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Were they both born in Atlanta?\n\nTAYLOR: Both born in Atlanta. Yes.\n\nPLASKER: That's quite a feat in this day and time. Where did their families come\nfrom? Do you know?\n\nTAYLOR: Not entirely. Dad's history, it was one of those things they never told\nus much about. I think ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that Mother's family may have been Lithuanian and my\nfather's [family] Russian, but I am not sure.\n\nPLASKER: They both have an oral history. We can refer back to the Esther Taylor\nhistory and the Herbert Taylor history.\n\nTAYLOR: I know that my father's father was sent out of Russia to keep him of the\nCzar's army, as they did that in those days. He came here with an English\n(Welsh) high school education, which is why we are named Taylor instead of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chait\n[name in Russia].\n\nPLASKER: You were born in 1928 just before the [Great] Depression. Where were\nyour parents living when you were born?\n\nTAYLOR: I don't exactly remember [probably on 10th Street, Atlanta]. But when I\nwas six months old, they moved to Claire Drive.\n\nPLASKER: Which is what part of Atlanta?\n\nTAYLOR: What do they call it now? Mother used to call it Druid Hills but it was\na little bit too close to Decatur to really be Druid Hills. It was between Druid\nHills in the much poorer area [somewhat more modest area]. I think they call it\nLake Claire ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"now.\n\nPLASKER: You were definitely north of the stadium where so many people started.\n\nTAYLOR: We were not on the south side of town. I think my parents were living\nsomewhere on North Avenue [probably 10th Street] when I was born.\n\nPLASKER: You lived in the Druid Hills area after you were about six months old?\nYou stayed there for a pretty good while?\n\nTAYLOR: I think until I was 15 or so [maybe 13 or 14].\n\nPLASKER: Were there any siblings?\n\nTAYLOR: No siblings.\n\nPLASKER: An only child?\n\nTAYLOR: An only child. I was a Depression child.\n\nPLASKER: What did your mom and what did your dad do at the time when you were\ngrowing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up?\n\nTAYLOR: My father had a drug store. He was a pharmacist.\n\nPLASKER: Your mom stayed at home and raised you?\n\nTAYLOR: My mom did not work. Actually, when I was very young, Mother did work. I\nthink she worked in the drugstore. I think she taught Hebrew and taught piano.\nMother was involved in other activities.\n\nPLASKER: Volunteer activities?\n\nTAYLOR: I didn't see much of my mother.\n\nPLASKER: Coming and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going? What type of Judaism do you remember in your home?\nDid you have Shabbat dinners? Did you go to regular services every week or did\nyou just go on the holidays? What was your family's Jewish connection and observance?\n\nTAYLOR: My family was not at all observant. They were close to the Jewish\ncommunity in a lot of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ways. My mother was distantly related to Rabbi [Harry]\nEpstein, or rather, to his wife [Reva]. She may have been involved in some way\nin bringing them here. My mother's father was one of the founders of Shearith\nIsrael. My father's father was the first secretary of AA [Ahavath Achim]. So,\nthere was a connection with the synagogues.\n\nPLASKER: You had some AA connection and Shearith Israel. Did you belong to\neither one of those?\n\nTAYLOR: I think we probably just belonged just to AA, but Mother's brother\nbelonged to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Shearith Israel. I did the mandatory trips to the synagogues. On\nHigh Holy Days, I recall walking backward and forward between the two on\nWashington Avenue. I assume my parents went to services but not much.\n\nPLASKER: Do you remember your mother lighting candles in your house? Do you\nremember challah on Friday ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"night or things like that?\n\nTAYLOR: Probably not. Maybe when I was very young.\n\nPLASKER: Only your parents live with you? Not grandparents or anyone else?\n\nTAYLOR: That's correct. Remember, Mother taught Hebrew school, so she was well\naware of all of the observances.\n\nPLASKER: Where did she teach?\n\nTAYLOR: I have no idea.\n\nPLASKER: She just went and taught.\n\nTAYLOR: That was very early on in her marriage, possibly before I was born.\n\nPLASKER: Did you have a bar mitzvah?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did.\n\nPLASKER: Where was that?\n\nTAYLOR: At the AA.\n\nPLASKER: That was around 1941?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. I actually did not go to the AA Sunday school. I went to The Temple\nSunday school until they kicked me out.\n\nPLASKER: Why did they kick you out?\n\nTAYLOR: My parents were Zionists. At that time, Rabbi [David] Marx had joined\nthe [American] Council for Judaism and, apparently, I was too ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"talkative.\n\nPLASKER: You had different views than he had? What was the Council for Judaism?\n\nTAYLOR: That was a group that a number of Reform rabbis joined. Not a number,\nbut some. It was an anti-Zionist group that took the position that the Zionists\nwere destructive to American Jews and it was problematic to them. I don't know\nenough about it to really describe it. [The council opposed Zionist efforts to\nestablish the State of Israel as making American Jews seeming to have dual loyalties].\n\nPLASKER: Your family was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"attending The Temple and had this break with Rabbi Marx\nover this philosophy?\n\nTAYLOR: I am not sure whether they had the break or I had the break. I\napparently talked up too much in class. Marx talked to me a couple of times and\ntold me that I would have to redo the class or something of that sort.\nBasically, that I was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anathema. About that time, he joined the Council for\nJudaism. My parents dropped out of The Temple in protest [the reason was the\nCouncil for Judaism position, not my learning at the Sunday school] expecting a\nlot of people to drop out with them. Nobody else did.\n\nPLASKER: They were very great. They obviously had their feelings.\n\nTAYLOR: Mother did not care a lot. We were Russian Jews, and there were not many\nRussian Jews there at that time anyhow [not many Russian Jewish Temple members].\n\nPLASKER: Your father was a pharmacist and had a drug store. Did you ever work in\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"store with him?\n\nTAYLOR: I did. I probably started during junior high school. Early on, I caught\ncurbs. I know that has no meaning now, but people used to drive up in front of\nthe drug store and order things from the soda fountain, and we would hang trays\non the cars.\n\nPLASKER: Yes. Like we used to go to The Varsity and they would hang the tray out.\n\nTAYLOR: Exactly. Curb service. 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When I\ncame home in the afternoon, she would be practicing the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"piano. She was one of\nthe fortunate ones. She had a car. She was usually either away or at home and\nresting. She would rest in the afternoon and then practice. I saw my parents at dinner.\n\nPLASKER: Where were you going to school?\n\nTAYLOR: I remember they [my parents] had full-time help in those days who stayed over.\n\nPLASKER: I was going to say, it sounds like somebody was taking care. Who did\nyou confide in? Who gave you advice? Who did you turn to when you had a problem\nwith a kid at school or something? The ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people who watched you or your parents?\n\nTAYLOR: I don't think there was anyone in those days.\n\nPLASKER: In those days, you just kept it to yourself?\n\nTAYLOR: You weren't expected to be ...\n\nPLASKER: Where did you go to school? Where did you go to grammar school?\n\nTAYLOR: I went to grammar school. How much of this ought to be put in here? I\nwent to grammar school at a school called Mary Lin [Elementary School]. It was\nnamed after the principal. It was just a few miles from home. It was close\nenough so that we walked home from school every day. We lived in Atlanta, DeKalb\n[County]. We were near the line between unincorporated Atlanta. Atlanta ran ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"down\nthe middle of the street that we lived on. At one end of the drive, everyone\nwent to Atlanta schools. The other end of the block, everyone went to DeKalb\nCounty schools.\n\nPLASKER: Were there many Jewish kids in your school?\n\nTAYLOR: There were no Jewish kids in grammar school. As soon as I got to junior\nhigh school, there were plenty. Mostly girls.\n\nPLASKER: Where was that?\n\nTAYLOR: That was Bass Junior High School. 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I don't remember his name.\n\nPLASKER: Steinhammer and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Revson?\n\nTAYLOR: A little bit further up as you began to get into the true Druid Hills,\nthere were several others. Judy Alexander, who was the baby in the carpool. I\nthink Ted Levy may have been in that car pool. They lived further up Ponce de\nLeon [Avenue] towards Atlanta back in what really is Druid Hills. 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Gene Allan ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Klein lived there, but they were\nnot in the same carpool.\n\nPLASKER: Because there were so few Jewish families in this area, did you\nexperience any antisemitism either in school or among the neighbors at all?\n\nTAYLOR: Probably, but I don't remember much in the way of antisemitism. There\nweren't enough of us.\n\nPLASKER: It didn't affect you directly. Your parents might have known, but you\ndidn't find anything yourself?\n\nTAYLOR: I really wasn't particularly aware of it.\n\nPLASKER: That's good.\n\nTAYLOR: I knew you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kept a low profile. I know that we didn't have a Christmas\ntree and everybody noticed. I knew that my friends got Christmas presents and I\ndidn't. I was reminded of that from time to time.\n\nPLASKER: You had help in the house. This was a fairly nice economic area.\n\nTAYLOR: We knew we were different. I knew we were different and I knew why, but\nI think I probably suffered the same kind of suffers. In other words, I think I\nprobably ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"encountered the same kind of thing young boys do as they grow up into\ndifferent groups.\n\nPLASKER: You felt you were part of any group you wanted to be friends with in\ngrammar school or high school? You didn't feel ostracized from being invited to\nsomeone's house or anything like that?\n\nTAYLOR: I'm not sure.\n\nPLASKER: You had help in the house, so it was obviously a fairly affluent\nneighborhood. 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I just buried her last ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=750.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"year.\n\nPLASKER: Oh my goodness.\n\nTAYLOR: She was a remarkable woman. She had two children of her own at the other\nend of the car line and a sister that helped take care of them. No husband. Had\na husband. But she was really a remarkable woman with remarkable values. So, I\nwas in good hands.\n\nPLASKER: We talked a little bit about where your family belonged and there was\nthis conflict ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=780.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"over the politics with the rabbi. Your mother was involved in most\nof the type of activities? Your parents were involved in were more political or\nmore Zionist or more volunteer, helping community, or a little of everything?\n\nTAYLOR: There was a group of very active women in Atlanta. She was one of them.\nThey were each in turn president of Hadassah and each in turn. Mother had that\nactivity, and then she had activities in the non-Jewish community. 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In my opinion, it was her acceptance in the\nnon-Jewish community that permitted her to move between the Russian and the\nGerman Jewish communities to the extent she could.\n\nPLASKER: Did your family belong to the Standard Club or the Progressive Club?\n\nTAYLOR: Earlier on, they belonged to either the Mayfair [Club] or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=840.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the\nProgressive. Later on, they joined the Standard Club.\n\nPLASKER: [Is that] where they spent more time, at the social clubs?\n\nTAYLOR: I don't think they spent a lot of time at either one.\n\nPLASKER: Obviously your father had a college degree. It was a pharmacy degree?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, I am sure he went to pharmacy school. In those days, you went to\npharmacy school for a year and a half or two years. If you stayed another half\nyear, you could practice some sort of medicine. But Dad was practicing pharmacy\nbefore he went to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pharmacy school. He got that . . .\n\nPLASKER: Kind of an apprentice type thing, I guess. Your mother, also was\ncollege educated?\n\nTAYLOR: No. Mother never went to college.\n\nPLASKER: Pretty self-educated. A remarkable woman.\n\nTAYLOR: Mother went to [The] Julliard [School] in the summertime to study music.\nShe also studied French. I think she was always unhappy about the fact that her\nbrothers were both professionals, and she never got college ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because she was a girl.\n\nPLASKER: What do you remember about the first day of school when you were\nlittle? Anything?\n\nTAYLOR: The first day of school is about the only one I remember because there\nwas a little girl up the street, and the two of us were taken to school together.\n\nPLASKER: Was it kindergarten or first grade, do you remember?\n\nTAYLOR: It was kindergarten. Atlanta [Public School] was K, C, 3, 3. 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It's the only\ntime I can remember her going there.\n\nPLASKER: Was there a graduation in the 6th grade when you left Mary Lin?\n\nTAYLOR: I have no idea.\n\nPLASKER: Then you went on to Bass High?\n\nTAYLOR: Bass ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Junior High. That's the second 3. K, 6, 3, 3.\n\nPLASKER: What was after Bass Junior? Boys High?\n\nTAYLOR: Boys' High School, yes.\n\nPLASKER: Which became [Henry W.] Grady [High School]?\n\nTAYLOR: After I left.\n\nPLASKER: [Do] any particular teachers stand out over the years?\n\nTAYLOR: Sure. A lot of teachers stand out.\n\nPLASKER: Who were the stand outs and why?\n\nTAYLOR: Oh my gosh. The stand-out teachers in grammar school would be the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pretty\nteachers. The stand-out teachers in junior high would be the mean teachers. The\nstand-out teachers in high school were the chemistry teacher and one English\nteacher. Eidson was the English teacher.\n\nPLASKER: Eidson?\n\nTAYLOR: Eidson. [He] just died last year.\n\nPLASKER: English teacher at Boys' High.\n\nTAYLOR: A teacher by the name of Heichow. In his field, he was the chemistry and\nphysics teacher, but he was a superior teacher. He was crazy as a loon, but he\nwas a superb ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"teacher.\n\nPLASKER: What type of influence did they have on you?\n\nTAYLOR: Just recognizing them as very good teachers.\n\nPLASKER: Obviously paying more attention to them then. They didn't have any\nparticular influence on where you chose to go to school or what you chose to do?\n\nTAYLOR: No. They didn't do that kind of consulting in those days.\n\nPLASKER: When you came home and did your homework and that kind of thing, you\ndid it all on your own? You got together with friends? Did your parents ever\nhelp you?\n\nTAYLOR: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. You did whatever you did on your own.\n\nPLASKER: You were at school all day. Did you come home for lunch?\n\nTAYLOR: Never.\n\nPLASKER: It was all day at school?\n\nTAYLOR: All day at school.\n\nPLASKER: The fact that it was the Depression or war time didn't affect any of\nthe timing of school? I mean, it didn't affect the way the school was run?\n\nTAYLOR: No. They just tried to get you through school faster.\n\nPLASKER: I guess they wanted the boys ready for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"war.\n\nTAYLOR: I'm not sure why, but they accelerated it.\n\nPLASKER: You were bar mitzvahed in 1941. By the time you were graduating high\nschool, World War II was over. There was never any . . .\n\nTAYLOR: World War II was over after I had gone to college. I was turning 17 when\nI went to college.\n\nPLASKER: In some of the areas we have covered, you mentioned you had some little\nthoughts that we might not have touched on. Why don't you talk about those?\n\nTAYLOR: Let me go back and do a little recapping, partly because it may not have\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"recorded and partly because some of the things that I think follow from some of\nthe questions you asked. We lived on Claire Drive, which was in Lake Claire,\nwhich was Atlanta-DeKalb. The DeKalb County line ran down the middle of the\nstreet. The Atlanta line ran down the middle of the street, so the other end of\nthe street was DeKalb. At the other end of the street, there were Jews. At our\nend of the street, there weren't. In Mary Lin ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"School, there were no Jewish kids\nthat I know of. Looking back at the pictures, I have never been able to identify\nany Jewish children. At the other end of the street, there were the Steinhammers\nand the Revsons. Further back towards town, you got into the real Druid Hills,\nthis is really Lake Claire. You got back into what was Druid Hills or the east\nmost end of Druid Hills, and you picked up other ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"families. The Levys and the\nAlexanders, all of whom were part of a carpool to The Temple Sunday school. You\nasked me about my grammar school, which was Mary Lin. It was a short distance.\nWe could walk home from grammar school. Maybe it was a mile and a half away. You\nasked me about junior high school, which was Bass in Little Five Points.\n\nPLASKER: Did you ride the bus to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go?\n\nTAYLOR: You sometimes rode the bus, sometimes rode the bicycle because it was\nwithin bicycle distance. I could take a bicycle from there over to my father's\ndrug store, which was at Ponce de Leon and Highland [Avenue] at that time. The\nPlaza Drugstore. You need to fill that in because it works into that period of time.\n\nPLASKER: As we know it, Plaza Drug . . .\n\nTAYLOR: Let me pull it together. When you do it that way, you pull me away from\nit. 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I was never there at night, but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that was where they took people at\nnight, usually when they got hurt and they couldn't get them to Grady\n[Hospital]. The Masonic Temple was actually above. Then, and I have no idea\nwhen, probably when I was eight or ten years old, my father moved his drug store\ninto what I guess was the first small shopping strip. It was at Highland and\nPonce de Leon. 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My father and I would go into the\ndrugstore and I would be the soda jerk.\n\nPLASKER: This is the old days of the soda fountain and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pharmacy.\n\nTAYLOR: Later on, when I got a little older, I would work on the other side of\nthe store, usually when other people didn't want to work. I worked Christmas\nEve. I worked those times when there were large volumes of business and nobody\nelse would work it. As a little kid, I was efficient. I could spell two or three\npeople. That's what I meant when I said I worked at the drug store. I wasn't a\nfull-time employee.\n\nPLASKER: Your father paid you even ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"though you were his son? You were paid for\nyour time, I assume?\n\nTAYLOR: I have no idea. I don't think so. I may have been, but I don't think so.\n\nPLASKER: But it was expected, so you worked there.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. I didn't work near full-time at all. I just worked when I was\nneeded. By the time I was a teenager, in the summertime I went to summer camps\nmost summers because my mother was in New York.\n\nPLASKER: Where was the summer camp? 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I was the life guard one\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"summer at the Standard Club because Jimmy Kahn wanted to go somewhere else and\nthey couldn't find anybody else. I think I may have turned 16 that summer, so it\nmade me almost legal.\n\nPLASKER: That was when the club was already at . . .\n\nTAYLOR: It was on Ponce de Leon.\n\nPLASKER: Yes, the old club.\n\nTAYLOR: As I was saying, when we lived on Claire Drive, we lived there until I\nwas almost 14. 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I know in those days there was definitely\nsegregation here in the south.\n\nTAYLOR: That was not an issue.\n\nPLASKER: Was there really no black population in the area to speak of?\n\nTAYLOR: That was not an ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"issue.\n\nPLASKER: Not in this area?\n\nTAYLOR: We can talk about the racial issue mainly because I have been interested\nin it and involved in, but it was not relevant at that point. There were no\nblack kids anywhere in any schools and no black kids in the drug store.\n\nPLASKER: No help in the drugstore that were black?\n\nTAYLOR: I think the kid that caught curb was black. 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It was paternal but it was comfortable.\n\nPLASKER: The expression \"caught curb\" as you explained it before was the\nequivalent of being a carhop?\n\nTAYLOR: It was car hopping.\n\nPLASKER: Somebody would pull up to order from the soda fountain outside.\n\nTAYLOR: That's correct.\n\nPLASKER: That's a new expression I've never ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"heard.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. But that led me on to something that I thought might be\ninteresting. As I say, we lived in a duplex. We lived on the top floor and\nrented out the bottom floor. My mother had a car, which was very unusual. The\npeople that lived downstairs worked for General Motors, so he would drive a car\nfor a short period of time. My father would ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"buy it for my mother at a discounted\nprice. Mother would drive it for a period of time until another came along and\nthen pass it on to my father.\n\nPLASKER: It was roughly demos being passed on?\n\nTAYLOR: Passed on.\n\nPLASKER: Your father had a car and your mother had a car.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes.\n\nPLASKER: That's very unusual.\n\nTAYLOR: At one time, my father had an old Packard. My reason for remembering\nthat was Dad did two things around the house to make our house . . . to bring\nkids to our house because basically the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kids in the neighborhood tended to play\naway from our house. A lot of reasons. Mother didn't want any noise around the\nhouse because she slept in the afternoons and what have you. These were two\nthings to try to bring kids to the house. One was Dad got some old elevator\ncables. Elevator cables have to be changed periodically. He got some surplus\nelevator cable and strung it between two trees. The man that lived in the\nbasement was one of the things that we went past too fast. I want to go back to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it. [He] built a car that would ride down the cable. Then they built a badminton\ncourt. We built a badminton court simply by flattening out a piece of the yard\nand they did that with a mule and a drag pan. I was just old enough so that the\nguy would let me try to use the drag pan. It was just a pan that goes behind the\nmule that tips up. This is how they graded at that time. You were talking about\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"help, and that's something I needed to elaborate on. As I say, I was really\nreared by the maid, by Zoe Osceola Rogers. She was a remarkable woman in all\nsorts of ways. Very, very devout. Very, very ethical and just really everything\nyou would want in terms of a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"person for a very young child.\n\nPLASKER: Tell me what you said her name was again.\n\nTAYLOR: Her name was Osceola Rogers.\n\nPLASKER: Osceola Rogers.\n\nTAYLOR: They called her Zoe. She was there most of the time. She was on a couple\nof nights a week. She was on every other weekend. She would get there very early\nin the morning. I would let her in because no one else would be up. She would\nstay until late in the evening before she went home. The streetcar system in\nAtlanta was very, very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"good at that time. Later on, before I was able to drive\nwhen I was 15 years old, I could still visit friends. Dated a girl all the way\nin West End. I would take the Walker West View streetcar line that ran a block\nand a half from my house to a block and a half from her house all the way on the\nother side of town.\n\nPLASKER: These were the old streetcars with the above power lines that were attached.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. Later, we had trackless trolleys, but at that time there was a\nrail. 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He made\nlamps by cutting up cigar ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"boxes and then nailing them into . . . he was just one\nof those . . .\n\nPLASKER: Very creative. He basically lived there for room and board. It was\nexchange for . . .\n\nTAYLOR: It was hardly room and board. It was part of the basement.\n\nPLASKER: It was a dry place to sleep. It's better than being homeless.\n\nTAYLOR: It was a dry place to sleep. I don't remember exactly why. One of my\nchores was to go down from the top floor at night . . . I was frightened when I\nwas very young. [I] would go down the back stairs and into the basement where ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2010.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I\nwould load the coal into what they called an iron fireman which was the\ndispenser that then went through a screw and ran coal into the furnace. Of\ncourse, we used bituminous coal back then.\n\nPLASKER: Bituminous?\n\nTAYLOR: Bituminous coal.\n\nPLASKER: What does that mean?\n\nTAYLOR: Well, the good coal is anthracite coal. It's hard coal. It's a coal you\nare familiar with. But we had in the south something called bituminous coal. It\nwas a very soft coal. It threw off an awful lot of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"soot. The whole city always covered.\n\nPLASKER: Obviously it was cheaper and that's why it was used.\n\nTAYLOR: Much cheaper and much more available. The whole city always had a film\nof black on it from the burning of bituminous coal. I don't know when they quit\nburning bituminous coal in the south.\n\nPLASKER: But that's what heated your house?\n\nTAYLOR: That's what heated most houses. They either had that or they had an oil\ntank in the front. 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Kiddush or Kaddish?\n\nPLASKER: Kiddush.\n\nTAYLOR: To say the Kiddush, which he would chant. I guess my grandmother\nprobably lit the candles. It probably did happen every Friday night. It just\ndidn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"happen at our house.\n\nPLASKER: Which grandparents were those? Your mother's?\n\nTAYLOR: My mother's parents were dead before I was born.\n\nPLASKER: These were your father's parents where you had Shabbat?\n\nTAYLOR: My father's parents. My father's father died when I was six or seven\nyears old. So, it was really just my grandmother, her oldest daughter, and an\nunmarried daughter who lived with her. One daughter, Lena, and her husband also\nlived with her. There was a family in that house. That family is probably\nsomething we ought to make a separate session on because ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"none of them will be\ninterviewed, so the only way you will get them is from me.\n\nPLASKER: Your father had two sisters. You had two aunts and an uncle there?\n\nTAYLOR: Unless you want to do [interview] Frances Makover, in which case you\ndon't have to bother.\n\nPLASKER: I'll check on that.\n\nTAYLOR: If you do Frances, don't bother doing it with me because she'll have it\nmuch more accurately. Turn that off for a second.\n\nPLASKER: We're back from a short break.\n\nTAYLOR: Let me do just a tiny little bit about the cousins and what have you. I\ndon't want to get into it if there is any chance you can get to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Frances. She\nreally knew what was going on with the family much more than I did.\n\nPLASKER: You just mentioned to me that Frances Makover was Frances Katz.\n\nTAYLOR: Frances Katz.\n\nPLASKER: She is a daughter of your father's sister?\n\nTAYLOR: She is the daughter of my father's oldest sister. The oldest sister,\nLizzie, lived in the house with my grandparents as did Frances and her sister\nwhen they were growing up, and my father's sister Sarah and Lena, together with\nLena's husband, Ed Rubin, and their son. There was one cousin [after Frances and\nIda left] living in the house. There were a number of other cousins in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"town. The\ncousin that lived in the house [Marvin] was close to my age. He was about six\nmonths older. The other cousins were older than that [except for Randman/ Cohen/Cohen.]\n\nPLASKER: None of you went to the same school because you were in different areas?\n\nTAYLOR: No, we didn't go to the same schools, and they didn't all come over on\nFriday night, but there were usually several of them on Friday night. I didn't\nsee that much of my cousins. It wasn't that often that we got together.\n\nPLASKER: Did you gather for Thanksgiving, Hanukkah, or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"other holidays?\n\nTAYLOR: I think we probably gathered for Passover. There was a Passover at my\ngrandmother's house. She made the wine for the AA, so we all drank. They all let\nthe kids drink too much wine and made that a Passover. I think that was probably\nthe only thing that we gathered for.\n\nPLASKER: You said that your grandfather died when you were fairly young. Who led\nthe seder after he was gone?\n\nTAYLOR: You're going to lead me off this.\n\nPLASKER: I was just curious as long as you are talking about Passover.\n\nTAYLOR: The Passover seder was run ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by . . . I never remember it being run by my\ngrandfather because he was too old by the time I can remember it. The men in the\nfamily ran it. Although Dad was the one who did the Kiddush every Friday night,\nhe was not particularly well versed. Dad was not religious. He never went to\nsynagogue. But he was able, I am sure, to participate because he was sort of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a .\n. . there's someone in every generation that holds the family together. My\nfather was it in his generation and probably in my generation. He probably was\nat the head of the table, but he probably had those that were more familiar,\nsome of the uncles. I can't remember any particular uncle that was particularly\na leader. I do know they did the thing out of the Maxwell House Coffee\n[Haggadah]. 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We made ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"clubhouses in the woods and the ground. Why we\ndidn't kill ourselves, I don't know. One of the kids in the neighborhood whose\nfather was a used car dealer, his name was Pat Gillentine. His father bought him\nponies. One of the ponies was about the size of a horse. We used to take the\nponies over to Ponce de Leon and race the streetcars when they went downhill.\nThere was a place that was between Ponce de Leon and South Ponce de Leon from\nClifton Road going ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"east. The streetcar line ran in a park area. The streetcar\nconductor would see us and he would open it wide open and it would just clang\ndown. We would race him down. I talked earlier about Camp Highland Lake when I\nwas younger, which was a GMA camp. Mother went to New York in 1939. My father\nand I went up to join her in New York, so we went to the New York World's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fair.\nI think I mentioned that Mother was involved with the Hadassah in the Jewish\ncommunity but also in the music club, and that gave her entree into the wider\ncommunity. One thing that might be interesting. You asked me about the Jewish\nmatter. There was a public swimming pool on Ponce de Leon closer to Decatur. The\nname [Venetian] keeps almost coming to me but not ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"quite. It was restricted. I\nwent with my mother down there one time and saw the kids sitting around the\nswimming pool. She asked what was necessary to join it. They said, \"No, anyone\ncan join. You have to be a member, but anyone can join. It's $2,\" or whatever it\nwas, \"as long as you are a good Christian person.\" I remember my mother saying,\n\"I'm sorry, we are not qualified\" and leaving. We did, however, use a swimming\npool ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"over at the Candler Place on Briarcliff, which was sort of a zoo and a much\nlarger swimming pool. It was apparently not restricted because we used it. I\nmust have been very young because I remember being taken into the ladies' locker\nroom. I mentioned The Temple Sunday school. I went to The Temple Sunday school,\nbut I went to the AA Hebrew School. That's almost to that age. Let me stop, go\nback, and answer your ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"questions about the family.\n\nPLASKER: Before you do that, you mentioned going up to the New York World's\nFair. When you and your father traveled north, did you go by train?\n\nTAYLOR: Of course.\n\nPLASKER: And to camp and things, you went by car? Your parents would drive you\nto camp, but when you went far away, your mother always went by train up to New York?\n\nTAYLOR: Everything was by train, sure, which was a very nice way of going. You\ngot on a train, you went to bed, you went to sleep. You woke up the next morning\nin New York or vice versa coming home. There were two trains. You will have this\non somebody else's.\n\nPLASKER: Go ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ahead.\n\nTAYLOR: I am trying to remember the name of them. There was a morning train and\nan evening train. They each had a name. They were considered fast trains.\n\nPLASKER: Like Silver Streak?\n\nTAYLOR: No, it's not coming. Maybe it will come at another time.\n\nPLASKER: You were talking about the family.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, the family. My father had a number of siblings, one of whom I never\nmet, Jessie, who died before I was born. Then there was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lizzie. Trying to put\nthem in order. Lizzie, I.H. [Isaac], Mose, my father [Herbert], Sarah, Lena,\nCelia, and the youngest. They had varying number of children. Most of them had a\nsingle child. Lizzie and I.H. each had two children.\n\nPLASKER: That's a son, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I.H.?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, and one in Dunwoody. I'm sorry. I skipped him. Had two children.\nEveryone else had one. Let me leave that for Frances if she can do it. If she\ndoesn't do it, then I will try to go back and do it. We had gotten to about age\n13 and Hebrew school. I probably was still in The Temple Sunday ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"school when I\nstarted Hebrew school. The first Hebrew school was on what's now Monroe [Drive].\n\nPLASKER: You were going to the AA Hebrew school and you said it was on Monroe\n[and] Boulevard.\n\nTAYLOR: When it was on what was then Boulevard, now Monroe, just north of Ponce\nde Leon in a little white church. Then it moved to an old building south of\nPonce de Leon. Then it moved to another house ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2730.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on North Avenue. There, of course,\nwas antisemitism. We sometimes got chased on our way to the streetcar after\nHebrew school.\n\nPLASKER: Who were your teachers?\n\nTAYLOR: I only remember one. His name was Schwartz [sp], and he was terrible. He\nwas afraid of his shadow, afraid of the kids, and afraid of being there.\n\nPLASKER: Couldn't control anybody?\n\nTAYLOR: Couldn't control anybody. All we did was read. Hebrew school was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2760.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really\nabsurd. I won the seder the first year I was there.\n\nPLASKER: Some of this was before your bar mitzvah to train you?\n\nTAYLOR: This was only for bar mitzvah. Believe me. Bar mitzvah and I stopped it.\n\nPLASKER: You were out of there.\n\nTAYLOR: I don't think I've been in a synagogue since.\n\nPLASKER: Do you remember any contact with Rabbi Epstein?\n\nTAYLOR: Rabbi Epstein was a friend of the family, so I had plenty of contact\nwith Rabbi Epstein all my life.\n\nPLASKER: Did you spend either Shabbat or holiday wit him ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2790.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or just visiting back\nand forth?\n\nTAYLOR: I guess the most contact I had with him was just when they were at the\nhouse. I sort of had my own relationship with him when I was older to the extent\nthat . . . I want to put this story in here because I think it's worthwhile.\nIt's totally out of context.\n\nPLASKER: That's okay.\n\nTAYLOR: Rabbi Epstein was a brilliant man and a wonderful ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"speaker. Some people\nthought he was a little arrogant, so I want this story in here to give you an\nidea. He had retired. There was a wedding for a member of his congregation. The\nparents were dead. This was at an aunt's house. It was way, way out at the end\nof nowhere. I was going to be the godfather of the child that was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2850.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"being . . . I\nwas later a godfather of the child. But this was the wedding, I believe . . .\nno, this may have been . . .\n\nPLASKER: The bris or a baby shower?\n\nTAYLOR: It may have been the bris. I remember driving out there. It was an awful\ndrive. It was raining. I got there, and I parked my car. Rabbi Epstein pulled up\nin his car by himself. He was an old man at that time or an older man at that\ntime. The boy is 16 now, so that will give you an idea of time. He pulled up on\nhis ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"car. He starts taking the chuppah out of the back of the car. Of course, I\nran over and took the chuppah out of the car and went in. He called Reva to tell\nher he had gotten there all right. He said, \"Don't worry, Mark Taylor is here.\nHe'll help me out.\" He did the ceremony. It must have been a marriage because\nthere was a chuppah.\n\nPLASKER: You are saying the child of this marriage is now 16. That's probably a\ngood 20 years ago.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. Probably 18 years ago. So, the marriage was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"over. Again, we take\nthe chuppah, unfold it and put it in the back of the car. He gets in his car and\nhe drives home. I know they didn't pay him for it. It just was an old member of\nhis congregation and here he was, an old man out on a rainy night.\n\nPLASKER: To honor them and help them out.\n\nTAYLOR: To help them out. Yes.\n\nPLASKER: He was very warm. As you said, he was a brilliant man. He had his\ndefinite views. Your parents and he, do you remember discussions, like you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said,\nabout Zionism or any type of thing like that?\n\nTAYLOR: No. Their relationship was a social relationship, not a political\nrelationship at all. I think Dad helped him. Dad would take care of things for\nhim. They were just great close friends. We did Hebrew school. We did summer\ncamp. We did the World's Fair. We did the swimming pools.\n\nPLASKER: Who were your good friends at this ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time in your junior high and high\nschool days? Who were the boys and girls that you hung out with? Did they come\nmore from the Jewish community or the Christian kids?\n\nTAYLOR: No. They came mostly from the non-Jewish community. Whoever was in my\nclass or whoever was in my neighborhood.\n\nPLASKER: Did you make some friends from this Hebrew school group at AA?\n\nTAYLOR: No, and I don't even know, aside from my wife's cousin, who was in it\nthe first year.\n\nPLASKER: Who was that?\n\nTAYLOR: Sally ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Travis. She was just there the first year, whom I knew. I don't\nremember a single soul from Hebrew school. I don't think I knew anybody in that class.\n\nPLASKER: You mention these swimming pools. Yet, you said earlier that you\nbelonged to either the Mayfair or the Progressive and then the Standard Club?\nDid you do any swimming or any social activities there?\n\nTAYLOR: The people in the Standard Club were people that we knew, so sure. We\nknew that community.\n\nPLASKER: You spent some social time there?\n\nTAYLOR: But I did not know the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"community . . . I don't think kids spent much\nsocial time at the Standard Club. They did at the Mayfair around the pools.\nWhere was I going? I don't think there is anybody in that Hebrew school class\nthat I could even remember.\n\nPLASKER: That's interesting. We talked about work a little bit. You worked in\nyour father's store.\n\nTAYLOR: A little bit.\n\nPLASKER: You said one summer you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"worked as a life guard when you were a little\nbit older.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes.\n\nPLASKER: Before you went away to college, any other jobs?\n\nTAYLOR: I was 16 when I went away to college. Actually, there was. My father had\npicked up a business with cigarette machines during the war. I would drive\naround, as soon as I could drive, and help stock those machines. You could drive\nat 15 in Atlanta.\n\nPLASKER: Oh my goodness. You would take your father's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"car and drive and fill the machines?\n\nTAYLOR: No. Actually, he bought a vehicle to do it with. It was a car with a\ngreat big trunk. When I was 15, I did that one summer. Actually, that was the\nsame summer. I must have had to stop that because that was the same summer I was\nat the Standard Club. I turned 16 in 1944. That's right, I would have been ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"15\nwhen I was at the Standard Club.\n\nPLASKER: 1943 and 16 in 1944.\n\nTAYLOR: I went to college. I got out of high school in January 1945.\n\nPLASKER: Was there a big graduation for that?\n\nTAYLOR: No. It was a mid-year graduation. I went right to college.\n\nPLASKER: At Cornell [University], you said?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. For the summer of 1945. What I did between January and the summer\nof 1945, I'm not sure.\n\nPLASKER: Probably, Dad had you working in the store!\n\nTAYLOR: I don't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remember. Let's see, 1945 I would have been 16 before May and\n17, so I went to school probably as I was turning from 16 to 17.\n\nPLASKER: Was that unusual for someone? Not just getting out early, but was it\nunusual for a young man from the south to be going to Cornell?\n\nTAYLOR: People went out of our high school to all of the eastern schools.\n\nPLASKER: Boys' High was very college prep in those days?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. It was the college ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"prep.\n\nPLASKER: What was the experience of going? Discuss a little bit about going to\nCornell coming from the South.\n\nTAYLOR: I know why Judith [Grossman Taylor] mentioned something about Vanderbilt\n[University]. I am not sure of this because it was too many years ago and it was\nonly a general impression that I had. Vanderbilt came to Atlanta. At this time,\nwe were in the middle of a war. There were very few males around of college age.\nRemember, I was a year or so younger than most of the high school ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"graduates. I\nhad started a half year or year early and I cut out another year. Vanderbilt\ncame through giving a test for scholarships to males only. They gave it in Boys\nHigh School. In Boys High School, the valedictorian was not Jewish. The next\nthree or four people in standing were Jewish. There were a lot of Jewish kids in\nBoys High School. In terms of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"standing in the school, I would say out of the\ntop ten in the class, five or six of them were Jewish. I think, I'm not sure, I\nthink my academic average was second or third in the class. I'm really not sure.\nI know that we were all grouped there at the top. Not a single Jewish boy got a scholarship.\n\nPLASKER: They weren't looking for Jewish students. They were looking for other students.\n\nTAYLOR: That's correct.\n\nPLASKER: You went to Cornell?\n\nTAYLOR: I went to Cornell.\n\nPLASKER: You spent four years ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there?\n\nTAYLOR: About three, three and a half instead of five. Again, they were rushing\nyou through. You did a five-year course in three and a half years.\n\nPLASKER: Discuss a little bit about life there, if you did fraternity,\nacademics, and impressions versus the South.\n\nTAYLOR: First of all, it was nice to be there with a southern accent. Everybody\nwanted to hear you talk. I did not go fraternity, which was a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mistake, which\nmeant that the associations that I made were outside the fraternity group. They\nturned out to be with an older group so that my friends were the returning\nveterans and the school teachers and librarians in the city. In a sense, I\nmissed the college experience entirely. I'd get up every morning, put on a suit\nand tie, and go to school instead of going to work. Otherwise, I may as well\nhave been living and working in Ithaca, New ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"York.\n\nPLASKER: You sound like you were a pretty serious student.\n\nTAYLOR: Which was sort of a pity. Can you stop that a moment?\n\nPLASKER: Mark is continuing filling in some of his earlier years.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. I mentioned the Camp Highland Lake which was a GMA camp. I learned\na lot of Christian songs at that camp. It was a good camp. I mentioned Mother\nbecause of her music and involvement and because of the time she ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3360.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"spent in New\nYork, I suppose, when musical personages would come through town, they would\ncome to our house. So, I met a lot of those people.\n\nPLASKER: Who were some of the people you remember?\n\nTAYLOR: Don't do that to me. I don't remember a single name. I remember a\nteacher whose name was Mayer [sp]. I remember Ted. I'm sorry. I can't do that. I\nmentioned the church across from my father's drugstore. Louie Newton was a very\ninteresting guy. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He and my father were buddies. Louie Newton was one of the . . .\n\nPLASKER: He was the pastor?\n\nTAYLOR: He was a pastor. He was an institution unto himself. But he was one of\nthe fine movers for the Protestants and other Americans United for the\nseparation of church and state, now called AU. Americans United. He was one of\nthe moving forces in that. He used to tell Dad, \"I'll run mine. You run yours.\nYou leave me alone. I'll leave you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"alone.\" He did take care of that church\ncrowd. The other thing that that leads back to was one of the other things that\nwe did at the drug store that had an impression on me as a kid is we would come\nin once a year and feed the National Guard doughnuts and coffee before they went\nout to do the Empty Stocking Fund in the morning. 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When I was\nyoung, the thing that I looked forward to more than anything else every week\nafter I got back from the Sunday school carpool, which was not pleasant, because\nalthough the kids didn't know we were Russian Jews, the parents apparently did.\nSo, the carpool to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Temple was not a pleasant experience.\n\nPLASKER: Parents would make comments?\n\nTAYLOR: The parents, after they got the other kids dropped off, they would stop\nsomewhere and let me wait. They were not . . .\n\nPLASKER: Not respectful of you?\n\nTAYLOR: They were very respectful of my mother but not particularly respectful\nof me. When I would get home, I would wait for my Uncle Louie. My Uncle Louie\nwould take me out to his farm. His farm was a piece of hard ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"scrabble land out in\nwhat is probably now a subdivision, out where the Yellow River runs into . . . I\ndon't remember the other river. But there we could shoot guns and we could . . .\n\nPLASKER: Yellow River. That's up toward Lake Lanier.\n\nTAYLOR: No.\n\nPLASKER: Not that far out?\n\nTAYLOR: I don't think that far out.\n\nPLASKER: That sounds like out towards Stone Mountain.\n\nTAYLOR: It's in that general area. But we would go out and we would walk in the\nwoods. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We would stop on the way out and buy some cheese and some soft drinks. It\nwas just . . .\n\nPLASKER: Boy's afternoon out.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. My father worked all day, everyday. It was my recreation and\nassociation with an older man. My Uncle Louie was a real uncle to me. He did\nheavy drinking. He taught me to drive when I was 12 years old. He had a little\nEnglish Austin. He let me drive it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out to the farm and back.\n\nPLASKER: Was this your father's brother?\n\nTAYLOR: My mother's brother. I mentioned the Walker Westview Ponce de Leon and\nDruid Hills car line that went from practically Decatur all the way over to West\nEnd. A single car line.\n\nPLASKER: Sounds like your life line.\n\nTAYLOR: It really was in a sense. You asked me to mention the Victory Garden. I\ntried one and I didn't do very well. 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You had to take a streetcar downtown, and you had to wait and\ntake a suburban bus which could not stop anywhere in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3630.0,3660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"town except that one place\ndowntown. It would come right back by where you came from and it would take you\nout to Darlington Road. Interestingly enough, there was a trackless trolley\ngoing all the way out past Buckhead, which is further out Piedmont than\nDarlington Road. That area in Garden Hills, you could only get to on the\nsuburban bus line.\n\nPLASKER: This is around 1943? This is war years and little ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"expansion.\n\nTAYLOR: This is war years 1941, 1942, I would guess. By then I was in high\nschool. That was a good neighborhood. There were no Jewish kids there either. It\nwas a good play neighborhood. You could get up a good football game. From there\nwe moved back to Orme Circle, which was right down the street from where I went\nto school. Of course, I was practically out of school by ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then.\n\nPLASKER: Orme?\n\nTAYLOR: Orme Circle. It runs off Boulevard, which is now Monroe, a block or two\nnorth of Piedmont Park. It is walking distance to Boys' High School. We talked\nabout the Standard Club, the Mayfair Club, and the Progressive Club.\n\nPLASKER: Do you want to talk a little bit about Cornell?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, we can. I don't have much that I can ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tell you about Cornell.\n\nPLASKER: What did you study there?\n\nTAYLOR: I did a BCE, which is the professional degree in civil engineering.\n\nPLASKER: You knew you wanted civil engineering all along?\n\nTAYLOR: No.\n\nPLASKER: What guided you there?\n\nTAYLOR: The choices I was offered. My parents had not been to college and I\nguess I didn't have enough sense to talk to other people. 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So, I opted for the civil\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"engineering. It's the broadest of the engineering. You can do most anything from\nit, so that's what I took.\n\nPLASKER: Talking about college experiences, this made me think. One thing you\ndidn't mention was if you were dating any girls or any dating kind of activities\nin high school and then what that was like in college.\n\nTAYLOR: By the way, to finish out the college thing, I'm not sure why I did the\nmaster's in engineering when I came ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3840.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back. Years later I regretted it and went\nback to Georgia State [University] and made up for it by taking philosophy\ncourses. Basically, I didn't have an education, when you get right down to it. A\nfive-year engineering course is not an education.\n\nPLASKER: You are saying it was not broad enough? You didn't get enough liberal arts?\n\nTAYLOR: There just wasn't an education to it. It was just professional training.\nThe girls I dated. My girlfriend in high school was not ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish. Mary Lemon was\nher name. We were very close. It was a close relationship. I dated Jewish girls\nfor Jewish affairs, of course.\n\nPLASKER: Were you part of any Jewish clubs? Or did you go to the Jewish\n[Educational] Alliance like some people did? Where did your social life hang around?\n\nTAYLOR: I was a member of AZA [Aleph Zadek Aleph]. It was Morris Lichtenstein.\nChapter 518, is it? 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I don't like to say adult things, but we did things that were not\nparticularly connected with the school.\n\nPLASKER: You weren't necessarily doing dances or football games and things like ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3960.0,3990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that?\n\nTAYLOR: Probably went to the football game. Went to the big school dances, but\nthat was all. I was not involved with any particular group, except this one I\nwas living with.\n\nPLASKER: You came back from Cornell [and] came directly back to Atlanta?\n\nTAYLOR: Came directly back to Atlanta and went to work the next day.\n\nPLASKER: Doing what?\n\nTAYLOR: My father, while I was gone, had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=3990.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sponsored and developed some\napartments. I reviewed the contract to be built, and there was one group that\nthat had not been built, so I came back and built it. He assumed I went to\ncollege, I knew how. I didn't, but I didn't tell him.\n\nPLASKER: Where were the apartments that you were building?\n\nTAYLOR: Those were the Rock Springs Apartments. We just kept going from there. I\nwas back. We could do it ourselves. I did the next one by ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4020.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"myself.\n\nPLASKER: So y'all were building them? You were not only the builder, but you\nwere the owners and you rented them?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. It didn't turn out to be the smart thing to do, but it was fun. It\nwas the way I think Dad preferred to operate. I'm not sure I didn't. Instead of\nbeing the kind of developer that some of our friends are, where they were able\nto do a lot of work, we got everything but the squeak out of a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4050.0,4080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pig. I would find\nthe piece of land, option it, find the tenants, we designed the building, leased\nthe building, managed the building, which kept us in smaller projects than we\nwould have been if we had used architects to do, which we did later on. We used\narchitects to design them instead of designing them ourselves. We did make more\nuse of agents as time went on.\n\nPLASKER: You were the agents, you were the developers, you were the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4080.0,4110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"architects,\nyou were the contractor, you were the lease. You were the whole package.\n\nTAYLOR: Manager of the whole package, with a lot of exceptions. I mean, a lot of\nthem were. Adam Cates did a lot of the leasing for a number of them. Did most of\nthe financing. We used architects. In the later buildings, we were able to pay\nfor architects. In the earlier ones, we designed the whole house.\n\nPLASKER: Did you stay with apartments or did you move into something else?\n\nTAYLOR: No, we did ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4110.0,4140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everything.\n\nPLASKER: Where did you move from Rock Springs? That was kind of close in, almost\nclose to where you lived, I guess, coming in a little bit.\n\nTAYLOR: We did a number of apartments on the other side of town in East Point\nand in East Atlanta. We did some small commercial buildings down around Fifth\nand West Peachtree. We did an industrial development or two. We built, I guess\nthe first office building downtown after the war ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4140.0,4170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"except the Fulton National\nBank. We did a few other office buildings. We also did retail stores and\nshopping centers, small and medium-sized shopping centers.\n\nPLASKER: What areas were the shopping centers in?\n\nTAYLOR: Various. Mostly on the south side of town. Campbellton Road and Stewart\nAvenue. [I forgot several on this side of town].\n\nPLASKER: Stewart Lakewood?\n\nTAYLOR: Stewart ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4170.0,4200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lakewood. The Mall West End, which I sold and my son re-bought.\n\nPLASKER: Could have saved him some trouble.\n\nTAYLOR: No. I sold it for more than he paid for it.\n\nPLASKER: You came back from school, I would assume, roughly 1948, 1949.\n\nTAYLOR: I finished school in 1948. Went back for graduation in January 1949.\nCame back home and went to work.\n\nPLASKER: When did this cover the apartments into the shopping centers? What time\nperiod would you say you are ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4200.0,4230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"covering? Ten years or more?\n\nTAYLOR: Forty years.\n\nPLASKER: Forty.\n\nTAYLOR: The apartments were all through by 1952.\n\nPLASKER: Then you moved into office buildings?\n\nTAYLOR: Then I divorced. Left town for a little while. Came back. Left town and\nwent to work in Wilmington, Delaware, for a year. Came back. I think I did one\ncommercial building before then.\n\nPLASKER: You just mentioned you divorced. You didn't mention getting married.\n\nTAYLOR: We had to get married first.\n\nPLASKER: Tell us about that. You haven't mentioned ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4230.0,4260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that.\n\nTAYLOR: Okay. Turn it off.\n\nInterview pauses, then resumes\u003e\n\nPLASKER: We are going to touch briefly on . . . Mark mentioned divorce. I said\nthere had to have been a marriage, and he's going to tell us about it,\n\nTAYLOR: Perceptive of you. I was married, I guess, in 1951 to Sheila Barstein,\nwho was from North Carolina, Tennessee. I'm not sure. She had a lot of family\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4260.0,4290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"here. Klein. They were South African on her mother's side, some of whom I\nremained close to until they died. Harry, her oldest uncle, and I were very\nclose. Her father was Mr. . . .\n\nPLASKER: Harry Klein. The jeweler?\n\nTAYLOR: Harry Klein. The jeweler. Yes.\n\nPLASKER: This was his sister?\n\nTAYLOR: This was his sister's daughter. Yes.\n\nPLASKER: So, she had come to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4290.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta and was just visiting or whatever, and you\nmet her?\n\nTAYLOR: We met. We were married for a very short time with one daughter, Janet,\nwho lives in Boston now. We just came back from her 50th birthday party.\n\nPLASKER: Marvelous.\n\nTAYLOR: She looked marvelous. She looked great. She's more attractive than her\ndaddy. Anyhow, we were married for a very short time, and I left town and went\nto ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4320.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Wilmington, Delaware, where I had a friend, and where there was a very active\nyoung community of young scientists and other professionals. I had a wonderful\ntime. Stayed there a year, year and a half. Then I came back to Atlanta and went\nback to work.\n\nPLASKER: The girl side of me has to ask. You were married by Rabbi Epstein at\nthe AA?\n\nTAYLOR: I was married by Rabbi Epstein in my parents' house.\n\nPLASKER: Everything was at that point very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4350.0,4380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"traditional? I mean, it's just the\nway everything was done in the 1950s?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes.\n\nPLASKER: Very short marriage and one daughter. You went away for a little while\nand came back. You said you stepped right back into the same business and\ncontinued building office buildings and then branched to shopping centers.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. I did that too.\n\nPLASKER: Lenox Square was built around 1959, 1960. [Built and managed commercial\nand industrial simultaneously]. The centers you were building were after that?\n\nTAYLOR: About the same time. I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4380.0,4410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remember the guy that built Lenox Square [Ed\nNoble]. I can't remember names any more. The guy that built the building [his\ndeveloper, Vic Shroeder] called me at one time to try to borrow my\nsuperintendent because he was having some problems. Yes, it was about the same time.\n\nPLASKER: This was when Atlanta was truly starting to expand, spread more to the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4410.0,4440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"suburbs.\n\nTAYLOR: It has grown, hasn't it?\n\nPLASKER: When you were first married, where did you live? When you went away to\nWilmington and came back, where did you live in Atlanta?\n\nTAYLOR: When I was first married, I took an apartment at Rock Springs Apartment.\n\nPLASKER: Good rent.\n\nTAYLOR: It was cheap!\n\nPLASKER: Did you live at home when you first came back from school?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes and no. The first project I built after Rocks Springs, I got myself\nan apartment in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4440.0,4470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it, but I kept a room at home too. Actually, the first two\nprojects I built, I built myself an apartment . . . it was a basement apartment.\nThe extra space.\n\nPLASKER: A way to keep an eye on things?\n\nTAYLOR: Just a pad. 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I guess I wasn't working there anymore but it was\nstill ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4500.0,4530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there. I'm trying to remember, it was a long time before I was remarried\nthat I had anything other than those two pads. Yes, that's right. I rented an\napartment at the Paces Ferry Towers, which is now an elderly [home] in Buckhead.\nA one-room apartment. I had that for a good long while. I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4530.0,4560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"guess I must have\ngotten that shortly after I came. I may have moved right back into it when I got\nback. I'm not sure.\n\nPLASKER: You came back from Wilmington about 1952, 1953?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, 1952, 1953. From then to 1957, I must have been at the Paces Ferry\nTowers in a one-room apartment.\n\nPLASKER: You said you and your dad were doing the building together?\n\nTAYLOR: I was the builder. He was the rainmaker.\n\nPLASKER: Was he still involved with the pharmacy or he left there?\n\nTAYLOR: No, he closed the pharmacy, I think before I got back to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4560.0,4590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"town.\n\nPLASKER: And decided to move into real estate and was developing?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. He had done conversion work during the war. He had built a few\nhouses and converted some old buildings into multifamily during the war. He had\nstarted these Rock Springs Apartments. He was well into it when I got back.\n\nPLASKER: Where do you want to go from here?\n\nTAYLOR: He was the rainmaker. 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There was just so much ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4620.0,4650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"open space to start developing?\n\nTAYLOR: That's essentially right. There's not an easy answer to that, for sure.\n\nPLASKER: Especially apartments, I guess, was a natural after the war because so\nmany people were coming back. The baby boomers.\n\nTAYLOR: That was all over. We did that in a very short period of time,\n1949-1951. It was all done and over. Still had them to manage, but we had built\nlots of apartments and that's all we were doing then.\n\nPLASKER: You mentioned you were very involved with the Urban ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4650.0,4680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"League and for a\nlong period of time. How did that come about? How did your connection start and\ntell us something about that?\n\nTAYLOR: I don't know how I got started with the Urban League. I really don't. I\nremember it was in the . . . I thought it was before I got married [Judith\nassures me that I was on the Urban League Board when I married her in 1957], but\nthe earliest thing we can find down there with my name on it was 1959. It was\nsometime in the mid to late 1950s. I was simply on the board from then on. It\nwas sort of the little thing you did. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4680.0,4710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Don't know exactly when because in those\ndays we didn't put our names on the letterhead.\n\nPLASKER: What was the premise behind the Urban League? What was its mission?\n\nTAYLOR: It was bi-racial. It was supposed to be representative of both\ncommunities, the black and the white community. 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Most of the construction workers were white except for certain trades.\n\nPLASKER: There was somewhat of a control by certain people?\n\nTAYLOR: Whenever the job had any kind of a union, if it was a union job, or had\na ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4770.0,4800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"union. For larger jobs, the plumbers and your electricians pretty much had to\nbe union, which meant that you had a touch and go situation with your other\ntrades. We didn't have the kind of open shop jobs that they do now. That's a\nwhole dissertation in itself.\n\nPLASKER: Did you feel that you were in competition with or just going along\nparallel with other ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4800.0,4830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"developers? Were there a lot of other real estate men in the\nJewish community? Who were your contemporaries at the time? Who did you work with?\n\nTAYLOR: At the beginning, there really wasn't anybody else but Ben Massell.\n\nPLASKER: Ben Sr.?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. As the others came along, we stayed very modest and they moved fast\nbecause we were not risk takers. I was talking to Charlie Ackerman the other\nnight. He said, \"You know, can you imagine what you could have done, Mark, if\nyou had been a risk taker?\" I said, \"Yes.\" He said, \"We should have been\npartners\" because he really was a risk ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4830.0,4860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"taker. There wasn't a community of\ndevelopers that we knew. We knew socially most of these people. Dad and Ben were\ngood friends. Morris Arnovitz and I and dad were good friends.\n\nPLASKER: Did Max Kuniansky come along later?\n\nTAYLOR: I've known Max, of course, most of my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4860.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"life. I did an industrial\nsubdivision with Max. I did the subdivision work. He did most of the buildings\nout there. A pleasure to work with. Always a nice guy. I have always liked Max.\nWe did some industrial but very little. He was really in a different area.\nHalpern was, in those days, sort of off by ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=4890.0,4920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"himself. He came into the mainstream\nmuch later.\n\nPLASKER: Judith had mentioned a man, Reverend Joseph Boone?\n\nTAYLOR: Boone. In what connection?\n\nPLASKER: She mentioned it right after the Urban League and said to ask about\nyour experience. You'll have to tell me.\n\nTAYLOR: I don't know why she brought Boone up. 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As a matter of fact, I had\na Christmas party there one night when my manger and I were pouring champagne\nfor everybody, and the people would look at me, and I would stop pouring the\nchampagne when they sang, \"We Shall Overcome,\" and then we'd start again.\nConsidered it a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5010.0,5040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"prayer. But it was fairly well controlled. We were helped\nthrough it all by other friends that I had in the community.\n\nPLASKER: Andrew Young.\n\nTAYLOR: Andrew Young and through some other friends that I had in the community,\nwe arranged a meeting between . . . we weren't directly involved because the\ncomplaint that they had was with the owner of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5040.0,5070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"department store. A meeting\nwas arranged between Boone and me and the owner of the department store, who was\nPhil Sunshine. We made a very strong effort to make all\nof our local tenants minority. We developed it. It meant that an awful lot of\npeople . . . there was an awful lot of turnover, but we were finally able to\nestablish a lot of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5070.0,5100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"minority business owners. Now, of course, they're all\nnational people. But then we had a group of locally owned minority tenants.\n\nPLASKER: All local tenants.\n\nTAYLOR: We had a lot of mom and pop stores, a couple of those kind of stores.\nTAYLOR: The problem was to get the black entrepreneur that came along to\nkeep those $100 bills in his pocket because I did not want to know about them\nand to persuade Phil Sunshine not to try to tell Reverend Boone how he sent his\nblack ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5100.0,5130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"warehouse manager to his own doctor because I really didn't think that\nwould sell. So, we simply went to see Boone. I sat there and let him beat on me\nfor a while and everything was settled.\n\nPLASKER: You managed to do it peacefully. That's the main thing. Is this part of\nsome of the Urban League involvement or was he totally a splinter of his own?\n\nTAYLOR: No. He was an individual entrepreneur during the Civil Rights Movement.\nHe was never really taken into the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5130.0,5160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fraternity of the civil rights activists. I\nremember a Jewish female on the Urban League board, and I'd rather not use the\nname, when she was saying something about Boone at an Urban League board meeting\nto Lyndon Wade, who was the director, what do you call it when you simplify what\nis actually being ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5160.0,5190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said? You want to thumb nail it. What she was really saying\n(she was saying it much nicer), \"He's black. You're black. Why can't you do\nsomething about Reverend Boone?\"\n\nPLASKER: Sounds like nobody wanted to claim him.\n\nTAYLOR: Right. That kind of a remark was utterly naïve and so insulting. I got\nup and I explained to her that Reverend Boone was one of the most helpful things\nwe had because as long as he was out there making trouble in the streets, Lyndon\nWade was a lot more effective in the types of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5190.0,5220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reasonable things we were trying\nto do. She didn't like that at all. She didn't speak to me for a year.\n\nPLASKER: I'm with Mark Taylor on October 22 for the Jewish Oral History Project\nof Atlanta, cosponsored by American Jewish Committee, Atlanta Jewish Federation,\nand National Council of Jewish Women. This is our second interview. We finished\nabout the time on the first tape where Mark had finished college and came back\nto Atlanta. It's about 1949. We also talked about a first marriage and the\nbeginning of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5220.0,5250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"business.\n\nTAYLOR: Right.\n\nPLASKER: We are going to pick up where we left off.\n\nTAYLOR: I got back in 1949. I got back the end of 1948. Started in 1949 building\nthat last Rock Springs group we talked about. Started night law school, which I\nstopped after a few years to go back and do a master's at Tech.\n\nPLASKER: Where did you do your night law class?\n\nTAYLOR: I forget now. Whatever was the night law school in Atlanta.\n\nPLASKER: Something here in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5250.0,5280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta.\n\nTAYLOR: Atlanta Law School. Yes. Did my master's at Tech. Got married and\ncontinued working. We did a number of other apartments all over town, mostly in\nEast Point. Then we finished all of the apartments. We finished a group ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5280.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"called\nFort Homes, Valley Home. Did the Wherry Housing for Fort McPherson, which I\nguess is what kept me out of the Korean War. I was a reserve officer, but I was\nbuilding the Wherry Housing, and the South Atlantic Division engineer didn't\nwant to lose me. I found out later that my 201 File was pulled and locked in his\ndesk until I finished the job. I was a reserve officer for 15 years but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5310.0,5340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"never\ngot called up. That's interesting. I probably ought to do some of that reserve\nbefore we finish because I was in a lot of different units and did a lot of\ninteresting things, I thought, for a reserve officer.\n\nPLASKER: Do you want to cover that now?\n\nTAYLOR: No, I will make a note of it and pick it back up. I did the Wherry\nHousing for Fort McPherson. Did some other development out there in East Point.\nDid a group called Points Apartments. Did a group called Battle Courts\nApartments in East Atlanta. Did a small commercial building at ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"4th and West\nPeachtree. Did two small commercial buildings at 4th and West Peachtree. Then\ngot a divorce and left town for about a year and a half. Went to Wilmington,\nDelaware, which was a wonderful place for a young technical person to be in the\nearly 1950s. The DuPont Experimental Station was there. All the physicists,\nchemists, engineers were working there. It was a very stimulating place to be. I\nwas there for about a year and a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5370.0,5400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"half. I came back to Atlanta and started some\nsmall commercial buildings. I'll run through the work and then come back and\npick up the life, I suppose. I built a lot of small commercial buildings, a\ncouple on Piedmont Road, a couple at 4th and West Peachtree, I guess I had done\nbefore I went to Wilmington. Built one of the early shopping centers in Atlanta\ncalled Campbellton ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5400.0,5430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Plaza, then one called Stewart Lakewood. Built one of the\nfirst downtown office buildings in the early 1960s, the Title Building.\n\nPLASKER: You said your father was involved with doing this. Who else did you\nwork with?\n\nTAYLOR: That was it. It was just my father and me. We worked with real estate\npeople. We did a lot of work with Adam Cates. Then I bought the Peachtree\nPalisades Building. It had already been ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5430.0,5460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"built. We bought it and sort of turned\nit around and put it back into business. We built a First National Bank Building\nin Marietta. Then very late, I went back and built a few more apartments. We had\nsome land left over, and I built some apartments back out near the Rock Springs\nApartments. Over the years, we did industrial buildings. We did industrial\nsubdivisions. Built a lot of free-standing retail stores. Did a few specialty\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5460.0,5490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"buildings. The last shopping center I did was The Mall West End, which I did in\nthe early 1970s. It was an urban renewal job, which I sold after a number of\nyears and my son rebought recently. I finished Tech about 1952, I believe.\nShortly after that, I started teaching just a single course over there in the\nmanagement school for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5490.0,5520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Architects, which was fun. I got involved with a sort of\ndebating club over there, professors from Tech and Emory, and stayed in that for\nmany, many years. That was an interesting thing. Stop it for just a second and\nlet's see what we have.\n\nTAYLOR: Anything particular about the few years I taught that course at Tech.\nAbout the only thing that would be interesting to the Jewish ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5520.0,5550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Community is Ben\nMassell would come over every year and talk to my class for me. I would bring\npeople from various segments. It was a building investment course, and I'd bring\npeople from various segments of the community. Uncle Ben would come over.\nWhenever he came over, people from all over the school were interested, so we\ncould get in the main auditorium. He spun a wonderful yarn, as you know, then he\nwould take ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5550.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"questions. One of my students, who must have been bucking for an A,\nasked him some very technical question based on something I had been trying to\nteach. Ben Massell looked at him sort of funny. He said, \"Son, somebody brings\nme a deal, I whip around once in my chair and I tell them what I'm going do.\" He\nkilled a whole year's instruction for me.\n\nPLASKER: It's that shoot from the hip type of style.\n\nTAYLOR: Believe me, he did everything I taught them and much ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5580.0,5610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more. He just did\nit very quickly.\n\nPLASKER: I imagine at that point you're talking the early 1950s, Ben Massell was\na well-known name, not only to the Jewish community but in the Atlanta general community.\n\nTAYLOR: Absolutely. Actually, this was middle-late 1950s by then. Because the\nlast year I was over there, Judith came to the classes. I know I was married. I\nmarried in 1957. Judith and I did marry in 1957. What came before that? Not a\nlot came before that. Judith asked me to talk about the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5610.0,5640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"theatre groups in\nAtlanta, but I don't think there were a lot of Jewish people involved except\nmaybe Jennings Hertz, who I am sure you will interview. There were a couple of\ntheatre groups. One was called Civic Theatre. One was called [Atlanta] Theatre\nGuild. Lila Kennedy was the inspiration behind the Theatre Guild. They combined\ninto something called Theatre Atlanta, which did very well for a while and then\noverstepped itself.\n\nPLASKER: Were you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5640.0,5670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"always interested in theatre? How did you get involved in\nbeing part of the inner circle of this and, I imagine, a main supporter or organizer?\n\nTAYLOR: By dating a woman who was involved in the inner circle of it. I wasn't\nthat much of an organizer of it.\n\nPLASKER: Before that point, there just wasn't much quality theatre in the\nAtlanta area? Not much art?\n\nTAYLOR: By the time I got back, there were always several good amateur theatres\nin Atlanta.\n\nPLASKER: We're going to stop for a minute because there are some sirens out there.\n\nTAYLOR: All right.\n\nPLASKER: At the time you came back to Atlanta, what was the theatre scene ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5670.0,5700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"here?\n\nTAYLOR: As I say, the amateur theatre. I had done some amateur theatre in Wilmington.\n\nPLASKER: Participating?\n\nTAYLOR: I participated in the local theater group in Wilmington. Then a friend\nof mine and I opened a sort of . . . could almost call it stock theatre. We got\nan old theatre building, and we promoted some shows. It's interesting, some of\nthe old-time radio actors from New York would come down and be willing to work\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5700.0,5730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for minimum equity just to get back on stage. Anyhow, when I came back to\nAtlanta, I had some interest and there were two groups. There was Civic Theatre\nand Theatre Guild. They combined to become Theatre Atlanta. That wasn't the only\ntheatre, but that was the civic theatre. Atlanta has always had a lot of things\ncoming through, as you know.\n\nPLASKER: [Did] you help promote and get this moving along and be part of the scene?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. Judith and I married in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5730.0,5760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1957.\n\nPLASKER: I know men don't have much interest in this, but let's talk about how\nyou meet to start with.\n\nTAYLOR: Okay. You're leading me off, but all right. We met when I . . .\n\nPLASKER: We touched on this. We've got to get her into the scene.\n\nTAYLOR: I was getting you into the scene, but that's all right. We met [when]\nshe was in a baby carriage and I was pushing it.\n\nPLASKER: Literally?\n\nTAYLOR: Literally. Her cousin and I grew up together. Her cousin, Sally Travis,\nand I were sort of reared together. Our parents were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5760.0,5790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very close. Judith is about\neight or nine years younger, so I had known the family. I've known her all her life.\n\nPLASKER: Obviously didn't take much notice of her in her little bitty day.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. I noticed her from the time she was about 13, but I was married at\nthe time. She was a very precocious child. Where was I going? Something to do\nwith that.\n\nPLASKER: How did you finally start making a romance out of it?\n\nTAYLOR: Just a moment. Turn that off.\n\nPLASKER: Sure.\n\nTAYLOR: We were married in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5790.0,5820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1957. I had a bachelor apartment at Paces Ferry\nTowers, a one room apartment. We moved into the one room apartment. I bought a\npiece of property and started building us a house on West Roxboro Road. When the\nhouse was about half built and Judith was pregnant with our first son, first\nchild . . . now I know what I forgot. Judith was visiting the house. She looked\naround and she said, \"Where are the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5820.0,5850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"children?\" This was a neighborhood of small\nempty nesters, small two bedroom one bath bungalows that had been built probably\nduring the Depression or shortly before or shortly after, mostly empty nesters.\nJudy said, \"Where are the children?\" The mandate was to create some children for\nour kids to play with. There was a piece of property across the street with a\nlittle shack on it that an elderly ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5850.0,5880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"black couple lived in. I knew people had\ntried to buy it and I checked on it. The reason no one had bought it was because\nthe title was poor. A number of people had died intestate. About 32 people owned\nfractional pieces. So, I worked out a way, and it's too much for the tape, of\ncleaning up the title. Cleaned up the title and built a street. You could do\nthat in those days. I said, \"I'll sell lots at my cost to anyone who, number\none, has or intends to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5880.0,5910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have young children, and number two, will use an\narchitect to design their house.\" This created Judith Way with seven families\nthat really became an extended family. All of the children grew up in each\nother's homes. You treated the other children on the block the same way you\ntreated your own. And they have remained close. They are business partners. They\nwork with each other in business. They are godparents of each other's children.\nThey are still very close after all of these years. It was a wonderful experience.\n\nPLASKER: You had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5910.0,5940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the real estate savvy to know how to make a piece of property work.\n\nTAYLOR: We got it done and it turned out to be . . . we had a neighborhood pool.\nIt just turned out to be one of the wonderful . . . where necessity was the\nmother of great invention. It worked out exceedingly well. What slipped me\nbefore is we jumped my first marriage which, although it didn't last but a few\nmonths, produced my oldest ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=5940.0,5970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"daughter.\n\nPLASKER: What's her name?\n\nTAYLOR: Her name is Janet.\n\nPLASKER: Did she grow up in Atlanta?\n\nTAYLOR: Janet grew up in . . . actually, she moved around the country a good bit\nwith her mother and her mother's husband. She lived on the west coast. She lived\nin a number of places. When she was 16, she sort of ran away and came back to\nus. She was with me from then until she went to college. She went to college in\nNew Orleans. 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She's 50\nyears old with a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6000.0,6030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"five-year-old adopted son. Just had her 50th birthday. We just\ncame back from there. Now we're with Judith, and our three children were born\nthere on West Roxboro Road.\n\nPLASKER: Who is your first son?\n\nTAYLOR: My first son is Charles. Chuck.\n\nPLASKER: He was born, you said, late 1950s?\n\nTAYLOR: 1959.\n\nPLASKER: Then who was next?\n\nTAYLOR: Kenneth was next, born in 1962. Then Elaine, born in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6030.0,6060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1964. Elaine was so\npleased. I think she was so pleased with the Judith Way thing that she went up\nthe street and bought another piece of property and she developed a street.\n\nPLASKER: What's the name of her street?\n\nTAYLOR: Her street is something Garden [Edison Gardens]. Sorry.\n\nPLASKER: We'll come up with it later.\n\nTAYLOR: It will come back to me in a moment.\n\nPLASKER: But is it the same idea?\n\nTAYLOR: It's named after Judith's mother's maiden ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6060.0,6090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"name. I'll think of it in a\nmoment. But, it's the same thing.\n\nPLASKER: Just like a cul-de-sac street with several families.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, it's a cul-de-sac with several families. I don't think they're as\nclose as the Judith Way group was. The Judith Way group was almost all . . . or\nwas it all, Jewish? Yes. It was all Jewish. It turned out that way. That was not\na criteria, but that's the way it worked out. I guess after the first two or\nthree lots were bought by Jews, why . . .\n\nPLASKER: One friend tells another about the street. That was close to the\nStandard ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6090.0,6120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Club.\n\nTAYLOR: It was.\n\nPLASKER: It was close to several synagogues.\n\nTAYLOR: Although at the time that they built, not a single person on the block\nbelonged to the Standard Club. Later, three or four of us joined. Four? Yes.\nFour of us joined. I'm doing a lot of jumping around.\n\nPLASKER: You were members of The Temple also when you were married, weren't you?\n\nTAYLOR: No. We were initially members. Traditionally, as I think we talked about\nlast ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6120.0,6150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time, my family belonged to the AA and The Temple. When we were married, we\nwere involved with a group forming a synagogue called Beth El. We contributed\nsome land, and they built a building. It was Reconstructionist.\n\nPLASKER: Where was that?\n\nTAYLOR: It was off University [Drive] not too far from the present Shearith\nIsrael. It had its problems, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6150.0,6180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"financial as well as others. It was supposed to be\nReconstructionist. Like a lot of synagogues where the people that are most\ninterested are the people that are the most devout. It began to get more and\nmore . . .\n\nPLASKER: Traditional?\n\nTAYLOR: Traditional might be a good euphemism for it. It finally just died.\n\nPLASKER: I don't remember hearing of a Beth El, so I know it must not have been\naround very long.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, it finally just died. It was important at the time. At one point,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6180.0,6210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Judith and I were fairly active in it. I think Judith was president of the\nSisterhood for a while. We had a commitment from The Temple that if we wanted to\nbecome Reform, that they would give us any support we wanted. The\nReconstructionists really didn't have any representation here at the time. I\nguess we were careless and didn't pay much attention by the time it decided it\nwas going to become Orthodox, something other than the Reconstructionist. More\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6210.0,6240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Orthodox. We either weren't there or didn't pay attention. That was pretty much\nthe end of it.\n\nPLASKER: Did you have a spiritual leader or a rabbi? You had a president of the congregation?\n\nTAYLOR: Actually, we had a member of the community who had a good voice, learned\nthe liturgy without any other rabbinical training. He was our cantor. I can't\nremember what we did for a rabbi.\n\nPLASKER: Who was that who led, the cantor?\n\nTAYLOR: I was hoping the name would come to me while I was mentioning him, but\nit doesn't [Sid Gotler].\n\nPLASKER: Maybe it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6240.0,6270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"will. We'll work on it through the hours.\n\nTAYLOR: It will come to me. I mean, he's a friend of mine for years. That's terrible.\n\nPLASKER: You said that you and Judith, your families knew each other. Obviously,\nyour parents were both very happy when you met, I mean, decided to fall in love\nand get married.\n\nTAYLOR: Who knows?\n\nPLASKER: Where was the wedding?\n\nTAYLOR: The wedding was in New York.\n\nPLASKER: Destination wedding long before your time.\n\nTAYLOR: What's that?\n\nPLASKER: Now they call them destination weddings when you get married in a city\nother than where you live.\n\nTAYLOR: No. Judith lived in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6270.0,6300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Brooklyn.\n\nPLASKER: I thought because you said you knew each other when you were young that\nshe lived here.\n\nTAYLOR: No. She lived in Brooklyn.\n\nPLASKER: You were married there in New York.\n\nTAYLOR: We were married there in Brooklyn.\n\nPLASKER: Was it in a synagogue or was it in a social hall?\n\nTAYLOR: It was in one of those synagogues that . . .\n\nPLASKER: Has the whole nine yards.\n\nTAYLOR: That provides the whole thing. Yes.\n\nPLASKER: A rabbi and very traditional?\n\nTAYLOR: It was a rabbi. Not traditional by my standards. Stop it for a minute. I\nwant to go to the men's room.\n\nPLASKER: Judith and . . .\n\nTAYLOR: We were talking about the rabbi at the congregation there. Apparently,\nhe was a very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6300.0,6330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well-known rabbi, so my father-in-law was very pleased. You had\nasked me before how our families felt. I think probably Judith's family was not\ncrazy . . . Judith's mother was not crazy about her marrying someone who already\nhad a child. She was convinced the child would come back at some point, which\nfortunately she did. Judith's father, I think, was delighted. Judith's\ngrandmother was particularly delighted. They didn't want us to hurry. We were\nengaged in the fall and wanted to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6330.0,6360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"marry before the end of the year. I had made a\nlot of money that year. When I showed my father-in-law how much money I would\nsave on taxes, he moved the wedding right up. The rabbi, they were very pleased\nto get him. He was very well known. He was one of those liberal New York bigots.\nHe assumed that I was from the south and everybody from the south hated blacks\nand were bigoted, so he spent the whole time lecturing Judith on how she was\ngoing to go to this terrible ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6360.0,6390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"place where people were all bigoted and whipped\nslaves and picked cotton and how she had to maintain her . . . he was horrible.\n\nPLASKER: If she wasn't liberal before that, it certainly turned her liberal.\n\nTAYLOR: He was just about as bigoted an old man as I think I ever encountered.\n\nPLASKER: How sad.\n\nTAYLOR: But we went through it anyhow, and it was a lovely wedding. My cousin's\nhusband in New York was my best man. Friends came in from New York. Friends came\nin from ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6390.0,6420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta. It was a lovely wedding.\n\nPLASKER: Then you definitely honeymooned and came right back to Atlanta?\n\nTAYLOR: We honeymooned and came back to Atlanta.\n\nPLASKER: Where did you honeymoon?\n\nTAYLOR: I wanted to say something else about that. We went to somewhere down in\nthe Caribbean. I can't remember where now [Jamaica]. Hang on just a second. I'm\ngoing to untangle. Went to the Caribbean. Came back through New Orleans and came\nback to Atlanta. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6420.0,6450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The cantor's name that I forgot came back to me and now I've\nlost it again [Sid Gotler]. We were talking about organizations in Atlanta or\nhad started to. We talked about theatre. My interests were in several things. I\nwas interested in the Urban League, which I had mentioned to you before, from\nabout the time I got married, maybe a little bit sooner, maybe a little bit\nlater, and stayed involved with it. I was finally chairman of it and then had to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6450.0,6480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hire the successor to the executive director. After that, it wasn't too good an\nidea for me to stay around. I get calls from them occasionally, but I am no\nlonger on the board. I was on the board for 40-odd years, which I guess was\nenough. I was involved with the Piedmont Arts Festival. That had Lenny [Lenore]\nGold and Peggy Janus and other members of the Jewish community very involved\nwith it. [Isaac] Ike Saporta, I think, probably was involved with it earlier and\nlonger than most anyone else.\n\nPLASKER: Ike. I'm sorry?\n\nTAYLOR: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6480.0,6510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ike Saporta. Ike was an interesting guy. He was a Greek Jew who spoke\nfive or six languages, including German, without accent. He managed to move\naround in the underground during the war and survive. He came over to Georgia\nTech and taught at Tech. He was a friend of my folks first and then a friend of\nmine. His wife, Nora, taught mother French. Ike was involved with the Piedmont\nArts Festival. It may have been ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6510.0,6540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ike that asked me to come. The thing fell apart.\nThe board got in a fight many, many years ago, and the thing came apart. Dick\nForbes was Atlanta city planner. I'm not sure. We went over. I put in the money.\n[Carolyn Feldman Fisher was one of the founders, I believe]. Dick put in the\neffort, and we brought it back that year.\n\nPLASKER: Do you know when that arts festival actually started?\n\nTAYLOR: It had started long before this. Carolyn Feldman Fisher was one of the\nfounders, I believe.\n\nPLASKER: The early 1950s or something like that?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, something of that sort.\n\nPLASKER: This is around the 1960s. You're saying it was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6540.0,6570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"starting to fall apart\nand you all helped bring it back together?\n\nTAYLOR: We put it back together. As I say, I put up a little money and Dick ran\nit that year just single handedly. Then CETA [Changing Education Through the\nArts] came along. We went down and we got a CETA position and hired a director.\nThen it moved on very well from that for many years. At one point, it became a\nlarger and larger organization. I was on the honorary board by then. I think I\nhad already been ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6570.0,6600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"chairman for a couple of years, and I became concerned about\nwhat they were doing. It looked like they were over organizing it and building\nup something that they couldn't sustain. I said so, so I left that.\n\nPLASKER: You said your piece and left.\n\nTAYLOR: I said that if you do what you are doing, I don't know whether it's four\nor five years, but sooner or later, it will collapse. It turned out to be\nprophetic, although not for exactly the reasons I had told them it would. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6600.0,6630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was\ninvolved with them for many, many years and enjoyed it. There was a group of us\nthat were involved in contemporary art in Atlanta, and that was sort of the\nnexus of it. It was out of the Piedmont Arts Festival first and then later\nthrough the 20th Century Group in the High Museum. The group got a little\nlarger, a little more mature in terms of what we were doing.\n\nPLASKER: What's the 20th Century Group?\n\nTAYLOR: That is where I was going. The group of people around ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6630.0,6660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta who were\ninterested in contemporary art got a little bit larger, a little more\nknowledgeable, a little bit more sophisticated in what they were doing and\nformed a group which was initially more a social group than anything else. It\nwas a support group for the High Museum of Art and was the 20th Century Art\nSociety. Genevieve Arnold and I chaired it the first year, the first couple of\nyears, and sort of got it started. They had a new curator of contemporary art at\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6660.0,6690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"museum. Like the arts festival, where Lenny was the driving force in the\n20th Century art society.\n\nPLASKER: Lenore Gold?\n\nTAYLOR: Lenore. She was also the driving force in the 20th Century for a number\nof years. It turned out to be a very social group. We all got together for other\nthings. We did things together. At the same time, we were able to provide a\nsupport group for contemporary art at the museum at a time when the museum was\nnot particularly hospitable to either Jews or contemporary ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6690.0,6720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"art. We finally got\nLenny on the board. At the time, she was chairman. We were finally able to get\nthem to agree that the chairman of our support group would be an ex-officio\nmember of the board. There had been Jews involved. I mean, the Uhrys had been\ninvolved. The Regensteins had been involved. But it was still a pretty . . .\n\nPLASKER: Closed group.\n\nTAYLOR: A closed ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6720.0,6750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"group. It began to open shortly after we became involved. It\nbegan to open and then opened entirely when the director changed.\n\nPLASKER: You mentioned Jennings Hertz before. That was more on the theater end\nof arts in Atlanta.\n\nTAYLOR: Jennings was theatre. Jennings, as you know, was in New York and was on\nBroadway and had to make a decision. Left it and came back and went into the\nfamily business. Jennings was a very talented actor. This had to do only with\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6750.0,6780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"visual arts. This had to do with the High Museum. There was a nexus group in\nAtlanta, which my son was involved with. We sort of left that province to him.\nWe gave our efforts to the High Museum. We accomplished a lot of things. Lenny\npulled together a national group which I think was probably very useful in terms\nof providing loans and what have you. Judith and I managed to, by a lot of luck\nand a lot of help from Ned ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6780.0,6810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rifkin, to finish the work that fills the atrium. We\naccomplished a lot. It's not that [Gudmund] Vigtel wasn't easy to work with. I\nhad worked with Vigtel early on with some tax things where he wanted certain\nartworks. There was an industrial park that had a lot of contemporary sculpture\nthat went broke. He wanted two of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6810.0,6840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pieces. I bought one in Dad's name, which\ngave him enough money to buy the other one. Then I held it for a couple of years\nand then donated it and Dad took the tax deduction. This kind of thing.\n\nPLASKER: Who was that?\n\nTAYLOR: Vigtel, the director, now director emeritus. You may not even have\nnoticed it, but across from the entry to the Woodruff Arts Center, there's a\ntall red thing. That was the piece that I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6840.0,6870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bought. That was our involvement with\nthe High Museum and the Piedmont Arts Festival. Judith told you to be sure I\nmentioned the board of zoning adjustment. Sam Massell, when he was mayor, put me\non the board of zoning adjustment. I seem to have become a permanent fixture. I\nstayed there for about 15 or 16 years. Chaired it from time to time.\n\nPLASKER: That truly makes a difference in how a city . . . the zoning is really\nwhat controls . . .\n\nTAYLOR: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6870.0,6900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. This is zoning adjustment. This is not the zoning board.\n\nPLASKER: What does that mean?\n\nTAYLOR: Variances, primarily, and other contentions between the building\ndepartment and other people.\n\nPLASKER: A variance could make or break something in a neighborhood, that's for sure.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, we made some mistakes.\n\nPLASKER: Hopefully you made some good moves too.\n\nTAYLOR: Absolutely.\n\nPLASKER: Any particular projects that came through that you really regret\nsomething going one way or the other?\n\nTAYLOR: Everything that came through for 15 years that had to be varied at all,\nin other words, every tall office ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6900.0,6930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"building. Most of it . . .\n\nPLASKER: What was the time period you were involved?\n\nTAYLOR: From the beginning of Sam Massell's administration for about 16 years.\nIf you are going to ask me when Sam came into office.\n\nPLASKER: That's what I am trying to remember. The 1970s?\n\nTAYLOR: I'd have to work backward.\n\nPLASKER: I wonder if it's 1970s, 1980s?\n\nTAYLOR: Judith and I did it the other night. We worked backward to that time,\nbut I don't remember what it was now.\n\nPLASKER: That was definitely when Atlanta was truly burgeoning out to the\nsuburbs and the inside was rebuilding?\n\nTAYLOR: No. It's been happening for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6930.0,6960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"60 years.\n\nPLASKER: Yes.\n\nTAYLOR: You asked that we mention the public art project. This was a little\npiece of land over the Presidential Parkway, just a scrap left over from a\nproperty that we'd had. The rest of it had been condemned, and it left a little\ntiny scrap of land. I thought it might be nice to put a piece of public art on\nthe Presidential Parkway. I talked to my son, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6960.0,6990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Chuck, who was on the Fulton\nCounty Arts Commission, because if you put something in there, it doesn't make\nany sense unless there is somebody to maintain it. Put it in a museum, and the\nmuseum will maintain it. You put it outdoors, somebody's got to take care of it.\nHe said, \"That's wonderful. We're doing public-private art projects.\" He said,\n\"I'll make this work.\" We ran, not a competition, but just asked artists to\nsubmit art ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=6990.0,7020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"work. We set a budget and looked at a lot of art works, some of which\nwere fair, some of which were terrible. I had seen a small piece by Sol LeWitt.\nSol LeWitt is a 20th century master. He's an important artist. Most of these\nwere local artists. I think one or two had some reputation, to buy one of these\nsmaller pieces. I asked Sol LeWitt about this. We had already worked with him in\nthe High Museum. He told ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7020.0,7050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me about some concrete block stuff he was doing, some\nreally large-scale work. So we worked trying to get the DOT [Department of\ntransportation] to let us move it partly onto their right of way. He designed\nsomething, and we were on our way. He was very generous, so we were able to\nafford it by increasing our budget a bit. He was very, very generous to the\npoint ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7050.0,7080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that in the final analysis, he never got paid anything. I don't think he\nexpected to, but he needed to do it in a way that didn't appear to be a\ngiveaway. He was extremely generous. Depending on what it cost to build, he was\ngoing to get the rest of the budget. Of course, it ran up two and a half times\nover budget.\n\nPLASKER: What else is new?\n\nTAYLOR: What happened was he designed something that was magnificent. We had got\nall of the clearances. Then someone decided that it could be climbed [on] and it\nwas dangerous. And they were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7080.0,7110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right. He being the marvelous guy he is, designed\nthem another one that could not be climbed, but it was too big to go on the\nsite. I had to go out and buy some more property. I went out and bought some\nmore property. Then the neighborhood began to object. Not the neighborhood.\nThere was a political situation there. White homosexuals were moving into the\nneighborhood. The black power structure in the neighborhood, who were [Mayor\nWilliam] Campbell's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7110.0,7140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people in the neighborhood, were concerned that they needed\nan issue. First of all, they thought when they heard that this statue was worth\nso many dollars and so forth, they figured they ought to have the dollars for\nthe neighborhood and not for the statue. They went to work on that. Of course,\nthat wasn't available. Then they just opposed the darn thing. It was a small\ngroup of very politically active, and it was near election time. No good deed\ngoes unpunished. It took us a long time to get it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7140.0,7170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"done. It's now done.\nEverybody's happy with it. Most of those people aren't there. The basic\nneighborhood group was very supportive, both black and white. So, it's there.\nIt's one of the wonderful pieces of art in town, but it took a lot of doing.\nChuck was terrific.\n\nPLASKER: Perseverance.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. It got done. [We] figured out a way to do it. The first one took me\na long time just to figure out a way to design it and build it. The second one\nwas fairly easy. It was just a structural matter. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7170.0,7200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Got a friend to design it and\ngot a contractor to build it. That was it. Where do we go now? Do we talk about\nchildren or do we talk about other little business things?\n\nPLASKER: You had mentioned there were some other parcels of land that you might\nhave donated.\n\nTAYLOR: The parks.\n\nPLASKER: Some of them may or may not have been successful?\n\nTAYLOR: Actually, they were mine. There were three of them, three different\nparcels at three different ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7200.0,7230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"times, four if you want to count combining them that\nwe donated as parks. One was immensely successful. It was the least valuable\npiece of property, probably could not have been used for anything else. It was\nsort of a valley next to a freeway out in East Point, about 15 acres. Maybe\nsomeday it could have been apartment project, but it was not a lovely piece of\nland. They did a wonderful job. They went to the federal government. They got\nmatching funds. They built a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7230.0,7260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"park in there. They rebuilt a scout hut that was\nhad been there. And it's just a delightful little park. One was in DeKalb County\nin the Emory area at the end of a street called North Emory.\n\nPLASKER: Called what?\n\nTAYLOR: North Emory. It was about a 6.5-acre piece of ground.\n\nPLASKER: Where was that? You said same street.\n\nTAYLOR: It's at the end of a place called North Emory. At the, I guess, the\nwestern most end of North ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7260.0,7290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Emory. Hard to access. Again, topographically rough.\nAbout 6.5 acres. My Uncle Louie had bought it and told me I should buy it from\nhim because it would become valuable someday, so I did.\n\nPLASKER: Who's Uncle Louie?\n\nTAYLOR: My mother's brother. PLASKER: Louie.\n\nTAYLOR: Kahn. The Louis Kahn Home.\n\nPLASKER: Yes.\n\nTAYLOR: That Louis Kahn. I thought it would be nice if that just remained open\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7290.0,7320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"space. I didn't think it ought to be developed. I had offered it to the DeKalb\nCounty Parks Department. They didn't want it. They didn't want any additional\nproperty. The Druid Hills Civic Association said they would take it and keep it\nas open space. The Botanical Gardens heard about it. They came and they said,\n\"Give it to us.\" They said, \"We may be able to get matching funds. If not, we'll\nat least make a nature walk out of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7320.0,7350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it or someday we'll make a nature walk out of\nit if we can.\" I gave it to them, and they sold it.\n\nPLASKER: What did they do with it?\n\nTAYLOR: They sold it.\n\nPLASKER: Somebody developed on it?\n\nTAYLOR: Eventually it resold for $2 or $3 million dollars, and somebody built an\napartment project on it.\n\nPLASKER: That's terrible. TAYLOR: Yes.\n\nPLASKER: They definitely reneged on their promise.\n\nTAYLOR: I got wind of it and I called their attorney. An appraiser called me\nbecause he wanted to appraise it. 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Then gave an additional piece.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7380.0,7410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's very nice for a real large piece of property now worth an extremely large\namount of money if it were not a park. We had wanted to come back with our\nlittle family foundation and make something similar to the park out on Houston\nMill Road, just a walk-through park. No parking, just where people could come\nand maybe eventually a bike path, but [it was] basically just a walking path.\n\nPLASKER: Picnic. That kind of thing.\n\nTAYLOR: No, not even picnic. Just nature where you walk ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7410.0,7440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"through. We allocated\nsome money and the neighbors thought it was wonderful. Then people that lived\nright around it figured uh oh, other people would be coming in. Right now they\nhad all of this free buffer to their property. Other people are going to come\nin. There are going to be people there, so they opposed it and we never did it.\n\nPLASKER: Where was that one?\n\nTAYLOR: That one, it's called the Herbert Taylor Park. Of course, it's still a\npark. It's on Johnson ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7440.0,7470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Road just at the north fork of Peachtree Creek. One of\nthese days, there are several Jewish people in the neighborhood that would very\nmuch like a park there who would probably help us. One of these days, we'll\nprobably go back. No good deed goes unpunished again. We'll probably make a park\nout of it. We've had different levels of success in our effort to give back a\nlittle something in terms of land in town.\n\nPLASKER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7470.0,7500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You wanted to talk a little bit about reserve? Would you like to talk\nabout that now?\n\nTAYLOR: I have it down. I'm not sure it's important enough to get in. If we\nleave anything out, that's probably what we'll want to leave out.\n\nPLASKER: Tell me about when you first . . . if you have something else.\nOtherwise, I was going to take you on another path.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes, I was just going to talk about other business interests that didn't\namount to anything but just to toss them in to show that Jewish guys that lived\nin the south did hunt, and they did ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7500.0,7530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fish, believe it or not, some of us at\nleast. I had a farm in Clarkesville, Georgia, with a friend of mine as partner.\nWe did cattle breeding for a while. Not very successful, but did very\nsophisticated cattle breeding, we did.\n\nPLASKER: Was this 1960s?\n\nTAYLOR: No, this is 1980s and 1970s and 1980s. We did sophisticated stuff. We\nwould do fetus ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7530.0,7560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"implants. We would do very, very sophisticated cattle breeding.\nIt finally got too expensive and we quit it. Early on, I played with radio\nstations. I had a radio station in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, and one in Buffalo,\nNew York. For a while, it looked like I was going to have a little chain of\nradio stations, but my college friend turned out to be an alcoholic and one of\nour managers turned out to be a crook.\n\nPLASKER: Does not help business.\n\nTAYLOR: It's not a good ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7560.0,7590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"idea to be that many miles away from a business. Five of\nus owned Executive Aviation for a while. I started flying in 1955 in a Taylorcraft.\n\nPLASKER: [Do you have] a pilot's license?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. In 1956 or 1957, I bought a Cessna 180 airplane which I courted my\nwife in. Her parents wouldn't let her fly with me, but I courted her in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7590.0,7620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it just\nthe same. I had a lot of different airplanes. I liked to fly. I had a T-28\nsurplus with a special license, a military aircraft. I had a UPS 7 bi­wing,\nrotary engine. Between the war, fabric aircraft, which was wonderful for\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7620.0,7650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"aerobatics, at which I was not very good. I was very good at everything else,\nbut I was not very good at aerobatics.\n\nPLASKER: That gets a lot of people, that upside down stuff.\n\nTAYLOR: It was a wonderful little plane. The T-28 was dangerous, and I quit it.\nI had a Brantly Helicopter which I crashed. That's another story. Then I got in\nwith this group with a small twin or medium-sized twin. We had two or three\nplanes, all the same basic ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7650.0,7680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"plane. They were Twin Bonanzas. Before we knew it, we\nowned Executive Aviation out at Peachtree-DeKalb Airport. The best pilot in the\ngroup was Ted Levy. Have you done Ted's [interview]?\n\nPLASKER: I don't know if I know him personally.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. He was the best pilot in the group. The five of us owned the\naircraft and then owned the air service for a number of years. 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I am\na third-degree black belt.\n\nPLASKER: It helps keep your children in line, I'm sure.\n\nTAYLOR: What's that?\n\nPLASKER: When they know that dad knows Judo.\n\nTAYLOR: Actually, we tried to teach the kids some ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7710.0,7740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Judo in the basement. Chuck\nwasn't too interested. Kenneth was too much of a natural. He was a little bit\ntoo good as a kid, and we sort of backed off it. He used some of the Judo holds\nwhen he first got into Lovett [School] on the wrestling team. He pinned a couple\nof people. Then he learned to wrestle. He was two-time state champion,\nwrestling, which I am sure helped him get into Williams [College], which I am\nsure helped him get into medical ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7740.0,7770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"school, which I am sure helped him get the\nreally good residency he got, which I am sure helped him get the very good\nfellowship he got and so forth and so forth. Maybe the Judo did something if you\nwant to talk about from the nail to the shoe to the horse to the cause.\n\nPLASKER: Do you think in business you accomplished your goals that you set out for?\n\nTAYLOR: In business? No, I think I was probably much . . . I think I mentioned\nthat to you. I was talking ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7770.0,7800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to . . . what's the matter with my mind? I was\ntalking to Charlie Ackerman the other night. He said, \"Can you imagine what you\ncould have done if you had been willing to take risks?\" I never took any risks.\nNo, I didn't do nearly what I might have been able to do. I had a lot of fun in\nthe sense that I, number one, had a lot of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7800.0,7830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"variety in the work that I did.\n\nTAYLOR: We forgot to unplug them today. I'll do that when this quits. Number\none, I got a lot of variety. I was able to do residential and commercial and\nindustrial. I did everything but a dam and a bridge. I was able to do all\naspects. I was able to do the design and the construction and the leasing and\nthe management and what have you. That's the good part. The bad part is I never\nset up a formula and did things of the scope I might have done if I had picked\nsomething and been willing to take a few risks. I was there really first and\ncould have done a much, much larger part of what was done than I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7830.0,7860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did.\n\nPLASKER: You sound like you felt good about urban renewal with The Mall at West\nEnd. You were building apartments at a time when people were just burgeoning,\nyoung couples were getting married after the war with the Rock Springs\nApartments and providing a lot of housing. There's got to be a certain amount of\nsatisfaction in a job well done.\n\nTAYLOR: It was a lot easier. Would you turn that off for just a second?\n\nPLASKER: Sure.\n\nPLASKER: We covered a lot of the work area and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7860.0,7890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whether you think you could have\nbeen a bigger mega mogul than you were. You sound like you were a very\nsuccessful man because you had the opportunity to do all these. You gave an\nawful lot to the community in a lot of different aspects and made some big\ninroads. I am going to go back to some family life. Just for the record, your\nwedding date was?\n\nTAYLOR: December 8, 1957.\n\nPLASKER: We talked about your three children. Do you remember anything like the\nfirst birthdays? What do you remember about your ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7890.0,7920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"style of upbringing? When you\ntalked about your own, you said how your mother was not around a lot. You were\nraised more by a housekeeper. Your father was at work all the time. How did that\nimpact the way you and your wife handled your children versus how you were each\nbrought up?\n\nTAYLOR: Judith grew up in a very close family. She is very family oriented. She\ngave her children a lot of time. I gave them the evenings and the weekends. My\nguess is if you asked their psychiatrist, if they had one, they would tell you\nthat I was not ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7920.0,7950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as successful a father as I might have been, but I did all the\nusual things. We had all the weekend activities, and we ate together every\nnight, of course. We did a lot of weekend activities, actually. Our house was\nsort of the center. We barbecued. In the back yard I had an archery range, a\npee-wee golf course, and a swimming pool.\n\nPLASKER: I'm with Mark Taylor. We just started talking about his ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7950.0,7980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"family and his\nchildren. He was describing their house as the center of the weekends with all\nthe amenities.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. We played a lot at the house when they were young. As we got older,\nI have a piece of property up on the river and we had a mobile home up there. We\nwould go up to the river. A long frontage on the Chattahoochee River above Lake\nLanier in White County, we would go up there.\n\nPLASKER: Did ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=7980.0,8010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"boating and fishing?\n\nTAYLOR: Whatever one does in the woods with kids. That's where they learned to drive.\n\nPLASKER: Is that yours? That deer up there on the wall?\n\nTAYLOR: But not from there.\n\nPLASKER: Good.\n\nTAYLOR: That came off Cumberland Island [Georgia]. I can tell you about that if\nwe get to it.\n\nPLASKER: There was a lot of family time spent.\n\nTAYLOR: That's a whole other story and probably not very Jewish.\n\nPLASKER: There was a lot of time spent with the children, like you said,\nweekends and at the lake.\n\nTAYLOR: There's one story relating to that animal that you may want to hear ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8010.0,8040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if\nwe finish everything else. I bought a property up on the lake on Lanier, just a\nlittle small cabin up on Lanier which I bought in the early 1970s. That became\nthe center because then we had a boat and we had water skiing and what have you.\nYes, we spent the weekend with the kids in a lot of activities.\n\nPLASKER: Did you travel with your children?\n\nTAYLOR: We traveled with our children a good bit. We took them to Spain. We took\nthem to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8040.0,8070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Africa on Safari.\n\nPLASKER: As young people or as they got older?\n\nTAYLOR: Fairly young. I think when we were in Africa . . . Africa was 1973, so\nthe kids were still pretty young. Spain was before that. Spain, Janet was 16 and\nshe was born in 1952, so that would have been before. That would have been 1968.\nIt may have been 1969. We traveled with them a fair amount until they went to\ncollege. We ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8070.0,8100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"took two large trips, one to Europe and one to Africa, rather\nextensive trip to Africa with our own safari and so forth.\n\nPLASKER: Where did they go to school, the children?\n\nTAYLOR: They started in the public schools. I was a strong advocate of public\nschools. Then, of course, it became impossible, so we moved them to Lovett. They\nall went to Lovett. They didn't particularly love it, but they all went to Lovett.\n\nPLASKER: I heard a lot of that. TAYLOR: Yes.\n\nPLASKER: Did they go to Hebrew school after school or just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8100.0,8130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sunday school on the\nweekends? Do you remember?\n\nTAYLOR: They certainly did go to Hebrew school. Where did they get it? Who\nprepared them for their bar mitzvah? They were all bar mitzvahed?\n\nPLASKER: At what synagogue?\n\nTAYLOR: [Temple] Sinai. They clearly had to go to Sinai for coaching. They must\nhave done that on Saturdays. [Per Judith, this is incorrect. They did go to\nHebrew and Sunday schools].\n\nPLASKER: When the Beth El group didn't pan out . . .\n\nTAYLOR: Or Sundays. They must have done that on Sundays.\n\nPLASKER: When that kind of fell apart, you went to Temple Sinai?\n\nTAYLOR: No, no. We were one of the founders of Sinai. Sinai wasn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8130.0,8160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"around. If\nSinai had been around, that's where we would have been.\n\nPLASKER: You helped form it.\n\nTAYLOR: There was a need. At that time, as you recall there was no bar mitzvah\nat The Temple. Jack said there would be a bar mitzvah at The Temple over his\ndead body, and it worked out that way.\n\nPLASKER: Jack?\n\nTAYLOR: Jack [Rabbi Jacob M.] Rothschild. It worked out that way. If you\ninterview Judith, you will have to ask her about Janice. Janice was a wonderful\ngal. There's a lot of interesting stories there. Anyhow, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8160.0,8190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we were among a large\ngroup that formed Sinai because someone wanted a Reform synagogue that provided\nsome of what that group thought were the basics, and that is bar mitzvah.\n\nPLASKER: A little more tradition.\n\nTAYLOR: Not more tradition. Well, you can call it more tradition and you can\ncall it some of what we considered basic things that Jews needed to function in\na Jewish society.\n\nPLASKER: Your children, that was where they really grew up with their worship there?\n\nTAYLOR: They all grew up in Sinai.\n\nPLASKER: What were the Jewish observances in your house, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8190.0,8220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friday night seder, or whatever?\n\nTAYLOR: Not an awful lot. I am sure that at the appropriate time when the\nchildren were the appropriate age, Judith did the appropriate things on Friday\nnight. But it was not a . . . my children all do it, so they must have learned\nit somewhere. My children were probably far more interested or observant than we\nwere. Judith did, of course, all holidays that brought family together. That's\nher focus.\n\nPLASKER: Hanukkah, Rosh Ha-Shanah, Passover?\n\nTAYLOR: Hanukkah. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8220.0,8250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Passover principally. Rosh Ha-Shanah. I suppose, yes.\n\nPLASKER: You said they do in their own homes now. Do each of your children have Judaism.\n\nTAYLOR: To varying degrees, but they all do something.\n\nPLASKER: They're all three married?\n\nTAYLOR: Of course. We have eight grandchildren.\n\nPLASKER: Did they intermarry? Have they married Jewish?\n\nTAYLOR: Chuck married a non-Jewish woman, but the children are reared ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8250.0,8280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish. My\nother three children are married to Jewish people, yes.\n\nPLASKER: As we all see Father Knows Best in the 1960s and the 1950s, mom kind of\nran the show as far as disciplining and child rearing, more or less? You said\nyou were more of a come home in the evening dad?\n\nTAYLOR: No, I think I was probably the disciplinarian.\n\nPLASKER: You got left with the bad ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8280.0,8310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"work.\n\nTAYLOR: Whatever.\n\nPLASKER: It sounds like there was a whole much closer family type situation than\nwhat you came up with yourself?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. No comparison. Different times.\n\nPLASKER: Absolutely. Because you and your wife are so community involved, caring\nabout the world and such, did you find that that was just part of the upbringing\nto imbue this into your children? Did they take to it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8310.0,8340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or did they buck the\nsystem? How did this kind of interaction go on with the kids?\n\nTAYLOR: They got it somewhere because they are all already devoted in one way or\nanother to the kind of things that every parent would like their children to be\ndevoted to.\n\nPLASKER: Your aspirations for them, [has] everything come true that you would want?\n\nTAYLOR: Wherever it came from, it worked out very nicely.\n\nPLASKER: You built the house on West Roxboro and this was near Judith Way. Is\nthat where the kids were brought up? Is that the neighborhood?\n\nTAYLOR: That's the neighborhood.\n\nPLASKER: That's where you stayed until the kids ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8340.0,8370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were out of the house?\n\nTAYLOR: That's where we stayed until we moved here two years ago.\n\nPLASKER: That's about 40 years.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. A little over 40 years.\n\nPLASKER: Wow. Talk about any involvement you have had, and we might have covered\na little bit of this, it might cross over, but involvement with the community,\npolitical, synagogue, UHA, other connections. Are there any things that we\nhaven't covered? Any connections that you might have had?\n\nTAYLOR: Judith didn't miss any of it. She ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8370.0,8400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was on every board and did everything\none might do. I didn't do much.\n\nPLASKER: What were your feelings about Israel, in traveling there and have you,\nand support or not?\n\nTAYLOR: I remember from our first interview, I was thrown out of The Temple\nSunday school because we were Zionist when it wasn't popular. But, no particular\ninvolvement. I've been there once. Judith has been there, I think, twice.\n\nPLASKER: Have you ever taken . . . you have not been there with the children?\n\nTAYLOR: Not been there with the children, no. Don't intend ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8400.0,8430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to.\n\nPLASKER: This is an interesting question they put down here. Do you remember\nvoting in your first presidential election?\n\nTAYLOR: Absolutely.\n\nPLASKER: When was it?\n\nTAYLOR: 1948.\n\nPLASKER: Do you remember who you voted for?\n\nTAYLOR: Yes.\n\nPLASKER: Do you want to tell us?\n\nTAYLOR: Norman Thomas.\n\nPLASKER: Who was that? That's a name I've never heard.\n\nTAYLOR: He was the socialist candidate.\n\nPLASKER: What point in your life were you at and what led to that?\n\nTAYLOR: Georgia had passed the 18-year-old voting law, I think it was, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8430.0,8460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because I\nwas only 20 years old in 1948. That was Harry Truman and Thomas Dewey. That was\nthe one where Thomas Dewey was supposed to win and didn't. A friend of mine at\nschool was the socialist party elector for that part of New York State. He\nbrought Norman Thomas up to the school, and I met him and voted for him.\n\nPLASKER: You were an impressionable ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8460.0,8490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"college kid.\n\nTAYLOR: No, I wasn't impressionable at all.\n\nPLASKER: Really?\n\nTAYLOR: No, I wasn't. I had very strong feelings and not easily changed. I was\nlike most . . .\n\nPLASKER: Idealistic?\n\nTAYLOR: No, I was just a know-it-all. It's interesting because I remember\nchecking, going through some material and finding that the platform, the\nSocialist Party platform for 1948. By the time I found it, 20 odd years later,\n25 years later, everything on it was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8490.0,8520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"law.\n\nPLASKER: You really were a very forward thinker.\n\nTAYLOR: No, I was just involved with something at the time.\n\nPLASKER: It's interesting that that happened. Do you want to talk about . . .\nyou mentioned something about Cumberland Island? Did you want to touch on that?\n\nTAYLOR: A friend of mine, the one that was in the cattle business with me was\nalso in a business with one of the Candler boys. We would fly down to Cumberland\nIsland in my plane, land on their little strip, and hunt. That's where we shot\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8520.0,8550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this. But the reason for the story is the groundskeeper or the keeper of the\nlodge down there, we were sitting around dinner one night, and he was talking\nabout some of the mothballed Navy ships. He was talking about how all the Jews\nwere coming in and stealing the money or what have you. I said, \"You know I'm a\nJew. How do I go get mine?\" It seemed to change the whole attitude of the guy,\nat ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8550.0,8580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"least for the rest of our visit. It's very interesting how a little\nconfrontation in the right way at the right time sometimes works. I was in an\nambience where no one expected a Jew to be.\n\nPLASKER: Yes. What was the change in his attitude?\n\nTAYLOR: He spent the rest of the time trying to make friends with me.\n\nPLASKER: Oh, my goodness. What about this gun collection? Is that a passion of yours?\n\nTAYLOR: I used to love guns I guess the same way I love art, in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8580.0,8610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that it is not\nmodern weapons but up through the time these guns were made, gunsmithing was\nreally one of the finest crafts. If you go back through history, the finest\ncrafts were often in arms. These are just examples of the fine, in this case,\nGerman handicraft probably right after the First World War.\n\nPLASKER: Something I just thought of, the same thing as we talked something\nflashes back. When we spoke before, we talked about where you remembered ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8610.0,8640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going\nto your grandparents for seders and who led and who had the proficiency and who\ndidn't. When it came to you being the matriarch and patriarch of the family, who\nled your seders at your house?\n\nTAYLOR: I did.\n\nPLASKER: You did?\n\nTAYLOR: I did.\n\nPLASKER: You obviously picked it up somewhere.\n\nTAYLOR: No, that was just assigned to me. But do you know what, I didn't do it\nthe same way. I do now, but initially I didn't. Initially, I would try to give\nit a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8640.0,8670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"theme every year. I would go back and either do the history of the time or\npick a particular philosophy. I would find some sort of pedantic theme and do\nthe seder around it. I got tired of that after eight or ten years. But, I did it\nthat way for a while.\n\nPLASKER: Something to be a little more interactive?\n\nTAYLOR: No, just something to be a little more . . .\n\nPLASKER: Interesting?\n\nTAYLOR: Interesting or intellectual rather than just sitting and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8670.0,8700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rereading the\nsame rote stuff that I had remembered sitting and being bored with when I was a kid.\n\nPLASKER: Who do you think have been the most important influences in your life?\n\nTAYLOR: That's a tough one. You mean in terms of immediate family type of things?\n\nPLASKER: I think in any way, if there might be.\n\nTAYLOR: One or two teachers. I suppose my father. My ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8700.0,8730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wife. Those are probably\nthe major influences.\n\nPLASKER: You have nice influences.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes.\n\nPLASKER: Another question. What historical events have had a major impact on\nyour life? The Depression? World War I? You said the Depression definitely\ncolored the way your life was led at the beginning. You mentioned World War II\nhaving an effect on you getting out of school earlier.\n\nTAYLOR: That's a strange question. Anyone who is my age who has lived here for\n75 years has been affected by precisely the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8730.0,8760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"same events. So the only real\nquestion would be, \"Would they have affected me any more or less than anyone\nelse?\" Certainly, the Depression had. We weren't dirt poor, so I guess it\naffected me less than it affected a lot of people. My father was in the\npharmacy, and although it certainly made it hard scrabble for him, I am sure\nthat we were a lot better off than most.\n\nPLASKER: Did Vietnam make any effect on your life at all?\n\nTAYLOR: Vietnam had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8760.0,8790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no material effect on my life any more than it effected\neveryone else in the country.\n\nPLASKER: You chose not to be affected, and you were too old.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. I thought it might had more or a different effect, but it slips me\nnow. Basically, I was here and effected just the same way anybody else was.\n\nPLASKER: What about the late 1960s, the way it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8790.0,8820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was, I don't know if you'd call\nit a cultural revolution, but how, I guess revolution against authority and such.\n\nTAYLOR: People. The neolism of the 1960s affected people raising young children\nat the time and about the same way. You had the same concerns about your\nchildren and that general neolism. It started in the colleges, and that didn't\nhurt anything because those kids went on and got their degrees and got back into\nsociety. It spread to the high schools, and that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8820.0,8850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"blew a few of the kids out.\nThose were the ones that you saw whose teeth had been straightened but they were\nstill doing menial jobs. But you knew that if you could keep your kids off\ndrugs, then that was really the main concern. You looked around and some of your\nfriends who you thought, you could not imagine how their kids could have gotten\ncaught, got caught. You knew your kids were doing certain things. You just had\nto limit it as much as you could. It was a touch and go ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8850.0,8880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time, yes. It was a\ntouch and go time for anyone who was rearing children, and you were affected\nonly if you were rearing children, I think.\n\nPLASKER: You've seen Atlanta and the Jewish community go through this time of,\nas we started talking, they were very separate. As you said, you made inroads\ninto Jews in the arts in Atlanta and such. Do you see . . .\n\nTAYLOR: There was economics that changed it. It was the Second World War and the\neconomics that resulted from it that I think broke down those ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8880.0,8910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"German-Russian\nbarriers. I'm sure that's what it was.\n\nPLASKER: What is your feeling about the future of the American Jewish community,\nAtlanta Jewish community, and Atlanta?\n\nTAYLOR: That's too big a question. Probably, in the long pull, I would have\nguessed, if you had asked me the question 50 years ago, that by now religion\nwould not be much of a factor. There would just be association with communities.\nI would have been very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8910.0,8940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wrong, clearly. But at any time, the best guess would be\nthat the more observant Jews will remain Jews and the less observant Jews will\nbegin to wander away, though that has not happened either.\n\nPLASKER: Seems to be resurge in traditional.\n\nTAYLOR: Yes. But what I had thought was the traditionalists would stay within\nthe religion and the others would assimilate to a greater or lesser degree. That\nhasn't happened. The less observant Jews, it appears to me, have ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8940.0,8970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"continued to\nassociate. So, I don't know. I'll tell you in 50 years.\n\nPLASKER: I hope you can. I hope I am here and we can talk again. List your most\nimportant values and then tell me if you think you've transmitted them to your\nchildren. If you think that their priorities are the same as your priorities.\n\nTAYLOR: I've always tried to have integrity, and I think all of my children have\nintegrity. My father once said ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=8970.0,9000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something to mother, and dad pretty well did\nanything mother wanted. There was something that we wanted to do and mother\ndidn't want it. He said to mother, \"Mark said such-and-such.\" Mother said,\n\"That's a lie.\" Dad said, \"He's never told a lie in his life.\" That's not true\neither. But that was my father's concept of my integrity. I hope that's my\nchildren's. I think my children are the same way. I think they have total\nintegrity. I think they are humanists. I think they have ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=9000.0,9030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/transcript/31603/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"integrity. That's all I\nwould want.\n\nPLASKER: Any other comments you want to make or anything else you want to touch\non or tell us about?\n\nTAYLOR: Oh, goodness. Let's turn it off for a second and see if we can think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=9030.0,9060.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Annotations [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Great Depression was a severe worldwide economic depression in the decade preceding World War II. The time of the Great Depression varied across nations, but in most countries it started in about 1929 and lasted until the late 1930s or early 1940s. It was the longest, most widespread, and deepest depression of the twentieth century.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e[1] Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium served as the home ballpark for the Atlanta Braves baseball team for 31 seasons from 1966 to 1996.  In 1997, the Braves moved less than one block to Turner Field.  It was built to serve the 1996 Summer Olympics. The Braves played their final game at Turner Field on October 2, 2016.  In 2016, Georgia State University bought the ballpark and redesigned it for a college football stadium.  The Braves played their first game in 2017 in their new home stadium, SunTrust Park, located in Cobb County, a suburb north of the city.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eShabbat (Hebrew) or Shabbos (Yiddish) is the Jewish day of rest and is observed on Saturdays.  Shabbat observance entails refraining from work activities, often with great rigor, and engaging in restful activities to honor the day. Shabbat begins at sundown on Friday night and is ushered in by lighting candles and reciting a blessing. It is closed the following evening with the recitation of the havdalah blessing.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRabbi Harry Epstein (1903-2003) served as the rabbi of Ahavath Achim Synagogue in Atlanta, Georgia from 1928 to 1982.  Under his leadership the congregation began to shift to Conservatism, which they adopted in 1952. Rabbi Epstein retired in 1982, becoming Rabbi Emeritus and Rabbi Arnold Goodman assumed the rabbinic post.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e Reva (Rebecca) Chashesman Epstein (1905-2001) was the well-educated daughter of an Orthodox rabbi. Her family immigrated to Chicago, Illinois from Poland after World War I. In 1929, she married Rabbi Harry Epstein. Reva served as an Atlanta Hadassah chapter president.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFounded in 1904, Shearith Israel began as a congregation that met in the homes of congregants until 1906 when they began using a Methodist church on Hunter Street. After World War II, Rabbi Tobias Geffen moved the congregation to University Drive, where it became the first synagogue in DeKalb County. In the 1960s, they removed the barrier between the men’s and women’s sections in the sanctuary, and officially became affiliated with the Conservative movement in 2002.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e[1] Ahavath Achim was founded in 1887 in a small room on Gilmer Street. In 1901 they moved to a permanent building at the corner of Piedmont and Gilmer Street. In 1921, the congregation constructed a synagogue at Washington Street and Woodward Avenue. The final service in that building was held in 1958 to make way for construction of the Downtown Connector (the concurrent section of Interstate 75 and Interstate 85 through Atlanta). 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The cornerstone was laid on the Temple on Garnett Street in 1875.  The dedication was held in 1877 and the Temple was located there until 1902.  The Temple’s next location on Pryor Street was dedicated in 1902. The Temple’s current location in Midtown on Peachtree Street was dedicated in 1931. The main sanctuary is on the National Register of Historic Places. The Reform congregation now totals approximately 1,500 families (2015).\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eZionism is a movement that supports a Jewish national state in the territory defined as the Land of Israel. Although Zionism existed before the nineteenth century, in the 1890s Theodor Herzl popularized it and gave it a new urgency, as he believed that Jewish life in Europe was threatened and a State of Israel was needed.  The State of Israel was established in 1948 and Zionism today is expressed as support for the continued existence of Israel.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRabbi David Marx was a long-time rabbi at the Temple in Atlanta, Georgia. He led the move toward Reform Judaism practices. He served as rabbi from 1895 to 1946. 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The original location was opened in 1928 but soon grew so popular it was relocated to its present location on North Avenue in Downtown Atlanta. Billed as America’s largest drive-in, the present structure covers two city blocks and has the capacity to accommodate 600 patrons and 800 cars. The catchphrase, \"What'll ya have?\" once used by frazzled employees has become part of modern Atlanta culture.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eHadassah, the Women’s Zionist Organization of America, is a volunteer organization founded in 1912 by Henrietta Szold, with more than 300,000 members and supporters worldwide. 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In 1905, it was reorganized as the ‘Standard Club’ and moved into the former mansion of William C. Sanders near the site of Georgia State Stadium (formerly Turner Field). In the late 1920s the club moved to Ponce de Leon Avenue in Midtown Atlanta. Later, the club moved to what is now the Lenox Park business park and was located there until 1983. 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Marked by mass deaths of civilians, including the Holocaust (in which approximately 6 million Jews were killed) and the strategic bombing of industrial and population centers (in which approximately one million were killed, and which included the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki), it resulted in an estimated 50 million to 85 million fatalities. These made World War II the deadliest conflict in human history.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eLocated at the corner of Ponce and N. Highland in the Poncey-Highland neighborhood of Atlanta, Briarcliff Plaza was designed by architect George Harwell Bond and opened in 1939.  Today, it is anchored by the historic Plaza Theatre and Urban Outfitters, the former iconic Plaza Drugs. Adjacent to Briarcliff Plaza is the equally iconic Majestic Diner, open since 1929.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Masonic Temple was located at the northwest corner of Peachtree Street and Cain Street (now Andrew Young International Blvd.) in downtown Atlanta from 1909-1950. The architect was John Robert Dillon.  In September 1950 a fire gutted the building. 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The central theme of the Kaddish is the magnification and sanctification of G-d's name. Along with the Shema and Amidah, the Kaddish is one of the most important and central elements in the Jewish liturgy.  Mourner's Kaddish is said at all prayer services and certain other occasions. Following the death of a parent, child, spouse, or sibling it is customary to recite the Mourner's Kaddish in the presence of a congregation daily for 30 days, or 11 months in the case of a parent, and then at every anniversary of the death. 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In addition, Jews are also supposed to avoid foods made with wheat, barley, rye, spelt or oats unless those foods are labeled ‘kosher for Passover.’ Jews traditionally have separate dishes for Passover.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eSeder (meaning “order” in Hebrew”) is a Jewish ritual feast that marks the beginning of the Jewish holiday of Passover. It is conducted on the evening of the fifteenth day of Nisan in the Hebrew calendar throughout the world.  Some communities hold seder on both the first two nights of Passover. 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While other kosher for Passover food companies, such as Manischewitz and Streit’s, also distributed their own Haggadah, the Maxwell House Haggadah became the best known and most widely used in American Jewish homes.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eKosher/Kashrut is the set of Jewish dietary laws. Food that may be consumed according to halakhah (Jewish law) is termed ‘kosher’ in English. Kosher refers to Jewish laws that dictate how food is prepared or served and which kinds of foods or animals can be eaten. Food that is not in accordance with Jewish law is called ‘treif.’ The word ‘kosher’ has become English vernacular, a colloquialism meaning proper, legitimate, genuine, fair, or acceptable. Kosher can also be used to describe ritual objects that are made in accordance with Jewish law and are fit for ritual use.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/46918/file/120307/annotation_set/552/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eA bris, formally known as the ‘brit milah’ (Hebrew: Covenant of Circumcision) involves surgically removing the foreskin of the penis.  Circumcision is performed only on males on the eighth day of the child's life. 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