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She was raised in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood alongside her parents, Esther and Jack Eisenberg. Her father, originally from New Jersey, moved to Atlanta at a young age. Alice grew up near Pulliam Street and shared her upbringing with her sister, Barbara, with whom she attended both Sunday school and Hebrew school. Alice’s childhood was deeply rooted in her faith. She and her family were active members of an AA synagogue, where they attended Friday night services regularly. At the age of eight, she spent a summer at Camp Blue Star with her cousin, Ellen Salisbury. Alice has two children—a daughter and a son, Keith—and became a grandmother at a relatively young age. Her daughter continues to reside in Sandy Springs, Atlanta, not far from Alice’s home.  \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eEllen Itsco Salisbury \u003c/strong\u003ewas born on October 5, 1940, in the back of a car en route to a hospital in Augusta, Georgia. She was raised in Thomson, Georgia, alongside her two sisters, Kay, the eldest, and Susan. Sadly, Kay has since passed away. A first-generation American, Ellen’s father, Izzy, was born in Russia in 1902, while her mother, Ida, had already settled in Atlanta with her sister, Esther—mother of Alice Sanders—and Esther’s husband. Ellen’s parents met in Atlanta while Izzy was participating in a work-study program at Georgia Tech. Although Ellen was raised in a largely non-religious household, she attended Camp Blue Star with her cousin, Alice, at the age of eight in the late 1940s and early 1950s. She has children with her husband, Carl, whom she married in 1967. She chooses to keep details about her family private in her oral history.  \u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eCousins Alice and Ellen spoke about their childhoods in Thompson, Georgia, and Atlanta, Georgia, respectively. 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Her father, originally from New Jersey, moved to Atlanta at a young age. Alice grew up near Pulliam Street and shared her upbringing with her sister, Barbara, with whom she attended both Sunday school and Hebrew school. Alice\u0026rsquo;s childhood was deeply rooted in her faith. She and her family were active members of an AA synagogue, where they attended Friday night services regularly. At the age of eight, she spent a summer at Camp Blue Star with her cousin, Ellen Salisbury. Alice has two children\u0026mdash;a daughter and a son, Keith\u0026mdash;and became a grandmother at a relatively young age. Her daughter continues to reside in Sandy Springs, Atlanta, not far from Alice\u0026rsquo;s home. \u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eEllen Itsco Salisbury \u003c/strong\u003ewas born on October 5, 1940, in the back of a car en route to a hospital in Augusta, Georgia. She was raised in Thomson, Georgia, alongside her two sisters, Kay, the eldest, and Susan. Sadly, Kay has since passed away. A first-generation American, Ellen\u0026rsquo;s father, Izzy, was born in Russia in 1902, while her mother, Ida, had already settled in Atlanta with her sister, Esther\u0026mdash;mother of Alice Sanders\u0026mdash;and Esther\u0026rsquo;s husband. Ellen\u0026rsquo;s parents met in Atlanta while Izzy was participating in a work-study program at Georgia Tech. Although Ellen was raised in a largely non-religious household, she attended Camp Blue Star with her cousin, Alice, at the age of eight in the late 1940s and early 1950s. She has children with her husband, Carl, whom she married in 1967. She chooses to keep details about her family private in her oral history. \u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eCousins Alice and Ellen spoke about their childhoods in Thompson, Georgia, and Atlanta, Georgia, respectively. Each has had very different Jewish experiences with their parents and paternal grandparents, but shares a link of their identical twin mothers.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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My name is Casey Fishman, and I am with cousins, Alice Sanders and Ellen Salisbury, who have agreed to participate in this oral history interview for the Esther and Herbert Taylor Oral History Project for the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum. Thank you both so much for your participation. I want to begin by talking to you a little bit about your backgrounds. I should say that this is a unique oral history because we have two cousins here today that can share their unique stories of growing up together. Can you please both begin by stating your names and where and when you were born? 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I was born July 8th, 1941, in Atlanta, Georgia, and I've been here all my life","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=40.0,51.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eELLEN SALISBURY:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm Ellen Itsco Salisbury, and I was born October 5th, 1940, in the back seat of a  Packard on the way to the hospital to Augusta [Georgia], because Thompson, Georgia, didn't have a hospital.  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Izzy pulled into what was a gas station/convenience store, what we would think of as 7-Eleven today, and ran in and said, “my wife's having a baby”. There was a Black woman in the store, as they say in the family, buying a loaf of white bread, and she was a midwife. She ran out to the car and delivered the baby. Me. Daddy called the doctor in Thompson and the doctor said, “She's had the baby, that's what you were going to the hospital for. Bring her home.” They turned around, and they came home, and daddy called back to the house in Thompson and said, “We’re coming home. We've had the baby”. So, we drive back to the house. The neighbors have rushed in because word spreads fast in a small town. They're all standing there, and they get momma out of the car. Of course, she's just given birth in the back seat of a Packard, so they get her in the house. Then there's this...they tell this story...There's this conversation among the neighbors. What about the baby? What about the baby? They were so concerned about momma, and they left the baby in the car. So, the baby was brought in and here I am 83 years later to tell the story. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=80.0,179.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e Amazing. What a story. And there was a midwife in the convenience store. What happened once you were brought home? Was there a midwife in the community or a nurse or a doctor that was able to come over? 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It's the same time that daddy is coming home with the new baby, who got left in the car, they've lost the other child who's the first grandchild. There was like a big alert and everybody in town was looking for Kay who ended up – ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=191.0,248.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm assuming she was found. 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They were in construction business and they built the house on Homestead Avenue. I didn't realize it at the time, but it was a predominantly Jewish neighborhood. I think maybe 1 or 2 were not. I didn't realize that. But, you know, in 1940, it was right after the war. Jewish families wanted to stay together. So, I grew up and I never left Atlanta. My kids were both born here. My daughter, thank goodness, after college, she lives like just a few blocks away from me in Sandy Springs. I got to babysit, I was a grandmother. Actually, you met Keith [Sanders], he had the first child. She has just turned 31. I was a young grandmother, like at 50? 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Let me backtrack just a minute. Tell me how your family arrived in Thompson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=432.0,436.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e My dad was originally… I'm a first-generation American. My dad was born in Russia in 1902. 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My grandfather on my dad's side was a tailor, and he made beautiful fur coats. They were originally in New York City. Apparently, he was something of a radical. He got involved in some sort of activity where, as my uncle used to say, they rode him out of New York City, practically tarred and feathered. They went to Albany, and he became a tailor in Albany, New York, that's where my dad grew up. He went to Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute for two years and was the first one in his family to attend college. Then he came and did a work study program at Georgia Tech, and he met my mother, Ida, in Atlanta. She was living in Atlanta with Alice's mother and Alice's dad. 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Then she and my dad moved to New York, and they lived in New York City for a short period of time when he worked for Con Edison . It was at a period when they were not... They hired, and then they let people go and he was let go. He came back and settled in Thompson, Georgia and went into business with my grandfather, who owned Kunnes Department Store at Thompson, Georgia. We grew up in this little town. At the time that I was growing up, I think there may have been 5,000 people there. There was one traffic light, which my husband likes to talk about, and it flashed. It didn't even do red and green...it just flashed. There were very few Jewish families and there were a couple of families who had small clothing stores. But Grandpa Kunnes was an entrepreneur. We had what everybody said was the finest department store in town. There were two department stores, and we had the top department store. 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And he was a very, very prominent businessman and was involved in bringing several large industries to Thompson. He was involved with one of his friends that he made in Thompson with the waterworks and the electricity company. He and his friend owned a sawmill, which was the first business that was acquired by Georgia-Pacific . He became a part of the fabric of the community. I think that because of his prominence in the community, we were accorded a pass. We were Jewish. We were different, it was a predominantly Christian community. I never remember any overt antisemitism at all. We were just part of the community and my sisters, and all had non-Jewish friends. I didn't have a Jewish friend of any significance until I went off to college. 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My dad was pretty strict about, you know, we had to go to Sunday school. I went all through Hebrew school. We belonged to AA synagogue that was on... I just remember if somewhere on Pulliam Street where the Braves home was. Did you ever go to that synagogue?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=700.0,732.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe for... 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A lot of my friends that I'm still real close with now are still in Atlanta. We went to our Sunday school and Hebrew school. You know, we just did it, it was like a requirement of growing up. And like I said, in the neighborhood I lived in, everybody was Jewish except maybe 1 or 2. There was a next-door neighbor that owned the famous Rhodes Bakery . They didn't, they moved out, they didn't live there forever, but they were the only ones that were non-Jewish. But it was just amazing to think that I had a bat mitzvah. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=733.0,823.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e My religious upbringing was completely opposite. My grandfather was sort of anti-religion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=823.0,831.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e Tell me your grandfather's first name. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=831.0,832.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e Reuben. 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Every Sunday, we would get piled in the car and Daddy would drive for 30 miles to Augusta, and we would be taken to a religious school where we were taught the Shema . That was the total Hebrew that we knew. I mean, everything was in English. We figured out it was over 20 years, because there four years difference between me and Kay, and almost five between me and Susan, and every Sunday Daddy did this. What was so interesting is that Augusta was kind of a central point for a number of small rural towns and Jewish families from these small towns brought their children. Daddy had a group of friends of Jewish men from these small towns who brought their children in. He would go every Sunday to, there was a wonderful bakery, and pick up a rye bread to take back home to Thompson. He and his friends would have coffee and visit while we were in religious school. Then we'd get in the car and go back home. On Sunday evenings, because of all my non-Jewish friends who were mostly Baptist and Methodist and occasional Presbyterian and God forbid, no Catholics, they would have youth activities for their churches. I used to go, and I don't know where Kay and Susan went with their friends, but I was almost an active member of the Baptist Training Union  and the Methodist Youth Fellowship. I don't remember what the Presbyterians had. 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Because you'd gone back to Atlanta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=976.0,978.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh right. And believe me, I was in Sunday school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=978.0,981.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm assuming you visited each other. 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That's the only time I would hear her raise her voice about “slow down”. I think she called him Sunny. That was his nickname, I got the blue eyes from him. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1004.0,1021.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e So, you would visit. 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At one point in time, this, I think, is very interesting about Grandpa Kunnes and perceptions of him in the community. There were some people in the community during the war, the Second World War – I was born in 1940, so I don't have a memory of this. I've been told this story where people became suspicious of Grandpa Kunnes and Granny because they both had very thick accents. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1343.0,1370.87926"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e What was your grandmother's name? 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Daddy was very friendly with a number of businesspeople in the town because he lived there almost his whole adult life. He used to go fishing every year with a group of people from the... With his friends, he would go down to Cedar Key, Florida, and they would go on a Sunday morning. They would stop, and the men would go to church and Daddy would sit in the car and listen to the radio. He often said, he didn't name his friends, but he often said that he felt like a lot of people who were sitting on the front row in church on Sunday could be some of those same people with those white robes and those masks and the hat. There was that klan activity in Thompson. Of course, Mom and Pearl grew up, and Aunt Esther grew up in the 20s. They were born in 1909, and Pearl was born in 1907. There was a senator from Thomson, Senator Tom Watson , who was a known anti-Semite. He was very racist. I was talking to Keith about this when I saw him a month or so ago about whether Grandpa Kunnes and Tom Watson ever interacted. Because his daughter, Georgia, was one of Pearl's very best friends. I think that that would be a very interesting thing to pursue, is to have Senator Tom Watson and Aaron Kunnes interacted in Thompson Georgia in the 20s, 30s and 40s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1468.0,1574.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e But he was so highly respected, you know, it didn't matter. Whoever he came across, he was accepted and they accepted him. In fact, well, I'm sure you know this, and I was always in awe, I couldn't believe this. 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Well, that's to keep, I don't know if you've ever seen that, but to keep...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1648.0,1660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e I have seen photos of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1660.0,1661.16667"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah, he did that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1661.16667,1662.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e But there are a lot of instances of stories like that about Grandpa Kunnes, about how charitable he was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1662.0,1667.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e We were seven years old when he died, right? 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As I said, I didn't have Jewish friends of significance until I went off to college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1687.85714,1693.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e But you still got some of the same friends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1693.0,1698.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1698.0,1699.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e In terms of growing up Jewish in the South for both of you, I mean what were your experiences about segregation, integration? 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So, it was a Mecca for Jewish children from small towns all over the south. I went to Blue Star probably eight summers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1722.33333,1734.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1734.0,1735.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e For many, many years. Actually, my first camp experience, do you remember they had sent us off to Camp in Rutledge, Georgia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1735.0,1744.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e That was yeah, that was a rough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1744.0,1748.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e We were young, we must have been eight or nine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1748.0,1749.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but thank goodness we were together. I think it was just only one session. One summer we went and then Blue Star. I don't know the Popkin’s… You might remember, let me ask you. When were you there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1749.0,1766.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e In the 90s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1766.0,1767.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e 90s, oh my gosh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1767.0,1768.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e I was there in the late 40s and the early 50s,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1768.0,1772.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Not 40s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1772.0,1774.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Because I think I went when I was 11.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1774.0,1776.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I went, because I've got pictures, I've only seen. Do you have your camp pictures?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1776.0,1781.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1781.0,1782.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e I have them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1782.0,1783.33333"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not a saver but Alice is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1783.33333,1786.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, with the pictures...every time we to do have them...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1786.0,1789.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e We just you know...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1789.0,1791.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e It was wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1791.0,1793.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e I had very little Jewish affiliation other than Camp Blue Star.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1793.0,1798.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e And I had too much, if there's such a thing. When I look back on it...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1798.0,1804.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e I think there is too much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1804.0,1806.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, especially you have to go on Friday night. On Saturday we had the bar mitzvah and you know all the stuff. I'm happy that I did that. But you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1806.0,1815.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e What I'm curious about is how your family celebrated holidays. I don't know if you celebrated them together or what a Jewish holiday looked like in Thompson as opposed to how your family would have celebrated in Atlanta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1815.0,1829.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't remember too many how High Holy Days  together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1829.0,1833.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e No, we did...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1833.0,1834.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e A Passover Seder  or you know...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1834.0,1836.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e We always went to temple in Augusta for the High Holy Days, and we'd pile in the car, and we would be there all day for Yom Kippur . The middle of the day, there'd be like a little break, and we'd go out for lunch. My mother used to always have dry toast and tea. I can remember saying to her, well, that's kind of hypocritical. If you're going to eat, go ahead and eat lunch. I was always interested in food. We were there for all the High Holy Days and occasionally I must have been in Atlanta. I remember going to services with Alice, and they belong to a very conservative congregation, and we belonged to a very liberal…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1836.0,1879.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Reformed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1879.0,1881.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e ...congregation and couldn't get over in Alice's Synagogue, how everybody was walking up down the aisles. They were talking and somebody was mumbling Hebrew in the front. People were standing up and reading Hebrew and people are talking in the aisles. I just remember thinking, that is so rude. \r[00:31:44] Fishman:\tSo, did it seem like more informal in some ways?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1881.0,1907.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e No. It was just, maybe that's how it's done in Orthodox synagogues. I've never been in an Orthodox synagogue in my life, and I just thought that it was so different because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1907.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Actually, it was more conservative than Orthodox. I think there was reformed, conservative, and then orthodox.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1920.0,1928.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e We were very orderly at our Temple in Augusta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1928.0,1932.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Now that was just… That didn't go on for very long, then that must have been.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1932.0,1937.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know what it was. I just remember I have that memory of that and I remember it being so different. It was interesting, when my husband and I finally settled down, we were in Northern Virginia. We went to Falls Church, and we joined Rodef Shalom  in Falls Church, Virginia. The first time we went to services there, all the music was familiar, but the songs were in Hebrew. I knew all those songs in English, I did not know a bit of Hebrew, not one iota. I did have an adult bat mitzvah, and I did learn a little Hebrew. It went in one ear and out the other. But the prayers today are very familiar to me, but I can't read the Hebrew","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1937.0,1985.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e When did you have the bat mitzvah? That was about ten years ago?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1985.0,1988.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e Much longer than that. It was in the late 90s. It was before I retired. I did it with a group of women from my temple. We had group Hebrew lessons, and the women, the four of us, had private tutors because we all came from very peculiar backgrounds, and we had no Hebrew whatsoever. One had been brought up by communist parents in Chicago, one was converted from Catholicism and there was one who had been brought up Conservative, but had never learned Hebrew, and there was me who didn't know one Hebrew character from another. But we did it. \r","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=1988.0,2031.15385"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e That’s wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2031.15385,2032.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e I had the shortest Torah  portion in history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2032.0,2037.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e As far as the Hebrew, I mean, you had to memorize everything. It was hard because everything didn't always have, I guess the vowels or whatever, you know, to read. But the prayers and all for Passover, you know, we do it every year, so we know them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2037.0,2056.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e Right because you do it every year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2056.0,2057.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e Back to your question. We always had a Passover seder, we always had Hanukkah in Thompson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2057.0,2065.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e Was it possible to get Matzah in Thompson, did you have to go to Augusta or?\r[00:34:30] Sanders:\tYou'd have to go to Augusta?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2065.0,2072.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e You’d have to go to Augusta, absolutely. The thing that I remember is that they used to always buy a lot of extra boxes of Matzah. You know, it comes in the five-pound packages. There would always be a lot of extra boxes because Momma and Pearl and Granny used to give it to the neighbors because they thought it was kind of a treat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2072.0,2092.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2092.0,2094.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e Would you ever go to Thompson for Passover, or did you ever spend Seders together? \r","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2094.0,2099.3125"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e No, because we had our own seders. My mother had them, and we had a lot of family. There was the four of us, then when we got married and had the children and grandchildren, it just never worked out to go to Thompson. That's interesting though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2099.3125,2114.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e We never did holidays together. I always wanted a Christmas tree. Always","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2114.0,2122.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you ask your parents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2122.0,2124.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course, and we never had a Christmas tree, but the house had a big center hall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2124.0,2129.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e It was so beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2129.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e And it would have been the perfect place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2130.0,2135.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e There is probably a Christmas tree there now.  Is the house still there? Does someone live in it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2135.0,2139.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e It is still there, and someone bought it. I understand they have a beautiful Christmas tree every year in that house. The first year that I lived in Atlanta after college, I had a non-Jewish roommate, and she didn't want a tree, and we talked her into a tree. My friends were always very jealous of Hanukkah because...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2139.0,2161.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e It was eight nights.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2161.0,2163.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Eight presents. Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2163.0,2166.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e How would you celebrate Hanukkah with your parents or grandparents make latkes  or do you light the candles?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2166.0,2171.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e The whole thing, the dreidels, the candles, the presents. The whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2171.0,2178.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, just this year, I got Laurie's grown up, her son and daughter and they're both out of college. I got them each a menorah this year because they live alone. The one I found for Hunter, it’s raw iron, very masculine looking, really nice. They were just thrilled.  Laurie and Chandler, I got a real pretty Lucite. I think it's something they'll say their grandmother bought them this. I should have told you I just got them each.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2178.0,2213.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e I have two sons who will be turning 50 and 54 and neither one of them has set foot in the temple in years. They went all the way through a religious school, they all had bar mitzvah.  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Have you been back in recent years, just to visit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2391.0,2396.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e It’s hard, we've been back. 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We had a family there who came from Austria, from Vienna, and they were there a number of years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2443.0,2451.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e I remember his heavy accent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2451.0,2453.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. But I think that she must have been buried in Augusta because there are Jewish cemeteries in Augusta. Probably more than one. 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What did you all call him? Uncle Jack? We would go to this playground, don't you remember? The park. You know, we were each... We tried to outdo one another. Remember that thing we would climb up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2468.0,2485.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e It was a big, it was so much fun when the cousins would come from Atlanta. 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You know, school was out in May and we just kind of wandered around. 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I remember we were just very much a part of the fabric of the community. I have friends that I haven't seen in a long time, but a fellow that I grew up with, he lives in Augusta now. His mother, well his dad actually. His dad, and Momma, and Aunt Esther went all through school together. His dad's older sister was friendly with Pearl. So, when I used to take my children down to Thompson, I would see Jimmy and Ellen and their children. They lived out in the country, and we would take the children out there. It was like three generations. There were just those connections, and I don't think families have those connections today that people had then. 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There were a lot of good stories about the store. Grandpa Kunnes originally bought a building on one side of the street, and he outgrew that. Then he bought another building across the street, actually two buildings, and combined them and made the store. I was there my whole life, my whole life. I just...I loved it. We had one of those old-fashioned fancy-looking cash registers with the drawers. [00:47:56] Fishman:\tRight. I can picture that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2837.0,2876.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFishman:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. 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That was really unique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2934.0,2935.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e I had to stand on a stool to do that, and I just loved it. 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Something else that was interesting about growing up in Thompson is that it was 30 miles from Augusta, with the Masters. When the Masters golf tournaments started, people in Thompson, everybody had tickets. Now tickets are like gold, you can't even get them. We used to close... They used to close school because everybody would want to go to the Masters. I went every year for years and years and years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=2969.0,3004.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, Pearl. 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She called, and they said, ‘Well, Mrs. Itsco, we're sorry, but the tickets were in your husband's name and he's no longer alive. We're not issuing tickets.’ They watched the obituaries because they were trying to figure out how to get more people to buy the tickets. But to me, the most interesting thing about the Masters has to do with the house in Thompson. The Masters golf course was built on the site of a nursery called Fruitland Nursery. They were famous for camellias. When they sold the property, Grandpa Kunnes and his friend Paul Bowden took a truck, they tell the story. They took a truck and a couple of colored boys with them, and they went to Fruitland Nurseries , and they bought camellias. 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It was just so lovely to hear stories. We appreciate your participation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=3369.0,3376.44444"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSanders:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, thank you. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349#t=3376.44444,3376.96296"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/152862/file/281349/transcript/81577/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSalisbury:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you for having us. 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