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Her father was a diamond cleaver and Lucy enjoyed a comfortable childhood. When the Germans invaded Belgium in May 1940, Lucy, her father, and her very pregnant mother fled to France with fourteen other family members. In France, the family was interred for two months. After their release, the women, children, and one of the older men in the group found refuge in a small town in unoccupied France. Lucy’s father and four other men were arrested by the Vichy government and later deported. In August 1940, Lucy’s younger sister, Beatrice was born.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn the fall of 1940, life in Vichy France became too dangerous for the women and children. The women decided to go into hiding, but placed the children with the Oeuvre de Secours aux Enfants [French: Children’s Relief Work, or OSE]. Lucy’s mother was arrested and deported soon after she dropped baby Beatrice off with an OSE agent. Lucy and her cousins were sent to a children’s home in central France. They were then split up and Lucy was left at a convent in southern France. Lucy was then sent to a private home in La Sone, France. Finally in 1945, she was sent to another OSE children’s home in Saint-Paul-en-Chablais, France, which was isolated high in the Alps near the Italian border. After the war, Lucy and Beatrice were reunited. Neither of their parents survived. The sisters spent the next two years in Antwerp, Belgium, living with family that had survived.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn 1947, Lucy and her sister came to the United States. They lived with family in Atlanta, Georgia. Lucy finished school and married Sam Carson. Together, they began a successful business and had three sons.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eLucy shares her memories of her early childhood in Antwerp, Belgium. She describes fleeing Belgium with her extend family when the Germans invaded and being interred at a camp for foreign Jews in France. After their release, Lucy recounts the village and an abandoned train station where her family found refuge. Lucy details being separated from the family and spending the remainder of the war in hiding at two children’s homes, a convent, and a private home. She describes being reunited with her sister and returning to Antwerp after the war. Lucy considers her own motivation to survive and her dependence on the generosity of others. She talks about coming to the United States and her adjustment to American culture. Lucy reflects on raising her children, what she shared with them about her experiences, and her return to France after four decades. \u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/27961"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Carson, Lucy Rosenblith, 1931- (personal name)","Antwerp, Belgium (geographic)","German invasion (topical term)","going into hiding (topical term)","family (topical term)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eLucy Carson interviewed by John Kent and Ruth Eisntein in Atlanta Gerogia on June 18, 2007.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eLuiza “Lucy” Rosenblith was born in Antwerp, Belgium in 1931. Her father was a diamond cleaver and Lucy enjoyed a comfortable childhood. When the Germans invaded Belgium in May 1940, Lucy, her father, and her very pregnant mother fled to France with fourteen other family members. In France, the family was interred for two months. After their release, the women, children, and one of the older men in the group found refuge in a small town in unoccupied France. Lucy’s father and four other men were arrested by the Vichy government and later deported. In August 1940, Lucy’s younger sister, Beatrice was born.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn the fall of 1940, life in Vichy France became too dangerous for the women and children. The women decided to go into hiding, but placed the children with the Oeuvre de Secours aux Enfants [French: Children’s Relief Work, or OSE]. Lucy’s mother was arrested and deported soon after she dropped baby Beatrice off with an OSE agent. Lucy and her cousins were sent to a children’s home in central France. They were then split up and Lucy was left at a convent in southern France. Lucy was then sent to a private home in La Sone, France. Finally in 1945, she was sent to another OSE children’s home in Saint-Paul-en-Chablais, France, which was isolated high in the Alps near the Italian border. After the war, Lucy and Beatrice were reunited. Neither of their parents survived. The sisters spent the next two years in Antwerp, Belgium, living with family that had survived.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn 1947, Lucy and her sister came to the United States. They lived with family in Atlanta, Georgia. Lucy finished school and married Sam Carson. Together, they began a successful business and had three sons.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eLucy shares her memories of her early childhood in Antwerp, Belgium. She describes fleeing Belgium with her extend family when the Germans invaded and being interred at a camp for foreign Jews in France. After their release, Lucy recounts the village and an abandoned train station where her family found refuge. Lucy details being separated from the family and spending the remainder of the war in hiding at two children’s homes, a convent, and a private home. She describes being reunited with her sister and returning to Antwerp after the war. Lucy considers her own motivation to survive and her dependence on the generosity of others. She talks about coming to the United States and her adjustment to American culture. Lucy reflects on raising her children, what she shared with them about her experiences, and her return to France after four decades. \u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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My father's name was Berl Rosenblith, and my mother's name was Machla Strikler ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rosenblith. They were originally from Poland. They immigrated to Antwerp, Belgium, where I was born. \n\nJohn: Do you know why? Just briefly. \n\nLucy: Why? I think that [it was] probably better opportunities and some of the\nfamily lived there already. My father had gone to France and studied in France. I had an uncle there that was in the diamond ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"business. My father learned how to be a diamond cleaver. Also they had a men's store, where they sold all kinds--a big store--and three family members ran the store.\n\nJohn: The name of the store? \n\nLucy: The name of the store? I don't remember that, but it was 73 ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pelikaanstraat in Antwerp.\n\nJohn: Good memory.\n\nRuth: Right under the railroad tracks, in the middle of downtown Antwerp. I\nreally don't remember much about my childhood. Why, I don't know, but I don't. All I remember is a happy home. I lived there with my mother and father. We had family . . . \n\nJohn: Any brothers or sisters? \n\nLucy: That came ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"later. \n\nJohn: When were you born? \n\nLucy: On July 24, 1931. That made me nine years old when the war began. I\nthought I was seven . . . nine . . . in 1931 in May, so I wasn't quite\nnine. The war started in May of 1940. 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As far as: did I go to school [and] what I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did . . . really, it's\nalways puzzled me why I wouldn't remember happy times. You know people do remember when they are seven years old. I remember my cousin Regina and playing with her all the time. She had a lot of dolls in her house. We lived in an apartment. I think she had a house. I remember going to the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"park, but very vague things, nothing specific except that I was happy. Then in May of 1940 all hell broke loose. All of a sudden planes were overhead, just full of planes overhead. That's when we decided to evacuate to France with several members of the family. 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It went very slowly because as soon as we heard a plane, the train stopped and we had to get off the train. [We had to] either hide underneath the train or in the bushes if that was available and return ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back on the cars, on those trains, after the planes--I assume they were German planes--left. It took us almost eight days to get from Antwerp to a place called Camp [Château de] Frémont. Why there, I don't know. That was a detention center, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some kind of a camp.\n\nJohn: Do you remember anything about what your parents were telling you as to what was going on? \n\nLucy: No, really not. I just remember being scared. I remember looking back, the city of Mons [Belgium] was burning when we left. It was just a terrifying\nexperience. I don't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"even remember how we got to eat or where. We must have gotten food from somewhere. Anyway, we wound up in this camp--it was held by the French--that was surrounded with barbed wires. I vividly remember that the men and the women were separated. 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I didn't understand what was going on . . . it was just scary.  \n\nJohn: What language did you speak at that time? \n\nLucy: At that time, because of the family we spoke Flemish, we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"spoke Yiddish, and we spoke German among the family at that time. It wasn't until we hit France that we learned French. One day, for no reason given, the gates were opened up and everybody started walking out. We walked to a small ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"village called Vicq . . . V-i-c-q . . . in the Department of Allier where the Vichy government was ruling. It was a tiny, tiny little town. They gave us a house. As a matter of fact, they gave us two houses to live in in the middle of the town. The town, which was the length of this street over here. [points to indicate the street outside her house] We stayed there . . . I don't remember the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"length of time, but it was okay. The villagers were very accepting. They helped us out quite a bit. Then the French capitulated and so they were afraid to have Jews in the town. Right away they took the men--all ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the men of the family--and they picked them up and they took them to Correze [French: Corrèze] . . . to a camp called Groupe de travailleurs étrangers [French: foreign workers group], which translates as \"foreign workers.\" They were sent there. That was the last we saw of all the men in the family.\n\nJohn: Were all the people originally on the train Jews or a mix of everybody? \n\nLucy:[They] must have been. I really don't know. I would assume so. 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That's where we hid. We survived ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there because we grew potatoes. There was . . . we had a couple of chickens the farmers had given us, so we had eggs. Where we got the rest, I really don't know. We did . . . my cousin, Regina and I, would run into the city and the baker of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"town would give us one of those . . . French bread is in a round loaf and you put your arm around it, and she and I would put an arm [around] that loaf of bread and run back quick. We did get some help from some of the farmers around us. One of the main things I remember was: there was an apple tree. That apple tree was like manna from heaven, believe me. We would wait every morning, get up, and see whether an ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"apple fell down so we could split it up between all of us. It was just . . . it was the most delicious thing that we had at the time. I remember--I mean crazy--when you grow potatoes, you had these bugs that eat the leaves, called the doryphore [potato bug] in French. 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The object was to separate the\nparents from the kids. The parents had--with their passports and their accents\nand not knowing French--they had no chance, so they went into hiding. One\nmorning, still at La Gare, the train station, a young man dressed as a Boy Scout ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"came and picked us five kids up. Betty was already gone. He said, \"We're going camping.\" We went all the way to Grenoble [France], but I can't . . . Grenoble is quite a distance from Vicq. I certainly don't remember taking a train, because trains were so dangerous. 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How they\nmanaged, from my own personal experience, to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pick up a child from one place and keep track of them. Can you imagine all these children? They kept track of them [and] where they were--and moved them when it became dangerous. It is unbelievable.  \n\nJohn: When did you get picked up and moved from that place? 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I was moved into a house, which consisted of one room downstairs, which was the living room, the dining room, the kitchen, and the bedroom of the lady that lived there, two\nbabies and myself. Upstairs, she had a son and his wife that lived [with her].\nHe was part of the French ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Underground. Before this is over, that wife turned\nhim in and he was executed by the Germans. Why she didn't report me, I don't know. This lady . . . took care of babies as a means of support but she was an old lady. She couldn't do it by herself, so I was the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=1920.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"caregiver of those two babies. It's not . . . I had to go run water off a creek. This house didn't\nhave running water or any modern facilities. There was a school across the\nstreet, but I couldn't go because she needed me to take care of the children and everything else that needed to be taken care of. 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Why did she take the risk? Nobody can imagine what the risk was to do this. Why did even the convent do this? Why did any of these people take such a risk? You could barely survive. I don't know whether ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"even I could do this. You have such chaos around you, you barely have enough, you're rationed with food, [why] would you take a stranger into your house and hide them? You really risk your life. I don't say that . . . lightly. All it took is one person having a suspicion and the whole family's gone. 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I think the worst part of there was that it was so cold all the time. We\nused to try to find a mattress that wasn't being used and we would sleep between two mattresses to keep warm. It was also there that I got a case of bad impetigo and I was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"covered with sores. There was no medication, so I was isolated for a period of time, until it got better. That was 1945. Also, my\nsister rejoined me there. After the war, we found where my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sister was living\nand she . . . the OSE brought her to me in Saint Paul, La Chaumiere. Then in\n1945, the OSE picked me up, and returned us, returned me back to Antwerp,\nBelgium, where I had an aunt, Aunt Sabine, who . . . she had nothing, but she\ntook my sister and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I in. She did have a house, and so the whole family--all the\nwomen had survived--moved into that one house.\n\nJohn: What do you remember about when the war ended? Was there like a specific day when you got the news or what? \n\nLucy: No, because where Saint Paul was, you might as well have ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"been . . . up a mountain. There was nothing there. When I went back in 1985, [to] Aix-les-Bains [France]--which is right below it, which is a famous spa area--I wanted to know where Saint Paul is and they didn't know. [I] had to find a bus driver, maybe somebody would know where that place was. You got no news there. We just survived. At Saint Paul, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I also . . . we taught the children to say the Shema at night--I was really . . . I always felt that G-d was with me and that everything would be okay the next day--and the bentshn, and the blessings. 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If you looked down at Lake Geneva, you saw Switzerland right across in plain view. You could almost feel like you could walk over it. That ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was lit up and we were in the dark. I remember that. \n\nJohn: When you were taken back to Antwerp, did they tell you anything about what was going on, kind of update? \n\nLucy: Yes, you knew it was update, but even then you still had [questions like] . . . What are we going to do? Where are we going to eat? 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We went to a trade school. I learned how to be a\nseamstress, and how to make patterns, and how to sew. We went to a Jewish day school, the Tachkemoni. It was . . . the homes didn't even have toilets, didn't have bathrooms. I remember on Friday we would go to the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public bathhouse two blocks away to take a shower. Can you imagine this? That was after the war. That was good.\n\nJohn: Did you go back to your home at that time? \n\nLucy: Yes. No, because my parents weren't there anymore. I lived with my Aunt Sabine. She took care of me. Only the women were left. 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You lived through the generosity of other\npeople. You've missed your childhood. You don't know . . . people talk to me\nand I . . . sometimes Sam [her husband] gets together with some of his buddies and they talk about what they did as a child. [They say,] \"We did this . . . We did that . . .\" I can't contribute anything . . . no birthday parties, no\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"baking cookies with Mom, no shopping . . . unheard of. That was not part of\nyour life. I feel like I lived through the generosity of other people. 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I mean, really. You think, you go to, you're coming to Paradise, but you have to adjust to that paradise first. \n\nJohn: What did you know about America at the time? What did you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"imagine? \n\nLucy: That everything would be better. You were hoping for better. That's about it. School was hard, because English is not an easy language. It has double, every other word has a double meaning. Consequently you're afraid to say anything because \"Oh, my gosh, I said a dirty word,\" or something like that. It was hard. 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I remember that. \n\nJohn: Do you remember, were you given a choice about whether to come to America or whether to stay in Europe? \n\n Lucy: No.\n\nJohn: They just told you . . .\n\nLucy: No. I had an aunt here and it took two years for her to make papers. I\ncouldn't just automatic--the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Polish quota was closed. You're really not a\nBelgian citizen just because you were born there. You're really a Polish citizen because your parents were born in Poland. To become a Belgian citizen, you needed money, which we didn't have, so I came on a stateless visa. 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That's why we came here. I had no other choice. \n\nJohn: Which aunt? \n\nLucy: That was Aunt Esther. \n\nJohn: Don't remember the last name? \n\nRuth: Rose? \n\nLucy: Yes, that was the Rose family. \n\nJohn: Was that Atlanta or New York? \n\nLucy: Atlanta. I came . . .\n\nJohn: How long did you stay in New York? \n\nLucy: Just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to be picked up and come here. I've always been here. \n\nJohn: Oh, okay. \n\nLucy: But you know what the hardest part . . . what the most unbelievable . . . I mean, it may sound trivial . . . I went to school. 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It was all so strange and different, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but I am so grateful to be here.\n\nJohn: How did you meet \"Mr. Wonderful?\" How did you meet your husband? \n\nLucy: At work. We worked in the same place. That was glorious. My sister lived with us for several years until she ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"married. I had three sons. My first son--my youngest--my first passed away when he was eighteen months old. Then we had Joe. His name was Bennett [the first son]. Then we had Joe, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who lives in Raleigh, North Carolina. We have two grandsons with him. Then we had Dan. Dan passed away nine years ago. That's him right there. [indicates a picture off camera] That's it.  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJohn: Do you remember raising your kids in any particular way because of your past, like how that might have affected it? \n\nLucy: Yes. 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It teaches you values. It teaches you what life is all about. To me, it's always been very, very important. We keep a kosher home. We belong to Congregation Beth Jacob. We've been a member there since the beginning. As a matter of fact, my claim to fame is that Rabbi Feldman, we were the first couple [Rabbi] Emanuel ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=3750.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Feldman married there. We've been a member since . . . very active there.\n\nJohn: How does the Holocaust fit into the whole Jewish scheme for you? 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I just have to have faith that HaShem [G-d] is the master and that's the way it is.  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJohn: After the war, when all the information really came out--people probably\ndidn't know quite as much in the middle of the war but afterwards--what was that like for you to know how close it was to you? \n\nLucy: I've always felt that otherwise . . . 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It was all so ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":". . . [snaps fingers to indicate quick] Coincidence? I don't know .\n. . \n\nJohn: There's the standard question about survivors, which is: why do you suppose you managed to get through it? ?hat does that mean to you that you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did? \n\nLucy: Why I did? Only G-d knows. I'm grateful. I can't say . . . a lot of\npeople have said, \"I feel guilty that I survived [when] others didn't.\" There's\nnothing to feel guilty about. 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It's just the way it happened.  \n\nJohn: When society started to really focus on this--probably twenty, twenty-five years ago, it came out of the shadows--what was that like for you that all of a sudden it's out there in the public, after thirty years of pretty much silence? \n\nLucy: I had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=3960.0,3990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"focused so much on my family and on everything that was going on in my own life, that I was more preoccupied with how am I going to deal with tomorrow. I'm more of a tomorrow person than a yesterday. I couldn't change yesterday. What is the use of dwelling on it? It serves no purpose to talk ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=3990.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about it and rehash it. Yes, you tell the story once, but to sit on it . . .\nyou just . . . mentally that's not healthy.\n\nJohn: What's your opinion on the Jewish emphasis on remembering, and\ncommemorations, and all of that? \n\nLucy: It's very important. It's very important and I wish I could do it. I wish\nI could do it because ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4020.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I belong to the child survivor group here at the [Jewish]\nFederation [of Greater Atlanta]. There's a group--about a dozen of us--we meet once a month. 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I took the job very seriously. I don't know . . .\nintuition because you had life experiences, you know how to handle things\nbetter. What do you say when such and such happens? I don't know. \n\nJohn: As this whole ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4170.0,4200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"generation slowly fades away--not to be morbid--as that part of history kind of fades and somebody's going to be watching this in a museum after a while, what . . .\n\nLucy: It's going to be hard to believe because this generation of kids--and I'm\ntalking about my son's children--that whole generation of the past 15 years, I\nthink they're spoiled. They're ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4200.0,4230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"spoiled, not because they're not . . . because\nthey're loved. They're spoiled because--and it's not their fault--they don't\nknow from wanting or needing. They don't know the difference. Whatever they want, you give them. And why wouldn't you? You can afford it and it's there. So you learn, as a child, that you can't get everything and that you have to work or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4230.0,4260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"struggle to get what you need. There is a lesson to be learned . . . even if your parents, people that have gone through the [Great] Depression. My husband, who went through the Depression, he is very conservative, too. The value of money; you don't spend if you don't have it. You don't buy everything you want to buy. There is such a thing as excess. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4260.0,4290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJohn: What would you hope the Jewish world learns from what happened? \n\nLucy: That we need to stick together. Jews need to take care of each other. We are all in this together. We've got to take care of each other. That's what\nwe've always done through history. Otherwise you wouldn't have Federations ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4290.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and HIAS's [Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society] and all these organizations that take care of one facet or another of a person's life or emergencies. \n\nJohn: Could you say anything about what it was like to go back to Europe? [Was it in] 1985 or something? \n\nLucy:1985.  \n\nJohn: Was that the first time in forty years you had been back? \n\nLucy: Yes . . . my son and daughter-in-law. That's a story on its own. That is\nreally an incredible ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4320.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"story. My son [Joe] and daughter-in-law [Denise] wanted to go back and see where I was, and that's where we took the journey back from the beginning on, from Antwerp all the way back, to all the homes that I was in. The first place we stopped was at Vicq, that small little village, talking\nabout forty years later. Remember, forty years later. We get out of the car,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4350.0,4380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I said, \"Joe, that's the village. You see this street? That's it.\" It was\ntwelve o'clock and there's nobody there [on the street]. I said, \"Well, I'll\nshow you where the school is and you'll get an idea, and then we'll drive to La\nGare, way out there and you'll get an idea.\" But, we were at the car for two\nminutes and a man comes out of the house. He comes up to me, and he tells to me in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4380.0,4410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"French, \"Je sais qui vous êtes. I know who you are.\" I said, \"I don't think so.\" He says, \"Yes, I remember you. I have a picture of you in my house,\" and he did. He was the man that lived there 40 years before. We lived next door to his house. 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I'll show you the school.\" We walked back from the school and there's a car in front of that house. The woman came to visit that day. This whole thing was like the twilight zone. This woman came to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4440.0,4470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"visit there and we went into the house, and the wallpaper was the same. The only difference was that she had a new stove. You could see the difference, but the house was the same. So we got the tour of the house. Now, isn't that a coincidence? Next stop was La Sone, where I lived with that lady. 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I said, \"Well, I don't know what to tell you. Let me go inside.\" Because this was a little bit bigger of a town, I said, \"Let me go inside and find ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4530.0,4560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out where the school is. If I know where the school is, I'll know where the house is.\" As we were standing, this woman comes from way up the street. Woman comes from way up the street, and she stands in front of me, and she says, \"Êtes vous Madame Carson?\" [French: Are you Mrs. Carson?] Joe goes, \"Did I hear what she said? Did you hear what she said?\" I said, \"Yes.\" Anyway, why did that woman come out that specific ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4560.0,4590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"day? How did she know my name? She had written. She had sent me the map. I never\ntold her when I was coming. She's the one who took me on the tour to where I lived and told me about the son's wife who turned him in and all the events\nsurrounding. [She] told me that there were other ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4590.0,4620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish children living in that\nvillage and told me more about the history of the town.\n\nRuth: Do you know why people helped the Jews from that particular town?  \n\nLucy: This is the question that I've asked. There isn't . . . I don't know. That\ntown was separated by a bridge. I remember going towards that bridge--you could see Germans walking up and down. It was . . . they were there. It's a risk. It's an ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4620.0,4650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"unbelievable risk that they took. \n\nRuth: So many survivors with whom we've spoken have a view of humanity that's very darkly colored by their experience of only kind of meeting the sort of evil forces out there. You were one of the few that was taken in by strangers in a certain kind of way, or at least not ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4650.0,4680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"protected in some kind of way. Do you have a more maybe balanced view of what people are, what they're made of, what we're capable of? \n\nLucy: What the Germans did is evil in the worst . . . this is unbelievable. I\nhave documents where the Germans have the name and the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4680.0,4710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"date and the time--the time!--of when their transport left Drancy to go to Auschwitz-Birkenau. Talk about meticulous records of when you're sending somebody to their death! [It] is unbelievable. Yes, you could be bitter. 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I quoted you, of something you said,\" or, \"If you could have gone through all these things, then I can manage to do this. That's not such a hardship.\" Yes, it's had an influence on him. He's quite a guy, my son. \n\nJohn: Is there anything else you'd want to mention that we've left out? \n\nLucy: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4800.0,4830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I could tell you some more stories. \n\n Ruth: Please.\n\nJohn: Sure. \n\nLucy: The Chateau des Morelles that we were in, where the rabbis lived, and you asked me how did I know. We went to there too. It was gated, completely\ngated. The grass was this tall. [indicates with her hand the grass was head\nhigh] It looked like [it was] completely abandoned. There was a gate that was\npartly ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4830.0,4860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"open. I told Joe, I said, \"Please, sneak in there. Take a picture of the\nhouse\" and then . . . so I'd have something that I was here. As he got closer,\nhe heard voices. Do you know that the lady that was there forty years ago, that cooked for us was there? She told me the story of what happened with the rabbis and the kids. This ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4860.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whole trip was . . . I felt like G-d was with me. [It was] an incredible journey. It was just one coincidence after another. \n\nRuth: Have you gone to any of the reunions of the OSE children? \n\nLucy: Just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4890.0,4920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one. Why, I don't know. Just . . . We went to one in Washington,\nD.C. They're having one in Israel this year. Next year. Yes, this year. \n\nRuth: Any other memories from your trip or from . . .\n\nLucy: I think I've talked enough. \n\nRuth: Oh, [you are] just getting started. Can I ask you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4920.0,4950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just another question\nabout when you came to Atlanta? You came here and I happen to know that you have this large family, both of, both of Rosenbluths and Rosenbliths who had come earlier and then your aunts and your cousins . . .\n\nLucy: I was really here first. \n\nRuth:. . . and your grandfather? \n\nLucy: No, I came here. He's really not my grandfather. \n\nRuth: He's not your grandfather? \n\nLucy: Not my grandfather and my aunts are really not that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4950.0,4980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"close. It's kind of a\nmishmash with the family. I feel very close to them because we grew up together. I was . . . I lived with them after the war [and] during the war I was with them. But Grandpa, David Rose [Rosenbluth], was really . . . my father's father was his brother, so even Regina is not . . . but third cousin, fourth cousin, I don't know. It doesn't matter. We're ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=4980.0,5010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"close.  \n\nRuth: Did you ever feel like you were on the outskirts of that family because\nRegina and their parents survived and you were the one who had a very different experience? You came out of the war in a different place, I guess I would say.\n\nLucy: Yes, they all, everybody had their mother live. My two nephews [second\ncousins], Herbie and Fred, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=5010.0,5040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and Regina and Susie, and Sabina's daughter [had their mothers survive]. It's frightening to be by yourself. I think I was so\ngrateful that somebody wanted to, could take care of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=5040.0,5070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me. \n\nRuth: Did you feel responsible for Betty? \n\n Lucy: Yes.\n\nRuth: How did she react to kind of finding out about all this after she got old\nenough to understand? She was so young. \n\nLucy: Betty is very different. [She] has a different personality than I. Betty\ndoesn't want to talk about it. We just never talk about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=5070.0,5100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it. \n\nRuth: When you came here, who took care of the two of you? \n\nLucy: An aunt.\n\nRuth: That was Esther? \n\n Lucy: Yes. \n\nRuth: That was . . . I can't remember what his name was, Charlie? \n\nLucy: Charles Rose. No, Charles Rose was . . . let's not even go there. It's too confusing.\n\n Ruth: Okay.\n\nLucy: Because it's family and it's not family. It's really . . . it's more of a\ncloseness because you were together ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=5100.0,5130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than how close you were related. \n\nJohn: We appreciate that you've been willing to go through this one more time or one last time. \n\nLucy: You were easy to talk to. \n\nJohn: Ruth was the one who was so adamant in tracking you down. \n\nRuth: The one thing that we don't have on the tape yet are the names of your\ngrandsons. If you will, give a special hello to them since this is their ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=5130.0,5160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/transcript/19165/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"doing\nwhen it all comes down to it. Please tell us their names, so we'll have it on\nthe tape. \n\nLucy: Yes. I was thinking . . . you want a picture? Can I get a picture of them? \n\nRuth: We'll put a picture on later. \n\nLucy: Okay. Jarrod and Joshua. One is seventeen and one is fourteen now. They're great. They're the greatest. \n\nRuth: Okay, thank you so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=5160.0,5190.0"}]},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Annotations [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003ePelikanstraat is a main thoroughfare in Jootsewijk, a traditionally Jewish neighborhood not far from the Central railway station and the so-called “Diamond District” in downtown Antwerp, Belgium\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eGerman troops invaded Belgium on May 10, 1940. By the end of the month, the entire country was occupied.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eSeventeen family members including Lucy, her mother (who was about seven months pregnant), and her father left Belgium in May 1940. Lucy’s family travelled with her father’s aunt and uncle (whom Lucy refers to as her Grandfather) and their three daughters (whom Lucy calls “aunts”) with their husbands and children. Only the eight children (Lucy, six of her second cousins, and her baby sister), the three “aunts,” and Lucy’s great uncle survived.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eChateau de Fremont is an estate outside of Vallon-en-Sully, in central France. It is about 590 kilometers southwest of Antwerp and about 280 kilometers southeast of Paris. In May 1940, it became an internment camp for the influx of foreign Jews that had come to the area. By June, approximately 480 people were housed there. The family was imprisoned there for two months until August 1940.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFlemish refers to the region, culture, and people of western Belgium rather than a language or dialect, although there are some slight differences from the French language in pronunciation, lexicon, and expressions.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eYiddish is the common historical language of Ashkenazi Jews from Central and Eastern Europe. It is heavily Germanic based but uses the Hebrew alphabet. The language was spoken or understood as a common tongue for many European Jews up until the middle of the twentieth century.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eVicq is a village in central France, in an area that fell under the control of the Vichy government, known officially as the French State (État français). After the Germans invaded France in May 1940, an armistice signed in June divided France into two zones: the northern and western parts of the country were under German military occupation and the southern part of the country was left under French sovereignty (the Vichy government). Under German auspices, the Vichy regime nominally controlled all of France, even after the Germans broadened their occupation to include the southern areas, in November 1942. Although it was officially neutral, Vichy France collaborated closely with Germany. The Vichy government was complicit with German racial policies, aiding and cooperating with the detainment and deportation of Jews from both occupied and unoccupied France.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eIn the summer and fall of 1940, Vichy administrators promulgated antisemitic legislation that particularly affected foreign Jews. French authorities interned thousands of Jews in detention camps under deplorable conditions, where at least 3,000 died during the war. Lucy’s father, two of his cousins’ husbands, and one of his nephews were arrested in June 1941. They spent the next year at a camp near Soudeilles, a small town in the administrative department of Correze [French: Corrèze] in southwestern France. During that time, Berl worked as an agricultural worker in a nearby town called Floressas. Throughout the summer of 1942, German officials and French police to conduct round-ups of Jews in both the occupied and unoccupied zones of France. In August 1942, the men were all transferred to Drancy and then deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau. Only Lucy’s second cousin, Wilhelm (Willy) Rosenbluth survived the war.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eIn the Hebrew Bible, manna is described as an edible substance that G-d provided for the Israelites during their travels in the desert.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eLucy is referring to The Assumption of the Virgin Mary into Heaven rather than the Immaculate Conception. Celebrated every year on August 15, the Feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary commemorates the death of Mary and her bodily assumption into Heaven. It is one of six Holy Days of Obligation, when Catholics are obliged to participate in Mass. The Feast of the Immaculate Conception is also one of the Holy Days of Obligation and is celebrated on December 8.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=750.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eIn September 1942, the Vichy government had expelled all foreign Jews from the Allier department. The women and children at La Gare had been served an eviction notice and it was clearly becoming to dangerous to remain in the area. Although technically it remained under Vichy regime, by that November, the Germans broadened their occupation to include even the southern areas of France.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eAfter the German invasion of France, efforts were made by various groups to hide Jewish children. Wherever possible, efforts were made to send them on to safety in other countries such as Switzerland and the United States. One of the most active organizations in this effort was Oeuvre de Secours aux Enfants [French: Children’s Relief Work, or OSE], a French Jewish humanitarian organization that saved hundreds of refugee children during World War II. OSE is a worldwide Jewish organization for health care and children's welfare. It was founded in Russia in 1912 and transferred to France in 1933. OSE gave assistance to children and adults in as many as fifteen towns and the internment camps in southern France. After the German movement into southern France, OSE went underground but continued to hide children and transfer them to Switzerland when that was possible. Overall, it was possible for OSE to rescue more than 5,000 children. 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Other sources suggest Beatrice was then transferred to a home in Châtillon-sur-Indre, a small town in central France, where she stayed for the rest of the war.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Drancy internment camp was an assembly and detention camp for confining Jews who were later deported to the extermination camps during the German military administration of Occupied France. It was located in a northeastern suburb of Paris. Between June 1942 and July 1944, 67,400 French, Polish and German Jews were deported from the camp in 64 rail transports. 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It is approximately 270 kilometers (168 miles) southeast of Vicq, France.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eA group of nuns that belonged to the order of Our Lady of Saint Sion came to Grenoble in September 1940. The nuns had been evacuated from Strasbourg, where they were teachers. In Grenoble, they rented several apartments and opened a boarding school, which enabled them to hide several Jewish children. Two brothers who had converted from Judaism founded the order in France in the mid-nineteenth century “to witness in the Church and in the world that God continues to be faithful in love for the Jewish people and to hasten the fulfillment of the promises concerning the Jews and the Gentiles.”\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eBrout-Vernet [French: Broût-Vernet] is a small town in the Allier department in central France. It is around 17 kilometers (11 miles) northeast of Vicq, France. Château des Morelles is a nineteenth century home built near Brout-Vernet. Rabbi Zalman Schneerson was the head of the Paris de l'Association des Israélites Pratiquants [French: the Paris Association of Jewish Practitioners, or AIP]. In cooperation with the Oeuvre de Secours aux Enfants (OSE), he had opened Château des Morelles as a home for Jewish children. During the war, it housed 340 children—as many as 100 at once. The children slept in at least four dormitories—two for the girls and two for the boys. One report calculates that some 340 children stayed at the castle between 1939 and 1944. On November 2, 1943, the steward was arrested and, along with his two young children, deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau. The staff then decided to disperse and hide the rest of the children. Most survived the war. 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They worked with other underground organizations and the local populace to assist the escape of downed airmen, Jews, and others pursued by the Vichy and German authorities.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/29527/file/97313/annotation_set/138/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eLa Sone [French: La Sône] is a small village located in southeast France. 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I especially remember my father playing with me. As far as: did I go to school [and] what I did . . . really, it’s always puzzled me why I wouldn’t remember happy times. 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