{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/bk16m33s8q/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Arnold, Phyllis Gershon Massell"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1994-10-06 (creation)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003ePhyllis Gershon Arnold interviewed by Sandy Leff on October 6, 1994 and December 1, 1994 in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e (general)","\u003cp\u003ePhyllis’s father, Sam Gershon, came to Atlanta from Kobryn, Russia in 1904. He opened a successful chain of dry goods stores that provided him with the means to bring his and his wife’s families from Russia to America. Sam was involved in the Central Relief Committee and the Kobryn Relief Society and helped establish orphanages, vocational schools, and old age homes in Russia. After the death of his first wife in the 1919 flu epidemic, he met Jeanette Gershon on one of his trips back to Russia and eventually brought her to Atlanta as his bride. Phyllis was born in 1934, the youngest of four surviving children.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe family settled in Carrolton, Georgia during the Great Depression to run The Leader, the last remaining of Sam’s dry goods stores. Phyllis’s early years were marked by World War II and the news of Holocaust. She was active in raising money for war bonds and collecting materials for the war drive. They returned to Atlanta when Phyllis was twelve years old and became full participants in the city’s thriving Jewish community. Phyllis’s Jewish life was centered around Ahavath Achim synagogue, the Jewish Education Alliance on Capitol Avenue, and the social club Daughters of Zion. She attended Grady High School, which was a short walk from her home on Vedado Way. As a member of DOZ, Phyllis partook in philanthropy, fundraising, dances, sports, and various teenage social activities. Following her father’s example, Phyllis always dedicated a portion of her time to charity projects both with DOZ and independently.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eShe attended the University of Georgia for one year before marrying and having two children. After getting divorced at age twenty-four, she attended night school and worked two jobs while raising her two young daughters. As divorce was then highly uncommon, young Jewish women considering divorce sought her out to ask for advice and sympathy. After four years, she married physician Joe Arnold. The two were married at AA Synagogue and had three children together. Phyllis remained active in charity work and at her children’s school. At the time of the interview, she recently reconnected with and visited her mother’s family in Russia.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003ePhyllis discusses the immigration of her family and their arrival in Atlanta. She describes her father’s business and charity work, as well as Jewish life in Carrolton and Atlanta during the 1940s and 1950s. She recalls the effect of World War II and the Holocaust on her formative years. She details the tight-knit Jewish community in Atlanta during this time and the activities of Jewish youth, including dating, sports, philanthropy, and religious life. Ahavath Achim Synagogue is involved in a large part of her narrative. The interview covers her adulthood and the religious life of her own family. Though she describes her youth as a golden age for Jewish Atlanta, she remains firm in her belief of Atlanta as a haven for Jews.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28599"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Arnold, Phyllis Gershon (personal name)","Gershon, Sam (personal name)","Atlanta, Georgia (geographic)","Carrolton, Georgia (geographic)","Kobryn, Russia (geographic)","Ahavath Achim Synagogue (corporate name)","Department Stores (topical)","The Leader (local term)","Grady High School (geographic term)","Jewish Educational Alliance (corporate name)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003ePhyllis Gershon Arnold interviewed by Sandy Leff on October 6, 1994 and December 1, 1994 in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003ePhyllis’s father, Sam Gershon, came to Atlanta from Kobryn, Russia in 1904. He opened a successful chain of dry goods stores that provided him with the means to bring his and his wife’s families from Russia to America. Sam was involved in the Central Relief Committee and the Kobryn Relief Society and helped establish orphanages, vocational schools, and old age homes in Russia. After the death of his first wife in the 1919 flu epidemic, he met Jeanette Gershon on one of his trips back to Russia and eventually brought her to Atlanta as his bride. Phyllis was born in 1934, the youngest of four surviving children.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe family settled in Carrolton, Georgia during the Great Depression to run The Leader, the last remaining of Sam’s dry goods stores. Phyllis’s early years were marked by World War II and the news of Holocaust. She was active in raising money for war bonds and collecting materials for the war drive. They returned to Atlanta when Phyllis was twelve years old and became full participants in the city’s thriving Jewish community. Phyllis’s Jewish life was centered around Ahavath Achim synagogue, the Jewish Education Alliance on Capitol Avenue, and the social club Daughters of Zion. She attended Grady High School, which was a short walk from her home on Vedado Way. As a member of DOZ, Phyllis partook in philanthropy, fundraising, dances, sports, and various teenage social activities. Following her father’s example, Phyllis always dedicated a portion of her time to charity projects both with DOZ and independently.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eShe attended the University of Georgia for one year before marrying and having two children. After getting divorced at age twenty-four, she attended night school and worked two jobs while raising her two young daughters. As divorce was then highly uncommon, young Jewish women considering divorce sought her out to ask for advice and sympathy. After four years, she married physician Joe Arnold. The two were married at AA Synagogue and had three children together. Phyllis remained active in charity work and at her children’s school. At the time of the interview, she recently reconnected with and visited her mother’s family in Russia.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003ePhyllis discusses the immigration of her family and their arrival in Atlanta. She describes her father’s business and charity work, as well as Jewish life in Carrolton and Atlanta during the 1940s and 1950s. She recalls the effect of World War II and the Holocaust on her formative years. She details the tight-knit Jewish community in Atlanta during this time and the activities of Jewish youth, including dating, sports, philanthropy, and religious life. Ahavath Achim Synagogue is involved in a large part of her narrative. The interview covers her adulthood and the religious life of her own family. Though she describes her youth as a golden age for Jewish Atlanta, she remains firm in her belief of Atlanta as a haven for Jews.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/119/769/small/Phyllis_Arnold.png?1627122515","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Arnold_Phyllis.mp3"]},"duration":10615.90204,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/119/769/small/Phyllis_Arnold.png?1627122515","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-thebreman.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/119/769/original/Arnold_Phyllis.mp3?1626799069","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mp3","duration":10615.90204,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Phyllis Arnold [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: This is Sandy Leff, and I am interviewing Phyllis Gershon Arnold for the\nJewish Oral History Project of Atlanta, co-sponsored by the Atlanta Jewish\nCommittee, the Atlanta Jewish Federation, and the National Council of Jewish\nWomen. The date is Thursday, October sixth, 1994, and we are presently in\nPhyllis' home at 2625 Mercedes Drive, Northeast, in Atlanta. Phyllis, can we\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"start by asking you where you were born?\n\nARNOLD: I was born in Atlanta, Piedmont Hospital, many years ago. This is 1994?\nI was born in 1934.\n\nLEFF: 1934. So, did you just have a big birthday?\n\nARNOLD: I'm going to.\n\nLEFF: You're about to.\n\nARNOLD: I'm going to.\n\nLEFF: So, we have to ask your official date, if you don't mind.\n\nARNOLD: October twenty-seventh, 1920--1934.\n\nLEFF: 1934. Are there big festivities planned for your . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . I hope not . . .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: . . . celebration?\n\nARNOLD: I hope not. [Laughs] But actually, none. I'm going to celebrate my\nbirthday with this new cousin who has a birthday in the same time frame, the one\nthat's coming from Russia.\n\nLEFF: This newly discovered relative from Russia . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . He and I are going to celebrate our birthdays together.\n\nLEFF: Isn't that a wonderful way to . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . That's if [inaudible], but we'll get to that.\n\nLEFF: Okay. What were your parents' names?\n\nARNOLD: Jeanette London Gershon.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: G-E-A-. . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . J-E-A-N . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . J-E-A-N . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . .- E-T-T-E.\n\nLEFF: Jeanette Gershon London.\n\nARNOLD: No, London Gershon.\n\nLEFF: London Gershon, right. And that was your mother. And your father?\n\nARNOLD: Was Sam Gershon.\n\nLEFF: Did he have a middle name?\n\nARNOLD: No, no middle name.\n\nLEFF: Okay. Everyone called him Sam.\n\nARNOLD: Sam.\n\nLEFF: Okay. Now, where was your father born?\n\nARNOLD: Kobryn, Russia. When he was born, it was Russia. Then it became Poland,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back and forth from Russia to Poland as the borders changed. But at the time he\nwas born, in 1877 . . .\n\nLEFF: 1877. Now, we have to spell some of these . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . K-O - . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . for the transcriber . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . .- B-R-Y-N.\n\nLEFF: Okay. Kobryn. Uh, Russia, Poland.\n\nARNOLD: Right.\n\nLEFF: Okay. And your mother?\n\nARNOLD: Was born in Brest, B-R-E-S-T, Litovsk, L-I-T-O-V-S-K. And that was Russia.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: In Russia, okay. Do you know what year she was born?\n\nARNOLD: 1900.\n\nLEFF: 1900. So, she was a good bit younger than . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Considerably younger, yes . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . than your dad?\n\nARNOLD: Yes., yes.\n\nLEFF: When did your parents come to Atlanta?\n\nARNOLD: Well, my father came to Atlanta first in 1904.\n\nLEFF: Um, were they married at that time?\n\nARNOLD: No, no, no, no.\n\nARNOLD: No, because she was only fourteen.\n\nLEFF: He was married. He had married a woman named Esther Green ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Europe, and\nthey had one child who was born in 1902. Her name was Fanny Goldstein, Fanny\nGershon Goldstein.\n\nLEFF: And she was born in Europe?\n\nARNOLD: She was born in Europe.\n\nLEFF: So how did he get . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . That was my half-sister . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . How did he get from Russia to Europe?\n\nARNOLD: Now, she was born in Russia. He left Russia, as many young men did, when\nhe was in the army. And that just was not his cup of tea. But he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"left the army.\nAnd, you know in those days, they had conscription.\n\nLEFF: Right.\n\nARNOLD: So, he was in for the duration, maybe twenty-five years, if [inaudible]\nyoung men. Anyhow, he worked his way. He was from a very poor family, very\nreligious father, and he worked his way from Russia. He went to Hamburg,\nGermany, and . . . he departed from Hamburg, Germany, for New York. And left his\nwife and child there ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to work and earn enough money to bring them here, which he\ndid . . . in just a very short time.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: He worked in New York as a dishwasher, came to Atlanta because he had a\nlandsman here, Joel Dorfan.\n\nLEFF: Who was that?\n\nARNOLD: J-O-E-L Dorfan, D-O-R-F-A-N.\n\nLEFF: Now he was well known in the community, wasn't he?\n\nARNOLD: Mr. Dorfan was the president in later years of the AA synagogue, and he\nwas a wonderful man. I remember him very well.\n\nLEFF: Well, we'll ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have to catch up on some of your memories of him.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: How was he related to . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . They were not. It was just a landsman.\n\nLEFF: Landsman.\n\nARNOLD: When he came to Atlanta, he was really on his way to Birmingham\n[Alabama] where he did have cousins, the Weinstein family in Birmingham. But he\nnever got to Birmingham. Mr. Dorfan convinced him to stay in Atlanta, and that\nwas the reason why he picked Atlanta to settle in.\n\nLEFF: And . . . he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then brought his wife and daughter . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Well, he brought his wife and daughter . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . right to Atlanta?\n\nARNOLD: A few years later. He . . . saved enough money, sent them in, and they\ncame to Atlanta. And his wife died in 1919, the flu epidemic.\n\nLEFF: Oh.\n\nARNOLD: She's buried at Oakland Cemetery.\n\nLEFF: Buried at Oakland Cemetery.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: Does your family have plots at . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . in Oakland? . . .\n\nLEFF: . . .Were there a lot of your family that are buried there?\n\nARNOLD: No . . . ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she's the only . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Only one . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . member of my family who is buried there. My parents' plots are in Greenwood.\n\nLEFF: Okay. So, but then she passed away.\n\nARNOLD: So, she left a teenage child.\n\nLEFF: Fanny . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Gershon Goldstein.\n\nLEFF: Gershon, uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: That was my sister.\n\nLEFF: Okay. So, your sister who's a good deal older.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. Two years younger than my mother. [Laughs]\nLEFF: Uh-huh. Oh, my goodness.\n\nARNOLD: And . . . in the teen years, my father had made a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"success in Atlanta\nfinancially, and he became very involved in the Central Relief Committee for War\nSufferers, the Kobryner Relief Committee. And he became a delegate. He . . . put\nvarious brothers-in-law and relatives in business here to watch the . . . dry\ngoods stores.\n\nLEFF: Now you said brothers-in-law.\n\nARNOLD: Well, he brought over his sister's family.\n\nLEFF: I see.\n\nARNOLD: Well, his wife's family.\n\nLEFF: His wife's family . . .\n\nARNOLD: I'm sorry.\n\nLEFF: . . . yeah. I see you are ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"showing me some material here that you have\nshared with the archives?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: The Central Relief Committee for the War Sufferers. It's dated 1920, is\nthat right? May [inaudible].\n\nARNOLD: That one probably is. Yeah, that was after the First World War. Before\nthat, he was very involved in what was called the Kobryner Relief Society, which\nwas an organization of Kobryners, from Kobryn.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: Oh.\n\nARNOLD: And he went repeatedly from Atlanta over there.\n\nLEFF: Back to his home town?\n\nARNOLD: Many times, taking various things for orphanages or vocational schools,\nold age homes that he started. I have pictures of all those things.\n\nLEFF: Is that right?\n\nARNOLD: It was quite wonderful work he did.\n\nLEFF: He took boats back to Russia, long trips ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back to Russia, to deliver goods\nand . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . To deliver goods, money and then in later years, after the First\nWorld War . . . you couldn't send money. It would never have reached relatives.\nNo, no. If a family in Atlanta wanted to send to their relatives there, it\ncouldn't be done. So, he would travel with a body guard, because he would have\nhuge amounts of money on him from people in Atlanta, in the surrounding\nSoutheastern states, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who wanted to send to their families over there. That was a\nreal Jewish pocket in that part of Russia-Poland. I mean it was part of the Pale\nof Settlement, and it was really, Kobryn was almost a Jewish town.\n\nLEFF: I see.\n\nARNOLD: It was bigger than a shtetl, but it was still mostly Jewish.\n\nLEFF: Okay. That is so interesting. Now, had his wife passed away when he got\ninvolved with this?\n\nARNOLD: He started getting involved when she was still alive, but when he really\npoured himself into it was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"after she had died.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: And he was successful enough, he was lonesome enough, and he really put\nhimself into it.\n\nLEFF: Two questions I want to follow through on. One, did he still have family\nback there, a mother and father?\n\nARNOLD: No, his father . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Did he ever bring his parents here?\n\nARNOLD: No. No, his father--his mother died when he was just a young child. And\nhis father died--I don't know what year his father died, I really don't, Sandy,\nbut he was a young man. No, his father never ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"came here.\n\nLEFF: They were religious, you said?\n\nARNOLD: Uh, his father was . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . A religious family?\n\nARNOLD: You remember Mrs. Adina Gross at the AA synagogue? You know Leon Gross?\nHis mother.\n\nLEFF: Yes.\n\nARNOLD: His mother. His mother was a young girl when my father met him, and she\nwas from this little shtetl, Kobryn. And she told me one day before she died\nabout a time that my father had come from America, had made a success, had gone\nback to present a Torah to the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"little synagogue, a little wooden synagogue in\nthe town. And my father was kind of a rebel of this town as far as religion or\nthings of that nature. He was observant, but not . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . To the extent.\n\nARNOLD: . . . the European sense, you know. And he, my grandfather, had a\nbeautiful voice, they said, and sang not as a chazzan but as the chazzan sheni\nin the synagogue. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=780.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he said the nicest thing was all week long he would work\nwith this horse and buggy peddling, and then on Sunday he would groom it. He\nwould clean everything up and he would groom the horse, and he would take his\ndaughter and his wife to Piedmont Park where . . . and then listen to the bands\nwith the music. Piedmont Park - this was right after the Cotton States\nExposition that was . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . In 1897?\n\nARNOLD: It was exquisite. 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It was the gazebos and the\nbandstands, and there was a lot of music there on weekends.\n\nLEFF: They say that this new Centennial Park that they're hoping to build now .\n. .\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: . . . will end up as another Piedmont Park.\n\nARNOLD: Maybe our grandchildren, Sandy, will be talking into a tape recording\nsomeday about--\n\nLEFF: [Laughs] Exactly.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=840.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARNOLD: . . . Centennial Park at the 1996 Olympics.\n\nLEFF: Olympics, right. What a legacy it left the city.\n\nARNOLD: [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: So, he had a little horse and buggy, and this family with one child.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: And then his wife passed away in the flu epidemic.\n\nARNOLD: Right.\n\nLEFF: And . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . The reason he was able to travel after his wife died with a\nteenage child is because by that time there were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more landsmen in Atlanta. And\nit was very close-knit friendships between these people. And you have an\neligible bachelor, everybody kind of takes you under their wing. And he was very\neligible. But . . .\n\nLEFF: . . .What do you remember about . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . he would--he left her, he left my sister Fanny with Rosa Fleshner,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that was a family in Atlanta . . .\n\nLEFF: How do you spell . . .?\n\nARNOLD: F-L-E-S-H-N-E-R, Fleshner. She had a boardinghouse her whole life. She\nalways, that's how she made her living. And lots of single men lived there. And\nin later years, she still had the boardinghouse when I was a child. And on\nSunday . . .\n\nLEFF: . . .Where was it?\n\nARNOLD: Well, I don't know where the one was located . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Originally . . .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARNOLD: . . . that Fanny lived in, because that's where Fanny stayed when my\nfather went back to Russia. But in later years, I remember going to her\nboardinghouse on St. Charles Avenue, and the house is still there. And she would\nserve Sunday dinner. And we would go there for Sunday dinner. It was a, you\nknow, a paid thing.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: Business, or something.\n\nLEFF: Well, how about if we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pick up on your mother a little bit.\n\nARNOLD: Okay.\n\nLEFF: Okay. Although I didn't ask you if your father, he was involved with this\nWar Relief . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Right. And . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Was he involved in . . . this was a Jewish thing, of course . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Yes . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Because it was going back to his home town and with the Torahs. Was\nhe involved in a synagogue?\n\nARNOLD: AA, always AA, invariably.\n\nLEFF: Very well.\n\nARNOLD: He was the . . . in these papers is a lot of things about that, I mean.\nIn those days, the Purim Ball was the big thing. He was always the . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . The Purim Ball?\n\nARNOLD: Yes, he was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"always the Purim Ball chairman. That was the big money maker\nof the whole year, was the Purim Ball. And he was a part of the original\nbuilding committee and the Board of Directors and all of that. His brother,\nOscar Gershon, was the president of the shul for many years. So, the AA was his\n. . .\n\nLEFF: . . . So, Oscar was brought here? He brought his brother . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . He brought all of his family. He brought his brother Oscar\nGershon. He brought his sister Rosa Garber. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know . . .\n\nLEFF: G-A-R-B-E-R, the Garber family?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, you may have interviewed Al, I would think you probably have\ninterviewed Alfred somewhere, Al Garber.\n\nLEFF: Yeah. We're losing you as you go to get coffee. [Laughs]\n\nARNOLD: I'm coming, I'm coming.\n\nLEFF: Well, we'll stop and let you get back in place, okay.\n\nARNOLD: All right. I've got it. I'm sorry.\n\nLEFF: That's all right. At the end of the interview, I always ask if there's\nanyone else you think would be a good memoirist for us, anybody else that . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . My guess ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is he's been picked.\n\nLEFF: Al . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Al Garber.\n\nLEFF: Okay. I'll check on it to make sure, because you think he would be a good\nperson for us to follow through with.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: Okay. So, your father was involved with this Central Relief Committee. I\nsee some of the lettering is in Hebrew on this.\n\nARNOLD: Some is Hebrew, some is Yiddish.\n\nLEFF: He was proficient in Hebrew and Yiddish? It's in Hebrew and then translated.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't think he was, he wasn't a Hebrew . . .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: . . . Scholar . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . scholar as far as speaking. You know, conversational . . . a lot\nof this is probably Yiddish more than it is Hebrew.\n\nLEFF: So, do you know where he lived when he first moved here?\n\nARNOLD: I think it was somewhere around Grant Street but no, I'm not . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Near Grant Park?\n\nARNOLD: Grant, yeah.\n\nLEFF: In that area?\n\nARNOLD: In that area, uh-huh. But I don't really know what street it was.\n\nLEFF: Okay, so if we pick up then with your mother, okay, a little bit about her\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"background. Born in 1900 in Brest. What kind of a family did she come from?\n\nARNOLD: My mother came from a large family. She was the fifth child born and the\nfifth girl. And she always said that her father gave a huge party when she was\nborn. And they wondered why. Aren't you disappointed, it's another girl? And his\n[inaudible], you know, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's a healthy baby kind of attitude. And he said . . .\nshe talked about her father with--and mother--but she talked a lot about her\nfather with great love, great love. So, she was one of . . . she was the fifth,\nand then there were several sons following. My father ended up bringing all of\nher family that wanted to leave and couldn't to this country. He brought many,\nmany people to this country . . . other than family.\n\nLEFF: So, did they meet over there?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARNOLD: They met there on one of his trips back with aid to the people in\nKobryn. He also went to the surrounding areas, and Brest Litovsk and Kobryn were\nonly, at the most, sixty miles apart. And he went into Kobryn and he set up in a\nhotel. And I know this is exactly as it happened, Sandy, because when I went\nIsrael twenty years ago, I met my mother's girlhood friend. And ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she sat there. I\nspoke English, her daughter-in-law spoke to her in Hebrew, and the friend Paula\nturned around and spoke to me in Yiddish. I mean, this is how they made the\ncircle. But she told me the exact story, the same beautiful story of how they\nmet. My father set up in a hotel, which is what he would do when he would go\ninto one of these little towns.\n\nLEFF: And the year, do you know what year it was?\n\nARNOLD: 1920.\n\nLEFF: 1920. Okay.\n\nARNOLD: 1920. They were married in '21. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he contacted the people for whom he\nhad money, packages, whatever. And Paula's family were one of them. And she was\nto come to the hotel to pick up for her parents.\n\nLEFF: And you said Paula's?\n\nARNOLD: Paula.\n\nLEFF: Who . . .?\n\nARNOLD: That's my mother's friend.\n\nLEFF: Okay.\n\nARNOLD: Alright. So, Paula said, \"I can't go to a hotel alone to meet this man.\nI mean, that just isn't done.\" And she said to my mother, who was her best\nfriend, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Please, will you go with me?\" And they did. And father said he was\nlying back on his chaise lounge in the hotel room, very relaxed with his, you\nknow, shirt open. And they came into the room and he saw the most exquisite\nvision he had ever seen in his life, and he immediately just fell in love with\nher. He said it was love at first sight.\n\nLEFF: It gives me goosebumps.\n\nARNOLD: He jumped up from his lounge and he straightened his tie. He ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tightened\nit up, and he made himself very presentable. And after he transacted the\nbusiness with Paula, he said, \"By the way, ladies, I have tickets for the\nconcert tonight, and I would be very honored if you'd be my guest.\" Well, Paula\nwho was engaged said yes, she accepted with her fiancé, and my mother said\nshe'd have to ask her parents.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: And if the answer was yes, she would love to go. And they left. He\nsays, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I quickly ran downstairs and bought whatever tickets there were to\nwhatever was . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Oh, because he didn't have the arrangements.\n\nARNOLD: [Laughs] And he didn't leave until she consented to marry him, and he\njust stayed in the city for . . . six months before she . . .\n\nLEFF: . . .To win her over?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh, uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: How do you like that. And convinced her not only to marry him but to leave\nher country and her family . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . That's right . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . and to come to the United States.\n\nARNOLD: That's right.\n\nLEFF: To Atlanta, no less.\n\nARNOLD: He surely did. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1350.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, if you had known him, you wouldn't be surprised\nhe would be capable of doing that. But, after that, he did bring her whole\nfamily. He brought many people, many, many people to this country. He was\nwalking down the street one day in New York, and someone walked by him and did a\ndoubletake, you know, \"Sam Gershon?\" And he says, \"You brought me to this\ncountry and I lost touch with you, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I must . . . take you in a store. I must\nbuy you something. I must do something.\" And these kinds of things happened . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Happened all of his life?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh, uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: You have a picture or a newspaper article about them when they got married?\n\nARNOLD: This was in the Atlanta Constitution. August 6, 1921. That's when they\ncame back to this country. They were married in May, and he took her on a\nwhirlwind ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"honeymoon Europe. But this is a long article, but it's a beautiful,\nwonderful thing that you might want to just peruse it some other time.\n\nLEFF: I'd love to.\n\nARNOLD: When the tape's not running.\n\nLEFF: \"Sam Gershon Wins Bride While in War-torn Poland.\" And it tells the story.\nWell, he must have been pretty well known here in Atlanta . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Yeah, he was . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . to have a picture and an article like this written about him in the\nAtlanta Constitution.\n\nARNOLD: Well, he went back and forth. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the article, you'll find, it's really\nalso an interview about the conditions in Europe at the time and his opinions\nand so forth. And it was quite a . . . he was quite a man, Sam. He really was.\nHe was a wonderful person.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh. I know you were very proud . . .\n\nARNOLD: And you said find out about parents and grandparents. In this case, he\nwas my . . . he was a parent and a grandparent . . .\n\nLEFF: Grandparent, uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: . . . which is a very close relationship. If I did anything good in my\nlife, it was to please him. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, that was--we just kind of . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Well, he was a wonderful role model, wasn't he?\n\nARNOLD: That's right.\n\nLEFF: I mean, in terms of his . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . His [inaudible] . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . community outreach and his concern for others. So, this young couple\ncame to Atlanta. He had several successful stores here already. Is that right?\nDry goods stores at that time.\n\nARNOLD: Right, right.\n\nLEFF: And where did they settle, do you know?\n\nARNOLD: Their first . . . 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She always\nregretted not having had education because her education had been interrupted,\nyou know, during the First World War, and there really was no schooling for\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"children her age.\n\nLEFF: Was she a seamstress or did she have any skill like that?\n\nARNOLD: No . . . she was the smartest women I've ever met, she really was. And\nyet she did not know she was.\n\nLEFF: She had no opportunity.\n\nARNOLD: She had the most amazing mind. She could just grasp anything. But, no,\nas far as . . . she never worked out of the home, except to help my father in business.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh. So, she did help him?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh. 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Elinor passed away in 1988.\n\nLEFF: So, she was the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"oldest . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Uh-huh . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . in your family, really.\n\nARNOLD: Right. She was.\n\nLEFF: And then . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . And then she had another child, Hilda Lee, who died at age four. I\nnever knew her.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh. Okay. And then . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . And then my brother, Herbert Gershon.\n\nLEFF: And he . . .\n\nARNOLD: He lives here in Atlanta.\n\nLEFF: Atlanta. And then . . .\n\nARNOLD: Elaine Beeber, B-E-E-B-E-R.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: Elaine Gershon Beeber.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: And does she live in Atlanta?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, she lives in Atlanta.\n\nLEFF: So, everybody has stayed right here.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: That's wonderful for you and are they both involved with AA synagogue . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Yeah . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . or Shearith Israel.\n\nARNOLD: My whole family is AA.\n\nLEFF: With the AA synagogue. You've all stayed there. So, they had these\nchildren, which must have kept your mother very busy then. 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So, they had come back from . . . they had this store in\nCarrollton, but then they came back to Atlanta?\n\nARNOLD: Yes, we moved to Carrollton when I was nine months old, and we stayed\nthere for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about three years until daddy got things going. And then moved back to\nAtlanta. At that time, we moved to Mentelle Drive.\n\nLEFF: So, that was after Atlanta Avenue or before . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . .Yeah, after Atlanta Avenue.\n\nLEFF: Men, M -\n\nARNOLD: M-E-N-T-E-L-L-E.\n\nLEFF: And where was that, in what area of town?\n\nARNOLD: It's on Parkway, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2010.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Charles Allen Drive . . . it used to be called Parkway,\nnow it's called Charles Allen, Eighth Street.\n\nLEFF: Oh, okay.\n\nARNOLD: Grant Place, all those . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Do you have to get that? It's probably a good time.\n\nARNOLD: I can let it ring. Harold or Scott will bring it in there.\n\nLEFF: Okay. Okay. So, you moved back to Mentelle Drive.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. And that was . . . that's where my earliest memories are.\n\nLEFF: That's the first house that you remember?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: What's your earliest memory as a child?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARNOLD: I went back to that house a month or two ago.\n\nLEFF: Is that right?\n\nARNOLD: And had . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . It's still standing? . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . And the person there let me come in. It was quite an experience,\nbecause there are lots of good memories there. Next door lived Jack Levine.\nRemember . . . you didn't know Jack Levine? Oscar Leblowsky's mentor.\n\nLEFF: Oh.\n\nARNOLD: Jack Levine was, in those days, Jack was a young man right out of\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"medical school trying to be an OB/GYN, but there was no popularity for\nspecialists in those days. He couldn't make it. And he lived there in that house\nwith his mother, and he became just a family practitioner. And we adored him. My\nfamily adored him, and he was our doctor and our confidante and our friend. He\nwas everything. We loved him to pieces. And I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2100.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think that's where I first\ndeveloped a crush on doctors. [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: Oh. We're tracing that early on.\n\nARNOLD: That's right.\n\nLEFF: Right, how that came about. So, as a child, do you remember--what's the\nfirst thing you remember? Do you remember an event with him or do you remember\nsomething at school or at the services?\n\nARNOLD: Well, as a child, what do I remember? I remember . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Was it a happy childhood?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, yes. 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In one room? . . .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARNOLD: . . . Stayed in one room. And I can remember vividly all of those\nthings, and who was where. I went to Clark Howell School for kindergarten and\nfirst grade. And in that neighborhood, everybody lived there. I mean, everybody\nthat moved to the South Side lived in that neighborhood.\n\nLEFF: Would you say mostly Jewish people?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, it was . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Was it a very ethnic . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . 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We're back to talking about the Second World War and the effect that it had on your family.\n\nARNOLD: Well, and then we moved back to Carrollton because my father's help in\nthe store--who stayed with him for the rest of their lives, by the way--they\nwent away to the army, they came back, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then forty, fifty years, they worked\nfor him. Anyhow, they went to the army and we had to move to Carrollton, so\nDaddy could be able to run the store.\n\nLEFF: I see.\n\nARNOLD: And that was . . . so that really - that's really where life began for\nme was Carrollton. I loved it, I loved it. You know, you're a little girl and .\n. . I think I was starting the second grade, and that's where you began making\nyour friendships and getting ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"established.\n\nLEFF: How far is Carrollton from Atlanta?\n\nARNOLD: It's only sixty-two miles.\n\nLEFF: Oh, that's right. You said sixty miles.\n\nARNOLD: Of course, in those days, that was a long trip, as far as, you know, the\ntwo-lane roads . . . Or one lane, you know, one way and one the other.\n\nLEFF: Did you have a car by then that you traveled back and forth . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . We had a car. My mother always did the driving. In fact, my mother\nalways did all the heavy work. She was very solicitous and protective of my father.\n\nLEFF: Because he was older?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh, uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: So, she learned to drive? She ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really did become . . .\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh, he taught her to drive.\n\nLEFF: . . . adapt . . .\n\nARNOLD: Oh, she was a modern woman. In fact, he would work very hard in the\nstore. In those days, Saturday night the store would be open until close to midnight.\n\nLEFF: Wow.\n\nARNOLD: And then Sunday morning, we would pile in the car and come in for Sunday\nschool. And mother would, while we were in Sunday school, she would go to the\nkosher butcher and get all of her food. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometimes we would drive in with the\nlive chickens and ducks and take them back dead. It was horrible. [Laughs] It\nwas absolutely awful.\n\nLEFF: So that's one of your earliest memories.\n\nARNOLD: You know, I never did like chicken. [Laughs] I mean, honest, I'm not\nkidding you. Oh, it was dreadful. But she'd take them to the shochet, Mr.\nParkman, on Washington Street. It was the Kaufmans and a Wonpouner [sp.] and\nthen I think Stein was in the middle and then . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Now, Stein was . . .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARNOLD: . . . Another grocery. And then Mr. Siegel. And she stayed loyal to him\nforever because he had been so good to them and giving them credit when they\nneeded it. And that's . . . you talk about memories, I can still taste it when\nwe would go there on Sunday. And, of course as a little girl, I wanted\neverything I saw. And to distract me, Mr. Siegel would bring me over to the\ncorned beef machine where he sliced it, and he would let me run my finger on the\n. . . you know, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2400.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the little pieces that fall off when they're slicing corned\nbeef. Nothing has ever tasted that good since. I mean, it was marvelous, the\nlittle pieces of corned beef that would fall.\n\nLEFF: And they would be yours.\n\nARNOLD: That was mine. So, she would pack up in dry ice all the kosher meats,\nand we would load up the groceries and head for Carrollton. And on the way home,\nit would be usually ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the radio, it would be things like Fibber Magee and Molly.\nIt would be . . . have you ever heard of Fibber Magee's closet, Sandy, or are\nyou too young?\n\nLEFF: Yes. Oh, yes. I've heard of it.\n\nARNOLD: Or \"One Man's Family,\" Walter Winchell, \"Good Morning Mr. and Mrs.\nAmerica.\" I mean, you could tell where you were by which program was coming on.\nBut the drive usually took about four good programs, so they needed to\n[inaudible]. And that was the Sunday routine. My father would go, of course, to\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Progressive Club and play poker.\n\nLEFF: On Sundays?\n\nARNOLD: He was a big poker player.\n\nLEFF: They played on Sundays?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, yes. Sunday morning, we'd be dropped to Sunday School, my father\nwould be dropped . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . And the men would play poker?\n\nARNOLD: He would be dropped at the Progressive Club to play poker, and then\nmother would go shop.\n\nLEFF: Where was the Progressive Club at that time?\n\nARNOLD: At that time, it was over where Turner Broadcasting is now. You know,\nover on Tenth and Techwood.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: That's where it was.\n\nLEFF: So, you were not unhappy to have ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"left your early friends in Atlanta . . .\n\nARNOLD: No.\n\nLEFF: . . . that you had down on Mentelle Drive, and to go to Carrollton?\n\nARNOLD: No, because my main friends, even then, were family. Fanny's son,\nHarold, was near my age. Bob and Sara, and Herbert London lived right around the\ncorner. All the Jewish kids were around there. It was fun. And we would see them\nanyhow. When we came out on Sundays . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . On Sundays. And you were kind of out in the country . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . visiting family.\n\nLEFF: Would you say Carrollton was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out in the country?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah.\n\nLEFF: Were there Jewish people in Carrollton?\n\nARNOLD: No children.\n\nLEFF: No children? So, where you went to grammar school . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . There were a few older couples, but not many.\n\nLEFF: You went to grammar school there, and you didn't have Jewish friends.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-uh.\n\nLEFF: And how long did you remain in Carrollton?\n\nARNOLD: Until I was thirteen. That was our routine, back and forth until then.\nAnd the year or two before we moved to Atlanta, my parents bought a house so\nthey could come in, a little small house on Vedado Way so they could . . .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: . . . On the . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . .Vedado, V-E-D-A-D-O. A little small house with a white picket fence\naround it. [Laughs] And that was so my sister Elinor who had gotten out of\ncollege would have a place to live in Atlanta, and also so we could come in on\nSaturday night instead of Sunday morning. That was the big, big improvement. But\nI have a theory, Sandy, growing up in a small town, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as many Jewish people did in\nthe south, and being one of very few Jewish people or no Jewish people, does\nalmost as much to keep you . . . I think in keeping one Jewish as being in a\nheavily populated Jewish area. It's the in-between where I think you become threatened.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh. But you knew you had to maintain your identity.\n\nARNOLD: Our identity was very, very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"strong.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: I mean, extremely strong. I can remember my mother always having a\nHanukkah party in Carrollton, and whatever few elderly people lived there would\ncome over for the Hanukkah party and would take latkes and all that went with\nit. And Daddy would light the candles. And always I was on exhibition, you know.\nIt was \"Come here, darling,\" \"Come here, baby.\" I was the baby. And with\neveryone around me, tell the story. Why do we celebrate Hanukkah, you know. And\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":". . . I never thought those people were groaning, oh no, here they go again.\nBecause I was so delighted to do this. It was something that gave them such\npride and I thought I was just the cat's meow to be able to do that sort of thing.\n\nLEFF: [Laughs] Well, I'm sure you were. We're going to take a little break and\nturn the tape over.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: Okay. This is Sandy Leff and this is Side Two of my interview with Phyllis\nArnold. Again, the date is October sixth, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1994. And we were talking about\ncelebrating Jewish holidays and what Phyllis remembers. She was telling us about\nHanukkah. What else do you remember about celebrating Jewish holidays?\n\nARNOLD: We were . . . in those days living in Carrollton what you'd call today\n[inaudible] because, you know, not living in town, we didn't come in for Simchas\nTorah and Pesach and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all the festivals that now and in the years I was bringing\nup my children would take them to synagogue for.\n\nLEFF: And of course, you didn't come in on Saturday morning because that was a\nbusiness day.\n\nARNOLD: That's right, exactly. We were strictly--Sunday School was very\nimportant, and to study and to do well in Sunday School just as you were\nexpected to do in secular school. It was not . . . it was serious with my\nparents, the education. And ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2730.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the holidays were always big events. My relatives\nfrom Atlanta would come to Carrollton for Pesach, the Goldstein family.\n\nLEFF: Oh, so your family, your parents would do the holidays?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah.\n\nLEFF: Even though you were in Carrollton . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . That's right . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . they all came from Atlanta?\n\nARNOLD: Well, the Goldstein family would all come from Atlanta to do the\nholidays. And by this time, Fanny Goldstein had a family the same age as my\nfather's family ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2760.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":". . . In fact, all of Fanny's children were older than I am,\nwhich I think is interesting.\n\nLEFF: Interesting, yes.\n\nARNOLD: I was an aunt before I was born, see.\n\nLEFF: That is incredible.\n\nARNOLD: But . . . so they would come, and the London family didn't come for\nholidays, but they would visit back and forth. For the summer time, they'd come\ndown there and stay a few days. The Feldman girls would do it. Now, Eunice Stein\nand ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2790.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Frieda Socol, I don't know if you . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Socol? S-O-\n\nARNOLD: S-O-C-O-L. Anyhow, they would come. And it was just a fun way to live.\nBut, you know, holidays were always celebrated. Although it's funny, when I\nfirst went to Simchas Torah in Atlanta as a mother of my own children, I was\njust stunned at what happened. And when I went over to Beth Jacob one evening to\na service . . . I mean, it was sheer bedlam. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everybody was so happy and\ncelebrating and singing and dancing. And I went home, and I told . . . my father\nwas at my house when I arrived, and I said, \"Do you know what I just saw?\" And\nhe says, \"Well, that's exactly the way it's supposed to be.\" And I realized then\nthere was a wealth of things . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . You hadn't experienced . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . that anybody's parent has experienced that you never know about. I\nmean, there are so many things that looking back . . . if you only knew which\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2850.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"questions to ask, you know.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: It was an interesting phenomenon.\n\nLEFF: Your dad lived until he was . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Ninety-one . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . quite old. That's wonderful. So, he lived here in Atlanta?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah.\n\nLEFF: With you? Did he ever live with you?\n\nARNOLD: No. No, no, no, no. My parents were always independent.\n\nLEFF: Great. Well, but getting back. So, you had those about ten years, was it\nten? Eight years that you had in Carrollton, away?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. And it was . . . 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She always had these, you know, help in the house\nthat knew as much or more about it than most Jewish people do. She taught them\nwell. She was a wonderful cook. But they were both European, they both spoke, I\nam told, with heavy accents, particularly my father. I didn't hear accents, you\nknow. But . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Did they speak Russian when they didn't want you to understand something?\n\nARNOLD: No, no. Yiddish, Yiddish.\n\nLEFF: No? Yiddish.\n\nARNOLD: Yiddish. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They did not speak Russian. My father wanted to be an American.\nThis was the most marvelous, wonderful country in the world.\n\nLEFF: And yet he married a woman from Russia.\n\nARNOLD: Oh, but he loved this country like nothing else. And when he was ninety\nyears old, he - and feeble, he did not miss going to vote. I mean, this was the\nmost marvelous privilege to be had was to vote, to have a voice.\n\nLEFF: We always ask people if they feel like their parents' values were\ntransmitted to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them, and knowing you a little bit, I think they really were.\nYour feeling . . . you have been involved . . .\n\nARNOLD: Well . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . with the Democratic Party. You're going to a Planned Parenthood\nmeeting, you just told me. And you're involved in synagogue today. So . . .\n\nARNOLD: Well, yeah. I think that very definitely values have transmitted.\nSometimes we don't think it's happening, but it does, obviously. But, the good\nand the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bad. [Laughs] No, those are the values that I think meant so much to\nthem both, so I mean English was the language spoken. And yet, Sandy, they in\nthis little town where there weren't Jews and there was nothing Jewish about it,\ntheir identity as Jews was so important. When we were closing the store a couple\nof years ago, it's amazing how people came in, so many people, with stories\nabout what they did, what my father and mother did ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for them.\n\nLEFF: To help them, you mean?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh, farmers and people that he gave things on credit to . . . people\nhe gave things to at no cost because he was just . . . they were good people.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: And I don't mean to make saints out of them, that's not what I'm\nintending to do here. 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What do you remember about services at the synagogue?\n\nARNOLD: Well, services were on Washington Street . . . where it was at that time.\n\nLEFF: Rabbi Epstein was there already?\n\nARNOLD: Rabbi Epstein. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Very formal services and very dignified.\n\nLEFF: The men and women sit . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Men and women were separated.\n\nLEFF: . . . separate at that time.\n\nARNOLD: Upstairs was the women's section, and I would sit there with my . . . We\nhad a bench where we always sat, the same bench whenever we were there. My\nmother and my sisters and I. 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But anyhow, that's immaterial.\nAnd downstairs, of course, at the same pew, I can still see my father and his\nbrother and the brother's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sons and my brother sitting there. And the men all had\non felt hats. There were no yarmulkes. They wore . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Really . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . felt hats. And . . . when I see an old photograph with that, it's\nvery nostalgic.\n\nLEFF: So, you looked down on these brimmed hats?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh, uh-huh. And we'd see the cantors stand in the center of the\nsynagogue and the rabbi would . . .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: . . . Like Beth Jacob today, then?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, exactly, exactly.\n\nLEFF: Because it was more religious . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Yeah, yeah . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . more traditional at that time.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: And do you remember any stories about Rabbi Epstein? Did you have a\nrelationship with him in those early years?\n\nARNOLD: Well, yes and no. [Laughs] Rabbi Epstein was a man to be admired. 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Rabbi\nEpstein didn't cotton to young people too much, and as years go by and the\nvarious classes came up, whether it was a graduating class or a confirmation\nclass . . . well, maybe Rabbi ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Epstein should have left that to the assistant\nrabbi to do because he had very little patience with any disruption. And when\nyou've got a bunch of teenagers, there's going to be some.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: I was never a victim of his wrath personally, but I was a witness to it.\n[Laughs] And it was most uncomfortable.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh. Well, you weren't a cut-up or anything like that because you took\nit very seriously.\n\nARNOLD: No, I wasn't a cut-up, no. Probably missed a lot of fun, Sandy.\n\nLEFF: [Laughs] Well, your parents, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like you said, said this was serious\nbusiness. Did you have a bat mitzvah?\n\nARNOLD: No.\n\nLEFF: No. Girls didn't have . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Well, they weren't . . . I think a couple may have just started\naround that time, but no. I really had no Hebrew education because of . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . 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And I can remember singing, \"God Bless America.\" [Laughs] And I don't remember much else about it, except it was my brother's bar mitzvah and a very happy . . .\n\nLEFF: And you were--how much younger are you?\n\nARNOLD: I am six years younger.\n\nLEFF: So, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you were about six or seven?\n\nARNOLD: . . . Uh-huh . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . when you did that?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh. [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: Well, you must have been adorable.\n\nARNOLD: But . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . The apple of your daddy's eye, it sounds like.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah.\n\nLEFF: Yeah?\n\nARNOLD: That's what it boils down to. 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But those were Elaine's two best friends,\nand she would come to them and spend the night. She just got so tired of being .\n. . she felt like such a nomad, and it was time. It was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time for the family to\nconsider moving, and we did. And she cried to move to Atlanta and I cried to\nstay in Carrollton, but she won out on that deal.\n\nLEFF: And so, at age thirteen . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . We moved . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . you were uprooted, so to speak.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh. I was terrified, Sandy. I was terrified of this town, of this\ncity, moving here. I was very shy, and just scared. It was a big change.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh, right. To the big city.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: Comfort in knowing everybody, I guess, in that small little town. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where\ndid you move to?\n\nARNOLD: Vedado Way.\n\nLEFF: Vedado Way, in that little house. And did you have your own room by then?\n\nARNOLD: No.\n\nLEFF: You were still sharing your room. So, what do you remember about Atlanta\nthen? Did you go to movies? Did you . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Well . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . go to . . . I mean, what kind of activities?\n\nARNOLD: I went to Henry Grady High School. That was the first year that Henry\nGrady was co-ed. It had been Boys' High. And they made it co-ed, so that class\nwas the first class that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"started in the eighth grade and went to Grady. And\nVedado Way . . . I lived about three houses from the school. That's what I\nremember the most. I could sleep an extra fifteen minutes in the morning. [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: So, it was down . . . Grady High School, the same . . .\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. Over there on Sixth -- is it Parkway Drive? Charles Allen, by\nPiedmont Park.\n\nLEFF: Park, uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tenth Street borders it from one side.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh. And so that's where you started in eighth grade . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . That's right, uh-huh . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . when you moved here?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah.\n\nLEFF: And you lived around the corner?\n\nARNOLD: Well, less than around the corner. [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: You opened . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . A stone's throw, that's right.\n\nLEFF: You could open the school in the morning.\n\nARNOLD: That's right, exactly. And Grady was very Jewish. I met a lot of Jewish\nkids that went there.\n\nLEFF: What percentage would you say?\n\nARNOLD: Well, I would guess there had to have been ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"maybe twenty-five, thirty\npercent Jewish.\n\nLEFF: Percent Jewish?\n\nARNOLD: I think so. And that's a guess, but I would think so.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: It was . . . I can remember going to the lunchroom and not knowing\nanybody and being just mortified that I would have to sit by myself. 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I mean, it was very much like the BBG chapters except we\nwere not affiliated with BBG.\n\nLEFF: What did ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3630.0,3660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DOZ stand for?\n\nARNOLD: Daughters of Zion.\n\nLEFF: Oh, Daughters -- okay.\n\nARNOLD: My sister was already a member, and so they were the Alpha Club, and\nthey took in a Beta Club which I joined. And you had to be in invited in to do\nit, see. But I was a legacy. After I left, it was already there. And all of my\nfriends came from that, and they are to this day, to a great ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"degree.\n\nLEFF: People like . . .?\n\nARNOLD: Like Babs Levitas, Babs Hillman Levitas; Jane Lewis Axelrod, Elinor\nRittenbaum who passed away a good many years ago now with breast cancer. She was\nElinor Carl. And Margie Shure.\n\nLEFF: How do you spell that?\n\nARNOLD: S-H-U-R-E. I'm just thinking of some of the names that are ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"still--oh,\nJean Goldstein.\n\nLEFF: So, you met at the Jewish Community Center?\n\nARNOLD: Well . . . our meetings were either at the Jewish Alliance . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Alliance at that time . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . or at . . . our private homes, we would meet.\n\nLEFF: What was the purpose? Was it just social?\n\nARNOLD: Well, it was a social club, but like all . . . you have to have a reason\nfor being. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we did things. I remember . . . one of the things was . . . we\nbelonged to the Youth Council in the city. And then all the kids' clubs belonged\nto AZA and BBG and the few independent clubs. We had a Youth Council in the city.\n\nLEFF: How was this different from BBG?\n\nARNOLD: It's not.\n\nLEFF: It's not. It was the same thing? It was . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . 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Yes.\n\nARNOLD: She was a member of DOZ, her group of friends.\n\nLEFF: So, would you belong ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3780.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to DOZ as opposed to BBG?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, yeah.\n\nLEFF: You would make a decision either . . .\n\nARNOLD: Exactly.\n\nLEFF: Was it supposed to be an honor to be invited into DOZ as opposed to . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Oh, yes . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . It had more status . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Yeah . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . as opposed to BBG here in . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . That's right. That's right, exactly. I mean, you know, in little\ngirl terms.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: In fact, I didn't . . . we did have blackballs and that sort of thing.\nIt was really, when you think back on it, it was awful.\n\nLEFF: Blackballs?\n\nARNOLD: Blackball . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Oh, like blackballing people.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah.\n\nLEFF: Yeah, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like a sorority.\n\nARNOLD: And people we would names were brought up and not everybody got in. And\nI have a friend today, who will remain nameless, who tells me how hurt she was\nby . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . That she wasn't asked?\n\nARNOLD: I didn't know her then. She's several years younger than I am. 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But we\nthought we were.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: We thought we were hot stuff, you know.\n\nLEFF: What kind of things do you remember doing?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, you mean other than social? [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: Social and . . .\n\nARNOLD: Oh, well, social was basketball at the Alliance. Basketball at the\nAlliance was the big highlight of the . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . The ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"girls played? . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Jewish youth activity in Atlanta. I mean, not just DOZ, but part\nof the basketball league. And the Alliance was over on Capitol Avenue. Are you\nfamiliar with what I'm talking about?\n\nLEFF: Tell me more about it.\n\nARNOLD: Alright. The Jewish Educational Alliance was on Capitol Avenue. And\nthere was an old building and getting over there was a hassle because everybody\nalready, in this group, lived on the north side of town. And . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . North side of town being Grady High School?\n\nARNOLD: That's right.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: That was the north side of town then?\n\nARNOLD: Right, that's right. That was the north side of town. And Johnson Road,\nthat area in there, do you know where I'm talking . . . which is now Midtown really.\n\nLEFF: Right, right.\n\nARNOLD: All of that area was in north side. A few had begun to move a little\nfurther out, Peachtree Battle, but not many. I mean, that was just a handful.\n\nLEFF: The Inmans.\n\nARNOLD: Right. But, I mean, Sussex Road, Berkshire, Johnson, those are the\nstreets that everybody lived on. But we stayed on Vedado. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3930.0,3960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyhow, the Alliance\nwas the focal point . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Down on Capitol Avenue . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . 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And they had a basketball league, the guys\nand the girls.\n\nLEFF: So, did you go to watch the guys play?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, always, always. Most definitely. And we'd go by [inaudible] or play.\nI was not a basketball player. I was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3990.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"much too clumsy to play basketball. I just\ncouldn't do it. But I always was there, and my friends all played. I mean, gosh,\nElinor and Jane, they were mean on the basketball court. Barbara Orkin was in\nour group, and she was a good basketball player. Anyhow, we had a lot of fun.\n\nLEFF: And you'd go there on Sundays?\n\nARNOLD: And we'd spend Sunday at the Alliance. It was just the thing to do. And\nas the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=4020.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Youth League became a very important thing in the city at that time . . .\nat least, it was important to me because I became active in that. It was like\nthe student council of the social aspect of being a young Jewish teenager. And .\n. .\n\nLEFF: . . . The Youth League?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah . . . I don't know any other name for it now, Youth Council,\nwhatever. 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It's been a very, very important\nissue in my life, in my formulation.\n\nLEFF: So, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=4320.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did you . . .\n\nARNOLD: No, it was even in these years. There were things being done. I can't\nremember what exactly now, but there were things that we did about that, you\nknow, as a group. And there were things we did. We used to go, some of us would\ngo . . . and we did these things individually and we did them in the group. We'd\ngo to . . . at that time, Scottish Rite had a hospital over . . . a little small\nplace, almost like a little residence center . . . around Juniper Street. 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Just a couple\nof us just did it.\n\nLEFF: So, would you say most people did not get involved in community outreach\nlike you?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=4380.0,4410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARNOLD: Not most. I mean, some of these gals were already dating at thirteen or\nfourteen, and then were married. So, their lives were a little bit different in\nthat respect. Then . . . I think everybody . . . it was a good group, nice group\nof people. Not always the most involved group, but a good group. 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And ne'er the twain shall meet.\n\nLEFF: Even at the Alliance, at this Youth Council that you were on?\n\nARNOLD: Well, they would all be . . . well, the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=4560.0,4590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Temple wasn't represented.\n\nLEFF: They had their own thing?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, they had their own thing. But the Ashkenazi and the Sephardic\ncommunities did both have representatives. And the boys seemed to mix more than\nthe girls did. And I don't just mean DOZ girls. I mean, but there just wasn't a\nlot of mixing. Thank goodness there was some. I think I had some friends -- Babs\nHillman ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=4590.0,4620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Levitas did, but other than that, there weren't a lot of us who mixed.\nAnd it was a shame, because too bad . . . that came later. And of course, now\nsome of your most active leaders in the community are from the Sephardic community.\n\nLEFF: Right. So, that was one bad thing then.\n\nARNOLD: That was one bad thing, and the other bad thing is we grew up too fast.\nAt fourteen, we were dating the college guys in town.\n\nLEFF: From Tech?\n\nARNOLD: Tech and Emory.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=4620.0,4650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: Jewish?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, always Jewish. Always Jewish.\n\nLEFF: How did you meet them?\n\nARNOLD: Well, they'd invite you to come to rush, which I never did. They had\nrush week for the freshman, and they would invite the girls in the city to come\nand be at the open house party and you'd meet people. I never did that. I\nthought that was kind of awful. I didn't like doing that. But you meet people.\nYou met them around. You just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=4650.0,4680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"met them, at parties.\n\nLEFF: Were there hang-outs? Was there a drugstore, soda fountains, places like\nthat, where you would go, the Varsity? I mean, where . . .\n\nARNOLD: The Varsity . . . nice girls did not go inside the Varsity. Everybody\nwent to the Varsity on a date, but strictly . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . to the drive-in?\n\nARNOLD: Yes, strictly to the drive-in. You just didn't go in. Women did not go\ninside the Varsity. It was frowned upon.\n\nLEFF: I see.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh. But as far as hang-outs, it'd be . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . 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After school, you wouldn't all go any place around Grady where you\nall would meet after school or anything like that?\n\nARNOLD: No. Unless it was my house.\n\nLEFF: Was that a focal point, your house . . .\n\nARNOLD: Yeah.\n\nLEFF: Because it was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=4710.0,4740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"close to school and . . .\n\nARNOLD: And my sister was only three years older than I, so she had her group of\nfriends there and my group of friends there. So, there was always a lot of kids\nat my house.\n\nLEFF: And how did you feel about being Jewish at that time?\n\nARNOLD: I've loved being Jewish all my life. I really have. 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It wasn't exactly\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5010.0,5040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wonderful for me that night. And I think that I was resented by the Temple girls\nthat night because I was . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Chosen? . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . chosen, yeah. So that was not a particularly high point . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Happy memory.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, it was not a happy one. The other social things were great fun. I\nmean by being Sweetheart 518, the silly time.\n\nLEFF: Yeah, now tell me about that again. You were Sweetheart of AZA 518.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, which was a chapter. And I wanted to play 518 in the Lottery, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5040.0,5070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and\ndon't you know it came up the other night.\n\nLEFF: And you never played it?\n\nARNOLD: I never played it. [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: That'll teach you.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh. I need to be more loyal, right. A dollar a day.\n\nLEFF: So, how did you get to be sweetheart of that chapter? They just . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . They present names . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . And voted?\n\nARNOLD: And the guys vote. And you have a sweetheart and a court in those days.\nAnd just like the fraternities do, same thing.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: And we were playing, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5070.0,5100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not house, we were playing fraternity and sorority\nin those days. But 518 was a nice group of guys.\n\nLEFF: Like who? Who do you remember?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, Harris Jacobs, Jerry Rittenbaum, Larry Greenberg, Earl Greenberg,\nthey were twins, Freddy Seligman. Oh, golly, who else? 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Westin Peachtree Plaza is?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, yeah, that's where it was. And the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5190.0,5220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paradise Room was, I guess\nyou'd call it a night club. You know, you would go, and in fact I said to\nsomebody recently, \"What did we drink when we went there?\" We did not drink alcohol.\n\nLEFF: Drink liquor, I was going to ask.\n\nARNOLD: I mean, I don't know what we drank. And they must have hated to see us\ncoming . . . [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: . . . Cherry cokes . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . You know, the owners. Yeah. I guess that the guys sometimes would\nhave a drink, if they . . . I don't remember anybody . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Did you smoke? 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I almost ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5310.0,5340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"forgot those.\nThose were really [inaudible]. J.P. Allen was a very good place to shop.\nReganstein's was a little fuddy-duddy, a little older.\n\nLEFF: Your mother might . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Yeah, that's right . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . shop there.\n\nARNOLD: That's right.\n\nLEFF: And through all this your mother . . . did she enjoy this, dressing you\nup, getting you . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . She loved it. And she . . . my family did not have any wealth in\nthose years, certainly, and in fact my father ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"built back from the Depression . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . The store in Carrollton?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, he built that store up. And the family was always comfortable, you\nknow, at that point. I never knew we didn't have anything. Do you know what I\nmean? When we didn't have it, I didn't know it.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: And my mother always just maintained a very lovely demeanor and a lovely\nkind of home. 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I don't need anything.\" That would be her\nattitude about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5400.0,5430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things. But she was very sweet. But this was actually . . . this\nwas a privileged group of girls, I will say that. The big thing was to have an\noccasional sweater. [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: Well, we are coming to the end of the tape, so we'll talk a little more\nabout the social scene in Atlanta next time, and then get on to your years in\ncollege and . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Sounds good to me . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . and married life, and how you met your husband and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5430.0,5460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all that.\n\nARNOLD: I met Joe during those years.\n\nLEFF: The early years? Oh, well, we'll have to pursue that next time, then. Okay?\n\nARNOLD: I feel like this is a lot of nothing.\n\nLEFF: It's very important so that people will know what it was like growing up,\nbecause this is what it was like growing up here in Atlanta during those years,\nduring the fifties.\n\nARNOLD: Well, and the thing that probably made Atlanta so different as a town\nwere the colleges here.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5460.0,5490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: I see.\n\nARNOLD: And the fact that the . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . You mixed with the college students? . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . that the college guys were dating thirteen and fourteen-year-old girls.\n\nLEFF: Well, golly, we'll have to talk about that more next time.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, that was bad. That was not healthy.\n\nLEFF: Okay. Thank you, Phyllis. This is Sandy Leff, and I am conducting my\nsecond interview with Phyllis Gershon Arnold for the Jewish Oral History Project\nof Atlanta, co-sponsored by the American Jewish Committee, the Atlanta Jewish\nFederation, and the National ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5490.0,5520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Council of Jewish Women. The date today is\nThursday, December first, 1994, and we are currently in Phyllis's home at 2625\nMercedes Drive in Atlanta. And I see Phyllis has accumulated lots of materials\nsince I was here last time, so she can elaborate on some things. Phyllis, did\nyou want to start on some special . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Well . . . what I really want ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5520.0,5550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to start with is I was thinking a\nlot . . . I went to the reunion at the Jewish History.\n\nLEFF: You're talking about the Creating Community Exhibit?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, Creating Community Exhibit. A week ago, Sunday night, they had the\nreunion of Atlanta clubs.\n\nLEFF: Did that jar a lot of memories for you?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, it really did. It really did. A lot of memories, not only from the\nvideo which was marvelous, and the exhibit ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5550.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which was wonderful. I mean, I think\neverything that's been done there is outstanding. And for the group of people\nthat have put time and effort into something that's just turned out beautifully.\nAnd, but that day, you didn't need videos or pictures or anything, it was\npeople. It was just full of everybody in the know. Everybody was there. And\nalthough you see these people in Atlanta frequently, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5580.0,5610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seeing everybody together\nfor the reason that everybody was there was a very, very emotional experience\nfor me. And they were taking the pictures of all the clubs, all the teenage\nclubs that we had, individual pictures, they would group people together, after\nthe videos. And that was fun. That was really nice.\n\nLEFF: Phyllis, I just thought of something . . . is that your dishwasher . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Let me turn it off . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . in the background? Do you mind?\n\nARNOLD: Not a bit.\n\nLEFF: I'll remind ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5610.0,5640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you before I leave -\n\nARNOLD: Let me get it. Okay.\n\nLEFF: Phyllis, thank you for turning off the dishwasher. [Laughs] And now we're\nback talking about Creating Community, the Jews of Atlanta, 1845 to the present.\nAnd you were telling us about your visit there.\n\nARNOLD: Well, you just see, it's on tape, Sandy. I do wash dishes. [Laughs] I do\nsometimes do something domestic around here. Anyhow, it was a wonderful evening.\nAnd ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5640.0,5670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everybody was so happy to see everybody else. It was almost like it was this\nhuge family reunion. And it was just great. It was a wonderful evening. And\nhearing about a lot of it made me think about how many of the things that were\nbeing said on the video by, well, Lyons Joel particularly, I guess, was my contemporary.\n\nLEFF: Now, what is that name again?\n\nARNOLD: Lyons Joel. And in the video . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . 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I started thinking about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5790.0,5820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the things that really influenced\nme, and I feel like I'm rambling.\n\nLEFF: No, it's good.\n\nARNOLD: But one of the big influences in my life originally, and I wonder about\nother people who are my age, was the Second World War. Second World War really,\nreally formed a lot of feelings. I can remember that was . . . I'm going back,\nnow, of course, before the teenage years and then this ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5820.0,5850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time was the time I lived\nin Carrollton. That was in . . . the War started in 1941, I was seven. And it\nwas a lot of patriotism, a lot of good feeling about this country.\n\nLEFF: For Jews as well as non-Jews?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: Jews felt very patriotic.\n\nARNOLD: You know, us kids would go out and collect scrap metal and tin foil and\nall the things for the war drive. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5850.0,5880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In school, we would buy savings stamps. They\nused to sell -- did you know they used to sell not just bonds, but you could buy\na book, like a green stamp book, except they were savings stamps. And you filled\nup the book with stamps, and when you got the book full . . . you could go turn\nthat in for a bond.\n\nLEFF: And children did that?\n\nARNOLD: Children did that. In school, usually . . . every week, you'd take your\nmoney to buy your savings stamps from the school.\n\nLEFF: Was that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5880.0,5910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"almost before you used to keep the little blue boxes for Israel?\n\nARNOLD: Well . . . no. Blue boxes were before that.\n\nLEFF: Before that?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, in Hadassah, blue boxes were always . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . They were always in your kitchen. Do you remember a blue box in your\nkitchen . . .?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, yeah. Always.\n\nLEFF: All the time?\n\nARNOLD: Always. Even living out of Atlanta, my mother had a blue box in the\nkitchen. That was just something you did.\n\nLEFF: In Carrollton and . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . If something good happened, you put the coin in the pushke. If\nsomething . . . not so good happened, you put a coin in the pushke. You know, it\nwas just something, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5910.0,5940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it was habit. I've got one. It's not sitting out but it's in\nthe Cabinet, but on Shabbos I put a coin in the pushke. You know, it's just habit.\n\nLEFF: Ingrained in you now.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh, uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: And so, you applied those same principles almost to saving for the war effort?\n\nARNOLD: Yes, and we would - in fact . . . we would have contests as I got a few\nyears older. We would go out in the community and try to sell bond, and you'd\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5940.0,5970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"receive prizes. I remember the year I received a prize. This was in Carrollton.\nI received a prize of a bond for selling the most bonds. It was . . . everything\nwas towards the war effort. The country, or at least that little town, was\nunited as one working together towards the war effort or for the war effort.\n\nLEFF: I know you told me last time you were so affected by the Holocaust, and\nthat that had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=5970.0,6000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"left its mark on you, you felt.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh, uh-huh. I think it did.\n\nLEFF: At the time, do you remember hearing stories? Did you know what was going on?\n\nARNOLD: To a degree. You knew that it was bad. You knew it was really bad for\nthe Jews. Yeah, you knew that.\n\nLEFF: Did you know about the immigrants that were being turned away from the . . .\n\nARNOLD: No, I did not personally. As a child, I never heard that. Of course,\nFranklin Roosevelt was the hero of my father's whole ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6000.0,6030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"life. I mean, he stacked\nright up there with Chaim Nahman Bialik and Shalom Aleichem and all of those\npeople that my father admired so much. But we would sit . . . I can still see\nthe chair and the radio and everybody . . . my father would sit in his chair\nwith the radio at his ear. We would all go, \"shh, shh,\" quiet, listening to\nFranklin Roosevelt's fireside chats. I mean, nobody ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6030.0,6060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"uttered a sound. That was a\nvery important moment in our family. I mean, if you ask people now, young\npeople, where were you when Kennedy was assassinated, they can tell you.\n\nLEFF: Right.\n\nARNOLD: Well, I can tell you exactly where I was when Roosevelt died.\n\nLEFF: Where were you?\n\nARNOLD: I was at the Ten Cent store on the Square in Carrollton with my\ngirlfriend. And when we heard that Roosevelt was dead, I knew I had to go home.\n\nLEFF: For your father?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh. 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It was good\nto be proud of your family, proud of your country, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6120.0,6150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"proud of your religion.\n\nLEFF: You said last time your dad was so pleased to be an American.\n\nARNOLD: Absolutely.\n\nLEFF: How did he feel about Harry Truman and the creation of the State of Israel\nin 1948?\n\nARNOLD: Just as enthusiastic. [Laughs] Very enthusiastic. I think that Truman\nreally captured the imagination and the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6150.0,6180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"total delight of little people, of\nordinary people.\n\nLEFF: Were people like Eleanor Roosevelt heroines to you?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, yeah. She came for the . . . I think it must have been a . . . I\ndon't remember the occasion. I know it was Jewish welfare of some kind, some\nkind of Jewish Federation. And the Tenth Street building . . . it was the AA\nSunday School building on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6180.0,6210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tenth Street, which is now a union building in\nAtlanta. You know, it borders the park. Tenth Street comes down to . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Oh, okay . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . to Piedmont. And there's a building there, one story, long . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . And that was the AA?\n\nARNOLD: That was the AA Sunday School building. And it . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . It wasn't on Washington Street?\n\nARNOLD: It was, but as people moved north, it was the annex.\n\nLEFF: So, they had the Sunday School on Tenth Street?\n\nARNOLD: The Sunday School took place on Tenth, and on the High Holy Days,\nservices were there. And ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6210.0,6240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that was for overflow, number one, and it also served\nthe need of people like my mother who didn't want to travel on the holidays, in\na car. So, we would walk. I would walk with her from Vedado Way to Tenth Street.\n\nLEFF: Vedado . . .?\n\nARNOLD: Vedado, which was a little street right near Henry Grady High School.\n\nLEFF: That's where you lived, right.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: Right.\n\nARNOLD: And we would walk to Tenth Street for services. And . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . And you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6240.0,6270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remember Eleanor Roosevelt coming one time?\n\nARNOLD: There was a big benefit of some kind held in the auditorium of that\nbuilding. And I was a little girl, and my parents took me. It was a dinner. I\ndon't . . . I know it was for some Jewish Federation, some charity, but I don't\nknow what, but she spoke. And it was very important to them that I be there.\nThey didn't usually ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6270.0,6300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"take me to things like that with them. But it was important\nto go just to see her.\n\nLEFF: What about Golda Meir or were there other heroines for you growing up?\n\nARNOLD: I don't think Golda Meir was, not growing up. Later.\n\nLEFF: Later.\n\nARNOLD: But not growing up, no. Were there other heroines or heroes at that time?\n\nLEFF: I mean, did you still hear . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Oh, let me think a minute. I guess Jane Addams was my hero, my\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6300.0,6330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all-time heroine. Jane Addams with her Hull Street Social House . . .\n\nLEFF: Social work.\n\nARNOLD: Settlement house, yeah.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh, social worker.\n\nARNOLD: She was my hero. I just . . . I wanted to grow up and be just like Jane\nAddams, which unfortunately, it didn't happen.\n\nLEFF: Well, I think you've done good in many ways. You've reached out, and we'll\nget to some of those ways a little bit later on.\n\nARNOLD: But . . . I'm trying to think, to answer your question, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6330.0,6360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sandy, and I\nguess really . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Your father?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, always, always. You know, this is kind of like the question that\nRabbi Goodman asked not long ago in one of his sermons . . . he raised, rather,\nabout the man in the field. Were you there?\n\nLEFF: Yes, absolutely, uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: Did you give that much thought?\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: I'm going to interview you. [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: I thought it was really interesting.\n\nARNOLD: It was a wonderful sermon, and . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . It was one of the best sermons.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: That was for the High Holy Days this year. Who was the man in the field\nfor you?\n\nARNOLD: The man in the field, uh-huh.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6360.0,6390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: And was that your father . . . the man in the field for you? You can have\nlots of men in the field, he said.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, I think at every stage of life, you could have different ones, I\nthink. Probably, I was lucky in that I loved my parents very much. And no\nhang-ups in that store. So . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . You were lucky.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, yeah. I was very lucky. And they were good. They were good people.\n\nLEFF: That's wonderful. Well, and I know ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6390.0,6420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you had a good example to follow: Jane\nAdams and your father and all that he had done. Did he continue? That was one of\nmy questions, did he continue to help the Russian community? Before you were\nborn, he went back there.\n\nARNOLD: He went there a lot.\n\nLEFF: And he did a lot for them. What about . . .\n\nARNOLD: He unfortunately . . . the Depression wiped him out of any kind of\nfinancial means. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6420.0,6450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And although he was never a wealthy man . . . he had made\nenough money to be secure. And at the time of the Depression, my father was a\nman of, you know, he was in his late fifties with an extremely young family. I\nwas born in 1934. My sister was born in 1931 and my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6450.0,6480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"brother a couple years\nbefore that. So, he had four very young children and he was and a young wife.\nAnd he was totally wiped out. So, I think he had to put his attentions and his\nefforts and his real labors into supporting his family at that time. And that's\nwhen we moved to Carrollton.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: I guess probably mostly what he did at that time, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6480.0,6510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he always headed up\nthe Welfare Drive for the small towns in the area where we lived, Jewish Welfare\nFund, and he raised the money for that. But as far as . . . it was called UJA at\nthat time, strictly UJA. It wasn't the . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . United Jewish Appeal.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. It wasn't . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Atlanta Jewish Federation.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, yeah, that's right. And so those are the kinds of things he did.\nNo, he was not able to continue his real work.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6510.0,6540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: Uh-huh. Well, I see you have a wonderful picture here that you said a good\nfriend of yours just sent you.\n\nARNOLD: Yes.\n\nLEFF: You want to tell me about it and describe it for the transcriber?\n\nARNOLD: Well, this is my glamour pose [Laughs] in 1951, and it was the\nSweetheart of Atlanta AZA 518.\n\nLEFF: That was the chapter.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. And it was from . . . one of the AZA chapters in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6540.0,6570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta. At that\ntime, it was 518, 134, and 357. I think there were several others at this date.\nBut Atlanta teenage social life really centered around clubs and sports, the\nAlliance, and friendships of that sort. It was a wonderful, wonderful time to\ngrow up in this city.\n\nLEFF: And a very good friend of yours, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6570.0,6600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Barbara . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Barbara Orkin sent this to me.\n\nLEFF: Is her name Barbara . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . .She was Barbara Hartman.\n\nLEFF: Barbara Hartman, okay.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh. And Barbara came in from a small town, just like we came from a\nsmall town, to Atlanta. We would gather in Atlanta on Sundays for Sunday School,\nthe kosher meat market, and all that. I think Barbara lived in Thomaston, I\nthink it was. So, she came from the south, and I came from the west, about sixty\nmiles each way.\n\nLEFF: And she saved this wonderful ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6600.0,6630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"picture of you . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . She saved this picture . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . this gorgeous gal. It says, \"Second to None.\" Do you think that was\nthe chapter or that was you . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . No, that was . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . that was second to none?\n\nARNOLD: I think that was an AZA conclave, and I believe they were sponsoring me\nfor the region.\n\nLEFF: Was that when you were Queen of Ballyhoo?\n\nARNOLD: No, that was something different.\n\nLEFF: That was something different. I understand you were Jewish Girl of the\nYear? Is that . . . you have some information about that?\n\nARNOLD: Well, that . . . no, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6630.0,6660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't have Jewish Girl of the Year information.\n\nLEFF: What did that mean? Do you . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . That was an award that was given by the adults of the community.\nAnd it was for the youngster who had contributed most as far as community\nservice in the town for the year. There was one boy, one girl.\n\nLEFF: Is that right? And that was during high school?\n\nARNOLD: That hasn't continued, I don't think. Well, in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6660.0,6690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"those days, we had a\nYouth Council, Sandy. All the clubs were individual, and then at the Alliance\nthere was a Council. And every club had representatives to that Council.\n\nLEFF: You told me a little bit about that last time. Was there a Welfare Fund\nfor you?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. We did that, too. By the way, I found this. I was going to check.\nRemember you asked me if DOZ had any significance other than a social club?\n\nLEFF: Right.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6690.0,6720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARNOLD: I had saved this. I didn't even know I had it until Barbara sent this\npicture. Then I started looking for what I had, and I found this. This is The\nDozer. It's the Tenth Anniversary of the club, and this is the year I was president.\n\nLEFF: You were president of DOZ one year?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: Is that the year that you won the award? I want to find out why . . . what\ndid you do that you won that award? That's what I want to know.\n\nARNOLD: What did I do?\n\nLEFF: I mean, you must have been very special of all the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6720.0,6750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"girls in the city to be\nchosen for that award.\n\nARNOLD: No, I mean, I think that it was the same kind of things that you do\ntoday as an adult. You work for Federation, you try to do a little charity, you\ntry to . . . those are the things that was done.\n\nLEFF: What was the charity work that . . . I mean, did you go to . . . will it\nexplain it in . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Maybe it was . . . it's not in here at all, but it does explain --\nwhat I wanted to bring this up about was the club: we were Club of the Month\nthis year. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6750.0,6780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were cited because of our \". . . service, cooperation and\nparticipation. We have chosen them the Youth Council's first Club of the Month.\"\nOkay . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . So, being chosen . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . The club.\n\nLEFF: That you were president of that year?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah . . . that was not the year I was chosen, but the club was chosen.\nAnd it's [inaudible] for those kinds of activities. So, it was the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6780.0,6810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"same kinds of\nactivities that individuals were chosen for.\n\nLEFF: But you don't remember specifically. It wasn't like going down to Grady as\na . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Well . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . and helping down there in the clinic or . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . These are the kinds of things that we did. We had our fun and our\nsocial, but here we have an article about charity.\n\nLEFF: Okay.\n\nARNOLD: And it says, \"Giving of charity is one of the first principles governing\nthe DOZ Club, Daughters of Zion. Of all our varied activities, we feel the most\nimportant ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6810.0,6840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are our charity projects.\" So, yes, there was always that component of\nwhatever we did. Whether we raised money for a . . . we may have raised money\nfor a banquet, but a portion of that money always went to a charity. And in this\nparticular year, we're talking about the Jewish Home for the aged . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Okay . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . that we gave to. It was a newly built haven at that time. And we\nhad sent, we say, a substantial . . . this was written by us, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6840.0,6870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh, right.\n\nARNOLD: It received a substantial portion of the allotted sum that we had to\ngive. And then I think I mentioned to you that we gave money to the Scottish\nRite Hospital, but that some of us went there and worked with the children.\nEvery Saturday we would go and work with the . . .\n\nLEFF: Isn't that interesting. You'd go on Saturday, Shabbat? Would that be . . .\n\nARNOLD: Well, that's right. That's right. We did . . . shul-going on Saturday,\nfor some reason, was not part of our agenda.\n\nLEFF: Is that right?\n\nARNOLD: Isn't that interesting?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6870.0,6900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: Yes.\n\nARNOLD: It was not there.\n\nLEFF: You felt very Jewish . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . It's changed . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . and you had Jewish friends, but . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Very much.\n\nLEFF: . . . Shabbot services . . .?\n\nARNOLD: No.\n\nLEFF: Did you go Friday night to services?\n\nARNOLD: No. No.\n\nLEFF: Did you have Friday night dinner at home?\n\nARNOLD: No, because my parents would be in Carrollton on Fridays.\n\nLEFF: Working.\n\nARNOLD: Working. They would go Friday night usually and spend the night there.\nAnd Saturday was a real work day in my family. It's interesting how Jewish one\ncan feel ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6900.0,6930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"without active synagogue going. I enjoy going to synagogue now. I don't\ndo it, you know, religiously. [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: Right. On a regular . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . I'm trying to say regular . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . On a regular basis.\n\nARNOLD: On a regular basis. I try to, but you know, it's a habit one forms like\nanything else. And when I'm on a roll, I go every week. And then something will\ninterrupt, and you go out of town.\n\nLEFF: It's easy to get out of it.\n\nARNOLD: That's right. But I try, and I enjoy it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6930.0,6960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when I do it. But as a youngster\ngrowing up, no.\n\nLEFF: That was not a way of life for you?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-uh, no.\n\nLEFF: So, on Saturday, very often you went to Scottish Rite to . . .\n\nARNOLD: Well . . . it was Scottish Rite's Aidmore Hospital. It was actually not\ncalled Scottish Rite at that time that we went.\n\nLEFF: Scottish Rite . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . the Aidmore, A-I-D-M-O-R-E. And it was the hospital where the\ncerebral palsy children were. And that's where we went.\n\nLEFF: What did you do for the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6960.0,6990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":". . . were you the Sunshine Girls?\n\nARNOLD: We would go, and we would play with the children. We would feed them.\nMany of them were terribly, terribly afflicted and weren't able to hold the\nspoon and feed themselves. Being like any other institution of its kind, they\nnever had enough people to sit and actually feed the child. Many of these\nchildren were from families who didn't live in Atlanta. They lived out of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6990.0,7020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"town\nand their child stayed at the hospital. It was almost like a resident hospital,\nand they would come in to visit occasionally, but not always. They couldn't,\neither because of funds or neglect, I don't know why. But these kids really had\nnobody to just come and love them. And I remember the day I had one little boy\nthat I kind of always gravitated to, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7020.0,7050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I taught him to say \"Mama,\" because his\nmother did come regularly. I just taught him how to say that. I remember how\noverjoyed, they told me later, that she had been . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . To hear him.\n\nARNOLD: . . . when he did that. I mean, these were the kinds of things that we\ndid individually. But the club fostered this, I mean, by choosing that as a\nplace to give our money.\n\nLEFF: Okay. And . . . you want to read a little more to me ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7050.0,7080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from there?\n\nARNOLD: Let's see what else it says.\n\nLEFF: Again, you're reading from the Tenth Anniversary, The Dozer, Tenth\nAnniversary Edition.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. Oh, here it talks about the young State of Israel. [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: Now the date of this is March 19 . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . 1952 . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . 52. And it talks about the young State of Israel.\n\nARNOLD: \"The young State of Israel can boast the addition of several new trees\nto its ever-growing forest because of DOZ's purchase of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7080.0,7110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tree certificates.\" So,\nI mean, it was a . . . alright, \"Willingly and enthusiastically, each DOZ member\ngave to the last Jewish Welfare Fund Drive.\" That was an individual contribution\nwe did. Oh, here it is. This is probably what . . . I think this is why I won\nthat thing.\n\nLEFF: Why you won the Year . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . \"This year, as last year, in addition to financial aid, several\nindividuals from DOZ had consented to help launch and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7110.0,7140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"carry through a successful\ncampaign,\" by starting a youth division. That was the . . . of the Welfare\nFederation. You know, there is one now.\n\nLEFF: Today, right.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. And this was when it started.\n\nLEFF: And Phyllis Arnold was instrumental in starting that.\n\nARNOLD: How about that. [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: Well, we finally got to it, yes.\n\nARNOLD: How about that. I forgot about that.\n\nLEFF: Okay. So, you were instrumental in starting . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . I'd forgotten that, Sandy. I sure had forgotten all that.\n\nLEFF: Well, it seems like it is something ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7140.0,7170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very important to bring back.\n\nARNOLD: Well, these things are fine.\n\nLEFF: Your kids should know about it and I'm sure they, without saying it, your\nkids know how you felt.\n\nARNOLD: But you know, Sandy . . . well, all of these things that we talk about,\nI mean, it sounds like . . . it's nothing for anybody to toot their horn about,\nwhether it was then or now. These are the kinds of things we all ought to be\ndoing. What we do . . . you do so much, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7170.0,7200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I wonder . . . I mean, I think we .\n. . sometimes wonder why some person does it and another person doesn't do a\nlot. I don't mean . . . I mean with equal time and effort and ability. I think a\nlot of it is just you do it because you can't . . . there's no way you cannot do\nit. It's you.\n\nLEFF: Well, I think it's you . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . I mean it's the right thing to do . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . because of your upbringing. Now, we can see what kind of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7200.0,7230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"influence\nyour father must have had on your life.\n\nARNOLD: Well, I think in my life, probably so. I always felt like to live in\nthis world, we're so privileged. We really are so privileged to have what we\nhave and to . . . the benefits, the country, the freedom. You know, it's like\nany other organization. You've got to pay your dues.\n\nLEFF: Well, you had a sense of giving back, and not everybody ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7230.0,7260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had that same\nsense of giving back. And I can understand why you were recognized for that,\neven as a young girl. There was the dating scene, which was very important, but\nyou also had another aspect to your life, a very important aspect to your life\nat that time.\n\nARNOLD: Well, many of my friends also. And I think probably that's . . . you\nchoose those kinds of people to be your friends if those things are what's\nimportant to you.\n\nLEFF: Important to you. But you said even at fourteen, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7260.0,7290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kids were dating.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: What did your family think about . . . I know your family must have\nadmired this community work that you did. How did they feel about your dating at\nage fourteen and fifteen?\n\nARNOLD: It was alright.\n\nLEFF: It was alright. It was accepted?\n\nARNOLD: It was okay, yeah. My mother felt that she had instilled the right\nvalues as far as ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7290.0,7320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"morality, and I don't think it ever worried them that we dated.\n\nLEFF: You dated on Friday night and Saturday . . . I mean, Friday night as well\nas Saturday night?\n\nARNOLD: Even then when there were any kind of functions on Friday night, you\nknow, whether it be fraternity or sorority or whatever, it was . . . we tried to\ndo some Jewish component, but not as much as the kids do today. Yeah, I mean, we\nweren't as ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7320.0,7350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"aware, and we didn't pay as much attention to Shabbat.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: Whether it was Friday night or Saturday.\n\nLEFF: But you felt very Jewish?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh, always.\n\nLEFF: Did you . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . I mean . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Did you go to the movies? What did you do on dates? Did you go\nbowling? I mean, what kinds of things did you kids do together?\n\nARNOLD: Bowling, hay rides, movies. There were usually . . . each organization\nonce a year had the big blowout, you know, the dance.\n\nLEFF: Did the kids have ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7350.0,7380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"cars?\n\nARNOLD: Some did.\n\nLEFF: How did you get to . . .\n\nARNOLD: Some did, yeah.\n\nLEFF: So, when you had a date, usually you went out in a car. You didn't take a bus?\n\nARNOLD: Except when I dated Joe, we went on a bus. Joe lived on the other side\nof town and he would come on the bus, and we would go out on the bus. Then when\nwe would double date with other people, we would have a car. But he didn't have\na car. And . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . 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I married a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7410.0,7440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"man very much like my\nfather, the same values as my parents. And I see it in my father, but my mother\nwas a strong influence, too. But, I mean, Joe is probably one of the best people\nI've ever known, Sandy. I mean, here's a person who rarely does anything of any\nfanfare, rarely does anything that is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7440.0,7470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public, but is so good to so many and\ndoesn't need . . . he's secure in who he is. He doesn't need any recognition. He\nmakes enough money to be comfortable and he doesn't have any great . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . He doesn't have great demands? . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . he doesn't need a lot of money. I felt he's very charitable. But\nmore . . . I'm not talking about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7470.0,7500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"money, now, I'm just talking about . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Goodness.\n\nARNOLD: Yes, goodness, and what he gives of himself to people. It's very -\n\nLEFF: It isn't always seen by others or recognized by others, but you see it.\n\nARNOLD: And the recipients know it. Yeah, but that's all that know. You'll never\nknow it from him.\n\nLEFF: But you saw that quality in him, apparently, when you were very young.\n\nARNOLD: Well, I just thought he was the smartest boy I had ever known.\n\nLEFF: You admired his intelligence.\n\nARNOLD: His intelligence, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7500.0,7530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so smart.\n\nLEFF: How much older is he than you?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, just three years.\n\nLEFF: Three years difference.\n\nARNOLD: But Joe won every prize there was, every academic prize that was ever\nout there to win.\n\nLEFF: Did he go to Grady High School, too?\n\nARNOLD: No. He went on the south side of town to Smith High. I dated him for his\nhigh school graduation, and I was so proud. He was valedictorian and he was the\nspeaker. He was . . . and that's the way, you know, I was just really proud of\nhim. That was always very important to me.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7530.0,7560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: Uh-huh. Did you always hope that you would get married? I mean, did you\nalways feel that way?\n\nARNOLD: Well, no, no, uh-uh.\n\nLEFF: Last night, Rosalyn Carter was on Jay Leno and she was talking about\ndating Jimmy from when she was fourteen years old, too.\n\nARNOLD: Really, really?\n\nLEFF: Yes. And how she felt about him. Jay asked her, and I'll ask you, do you\nremember when he asked you to marry him?\n\nARNOLD: Well, you know, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7560.0,7590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I had a detour in the middle there, from the time we\ndated until we got married years later. I married and had two children.\n\nLEFF: You did?\n\nARNOLD: Yes.\n\nLEFF: Oh.\n\nARNOLD: So, you don't even know that?\n\nLEFF: I don't even know that, no.\n\nARNOLD: You don't even know that because Joe has melded the whole family . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Together . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . together. I mean . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . 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And I guess\nI got a little bit impatient, you know how it is.\n\nLEFF: You went off to the University of Georgia.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7650.0,7680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before that I met somebody that . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . In high school . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . who shall remain nameless . . . [Laughs] . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . So, you're not even going to . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . for purposes of this tape. 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Well, isn't that funny?\n\nLEFF: And the Rabbi was Rabbi Rothschild at the time?\n\nARNOLD: Rabbi Rothschild.\n\nLEFF: Yes.\n\nARNOLD: Yes, that's who it was.\n\nLEFF: Did you ever teach Sunday School there? Or you did refuse?\n\nARNOLD: No, but I . . . ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7740.0,7770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at that time I just didn't . . . frankly just didn't\nfeel adequate about doing it. And a year or so later when I thought, well, gee,\nmaybe I should, I was pregnant and had a child, and that was the end of it, you\nknow, as far as teaching Sunday School at the Temple. But . . .\n\nLEFF: So, for the record . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . I just thought it was funny that he asked.\n\nLEFF: That he asked you to do that. But you met somebody else then in high\nschool. At the time, you were very proud you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7770.0,7800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"went to Joe's graduation and all.\n\nARNOLD: Oh, yeah, uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: But he went off to school and then you met somebody else.\n\nARNOLD: Yes.\n\nLEFF: And you were married right out of high school or started . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . No, not right out of high school . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . at Georgia?\n\nARNOLD: I went to Georgia first for a year, and then I got married and went to\nnight school for a long time after that.\n\nLEFF: It was not unusual for Southern girls at that time to just go to school\nfor a year and get married?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, no.\n\nLEFF: Is that right?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, no. Well, it was not unusual for a lot of my friends just to get\nmarried straight out of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7800.0,7830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"high school.\n\nLEFF: Married very young.\n\nARNOLD: They graduated usually in May, and June and July . . . that first year\nafter graduation, oh, gosh, I can name a half a dozen marriages that took place\nwith my very close friends.\n\nLEFF: And so, you don't want to . . . just for the record, since it's part of\nhistory . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Oh, I guess, Sandy, I was married to Howard Massell.\n\nLEFF: Okay. Howard Massell. How do you spell that? M-A-\n\nARNOLD: -S-S-E-L-L.\n\nLEFF: Okay. Was he related to Sam Massell?\n\nARNOLD: Brother.\n\nLEFF: A brother of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7830.0,7860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sam Massell.\n\nARNOLD: Yes.\n\nLEFF: Okay. And you were married to him for five years and you had two children.\nSo, you came back to Atlanta, and where did you live?\n\nARNOLD: I never left Atlanta. I mean, we . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Even to go to University of Georgia?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, yeah, I thought you meant during marriage. We lived at that time\nover on Morosgo Drive -- Adina Drive was the name of it.\n\nLEFF: A-D-\n\nARNOLD: A-D-I-N-A. And it's right there off of Lindbergh and in the Morosgo Apartments.\n\nLEFF: Morosgo is spelled?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7860.0,7890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARNOLD: M-O-R-O-S-G-O, Morosgo.\n\nLEFF: Morosgo.\n\nARNOLD: Young Jewish people either lived in the Rock Springs Apartments when\nthey got married or around Morosgo Drive.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh. And this would have been around 1954?\n\nARNOLD: Yes.\n\nLEFF: When you were around nineteen or twenty.\n\nARNOLD: And . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . And you had young kids at that time. Big responsibility.\n\nARNOLD: Well, my daughter was born when I was twenty, my first child. And Kim,\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7890.0,7920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"second, was born at twenty-three.\n\nLEFF: Okay. Well, thank you. We're going to end this side of the tape and then\nwe'll go on.\n\nARNOLD: Have we been talking forty minutes?\n\nLEFF: Yeah, I think so. Doesn't seem like it, but it looks like it. Thanks. This\nis Side Two. This is Sandy Leff and I'm continuing my interview on December\nfirst with Phyllis Arnold. We're here at Phyllis' kitchen table, and she is\nsharing some of her memories ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7920.0,7950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the past years. And I just want, if I may, just\nlook at this one picture and tell you how beautiful Phyllis looked when she was\nQueen of Ballyhoo. And we talked about that last time. And can I read what it\nsays underneath your name, Phyllis, if you can find it for me.\n\nARNOLD: I don't know what it says.\n\nLEFF: A very elegant and glamorous lady, from this particular publication which\nis the Ballyhoo publication. And she was the bookkeeper ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7950.0,7980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for Club Ballyhoo,\napparently. And it says, \"Glamour and hard work are two fine attributes of this\nexcellent secretary, Atlanta's answer to famous Dagmar, and then some.\" Now,\nwhat did they mean by that?\n\nARNOLD: Dagmar was some big buxom blond . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Oh, is that right? . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . on some television program.\n\nLEFF: Is that right? So that . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . That's not a big deal.\n\nLEFF: But that's a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=7980.0,8010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"beautiful picture of you, and that's the year you were Queen\nof Ballyhoo. It says December 24th and 25th. Does it give the year?\n\nARNOLD: I don't know what year that was. Let's see if it does anywhere.\n\nLEFF: See if it does give a year.\n\nARNOLD: 1951.\n\nLEFF: 1951. Okay. Well, we left you back in Atlanta with two young children.\nYour first child was Mark . . .\n\nARNOLD: No, Leslie.\n\nLEFF: Leslie, your daughter Leslie.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: And your second child was . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Kim . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . is Kim. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8010.0,8040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay.\n\nARNOLD: Also, a daughter.\n\nLEFF: A daughter. Okay. Oh, so you had two -- Leslie and Kim. You had two\ndaughters when you were very young. So, your time was devoted to them. Did you\ngo back to school at night while you . . .\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, yeah. When I was divorced, Leslie was three and a half and Kim was\njust a baby. She was very young, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8040.0,8070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before she was a year. And . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Were you the first person in your family to . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Ever, ever. [Laughs] First person I ever knew who was divorced.\n\nLEFF: Is that right? You mean, it was not common . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . In fact, Sandy, I'm going to tell you something funny. I can\nremember the years that I was divorced, I was single, and the girls and I lived\nagain on . . . we had lived . . . after the Morosgo Apartment I told you about,\nthen I lived in a couple of little rented houses, one on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8070.0,8100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Middlesex and one on .\n. . let's see Kim was born . . . Leslie was born on Middlesex and Kim was born\nwhen I lived on Jett Road. But when I left there, she was just . . . let's see,\nshe was born in February. I think I left there in October of that year.\n\nLEFF: Wow.\n\nARNOLD: That was it. So, anyhow, so we moved to an apartment. We first lived\nwith my parents for a few months, and then ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8100.0,8130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"after I got my wits together, we\nmoved to an apartment on Morosgo Drive again. It was near Broadview Shopping\nCenter which is now, I think, called Lindbergh Square. We lived there for quite\nsome time. And I had a young woman that lived . . . from Carrollton, a young\nblack woman, who lived with me.\n\nLEFF: To help you with the children?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. Yeah, she and I and the two girls lived there.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8130.0,8160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: Did you get a lot of support from your family, your parents and your sisters?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh, lots of support. My parents had not been happy about my\nmarriage, to begin with. So . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . And it wasn't because he was from the Temple.\n\nARNOLD: No, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. That was said half in jest, but . .\n. of course, that was the division in Jews in Atlanta then . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Right . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . As you probably have heard about. But no, that was not their\nreason. But anyhow, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8160.0,8190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so what did I do in those years? Well, Leslie went to Rock\nSprings Elementary School which was a stone's throw from the apartment. And I\nwent to work. I worked at Dwoskin's half the week and I worked at Colgate\nMattress Company the other part of the week, and I went to school at night.\n\nLEFF: Were you a busy lady.\n\nARNOLD: I was busy. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8190.0,8220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it was important to me to do those things at that time.\nAt first, I needed to be busy, but it was important that . . . I wanted to get\nmore education. I always kicked myself for not having finished schooling. And\nthat's how we, you know, that's kind of how . . . that was our existence between\nthat and family, and you begin, you know, a date here and there. But the funny\npart of it to me was that, actually ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8220.0,8250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"nobody was divorced then. Nobody got\ndivorced. And one by one over the few years before Joe and I hooked up again,\nyoung women would call me that I didn't know and said, \"So and so told me about\nyou. May I come talk to you?\"\n\nLEFF: Young Jewish women?\n\nARNOLD: Young Jewish women. And they just wanted to talk to me. Either one was\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8250.0,8280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"contemplating a divorce, or one had just separated, and it was like I was this\noddity out there that had done it and do you know, this continued for a few\nyears after Joe and I were married. People would call me about what it was like\nto be divorced.\n\nLEFF: So, you were kind of a shoulder to cry on, to sympathize with?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh. It was inter--yeah, I mean . . . I mention it not because I was,\nyou know, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8280.0,8310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as you say empathetic or anything, but because it was that rare, it\nwas that unusual in those years.\n\nLEFF: But you didn't let yourself get blue or . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Well . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . think about too much. You just had a program for yourself, it sounds like.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah.\n\nLEFF: You went right to work and to school.\n\nARNOLD: And I had lots of family support. I did. I did have a lot of support\nfrom my parents, from my sisters, my brother . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . 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But . . .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8340.0,8370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: . . . How long were you alone before you got married again?\n\nARNOLD: It was, let's see . . . four years.\n\nLEFF: Four years. And then Joe Arnold came back into your life.\n\nARNOLD: Yes.\n\nLEFF: And was he a physician at that time already?\n\nARNOLD: He was. He was still in Augusta when I first began . . . he didn't\nactually enter -- we double dated. I was dating a cousin of his, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8370.0,8400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we went out\ntogether. And it was . . . I think I had a sudden appendectomy and had gone to\nmy parents to recuperate. Joe and his cousin came to pay a sick call on me. And\nmy daddy said, \"You've got to get him. You've got to go after him.\" And I said,\n\"Daddy, I don't know how to do those things.\" And he says, \"Oh, sure you do,\"\nyou know. I remember that. But I . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Because they liked Joe very much, then?\n\nARNOLD: Oh, yeah, always, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8400.0,8430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"always. But, anyhow, then Joe came to Atlanta and went\nto work at DeKalb General. At that time, the emergency room was staffed by\nphysicians and who worked for the hospital who worked for the hospital, much as\nit is again today.\n\nLEFF: It's gone back to that.\n\nARNOLD: Right. But he did this not for a permanent thing, he did this just while\nhe wanted to look around Atlanta and see where he wanted to practice. So, he was\nthere for, I think, a year. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8430.0,8460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I truly -- this was nothing contrived -- I woke\nup one morning, Sandy, with a terrible tendinitis. I seem to get all these aches\nand pains, you know. Well, I woke up on a Saturday morning and I called my\ndoctor. And he said, \"Well, I don't inject. I can't do it for you.\" And I had\nhad injections by the orthopedist. He says, \"Call the orthopedist.\" So, I called\nthe orthopedist, and he didn't work on Saturday. And I couldn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8460.0,8490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bear the pain.\n\nLEFF: So, you had to go to the emergency room?\n\nARNOLD: So, I called Joe. I said, \"If I come out there, is there something you\ncould do for me?\" And he said, \"Certainly.\" And I did. And he took me back in\nhis room where he stayed -- he had a room where he stayed at the hospital -- and\nhe injected my wrist, and this magic took place. I mean, it was like immediate\nrelief. I was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8490.0,8520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so overjoyed. And I was asking my sister Elinor, I said, \"Elinor,\nI've got to do something to repay him. He wouldn't let me pay him any money.\nWhat can I do?\" She says, \"Well, do you know anything about him? What does he\nlike?\" I said, \"Well, I think he mentioned one time that he liked National\nGeographic, the magazine.\" So, she said, \"Well, why don't you send him a\nsubscription?\" I thought that's an excellent idea. So, I call, and it was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8520.0,8550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too\nmuch money. A year's subscription was, I think, like twenty-four dollars. But\nluckily, they had a six-month subscription. [Laughs] So, I sent him a six-month\nsubscription. And really, that's all I could afford. I mean, I did have two\nchildren, you know. 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We didn't have . . . we had a regular ceremony and\nit was large because my family and his family are both very large.\n\nLEFF: And Rabbi Epstein married you?\n\nARNOLD: Rabbi Epstein married me.\n\nLEFF: Had he married you the first time?\n\nARNOLD: Yes, yes. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8580.0,8610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he had secured the get [Jewish divorce document] for me\nand all of that. Rabbi Epstein was a very integral part of our family's cycles, always.\n\nLEFF: Was he supportive when you wanted to get the divorce?\n\nARNOLD: Yes, yes. Yes, he was very, very kind. He really was . . . I'm trying to\nremember. Let's see, the attorney at the time was Sam Eplan who was very\nwell-known in this community. And my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8610.0,8640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"daddy and I would go to Mr. Eplan's office,\nand, yes, everybody was just very kind. They really were. As I say, this was\npretty . . .\n\nLEFF: You were breaking some ground?\n\nARNOLD: . . . Yeah. This was very . . . it was pretty unusual.\n\nLEFF: Well, I didn't realize when I was going to interview you that . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . But, anyhow . . . You didn't know that was . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . To talk about, I didn't know . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . my past. My past. My purple past.\n\nLEFF: Well, just before we start talking about your wonderful family and some of\nyour activities as a married woman, you talked about camp. AJECOMCE you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8640.0,8670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did . .\n. what y'all did in camp? You forgot to tell me.\n\nARNOLD: Well, now, that was . . . you were just talking about the teen years and\nwhat was important. That was the summer act. I always worked AJECOMCE, the\nAtlanta Jewish Community Center day camp.\n\nLEFF: Every summer as a teenager.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. But, the camp . . . in those days, Sandy, there was no Zaban Park\nor anything of that nature. And the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8670.0,8700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Peachtree, where the Peachtree Street\nbuilding now stands was an old house, and that was the Atlanta Jewish Community\nCenter, this old house that was on that property.\n\nLEFF: That wasn't the Alliance?\n\nARNOLD: No. The Alliance was Capitol Avenue.\n\nLEFF: Okay.\n\nARNOLD: And it had meeting rooms and a room upstairs for banquets, and just an\nold barn in the back where athletics took place. That's where you spent Sunday\nbecause ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8700.0,8730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everybody had, you know, ball games. And in the summertime, we played\nsoftball at Piedmont Park. And later we played on the grounds, the playing\nfields of the Jewish Community Center on Peachtree. But it was just an old house.\n\nLEFF: And that's where the camp was held?\n\nARNOLD: Well, camp started there and rapidly outgrew that house. And I remember\nwe used to go . . . we would meet at the Temple, in the basement of the Temple,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8730.0,8760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some groups, and some groups would be at the Center, and we would take the kids\nswimming to the Progressive Club and to the Mayfair Club, because there was no\nswimming pool in any of those places, of course. So, a lot of the camp time was\nbus time, you know, busing to pick up the kid, busing to go swimming at the\nclubs. I remember, I was a bus counselor because I lived on the bus route at\nthat time. And Dr. Charles Gershon was one of my little ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8760.0,8790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"children, and Dr. Steve\nGarber was one of my kids. And it's funny. I made a condolence call not long ago\non a woman and her daughter, or a boarding woman, rather . . . on her family,\nand her daughter is sitting there, and she was looking at me and looking at me.\nShe says, \"I know you. You were my counselor.\" And I thought, God, you're as old\nas I am, you know. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8790.0,8820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You must be, right. Anyhow, it was a very . . . we had a lot\nof fun with that. I mean, that was a lot of fun for . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . So, you enjoyed children . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . those of us who taught at camp.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: We had wonderful administrators, too, at that time . . . the\nprofessionals who ran it, the staff. But it was good.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: It was a real good period.\n\nLEFF: So, you had a lot of experience with children. Your daughters Leslie and\nKim, do they live here in Atlanta?\n\nARNOLD: Leslie lives here and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8820.0,8850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"has two sons.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh. So . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Kim lives in California with a little girl.\n\nLEFF: Did they marry Jewish people, Jewish men?\n\nARNOLD: Well, he's Jewish now. [Laughs]\n\nLEFF: Oh, okay.\n\nARNOLD: Kim's not married now.\n\nLEFF: Okay.\n\nARNOLD: But Leslie has a Jewish husband now. He didn't start out that way.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh. But he converted.\n\nARNOLD: But he is. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Very sweet, nice, fine young man.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh. Does she observe Jewish . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Yeah, yeah . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . holidays and that kind of thing?\n\nARNOLD: Yes, they do.\n\nLEFF: Okay. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8850.0,8880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, you met Joe, and he took on this family with two young girls.\n\nARNOLD: Yes.\n\nLEFF: And where did you live with him?\n\nARNOLD: We bought a little house on Holly Lane.\n\nLEFF: Holly Lane.\n\nARNOLD: Yes. We've only lived in two houses, Holly Lane until we outgrew it . .\n. which we did very rapidly.\n\nLEFF: Because you had four children with . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Well, no, Joe and I had three children together, and so it's five altogether.\n\nLEFF: Five, okay.\n\nARNOLD: And we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8880.0,8910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rapidly outgrew Holly Lane. So, we must have lived there, let's\nsee, Danny, the youngest, was a year when we moved from there, so that was . . .\nI guess we lived there about six years. And then we moved to this house.\n\nLEFF: Okay. Did you get involved . . . I mean, I know you were very involved\nwith your children in those early years of marriage. Did you get involved in the\ncommunity? Is there anything that stands out in your mind?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8910.0,8940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, let's see, in those years . . . well, of course, I guess\nCity of Hope for a while was an organization that I was really active in. I\nthink my biggest activity, my most time-consuming activity where I . . .\nexpended most of my efforts at that time probably, other than, you know --\nFederation was always ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8940.0,8970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a big part of everything for me, as far as working for\ncampaign and all that. I think it was . . . in those years, I think I served on\nthe Board at Federation. But the PTA became very important. The children . . .\nwe lived near Kittredge School, and the children went there. There was a large\nJewish community a Kittredge. It was probably fifty/fifty. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=8970.0,9000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I guess what stands\nout in my mind right now is the educational process of what took place with the\nPTA Board at that school. My personal responsibility at the school, as part of\nthe PTA, was that we staffed the clinic. I don't know what schools do right now.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9000.0,9030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think they have anything that's similar to this. But we had a full . . .\nwell, not a full clinic, of course, but we had a room that was staffed full-time\nby parents, by mothers, all day, every school day.\n\nLEFF: The nurse . . . you served as kind of a nurse . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Yeah, yeah, we did. But of course, we weren't . . . that was not\npart of our duties to be a nurse, but we were there for children if they felt\nbadly, if they needed to be . . . either to just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9030.0,9060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rest or if they were ill and\nneeded to go home. And if we couldn't contact parents, they would stay in the\nclinic with a mother. So that was my responsibility, was running the clinic,\nwhich I did for several years at Kittredge. I really did enjoy that, but I\nenjoyed the people I met. There was a wonderful student body at Kittredge. We\nhad a lot of the Emory faculty people and there was a large ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9060.0,9090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"medical community\nthat had sent their people to Kittredge School. I guess a lot of the doctors\nlived at that time in Victoria Estates. There was a very large Jewish community.\nSo, we had a good school. And the PTA Board was made up of some very interesting\npeople. And in those years, there weren't winter holidays. It was all very, very\nreligious in the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9090.0,9120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"school. And having grown up in a small town, I was . . . never\nfelt that was unusual because Christmas was the big deal. When you're the only\nJewish person in a town, you don't make waves as far as saying you can't do\nthat. But here we were fifty percent of the population in the school. So, the\nPTA through the Board began educating the non-Jewish ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9120.0,9150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"board members to the fact\nthat this was . . . offensive is too strong a word, but that this was not right,\nand how we felt about it.\n\nLEFF: So, did you . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . And it was amazing, Sandy, how these educated, lovely, lovely\npeople had never thought about what it was like not to be the majority.\n\nLEFF: And you tried to sensitize them to that?\n\nARNOLD: Well, not I only, I mean . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . But your group.\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, yeah, the group. And it was a very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9150.0,9180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"painful time that we went\nthrough for, oh, I guess all of one year. But then one by one, the people began\nto say, \"You know, I never . . . you've raised my consciousness. You've made us\nthink.\" And it changed. That school changed drastically. There was . . . not\nthat it brought in . . . the point was -- we didn't want Hanukkah to have equal\ntime. That was not what we were asking ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9180.0,9210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for. We were asking to eliminate the\nreligious aspect totally from the celebrations in the school. The Christmas\ntree, all of that we felt was inappropriate. And it came around to being a very\nhappy -- truly a winter holiday.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: Thinking back on it, I think what was accomplished there wasn't the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9210.0,9240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fact\nthat the winter holiday was instituted. I think more importantly what was\naccomplished was that these really intelligent people on that Board had\nsomething opened up to them that they had never realized. I think that probably\nas the years went by, that probably made a difference in the people that they\nencountered. Because I imagine years after we left that school, I imagine it\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9240.0,9270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reverted back to Christmas celebrations. I really do. But those people who were\ninvolved in that whole metamorphous, I think really benefited.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh.\n\nARNOLD: And that really was as important time.\n\nLEFF: And you felt good about it . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Yeah, I think we all felt good about that . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . what you accomplished.\n\nARNOLD: That was a good group of people, both Jewish and non-Jewish, that worked together.\n\nLEFF: Have you remained friends with any of those people, or are most of your\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9270.0,9300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"friends today Jewish people?\n\nARNOLD: Most of them . . . but yeah, I still . . . living in the same area, I\nstill see . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . See them . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . a lot of these people.\n\nLEFF: And you have mutual respect, do you feel?\n\nARNOLD: Yes, very much so.\n\nLEFF: Did you belong to any clubs, you and Joe?\n\nARNOLD: Well . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Any, like the Progressive Club or . . .\n\nARNOLD: Briefly, briefly. That wasn't our thing, really, but we did belong\nbriefly. The ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9300.0,9330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Medical Society was a big part of . . . well, the auxiliary rather,\nwas a big part of my life.\n\nLEFF: Were you . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . At that time. Yeah, I held office every year in that. I used to do\n. . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Were you ever president of the Medical . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . No, uh-uh.\n\nLEFF: No. But you helped with the various projects.\n\nARNOLD: I didn't want to be president.\n\nLEFF: You never wanted to be president.\n\nARNOLD: That' s too hard. That' s too hard. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9360.0,9390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did you ever hear about\nher being the green safety lady?\n\nLEFF: No, I didn't. I did not.\n\nARNOLD: [Laughs] Oh, this was a very . . . it was fun. It was lots of fun.\n\nLEFF: Well, but was the idea for people to visit and show hazards in the house?\n\nARNOLD: To show, yeah, the House of Hazards. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9630.0,9660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Again, I think that the biggest difference, of course,\nis the size, you know, the exposure. I think that we had it much easier growing\nup and much simpler, much fewer influences from without the Jewish community.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9660.0,9690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Distance began playing a very important role in children growing up in their\ntimes, and of course I think it gets . . . I don't know, today I would think\nthat it's even greater.\n\nLEFF: Uh-huh. Family life is different because . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Distances . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . everybody is farther away.\n\nARNOLD: I mean everything -- you had to get in a car to go everywhere now. 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And then where did they go to college?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9750.0,9780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARNOLD: Mark went to Washington University, and then when he decided on\narchitecture, he transferred to Georgia Tech. Beth graduated from the University\nof Georgia.\n\nLEFF: So, they all followed in your footsteps . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Yeah . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . and Daddy's.\n\nARNOLD: Danny went to the University of North Carolina. Kim went to art school,\nfor photography. And . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . 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Do you want to tell a little bit\nabout the tutoring program that you were so instrumental in pursuing there?\n\nARNOLD: I think it's an excellent program that we have going from the AA\nsynagogue at Margaret Mitchell, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9840.0,9870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is really peopled by children from very\nyoung poverty pockets around the Margaret Mitchell area. And these kids come\nthere with very few advantages, and most of all the advantage they're missing is\nsomebody with enough time, not with enough love but with enough time to give\nthem, to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=9870.0,9900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"read with them, to work with them on their studies. As a result, a lot\nof them have fallen behind. And even those that maybe are grade level just need\nthat one on one attention.\n\nLEFF: So, you were involved there for four or five years . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Yeah . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . as a tutor yourself, right?\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: And as a coordinator . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . 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I know he was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=10050.0,10080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up there in Congress, and it's a shame that we don't\nhave the benefit of his counsel there now. But . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Did you know Sam Massell very well also?\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, yeah, I did. And for that matter, I addressed envelopes for Sam\nwhen he was running for re-election -- well, was it re-election? Yeah, as mayor.\n\nLEFF: Did he lose his re-election?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=10080.0,10110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARNOLD: I'm trying to remember exactly what happened. It's been a long time ago.\nI think he did. But . . . he was something to be proud of, to be the . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . The first Jew and only Jewish mayor . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . Uh-huh, of the city of Atlanta. It was a lot to be proud of.\n\nLEFF: We cannot end this tape without your telling me about your reunion. You\njust had a wonderful reunion with some of your family from Russia, and you've\ngot a big smile on your face and some tears ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=10110.0,10140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in your eyes.\n\nARNOLD: Well maybe, Sandy, that's where my efforts ought to be . . . I'll\ncontinue . . . maybe I'll be lucky enough to . . . fortunate enough to be able\nto continue some of my father's bringing Russians to America. I would just love\nit if they could come here. 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We'd like for them to\ncome here permanently.\n\nLEFF: So, that your family would be ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=10440.0,10470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"together.\n\nARNOLD: Well, they're . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . You have a lot of family here, and then this would add . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . They've missed a lot. They've missed a lot.\n\nLEFF: Let me ask you one other thing, too. Who else do you think we ought to\ninterview? Who would give us a good oral history about Atlanta? Do you have some\nsuggestions? People we haven't interviewed yet that you would suggest we interview.\n\nARNOLD: If you want just straight Atlanta history . . .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=10470.0,10500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEFF: . . . Jewish Atlanta history . . .\n\nARNOLD: Yeah, I know, yeah, that's what I mean. Not necessarily involvement or,\nwhen I say involvement, I mean not necessarily but more of a family-oriented . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . Impression . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . people-oriented impressions, I have two sisters-in-law who are\nwonderful historians.\n\nLEFF: And what are their names?\n\nARNOLD: Sarah Ellison and Charlotte Rich.\n\nLEFF: And they're a little bit older than you are?\n\nARNOLD: They are ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=10500.0,10530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"both . . . one is eighty and one is eighty-three or four. And\nthey have all their faculties and they are sharp, and they are funny, and they\nremember . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . They have some wonderful stories.\n\nARNOLD: Uh-huh, uh-huh.\n\nLEFF: Well, Phyllis, I wish we could just continue on and on, but you have been\nterrific, and I can see how your involvement reflects your upbringing and the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=10530.0,10560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"way you act in the Jewish community and the way you respond to others . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . We . . .\n\nLEFF: . . . are a direct result of your . . .\n\nARNOLD: . . . We have a wonderful Jewish community, Sandy. We are very fortunate\nhere, don't you think?\n\nLEFF: I think so. It's terrific.\n\nARNOLD: And having come from somewhere else, you see it maybe from different\neyes, but I think God knows nobody . . . has taken it by storm like you have.\n\nLEFF: Well, we're here talking about you, and I just think it's wonderful how\nyou have always ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=10560.0,10590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/transcript/31963/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"been a leader in many ways in community outreach and not always\napplauded for all that you do and did do in the community. And I thank you for\ntaking the time to talk to us, and it's been a wonderful experience for me\npersonally as well as I'm sure for the Oral History Project. Thank you.\n\nARNOLD: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=10590.0,10620.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/annotation_set/564","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Annotations [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/annotation_set/564/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Atlanta Jewish Federation was formally incorporated in 1967 and is the result of the merger of the Atlanta Federation for Jewish Social Service founded in 1905 as the Federation of Jewish Charities; the Atlanta Jewish Welfare Federation founded in 1936 as the Atlanta Jewish Welfare Fund; and the Atlanta Jewish Community Council founded in 1945. The organization was renamed the Jewish Federation of Greater Atlanta in 1997. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/annotation_set/564/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003ePiedmont Atlanta Hospital is located at 1968 Peachtree Road, Atlanta, Georgia. Piedmont was established in 1905 as the Piedmont Sanitarium in the former mansion of Charles Thomas Swift at the northwest corner of Capitol and Crumley streets in the then-affluent Washington-Rawson neighborhood. The name was changed to Piedmont Hospital and eventually the hospital took up an entire square block. The Washington-Rawson neighborhood was razed in the early 1960's to make way for Atlanta–Fulton County Stadium and its parking lots.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/annotation_set/564/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eYiddish: A fellow Jew who comes from the same district or town, especially in Eastern Europe.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/annotation_set/564/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAhavath Achim was founded in 1887 in a small room on Gilmer Street. In 1901 they moved to a permanent building at the corner of Piedmont and Gilmer Street. In 1921, the congregation constructed a synagogue at Washington Street and Woodward Avenue. The final service in that building was held in 1958 to make way for construction of the Downtown Connector (the concurrent section of Interstate 75 and Interstate 85 through Atlanta). The synagogue moved to its current location on Peachtree Battle Avenue in 1958.  \u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eRabbi Abraham Hirmes was the first rabbi of the then Orthodox congregation. In 1928 Rabbi Harry Epstein became the rabbi and the congregation began to shift to Conservatism, which they joined in 1952. Cantor Isaac Goodfriend, a Holocaust survivor, joined the congregation in 1966 and remained until his retirement. Rabbi Epstein retired in 1982, becoming Rabbi Emeritus and Rabbi Arnold Goodman assumed the rabbinic post. He retired in 2002. Rabbi Neil Sandler is now the rabbi. (2015).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/annotation_set/564/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eOakland Cemetery is the oldest cemetery and one of the largest green spaces, in Atlanta. Many notable Georgians are buried at Oakland including Margaret Mitchell, author of Gone with the Wind; Joseph Jacobs, owner of the pharmacy where John Pemberton first sold Coca-Cola as a soft drink; Bobby Jones, the only golfer to win the Grand Slam, the United States Amateur, United States Open, British Amateur and the Open Championship in the same year; as well as former Georgia governors and Atlanta mayors. Oakland is an excellent example of a Victorian-style cemetery and contains numerous monuments and mausoleums that are of great beauty and historical significance.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/annotation_set/564/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eGreenwood Cemetery, opened in 1904, is designed in the Lawn style, with long vistas in all directions. Greenwood has a large Jewish section. 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It moved to a permanent location on Boulevard when it purchased and renovated a two-story apartment building. In 1956, it converted the Tabernacle Baptist Church on Boulevard to a synagogue. It built its current synagogue building on a five-acre lot on LaVista Road in 1961. Rabbi Joseph Safra was the congregation’s first permanent rabbi in 1951, followed by Rabbi Emanuel Feldman from 1952 to 1991. 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Synagogue ceremonies are held for \u003cem\u003ebat mitzvah\u003c/em\u003e girls in Reform and Conservative communities, but it has not won the universal approval of Orthodox rabbis.   \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/annotation_set/564/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eHebrew for ‘son of commandment.’ A rite of passage for Jewish boys aged 13 years and one day. At that time, a Jewish boy is considered a responsible adult for most religious purposes. He is now duty bound to keep the commandments, he puts on \u003cem\u003etefillin\u003c/em\u003e, and may be counted to the \u003cem\u003eminyan\u003c/em\u003e quorum for public worship. 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AZA’s sister organization, for teenage girls, is the B’nai B’rith Girls (BBG). \u003c/span\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eThe \u003cem\u003eAleph Godoh\u003c/em\u003e is the president.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3750.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/annotation_set/564/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Jewish Educational Alliance (JEA) operated from 1910 to 1948 on the site where the Atlanta- Fulton County Stadium was located. The JEA was once the hub of Jewish life in Atlanta. Families congregated there for social, educational, sports and cultural programs. The JEA ran camps and held classes to help some new residents learn to read and write English. For newcomers, it became a refuge, with programs to help them acclimate to a new home. The JEA stayed at that site until the late 1940’s, when it evolved into the Atlanta Jewish Community Center and moved to Peachtree Street. It stayed there until 1998, when the building was sold and the center moved to Dunwoody. In 2000, it was renamed the ‘Marcus Jewish Community Center of Atlanta.’\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/annotation_set/564/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Henry Grady Hotel was a 13-story hotel located at the corner of Peachtree Street and Cain Street (now Andrew Young International Boulevard) in Atlanta from 1924-1972. 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He received numerous accolades and awards for his leadership in Atlanta’s Jewish community including the Atlanta Jewish Community Center and the Atlanta Jewish Federation. 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He was diagnosed with infantile paralysis, better known as polio, in 1921, at the age of 39. Despite permanent paralysis from the waist down, he was careful never to be seen using his wheelchair in public, and great care was taken to prevent any portrayal in the press that would highlight his disability.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769#t=6000.0,6030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46628/file/119769/annotation_set/564/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eChaim Nachman Bialik (1873-1934) was a Jewish poet who wrote primarily in Hebrew but also in Yiddish. Bialik was one of the pioneers of modern Hebrew poetry. Bialik ultimately came to be recognized as Israel's national poet. 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