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He had an older brother, Theodore. He attended Boys High School and was in the first graduating class at Henry Grady High School in Atlanta. He received his undergraduate and law degree from Emory University. Levitas was a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford University in England, where he obtained a Master of Law Degree. He also served two years in the US Air Force and was a member of the Judge Advocate General’s Staff.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eHe was admitted to the Georgia Bar Association in 1955 and began his law practice at Arnall, Golden and Gregory. Levitas became active in the Democratic party in the 1960s. In 1965, he ran for public office for the first time and was elected to the Georgia House of Representatives, where he served until 1974. He was then elected to represent Georgia’s 4th District in the U.S. House of Representatives, becoming Georgia’s first Jewish congressman. He was re-elected four times, serving in Congress until January 1985. He lost his re-election bid in November of 1984 and returned to practicing law. Levitas joined Kilpatrick \u0026amp; Cody, now Kilpatrick Townsend where he practiced law for 30 years until his retirement. He served on the plaintiff’s legal team for the landmark case Cobell v. Norton, which was a class action suit against the US government for their failure to handle Native American lands held in trust. The government settled the case for $3.4 billion, which was the largest class-action settlement against them. \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLevitas was known as a political crusader who stood against racism, injustice, and environmental protection. He was active in the Atlanta Jewish Community and was a member of the Ahavath Achim Congregation. He was also active with the Anti-Defamation League. He maintained a close relationship with Emory University and annually the university’s Political Science department presents the Elliott Levitas Award to an outstanding senior. Levitas married his high school sweetheart Barbara Hillman in 1955. They had three children, Karin, Susan, and Kevin.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eElliott begins the interview by sharing details on the case name and defendants in Corbell v. Norton. He details the long-standing relationship between the Native Americans and United States Government. He discusses why the Allocation Act of 1887 came to be and the impact it had on the Native Americans. He recalls how Eloiuse Corbell discovered a larger issue with the trust accounts being paid to the Native Americans from the federal government. He recounts how he got involved in the case through a former Oxford classmate, Thaddeus Holt. Levitas discusses the early progress of the case and getting standing as a class-action lawsuit which changed the case for them.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eHe describes how Judge Royce Lamberth's view of the case began to change over time as more details of the government's actions became known. He mentions the government’s disrespectful attitude towards Native Americans and that it became a driving factor for him since he was also from a minority group that had been mistreated. Levitas shares how Judge Lamberth was removed from the case after his opinions were increasingly against the government, but that it did not impact the outcome of the case. He talks about the settlement that was finally reached with the government for $3.4 billion and how that impacted the Native Americans. He reflects on what being involved in this landmark case meant to him, how it changed his view of the Justice Department, and how happy he felt that the Native Americans had finally received some justice.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLevitas spoke about Elouise Cobell's reaction and how she never wavered in her determination to move forward when others had doubts. He talks about why he thinks the government was so entrenched in its position. He shares how he finally got Secretary of Interior Bruce Babbitt to finally admit the government’s fault during two days of cross-examination. He discusses the reaction of Elouise Cobell and her dying before the settlement was distributed. He recalls getting congressional approval of the settlement. He remembers what interaction he had with the individuals on the reservation and how the settlement was really needed by those on the reservation. He ends the interview by discussing the legacy of the case and how it was a highlight of his career.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/29103"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Levitas, Elliott (1930-2022) (personal name)","Levitas, Barbara (b. 1934) (personal name)","Norton, Gale (b. 1954) (personal name)","Cobell, Elouise (1945-2011) (personal name)","Gingold, Dennis (b. 1949) (personal name)","Holt, Thaddeus (1929-2018) (personal name)","Lamberth, Royce (b. 1943) (personal name)","Babbitt, Bruce (b. 1938) (personal name)","Clinton, William (b. 1946) (personal name)","Washington, D.C. 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Levitas became active in the Democratic party in the 1960s. In 1965, he ran for public office for the first time and was elected to the Georgia House of Representatives, where he served until 1974. He was then elected to represent Georgia\u0026rsquo;s 4th District in the U.S. House of Representatives, becoming Georgia\u0026rsquo;s first Jewish congressman. He was re-elected four times, serving in Congress until January 1985. He lost his re-election bid in November of 1984 and returned to practicing law. Levitas joined Kilpatrick \u0026amp; Cody, now Kilpatrick Townsend where he practiced law for 30 years until his retirement. He served on the plaintiff\u0026rsquo;s legal team for the landmark case Cobell v. Norton, which was a class action suit against the US government for their failure to handle Native American lands held in trust. 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He discusses why the Allocation Act of 1887 came to be and the impact it had on the Native Americans. He recalls how Eloiuse Corbell discovered a larger issue with the trust accounts being paid to the Native Americans from the federal government. He recounts how he got involved in the case through a former Oxford classmate, Thaddeus Holt. Levitas discusses the early progress of the case and getting standing as a class-action lawsuit which changed the case for them.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eHe describes how Judge Royce Lamberth's view of the case began to change over time as more details of the government's actions became known. He mentions the government\u0026rsquo;s disrespectful attitude towards Native Americans and that it became a driving factor for him since he was also from a minority group that had been mistreated. 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My name is Sandra Berman. I am here with\nElliott Levitas, who has agreed to participate in the Esther and Herbert Taylor\nOral History Project for the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum. I'm so\npleased that . . . we have this opportunity to interview you about this really\nlandmark case the Cobell v. Babbitt, but then it changes to other names.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LEVITAS: Yes, the original name in the case I don't think was Babbitt. I'll\nthink of it in a minute. But the defendant, the principal defendant, there were\na number of defendants, but the principal defendant was the Secretary of\nInterior, whoever she or he was. [Gale] Norton was the other one that I couldn't\nthink of. She was Secretary of Interior. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because the Department of Interior,\nsince the very beginning, since the early 19th century, was the department in\nthe federal government that had jurisdiction over Indians. The Bureau of Indian\nAffairs is located in the Interior Department.\n\nBERMAN: To begin with, you said, and I reread ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the particulars of the case, that\nthis case changed your feelings about government. I want to know initially what\nwas the case all about.\n\nLEVITAS: The case was about a system that had to do with property owned by\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Native Americans. When the English and the Europeans came to this continent. Of\ncourse, there were Native Americans here. Over a period of many years, the\nEuropeans actually occupied and took the land that belonged to the Native\nAmericans. First on the East Coast and then later ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"major opportunities of taking\nit in the Midwest and in the far West. That's where we got our system of\nreservations. But in the 1880s, there was a movement in the liberal quarters and\nthe intellectual quarters. The universities, Harvard [and] Yale ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that [the]\nIndians needed their land back that it was their land. In the 1880s, Congress\npassed several pieces of legislation, one of which was the Allocation Act of\n188[7]. What that act did is it took 100 million acres, 99 million acres of\nIndian ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"land, which now the United States own, and cut it up into allotments.\n[It] redistributed those allotments to the Native American individuals.\nIndividuals own those. But the government, at that time in the 1880s, were\nconvinced that the Indians couldn't manage their own land. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From their point of\nview, to do them a favor, [the Native Americans] didn't see it that way. But to\ndo them a favor, the government took the land that they had just distributed,\ntook it back and said, \"We're going to hold it in trust for you.\" That created\nthis vast individual Indian monetary trust that we're talking about. 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While the\nIndian own the land, and since he was the beneficiary of the trust, [the]\ngovernment officials actually administered the money and administered the land.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From day one the system was mismanaged. I'd say that, but I'm not the one who's\nthe authority. The judge who decided this case said it was mismanaged from day\none. Mismanagement meant not really accounting for the money. 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But that's not getting us anywhere.\"\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dennis Gingold had worked with a banking lawyer, whose name was Thaddeus Holt\nfrom Alabama. Thaddeus Holt was with one of the major law firms, Covington \u0026\nBurling in Washington [D.C.], and was an outstanding lawyer. 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I said I would, but only with the understanding\nthat I could use the resources of my law firm, Kilpatrick Townsend [\u0026] Stockton.\nWhich was a major law firm with a lot ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of people who were knowledgeable about\nlitigation, about accounting, about real estate. Thad and Dennis said, \"No, they\ndidn't want to work with a big law firm.\" They'd been in big firms, and that's\nnot what they wanted. They'd have to work with me, and I said, \"Okay. But you\nunderstand I'm going to work with them. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=720.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a government program and you can't ask for an\naccounting of a government program. You can ask for an accounting for a trust,\nbut not for a government program. That was their first argument. Secondly, you\ncan't sue the government. Period. Sovereign immunity it's called. Third, even if\nyou could, you cannot prove the mismanagement. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I've got all your papers here so you can\nadd that in later.\n\nLEVITAS: We got to all of the witnesses . . .\n\nLEVITAS, BARBARA: The case was filed June 10th, 1996, in the U.S. District Court\nfor the District of Columbia.\n\nLEVITAS: [That] didn't say when the trial began.\n\nLEVITAS, BARBARA: No. It says the case was filed.\n\nLEVITAS: But the main thing is that when the trial came, the government put on\ntheir witnesses trying to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"show that they had done a good job. The best you could\ndo. We may not have been able to do everything because we couldn't, but we\nreally worked hard and we can't be held liable for that. By this time, Judge\nLamberth, who was conservative, skeptical about our case, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had been listening to\nall this testimony. He flipped and he became such an advocate for the Indians.\nHe . . . got so angry with the government that he began to write opinions in\nmany of his rulings. Which . . . sounded tougher and more aggressive than what\nthe Indians lawyers were writing. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He came down on them. He said, \"He had thought\nthe age of colonialism was over, but it's still with us.\" He became passionate\nabout the Indians, so much so that the government finally removed him as judge\nand put in another judge. But by that time the die was cast. The other judge was\nnot hostile. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was a major historic victory for the Native Americans.\n\nBERMAN: What does being on that case, being a part of this historical landmark\ncase, what does that mean to you?\n\nLEVITAS: It makes me feel, I think I said after the case was over. 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The lawyers who\nworked for them were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people who [I] had always been impressed [by]. I begin to\nsee these people as hacks, who were only interested in winning the point and not\nseeing justice done. They were fighting to resist having justice done. To have a\njudge come in and say you need an accounting. 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But I felt so happy for them because, as they said,\n\"This is the first time our government has ever ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given us justice.\" And that's a\ngreat feeling, over 100 years.\n\nBERMAN: What was Elouise's reaction? 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She not only\nrealized the injustice and undertook to do something ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about it. But every\nroadblock that could be placed in her way, she had to move. People who she had\nsupporting her would become discouraged and want to go back to their farms or\ndaily lives. 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I don't want to get too\nmuch in the technical weeds, but even after we won the case, because of the\nnature of the award made by the government, billions of dollars. We had to get\ntwo bills passed through Congress in order to ratify the settlement and\nauthorize its implementation. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We went from struggling through this judicial\nmarathon of 16 years and then found ourselves at the starting line of another\npotential long-term battle because anything that goes to Congress is going to be\ncontroversial. This was controversial because it was a lot of money. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was\nsomething that the government never really wanted to do. They had other uses for\nthe funds. It was an embarrassment. Then, as I said before, they were just Indians.\n\nBERMAN: Why do you think the government was so entrenched in their position?\n\nLEVITAS: I can tell you my opinion. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not really an expert on it, but I was\nclose enough to it. From about 1828 on up until the present day, the Bureau of\nIndian Affairs was the principal interface in Indian country. Some of the things\nthese people did. You really wouldn't even believe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they treated the Indian so\nbadly, so disrespectfully. It was a culture. 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I think I sent you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"an article about\nmy cross-examination of Bruce Babbitt, which was a turning point in the whole\ncase. Bruce Babbitt, Secretary of Interior. A very brilliant man. In fact, he\nwas considered by [Bill] Clinton for appointment to the Supreme Court, and had a\nvery good reputation. 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I was so happy\nthat she came up to Washington. Not for that, but it just happened. For three\ndays I cross-examined him. On the second day, it was Friday afternoon and I\nthink it's a religious principle for the government that they don't work on\nShabbat. They decided to work on Shabbat on this occasion. On Saturday morning,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we got back before the judge early in the morning, picked up the examination.\nAbout halfway through the morning, late morning. Babbitt and I had been going\nback and forth. That's that picture you see. [points to a photo] He finally\nturned to me. First, he said, \"Mr. Levitas, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't like being cross-examined by\nlawyers.\" I said, \"I'm sorry for that but that's what we have to do here today.\"\nI went on for a few minutes and then he said, \"Okay. I'll give you what you\nwant. Here it is. My name is Bruce Babbitt. I'm the Secretary of Interior. I'm\nin charge of the Bureau of Indian Affairs. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is an Indian individual money\ntrust that exists and we are not fulfilling our fiduciary duties to the\nbeneficiaries of that trust.\" At which point Judge Lamberth leaned over [phone\nrings] and said, \"Mr. Levitas, I think you're there.\" I turn and said, I thank\nyour honor, I rest.\" It was very dramatic.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: Could we, because the phone rang. The phone rang at the worst possible\ntime when you were saying that. Can you repeat that last part?\n\nLEVITAS: I can't remember it, help me.\n\nBERMAN: You said it was the third day of examination and Bruce Babbitt finally\ngave you what you wanted.\n\nLEVITAS: Bruce Babbitt first told me he didn't like being cross-examined. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then I\nassured him . . . [they] wanted me to repeat it, Babs.\n\nLEVITAS, BARBARA: I want you to tell what he actually said to you.\n\nLEVITAS: [He said,] \"I've had enough. I'll give you what you all. My name is\nBruce Babbitt. I'm Secretary of Interior. As such, I'm in charge of the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"individual Indian monetary trust and the Bureau of Indian Affairs. I'm the\ntrustee of this trust. The United States is the trustee of this trust, and we\nare not fulfilling our fiduciary duties to the Indians.\"\n\nBERMAN: Did you just breathe a sigh of relief?\n\nLEVITAS: Yes\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: How did you feel at that moment?\n\nLEVITAS: I got the message from the judge who leaned over the bench and said,\n\"Mr. Levitas, I think you're there.\" Which told me I [should] stop talking,\nwhich I did.\n\nBERMAN: What was the reaction in the courtroom?\n\nLEVITAS: I don't know, what was it Babs. I was . . . You were there.\n\nLEVITAS, BARBARA: Sigh of relief from a lot of big happy . . . faces, smiling.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: Did you keep in contact with any of the American Indians who you . . . ?\n\nLEVITAS: Some of the . . .\n\nBERMAN: The defendant.\n\nLEVITAS: Elouise Cobell, unfortunately, died of cancer. But she died after she\nknew it was all going to go forward. She didn't actually see it happen. I have\nlikened when people ask me about that, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1920.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elouise was a lot like Moses. She started\nthis exodus from depravity and being scorned into mainstream. From being\noppressed by the government to beginning to get some justice from the\ngovernment. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She was, as I would say, she knew we'd won the case . . . The\nlegislation hadn't passed. But she had climbed the mountain, looked over into\nthat promised land. She saw it. She knew it was going to be good. She died.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: Did you visit any of the reservations where some of the funds finally\nwent to?\n\nLEVITAS: I did some. The other lawyers on our team spent a lot of time in the\nreservations, trying to help them find evidence that could show they were\nbeneficiaries of the trust. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the end we were able to get the approval of Congress, I\nthink overwhelmingly. But that was another fight we had to testify to explain\nthe rulings of the court. It was a saga. It is a real saga.\n\nBERMAN: How long did [it] take to get Congress's approval?\n\nLEVITAS: From the time ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we started, a little over two years.\n\nBERMAN: Have you heard from any of the individuals who ended up getting the\nfunds about how it has changed their lives?\n\nLEVITAS: Yes.\n\nBERMAN: Can you tell some of those stories?\n\nLEVITAS: Most of them live in North [Dakota], South Dakota, Idaho, Montana,\nArizona, New Mexico. 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Aside from being really overjoyed about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"getting this\nmoney. These are not casino Indians. These are dirt-farm Indians. They needed\nthis money on a daily basis. They had the same kind of reaction you or I would\nhave if we were in financial straits, and all of a sudden we got some money to\nhelp us out of them. That was one thing. That was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"almost inevitably going to be\nthe case. But the other is the fact that they stood a little bit taller. Because\nnow they were pretty much like other Americans. As they said, \"It was the first\ntime they'd gotten justice from their government.\"\n\nBERMAN: When you look back on your career, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was this one of the highlights?\n\nLEVITAS: No question, it would be one of the highest of any lawyer's career, not\njust mine. This is a landmark case. American jurisprudence for a variety of\nreasons, some of which I'm not going to bother you with because they are legal\nissues that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were resolved. But those legal issues are now a new part of American\njurisprudence. They had a tremendous impact on the law. The other is the\nhistoric aspect of it. If you go back and look, there are many books on this.\nCollege classes ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"teaching Indian history in America and what happened during the\nvarious phases of colonization, of harmonization, of conflict, of conquest, of\nreservations. This was another one, the Cobell era will be the Cobell era in\ntheir history.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BERMAN: Another part of this, when you look back and you think about what you\nsaid earlier that here you were, a Jewish boy from Georgia ending up with this\nlandmark case with the American Indians. Did you in your wildest dreams, did you\never think something like this would come to pass?\n\nLEVITAS: Never would have dreamed it. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ever. My friendship with Thad Holt. Who\nis, if not the best lawyer I've ever known, one of the best. His work with\nGingold, who was a very knowledgeable banking lawyer, which we needed. Our team\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was fortunate to have the different talents we each had. As I predicted after\nabout six months of my being the interface between Gingold and Holt and my\nKilpatrick Townsend colleagues, our legal team just embraced them. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/transcript/43182/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We brought\nthe firm into the case. At one time, this is a vast case by the way, I can't\ntell you how vast. But in the district court building in Washington, they had to\nhave a special room just to keep files of this case. To give you some idea of\nits magnitude. 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Thank you.\n\nLEVITAS: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=2460.0,2490.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/annotation_set/1038","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Annotations [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/annotation_set/1038/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eSandra Katz \"Sandy\" Berman is an American archivist. A native of Cleveland, Ohio, she was the founding archivist of the Cleveland Jewish Archives. She later moved to Atlanta, Georgia, and in 1985 became the founding archivist of the Ida Pearle and Joseph Cuba Archives for Southern Jewish History at the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum. During her 28-year tenure at the Breman, she co-curated multiple exhibitions and expanded the scope of the museum to include collections from Jewish communities throughout Georgia and surrounding states. She is the interviewer for many of the oral histories that can be found in this collection.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/annotation_set/1038/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Foundation was founded in 1983 and is administered by the Jewish Federation of Greater Atlanta. The Foundation supports the Oral History Project at the Breman Museum in Atlanta.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/annotation_set/1038/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum in Atlanta celebrates and commemorates Jewish history, culture, and art through events and museum spaces. The Breman also contains the Cuba Family Archives for Southern Jewish History, which houses thousands of manuscripts, oral histories, and photograph collections, related to southern Jewish history and the Holocaust. 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The case was settled for $3.4 billion in 2009, $1.4 billion allocated to be paid to plaintiffs and $2 billion allocated to repurchase fractionated land interests from those distributed under the Dawes Act and return it to the reservations and communal tribal ownership. It also created a scholarship fund of $60 million for Native American and Alaska Native students. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/annotation_set/1038/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Secretary of Interior is the head of the United States Department of the Interior, which is responsible for the management and conservation of most federal land and the natural resources. The secretary serves on and appoints the private citizens on the National Park Foundation Board. They are a member of the United States Cabinet and reports to the President.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/annotation_set/1038/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eGale Norton (b. 1954) is an American politician and attorney. She served as the 48th US Secretary of the Interior under President George W. Bush from 2001-2006. She previously served as the Attorney General of Colorado from 1991-1999.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/annotation_set/1038/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Department of the Interior is a federal agency that oversees the management and conservation of most federal land and the natural resources. The agencies under the department include the Bureau of Land Management, the United States Geological Survey, the Bureau of Indian Affairs, and the National Park Services. 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The agency also works with tribal governments to help administer law enforcement and justice, promote development of agriculture, infrastructure, the economy, enhance tribal government, assist in managing natural resources, and advance the quality of life for tribal communities.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/annotation_set/1038/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eDuring the 1870 to 1900 there was a departure from earlier government policies towards the Native Americans. Policies that were once focused on removal, treaties, reservations, and war were replaced by policies that focused on breaking up the reservations and granting land allotments to individual Native Americans, encouraging them to take up agriculture on the lands. It was believed that these actions would encourage the Native Americans to take up “White” ways, be responsible for their own farms, and give up their “Indian” ways.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/annotation_set/1038/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eHarvard University is a private Ivy League university located in Cambridge, Massachusetts. 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It weakened the social structure of the tribes, made it difficult for nomadic Native Americans to adjust to agricultural existence, swindled some out of their lands, and allowed the federal government to sell any “surplus” land to white settlers.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/90439/file/186622/annotation_set/1038/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eElouise Cobell/Yellow Bird Woman (1945-2011) was a Blackfoot tribal elder, activist, banker, rancher, and the lead plaintiff in the class-action lawsuit Cobell v. Norton. Her actions challenged the United States mismanagement of trust funds that belonged to over 500,000 Native Americans. 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