILVERMAN: Well, they were together . . . how . . . when you met--\n\nS. PICHULIK: Who?\n\nSILVERMAN: The two of you meet. But, we had already--we'll go back to that. I'd\nreally like to continue, besides the monument, about your life in Atlanta.\n\nS. PICHULIK: The life in Atlanta? 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PICHULIK: When we came to Atlanta, my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"daughter was three years old.\n\nS. PICHULIK: What a hard life.\n\nR. PICHULIK: My son was six years old.\n\nS. PICHULIK: What a very hard life. My six year old son took care of my three\nyear old daughter. The biggest--how to say in English? . . .\n\nSILVERMAN: Hurt, heartache.\n\nS. PICHULIK: Hurt, was that the children are ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coming and I cannot open the door\nand see them, take them in. My Luis, my son, brought in my daughter and I called\nthem over, \"You have food over there, call me, and don't go to the stove.\" I was\nafraid they'd do something. He took care of my daughter. My six year old took\ncare of my three year old. And the store was not ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too good either. Because\nevery--a few times a week we have hold ups. You know, what could we do?\n\nSILVERMAN: Was this in the second store that you had hold ups?\n\nS. PICHULIK: The same thing. Rubin, tell them.\n\nSILVERMAN: How long were you in this store?\n\nS. PICHULIK: How long? Rubin, you tell ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them.\n\nR. PICHULIK: Altogether, both stores, eighteen years.\n\nSILVERMAN: Eighteen years. And what made you decide to leave?\n\nR. PICHULIK: Decide to leave? Since I came to America, the first day, I've been\nlooking for a better job and for better work. Finally, I came to a little money\nand I started off . . . 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I have to make the money that I put ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in. Somebody\nlost the money over there. I went in over there with a partner. I found a\npartner and I came to Atlanta.\n\nS. PICHULIK: Carl Javinsky.\n\nR. PICHULIK: Carl Javinksy! He just came to Atlanta from Germany, new. He said\nhe got a little money and I make a little money from the grocery store. From my\nhard work, I saved a little money. We ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bought the first place. The first place,\nwe bought 40 units on . . . Avenue. We got a good income. Later on, we bought so\nmore and more, little by little. I separated with Carl Javinsky in 1975. Since\n1962 to 1975, we'd been together. 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All our\nfamilies live in the real estate business we make a good living and we're happy\nwith this.\n\nSILVERMAN: You literally ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"came to Atlanta with nothing and you created an empire,\nnot only within your business, but you've created an empire within your family.\n\nR. PICHULIK: That's right.\n\nSILVERMAN: So tell me a little about your children, and the most important thing\nin your life, your grandchildren. Both of you can talk.\n\nR. PICHULIK: My children? 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She'd ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fifteen years old now.\n\nS. PICHULIK: Our granddaughter, sixteen.\n\nR. PICHULIK: My daughter has a daughter that is our granddaughter, Laura, her\nname. My son has--\n\nS. PICHULIK: --three children.\n\nR. PICHULIK: Three children.\n\nS. PICHULIK: One is in college, she's coming out . . .\n\nR. PICHULIK: Yes. This year finishes college, she's in Chicago. She's twenty-two\nyears ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"old. And Suzanne.\n\nS. PICHULIK: What's her name?\n\nR. PICHULIK: She's Emily. She's going to college, the first year, named Emily.\nShe's eighteen years old.\n\nS. PICHULIK: Laura's in high school.\n\nR. PICHULIK: They have a son. He's ten--eleven years old now, already, no?\n\nS. PICHULIK: He will be eleven.\n\nR. PICHULIK: David. That's the three children ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there.\n\nS. PICHULIK: That's it.\n\nSILVERMAN: That's more than just it. It's a wonderful story. That's what we\nwanted to get. How you came to America, how you came to Atlanta, how you got\nstarted, and you're truly two of the pioneer survivors in the city of Atlanta\nthat helped start the survivor community.\n\nR. PICHULIK: That's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right.\n\nSILVERMAN: You've made a difference to everybody and every survivor here in Atlanta.\n\nS. PICHULIK: We're not different.\n\nSILVERMAN: You've made a difference.\n\nS. PICHULIK: We're all the same. We're not better, we're not worse.\n\nSILVERMAN: What do you hope for your grandchildren?\n\nS. PICHULIK: That they will finish college. They will get married to good\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people, special Jewish people. To have . . . that's all.\n\nR. PICHULIK: The main thing that they would start off their own life, get\nmarried and start off their own families and be happy with this. They make happy\ntheir parents and their grandparents, they will be happy. That's all that we are\nlooking ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for.\n\nSILVERMAN: They do, they do. Well, it's been a pleasure. If there's anything\nthat anyone of you want to add to the tape. If there's anything you want to say.\n\nS. PICHULIK: I don't think so.\n\nR. PICHULIK: We would say that we thank you, thank you very much for coming out\nto our house.\n\nSILVERMAN: It was our ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pleasure.\n\nS. PICHULIK: Yea, we thank you very, very much.\n\nR. PICHULIK: It's a special Saba that was our close friends, and the father and\nthe mother were our closest friends. We're glad we had a chance to say--it was\nour pleasure to have an ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3600.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/transcript/21673/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interview with us. The lady Einstein, we thank you very\nmuch for your hard work and what you did over here. For your hard, we thank you.\nWe appreciate and we will never forget what you did for us.\n\nSILVERMAN: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=3630.0,3660.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/annotation_set/312","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Annotations [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/annotation_set/312/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAnapa is a town in Krasnodar Krai, Russia on the northern shore of the Black Sea close to the Sea of Azov. One of the most ancient cities in Russia, it was designated as a Federal resort region in 1994. It is primarily a health resort with natural resources such as mud and mineral water. During the Second World War, the town was mostly destroyed by Nazi Germany between 1942 and 1943. Romanian troops assisted in the destruction.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/annotation_set/312/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eKrasnodar Krai is a federal of Russia with ‘krai’ being the designation of a geographical administrative area in Russia. Krasnodar Krai is located in Southern Russia by the Northern Caucuses.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/annotation_set/312/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eWhen hostilities ended on May 8, 1945 in Europe, as many as 100,000 Jewish survivors found themselves among the 7,000,000 uprooted and homeless people classified as displaced persons (DPs). In a chaotic six-month period, 6,000,000 non-Jewish DPs, who had been deported to Germany as forced laborers for the Nazis, wandered through Germany and Eastern Europe toward their homelands. The liberated Jews, who were plagued by illness and exhaustion, emerged from concentration camps and hiding places to discover a world in which they had no place. Bereft of home and family, and reluctant to return to their pre-war homelands, these Jews were joined in a matter of months by more than 150,000 other Jews fleeing fierce antisemitism in Poland, Hungary, Romania and Russia. Allied forces established temporary facilities (DP Camps) across Germany, Austria, and Italy to house DPs.\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eOften, shelter was improvised and DPs found themselves housed in everything from former military barracks, summer camps and airports to castles, hotels and even private homes. Initially, the Allies herded Jewish DPs and non-Jewish DPs together, but conflicts arose. The need to recognize Jews as a unique and stateless group of DPs was urgent, and became obvious to the Americans. They created the first exclusively Jewish DP camp at Feldafing, which began absorbing Jews from Dachau in the summer of 1945.\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eMost DP camps had been designated as either Jewish or non-Jewish by the end of 1945. In 1946 and 1947, the number of DPs in the camps rose substantially and conditions were often overcrowded and harsh. New organization and policies eventually took shape that substantially improved the DPs camps. Refugees were given some authority to manage their own affairs and some survivors began to establish new political and cultural lives. Many DPs married and started families while in the camps.\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eFrom 1945 to 1952, more than 250,000 Jewish displaced persons lived in camps and urban centers in Germany, Austria, and Italy. Allied authorities and the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration (UNRRA) administered these facilities. Displaced Jews registered with various aid agencies like UNRRA (United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration), the IRO (International Refugee Organization), or the British Red Cross’ Central Tracing Bureau (which would later be renamed the International Tracing Service) in the hopes of reconnecting with their families. Eventually, DPs were repatriated to their home countries, reestablished themselves in new countries or immigrated outside of Europe. 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The Nazis differentiated between concentration camps, which were used to contain slave laborers and prisoners of the Nazi state, and extermination camps, whose primary purpose was the systematic killing of prisoners.\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eShortly after coming to power in 1933, the Nazis began to set up a series of concentration camps across Germany. Those were mostly local initiatives: facilities that the SA, SS, and police established on an ad hoc basis, where they would detain and abuse real and imagined enemies of the regime. By 1934, there were over 100 of these early camps in operation.\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eWhen the Nazi regime came to power, they systematically persecuted both Jewish and non-Jewish Germans perceived to be opponents of the regime. Political opponents (Communists, Social Democrats, liberals) were some of the first victims housed in “temporary” detention centers like Lichtenburg. Jews, homosexuals, Freemasons, Jehovah's Witnesses, clergy who opposed the Nazis, and any others whose behavior—real or perceived—could be interpreted as being in opposition to Nazi political and racial ideologies were also persecuted and incarcerated. The Nazi regime refused to tolerate criticism, dissent, or nonconformity from the German people. Non-Jewish German political activists were treated harshly but other political opponents remained potentially valuable members of the German race. The goal behind their internment in and subsequent release from concentration camps was often a kind of reeducation that would see them fall into line with the regime’s political and racial ideologies.\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eBetween 1933 and 1939, tens of thousands of Germans were sentenced by the criminal courts. If authorities were confident of a conviction in court, the prisoner was turned over to the justice system for trial. If the outcome of criminal proceedings were unsatisfactory, the acquitted citizen or the citizen who was sentenced to a suspended sentence would still be taken into “protective detention” and incarcerated in a concentration camp.\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eThe first concentration camps were established in 1933. Various authorities set up the makeshift “camps” in empty warehouses, factories, and other locations. Camps were established in Oranienburg, north of Berlin; Esterwegen, near Hamburg; Dachau, northwest of Munich; and Lichtenburg, in Saxony. By the end of July 1933, almost 27,000 people were housed in these camps. Most of the prisoners were political opponents of the Nazi regime. By the end of 1934, most of these early camps were disbanded and replaced by a centrally organized concentration camp system under the exclusive jurisdiction of the SS.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/annotation_set/312/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, HIAS. was founded in 1881.  Its original purpose was the help the constant flow of Jewish immigrants from Russian in relocating.  During and after World War II, they had offices throughout Europe, South and Central America and the Far East.  They worked to get Jews out of Europe and to any country that would have them by providing tickets and information about visas.  After World War II, they assisted 167,000 Jews to leave DP camps and emigrate elsewhere. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/annotation_set/312/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Jewish Federation of Greater Atlanta raises funds, which are dispersed throughout the Jewish community.  Services also include caring for Jews in need locally and around the world, community outreach, leadership development, and educational opportunities.  It is part of the Jewish Federation of North America (JFNA).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/annotation_set/312/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAntisemitism is prejudice against, hostility to, or hatred of Jews.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/35155/file/104099/annotation_set/312/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eMontag Brothers Paper Company was founded in 1924 by Louis Montag. 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