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The family was enthusiastic Zionists and they are related to Bertha (Bert) and Bob Travis, the foremost promoters of Zionism in the southeast. Esther discovered when she was quite young that she had a natural ear for music and began to take piano lessons.  She learned ragtime by ear and began to play for her brother’s college friends at their fraternity parties at Emory University. \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther started to attend Girls’ High when she was 12, where she was elected class president, and expected to go to college to be a teacher. Her father, however, refused to send her to college and felt that she should find a scholarly Jewish husband. Esther was unhappy about this decision and went to work as a Hebrew school teacher until she met and married Herbert Taylor (1895-1987).\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAt the time of their marriage, Herbert was a pharmacist with his own stores, although later he went into real estate development. Esther and Herbert had one son, Mark (b. 1928). She resumed her musical studies when time and duties allowed, studying with noted pianists, and eventually attending both Julliard in New York City and the Sorbonne in Paris, France. Esther also was asked to be a member of the Atlanta Music Club and headed several efforts at musical education in classrooms and on the radio.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther also joined Hadassah and the National Council of Jewish Women where she served in a variety of roles, much of it in the area of legislative lobbying. She attended the Conference on the Cause of Cure of War where she was received at the White House, an event which started a life-long admiration of First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt. She also joined ORT after a trip to Morocco, where she saw conditions that inspired her to a life-long commitment to the organization. Esther also brought Planned Parenthood to Atlanta, raising the funds, renovating the buildings for the first clinics, and establishing it firmly in the city.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther Kahn Taylor passed away in Atlanta on November 13, 1992 at the age of 87.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eEsther recalls her childhood in Atlanta and her growing interest and talent in playing the piano and her early musical education.   She remembers how she learned ragtime by ear and became so competent at it that her brother invited her to his fraternity parties at Emory University to play for his friends.   She recalls her time at Girls’ High and how she was elected class president.  She remembers her disappointment at not being able to go to college and settling for teaching Hebrew school and her courtship and marriage to Herbert Taylor.  She recalls hew dowry and her wedding which was performed at Shearith Israel.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther recalls the role of women in her mother’s generation who remained in the home exclusively and her mother’s endless baking, cleaning and entertaining, resting only on Saturdays.   She remembers how her father sold clothing—largely to black people and the important role of Zionism in their household. \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther remembers her volunteer with Hadassah, the National Council of Jewish Women, and ORT, including attending the Conference on the Cause and Cure of War in Washington, D.C. where she met and was deeply impressed by the First Lady, Eleanor Roosevelt, who received her at the White House.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther recollects her long career with music including learning to play the piano in childhood, further advanced studies in her adulthood with well-known pianists such as Guy Maier and Louis Teicher, and studying at Julliard in New York City and in Paris, France at the Sorbonne.  She also discusses her participation in music education through the Atlanta Music Club and presenting programs on the radio and in the school promoting music education—especially for disadvantaged and black children. \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther recollects in detail her work with Planned Parenthood for which she began the first chapter in Atlanta, raised funds and awareness, opening clinics and expanded and the challenges and achievements of that process.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eShe remembers her studies at the Sorbonne and her life and travels in France and Europe.  Esther also discusses a series of topics including women’s rights and changes in women’s lives over her lifetime, marriage and changing sexual mores, drugs, education, music appreciation and music in the 1980’s, government, her travels in Israel, religion and history, and being Jewish.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28041"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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Esther discovered when she was quite young that she had a natural ear for music and began to take piano lessons.  She learned ragtime by ear and began to play for her brother’s college friends at their fraternity parties at Emory University. \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther started to attend Girls’ High when she was 12, where she was elected class president, and expected to go to college to be a teacher. Her father, however, refused to send her to college and felt that she should find a scholarly Jewish husband. Esther was unhappy about this decision and went to work as a Hebrew school teacher until she met and married Herbert Taylor (1895-1987).\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eAt the time of their marriage, Herbert was a pharmacist with his own stores, although later he went into real estate development. Esther and Herbert had one son, Mark (b. 1928). She resumed her musical studies when time and duties allowed, studying with noted pianists, and eventually attending both Julliard in New York City and the Sorbonne in Paris, France. Esther also was asked to be a member of the Atlanta Music Club and headed several efforts at musical education in classrooms and on the radio.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther also joined Hadassah and the National Council of Jewish Women where she served in a variety of roles, much of it in the area of legislative lobbying. She attended the Conference on the Cause of Cure of War where she was received at the White House, an event which started a life-long admiration of First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt. She also joined ORT after a trip to Morocco, where she saw conditions that inspired her to a life-long commitment to the organization. Esther also brought Planned Parenthood to Atlanta, raising the funds, renovating the buildings for the first clinics, and establishing it firmly in the city.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther Kahn Taylor passed away in Atlanta on November 13, 1992 at the age of 87.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eEsther recalls her childhood in Atlanta and her growing interest and talent in playing the piano and her early musical education.   She remembers how she learned ragtime by ear and became so competent at it that her brother invited her to his fraternity parties at Emory University to play for his friends.   She recalls her time at Girls’ High and how she was elected class president.  She remembers her disappointment at not being able to go to college and settling for teaching Hebrew school and her courtship and marriage to Herbert Taylor.  She recalls hew dowry and her wedding which was performed at Shearith Israel.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther recalls the role of women in her mother’s generation who remained in the home exclusively and her mother’s endless baking, cleaning and entertaining, resting only on Saturdays.   She remembers how her father sold clothing—largely to black people and the important role of Zionism in their household. \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther remembers her volunteer with Hadassah, the National Council of Jewish Women, and ORT, including attending the Conference on the Cause and Cure of War in Washington, D.C. where she met and was deeply impressed by the First Lady, Eleanor Roosevelt, who received her at the White House.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther recollects her long career with music including learning to play the piano in childhood, further advanced studies in her adulthood with well-known pianists such as Guy Maier and Louis Teicher, and studying at Julliard in New York City and in Paris, France at the Sorbonne.  She also discusses her participation in music education through the Atlanta Music Club and presenting programs on the radio and in the school promoting music education—especially for disadvantaged and black children. \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eEsther recollects in detail her work with Planned Parenthood for which she began the first chapter in Atlanta, raised funds and awareness, opening clinics and expanded and the challenges and achievements of that process.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eShe remembers her studies at the Sorbonne and her life and travels in France and Europe.  Esther also discusses a series of topics including women’s rights and changes in women’s lives over her lifetime, marriage and changing sexual mores, drugs, education, music appreciation and music in the 1980’s, government, her travels in Israel, religion and history, and being Jewish.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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Margery Diamond [is the]\ninterviewer. Esther, I'd like to begin with asking you about your early life and\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your memories of that early life.\n\nTAYLOR: I'm a native Atlantan, the daughter of East European immigrants. My two brothers, Samuel, eight years, and Louis, 11 years older than I, were born in\nRussia. Of course, I didn't know until after I was born ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Atlanta. My mother--Janice was her name--brought them here five years after my father, Marcus Kahn, settled in Atlanta. He became a United States citizen and furnished a small house in a Jewish Orthodox neighborhood. That's where I was born in 1905.\n\nDIAMOND: Where was that. . . 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They were courteous and friendly and quite often, each one\ninvited ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me to come in and have a cookie or candy. I'm not sure whether they\ninvited me because I came to the door or not. I just remember the cookies and\nthe candy. One of them had a grown daughter. I remember her name: Nonie Rae [sp]. She played the piano. When she saw me listening at the window, she called me in and asked if I could sing. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Apparently I said \"Yes.\" \"Let me teach you\nsongs,\" she said. Straightaway I had a repertoire of popular songs. Some of the\nwords I didn't even understand. Then she bought a few children's picture\nstorybooks and read the stories to me. One day, my father ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said to me, \"Nonie Rae says you can read.\" I brought the book home and I turned the pages at the right place and seemed to be reading. Actually, I had memorized each page. So he thought it was time for me to go to school. I was only five years old. They\naccepted me. Nothing happened, really, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of any importance while I was in grammar school, except that I was always chosen to memorize poems to recite for special occasions. Evidently I began to talk without any fear from the time when I was five years old.\n\nDIAMOND: Let me ask you this, Esther, your memory used to be absolutely\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"phenomenal, according to what you've just read. Do you think that we could put\nthat down and just sort of talk from what you remember writing and not read it Because it. . .\n\nTAYLOR: The only thing that I know is that my father taught me to read by memory the Sh'ma Yisrael. 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I didn't know what I was saying.\n\nDIAMOND: I know it's important to you to get it all right, but I don't think we\nhave to worry so much about that today, if we can just put ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what was written away and talk about the things that come up. Then we can go back over it and see if there is anything that we've missed. I think it would suit the project needs a little better.\n\nTAYLOR: I do want to tell you that while I was in grammar school I attended\nHebrew school in the afternoon. I also started to take music lessons. 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During the week I practiced very, very little.\n\nDIAMOND: It was too cold.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TAYLOR: But at the same time, I learned some of the fundamentals. By the age of 12, I was already ready for high school.\n\nDIAMOND: Did the music teacher come to your house?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. In those days, if I were to tell you what my father paid for the\nlessons, of course, it would sound ridiculous. Fifty cents a lesson. . . 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That's a supposition.\n\nDIAMOND: What kind of educational background did your father have?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TAYLOR: My father was naturally a Hebrew student up until he was practically\nmarried. He started the Shearith Israel congregation in Atlanta and brought over\nRabbi [Tobias] Geffen. Every morning they had their regular studies, the Torah\nstudies. 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I imagine that was for the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"poor, but it was also for the rabbi.\nIn those days, they didn't even pay a rabbi a regular salary. Did you know that?\n\nDIAMOND: No, I didn't.\n\nTAYLOR: In the Orthodox groups, they didn't. Perhaps in Reform groups they did. As you know, there was quite a division between the Orthodox and Reform Jews. The Reforms came here, I think, in about the 1860s. By the time the Russian Jews started immigrating . . . as my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"father and my father-in-law did in the late 1890s . . . no, my father-in-law came in the 1880s . . . but my father came in 1890s. That's when the large East European immigration started.\n\nDIAMOND: Did your father come through Ellis Island and all?\n\nTAYLOR: He didn't tell us about that very much. I heard much more from my mother and my brothers. 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I really hadn't been away anywhere except ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to visit my aunt down in\nThomaston, Georgia. We didn't move out in any circles. Once my father took me to hear [Enrico] Caruso . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Where was that?\n\nTAYLOR: . . . in Atlanta at the auditorium. I know he took me to hear a concert\nby a great chazzan . . . 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That's when she\nread the papers, the \"Tagblatt.\" [German: Daily News or Daily Paper.] In the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tagblatt was a continuing story. She saved all the papers. On Saturday she read\nall the stories and really enjoyed it, I think, more than almost anything else\nshe did. But I never understood exactly why my mother didn't attend all the\nevents. There could be a lot of reasons. I would have to just guess them. I'd\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rather not do that.\n\nDIAMOND: Was her life in Russia . . . Poland, similar?\n\nTAYLOR: Not at all, not at all. Her father had a mill. That's seems to be one of\nthe things the Jewish people were allowed to have. They had a mill and with it\nfarmland. She was one of seven girls, and there was only one boy. 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Of course, I realize why [now].\n\nDIAMOND: What did your father do before he came to America?\n\nTAYLOR: I'm not absolutely sure, except that I remember his telling us that he\nhad a number of men working under him as foresters, that he had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a background in mathematics and understood how to select the trees that were to be taken down and shipped. So he had men working under him. Evidently he worked for the . . . I don't know what they called them . . . the duke or the man who owned most of the land in the area, because they didn't live in a large city. They lived not too far from Bialystok [Poland]. He, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"evidently, with his education, even though it wasn't an English . . . the kind that we would think of as an education, he had studied so that he had mathematics. He was able to find out not only which trees should be taken, but how many and their lengths and which ones should be shipped and that sort of thing.\n\nDIAMOND: So he came with skills?\n\nTAYLOR: A skill which he wasn't able to use ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"here at all.\n\nDIAMOND: What did he do when he got here?\n\nTAYLOR: That is something I'm not certain about. I know that many of the Russian immigrants who couldn't speak English started with packs on their back. Evidently my father didn't, because all I ever remember was that he had a buggy and a horse. It was no wagon either; it was a lovely buggy. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So he must have been selling clothing to the neighborhoods on credit. In those days, I don't think that most people had the . . . evidently they couldn't charge anything in the\nstore. They didn't have the background. I also imagine that most of them were\nBlack people. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1350.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not certain about this. So even today I think there are insurance policies for which the insurance agents visit houses and collect their\npayments by the week or the month. It's that kind of thing. So unless that's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gone out of fashion too . . . maybe they do it by mail. But it hasn't been many years ago when I knew somebody who did just that.\n\nDIAMOND: What did your father do when you were young in Atlanta?\n\nTAYLOR: This is what he did.\n\nDIAMOND: He did that?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes.\n\nDIAMOND: Then what did he do after that?\n\nTAYLOR: A great many things intervened. One of the . . . I'm really ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"skipping a\nlot of my history in answering that question, because my older brother . . . a\nlittle later, when he became a lawyer, my father was able to talk with him. By\nthe way, my father spoke English. Of course, some of his grammar wasn't perfect. He started quite early ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to think in terms of retiring early.\n\nDIAMOND: So in other words, through all your girlhood he sold clothes on credit? That was what he did?\n\nTAYLOR: More or less.\n\nDIAMOND: We can get back to your story and come back to your father again.\n\nTAYLOR: I think I was talking about high school.\n\nDIAMOND: Right. You got up to high school where you were going at age 14 to\nEmory to play the piano . . . ragtime.\n\nTAYLOR: That's right. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As I said, I was playing ragtime at the time and . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Your father changed teachers?\n\nTAYLOR: . . . my father changed teachers because he said that I had to learn\nother music. I really didn't want to at that time. In my senior year at Girls' High, something extraordinary did ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"happen. At the school's semi-annual student government assembly, a Christian schoolmate nominated me for president.\n\nDIAMOND: How did you feel when that happened?\n\nTAYLOR: I couldn't believe it. There was a round of applause, the same as that\nfor the other nominees. Then after the assembly . . . my schoolmate . . . her\nname was Catherine Culberson. . . 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I didn't play games\nand basketball and tennis like the other girls. I didn't think that I was well-known.\n\nDIAMOND: Did you think being Jewish . . .\n\nTAYLOR: Being Jewish was very important. I should have mentioned that. There had never been a Jewish girl president of Girls' High. There were very few Jewish girls in the school ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because most of the Jewish girls went to Commercial High. But anyhow, this Catherine was very vehement when she said, \"Esther, you know that a lot of the girls in this school know that you have given up your lunch time to play for them while they danced during gym ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that you've . . .\"-- she was in two or three of my homeroom classes--\"You always came to school early to help some of us who weren't certain about the answers to the questions in algebra and so forth.\"\n\nDIAMOND: So you did some one-to-one tutoring with your friends?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. She said, \"You have also ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very often offered to do things whenever anybody asked for something to be done at school . . . Besides, the faculty and the principal have something to say about this, too.\" I guess she meant that they evidently knew that I made good grades. I was an A student. 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But one month before\ngraduation, my father told me that he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"couldn't send me to college. I wept and\nreminded him that I was supposed to become a teacher. He assured me that I could become a teacher, that I had studied Hebrew for seven years and that the Hebrew school needed a first and second grade teacher. He was certain the board members would accept me even though they had never had a female Hebrew teacher. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't think this was a fair compromise, but my mother was now an invalid, and my father made the rules in our house. So at the ripe old age of 16, I taught Hebrew school for two years.\n\nDIAMOND: You said your brothers were sent to college?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, yes. That's the old-fashioned idea that men--and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I suppose some of that still exists--that men have to make the living for the family and they have\nto have a profession. Women can be homemakers and they don't have to [make a living]. In fact, my father said, \"You're smart enough.\" That's exactly what he\nsaid. I didn't think I would admit it, but that is exactly what he said. After that, I think two years after, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I married Herbert Taylor, ten years my senior. A new and completely different life was before me then because. . .the wonderful part was that my husband permitted me to do almost anything I wanted to do. I didn't ask for the world, but I could feel the liberty of being my own person and doing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whatever I chose to do for the first time.\n\nDIAMOND: Can you talk a little bit about how you and Mr. Taylor met and decided to get married?\n\nTAYLOR: That's a very long story. I had a lot of boyfriends because, I suppose,\nmy brother and the fraternity. He used to really use me. He would say, \"You go\nsee 'X'. When you have a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1920.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"date with 'X,' you be sure and tell him about our\nfraternity. Tell him all about it, and you see if you can't get him to join.\" I was, I suppose, so naïve that I did it. So I did have a number of dates. Some of the boys, knowing that my brother didn't come back from school until late in\nthe afternoon, would come over about 3:00 or 4:00 o'clock and say, \"Is Sam\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"home?\" Then they'd spend the afternoon talking with me. So I had quite a few\ndates with boys, all of whom were seniors in college. I did go out with a few\nolder men really--we called them \"boys\"--one of whom was my husband. I noticed that my father--my mother, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too--liked him better than anybody else. He was very bright. He didn't bring chocolate candy. He brought ice cream from the drugstore so. . . But he always took the time to talk with them. He used to come ask me for regular dates for Friday night. After a month or two, my father didn't like it. He said, \"It's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2010.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too often. It's too regular.\" From that, I really knew that\nhe didn't expect me to get married. It never occurred to me. But one night\nHerbert did ask me to marry him. I said, \"There's not a chance. My father is not\ngoing to let me get married at this age. But you can try.\" I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did like him. He asked my father, and my father said, \"I tell you, Herbert. Esther is too young to get married but her mother is sick, and she really should be out of this house.\" My mother had tuberculosis. The doctor said it was better. \"I can't afford ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to send her to college. If you'll raise her\"--that was the word he used-- \"and take good care of her, I think I can let her marry.\"\n\nDIAMOND: Wow. What did Herbert Taylor do at that time?\n\nTAYLOR: He was a druggist. He was in partners with his brother. He had gone\nthrough pharmacy school. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2100.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"His brother had two small children. The business was\nreally not adequate for two people. I suppose I was thinking of the future already. I suggested that he open a drugstore of his own and let his brother have the drugstore so that there would be enough for his family, because actually ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we had no responsibilities. I was still teaching Hebrew school. So he started out with a drugstore of his own and a lot of debts.\n\nDIAMOND: Was your Hebrew school position a paid position?\n\nTAYLOR: Indeed. I was getting as much as a secretary. Yes, I did. I had to turn\nover a good part of it to my father, which was for a dowry. Again, that was the\nold-fashioned idea that every girl had to have a fine dowry. My ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dowry had a fur\ncoat and all my linens were hand-embroidered . . . the usual things that a girl\nneeds. Not in great numbers, but I had a fine dress for parties. I had a fine suit, and the bed linens, all of that. I still had some money left for myself during the time. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I made a good salary . . . for those days that is.\n\nDIAMOND: So you turned over part of your salary to your father? It wasn't\nconsidered room and board?\n\nTAYLOR: No. This was strictly for my dowry. I heard him speaking to my mother\noccasionally. That's how I found out some of these things. He never told it to me. But I remember that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I knew it, so I imagine I must have overheard it. I don't ever remember him telling me that.\n\nDIAMOND: What kind of wedding did you have?\n\nTAYLOR: Not much of a wedding, really. It was supposed to have been in the\nrabbi's . . . there was a special room in the Shearith Israel synagogue. It really wasn't in the rabbi's home at all. 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I suppose some of the people that my father invited must have told ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them. I felt very embarrassed. I came running down the aisle. So it wasn't much of a wedding, I can assure you. I think there is one interesting feature of that evening. There was a party . . . I guess you would call it the assembly hall of the synagogue . . . my father brought out a bottle of wine that he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said he had put up when I was born. He made wine every year with grapes. Part of it went to the shul and part of it we used for all the holidays. He opened up the wine and was going to give everybody a taste. It was pure vinegar.\n\nDIAMOND: Oh, no. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I want to ask you one question. You said you dated on Friday night. You were obviously from a religious family affiliated with a\ncongregation, and yet you dated on Friday night. Was there a problem there?\n\nTAYLOR: My husband parked a block away from the house. My father asked no questions,\n\nDIAMOND: So you were allowed to go without talking about it?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. 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Sometimes I would take a lesson and\nthen not be able to come back for months, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"depending on all the different events,\nsuch as the death of my mother. Then I had two surgical operations. Then my\nfather died. Then our son Mark was born. That was in 1928. Mark is now 58 years old, and he has four lovely children. So that was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a time when I just simply\ncouldn't do very much with the music. But I did join Hadassah before Mark was\nborn. I don't really know how I did this. I think when you're young it's possible to do almost anything. You make the time and you never get tired. It's so different from today, when it's all I can do to do one thing during the day. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I accepted various chairmanships. For example, I took the program for the meetings. Then I took the chairman of the choral group and wrote the . . . had to change the keys and all that kind of thing . . . we had a regular choral group. Then ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was asked to be hostess for some of the parties and convention people who came in and membership. You always had to work on membership. Really, I did a little of everything.\n\nDIAMOND: Did you stop teaching your Hebrew school?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. I just taught for two years.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DIAMOND: So when you got married . . .\n\nTAYLOR: I taught one year after I married, and that was it. I did have some free\ntime in between all these events that happened. But as I said, they were all very serious kinds of things. When you have surgery you can't do anything for a good while, and then you had deaths in the family. I had a very hard time ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with birthing our son. It took me months before I could get over that. So I really didn't have too much leisure.\n\nDIAMOND: How did you choose Hadassah? What made you choose Hadassah to do your volunteer work?\n\nTAYLOR: Hadassah was a natural because in our dining room there was a large, framed picture of [Theodor] Herzl. 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My phone was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"busy every hour of the day. I tell you, I learned a great deal about accepting a position as president of an organization because it is a tremendous responsibility. But in the meantime, I really felt it was the kind of thing that I couldn't do for any length of time. I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2850.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had a friend who I really influenced to join Hadassah. She came from New York [City, New York] and\nwas a neighbor of mine, Bert Travis. I influenced her to come to the meetings.\nShe didn't know anything about Hadassah or Zionism. I gave her a good bit of\nliterature. Then she gave it to her husband. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was really like a miracle. Bert\nand Bob Travis because the foremost Zionist leaders, not only in Atlanta, but in\nthe whole Southeast region. So when Bert became the president, I felt it was in\nvery good hands. So I decided that I wanted to join a different kind of organization . . . something in which I would ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be involved in legislation. It was\nthe League of Women Voters that I favored. I did know a few people who belonged to the League. I saw what they were doing. So after I joined them, I thought: the [National] Council of Jewish Women has a legislative department. I'll ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"join them. The Council of Jewish Women had nearly all--certainly a preponderance--of the German-Jewish women. Hadassah was sort of Russian. The Council was the German groups. But that didn't bother me. I joined because I wanted to participate, especially in the legislative program. They ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were very cordial. I think any of the others could have joined and they would have been cordial. Some few said, \"Oh, they're snobs\" . . . some few of the women . . . of the Hadassahs, which shows that things have changed a great deal. So almost immediately, I was made chairman of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"legislation and was sent to the Cause and Cure of War Conference in Washington [D.C.]. Everybody laughed about that when I said, \"I'm going to the Cause and Cure of War.\" We haven't found out that yet, have we?\n\nDIAMOND: No, we haven't. But tell me about that Conference.\n\nTAYLOR: Actually, I don't remember too much about it, because I was so enamored of Mrs. [Eleanor] Roosevelt. She received ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"us at the White House. My memory keeps going back to that. So little of what I heard at the Conference now comes to me. Yet I made a good speech when I came back about it. The reason I know it was a good speech was because right after that, they asked me to speak at the Southeast Regional Conference in Savannah [Georgia]. I know ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if it wasn't a good speech, they wouldn't have sent me to Savannah. Then a short time after that, I was asked to represent the [National] Council [of Jewish Women] for the Council Sabbath as a speaker at the Friday night Purim service. Now that was really very unusual. I had never heard of anybody taking the pulpit in the Temple. Here I was, an ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Orthodox girl, and I was being asked to speak in the pulpit for Council.\n\nDIAMOND: Which pulpit was that?\n\nTAYLOR: At the big Temple.\n\nDIAMOND: At the Temple?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, the big Temple, right where it is now. So I chose for a subject\ngreat woman in Jewish history. 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The subject was \"Great\nWomen in Jewish History.\" I was born on Purim, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that's why my name is Esther. So at the end--I want to read this last paragraph--I said, \"No matter what our citizenship, our initial value is based on whether we are genuine. First we have to pass the test of family, then of community and country, and finally of the\nworld. The ideal world will not be one in which all mankind ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is fused through a\nregimentation of being exactly alike. Only insofar as each of us contributes to\nour specific culture will we aid in the historic process of humanity and help to\nbring about the union of all mankind. Towards this goal, every Jewish woman can play a part and become ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a heroine.\"\n\nDIAMOND: That's beautiful.\n\nTAYLOR: I think that this really constituted the depth of my feeling because my\nwork in the few organizations and my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"background and the fact that I think Jewish people do have a heritage of tzedakah [Hebrew: justice, righteousness] that I felt this way about it. When I said \"family,\" first said \"in family\" I believe\nthat foremost. I really do. I knew a number of people. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think my father was\nmaybe a little example of that . . . [he] reached out in the community and gave\nmore time there than he did to his family. Not that he in any way shirked his\nobligations. I don't mean that. But in the way of time . . . the amount of time\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that he spent at home, I think it's less than the time that he spent in communal\nthings. So I always felt that any part of my family came first. I have . . . hundreds of letters. I've kept in touch with all the members of the family, both my husband's and mine. I have so many ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"letters, many of which I've kept, that I\nvalue. I keep them. A good many of these are letters from my relatives, those\nwho lived away from Atlanta. I write . . . to this day, I have something like eight regular correspondents every week--nieces, sister-in-law. I still feel that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3360.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's the first order of business. Let me go on and tell you a little bit about the time that this speech was made and what happened then. May I?\n\nDIAMOND: Yes.\n\nTAYLOR: This speech was made in 1949. By this time, my husband had changed from being a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"druggist to a house builder. Our son was grown. We had responsible household help. We had never crossed the ocean. We traveled just to New York occasionally. That was the most. So we began our travels every summer to all parts of the world. 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I guess you might call it a house . . . one large ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"room, which was a schoolroom. There wasn't one child there that had on a decent pair of shoes. Some of them had a shoe of one kind and then a second shoe of another. Some had shoes which were much too big for them. They looked so poverty-stricken. Really, I didn't see a fat child in the whole room. 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I know a lot ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more about ORT now. I know that they do training, really, for people to learn professions or any vocation that they're able to train them for. But at that time, I knew very little about it. So the first thing I did when we returned from this trip was to invite about 20 of [my] friends. I showed the slides and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"made comments about it. All of them agreed that we had to start a women's ORT organization in Atlanta. It took quite a while before the ORT women's group\ndeveloped, and now they have a very fine . . . I think they have quite a few ORT ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"chapters in Atlanta, and they do very well.\n\nDIAMOND: Was there a men's ORT chapter?\n\nTAYLOR: There was. I think there was a men's group. But again, my husband worked such long hours in the drugstore that he couldn't be a joiner. So he was not a member of it. I wasn't aware of it. That was a real eye-opener for me . . . that ORT school. So in recent years ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3600.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have been going to the meetings and it is in our foundation. I think that they do one of the most important pieces of work. In those days, everybody talked about the \"Joint.\" That was the [American Jewish] Joint Distribution Committee. That was the organization that we all knew. It still exists. It was probably the most important institution ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3630.0,3660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which took care of needy Jews in all parts of Europe and maybe the Near East. But ORT has really become a very valuable organization in Atlanta now. I must go back to the idea of the music because this was a repressed desire on my part, to become a graduate musician. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wanted to be a real musician. It kept welling up in my psyche. My dear husband had no objection when I asked him if I could register at the Juilliard School of Music. I continued to go there every single summer for eight years.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DIAMOND: When did you start? When did you begin?\n\nTAYLOR: I'll have to go get my report cards. I don't remember the years. But I think it was somewhere in the Fifties.\n\nDIAMOND: So Mark was . . .\n\nTAYLOR: Mark was grown, yes. During the winter, I practiced every day, and about that time . . . I don't remember the exact year, but I think it was in the Forties--I was asked to be a member of the Atlanta Music Club. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, in those days, I think people thought you had to be asked. Maybe it's even to this day. I don't know. But one of the reasons that I joined when I was asked was to see what they were doing in the educational department. I knew that they gave\nscholarships to talented young people in order for them to be able to go to college. But this was for just the chosen few. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3750.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I talked with the president. I discussed the possibility of a radio program. It was really no trouble at all to get permission from the music department of the schools because in those days the schools didn't have an audio-visual department; we arranged to schedule--or they arranged it, really--to schedule a period of listening [to a] program ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3780.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"every single day at a certain time . . . [during] the music period, which I gave on radio. Then it was called WCON. Now it's WAGA. I started immediately to do research. Luckily I was able to get a fine volume . . . I think it was about six-volume . . . of a course, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so that I could choose the things that I wanted. The first year I called it \"Stories in Music.\" The second year I borrowed the\nidea from the radio program called \"Hit Parade\" and I called it \"Classical Hit Parade.\" The third year I think the title was \"Music by American Composers.\" Then ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3840.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the fourth year, the schools established an audio-visual department. I really didn't think there was any need for me to have to go down . . . every single day I'd get up at 5 o'clock every morning to write the scripts. So the last year, I had interviews . . . no, it was just once a week at night in prime time. It was called \"Interviews and Happenings in Atlanta.\" I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"can tell you that it was very rewarding to receive many, many letters-- you can see a lot of them there-- commending the program. But I was very weary of all this continuous research. I really thought I might be able to put my time elsewhere. For some\nreason, I am fickle ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about doing the same thing over and over again. I wonder how in the world I ever stayed with music as long as I did. But you see I never did accomplish what I wanted. So I guess that's the reason. There's always so much more to learn. 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The Atlanta Journal printed nearly a whole page of pictures--I want ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=4080.0,4110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you to look at them--about this, with appropriate remarks. We really did increase the participation in this group quite a lot.\n\nDIAMOND: You accomplished what you set out to do?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, I don't know how long it lasted, because I wasn't chairman of that for too long. I think it was two years. 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On one occasion, I called up the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=4140.0,4170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"president of an organization--a Black organization--called \"[The] Links.\" Are you familiar with it?\n\nDIAMOND: No.\n\nTAYLOR: Links is composed of Black ladies, all quite wealthy and well-educated. It's the equivalent of the white Junior League. 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Rosalyn Tureck. She played here in concert for the Music Club. So naturally when I was in New York, she had a course. It was a listening course. I took that course with Rosalyn Tureck. I also entertained her in our house. She is, I think, the world's most renowned Bach player today. I'm ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=4920.0,4950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mixing things up here with regard to the time element.\n\nDIAMOND: That's all right. We can always go back and catch up.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. I would like to tell you that it was strange how my interests shifted at this time. 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It was foolish probably, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5100.0,5130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but I told her [mother] that she was wasting her time, the child's time, and her money, that perhaps [the child] would do better if she studied dancing or maybe took up a sport. That mother never spoke to me again. So I found out something. You cannot tell any parent the truth about their children. I was careful after that. 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One of them did go on to Juilliard and became quite a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5160.0,5190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"good pianist . . . married very soon after. She was not Orthodox. She married an Orthodox man. They had one child after another. She dropped her music completely. That made me feel that teaching music was not for me. I put a great deal of energy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5190.0,5220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"into it. I really liked to teach. But if you don't have a talented student, I think it's a waste of time.\n\nDIAMOND: When your talented student disappoints you, it's probably very frustrating.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. I had a very close friend who didn't agree with me at all. That was the only thing we always disagreed on. She said, \"It's good training. It's good discipline. 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I think we're at a good stopping place, so if we can say good-bye.\n\nTAYLOR: The main part of my story is about Planned Parenthood.\n\nDIAMOND: Can we save that until next time?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, surely.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5280.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DIAMOND: This is the second interview with Esther Taylor at her home on July 30, 1986. It's for the American Jewish Committee and the Council of Jewish Women's Oral History Project, Jewish Women of Achievement. Margery Diamond [is the] interviewer. Esther, I know you've got something else you want to say today. You've got it all written down, so we're going to hear it and ask you some questions along the way.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5310.0,5340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TAYLOR: That's fine. I'm glad to see you today again. There were a few things I wanted to say when you left, because these were some intervening years. I thought it was important to say a little bit about my own personal health because during the first three decades of marriage I had two serious surgical operations. But I recovered quickly and was in general good health. But in the Fifties ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I developed two physical handicaps: degenerated vertebrae in the neck and osteoarthritis in the fingers and the toes. What it means . . . when you're a pianist and you can't use your fingers . . . not only do they hurt, but the tactile sense is lost.\n\nDIAMOND: That must have been devastating.\n\nTAYLOR: It was. 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I took trips which included parts of every country except Australia.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5460.0,5490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DIAMOND: Did you plan these trips all by yourself?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, I did.\n\nDIAMOND: [You] told other people where they were going, or how did that work?\n\nTAYLOR: No. In some cases, I traveled with another person, but it was always a planned trip. When I went with my husband . . . we made two trips to Israel. One was with a group and one we went on our own, where we flew from one place to the next. We did it different ways.\n\nDIAMOND: I want to interrupt you one minute because that reminds me about something that I wanted to ask you. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5580.0,5610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was very interested. I've always been interested in the overpopulation question and also the Negro question. I just wanted to see what it was like.\n\nDIAMOND: What did you see there that affected your life dramatically?\n\nEsther: The same thing that I think I will talk about a little later because of other developments, shall I say. 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She gave me brochures and some scientific pamphlets.\n\nDIAMOND: Is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5640.0,5670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"her name important in Planned Parenthood?\n\nTAYLOR: No, not at all, because New York is a tremendous city and she was just one of many. New York is where it started and where the most . . . not only the important affiliates are . . . but even abortion clinics in New York . . . also a very large center where they do work for infertile women. It's a very important part of their work there. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5730.0,5760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Finally, I think it was in the very early Sixties, I discussed the matter with Herbert. He, like the others, said it would be extremely difficult and possibly he thought it was just an idea of mine and that I really couldn't put it over. But he did say if I was determined to try, he would supply the seed money to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5760.0,5790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"begin it.\n\nDIAMOND: That's quite supportive.\n\nTAYLOR: That's all I needed. So I wrote to National Planned Parenthood and asked if they expected to send a representative or director for the South, which was still completely undeveloped with regard to family planning. 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I wrote what I considered was a pretty\ngood letter ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5850.0,5880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which I confess was written in the style of a mystery story. I asked\nthem to come to a meeting--I think I called it a \"mini-lunch\"--to hear something\nextraordinary, very new and unusual. I thought that might bring them. To my\nsurprise, about 40 women showed up. I really didn't expect that many.\n\nDIAMOND: Did they know . . .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=5880.0,5910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TAYLOR: They didn't know.\n\nDIAMOND: . . . that it was for Planned Parenthood?\n\nTAYLOR: No, they had no idea. It was just a personal invitation. Some were not\nthe presidents . . . some that they appointed to come in their place. The man\nwho came down . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Let me stop you one minute. Who were some of the organizations that were represented among those 40 women?\n\nTAYLOR: The organizations . . . as I said, I took the names from the library. 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The man that came down was Russell Richardson. . . they\nexpected that if this got started that they would open up an office and start\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=6000.0,6030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trying to get some affiliates in the Southeast . . . when he got through with his speech, we had a show of hands as to whether they agreed that we needed a\nPlanned Parenthood in Atlanta. I think it was unanimous. They didn't promise\nanything, but they agreed that we needed to have it. There were a few people\nthere that I knew. I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=6030.0,6060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thought that I could depend on them to be volunteers. Do you know that it was amazing how few people even had heard of Planned Parenthood in Atlanta? I had friends who were interested in social service of all kinds . . . members of the [National] Council of Jewish Women. They're certainly people who have had good backgrounds. They've gone to college, and most of them know what's going on. 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I\nthink there were something like 12 in the city . . . came for the social diseases, gonorrhea and so forth, or for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=6210.0,6240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tuberculosis or lung examinations. I never heard of anybody who went to the clinic for family planning. I doubt if they even had a person for gynecology in those departments. So when I went to see him, I didn't get an answer at all, even though I knew Dr. Hackney and he used to send prescriptions to my husband when he was his druggist. On the other hand, I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=6240.0,6270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"went to see the Governor [of Georgia] with this doctor, Dr. Luella Klein, because I felt I needed somebody who was professional. I was still ignorant on that part.\n\nDIAMOND: Who had the right vocabulary?\n\nTAYLOR: Right. I went to see the mayor [and] the county commissioners. There\nwere three county commissioners. The editor of the Journal-Constitution. 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The girls stuffed the envelopes, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=6420.0,6450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"addressed the envelopes, put on the\nstamps and then we mailed them.\n\nDIAMOND: Mailing that many letters is very expensive.\n\nTAYLOR: It wasn't really. It was amazing how we kept the cost down. Actually it\nwas just the printing and the stamps. In those days, it wasn't 22 cents. It was\n5 cents a letter. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=6750.0,6780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I could tell you some really interesting stories about one in particular. I'm not going to because it really doesn't matter.\n\nDIAMOND: That's the story I want to hear, but don't give me any names. Tell me\nthe story.\n\nTAYLOR: The story is one [that] . . . a man who is the executor of a big estate,\none of the biggest groups of stores here in Atlanta . . . My son had . . . 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=6810.0,6840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know whether he did the right thing or not, but he did. He not only gave him the plans, but he\nhelped him work it out and helped him build the shelter. When I asked him if I\ncould come to see him, I got an effusive answer, \"Yes, Mrs. Taylor, I'd be so glad to see you.\" When I came in, he shook hands and he said he was so glad I came. I told him the story, and he wrote me out a check for $100. 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They had their own mission; they ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7050.0,7080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had their own needs. They were afraid that some of their volunteers would be lost. I could see that I didn't get the responses there. So there were only three that I went to. I was able to get an invitation to the Council of Christian Churches meeting. But they told me only 10 minutes, and my speech was 30 minutes.\n\nDIAMOND: What did you do?\n\nTAYLOR: I took it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7080.0,7110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because I thought they were important. I can't say that they\npaid a great deal of attention. It was very different. It was a completely\ndifferent atmosphere in that group from all of the other groups. They were so\nrelaxed. I couldn't really tell that they were listening. But in 10 minutes you can't say what you can say in 30 minutes. You can't really develop the subject. But I was glad to get it. 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But I continued to go to the meetings . . . one meeting ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7170.0,7200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for each group during the year . . . usually the annual meeting. I continued to support them, every year sending a little more so that I could make up for the fact that I really wasn't doing anything for the Jewish organizations. But as I said before, I just felt that this was the most important thing that I had ever done because no one else was willing to do it. I suppose that's important. 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We were all getting to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7260.0,7290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be in our sixties. We couldn't get around as well. Some of them couldn't drive--they had to be taken. I don't think these young people would pay very much attention to their ideas or their experience, because everything was new and different. I don't really think that a person who becomes . . . especially because of the changes in these last 50 years . . . that because a person has had a lot ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7290.0,7320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of experience, it doesn't mean too much. First of all, memory isn't very good about important things.\n\nDIAMOND: I'm going to need to interrupt you because our tape is almost at a\nstopping point. I would love to take the next side of the tape when we finish\nthis to talk about some of the changes and some of the differences that you see\nas to then and as to now. So I'm going to put a stop here. We'll take a break\nand be back in just a minute.\n\nTAYLOR: That will be fine.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7320.0,7350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DIAMOND: You just have so much wonderful information to share that we're going to just enjoy the next little 45 minutes. Then I'll come back, so don't worry\nabout not getting to everything. Just relax and enjoy.\n\nTAYLOR: It's much too detailed. In fact, I think I've spoken about myself too\nmuch already.\n\nDIAMOND: No, no. 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I didn't know ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7470.0,7500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"exactly who to ask to do that. That is a job that was sort of meant for me because at this time I was not driving and I was at home a great deal. I thought probably I knew more people because I had so many people coming to the recitals, so that they knew me even if I didn't know them . . . that perhaps I would be the best person to try to get donors and some private ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7500.0,7530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people for members. The office had some other monies [so] that they were able to send certain kinds of literature. But for this kind of thing, they just didn't have any other funds. Every year now for some years, I didn't consider myself the chairman ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7530.0,7560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of membership. I just . . . on my own, with my own stationery and my own handwritten letter . . . which I had in some cases Xeroxed [copied], I sent letters to sometimes 50, sometimes 100 people. I got very good results. I would say that I'd gotten at least 300 [to] 350 members in the last four, five, six years, who regularly send in their membership checks. 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They can call ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7620.0,7650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as many times as they wish and as often as they wish.\n\nDIAMOND: Questions about family planning?\n\nTAYLOR: Any kind of health question. I'll have to show it to you so that you can\nsee. There are 100 questions. It has to do with almost any phase of health. 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There's something like . . . I wish I had a copy of it, but I left them all at the office yesterday because I just sent out some letters. I think there were altogether . . . it included everything you can think of . . . the prisons, the battered women's groups . . . even ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7710.0,7740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for that matter, some of the senior citizens' groups because, after all, they have children and grandchildren and they needed to sometimes answer questions. It's something I would say that . . . just guessing [as] I didn't count them . . . I would say about 75 different groups . . . 50 to 75 groups that we have had contacts, sent speakers, movies and/or literature. These are pamphlets which ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7740.0,7770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I am putting in this week with a letter in which I'm not asking directly for membership. I'm simply explaining what I think is necessary to explain. \"This is a short message with information which you will not find in the newspaper. The large downtown Planned Parenthood Clinic which provides contraceptives ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7770.0,7800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and varied health services in metro Atlanta is funded by the United States government and the United Way. Advocacy, information and education is funded by memberships and private donors. I'm enclosing two\nsamples to indicate a few of ways we do outreach and advocacy. It is vital in\norder to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7800.0,7830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reach those who cannot afford private MD [medical] services. Later, I\nshall send you a membership envelope and you can decide if these services merit your support. With thanks, I am . . . \" Then next week . . . these letters have been mailed . . . next week, again with my name on the back . . . not Planned Parenthood because they're liable to throw it in the wastebasket as they do with dozens of other things that they get . . . my name is on the envelope . . . 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I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7860.0,7890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"usually get . . . it depends. Some years, especially at the beginning when I knew most of the people to whom I wrote, I got something like 60 percent . . .\n\nDIAMOND: That's phenomenal.\n\nTAYLOR: . . . which is phenomenal. Then as time went on . . . after about two or\nthree years . . . I began to write to people that I didn't know so closely but that knew me. I began to get about 40 percent. Last year, I got only 25 percent.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7890.0,7920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DIAMOND: But that's still an incredible percentage when you're soliciting for funds.\n\nTAYLOR: So this year I decided, instead of asking straight out, I'm writing mostly to people that are not only middle-upper class, but some very wealthy people whose names I've gotten off of the brochures that I get from the organizations that we support. 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In this way, it may be that there will be of a little more interest because we're supporting them and I think that they should support us.\n\nDIAMOND: I think that's fair.\n\nTAYLOR: So this is about all I want to say about Planned Parenthood . . . except\nfor one thing, and that is that my husband has been really ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7950.0,7980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the greatest help\nbecause when we were ready to move into the large United Way building, we got the estimates for something like $90,000. My husband, in his business, had a man who does his work. We got the work done for a little less than $80,000. Then we got . . . an ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=7980.0,8010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"estimate for drawing the plans for $6,000. My husband got his architect to do it on weekends. He was very happy to get $1,000, so we gave him the $1,000. We saved that $6,000. My husband worked with the contractor. 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I don't want to go into this too far, but I would like to say a few words about the most recent years, in which I think . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Can we stop one minute before we do that?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes.\n\nDIAMOND: Because I have a few ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8040.0,8070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"questions about the Planned Parenthood years. I spoke to one of your grandchildren, who happens to be a friend of my son's. He said, \"Ask Grandma about the time that she spoke to a group of women and held in her hands something that was a contraceptive that they had never seen and didn't know what it was.\" I want you to tell me about that time. Do you remember?\n\nTAYLOR: That was a joke that I started one of my speeches with. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8070.0,8100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was a baby who was born, and it didn't cry. The doctor slapped him as usual, and he still didn't cry. He laughed. The doctor says, \"This is strange. I've never seen a\nbaby born that laughed.\" He tried to prize the baby's hand open. He got it open.\nWhat do you suppose he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8100.0,8130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"found? The pill. I guess that's what she must have meant. That's the only story I can think of.\n\nDIAMOND: He said something about a diaphragm.\n\nTAYLOR: I don't remember that one. I always had to have some something . . .\nonce I taught a class years ago for Hadassah in public speaking. I had a few . .\n. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8250.0,8280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was very popular and was the first large building of that kind at that time. It's been some years ago. I have a picture here with a letter to us in one of those books that you saw.\n\nDIAMOND: You have a letter from Dear Abby?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, \"Dear Esther\" with her picture on it. It's a very flattering letter. Anyhow, we had a dinner for our board before. 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We could get all the money we needed for advocacy.\n\nDIAMOND: How has the response ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8400.0,8430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the Black community been to your effort?\n\nTAYLOR: I went to see one of the Black millionaires . . . two, as a matter of fact. One started in those years doing concrete work, then started developing big developments and buildings and so forth. He's a multimillionaire. He was then. He was one of the first that I went to. 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He came from Baltimore [Maryland], where he was very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8520.0,8550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"active with Planned Parenthood. In the national, I would say that three-fourths of the people there are Jewish people. In most of the large cities, Jewish people take a really active part in Planned Parenthood. In Atlanta, for some reason . . . 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I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8580.0,8610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"didn't know what his past was. I didn't know that he had been president. He was not vocal at all during the board meetings . . . [he] said very little. But someone there found out about him, and he was willing to take the presidency. He's making a good president, but he isn't doing any proselytizing or anything like that. I don't think he's asked any of his members. I don't think he would do that. But just the very fact that he took the presidency was good enough for me. 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He was largely responsible for the applications for money, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8640.0,8670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because he was a genius really . . . not only a bright mind, but he was capable and worked with us until his death by cancer about . . . three or four years ago. Herbert and I gave\nPlanned Parenthood $1,000 in his memory so that they would put his name on our boardroom so he could be remembered, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8670.0,8700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because he was really responsible for those applications. It's not easy to get that kind of money from the United States government, especially in those days.\n\nDIAMOND: Right. It takes the know-how.\n\nTAYLOR: You have to know how, and he did it for us. Once when I was supposed to go up and see Senator [Herman] Talmadge, I didn't feel adequate to the job. I knew if Dr. Levine went up, he would make a much better presentation. 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Don't forget that from 1964 to 1986--that's 22 ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8730.0,8760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years--some of those people were already in their sixties then, so they are either in nursing homes, or they've passed. So now we have a completely new board. They're mostly young people. There again, I feel the same as I did for the Jewish organizations. They are young people. They're going to do it their way. There are new ways. I have very little to say. 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I would like, if we have the time, to tell you something ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8790.0,8820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that is also very personal, but it is important in the sense that I just about three\nor four years ago realized that I would soon be 80, and my husband would soon be 90. I wanted to do something that would be permanent. 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Now, that's besides the regular ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8910.0,8940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things that we would always have to do in large amounts like the Jewish drive for the United Jewish Federation and for the [Jewish] Home and for the United Way . . . things of that kind. As long as we're living, we will take care of that. But we weren't sure about these others as far as ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8940.0,8970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"our children were concerned. So we started this Foundation, and we are also adding to it. In this way, unless our whole world changes . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Which you never know.\n\nTAYLOR: . . . we never know whether it will be . . . because of nature or because of revolution or whatever . . . this will go on permanently. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=8970.0,9000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that's about the best thing that we can do at this time, because my husband now is losing his hearing. I have a number of . . . they're not very serious physiological changes, but naturally at this age . . . I'm 81 and he's 91. Our time is limited. So we thought that was the best way for us to remain interested while we are living ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9000.0,9030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and also do something for the future. That's really about all I can say. I think I've said too much already about myself.\n\nDIAMOND: We've just begun to talk. I've done a lot of listening. I think we've got about 15 minutes or a little more left for today. 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I thought to myself, \"Here ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9150.0,9180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is the most understanding, the warmest personality that I've ever met.\" Incidentally, she had rings on her fingers. You know later on how everybody used to wear rings. I thought that was so strange. No big diamonds. They were little tiny . . . maybe a few little rubies, or just a plain gold ring . . . I thought that was so strange for her to have these. 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I think she was greatly loved because everyone felt that she was interested ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9270.0,9300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in people, and particularly people in need. I don't know that I felt that way about any other President's wife during my lifetime.\n\nDIAMOND: I want to go back a little bit before that as well, and ask you about\nthe decision to go to Paris [France]. How [did] you make that decision and what\n[was] life was like then for you?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9300.0,9330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TAYLOR: I didn't mention to you that I had hay fever quite badly for many years.\nI was allergic to the grasses and the trees that grow in this area. I had itching of the nose, nose running, eyes running. Every summer I would try to go to some place near here so that Herbert could come on weekends when Mark was\nlittle . . . where they didn't have these same trees and grass. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9330.0,9360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then when Mark\nwas in camp, I was able to go to New York. I didn't have it there at all. There\nweren't any trees or grass there. That was one of the reasons I kept going. Herbert would always come up in the mid-part of the season. Then at the end we would go somewhere from New York. Paris was a completely different thing. When I gave up the music . . . my best ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9360.0,9390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"facility was my ears. I loved French. When we were in Israel, I had already had some French. I had taken some French lessons at Emory and some private lessons. When we arrived there, we went to one of the. . . you see what happens to me? . . . I can't think of the word. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9390.0,9420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I use it a thousand times, where they have the social group living.\n\nDIAMOND: Like absorption?\n\nTAYLOR: No.\n\nDIAMOND: Commune?\n\nTAYLOR: It's like a commune, but they call it something else in Hebrew. I know\nHebrew, but I just can't think of the word.\n\nDIAMOND: Kibbutz.\n\nTAYLOR: The kibbutzim, yes. I didn't sleep very much last night. You can tell\nthat. We went to a kibbutz. They were all Moroccan Jews, and all they could\nspeak was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9420.0,9450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"French. We had no one in our group [who] could say a word or could\nunderstand them, and they couldn't understand us. I was the one who was able to\ntranslate and speak with them. I thought to myself, \"Isn't this a great thing,\nno matter where you go, you can find people who can speak French.\" I've had the same experience when I was down in Haiti and various places. French always seemed to be something . . . even when I was in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9450.0,9480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Holland once and I was on the train going to . . . I think from there I went to Warsaw, Poland. I've forgotten because we made three or four trips and we went in different directions. This time, I was alone and on a bus trip. Herbert will not ride a bus. I told him that I wanted to go through ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9480.0,9510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russia. I wanted to see what the whole place was like. Flying from one city to the other doesn't tell you very much about what the country is like. So I started by myself and met the group in Warsaw, Poland. I was on the plane. I was sitting next to a man [who] was going there to teach. What was he going to teach? French. The whole trip, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9510.0,9540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we conversed in French. I began to think [that] I ought to really learn how to speak this language well. The best place is to live in Paris for a while. If you live in a place for six\nor eight weeks and you have to speak French all the time . . .\n\nDIAMOND: You get a lot of practice.\n\nTAYLOR: That's the way to learn it. Just going to class and getting an hour, it's just not enough. 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The two drivers began to yell at each other, each one saying ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9780.0,9810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that the other one was in the wrong. I was afraid . . . I didn't know . . . I\nthought they may take me to court, like they do here. So I left a little money\nin [the cab] and I ran. I got out quickly because I just didn't know whether I would be involved. Later I found out they never go to court. All they do is just have a long discussion and they go on their way. But just any number of things happened. So I didn't really enjoy my stay. Finally, I heard from Herbert. His\nmother was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=9810.0,9840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"96 years old. She was getting to be so very weak, it looked like she\nwas not going to last, and he was afraid to leave. So I just cut my stay short. I took one week in Spain, since I was already there. [I] didn't know if I would get back . . . and came home.\n\nDIAMOND: Did you find traveling alone to be different for a woman?\n\nTAYLOR: It was easy in those days. It wasn't like it is today at all. 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The people on this side of the apartments . . . these were old apartments, and the outside of these apartments were of stone, but the buildings, you could hear everything, as you can ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10110.0,10140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to this day here in Atlanta. It was very noisy, and it was extremely cold to take a shower there. In the spring when I first started there, it was so cold that I took a bath with my sweater on. I just washed a little piece at a time. It was really that cold. In the Sorbonne itself, which is a large building, which must have walls . . . the walls must be a couple ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10140.0,10170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of feet thick, it was like ice in that building. It was just as cold as though it was wintertime. That was in May.\n\nDIAMOND: This is a third interview with Esther Taylor at her home on August 19. It's for the American Jewish Committee and Council of Jewish Women's Oral\nHistory Project, Jewish Women of Achievement. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10170.0,10200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Margery Diamond [is the]\ninterviewer. Esther, we've had two wonderful interviews where you've told me all\nabout the organizations and the activities which you've been involved in over\nthe past so many years . . . 81, is that right?\n\nTAYLOR: I'm 81 years old, but I wasn't involved until I was about 25.\n\nDIAMOND: Many years and many exciting, wonderful adventures. Now ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10200.0,10230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what I'd like is sort of a statement or some comments about how you came to be involved in the things that you chose, like Hadassah and Planned Parenthood and the other . . .\n\nTAYLOR: Musical things.\n\nDIAMOND: . . . and the music and the art.\n\nTAYLOR: I believe the best way to start an answer to this question is to say that I lived in a very small community, didn't travel in my early years, didn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10230.0,10260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have communication with the outer world, so to speak. [I] was not interested in anything very much other than what my parents told me to do: school and Hebrew school, or Hebrew teacher, and some music. My mother taught me to crochet and knit and many things which just seemed all that was important to me. But the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10260.0,10290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reason that I became interested in Hadassah at a fairly early age is that we had a picture of [Theodor] Herzl in our dining room . . . a large, framed picture. I may have mentioned this before. We also had little boxes [Hebrew: pushkas] . . . we had one . . . every family had one . . . for charity. 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I attribute everything I've ever done to having somebody in my house that I could leave our one son with and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10380.0,10410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"feel\ncomfortable. So I became interested there and worked, I would say, probably 15\nyears almost daily, became president just a few years actually after I joined,\nbecause there was no one else to take the job at that time. Hadassah in Atlanta\nis a very large group now. But at that time, I think we had just about barely\n300 ladies in the organization. But we were very active. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10410.0,10440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that sparked my\ninterest in Zionism. I learned a good deal about what Israel was about and the\nfact that the Jews have always wanted a homeland, and they were always sent away from one country to the next. We know even in recent times what happened, and at that time we didn't have anything as horrible as the Holocaust, but in every country, practically, the Jews were thrown out. Even in England, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10440.0,10470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there were a certain number of years in which Jews were not allowed to come in. So it was natural that I should follow that course. After that . . . did you want me to continue? I think I began to see some other aspects other than just this one of being interested in something of my own, of the people to which I belonged, not just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10470.0,10500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the religion, but the humanitarian aspect.\n\nDIAMOND: Before we go to another organization or another train of thought, let\nme ask you a question about this. You mentioned that attribute your being able\nto go out in the world to the fact that you had very good household help that\nyou could trust. 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They manage it beautifully, and I'm not at all ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10530.0,10560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"worried about when I see somebody come to that meeting that her children are being neglected, or that\nher husband is being neglected. I think it's a different age. It's a different time. As far as I'm concerned, I'm a feminist to the core. I believe that every woman should be trained to have a profession or at least some method by which she can earn a living because morals have changed . . . everything has changed\nto such a degree in the last ten years. 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This is becoming, I think, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10920.0,10950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more prevalent. I can't tell you what will happen in the next decade. In the next decade, the women may be the ones who are dying first because of the stress. But at the present time, we know from statistics that there are many, many more widows than widowers, and that women are coming into their own. Women for the first time in history are having equal opportunities for education. So when you go to a graduation now of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10950.0,10980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"any big school--what we call the important schools--you'll see just about as many women as men, and they're not taking just art or music. They're taking all the different kind of courses, the science courses and the technology courses. So as far as I'm concerned, I would love to be a young person in this generation.\n\nDIAMOND: This generation would suit you better than your own?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, very much better. I can't complain about mine, because I've had a\ngood husband and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=10980.0,11010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what I think is a life which has given me some opportunities.\nBut if I chose it . . . if I had a choice to be in that generation or this one, I think I would see that this generation has all the opportunities.\n\nDIAMOND: What do you see as the key to success for women?\n\nTAYLOR: I couldn't answer a question like that at all, because each one of us\nhas faults and then we have fine qualities, and sometimes ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11010.0,11040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the faults help us to\nget ahead. Sometimes a person who has the kind of personality that's very abrupt and direct in the kind of business that he has is better than if he was amiable and sociable and took time to talk with you and took time off to go to play golf and all that kind of thing. So I don't know what it takes. I think each person has different qualifications to do ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11040.0,11070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"different things. One of the good things of this era is that people are given tests by the psychologists as to what their\nabilities are. We were very good friends of the Januses--Dr. [Sidney] and Mrs.\n[Leah Shapiro] Janus. He was an industrial psychologist, and he tested every single person that went into the Delta ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11070.0,11100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Air[line] service. They never hired anybody\nunless they went through this test, which took a few hours, to find what their\nqualifications were. That is the part of our society which will make people do the work that they're qualified for, rather than just what their father did or what their father wants them to be. I have another very good example at home. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11100.0,11130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have a brother [Samuel] who had his Ph.D. First, he got his Bachelor's, and then he got his M.D. Then he got his Master's in psychology; then he got his Ph.D. in psychology. He then took special courses in . . . with a man whose name I forget who's very famous as a psychoanalyst. This was not the field for him at all. His whole ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11130.0,11160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"personality changed. He was a different person when he became this \"god.\" He thought he was God. When he was younger, he was a dreamer. He was a completely different kind of person. But this is the field that he went into, and I don't think it suited him at all. I think it really hurt him, even though he had a measure of success in his field. But he did not have a measure of success with his family, with his ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11160.0,11190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wife, with his child. So he should have been tested. He never should have taken medicine, certainly not psychology.\n\nDIAMOND: So suitability as well as education is a key to success?\n\nTAYLOR: That's about the only way that I could describe it.\n\nDIAMOND: I was thinking in terms of whether you saw education as the way for\nwomen out of the roles that they had before.\n\nTAYLOR: Education is good for everything. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11190.0,11220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can't think of any field--even for\nmorality--and that's far away from the subject that we're talking about. In every way, I think education is good because I think that ignorance is really the source of all the troubles that we have--everything.\n\nDIAMOND: You mentioned success with the family. Can you describe successful\nfamily life?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11220.0,11250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TAYLOR: I think successful family life is when the wife and the husband, even\nthough they're different in every way--which is the case in my case--my husband\nand I are very different, but they both give each other a certain amount of leeway to express themselves in their own way, not have to do what one or the\nother says, in other words, where the man is absolutely the dominant figure or\nthe woman is the dominant figure. 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When you know a lot of people in various countries and you've seen a great deal in the--I guess you would say--40 years that I've traveled, you begin to have a feeling of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11400.0,11430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what happens in families. In other words, you know the families. So I know some families in Paris, because I lived there for a summer. I know some families in Quebec [Canada]. I lived there for a summer. I know families in Atlanta. I know families where our relatives live. So I have a fair perspective. 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All ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11460.0,11490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the children are going to schools and other places. They're visiting. It's the automobile and the airplane that's made everything different in this country. Any average person . . . for example, my husband has a driver. He said to my husband when he engaged him, \"Mr. Taylor, I'd love to take this job, but I've been promising my wife to take her on a boat trip on August 16.\" He said, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11490.0,11520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I can't take a job if I can't get that week off.\" So you see, everyone wants to travel and everyone does travel. That broadens perspective. It gives you a better view of what the world is like. It also gives you a better view of people in general. That is one of the things that is good and bad. We have a lot of accidents. It's very difficult to travel on our highways. But it has made ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11520.0,11550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people better acquainted with what goes on. In connection with that, one of the things that bothers me a great deal, more almost than anything else in our government, is that people, the right people, don't vote. That's when I started becoming interested in government, legislation, and in the League of Women Voters.\n\nDIAMOND: Do you think that government is the answer for our drug ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11550.0,11580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"problem and our drug culture?\n\nTAYLOR: Not at all. I just think government can do more than it has done. They\nare beginning to do it. They're going to have sanctions against the countries that import. They're going to put more people to watch out for these . . . actually, I call them criminals, the importers. I've also read that people who are under drugs are going to get it one way or another. But it has to start from the source. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11580.0,11610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If it comes in and it's available, they'll get it. Government has not done enough to keep us from having these drugs brought in from all parts . . . from South America, from Colombia. It's coming in by boatloads. It's a very big ocean and it's a lot of trouble to keep them from coming in. But you can do something about Colombia and its imports. You have sanctions and do things to that government so that they take care of it on their ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11610.0,11640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"side. We cannot possibly take care of it just on our side. That's why I think government is responsible.\n\nDIAMOND: In some communities, like in Europe or Switzerland, they don't have the drug problem that we do here in the United States. I am not as knowledgeable as you are but in things like pornography and all where it's legal, it's not so much of a problem as where it's illegal. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11670.0,11700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I just read in the paper this morning that nearly 5,000,000 illegal immigrants are in this country today . . . 4,700,000 people . . . illegal immigrants. If you have that many people coming in, imagine how much of these drugs can come in without anybody knowing it. What we have to do is one government has to do something to the other government. That's why I believe that that's the first way. It ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11700.0,11730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seems to me that for the first time, Mr. [Ronald] Reagan, whom I do not like in many ways, but evidently a great deal of pressure has been put on him. I do believe they are going to do something about it. Not that they'll ever eradicate it. I don't believe that. But they certainly can make it better than it was because they're picking up tremendous amounts of cocaine and of the other drugs now. Every day you read about some. It always has to do with one ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11730.0,11760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or two people at the top, and they're the ones who are not caught. It's not an easy problem. I don't think it'll go away easily, but it can certainly be minimized.\n\nDIAMOND: Let me ask you a question about family life in Israel. You said you'd\nvisited there many times and that affected some of your choices. You talked\nabout ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=11760.0,11790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henrietta Szold and the orphans in Israel.\n\nTAYLOR: Actually, we were there . . . I believe it was just twice. It was just before the war . . . what was that . . . 1967 or 1968? Then we were there before\nthat. Naturally, at the first time we saw all of the ruins along the wayside. 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It's just miraculous, to have seen it like we did just at the beginning, and then to have seen it . . . and then, that was just in the Sixties . . . 1967, and that's 20 ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12030.0,12060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years ago. So I'm sure now it must be just like Five Points is here. The cars must be all over everywhere.\n\nDIAMOND: Let me ask how you feel things are going to go in the Middle East with the Arab-Israeli conflict.\n\nTAYLOR: I'm not optimistic at all. So I'd rather not talk about it because that's not the way to look at it. But I don't see how it's possible for them to get together. Thousands and thousands of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12060.0,12090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"acres of land all around, thousands of Arabs all around them, and this little tiny place in the center. I just don't see how it's possible for them to do anything but build enough machine guns and\nairplanes and all to try to protect themselves. That takes billions of dollars.\nI just don't know how long that will go on. I just cannot ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12090.0,12120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"see that. By the way,\nif there was one brilliant leader of all of the Arabs, I could see where it\nwould happen but the Arabs don't get along among themselves. You can make peace with this one and this one, as we did let's say with Egypt, and now there is another that is trying . . . he isn't having very much luck. Then all the others\ndon't get along. Look what's happening in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12120.0,12150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lebanon. You have the Christians and\nthe Arabs killing each other. They're absolutely killing each other out.\n\nDIAMOND: What do you think is the American Jewish responsibility towards Israel?\n\nTAYLOR: I couldn't say what their responsibility is. I think it has to do with each individual. I think each individual has to decide whether they want to give of their means to help keep those people who had to go there ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12150.0,12180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because they had no\nother place to go. By the way, they don't have three or four wives, and they don't have six or seven children. They have one or two children. So with all these Arabs and with all the children the Arabs are going to multiply like rats, and the Jewish community is going to remain almost the same. There are very few--except for the Orthodox--and they're a minority. By the way, I'm not very\nhappy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12180.0,12210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about that, either.\n\nDIAMOND: That was my next question.\n\nTAYLOR: Because with that Orthodox minority, they are really creating a tremendous amount of trouble, more trouble than their numbers call for. If you\ncan't have peace right there among the Israelis, then it's just like a house divided against itself.\n\nDIAMOND: Their attitude is definitely not Planned Parenthood.\n\nTAYLOR: Their attitude is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12210.0,12240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"completely different. They're ultra, ultra-Orthodox\nand they have some very strange ideas. It's in that area that I became so very\ninterested in a book by Will Durant. You may recall, if you're old enough, you will remember that about 40 or 50 years ago, Will Durant was the outstanding philosopher. He wrote 10 or 12 volumes of the history of the world. After that,\nhe wrote a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12240.0,12270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"book called The Lessons of History with his wife, Ariel. I read that\nbook, I guess twice. It's called The Lessons of History, and it's divided into many subjects. I read this book . . . about every ten years I read it again. There are things in here which he said--I guess this book is about 10 or 12 years old. I read them over and over and over again. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12270.0,12300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel as though if this man says so and I agree with it, then maybe something that I think has some merit. Because he expresses in words that I could never express to give background of all the history that he knows. I think it's just a marvelous thing. If you'll give me the time, I'd like to read a few things that he has to say. The two things that I like the best in this book because they touch me. One is religion and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12300.0,12330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"history and the other is art and history. Do we have time?\n\nDIAMOND: We definitely . . . I was just looking at my clock. You have time to\nread a brief portion for the religion and history. Then we'll take a break.\n\nTAYLOR: That will be fine. This starts by saying, \"Even the skeptical historian\ndevelops a humble respect for religion, since he sees it functioning and\nseemingly indispensable ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12330.0,12360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in every land and age. To the unhappy, the suffering,\nthe bereaved, the old, it has brought supernatural comforts valued by millions\nof souls as more precious than any natural aid. It has helped parents and\nteachers to discipline the young. It has conferred meaning and dignity upon the\nlowliest existence and through its sacraments has ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12360.0,12390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"made for stability by\ntransforming human covenants into solemn relationships with God. \"It has kept\nthe poor,\" said Napoleon, \"from murdering the rich, for since the natural\ninequality of men dooms many of us to poverty or defeat, destroy the hope and\nclass war is intensified. Heaven and Utopia are ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12390.0,12420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"buckets in a well. When one\ngoes down, the other goes up. When religion declines, communism rose. Religion does not seem at first to have had any connection with morals.\" This is the part that I thought most interesting. He says that at the beginning, apparently, and then he echoes Petronius, who echoed ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12420.0,12450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lucretius. You see, that goes way back into history. \"It was fear that first made the Gods, fear of hidden forces in the earth, rivers, oceans, trees, winds and sky. Religion became the proprietary worship of those forces through offerings, sacrifice, incantation and prayer. Only when priests use these fears and rituals to support morality and law did religion become a force vital and rival ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12450.0,12480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to the state.\" Then he goes into this in\nmuch more detail. But having read that, I did not take it upon myself to assume\nthat he didn't believe in God. I didn't take it upon myself to believe that he doesn't believe in the Five Books-- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12480.0,12510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what's it called . . . the Pentateuch. But I\ndo believe, from what he says here, that he is very much a humanist, like I am.\nI can't believe in a God in heaven. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12510.0,12540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can't believe that I can pray to God and\nhe'll give me something or not give me something. But I can believe as a humanist that if we had sufficient education and, under certain conditions, the\nfear of God and all ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12540.0,12570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the other things that makes for religion, would become less\nand less, and we would have more of a utopian world. I as a Jewess consider\nmyself a Jew. I don't go to services. This happened in more recent years, of\ncourse. I'm very close friends of the rabbi and his wife, Reva and Harry Epstein. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12570.0,12600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One day I said to him, \"Rabbi,\"--I still don't call him Harry, although we know each other very well--\"how is it that you accept me and care for me so\"--which I can see in the way Reva calls me all the time and the way we feel about each other--\"when you have such a strong feeling in believing in God as a Jew and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12600.0,12630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I do not?\" So he reminded me of a story that I heard some time ago. I think everybody, nearly, has heard it, that a man who was very restless and didn't want to hear a long explanation of what is Judaism, came to Hillel. He said, \"Tell me while I'm standing on one foot what is real ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12630.0,12660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"religion. What is religion and God?\" The answer was---I don't know if I'm quoting it exactly, but the idea was, \"Do unto your neighbor what you would have done to yourself. All the rest is commentary.\" So I said ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12660.0,12690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to the rabbi, \"Then I believe that a great deal of what we read is commentary. I cannot go all the way. I don't know what it is. I know there's some great spirit that moves us. I know, too, that everything in this world counts for something, even from the little ant or the bee to the human being, but I'm not going to pray to God in heaven.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12690.0,12720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We left it that way.\n\nDIAMOND: He probably has a very strong respect for you as a human being and as a humanist. You probably have a lot in common where that's concerned.\n\nTAYLOR: I think we do.\n\nDIAMOND: It's time for a break.\n\nDIAMOND: Let's talk a little bit on this last part of the tape about your music\nexperience and how you came to choose that.\n\nTAYLOR: I have to think a little bit about how I came to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12720.0,12750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"choose it. I did have a\nmusical family in the sense that my father had a good voice and acted as the\nchazzan when they didn't have one. I also had a brother who wanted to study the violin. This was the brother that was the Ph.D. that I told you about. He was\nnot a good student at the beginning. My father ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12750.0,12780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said, \"When you get better marks\nin high school\" . . . it was mostly in geometry . . . \"When you get better marks\nin high school, then I'll get you a violin.\" Finally he got the violin and I think--I don't know--he used to fix the clocks in the neighborhood. [He] was able to get enough money to get a violin. Maybe my father helped him. I don't recall, because as ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12780.0,12810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I told you, I was so much younger and I wasn't involved too much. But my father, he was going . . . by this time, the time that I became really interested and wanted to get into music and do it a little more seriously . . . was playing by ear a good deal and had taken some lessons. I knew the rudiments. He didn't. He picked it up by himself. The ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12810.0,12840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"violin, it's been called . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Very difficult.\n\nTAYLOR: . . . the most difficult of all. So he learned to play, but he didn't have too much time during the day so he would do it at night after bedtime. He'd take it to bed and would practice and learned to play the violin without a teacher. I thought, \"If my brother can do that without a teacher, the least I can do ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12840.0,12870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is to work a little harder and do something with the piano.\" That, I think, in the last tape I told you about how I started with one teacher and then another. I found out that my best sense was my ear. I learned more through my ear than I did through my eyes. There are some people who can read a page and remember it just from the print. I never could. But if I heard something, then ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12870.0,12900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remembered it. To this day, it's that way. If I see something on the page, it makes no difference. If I read [and] if I don't say it out loud, I'll forget it. But if I say it out loud, I'll remember it. So naturally, music became a very great interest. I did study at Juilliard and I studied composition. I was interested and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12900.0,12930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I played many records and went to concerts and all of that. Then in more recent years we began to be exposed to the modern music. I tried-- I really did try--to like it. I would buy a Stravinsky record, and I would play it twice, a third time, fourth time. Somehow or other, at the end of the fourth time, I didn't know it any better--my ear-memory was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12930.0,12960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no better at the end, because it was not melodic, and also because the harmonies were so confused from the way we were taught. We were taught by very strict rules as to what goes together in harmony. I found another thing which I think is interesting in my story, and that is when I went to a movie and there was a lot of violence in the movie ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12960.0,12990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or if there was excitement . . . I liked the music, which was the same kind of modern stuff that we hear . . . some of the kind of music which is now being taught in the big universities. Yale [University, New Haven, Connecticut] and all the major universities now having teachers who are teaching the new harmonies and are doing what we call modern music. I'm not talking about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=12990.0,13020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rock and roll and all that. I'm talking about the classical music.\n\nDIAMOND: I was going to say this is definitely different from rock and roll.\n\nTAYLOR: No, this is completely separate.\n\nDIAMOND: I'd like a statement about rock and roll from you, too.\n\nTAYLOR: That is not really my concern because it makes so much noise. I don't\nlike anything that's very noisy. But the dissonance is also something which bothered me, even than just noise. If it's noise, I stop up my ears. But to listen to music by educated ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13020.0,13050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"musicians and not be able to listen and have to stop up my ears bothered me very much. In fact, the lady that I played dual piano with has a son-in-law who is just studying composition and teaching it at one of the big universities. His wife is a fine pianist. She sent home a record of one of his compositions. When I heard it, I couldn't tell that it was music. To me it just didn't sound like anything, to my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13050.0,13080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ear. It just doesn't register at all.\n\nDIAMOND: How do you think the computer age is going to affect your music?\n\nTAYLOR: Anyhow, when I read this book . . . I told you about how many things in\nthis book appeal to me . . . I was delighted to read this in the chapter under\ngovernment and history. In this, for some reason or other, it got on the subject\nof art. The ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13080.0,13110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reason is because he's speaking of what happens in a democracy. He starts off by saying, \"Is democracy responsible for the current debasement of\nart? The debasement is not unquestioned. It is a matter of subjective judgment.\nThose of us who shudder at its excesses, its meaningless blotches of color, its\ncollages of debris, its babels of cacophony\"--which is all kinds of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13110.0,13140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"noises together, or in pictures, all kinds of crazy things together--\"are doubtless imprisoned in our past and dull to the courage of experiment. The producers of\nsuch nonsense are appealing not to the general public, which scorns them as\nlunatics, degenerates or charlatans, but to gullible middle-class purchasers who\nare hypnotized by auctioneers and are thrilled by the new, however deformed.\"\nNow, this is about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13140.0,13170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"graphic art. \"Democracy is responsible for this collapse only\nin the sense that it has not been able to develop standards and tastes to replace those with which the aristocracies once kept the imagination and individualism of artists within the bounds of intelligible communication, the illusion and the illumination of light and the harmony ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13170.0,13200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of parts in a logical sequence and a coherent whole. If art now seems to lose itself in bizararies\"--bizarre things--\"this is not only because it is vulgarized by mass suggestion or domination, but also because it has exhausted the possibilities of old schools and forms, and flounders for a time in the search for new patterns and styles, new ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13200.0,13230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rules and disciplines.\" Now, after going through all that and saying that this cacophonies, this funny noises and all this, and how so many of us simply can't bring ourselves to listen to this new music, he says, \"All deductions having been made, democracy has done less harm and more good than any other form of government.\" This is under the chapter of government. \"It gave to human existence ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13230.0,13260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a zest and camaraderie that outweighed its pitfalls and defects. It gave to thought and science and enterprise the freedom essential to their operation and growth. It broke down the walls of privilege and class, and in each generation it raised up ability from every rank and place.\" This goes on and on in this way.\n\nDIAMOND: But this is what you told me is your philosophy?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13260.0,13290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TAYLOR: This is my philosophy. I cannot learn it, I cannot understand it, and I\ncan't enjoy it. To me, I could play a piece or hear a piece and it could make me\ncry or it could I feel like I was rising up in the air. This music, all it does is disturbs me. I keep wondering what will happen to this music: will it remain,\nor will something else be built on it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13290.0,13320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that will, let's say, continue for decades? Whether it's something new and some of the young people are getting used to it. I call it cacophony. To me, it's just a lot of jumbling of notes. I've tried to study it, by the way. I actually went to a private teacher in New York when I went to Juilliard to take up some of this new music and also learn how to do ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13320.0,13350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the runs and kind of things that you have to do to play the popular things, and I just couldn't get it. I couldn't absorb it. I had to go way over on the East Side, and finally I gave it up. That doesn't take in the rock music and all that. All that is definitely ephemeral. It will last a certain length of time, and then there'll be change. There will be something else. For the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13350.0,13380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"young people, the more noise it makes, the better they like it, because everybody now wants a high. They always want to be in a state of great activity. The movies and television and everything is geared to this excitement. Everything has to be very exciting. If it isn't exciting, the kids don't like it. If everything else changes, then this will change. If ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13380.0,13410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we go through changes through technology or through war or through whatever, then music will change and art will change. It's unfortunate that I can't like this better, because our son and his wife, whom I adore, are collectors . . . true collectors. They spend a lot of time going to the auctions in New York and in Chicago [Illinois]. They ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13410.0,13440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"admit that they're buying names because they know that these names can sell. So that they're not . . . sometimes they buy things which they think will have already had a beginning . . . a name which has already sold some pieces to the museums. They've already had offers of some of their pieces with substantial ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13440.0,13470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"increase. I think that they are not buying something just to decorate. That's what I think. Maybe they think differently. They say they like it. It's hard for me to believe that they like some of the things they have. I accepted the French Impressionists immediately. That was no trouble at all. [Vincent] Van Gogh and the entire group of the five there that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13470.0,13500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are all in France, all of them. It was no trouble at all. I accepted the Realists, the ones who drew pictures that\ndidn't look exactly like people that we knew, but when they were put together,\nthey were like caricatures. I accepted some of those. But when they came to\nthese Impressionists and Post-Impressionists, that's where I couldn't. I couldn't see how a Jackson Pollock could just throw paints together ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13500.0,13530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or pour them over on whatever it is, whether he does it on a canvas or paper or whatever, and\nthen call that a painting that's worth $100,000. I just couldn't believe it. Yet, after he died, he has gotten, I think, as much as $100,000 for his paintings. I cannot believe to this day that [Joan] Miró, who paints things like a little dot up here and circle here and a square here, or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13530.0,13560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some of those who do white on white and black on black--in Madrid [Spain], there were three gigantic rooms filled with these tremendous canvasses, black on black. That's all that was there. There were two or three different shades of black. They took up a whole wall in each room. I thought to myself, these people must be going crazy. Who wants to look at just black on black or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13560.0,13590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"white on white? So all of this, to me, it's just something that I can't comprehend. Yet I see what the universities are buying--not only the museums, but the universities. I was in Boston [Massachusetts] not long ago, and they had just bought some Post-Impressionist things, same names . . . a few of them, I'm familiar with that I thought were crazy when I saw them in Mark's house. I just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13590.0,13620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"don't know how to . . . I don't try any more to go to a lecture, because I don't get anything out of it. I did buy the book that the museum there had just printed with the Post-Modernists. I gave it to Mark and Judy. I looked through it. I looked at every picture. They were mostly in colors. I just simply didn't see anything there that I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13620.0,13650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would want to invest even a small amount in, unless I thought, \"This is a name and it's got to sell, in five years from now for five times what I paid for it.\" I might do that. But I would be very skeptical. I wouldn't want to put very much in it. So this is strictly a matter of taste, and maybe it's knowledge. [Neither] Mark nor Judy had any training in art, none whatsoever. That's our son and our daughter-in-law.  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13650.0,13680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nDIAMOND: Sometimes our children do the things they do just to be rebellious.\n\nTAYLOR: I don't think that they're rebellious. I do believe that they think they\nhave learned something about it that intrigues them. I think they're the kind of\npeople who wouldn't do this just to show off. I think our son and Judy both are\nvery intelligent. I think they're really buying as investments. That's my opinion. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13680.0,13710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think they'd be insulted if I said that to them, or maybe not. I don't know what if ever anybody has asked him that. But I find it very strange. The music, the same way. I don't believe--I know in my lifetime I can't change into it. If I haven't gotten it yet, as I grow older I think I'll like it less, because by this time I've gotten to the place that I don't listen to a lot of music at all. When ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13710.0,13740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you're studying and you're memorizing, if you get up at night and your ear is what is predominant, the music keeps going in your mind. I don't care . . . unless you have some very serious problems, this is the first thing that goes around in my mind. If I go to a concert and it's something that's very beautiful and I remember the tune, I'll get up four or five times during the night, and that's what I'll be doing. That's the way I used to memorize. I used to could memorize a full Beethoven sonata between ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13740.0,13770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"lessons. So now I don't want to hear music at night. I didn't know that anybody else was like that until I met somebody that told me the same thing.\n\nDIAMOND: So things have definitely changed over your lifetime?\n\nTAYLOR: Completely, completely.\n\nDIAMOND: Can we talk about how lifestyles and dating and getting along, the male and female issues, the sexual morality and the sex ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13770.0,13800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before marriage and all this? There are very few people of your generation that can even discuss sex. I\nthought that I might ask.\n\nTAYLOR: I can discuss it very well. As a matter of fact, I would say about 50\nyears ago--I go in decades, you see, at this time--a short time after I was\nmarried, about five or ten years, I guess--I call that a short time--I belonged\nto a little group of . . . ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13800.0,13830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't remember who they were even now. I just remember it very, very faintly. It was a book club. We'd read a book, which\npeople are doing today, and then we'd discuss it. During that time, there was a\njudge--I wish I could remember his name . . . who came . . . in those days, they\nhad sometimes a few speakers ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13830.0,13860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who used to make rounds all over the country. I've even forgotten the word that they used for this thing. It had a special term.\nInstead of the political speakers we have now, the subjects were general. This\nspeaker, among the things that he talked about, were about the need for a\ndifferent attitude ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13860.0,13890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by parents with regard to their children who were getting\nmarried very early and didn't have time to mature so that they would know if\ntheir marriage would be permanent or would be stabilized. At that time, we did\nnot have pills and all the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13890.0,13920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things that are available to women now for contraception. He said, \"The way it seems to me it would be logical would be if\na young man is going to college, cares very much for a girl who is going to\ncollege, each parent . . . if they were to have a trial marriage, and the boy's\nfather and mother would support him, and the girl's father would support her.\nThey would have a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13920.0,13950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trial marriage with the objective of not having children until\nthey consummated the marriage, then we would have a better society.\" That was the first time I'd ever heard anything like that. There weren't questions and\nanswers, as I recall. I don't think so. But when I went to this meeting of the book club, I said, \"That is what I think makes sense because ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13950.0,13980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people . . . the young college age, certainly even before that . . . is the time of romance. It's the time when especially the male has a sexual need that expresses itself in such a way that he really cannot control it, so he has to go to a whorehouse or find some way . . . some outlet.\" I said, \"Religious ideas are spread ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=13980.0,14010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so that masturbation is . . . they tell a boy that he'll go crazy if he masturbates, when that's perfectly natural . . . \" I don't know if I used those words, but it was something like that.\n\nDIAMOND: Probably 50 years ago, you didn't . . .\n\nTAYLOR: I didn't use the word, that's right. You're right. But anyhow, I said, \"The natural processes at that time are not allowed to him, so he has to either do something that is against the rule, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14010.0,14040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/469","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which makes him immoral, because he tells\na lie. His parents don't know it. He can get a girl into a lot of trouble. It seems to me it's so much better if . . . they had condoms in those days . . . they did have--people who could afford it could always go to a doctor and have the pessary put in. That's what women ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14040.0,14070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/470","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who had small families for the most part did. They have a little pessary that they put in the vagina--\n\nDIAMOND: I've never heard of that.\n\nTAYLOR: You've never heard of a pessary?\n\nDIAMOND: Like the original IUD?\n\nTAYLOR: No, that's a completely different thing. This actually is like a little cup and it closes up in a certain place.\n\nDIAMOND: Like a diaphragm?\n\nTAYLOR: A diaphragm. I just misnamed it. But I think it has been called\n\"pessary.\" They had diaphragms, but only the rich. So naturally, the families\nwere ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14070.0,14100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/471","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"eight and ten children. The reason they were only eight and ten is because\nthe mother would nurse as long as she possibly could. If she nursed for as much\nas two years, the baby didn't come until the third year you see. So she could get by during her fertile period before she had menopause with eight or nine children. If she didn't nurse, then she had them every ten months. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14100.0,14130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/472","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyhow, I said, \"I think this would be a great idea,\" they jumped on me. I don't think I've ever had a group of people act like they did. They thought I was crazy.\n\nDIAMOND: You didn't see anything wrong with sex before marriage, and they did?\n\nTAYLOR: They thought it was most awful thing for me to believe that a girl and a\nboy could have a trial marriage and not really marry. They said, \"How can you\nbelieve in such a thing?\" It just seemed preposterous ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14130.0,14160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/473","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to them. To me it was the\nmost natural and best thing that I could think of. It's only natural that when I\nfound out about Planned Parenthood that, at last, I found . . . at least we have\nsame semblance of giving a woman the choice and the right not to have a baby\nwhen she doesn't want a baby. It gives the man a chance to have sex so that he\ncan do it without lying. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14160.0,14190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/474","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seemed to me the only way that we would have a decent world. I truly thought in my own mind that if there were no babies born who weren't cared for, in other words, that people had just the number of children they wanted, that we would eliminate misery . . . we would eliminate poverty. That would eliminate crime. That would eliminate . . . and I began to think of all the things that it would do, and I thought, \"Gee, that would be a wonderful ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14190.0,14220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/475","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"world.\"\n\nDIAMOND: So you can stop all the problems of the world?\n\nTAYLOR: I just thought it would solve everything. I do almost to this day. I think it's the most basic thing there is for the world to have. I think if even those poor Black people over there who are starving, all those poor Arabs, and there are plenty of them, and then plenty of others all over the world, if they didn't have eight or ten children to feed and they couldn't take care of them, if they had one or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14220.0,14250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/476","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"two children, they could probably get along very well and have food and have some advantages for the children, if they just had a very ordinary job and didn't make what we call a good salary or a good income.\n\nDIAMOND: Let me get back to the sex before marriage issue, because as I said\nbefore, it's rare that you can even talk about it with a woman your age. My mother thinks that all her children were immaculately conceived and we can't\neven talk about it . . . not quite that bad, but the mores of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14250.0,14280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/477","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"today where men and women do live together without being married, is that something that you're\ncomfortable with?\n\nTAYLOR: Absolutely. I think that girls that marry early, and boys especially that marry early, cannot possibly knew what marriage is like. As soon as the sex thing is over, as soon as that is over, they are always different. I don't care how much alike they are there are such differences that in nine cases out of ten, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14280.0,14310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/478","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as you see what's happening with the divorces. Now that women can make a living, earn a living, we're having--what is it--two out of five or three out of five divorces? They're not all marrying early, either. Here's young lady right here who has been engaged three or four times but hasn't married because she said after she found out what it was like, she knew that it wouldn't work. It's absurd, really, for young people not to have ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14310.0,14340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/479","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the privilege of being together and finding out what they're like and then having the privilege of parting . . . only that they won't have children. Now, when it comes to children, that's a different thing, if they haven't got sense enough to keep from having children. Then they've got to stay together.\n\nDIAMOND: Is this sexual revolution really all that different? Were people really\ndenying themselves the right to be together sexually 50 years ago?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. Yes. There's no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it. 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But women's clothes have changed in such a way that you would never be able to recognize a person in the way they dressed.\n\nDIAMOND: You can almost tell what year it is by the kind of clothes they wear.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14520.0,14550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TAYLOR: By the kind of clothes they wear. On the other hand, I remember in the\ndays of the colonialism in the South, the women used to wear very low-cut\ndresses. But that was only the very wealthy people who had, I guess, special\ndispensation from God. You never saw that in the average society. They didn't\nwear those real low-cut dresses. You saw the queens and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14550.0,14580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the duchesses and all . . . sometimes you'd see them in their portraits. But you didn't see women\nwearing those kinds of clothes in those days. So the changes have been so great during my lifetime. This is something that is not on this particular subject,\nbut my father was living with us after my mother died for a short time before he\ndied. She died at the age 51 and he at 54. 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He couldn't wait for me to come in to\ntell me of the wonders, of the great wonders . . . he heard Chicago that day . .\n. he heard a program ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14610.0,14640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from . . . New York . . . he heard a wonderful program. He\nheard a program from Miami [Florida]. It must have been a pretty radio with the\nearphones. He thought it was just the most remarkable thing. Now, imagine, just\n50 years ago or so that a man who was fairly worldly because my father used to\ngo to New York to buy, and so he traveled some, thought that that was just about\nthe greatest thing that ever happened. That was the radio.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14640.0,14670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/transcript/22398/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DIAMOND: I think we've had a wonderful conversation today. We're getting fairly\nclose to the end. I know you said 4 o'clock was your limit, so I'm going to put\na stop right here. Thank you so much for everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=14670.0,14700.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/annotation_set/431","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Esther Taylor [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/annotation_set/431/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eLiterally “Hear, [O] Israel,” Sh’ma Yisrael is often considered the most important prayer in Judaism. The first verse affirms the monotheistic essence of Judaism: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.”\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/annotation_set/431/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFounded in 1904, Shearith Israel began as a congregation that met in the homes of congregants until 1906 when they began using a Methodist church on Hunter Street. After World War II, Rabbi Tobias Geffen moved the congregation to University Drive, where it became the first synagogue in DeKalb County. In the 1960s, they removed the barrier between the men’s and women’s sections in the sanctuary, and officially became affiliated with the Conservative movement in 2002.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/annotation_set/431/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eCommercial High School began as a department of Girls’ High School in 1889 for girls who wanted to learn business skills. They taught bookkeeping, typing, math and history. It expanded to a four-story brick building on Pryor Street, and in 1910 became Atlanta’s first coed high school. It closed in June 1947.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/annotation_set/431/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eGirls’ High School was one of seven schools as part of the original Atlanta public school system. It opened in 1872, and was the only public school in the area exclusively for girls. It was a superb school academically, and had 104 rooms including science halls, laboratories, sewing rooms, a library, and outdoor classrooms. In 1947, Atlanta high schools became co-educational and Girls’ High was renamed Roosevelt High School.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/annotation_set/431/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBoys’ High School was founded in 1924 and is now known as Henry W. Grady High School. It is part of the Atlanta Public School System. It has had many notable alumni, including S. Truett Cathy, the founder of Chick-fil-A. It is located in Midtown Atlanta.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30352/file/98335/annotation_set/431/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRabbi Tobias Geffen (1870-1970) was an Orthodox rabbi and leader of Congregation Shearith Israel in Atlanta from 1910-1970. He is widely known for his 1935 decision that certified Coca-Cola as kosher. 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