{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/707wm14848/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Feldman, Rabbi Emanuel"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1991-06-27 (creation)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source"]},"value":{"en":["Esther and Herbert Taylor Oral History Collection","Ida Pearle and Joseph Cuba Archives for Southern Jewish History","William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eRabbi Emanuel Feldman interviewed by Nat Gozansky on June 27, July 03, and July 11, 1991 in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e (general)","\u003cp\u003eEmanuel Feldman was born in 1927 to a long line of rabbis.  He was raised in Baltimore, Maryland and studied at Yeshiva Ner Yisroel, where he received his rabbinical ordination in 1952.  He earned his BA and MA degrees from Johns Hopkins University and his PhD in Religion from Emory University.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn 1952 Rabbi Feldman married Estelle Samber.  The couple moved to Atlanta, Georgia, where Rabbi Feldman assumed his position as rabbi of Congregation Beth Jacob.  At the time he assumed the pulpit, Congregation Beth Jacob was a small Orthodox congregation, with a membership of approximately forty families.  During his thirty-nine years on the pulpit, Rabbi Feldman was instrumental in the congregation’s growth to a membership of 500 families, the building of its new home in Northeast Atlanta, and the development of the Hebrew Academy of Atlanta.  He was firm in his strict adherence to Orthodox principles for his shul, and spoke out concerning issues of conversion, inter-marriage, and kashrut.  Rabbi Feldman retired from Congregation Beth Jacob in 1991, and his pulpit was assumed by his son, Rabbi Ilan Feldman.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eRabbi Emanuel Feldman’s interests include tennis, baseball, teaching, and writing.  He is the author of hundreds of articles and numerous books. He served as editor-in-chief of Tradition: The Jewish Journal of Orthodox Jewish Thought from 1988-2001.  After his retirement, Rabbi Feldman and his wife moved to Jerusalem where he remained an active spokesman for Orthodox Jewry.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28604"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Congregation Beth Jacob (corporate name)","rabbis (topical term)","Yeshiva High School (corporate name)","Orthodox Judaism (topical term)","Atlanta, Ga (geographic term)","Atlanta Jewish community (topical term)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eRabbi Emanuel Feldman interviewed by Nat Gozansky on June 27, July 03, and July 11, 1991 in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eEmanuel Feldman was born in 1927 to a long line of rabbis.  He was raised in Baltimore, Maryland and studied at Yeshiva Ner Yisroel, where he received his rabbinical ordination in 1952.  He earned his BA and MA degrees from Johns Hopkins University and his PhD in Religion from Emory University.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn 1952 Rabbi Feldman married Estelle Samber.  The couple moved to Atlanta, Georgia, where Rabbi Feldman assumed his position as rabbi of Congregation Beth Jacob.  At the time he assumed the pulpit, Congregation Beth Jacob was a small Orthodox congregation, with a membership of approximately forty families.  During his thirty-nine years on the pulpit, Rabbi Feldman was instrumental in the congregation’s growth to a membership of 500 families, the building of its new home in Northeast Atlanta, and the development of the Hebrew Academy of Atlanta.  He was firm in his strict adherence to Orthodox principles for his shul, and spoke out concerning issues of conversion, inter-marriage, and kashrut.  Rabbi Feldman retired from Congregation Beth Jacob in 1991, and his pulpit was assumed by his son, Rabbi Ilan Feldman.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eRabbi Emanuel Feldman’s interests include tennis, baseball, teaching, and writing.  He is the author of hundreds of articles and numerous books. He served as editor-in-chief of Tradition: The Jewish Journal of Orthodox Jewish Thought from 1988-2001.  After his retirement, Rabbi Feldman and his wife moved to Jerusalem where he remained an active spokesman for Orthodox Jewry.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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Rabbi Feldman, what I would like to do is start out by just asking\nyou to reach back and talk about your family's history. As far ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back as you can\nremember, grandparents, great-grandparents, immigration to the United States. If\nyou will, I will sort of sit and let you chat for a little while.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I never knew my grandparents who were from Poland. My father and\nmother came to the United States in 1927, new immigrants. I was born three or\nfour months after they arrived here in the United States. I never knew my\ngrandparents. My father came over ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as a young man and he is a rabbi. He is still\nliving. He lives in Jerusalem. He's about 90 now. He served as a rabbi in\nseveral cities in the Northeast [United States] and finally settled in Baltimore\n[Maryland] where he was rabbi for many, many years. Then he went to Israel about\n20 years ago with my mother who passed away about a year ago. I'm a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rabbi's kid,\nyou know a preacher's kid.\n\nGOZANSKY: Was he a preacher's kid?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: He was a preacher's kid too. We go back seven or eight\ngenerations of rabbis on my father's side and actually my mother's side of the\nfamily as well.\n\nGOZANSKY: Both on the fraternal and maternal side?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We have rabbinic blood in us, rabbinic genes.\n\nGOZANSKY: Poland...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Poland primarily, yes. Warsaw is where my father was born. He\nwent to yeshiva and was ordained ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Poland.\n\nGOZANSKY: Was the decision to come to this country, obviously from a timing\nstandpoint, that would have been around the emergence of World War II?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No, 1927.\n\nGOZANSKY: Nineteen twenty-seven. I'm sorry. This predates all of the...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: This is between the wars. It was 12 or 13 years before World War\nII and ten years after World War I.\n\nGOZANSKY: A lot of family ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"left back?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: A lot of family left back. During the Holocaust, my mother -- who\nhad seven sisters and a brother -- lost track of all of them. We were able to\nbring one sister over just about two weeks before World War II broke out. She\nnow lives in New York. My father lost his entire family during the destruction\nof European Jewry. My brothers and I -- I have two ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"younger brothers -- were\nraised in the various cities where my father had his pulpits. He was learning\nthe English language when he came over. I still remember as a child he used to\npractice diligently his sermons in English because he wasn't used to the\nlanguage. I was born in upstate New York. My second brother was born in\nBaltimore, Maryland. My ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"youngest brother was born in Manchester, New Hampshire.\nWe lived in different places but most of the time he was rabbi in Baltimore.\nThat's basically a bare bones outline.\n\nGOZANSKY: Let's talk a little bit about your reflections on your relationships\nwith your mother, your father, the kind of people you can recall being as a\nyoungster. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I assume since you followed in your father's footsteps, did your\nbrothers as well also?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: All my brothers, all of us are rabbis. We're not all pulpit\nrabbis but we're all rabbis.\n\nGOZANSKY: Let's talk a little bit about...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: My son is a rabbi.\n\nGOZANSKY: ...the kind of home that enabled this household, suffering with the\ntragedy of the Holocaust, to pursue ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a life of... ?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: The home was very warm, giving, and at the same time extremely\ndisciplined. I never realized when I was growing up how disciplined it was, but\nit was. We were under tight control and we never knew it. My father and mother\nhad the genius of being able to keep us on a short leash while we thought we\nwere on a long one. There were certain parameters beyond which we knew we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were\nnever going to go. We were never going to violate the Shabbos [Yiddish:\nSabbath]. We weren't going to movies on Saturday afternoon. We weren't playing\nball on Shabbos. I have always been very athletic, for example, and I went to a\npublic high school in Baltimore. I was asked by the football coach to come out\nfor the team -- which was a tremendous honor to be asked by the coach -- because\nhe saw me playing around the school. I couldn't come out for the team because\nthey played only Friday night -- Shabbos. I remember telling him, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Mr.\nLawrence...\" Harry Lawrence, \"... can't do it.\" \"Why not?\" \"Religious reasons.\"\nHe says, \"I'm proud of you. That's much more important than football.\" I'll\nalways remember that.\n\nGOZANSKY: That's extraordinary.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Extraordinary, yes. That's why he was probably the most\nsuccessful high school coach in history in America. They won 60 or 70 straight\ngames. But that's beside the point. At any rate, the home was very warm, open.\nOther kids growing up knew we were rabbi's sons. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We also didn't have the normal\nadolescence rebellion of any serious sort against Judaism, or against religion,\nor against parents. As I told you, I went to a public high school.\n\nGOZANSKY: Do you have a theory why you didn't go through that rebellious...?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I don't know, I think we had very good models as parents. My\nfather was not, and is not a phony. He was not telling us to do anything that he\nwasn't doing.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: He wasn't playing golf Saturday afternoon...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: ...and telling you to go to shul [Yiddish: synagogue]. Or he\nwasn't watching -- there was no TV, but he wasn't, metaphorically speaking,\nwatching -- TV at night while telling you to go study. He was studying. He\nalways was a student. Unspoken modeling that we had. Many of my early years,\nfive or six of my early informative years, pre-bar mitzvah, were in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Manchester,\nNew Hampshire, where there were no observant Jews. There were maybe 100 Jewish\nfamilies and my father and mother were the only observant Jews in the town. He\nwas rabbi of a little shul up there. Nevertheless, we did alright. I went to\npublic school. I was the baby Jesus in the annual Christmas play until my father\nfound out.\n\nGOZANSKY: That's before you had the beard?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Somewhat before. The teacher said I was the only one who looked\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"semitic enough to be the Baby Jesus. At any rate, that's the personal thing. I\nhave only good memories of growing up with my parents. Very warm, people of\nintegrity, honest, very intelligent. My mother used to write poetry. She used to\nwrite plays. She was a linguist, Hebraic and Yiddish. 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It's classic.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He's an extraordinary scholar, he still studies.\n\nGOZANSKY: Did you and your brothers spend a lot of time studying with him?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, up in Manchester particularly. He used to study with me,\nprivately, every day after public school. In Baltimore when I went to public\nhigh school, he used to study with me. He set up a time, and now I realize how\n-- I don't know how he did it -- a busy rabbi, a pulpit rabbi, to put aside a\ncouple of hours ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"every afternoon to study with his kid. He just did that because\nit was important.\n\nGOZANSKY: Your early religious training was...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Was from the home, exclusively from the home.\n\nGOZANSKY: From your father.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: ...and mother. My mother taught me Hebrew, the language. My\nfather taught me the classic text, the Bible, the Talmud.\n\nGOZANSKY: He was your yeshiva environment?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right, he was my rebbe [Yiddish: mentor, teacher]. 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I'm still a crazy baseball fan and I still\nenjoy athletics, both participatory and looking on, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"spectator. I still play\ntennis regularly.\n\nGOZANSKY: This is a part of you that I assume your father and you did not share.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: He didn't mind. He also taught me how to play ball. I remember in\nthe summertime his taking us out for picnics and teaching me how to catch a\nball. No problem. He took great pride in us. Which we all felt. That was very important.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: You settle in Baltimore, and by now you're in high school. You're the\noldest of the three brothers?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, right.\n\nGOZANSKY: Much older than the other two?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Couple of years. Three or four years between each of us.\n\nGOZANSKY: Enough distance between each that you weren't treated as the same. As\nhe taught you, he couldn't be teaching the younger ones because they wouldn't be\nready. 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In\nany case, we were not grouped together by any means.\n\nGOZANSKY: You, as the oldest, are the benefactor of his exclusive teaching.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Correct.\n\nGOZANSKY: Your younger brothers, because Baltimore started to mature as a Jewish\ncommunity, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were able to be...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Correct. Exactly. It so happens, incidentally, that my second --\nmy younger brother -- went into full-time Jewish scholarship as opposed to the\npulpit rabbinate. He's been a teaching rabbi all his life and he is really an\noutstanding Talmudic scholar. He's like my father now. 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He's an outstanding scholar even though\nhis father didn't teach him exclusively.\n\nGOZANSKY: And the youngest?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: The youngest lives in Baltimore and is a principal of a yeshiva\nhigh school, of a large school which runs from elementary through high school, a\nJewish school.\n\nGOZANSKY: Is that the school that they got to go to?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No, that was not the school at the time.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=750.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: You're the pulpit rabbi of the three.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I'm the pulpit rabbi of the three.\n\nGOZANSKY: The second is the scholar of the three.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Tenacious scholar. 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Then when have you\nformulated in your ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mind that you, like so many of your forbears, want to pursue\na career of . . RABBI FELDMAN: Probably not until I was two or three years into\ncollege. I finished high school and just went on to a yeshiva, a college level\nyeshiva because that's the only way you can continue your Jewish studies, and\nsimultaneously I went to college. I went into yeshiva in Baltimore, Ner Yisroel\nfrom which I was ultimately ordained. 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I don't know why (unlike the Christians we\ndon't have a mysterious calling from heaven)... but in a way it was a pull ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to\nthis more than to that. I guess it was a calling if you want to say that.\n\nGOZANSKY: But you obviously always enjoyed studying.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, always, eternal student.\n\nGOZANSKY: Your peers -- your friends -- were at that point, I assume, going down\ndifferent paths. As your high school friends were going on to college, you were,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by your description, college was somewhat supplemental rather than primary.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, but college was tough. I studied hard in college too, even\nthough it was supplemental because it was Johns Hopkins. It was tough, high standards.\n\nGOZANSKY: A part of you was going to meet whatever those standards were.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, and I enjoyed English. I majored in English simply because I\nenjoyed reading and writing. 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It could be that\nin law school ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you get to think, I'm not sure.\n\nGOZANSKY: Sometimes. On a good day.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I'll tell you this story. I was teaching this course at Emory\n[University]... History and Methods of Jewish Law. I really prepared what I\nthought was a wonderful syllabus for this course, February to May. One of the\nthings I wanted to introduce to the students, most of whom were Jewish -- there\nwere 25 students in that class, 23 were Jewish -- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wanted to introduce them to\nthe Talmudic method of logic which is a little different from Greek logic. So I\ngave them the whole background and by the time we got to the Talmud we were in\nabout the sixth week of the course. One day I came in with a translated Talmudic\ntext and I was going to give them a feel of what it is, what is Talmudic\ndialogue all about. I gave them something in a classic text. Outlined it and the\nargumentation that went on, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the new theories, and this and that. We spent\nthe whole two-hour session on Talmud. We argued, which is the way you do in a\nstudy hall in yeshiva when you study. You argue with each other, fine points,\nour subtle points of law, and I was outlining, diagraming on the board. Fine. It\nwas a great session. Afterwards, going down the elevator, one of the students\nsaid, \"I went to a fine Ivy League school and I'm here at Emory. It's my third\nyear. 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And we were expected to\nbe there Sundays and Saturday afternoon to study.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: One problem is you can study on Shabbat [Hebrew: Sabbath].\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: That's right that's the one problem. That's all you can do on\nShabbat. To this day, I'm a compulsive reader and student. There I was going to\nschool. I enjoyed studying. The only problem I had with the rabbinate, the major\nproblem, was I had no time to study.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: Somewhere in this process, at age 20 or so, you make the career\nchoice, but you finish at Johns Hopkins and you even go on and go to graduate school.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, I get my master's degree and ordination the same month. Try\nthat sometimes.\n\nGOZANSKY: So there's an enthusiasm for learning in the general sense, as well as\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the logical sense. An insatiability that seems to be there. One could ask why a\npulpit? Why not the [Greenfield Hebrew] Academy?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I don't know. I enjoy the Academy to this day very much. That's\nprobably because I'm not in the Academy full-time. I don't know if I'd enjoy the\nstuff that goes on in academia if I had to make my living from it. But ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I enjoy\nbeing in there as a visiting professor. I've taught at Emory and I've taught at\nAgnes Scott [College -- Decatur, Georgia] and I've taught a couple of schools in\nIsrael over the years. I enjoy that very much. As to why I chose\n\n... I don't know whether there were opportunities available then really for a\nyoung man of 24 just to go into academia. There were no Judaic studies in school\nas there are today. It could be that today if I were coming out I would apply to\nan Emory Judaic Studies program because ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I enjoy that.\n\nGOZANSKY: So you go through and you know you want to be a rabbi.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: The other thing, in academia you don't really have a chance to\naffect people's lives. Do you know what I mean? In the rabbinate you have a\nchance to do something for the religion in which you believe. In academia,\nyou're an academic. You teach math. You teach this. You teach Judaism. It's a\nsubject. 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I want to\ncome and revolutionize it, which I learned you cannot right away.\n\nGOZANSKY: When do we get married?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We get married ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1350.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"four months after I get my master's and get\nordained and get the pulpit in Atlanta. The ordination and the master's come in\nMay or June of 1952. I'm asked to take this pulpit in August of 1952 -- which is\na little shul downtown, which we'll get to in our next segment -- and I get\nmarried in November of 1952. I'm engaged practically the same time I get my ordination.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: Let's talk about this woman that has been with you all these years.\nWe've got your path. Where does she enter your life and what is her background?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Her background is an Orthodox background although her parents are\nlay people. They're business people from New York. I meet her in a summer camp\nwhere I'm a lifeguard, of all things. A rabbinic student, a scholar, but enjoys\nthe outdoors. 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She's fine.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We come down here in 1952 together after we're married.\n\nGOZANSKY: You've known Estelle then throughout your college, pretty much.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, pretty much because I knew her five years before we were married.\n\nGOZANSKY: She was living in New York and you were in Baltimore?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Difficult courtship, a kosher courtship.\n\nGOZANSKY: Does she play any role in your decision to pursue the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rabbinate?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No, she does not. By the time we were engaged, I've already\nfirmly cast my decision. In the last couple of years that we were going out she\nknows. I told her that this is it.\n\nGOZANSKY: Your first pulpit brings you to Atlanta?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: The only congregation that would take a young man was here.\n\nGOZANSKY: The only congregation ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that would take a young man is in this city?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: With no experience. The only place that I could find that would\ntake a gamble with me.\n\nGOZANSKY: Let me back up a little bit. Were there pulpits while you were a\nstudent that you served?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, I went to Ashland, Kentucky one High Holy Day period. I went\nthere two or three years in a row. They loved me but I didn't want to be a rabbi\nin Ashland, Kentucky. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ten Jewish families and two shuls. I'm exaggerating. Maybe\n40 Jewish families and two synagogues, one Reform and one Orthodox. You know,\nyou need the shul that you don't go to, the old joke. It almost soured me on the\nrabbinate, those experiences, what I was going through. 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You\nlearn the ropes, the practical ropes, you do a marriage.\n\nGOZANSKY: You were doing some of that with your father?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: With my father, and as part of my rabbinic training.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: Let's come to Atlanta. Let's talk about having children. Let's talk\nabout the private time in Atlanta and then we'll come back and talk about the\ncongregation and the city. You come here in 1952. Let's bypass the professional\nfor a while and stay on the familiar. 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I had\nalready come here in August, had already rented an apartment and that was it.\n\nGOZANSKY: My understanding is the expectation of both of you was this will be\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your first pulpit but you're not coming to the south to...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Two years maximum] to learn the rabbinate. I had an opportunity\nto be assistant rabbi in Yonkers, New York to a very prominent rabbi -- whom I\ninterviewed with, and who was willing to take me on as his assistant -- and\nthis, come to Atlanta. I wanted to go to New York because that's New York. 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Even a little pulpit like 40 families.\" I\nlistened to him.\n\nGOZANSKY: Your dad was...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Instrumental in my not going to New York.\n\nGOZANSKY: ...perfectly capable of making it clear to you...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: ...he was perfectly capable of persuading when he needed to.\n\nGOZANSKY: You can make your decision about whether to be a rabbi, but once you\nmade it, he was certainly going to be helpful.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right. Very.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: You had been his assistant rabbi.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Unofficially. Just nominally. I was assisting in many ways. It\nwasn't a formal job and it was just once in a while. But I learned. Listen,\ngrowing up in the home of a rabbi is equivalent, I've always thought, to ten\nyears' experience before you take your first pulpit. Nothing like it. You don't\nget shocked by anything. Nor are you overwhelmed by the negative and the\npositive. You don't get overwhelmed when the sisterhood lady ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"says she adores\nyou. Because it's a way of speaking. Nor do you get overwhelmed by them telling\nyou that your sermon was terrific. Nor do you go crazy if they say you're no\ngood. It's wonderful being brought up in a rabbi's home if you're going to be a rabbi.\n\nGOZANSKY: Certainly you understand the pressures of helping people.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: You understand. You don't get shook up if the phone rings at four\nin the morning or one in the morning. It's normal. That's it.\n\nGOZANSKY: Your dad ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wisely advises you to just come here.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right. Which I thought was good advice in retrospect.\n\nGOZANSKY: So you come here, and when do we have children?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We have children about a year-and-a-half later, first son. We end\nup having five altogether.\n\nGOZANSKY: First son is?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: Ilan. He was born here and raised here.\n\nGOZANSKY: And the other four?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Are another two boys. Three boys altogether and two daughters.\nAll of them are married. One of them lives in Israel.\n\nGOZANSKY: The oldest is a rabbi here?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: The oldest is a rabbi here.\n\nGOZANSKY: We'll come back to him.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right. The second one is also a rabbi but...\n\nGOZANSKY: And his name is?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Jonathan. 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Every evening they have it\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1920.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with their friends and stuff.\n\nGOZANSKY: And the girls?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: The girls are each married to rabbis. Let's put it this way. One\nis married to a young man who is finishing his rabbinic training in Jerusalem.\nAmerican, but he's living over there. That's the youngest. The next to the\nyoungest child is our daughter, living in Los Angeles [California], married to a\nteaching rabbi, not a pulpit rabbi. 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Between 1953 and 1967, 1968 is when they were born.\n\nGOZANSKY: Let's talk about this household in the city of Atlanta in this period\nof the Fifties into the Sixties ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when there's a very small observant Jewish\npopulation. Is there any Jewish day school available?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Jewish day school begins about 1960. I forget when it began.\nHebrew Academy began... I was instrumental in helping found it around 1959 or\n1960. No, I'm wrong. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2010.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Jewish day school begins in 1954. Three years after I\ngot here, 1954 or 1955. I remember that my wife was pregnant and was the first\nteacher of the kindergarten in that new school.\n\nGOZANSKY: Where was that new school at that time?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: It was housed in a room in the Jewish Community Center, the old\ncenter, which was on Peachtree Street. 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He's unrealistic.\n\nGOZANSKY: There's you at ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Beth Jacob, the young Orthodox rabbi.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: There's Rabbi Harry Epstein.\n\nGOZANSKY: There's Harry Epstein at...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Ahavath Achim. There's Jacob Rothschild at the Temple. There's\nArnold Heisler at Shearith Israel. That's it. Those are the rabbis in the city\nat that time.\n\nGOZANSKY: Or VeShalom is not...?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Sorry, forgive me. Those are the Ashkenazi rabbis of the city.\nThere's a Sephardic rabbi, Rabbi Joseph Cohen, may he rest in peace. Wonderful\nman. 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Still don't have a rabbi.\n\nGOZANSKY: They're there but they're not...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: They have a minyan but they don't have... they were not really\never an active part of the Jewish community.\n\nGOZANSKY: So who is resisting ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the idea of a Jewish day school?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Not the rabbis. Rabbi Epstein was very cooperative, wants it.\nRabbi Heisler, subsequently left... very, very, right on the front lines with\nme. Who's resisting it...\n\nGOZANSKY: Of course, [Rabbi] Rothschild simply has other kinds of interests.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, he doesn't think it's important. This takes an interesting\nturn because right now the Reform movement is going to start its own day school\nwhich I think is wonderful. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Resisting it were the community leadership at large.\nThe head of the [Jewish] Federation does not think it's a good idea, although\nthe head of the Bureau of Jewish Education thinks it's a good idea and does\nhelp. But the money people in the city don't think it's a good idea.\n\nGOZANSKY: But my understanding of that generation is that the money people ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are\nby and large, if affiliated, more likely to be affiliated with the Temple, the\nReform congregation.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Or Ahavath Achim, many of them were with AA.\n\nGOZANSKY: But there wasn't a...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We were able to overcome the resistance after a year. We brought\nin some people from all congregations. We were able to overcome the resistance\nbut there was clear resistance on the part of the [Jewish] Federation [of\nGreater Atlanta].\n\nGOZANSKY: Who were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the lay leaders as best you can recall in getting the Hebrew\nAcademy started?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: There was the president of my synagogue and a couple of people.\nThere were people like...\n\nGOZANSKY: Do you remember their names?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Jack Goldberg.\n\nGOZANSKY: Jack Goldberg is?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: The president of this synagogue.\n\nGOZANSKY: Beth Jacob.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No longer living. 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I was the one who went to see Dr. Greenberg to try to convince\nhim to have a parlor meeting in his home to bring some people in, because he had\na lot of entrée.\n\nGOZANSKY: He was a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"member of...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: He was a member of Shearith Israel. He was very enthusiastic from\nthe very beginning, so we were able to make breakthroughs.\n\nGOZANSKY: The support comes from some Beth Jacob members, Shearith Israel\nmembers, AA members.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: And the head of the [Atlanta] Bureau of Jewish Education.\n\nGOZANSKY: The Sephardic community?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Not heavily. They're a small community.\n\nGOZANSKY: They're a small community and at the time ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a bit isolated?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Certainly Rabbi Cohen was helpful, but not too strong in the city.\n\nGOZANSKY: So you start the academy. Do your children go there?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: When they get old enough. They're only one year old at that\npoint. Ultimately they all went there.\n\nGOZANSKY: That becomes their school. Now, there've been other schools started\nsince then; the Epstein School, Torah Day School.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: Now a Reform school coming up a year from now.\n\nGOZANSKY: That appears to be a reality. While we're just talking about the day\nschools, why was the Hebrew Academy not enough?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Not enough for what?\n\nGOZANSKY: For the community.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: You mean all subsequently? 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But we feel that the Academy is not\nmeeting the needs of an Orthodox community because they ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have to appeal to\neverybody. We wanted more intensive this, and more intensive that, and more\npushing to that, and they couldn't do it for us. There was a lot of discontent.\nSo I found that we must start our own school. Which we did... called Torah Day\nSchool. It's an Orthodox school.\n\nGOZANSKY: Torah Day School is...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: An unabashedly Orthodox school.\n\nGOZANSKY: ...unabashedly Orthodox. Epstein is unabashedly Conservative.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Unabashedly Conservative, whatever that means.\n\nGOZANSKY: How does the Hebrew Academy...?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: The academy tries to spread its wings over the whole community.\nThere are many Orthodox kids that go there from this shul. Many of our kids go\nto Epstein School. Not many, some. So widespread was the attendance of our\nchildren at Beth Jacob to the Hebrew Academy that -- when I came and we had an\nafternoon Hebrew school and Sunday school of 150 kids -- after 10 or 15 years\nthere were no kids in our Sunday school Hebrew school because they all went to\nthe day school, which was self-destruct, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which was what I wanted.\n\nGOZANSKY: Let's finish the day school thing. Let's talk a little bit about...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: It was also then, of course, the Yeshiva High School begins. That\nbegan about 18 or 20 years ago. As a result, they felt the need that the\nchildren graduating from the Hebrew Academy can't just be lost to us. Which they\nwere being lost by going to public ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"high school. Not just lost in terms of their\nlearning, but lost Jewishly. The [Atlanta] Yeshiva High School started on that\nyellow couch right behind you.\n\nGOZANSKY: Yeshiva High School starts as a Beth Jacob... ?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No. Beth Jacob starts it, yes. It's an independent entity but it\nstarts from...\n\nGOZANSKY: It is the Beth Jacob community that recognizes...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: ...that pushes it.\n\nGOZANSKY: We need it. By this time have your children left the Hebrew Academy?\n\nAre you personally experiencing the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dilemma of nothing?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Absolutely. My children go out of town at the age 12 and 13. Go\nto boarding school.\n\nGOZANSKY: So your children are in Baltimore?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes.\n\nGOZANSKY: Where zeyde is, and that city is obviously sort of a generation ahead\nof this\n\ncity in terms of Jewish education opportunities. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They have their zeyde and bubbe [Yiddish:\ngrandma] there. They would be there for Shabbos. It's very good.\n\nGOZANSKY: They get...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: ...they get the benefit...\n\nGOZANSKY: ...they get the benefit of having the opportunity to be very close to\nobviously two people that you and your wife respect and adore. It's fine for\nyour children to have that exposure. Let me digress a little bit. To the extent\na parent or grandparent influences career choices, do you want to take credit\nfor your sons, or do you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"give that to zeyde who had his hands on them?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Credit for what aspect of my sons? Every aspect?\n\nGOZANSKY: Just the choice of the rabbinical training.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I did with -- and what my father did with me -- no pressure, no persuasion.\n\nGOZANSKY: We start the Yeshiva High School and the Epstein School ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"supporters\ndon't perceive a need to replicate that the way that they...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Ultimately they do make noises about that but they never\nconsummated it. There is a desire to do it, but it's tough... they don't do it.\nThey started... Epstein School did start an eighth and ninth grade I think, but\nit was kind of aborted.\n\nGOZANSKY: If you're a Torah Day School ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2730.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"student you would probably go on to\n\n Yeshiva...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Many Hebrew Academy students also [go to Yeshiva]...\n\nGOZANSKY: ...if you're Hebrew Academy, you might go to Yeshiva or you might go\ninto the public sector...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: ...the Epstein School also goes on... we get a goodly number from\nthe Epstein School as well. Almost every Torah Day School student will go into\nthat, or else go out of town. Many of the Academy kids will do it, and some of\nthe Epstein kids.\n\nGOZANSKY: More Academy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2760.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than Epstein.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, I would think so.\n\nGOZANSKY: Let's go ahead and stop.\n\nGOZANSKY: While we're talking about day schools, why don't we take a minute and\ntalk about the emerging Reform day school, which you apparently are very\nenthusiastic about. Let's talk about why you're enthusiastic about that.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2790.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: I'm happy with it even though I know they're not going to be\ntraining Orthodox Jews there, but that's not the point. I take no delight in\nbeing right and saying, \"I told you so\" because I've been saying for a\ngeneration now that without Jewish learning our kids will be lost to us. The\nsecond generation will certainly be lost to us. I've said over and over again\nthat you judge your success as a Jew by who your ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"grandchildren are, not by who\nyour children are. Who your grandchildren are going to be. Reform has been going\ndown the tube of almost total assimilation and intermarriage. I'm talking\nintermarriage not where there's a pro forma [Latin: as a matter of form] or\nquickie conversion, but without those, they know it. The leaders of the Reform\nmovement know this on the inside. They know that they had to do something. They\nwere going to be totally obliterated ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2850.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"within a generation from now because\nthey're losing their young. This to me is a way of stemming the tide of\nbloodletting that's going on in the Reform Jewish communities. These are Jewish\npeople. I don't give a damn about the labels, Reform, Conservative, Orthodox, it\ndoesn't matter. They're Jewish people and we're going to lose millions of them\nunless they do something about it. So this is to me an important trend that\nthey've seen. They've gone too far. They've reached the abyss. They've seen in\nit. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They've looked down into it. They say, \"We've got to do something.\" They've\nbit the bullet and said, ''We've got to do something Orthodox. We've got to\nstart our own system,\" which they've fought for years. It's to their credit that\nthey're doing it. I have no illusions that they're going to be Orthodox or\nwhatever. I was the first one in the city who backed it publicly from the\npulpit. Shocked my congregation. That's why I think it's good for the Jews.\nTeach Jewish kids Judaism. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Even a watered down Judaism is better than what\nthey're going to get at the public schools or [the] Westminster [school], which\nis where most of the Reform kids go.\n\nGOZANSKY: Apparently there is some reevaluation of that in light of the recent...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Recent brouhaha.\n\nGOZANSKY: ...confrontation with what was always a reality. Do you suppose that\npart of that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interest in the day school is the emergence of a number of Reform\nJews who want to move towards some level of more tradition?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: That's certainly true.\n\nGOZANSKY: There does seem to be a correlation with this...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: There's been a reaction to the far leftward movement of the\nReform group back to the right. We have a number of people in this congregation\nwho were brought up in the Reform congregations. Some of them were leading\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"members who moved over to us because they were looking for something more\nsubstantive and they found it here. So I think that that's certainly so\n\nGOZANSKY: The children, your children... two of them go off to Baltimore because\nof the lack of educational opportunities that you and your wife are comfortable\nwith. Three of them are able to stay in Atlanta ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"through high school. Is your\nwife teaching at the Hebrew Academy all this time?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No. She only taught the first year of its existence, 1954. After\nthat she doesn't teach.\n\nGOZANSKY: Who else teaches in 1954?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: They have another teacher. My wife is in charge of the Judaic\nstudies and they have another teacher in charge of the general studies. That's\nit. It is kindergarten or first grade, I forget.\n\nGOZANSKY: And then the next year they add.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: They add a grade, and then they get a principal. My wife was also\nthe first ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Judaic teacher in the Yeshiva High School years later. She helped them\nget started. She also took over the Judaic studies part of the program. Only she\ndoesn't really enjoy teaching kids, so she only does it where absolutely mandatory.\n\nGOZANSKY: So her involvement as a teacher is to be helpful to get it going?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right.\n\nGOZANSKY: That's not a career choice.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Her career is a rabbi's wife. That's her career. She has worked\nhere and there ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but primarily... she's a mother.\n\nGOZANSKY: She's got five children, and a rabbi who's getting up at four in the\nmorning to worry about this or that.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right.\n\nGOZANSKY: Where do the boys get their rabbinical training? Do they go to Baltimore?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: They all go to Baltimore. They all get their rabbinical training\nat the same yeshiva that I got mine, Ner Yisroel.\n\nGOZANSKY: Do you have a theory why they all end up at Ner Yisroel?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No. I thought it was a fine yeshiva. I think ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's a good Orthodox\nyeshiva. Always was, and it's not extreme. It's not far out right. Even though\nin Atlanta I have this reputation of being a really wild, far out,\nultra-Orthodox, that's only a reflection of Atlanta's standards in that I'm\nultra-Orthodox. But the yeshiva is a very Orthodox yeshiva. Very fine faculty.\nIt's a normal place. It's not crazy. Do you know what I mean?\n\nGOZANSKY: I'm not sure.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: There are things within Orthodoxy, as there are within Reform\nthat are far out, either far right or far left. I don't go for that\nparticularly. It's a normal place that recognizes the importance of secular\nstudies. They do a wonderful job in training the character of a student, as well\nas giving him knowledge. A fundamental part of yeshiva training is training in\nethics, living as a human being. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That they do very well there as well. Besides\nwhich, it was geographically convenient to Atlanta. That is, relatively speaking\nit's closer than any other place that we had available in New York or Chicago.\n\nGOZANSKY: That's right. I guess that would be the closest to the South you could get.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Secondly, or thirdly, their facility was very, very -- still\nremains to me -- very beautiful facilities out in the country. It's on a nice\n40-acre campus. They take wonderful care of the students. They feed them well.\nThey ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"house them well. They have very good supervision. They just run a good\ntight solid ship. They run through from high school through college.\n\nGOZANSKY: Of course, the boys were there for high school?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right. It doesn't hurt that I know the boss, the head man who\nordains me, and who cares for me very much, and I care for him, and he gives my\nkids special attention. Ultimately, my oldest son Rabbi Ilan, marries the\ndaughter ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the man who succeeds as the dean of the yeshiva. Rabbi [Yaakov\nYitzchok] Ruderman was the head man who ordained me died, and Rabbi [Shmuel\nYaakov] Weinberg takes it over, and Rabbi Weinberg's daughter is now my\ndaughter-in-law. My son is his son-in-law.\n\nGOZANSKY: So your son marries a woman who is an observant Jew who has rabbinical\nblood ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as opposed to business.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right. She's really a rabbinical girl.\n\nGOZANSKY: Now, what happens with... he graduates or gets ordained.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: He gets ordained and he stays on in a graduate program for\nmarried students there for two or three years, which they have now. They give\nthem a small stipend and they go on doing some additional work. For two or three\nyears, then Atlanta decides that they need an assistant rabbi. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We had already\nhad one who left. To my great surprise they said, \"Why don't we think maybe Ilan\nwould like to come here. I'm afraid about this. Who knows what it could mean,\nhaving a son on the job with you. But they interview him. They like him. He\ncomes down. I hold my breath. It worked out very well.\n\nGOZANSKY: This has to be very difficult.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Very difficult. It wasn't as difficult as I anticipated.\n\nGOZANSKY: For both of you.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: It was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very difficult the first couple of years, for him\nespecially. Born here, raised here. Some people remember him in diapers. He\ncomes down to be their rabbi. But fine. He did it.\n\nGOZANSKY: But he's not worked side by side with you for years because he had\ngone off to school.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right, but they knew him here. I mean he was always coming home.\n\nGOZANSKY: No, I mean between you and he.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No, we hadn't worked side by side. But he knows the rabbinate\ninside out because he was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"brought up in my home.\n\nGOZANSKY: Did you work with your children the way your father studied with...?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No, I did not.\n\nGOZANSKY: You were not able to figure out how he found the two hours every day?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Not only that, but there were always schools here. My sons\nalready had the\n\n... my kids already had the Academy. I didn't have any schools like that.\nBesides which, I probably couldn't have found the two hours. I did study with\nthem but not in that same ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3360.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"level.\n\nGOZANSKY: What happens when Ilan comes back to be your assistant? Does he come\nback expecting to stay? Ultimately to succeed you?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No, no.\n\nGOZANSKY: Or does he come back thinking this is a...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: This is his training.\n\nGOZANSKY: You came for two years?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yeah, it almost repeats itself. This is where he gets some\ntraining. He loves Atlanta anyway. He gets some training, and see what... play\nit by ear. There's no glimmer in my eye ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then of leaving, of retiring 10 years\nago. I don't know what I'm going to do in 10 or 12 years.\n\nGOZANSKY: This is ten years ago.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: [unintelligible: 11:22] came in.\n\nGOZANSKY: So at that time he comes thinking he'll be here for a couple of years\nand then go find his own pulpit?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right.\n\nGOZANSKY: Two years turns into three...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: To four, to ten. Like my two years turned into almost 40.\n\nGOZANSKY: Then you decide to retire? When do you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"make the decision?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I made the decision... we made the decision... about 18 months\nago. I informed the synagogue immediately. So they had 18 months to make the transition.\n\nGOZANSKY: Is it assumed that Ilan would succeed you?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No. It engendered some bit of discussion in the congregation as\nto how they should go about getting a successor. Some people say, \"Look, he's\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"obvious, logical choice. Go ahead and do it.\" Others say, \"We need to\ninterview people around the country.\" This is a nice Orthodox pulpit now. It's a\ndesirable pulpit. They had a big discussion within the congregation and the\nboard of directors. They decide, it's just an interesting process, it's dynamic.\nThey decide, \"We're just going to interview people,\" which my son wanted ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them to\ndo and I wanted them to do... interview people. I didn't want him corning in\nunder a cloud that the rabbi's kid got it. They said, \"Alright, we'll do that\nand we'll interview him first.\" They called a big mass meeting and everybody was\ninvited to come. Hundreds of people show up. I was on sabbatical in Israel,\nwhich was very good. I was five months in Israel. Apparently he just did so very\nwell at the interview, which was a very tough ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public interview, he called it a\n'crucifixion.' He did very well that they decided that maybe it was silly to go\ninterview others if they know someone who is -- using their words -- \"this\ntalented.\" Let's not just cut off our noses. Let's just give him a crack at this\nposition. That's what happened. Then there's a vote. They bring it up to the\ncongregation ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and they voted him in. There was opposition. He won like by about\n80 votes to 20 votes, something like that.\n\nGOZANSKY: Which given the culture we're in, to get that kind of...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: You know, a presidential candidate...\n\nGOZANSKY: ...that's close a consensus as you can get. So this last year... that\nwas decided about a year ago?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: About a year ago, right.\n\nGOZANSKY: You and he have now been ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dealing with the formal transition. You're\ntrying to get him to understand that you're not around to be helpful.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes. First of all he's had three periods where I was away for\nfour months at a shot on sabbatical\n\nGOZANSKY: During the ten years?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: In the last four years. There were three four-month periods where\nI was away so he's been a rabbi alone for 12 months. Three different four-month\nperiods. He's had the feel of being by himself with no one to rely on. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3600.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My\nintention -- my wife and my intention -- is as soon as we retire, which is\nAugust 1 officially, not to be in Atlanta for the High Holy Days. Wherever -- we\nhope to be in Israel -- but if not, we're going to go somewhere else. I don't\nwant to be around. What he has to do is jump in this water and swim on his own.\nI don't want to be around. It will be easier for him and easier for me. He'll be\nfine because he's handled this ship alone [unintelligible: 15:15].\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3630.0,3660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: He and his wife have how many children?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Seven.\n\nGOZANSKY: Seven children.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: So far.\n\nGOZANSKY: So that's seven grandchildren in Atlanta. What have we got in Baltimore?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We have a couple in Baltimore, a couple in Washington, and one in\nLos Angeles [California], and two in Israel.\n\nGOZANSKY: You could spend your retirement simply going from grandchild to grandchild.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We've done our bit for Jewish population, this young couple who\ngot married in 1952.\n\nGOZANSKY: So now you have to go ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"visit all these grandchildren.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Visit everybody.\n\nGOZANSKY: But you'll stay in Atlanta, I assume, in terms of your anchor?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We're going to keep our house and we plan, with G-d's help, to\nlive in Israel six to seven months a year where I will spend most of my time\ndoing what I like best. Guess what? Studying.\n\nGOZANSKY: You'll be studying as you haven't been free to do...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: And doing writing. I do edit the Journal [Tradition Magazine].\nIt's right ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there by the way... in front of that... Tradition... that blue\nmagazine. It's a rabbinical... it's a journal of Jewish thought. I've been the\neditor for about five years. I'll still be doing that. It's a very, very good\njournal, even if I say so myself. It's at a good intellectual level. It keeps me\nbusy. All this is the magazine.\n\nGOZANSKY: Somewhere I seem to recall having read that you are, or have sat on\nthe Sanhedrin in New York City.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: Not a Sanhedrin [Hebrew: council] but I sat on a Bet Din -- which\nis a rabbinic court -- for about three or four years.\n\nGOZANSKY: But that's not something you're doing currently.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No, I'm not doing it right now. I had a three or four year stint\non that, which handled problems with Jewish law.\n\nGOZANSKY: You'll take into retirement the editorship of this.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I'll continue my own writing, which I like very much, which I\nhope I inherited from my mother. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3750.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I enjoy writing very much. I've got a lot of\nthings I want to do yet. I'll do some additional editing for pay in Israel. This\nI do for free but I'll get some work editing.\n\nGOZANSKY: Will you accept opportunities to teach?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, I definitely would. I enjoy teaching probably more than\nanything else I do. I like teaching. I will. There are opportunities to teach\nboth here and there.\n\nGOZANSKY: If you could arrange to teach one semester ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3780.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there and one semester here.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right, I would clearly do that... that would fit in well.\n\nGOZANSKY: You'd have seven grandchildren when you were here. We know where\ngrandma is going to be.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: That's for sure. We have two in Jerusalem.\n\nGOZANSKY: And your father?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Is in Jerusalem.\n\nGOZANSKY: Is in Jerusalem and in good health?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: He's almost 90.\n\nGOZANSKY: For a man of nearly 90?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: His mind is superb, which is a testimony to keeping it active.\nHe's always studying. Eyes are bad. He can hardly read because of that.\nPhysically weak, but he's 90. It's not bad.\n\nGOZANSKY: But as you go to Jerusalem soon, you'll have an opportunity to see\nhim, and to visit, and to study Talmud, and that very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3840.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"special, unique opportunity.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right. Relive my youth.\n\nGOZANSKY: That sounds exciting.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes. He's still a fine scholar.\n\nGOZANSKY: You're obviously proud of all of the children.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We are very proud of all of our children.\n\nGOZANSKY: Do the other four feel sometimes that maybe Ilan, because he's here\ntaking your pulpit...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: They may feel that. They've never articulated. They may feel\nthat. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's interaction between children on some kinds of things sometimes\nparents are not aware of. I'm sure they must think that Ilan is always here. The\nchildren are here.\n\nGOZANSKY: Do the children get together?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Not often enough.\n\nGOZANSKY: They're too far physically.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Too far apart. That's one of the prices you pay for modern\nmobility. Everyone is all over the world.\n\nGOZANSKY: Your brothers are...\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: One brother is in Jerusalem and one brother is in Baltimore.\n\nGOZANSKY: How about your wife's siblings?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: She has one brother who lives in Los Angeles who's not a rabbi.\nObservant Jew, learned Jew, who works for the United States Navy Department.\nHe's an engineer of sorts.\n\nGOZANSKY: He does whatever non-rabbis do?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3930.0,3960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: Whatever non-rabbis do. Non-holy work, some secular work.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: You do an excellent interview. You draw me out.\n\nGOZANSKY: Thank you. Let's stop now and we'll come back together again soon and\ncontinue. Thank you Rabbi.\n\nGOZANSKY: This is Nat Gozansky interviewing Rabbi Emanuel Feldman on July 3 for\nthe Jewish Oral History Project of Atlanta ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3960.0,3990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"co-sponsored by the American Jewish\nCommittee, Atlanta Jewish Federation, and The National Council of Jewish Women.\nThis is the second interview of Rabbi [Emanuel] Feldman. Rabbi, I noticed when I\nlistened to the tape from our first interview that I neglected to get your\ngrandparents' names and your parents' names. If I could just get you to give me\nthose for the record I'd appreciate it.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: My parents are Rabbi Joseph Feldman, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=3990.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who is now living in\nJerusalem. He was a rabbi in Baltimore, [Maryland] for 40 years, I think I\nmentioned last time. My mother passed away about a year-and-a-half ago and her\nname was 'Goldie' Surah [sp] Felner.\n\nGOZANSKY: Do you recall her maiden name?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Felner was her maiden name and her father was the city shochet of\nthe city of Lomza, Poland, which was about 40 or 50 miles from Warsaw. A large\nJewish community, which housed a major yeshiva, a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4020.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rabbinical seminary where my\nfather studied and where he married the shochet's daughter. To be a shochet in\nEurope... of the city... was second only to being the rabbi of the city. A very,\nvery responsible position. That was my mother's father was a shochet of the\ncity. My father's father was living in Warsaw, also a very learned, scholarly,\nrabbinic Jew.\n\nGOZANSKY: He was a rabbi also?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes.\n\nGOZANSKY: His name?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Feldman.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4050.0,4080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: His first?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: His name was Menachem, which is my first name. I'm named after my\nfather's father.\n\nGOZANSKY: But he sent his son to study in Lomza [Poland].\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: In Lomza, which had the better yeshiva than the ones in Warsaw [Poland].\n\nGOZANSKY: Did he know that he would find Mrs. Feldman?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No.\n\nGOZANSKY: That was good luck.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: That was the hand of G-d.\n\nGOZANSKY: Today let's start ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4080.0,4110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"looking at community issues. Where I'd like to start\nis with your reflections of the history of Beth Jacob. First, before you came\nhere, the shul as best you understand it. Then we'll move forward.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: The shul I think started in 1948, no one's quite sure. It\nbasically started -- down near the Georgia Baptist area which was the center of\nJewish life then -- as a minyan place. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4110.0,4140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It wasn't really a shul... active with\nsisterhood, brotherhood. It was a place where people would come in the mornings\nand have services, and in the evening. It really didn't have a rabbi. A lot of\nelderly gentlemen kind of ran the ship themselves. After a few years, they did\nget a part-time rabbi by the name of Josef Saffra, a very fine gentleman who was\ntheir rabbi for a couple of years. Then in 1952 he resigned ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4140.0,4170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to go to New York,\nand I became the rabbi in that year. We were still down on Boulevard but they\ndecided that they wanted a rabbi.\n\nGOZANSKY: You were the first full-time rabbi.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right. I had met Rabbi Saffra. It was kind of awkward for a young\nrabbi to come in. He was older than I. I was 24 and he was already 50.\n\nGOZANSKY: It seemed old then.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: It seemed old then, right. It was hard on him to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4170.0,4200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"see a young\nrabbi come in and take his position. I was still wet behind the ears. At any\nrate, the shul had about 40 members at Beth Jacob. We were in a house down on\nBoulevard near where Georgia Baptist is today.\n\nGOZANSKY: Mostly older?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Mostly older. Almost entirely older except some of the\nleadership. That is the political administrator leadership was younger... 35, 40\nyear-old type men. But ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4200.0,4230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they never dreamed of coming to synagogue to pray. They\nwere just handling this old man shul like a favor to G-d or whatever. They were\ndoing a nice job, but as far as religion affecting their lives, forget it.\nThey'd come to the... the president didn't even come on Shabbos.\n\nGOZANSKY: This was an Orthodox...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: This was an Orthodox shul but nobody was observant. Nobody under\nthe age of 70 was observant.\n\nGOZANSKY: A handful above 70 made up the minyan.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: The ones who were above 70 who were observant were not always\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4230.0,4260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"observant, but became observant after they retired. Shabbos, a lot of\nex-grocers, their stores were open, and [unintelligible mumbling: 4:55]. It was\nreally a situation where a young rabbi comes in and this is crazy. This is not\nthe Orthodox way.\n\nGOZANSKY: Was there no other Orthodox community for them?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, yes, yes, there was an Orthodox community called Shearith Israel.\n\nGOZANSKY: Shearith Israel was Orthodox?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: It was down on Washington Street, now where the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4260.0,4290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stadium is, and\nalso had a branch up on University Drive where they subsequently moved and where\nthey are now, near Highland Avenue.\n\nGOZANSKY: Shearith Israel is...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Was the Orthodox synagogue, and Rabbi [Tobias] Geffen is their rabbi?\n\nGOZANSKY: Rabbi Geffen is there. Do you have a sense of why this small group...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Different neighborhood.\n\nGOZANSKY: Just a matter of geographic convenience?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Also, you also need a shul that you don't go to. You know the old\nstory, the Jews stranded on an island.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4290.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: Do you recall who were the lay leadership at the time?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Of our synagogue? When I was engaged, the people who were\ninvolved were names like Jack Goldberg, since deceased, David Katz, deceased,\nBen Tessler, deceased, Jesse Berk who retired and went to live in Miami now, an\nelderly gentleman. You know we're talking about almost forty years ago.\n\nGOZANSKY: These were men who had emigrated from Europe to Atlanta?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4320.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: No, these were American-born people. These were the\nadministrative leadership of the shul.\n\nGOZANSKY: Atlanta-born?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Not necessarily Atlanta-born. No. They were an amalgam of people.\n\nGOZANSKY: When you come to Beth Jacob it's just a few years old. It is 40\nfamilies. It has 10, 12 regulars for Friday.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right, we have 10, 12 people ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4350.0,4380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on Saturday morning too.\n\nGOZANSKY: So that you virtually have a brand new congregation. Now let's talk\nabout the next four decades. You find this group of folks who...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I find a great deal of satisfaction in this growing -- what I\ndidn't know then, but was in fact a burgeoning -- Jewish community, and a\ngeneral community. I like the city very much. I like the people. They really\nwelcomed me with open arms. 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An honest day's\nwork for G-d in his vineyard and things will fall into place if you're patient.\"\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4440.0,4470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which I tried to keep, and first of all it fits my personality. I don't like\n\n... I'm not overly aggressive in my religious teaching. I'll give the message\nfirmly but I'm not going to give the people a hard time if they don't follow it.\nI don't think you can teach religion that way.\n\nGOZANSKY: So your perception of yourself is that this congregation led by folks\nwho are dedicated to having a congregation, but not dedicated to being active in\nit. 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Wonderful.\n\nGOZANSKY: But...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: But what happened was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4500.0,4530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gradually we were able to get into the\ncongregation people who were beginning to take what I said seriously. I began\nforming classes within the congregation. I taught classes at the Jewish\nCommunity Center, which all rabbis did. I also did and I developed a little\nfollowing that way.\n\nGOZANSKY: All the rabbis taught classes at the Jewish Community Center in those days?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, because the synagogues didn't really have adult education\nprograms. In those days, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4530.0,4560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rabbi [Jacob] Rothschild, may he rest in peace, he was\nthe Reform rabbi with whom I was quite friendly, Jacob Rothschild. His widow\n[Janice Oettinger Rothschild Blumberg] might be worthy of an interview. I'm sure\nshe's involved with it. Rabbi Harry Epstein, Rabbi [Arnold] Heisler -- who was,\nfor a couple of years, the rabbi at Shearith Israel -- and I used to teach at\nthe bureau. We were the only professional Jews in town.\n\nGOZANSKY: I see. Did you have religious education for the children ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4560.0,4590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back in the synagogues?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, every synagogue had an afternoon Hebrew school. There was no\nday school. There was no Academy. The Academy, as I mentioned last time, started\na year or two after we got here.\n\nGOZANSKY: So unaffiliated Jews could access religious education through any\nrabbi that they wanted very conveniently.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: If you were not affiliated and you wanted to send your child to\nour Hebrew school, we would ask you to join the synagogue. If you wanted to\nbecome bar mitzvah in the synagogue... 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4620.0,4650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You couldn't just walk off the street. On the other hand, we were very\ncareful to make sure that everybody got an opportunity to learn. After three or\nfour years the synagogue in which we were in, Beth Jacob on Boulevard, which was\na converted apartment house, two-story apartment building. Upstairs was a social\nhall. Downstairs we took out all the walls and we had the shul and a couple of\nlittle offices. We bought a church across the street, on the same street. A\nlarge, what we thought then, was a large church. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4650.0,4680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I passed it a couple of months\nago and I said, \"It's not so large.\" I even went into it.\n\nGOZANSKY: Where is that?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Five sixty-two Boulevard.\n\nGOZANSKY: It's at Boulevard and...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Rankin Street, I think. It's a block north of Georgia Baptist\nHospital. It's still there. It was a tremendous move for us. It cost $70,000 to\nbuild, which was a tremendous amount of money in those days... 1955.\n\nGOZANSKY: How many families were members?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: By the time we bought this ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4680.0,4710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think we had probably 100 families.\n\nGOZANSKY: So there'd been substantial growth.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Substantial growth, gradual growth.\n\nGOZANSKY: What do you attribute that to?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: People were searching for something a little different. I think\npeople were yearning for something, inchoate yearnings but yearnings.\n\nGOZANSKY: There was this young rabbi...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, that played tennis and smiled a lot. Didn't seem too harmful.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4710.0,4740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: Those who were looking for an alternative to Shearith Israel, I\nguess... ?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Or to AA, Ahavath Achim, or newcomers to the city who wanted an\nOrthodox synagogue.\n\nGOZANSKY: Were being drawn towards...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: ...towards us.\n\nGOZANSKY: Who were the lay leaders during that period?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Actually, the same group of names that I mentioned. They stayed\non. Those names that I mentioned earlier. A lot of women were quite good. There\nwas a fellow named Mr. Cyrus Polan, who is no longer living, his wife [Sylvia\nSete Polan], ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4740.0,4770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all these people were involved heavily with their wives. Bess\nTaffel and her husband, Louis Taffel. We had a tremendous group of young women\nwho were not personally observant in the slightest, whose homes were not even kosher...\n\nGOZANSKY: Oh my!\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: ...who took it upon themselves to support this orthodox synagogue\nand this [unintelligible: 13:43] rabbi. They were just passionate about this\nthing. My wife and I often discussed, late into the night, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4770.0,4800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"What is motivating\nthese people?\" They don't keep anything. Secondly, where am I failing that I\ncan't get them to keep anything. It was just a strange thing. There were people\nwho... one of the most humorous things that happened was one of our chief\nsupporters, financially and morally and every way, a layman, who was sitting at\na treif dinner eating shrimp arguing with another guy for not joining the\nOrthodox synagogue.\n\n[phone rings, interview stops, then resumes]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4800.0,4830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: What percentage, do you think, of the congregation at that early\nperiod was attempting to be observant, keep kosher, observe the Sabbath?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Tiny, tiny percentage, I could identify a young man who is my\nage. 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New York boy --\nnot that all New York boys are bright -- but he's a bright New York boy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4920.0,4950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"living\nin the South. He's a graduate lawyer and he marries this concert pianist, Betsy;\na local girl, Julliard School of Music, studied in Paris conservatory, high\nclass pianist. Really avant garde [French: experimental or unusual] couple. They\ngo to all of the theaters. My wife and I are attracted to them. They are\nattracted to us. We're totally from different worlds, except not ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4950.0,4980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"totally from\ndifferent worlds, because I also went to university. I have a master's degree by\nthen. I can converse with him. We're also athletic. We also like intellectual\nthings. We became personally friendly. He decides. I don't make any overt\novertures to him to become more observant but I see how he's moving and I'm very\ncareful about these things. I don't want to be a missionary. I don't want to be\nknown as a missionary. It will ruin me if they take me as ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=4980.0,5010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"being friendly because\nhe's trying to bring...\n\nGOZANSKY: Sure.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I'm very careful with this, although I'm not unhappy when a guy\nmoves towards Torah life. He begins moving very seriously. In a period of years\nhe starts donning his tefillin on Shabbos, I mean daily. Starts keeping the\nShabbos. His wife starts keeping the mikveh, the works, everything. He becomes\nthe first breakthrough returnee. 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They're ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5040.0,5070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"isolated by their friends, but\nthey pick up new friends. Gradually, he is a militant missionary, unlike the\nrabbi. He brings other people in. George and Betsy, I still know them to this\nday. We're still very friendly. They made aliyah to Israel. They now live in\nJerusalem as of two years ago. He's done very well. He's retired now, quite\ncomfortable personal situation. 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The Hebrew Academy would have already been started because this is\nfour or five years into your stewardship.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right.\n\nGOZANSKY: As he opens up that opportunity and others follow suit, I assume that\nthe 100 or, by then even more, families who are members of Beth Jacob, who\naren't observant, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5130.0,5160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at the same time are very comfortable with those who choose to\nbe observant. So what people like George find, is not necessarily everybody\nwants to live that same lifestyle. But while the friends over there -- the old\nfriends are now not sure they can handle the friendship -- there are people who\nare comfortable.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: There are new people coming along. There are contemporaries whom\nthey bring along. Every year two, or three, or four ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5160.0,5190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"new couples begin adding\ntraditional Judaism to their lives. It becomes like almost a network of people\nwho bring other people into the network and over again, and gradually, over a\nperiod of many years, 80 percent of our congregants today are people who have\nthis history. They're not born Orthodox. You come into this synagogue on\nShabbos, which is my pride and joy, to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5190.0,5220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"come into an Orthodox shul on Shabbos,\nwhich has separate seating between men and women, which has no phoniness about\nit, which is an authentic, classical, traditional, Jewish davening without\ngimmicks. No Boy Scout Sabbath, no Sisterhood Sabbath, no birthday Sabbath, no\ncheap, phony schtik [Yiddish: gimmick], but genuine, authentic, Yiddishkeit\n[Yiddish: Jewish character or quality]. We have 400 people every Saturday\nmorning at various levels of observance. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5220.0,5250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Most of them, at least 50 percent, are\nfully observant. Most of the congregation was not raised Orthodox. All of them\nare moving, some very slowly, some very rapidly, some too rapidly.\n\nGOZANSKY: At the time you came here there were few, if any, that had any strong\nOrthodox lifestyle. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5250.0,5280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There obviously was a preference.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Some old men, that's it.\n\nGOZANSKY: Your perception is that over the years the membership has continually\nattracted people who, by and large I assume, grew up in some kind of reasonably,\nhome where they were familiar with Jewish traditions.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: It has attracted people who had no background. No, no, it's not\ntrue. The people who have been attracted have been, by and large, people who had\nno background in their homes. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5280.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nothing. The couple that I just described had no\nbackground except, you know, three days a year, Rosh Ha-Shanah, Yom Kippur,\nthat's it. Most of the people were that way, no background, no training.\n\nGOZANSKY: When they come here, they have to learn a tremendous amount of\nprocedure about life.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right, they have to learn from scratch.\n\nGOZANSKY: How did you structure that? 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I do a lot of personal\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one-on-one contact with people. I get them to like me which I find is probably a\nkey in anyone returning to anything. If you like the person, you like the one\nwho's teaching it, you respect him. You feel he's at least sincere and perhaps\neven genuine. Maybe there's something to this, give it a shot. I know that the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5370.0,5400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"congregation liked me very much in the early years. In later years they really\nfound out who I really was. I really was an Orthodox Jew but in the early years\nthey thought I was a playboy, playing Orthodox.\n\nGOZANSKY: You couldn't play tennis and be a true Orthodox Jew.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right. Now they... look what we've got ourselves into. But at any\nrate, I retired before they really caught on to me.\n\nGOZANSKY: But they got your first born.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: They got my first born. 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That's fine ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5430.0,5460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if you do it in one year or two years, but\n40 years? Big deal. That's not such a big, big percentage. That's a few families\na year. I'm not impressed with that. If I were to be impressed with anything it\nwould be the qualitative growth. The fact that we have 400 people in shul on\nShabbos, as I said before. The fact that Saturday afternoon, where no one ever\ncomes back to shul, we have 200 people coming. The fact that the people are very\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5460.0,5490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"serious about their Yiddishkeit... and the fact that they are menschen. Do you\nknow what I mean by menschen? They're nice people, they're decent people. They\ntake the message of Judaism very seriously. We've had some cases of revolving\ndoors. Some people have come in and they find that these guys are too serious\nthey leave in a year. People who have remained have been quality people. There's\nbeen a great growth of Jewishness, authentic Jewishness on the part of the\ncongregation as a whole over the years, that's what's important.\n\nGOZANSKY: When does the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5490.0,5520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"congregation move from...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We bought this building...\n\nGOZANSKY: You bought this church. I must interrupt to ask -- showing my naiveté\n-- if an Orthodox Jewish congregation is going to turn a church into a\nsanctuary, is there anything special you've got to do?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: You've got to get all the symbols out of there, that's for sure.\nNo crucifixes allowed. No crosses, no symbols. No, there's nothing special\nyou've got to do. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5520.0,5550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You consecrate it by building an ark for the Torah scroll and\nby your first service. That's it. Any place in Judaism can be a house in\nworship, even this room, just by putting a Torah in it and davening and praying.\nThe question is the reverse, a good legal question is: \"Can a shul be sold for a\nchurch?\" That's a raging question in Halakhah... Jewish legal literature. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5550.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Are\nyou allowed to take a synagogue and turn it willfully, willingly, into a place\nwhose mode of worship is antithetical to Judaism, such as putting a Mother Mary\nin there.\n\nGOZANSKY: Much more trouble.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: That's the serious question. We won't get into that. At any rate,\nwe moved over here in 1960. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5580.0,5610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were there about three, four years. We built this\nbuilding with a miraculous campaign.\n\nGOZANSKY: You were only in the $70,000 building for three, four years?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: The church? Yes, three or four years.\n\nGOZANSKY: You had outgrown it? Or had the neighborhood demographics...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: The neighborhood was beginning to deteriorate. The demographics changed.\n\nGOZANSKY: Was that short sightedness three, four years before or...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: It probably wasn't short... we didn't know what we were doing. We\njust bought the building without thinking. But it was good because we couldn't\nhave afforded ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5610.0,5640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"without that building, to have built this one. That building\nhelped us solidify ourselves. It gave us an address. It gave us a building. We\nwere able to do a lot more things there. We had classrooms. We had... it was a\nmore attractive place in which to develop. I think it was very good that we did\nthat. Then we were able to sell the building at a huge profit that helped us buy this.\n\nGOZANSKY: It was a good investment.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: It was a good investment and it was spiritually a good\ninvestment. It was all ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5640.0,5670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"accidental. We didn't know what we were doing. The hand\nof G-d was in this. I mean I don't want to sound like a fundamentalist preacher.\nWe didn't know what we were doing. We just bought the building.\n\nGOZANSKY: You had businessmen in the congregation.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: But businessmen, they didn't know what they were doing. I can\ntell you. But we did it. We had to do it. We did it and we certainly had\noutgrown the little house.\n\nGOZANSKY: Did you outgrow the church, the second building?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We didn't really outgrow that second. That was just demographics.\n\nGOZANSKY: That was just an opportunity, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5670.0,5700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we can make some money and the demographics...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We had to move even if we didn't make money because demographics.\nPeople were then moving to the north side of town, to Johnson Road, to this side\nof town.\n\nGOZANSKY: Right, of course, you're trying to get people to be observant.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I was, for a while, walking an hour-and-a-half one way to shul in\nthose days. GOZANSKY: I hadn't even thought... where were you living?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I was living ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5700.0,5730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too far from the shul. Much too far. For a while we\nlived close to the shul, but then we moved away thinking that the shul was going\nto be built. We were delayed a couple of years, so I had moved too early. I\nwalked 90 minutes each way including some weather like this on every Shabbos.\nAlso, my congregants -- who didn't know that you don't ride on Shabbos -- would\nstop and offer me rides on Shabbos afternoon, at which time I had to graciously\ndecline ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5730.0,5760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their offers of the vehicle or whatever.\n\nGOZANSKY: In 1960 you come over here?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: After a nice campaign, we raised $250,000 which was tremendous in\nthose days for us.\n\nGOZANSKY: How many families at this point?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: By then we have a couple of hundred... 200.\n\nGOZANSKY: This is a big growth period in the late 1950's.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, big growth period. But it's a big growth period all over the city.\n\nGOZANSKY: This explains how the Hebrew Academy finally gets going.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: AA builds their new structure around that time. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5760.0,5790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Shearith\nIsrael... everybody grows.\n\nGOZANSKY: This is an explosive period in terms of Jewish community.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: All over the country Jews' synagogues are exploding.\n\nGOZANSKY: What is built here in 1960 on this property?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Seventy percent of what you see now. The main sanctuary was\nbuilt. This whole office wing was there. We added to it later, 10, 12 years\nlater, but the basic structure is here. The sanctuary, and the social hall, and\nthe classrooms.\n\nGOZANSKY: This was all built from scratch?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5790.0,5820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: From scratch from the ground up.\n\nGOZANSKY: You've got the profit from the sale on the...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We raised $250,000 over a five-year period.\n\nGOZANSKY: What did it cost in 1960?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: It cost us $250,000 to build this.\n\nGOZANSKY: Just $250,000.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Imagine today, it would be $2,500,000.\n\nGOZANSKY: At least, at this point, this is still an adequate facility.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, this was virgin territory. Nobody was living out here then.\nI mean, La Vista Road was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5820.0,5850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a narrow little road, very few houses, it was like a subdivision...\n\nGOZANSKY: You have Christmas Lane up here.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Christmas Lane and Merry Lane. We'd be changing it to 'Challah\nLane,' 'Hanukkah Avenue.' At any rate it was virgin area, and a lot of people of\nour leadership thought we were going out too far, but it was good. Also a\nnaïve, innocent move. We didn't know what to do. This piece of land was\navailable. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5850.0,5880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It looked like it would be good. We bought it and we built. That was it.\n\nGOZANSKY: Was Shearith Israel by 1960 still an Orthodox congregation?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No. By 1960 they moved into a non-Orthodox orbit, not\nConservative but not Orthodox. They'd taken on some rabbis. Shearith Israel\nfeels then, as did AA earlier, that the future of Judaism lies in a non-Orthodox\norbit. So AA goes all the way. They become Conservative, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5880.0,5910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"officially, all the way.\n\nGOZANSKY: AA had been Orthodox?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: AA had been Orthodox until 1947 or 1948. When Rabbi Epstein came\nto Atlanta, he came to an Orthodox synagogue. He moved it into the Conservative\nmovement officially.\n\nGOZANSKY: Is he ordained as a Conservative rabbi?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Orthodox rabbi.\n\nGOZANSKY: But he opted to...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: He opted to the Conservative movement.\n\nGOZANSKY: So at the time this congregation...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: He should be interviewed. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5910.0,5940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course, I'm sure he will be.\n\nGOZANSKY: ...at the time this congregation is founded AA has just shifted to Conservative.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I think so. Around that time.\n\nGOZANSKY: Shearith Israel...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Is Orthodox.\n\nGOZANSKY: Still Orthodox.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: But they shift in the mid-1950's. About 1955, 1956 they shift.\nThere's a big battle there. Maybe around 1960, I'm sorry. Around 1960 there's a\nbig battle and the battle focuses on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5940.0,5970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the traditional separating of men and women\nduring prayer, where they want to do away with that separation. There's a battle\nroyal [fight with three or more combatants that is fought until only one remains\nstanding] within their congregation. They finally bring in a rabbi who is\ndedicated in advance to not worrying about the separation.\n\nGOZANSKY: This is Rabbi who?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I think it's Rabbi [Sydney K.] Mossman. I'm not sure, but I think\nit's Rabbi Mossman. He's the first one. He's an Orthodox rabbi, but who goes\nalong with that. So they really ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=5970.0,6000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"move gradually out of the Orthodox orbit, and\nthey've really been a congregation in search of an identity since then, until\ntoday, in my view. They still don't know who they are. They never joined the\nConservative movement officially. They're not part of the Orthodox movement.\nThey're kind of in-between.\n\nGOZANSKY: By 1960 when you come over, when Beth Jacob breaks ground over here,\nit is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6000.0,6030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about to become the only Orthodox synagogue in the city.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right.\n\nGOZANSKY: And Anshi S'fard?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Anshi S'fard is kind of just a minyan. It's what we were in 1948.\n\nGOZANSKY: If I went in Anshi S'fard today, I would see Beth Jacob circa 1948?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, except they don't have the daily minyan that Beth Jacob had\ncirca 1948. But they have a Shabbos minyan.\n\nGOZANSKY: They don't have a daily minyan?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No, just Shabbos morning. Friday night and Shabbos morning. But\nyou'd see Beth Jacob there basically.\n\nGOZANSKY: For ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6030.0,6060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whatever reason, Anshi S'fard has just simply never changed.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Never changed. It's a nice little [unintelligible: 13:18].\n\nGOZANSKY: It's a little place. I'm just trying to get the community defined at\nthat time. The Sephardic congregation...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Or VeShalom. They're basically an Orthodox synagogue but they\ndon't really... they are not strictly Orthodox. By that I mean ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6060.0,6090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their services\nare Orthodox, their prayers are Orthodox, they follow all Orthodox rituals\nexcept they have men and women sitting together, which is not Sephardic. It's\nreally a break with Sephardic tradition. Sephardim are all Orthodox. They can't\nmanage it here in Atlanta, they feel. They have the old rabbi, Rabbi Joseph\nCohen, no longer living, unbelievably fine human being. I think he's originally\nfrom Turkey, from Constantinople, later known as Istanbul.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6090.0,6120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: Are you going to break into song now?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: ...is the rabbi. He's a scribe, an artist in Hebrew lettering,\ncalligraphy, and so forth. He's an unbelievably fine person. He's the one who's\ntheir rabbi and for whatever reasons they can't make it as an Orthodox... with a\nmechitza. But they're nominally Orthodox.\n\nGOZANSKY: Does Or VeShalom ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6120.0,6150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have a mikveh?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No.\n\nGOZANSKY: Beth Jacob wouldn't have had one until you came here, I assume?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: There was a city-wide mikveh that every traditional synagogue\nhelped support. It was housed in a separate place.\n\nGOZANSKY: Where was that?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: First it was downtown where the Atlanta stadium is. To this day\nwhen a guy slides into third base I'm sure there's a fountain of water. But then\nthey moved up to a house across the street ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6150.0,6180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from Shearith Israel. Now we have the\nmikveh in our building here. There are several mikvehs now in Atlanta. There's\none here and there's one out in Rabbi [Yossi] New's congregation [Congregation\nBeth Tefillah] and also Rabbi [Judah] Mintz [Congregation B'nai Torah] has one.\n\nGOZANSKY: Are those Orthodox congregations out there?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Only Rabbi New which is Lubavitch Hasidic is Orthodox. The others\nare kind of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6180.0,6210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"half-and-half.\n\nGOZANSKY: So from an Orthodox standpoint, there's two mikvehs?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No, the mikvehs are Orthodox. Mikvehs are kosher, but the\ncongregations are not, from my standpoint.\n\nGOZANSKY: I think I understand that.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: When we're through with all this, I'm going to start interviewing\nyou and find out your background and where you came from too.\n\nGOZANSKY: Fair enough, but not on tape. But now, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6210.0,6240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"over this period of time as\nthis congregation comes here and experiences this consistent, stable growth --\nand of course in some sense becomes limited by geography. That is -- at some\npoint if I want to be an observant Jew. RABBI FELDMAN: You'll have to move near\nthe neighborhood.\n\nGOZANSKY: I either have to move into this neighborhood, or what is my option in\nAtlanta come to think of it?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Well, if you want to be observant you've got to move into the\nneighborhood. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6240.0,6270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No other options. Now you have another option... if you join the\nLubavitch Hassidic, which is another neighborhood.\n\nGOZANSKY: But is the Lubavitch Hassidic philosophically in line with this congregation?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, basically.\n\nGOZANSKY: So as an observant Jew I have two choices?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: You have two choices.\n\nGOZANSKY: But I certainly couldn't live out in East Cobb [County].\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No, right. We had the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6270.0,6300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"phenomena -- we still have it -- of people\nwho are living in magnificent homes far, far, far away from us become observant\nwho move back into this neighborhood with great sacrifice to be within walking distance.\n\nGOZANSKY: I know some families that walk great distances because they don't give\nup their homes. Some friends of mine live way up by Northlake [Mall] and walk\ndown. Not on a day like today. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6300.0,6330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let's shift then and talk about the evolution of\nthe Jewish community as this Beth Jacob evolution relates to it, because\nobviously in the 1960's there was substantial growth in the Jewish community so\nthat your sister congregations also experienced growth and what have you. Let me\nstart by offering the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6330.0,6360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"suggestion that I think is implicit in what you've said.\nThis wasn't a competitive growth. That is, each congregation found that there\nwere families that wanted to affiliate there.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: There never was a sense of competition in Atlanta, which is\nunique probably in America. The rabbis were not competing with each other. I\nnever felt a sense of competition from them and they never from me. We all have\nlived well and in a friendly manner together, though ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6360.0,6390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we are at ideological\nopposite poles very often and many, some, of the rabbis do things that upset me.\nBut, we are on a personal level, very, very friendly to one another and the\ncongregants, the congregation never had a sense of competition.\n\nGOZANSKY: That's been true as you see it...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: True all the way through. I never felt anything different.\n\nGOZANSKY: There was a time, and it may predate your coming to Atlanta... 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Cemetery and\nlistens to a historian talk about the Jewish sections where one gets the sense\nthat there was a real separation between the predominantly German-Jewish\ncommunity which was affiliated with the Temple and the Eastern European Jewish\ncommunity which was thought of as more being ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6420.0,6450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at AA...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: ...and Shearith Israel.\n\nGOZANSKY: Somewhere historically, and I guess it might be around the time you\nwere coming to Atlanta that starts to dissipate, and the Jewish community starts\nto come together.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I think that's probably accurate. There were at one time three\nsocial clubs; ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6450.0,6480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Standard Club, Mayfair Club and the [Jewish] Progressive Club. It\nalmost felt that the Standard Club was really the wealthy, wealthy far-out one\nwith a golf course. We talked about it last time, I think. I'm a member of the\nStandard Club.\n\nGOZANSKY: No, we didn't talk about it.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I remember the Standard Club because the rabbis got free\nmembership. I used to play golf there when I had more time on my hands.\n\nGOZANSKY: So the Standard Club was...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Reform.\n\nGOZANSKY: ...was basically dominated by Reform but invited all of the rabbis?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: All of the rabbis. None of the rabbis did it, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6480.0,6510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but I was young and\ncrazy and I love to play golf. I used to play once a week in those days. I used\nto play with a Reform rabbi. But then there was a Mayfair Club which tried to be\nlike the Standard Club. There was the Progressive Club. None of them was kosher.\nThey all violated every law in the book -- Jewish law -- but you found more\nOrthodox Jews going to the Progressive Club or at least traditional Jews, than\nthe Reform. But ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6510.0,6540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gradually those things began to change. First of all, two of the\nclubs went into demise, totally collapsed.\n\nGOZANSKY: Progressive sold their property.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Progressive sold their property and Mayfair Club just\ndisintegrated, and Standard Club is now the only Jewish club left.\n\nGOZANSKY: Was your membership affiliated in any measurable way with any of those?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Much of my leadership in the early 1950's was part of the\nProgressive Club.\n\nGOZANSKY: I assume AA leadership was probably...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Progressive and Mayfair Club. The Temple's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6540.0,6570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were the Standard\nClub. The initiation fees and the dues went up in accordance with the distance\nfrom Judaism that you were.\n\nGOZANSKY: How about Or VeShalom?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Or VeShalom was mixed, more traditional than anybody. The Or\nVeShalom were really Orthodox, nominally different. But there was a great chasm\nearly in the mid 1940's. I guess it stopped after World War II. Before World War\nII, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6570.0,6600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the deutsche Juden... the German Jews, would not at all mix with the\nnon-German, the Russian, East European Jews. Even marriages between the two\ngroups were not that often, not that frequent. But barriers began to break down.\nThere, nevertheless, remains a barrier, ideological barriers, between the Reform\ncommunity and the Orthodox community and the Conservative community, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6600.0,6630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but we\nbridge those barriers. The joke in the rabbinical organization is the rabbis get\nalong because we never discuss religion.\n\nGOZANSKY: Let's talk about the organization of the rabbis. At the time you come\nhere there's only...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: There's only three or four rabbis.\n\nGOZANSKY: You play golf with [Rabbi] Rothschild and while the two of you are\nphilosophically apart...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We're personally friendly. 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So when I come here, he's already ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6660.0,6690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"close to 50. I'm 24... 25.\n\nGOZANSKY: [Rabbi] Rothschild...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: [Rabbi] Rothschild is in between, he's about ten years older than I.\n\nGOZANSKY: But obviously you and [Rabbi] Rothschild are leading two different\nkinds of congregations.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, absolutely.\n\nGOZANSKY: You, because of your own background, are not a young man in need of a mentor?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Not really. Correct. There's no mentor here for me anyway because\nnone of them is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6690.0,6720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Orthodox. I can't take mentoring from Harry Epstein because he\nbecame a Conservative artificially.\n\nGOZANSKY: But Or VeShalom.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Or VeShalom's congregation is not an Orthodox congregation. They\nare breaking the rules of separating. It's not consistent for me to have a\nmentor who's someone who's not consistent.\n\nGOZANSKY: Today in Atlanta there's how many rabbis?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Fifteen, 20, I don't know. I lost track. There's even a gay and\nlesbian congregation ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6720.0,6750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Congregation Bet Haverim] looking for a gay and lesbian rabbi.\n\nGOZANSKY: So the community was... do you have any idea what the number of Jewish\nfamilies were that were here in 1955?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: The number of Jewish families?\n\nGOZANSKY: Yes.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No. In 1952 they used to say that there were 15,000 to 25,000\nJews in the city then, total.\n\nGOZANSKY: Total, that's children, parents.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Now they're saying 60,000 to 70,000, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6750.0,6780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"total. They're also saying\nthere's a huge number of people in the city now who are not affiliated...\n\nGOZANSKY: Let's just backtrack a little bit. We were talking about how the older\ncongregations in this city, with the exception of Shearith Israel, have found,\nor maintained their definition for the long haul. Beth Jacob is Orthodox. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6780.0,6810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or\nVeShalom is Sephardic.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Ahavath Achim is Conservative.\n\nGOZANSKY: The Temple is Reform. Shearith Israel which has had, by comparison, a\nlot of turnover with rabbinical leadership. You were talking about how that is a\nreflection of...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Reflection of the indefiniteness, the lack of clear identity of\nwho we are on the part of the congregation over there. So the rabbi finds it\ndifficult to be a rabbi [unintelligible: 00:48] because everybody is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6810.0,6840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pulling in\ndifferent ideological directions.\n\nGOZANSKY: How about the new congregations? Are they starting with definition?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Most of them are starting with definition. There are a number of\nReform new congregations and one or two Conservative ones. They're all clearly\ndefined. They're basically not appealing to ideological needs, but to\ndemographic needs. There are people living all over their area so the\ncongregations have begun. Most of them are not... none of them is Orthodox\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6840.0,6870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"except for one. The Hasidic Lubavitch is one.\n\nGOZANSKY: The Hasidic Lubavitch one is up in Buckhead, right?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I don't know how to describe the neighborhood. It's near the\nHebrew Academy.\n\nGOZANSKY: Sandy Springs.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Sandy Springs, yes.\n\nGOZANSKY: Did they pick their location for any...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: They knew that they wanted to be a different location from here\nand they also knew they wanted a location where they had good hopes of Jewish\npeople living, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6870.0,6900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which I think is materializing slowly.\n\nGOZANSKY: So that's the next growth place for the observant Jew from a housing selection?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Nobody knows. Maybe. No one knows. The real estate agent today\ntold me that this neighborhood here around the shul is the hottest real estate\nmarket in Atlanta for Jews because of its ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6900.0,6930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"proximity of the synagogue, and people\njust like to live in this neighborhood because it's close to Emory [University].\nIt's not far from downtown. It's a very good neighborhood even though the house\nvalues are not as good as they are farther out. You never know.\n\nGOZANSKY: On the other hand, a relatively young family that wants to be\nobservant, because of real estate prices...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Probably get better value over there.\n\nGOZANSKY: But they can buy a house here.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: They can buy a house here, a smaller house.\n\nGOZANSKY: It may not be two stories and six bedrooms ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6930.0,6960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but they can live... you\ncan live and walk here. A true middle class income family can live near Beth\nJacob. In that sense that may prove to be a long term value for this sight. The\nuniversity and the downtown location are all pluses. One only wonders when the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6960.0,6990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"congregation will try to get the city to give them some different names on the\nstreet signs.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right.\n\nGOZANSKY: Let's talk a little bit about the rabbinical relationships over the\ntime. You came here... there were just a few. You obviously all got on well\npersonally. At that period of time the issues tend to be congregational issues,\nyour problems with your congregation, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=6990.0,7020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they with theirs. [Rabbi] Epstein and you\ncome together particularly for the Hebrew Academy, but otherwise there's not\nmuch interface. Now there's...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: He's 25 years older than I am.\n\nGOZANSKY: Isn't there some kind of Atlanta Rabbinical Council?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Now, yes. For the last 10 or 15 years there's been an Atlanta\nRabbinical Association, kind of an informal body. Rabbis meet monthly and\ndiscuss various issues of mutual concern.\n\nGOZANSKY: What are the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7020.0,7050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kinds of issues that come to the common table?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Maybe antisemitism manifestations. Or we all unite on the fact\nthat the Sabbath should be scrupulously observed at least in public by public\nJewish organizations. We all united, even the Reform, on having a city-wide\nkashrut (kosher) authority which is really basically manned by us here but it is\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7050.0,7080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"supported by all the rabbis. There's a uniform standard for kosher in the city,\nthere's a uniform standard for Sabbath observance. We would be very unhappy if\nIsrael Bonds ran a dinner on Friday night... which could happen. It happens in\nother cities. We encourage the hotels to have kosher facilities -- which eight\nor nine major hotels in Atlanta currently have because the business is around\nfor them to do. 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There are, in the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7140.0,7170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"last 10 or 15 years with the rise of tremendous sectarianism within the Jewish\ncommunity, major Jewish communities in America where an Orthodox rabbi will not\nsit on the same board with a Reform rabbi... rabbinic board. I don't recognize\nyou. I don't know how I would be if I were living in Baltimore, or New York, or\nDetroit [Michigan], or Chicago [Illinois], about those things. But in Atlanta, I\ndo not want to be that way. So I sit with the other rabbis.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7170.0,7200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: But you sit with the Reform rabbi who...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I happen to like the guys anyway.\n\nGOZANSKY: ...who moves his congregation, slowly, incrementally, but moves his\ncongregation more and more towards some level of tradition.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: There's no question. They all are today. They're all moving them\nin a traditional manner.\n\nGOZANSKY: One could argue ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7200.0,7230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that the Reform movement, at least in Atlanta, is all\nthe more comfortable in becoming more traditional because it has the respect or\nsupport of the...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes. Basically all of the rabbis... we trust each other. We get\nalong well. We even get social evenings together where rabbis can invite all the\nother rabbis to come to their houses for the evening.\n\nGOZANSKY: Do Reform rabbis have kosher homes?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No. It's interesting. We had a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7230.0,7260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gathering some years ago at a\nReform rabbi's home and he had it all catered kosher by a kosher caterer, on\npaper plates, to make everyone comfortable. They don't have kosher. They don't\nkeep the Sabbath.\n\nGOZANSKY: But the Conservative rabbis would keep kosher?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: By and large they keep kosher. Probably not to standards that an\nOrthodox rabbi might want, but they certainly do that. Yes, we do get along.\nIt's one of the, I think, good things about the city of Atlanta is that we are\nliving with ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7260.0,7290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"each other. We're still not that big a city where we can afford internecine.\n\nGOZANSKY: What are the divisive issues? Where do you find you simply can't go\nalong with...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: With the Reform rabbis?\n\nGOZANSKY: With the other rabbis?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: There's a number of them. First of all, I don't think a rabbi\nshould be officiating at a marriage between a Jew and a non-Jew. 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They ought to stop doing it.\nBut I don't get anywhere, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7320.0,7350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so we don't fight about it anymore.\n\nGOZANSKY: But you don't do conversions at all?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: At all.\n\nGOZANSKY: At all?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: At all.\n\nGOZANSKY: Although you'll work with somebody...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I will work with someone I'm convinced is genuine. Maybe, very\nrarely, it happens someone really wants to be Jewish. I'll work with them, and\nguide them, and ultimately lead them to a place where they can convert. I have\ndone it with four or five people over the years.\n\nGOZANSKY: But you send them off to Baltimore or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7350.0,7380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"somewhere for the final act?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: For the consummation.\n\nGOZANSKY: For some reason that doesn't make sense to me. If you've spent two,\nthree, four years working with somebody...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: There are several reasons I do this. I want to maintain a\nconsistent policy of just not doing converts so that if someone comes in and\nsays, \"You did them, why don't you do me?\" I'm not forced to say, \"They're\ngenuine and you're not.\" So I just don't do it. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7380.0,7410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People know when they come here\nthey're not going to get that easy. I'll be very nice and polite to them, but\nthey're not going to get a 'quicko' conversion. They're not going to get any. I\ntell them on the phone that I don't do converts but if you want to talk to me\nI'll be happy to talk to you.\n\nGOZANSKY: I seem to recall talking to somebody who's a member of the Temple who\nadopted a child...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Which temple? The Reform temple?\n\nGOZANSKY: 'The' Temple, Reform temple... adopted a child, an infant.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7410.0,7440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: A child is another story. I will convert a child whose mother and\nfather are both Jewish.\n\nGOZANSKY: I think this was... these were both...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: If they've adopted a child and they will raise the child as a\nJew, I'll bring the child formally into the Jewish fold according to Orthodox\npractice. [unintelligible: 11:12].\n\nGOZANSKY: The fact that they will raise that child then in a different...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: If they have a certain modicum of traditional practice, I will do\nit. If a Jewish man marries a non-Jewish woman, and has a baby, and the baby is\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7440.0,7470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"technically not Jewish because the mother isn't, I'm not going to convert that\nchild because the baby has no chance at being brought up as a Jew with a\nnon-Jewish mother, by and large.\n\nGOZANSKY: So you differ from your colleagues, all of your colleagues in the\ncity, except the other Orthodox, on issues of interfaith marriage, converts...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Basically that's probably it.\n\nGOZANSKY: And on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7470.0,7500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dietary issues?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We don't differ. They basically let me handle it. They don't\nfight with it. They support me handsomely. They support me 100 percent. All\nthese issues that I've had with the community -- some of the yellow journalism\nthat they had about me, with the bagels, and the this, and the that -- I was\nsupported by the Reform and Conservative rabbis to the hilt. There was a classic\nletter that appeared about eight, ten years ago in the [Atlanta] Jewish Times\nwhen we withdrew our ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7500.0,7530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"support from this place down here in Toco Hills that we\ncaught underhandedly doing things. We actually had detective work.\n\nGOZANSKY: The story is that you climbed into the dumpster... somebody did.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Somebody did, and we had all the evidence, and we could have put\nthe guy in jail.\n\nGOZANSKY: For the record, you're going to say you didn't personally climb in.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I didn't personally climb in for the records... but we had all\nthe evidence we needed. The guy threatened to take me to court and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7530.0,7560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all kinds of\ninnuendos in the community which were picked up by the newspaper, Jewish paper.\nAll the rabbis in the city -- Reform, Conservative, Orthodox -- wrote a letter\nsupporting my position which was a [unintelligible: 13:09, stark?] thing.\nConservative, Reform rabbis backing Manny Feldman for kashrus...\n\nGOZANSKY: But that was different because there they were...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I was representing them.\n\nGOZANSKY: That business was affirmatively doing something wrong. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7560.0,7590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They were\ntaking and substituting non-kosher chicken.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: They backed me on the bagels too, even though they weren't\n[unintelligible: 13:30].\n\nGOZANSKY: The bagels, it seems to me, raises a more intriguing... because Royal\nBagel, as I understand it -- correct me if I'm wrong -- is going about business\nas usual.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: But they're open on Shabbos.\n\nGOZANSKY: But they've always been open on Shabbos. Now you walk in one day, not\non Shabbos, and you say, new rule time.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Not true. I walk in one day and tell them two years from now\nwe're going to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7590.0,7620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"withdraw our support, our endorsement. Give them two years\nnotice. Because we're tightening up. But we give them notice.\n\nGOZANSKY: That's a situation where the decision by you, and those who share this\nresponsibility have decided we can demand...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: On a new level. The city's ready for higher standards. We don't\nwant a baker baking on Shabbos and to be called kosher by the rabbis.\n\nGOZANSKY: So this is a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7620.0,7650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reflection of your sense of maturity of the city?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: And the ability to handle it. Which I think I was right on.\n\nGOZANSKY: Ability to handle it in the context of the consumer or the businesses?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No. The city could digest -- if I could use a pun -- or stop\ndigesting food that was being baked in violation of Jewish tradition. We would\nwait around for a kosher baker ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7650.0,7680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who would keep the Shabbos because the city was\nbig enough to support a kosher baker. We now have a kosher baker in Toco [Hills,\nAtlanta]. Keeps the Shabbos. Very good. You should go buy your stuff from him.\n\nGOZANSKY: And I do.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Bernie's.\n\nGOZANSKY: And I do.\n\nGOZANSKY: My eating habits aside, we'll stop now and we'll have one more brief\nsession if we can next week. Thank you Rabbi.\n\nGOZANSKY: I am interviewing Rabbi Emanuel Feldman on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7680.0,7710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"July 11, the third and\nfinal interview for the Jewish Oral History Project of Atlanta co-sponsored by\nthe American Jewish Committee, the Atlanta Jewish Federation and National\nCouncil of Jewish Women. When we met last time, we started discussing your\nviews, or you were about to comment on the -- and I'm quoting you now -- \"huge\nnumber of unaffiliated Jews in Atlanta.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7710.0,7740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then I didn't handle the tape right. I\nwant to come back to that, because I have no record of what you were thinking\nabout as you introduced this concern or this observation. Maybe you should start\nby simply indicating whether that's a concern or an observation.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: What was the specific issue?\n\nGOZANSKY: We were talking about the Jewish community in Atlanta and how it had\ngrown over the years, and it was in a context that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7740.0,7770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we were talking a lot about\nrelationships, between Beth Jacob and the other synagogues and so forth. So it\nwas in that sort of community context.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: It's a different Beth Jacob that I'm leaving obviously, than when\nI came in. It's a different Atlanta. There were three synagogues, or four, when\nI first came in 1952. As I mentioned I think maybe on the previous...\n\nGOZANSKY: That we have.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Then when someone came into the city there were very few,\nprecious few choices for someone who wanted to go to a synagogue. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7770.0,7800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He went to\neither Reform, or Conservative, or Sephardic, or to Shearith Israel which was\nOrthodox, and ourselves which was Orthodox. [Unintelligible: 1:50] began\nbreaking away. Now you have 15 or 16, including a gay and lesbian congregation.\nPeople have all kinds of choices today. But there are many, many more Jews\ntoday. There are about 60,000... 70,000 Jews in Atlanta.\n\nGOZANSKY: Of which the majority are quote unaffiliated?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I understand that a large percentage... I don't know if it's a\nmajority -- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7800.0,7830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I saw a statistic, but it was shockingly high -- who are not members\nof anything. We're becoming like the big cities like New York, people can hide\nin the woodwork when you have a large city. In a town you can't hide.\n\nGOZANSKY: Is that a concern of you, or the Beth Jacob community, or is the issue\nof the unaffiliated their issue as you see it?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: It's definitely a concern of every Jew. An unaffiliated Jew is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7830.0,7860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a\nstep closer towards being an assimilated Jew. There's a greater chance of a Jew\nremaining Jewish, and his kids and grandchildren remaining Jewish, if he's\naffiliated with some sort of Jewish organization. We think that the greatest\nchance is to affiliate with an Orthodox synagogue. I say that with a smile but I\nreally do mean that. The records do show that Orthodox adherents have a much,\nmuch lower rate of assimilation, which is defined by ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7860.0,7890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things like intermarriage,\nJewish practice, lack of the same than others do. So it's a great concern that\nwe have people sliding off the cliff. If enough people slide off the cliff we\nwill not have a Jewish community. So you follow that to its logical... what\nhappens if you don't have a Jewish community?\n\nGOZANSKY: What does Beth Jacob institutionally, or you individually, do to try\nto encourage ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7890.0,7920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the unaffiliated Jew to come here?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: We don't do very, very much. We certainly don't do enough. At one\ntime we used to have much more of an outreach program. We used to follow up the\nWelcome Wagon lists by religion [unintelligible: 4:04 sounds like of use]. We\nused to subscribe. If a Jewish person moved into the city, pronto, we would have\npeople out there with a package from us. We had our own ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7920.0,7950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"religious welcome wagon.\nWe'd give them a pair of candles, little cheap candlesticks and stuff like that,\na little prayer book, a brochure about the synagogue. We don't do that anymore\nfor several reasons. One is lack of energy. We're so involved in a thousand\nother things. Two is because nowadays in Atlanta, those who join an Orthodox\nsynagogue are going to join an Orthodox synagogue. We don't have to go after\nthem. People coming into the city are looking for an Orthodox synagogue. If\nthey're not looking for an Orthodox synagogue, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7950.0,7980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we're not going to get them by\nknocking on their door. We're going to get them by being an intelligent place,\nan authentic place, an honest place. That's where we do get people coming in\nfrom other places. But we don't missionarize basically. Probably not enough. In\nanswer to your question, \"what are we doing to bring the unaffiliated in?\" Not enough.\n\nGOZANSKY: But you don't have any clear strategy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=7980.0,8010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what enough would be, given the\nnature of the Atlanta community.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Enough would be if we had better adult education programs all\nover the city. Just lectures without giving it titles of Orthodox, but just\ntalks, and lectures, and classes in various corners of the city. That would be\nvery important to bring people back to some semblance of yiddishkeit [Yiddish:\nJewishness] of Judaism. Right now we're basically letting them slide.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8010.0,8040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: Let's move to another place where we didn't get on tape all of your\nfeelings, because it relates to this. We started talking about interfaith\nmarriages and then somehow we lost that. I want to come back and ask you to\ncomment on interfaith marriages. Let me say that I'm going to then move from\nthat, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8040.0,8070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to talk a little bit about conversion by non-Orthodox rabbis, because I\nsuspect it will all tie in together. What you had said last week was something\nto the effect of you certainly wouldn't, and it troubled you to see a rabbi\ngoing over to Glenn Memorial and sharing with a minister the performing of an\ninterfaith marriage. Then we didn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8070.0,8100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"get the rest of it.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right. I can be very fond of the rabbi personally who does it,\nand I am, of the rabbis who do it. I am fond of them, but I'm very, very much\nagainst, philosophically their practice of doing quickie conversions which means\nyou convert somebody to paper over a problem in the family, in a month or two or\nless. Some of my colleagues will officiate at a marriage between a Jew and a\nnon-Jew on the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8100.0,8130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"promise of the non-Jew that they will, after the marriage, come\nto classes. The classes are once a month for ten months. How much can you learn\nin ten one -sessions? How much could you teach in law school? Whatever.\nGornisht! [Yiddish: nothing] But I'm obviously concerned. I think it's a\ntravesty when a rabbi officiates with a minister in a church. A marriage\ntravesty. So yes, I'm against that. Many of my colleagues do that. I do find\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8130.0,8160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"almost all the rabbis in Atlanta outside the Orthodox -- which means myself,\nRabbi New and Rabbi [S. Robert] Ichay -- do perform conversions that I could not\nrecognize, that I could not accept. In other words, if a convert from Rabbi\nAlvin Sugarman, whom I personally like, whom he has converted comes over here\nand wants to join the synagogue, I can't accept that person as a Jew or Jewess\nbecause; they haven't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8160.0,8190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"accepted Judaism, they're not practicing Judaism, they're\nnot serious. I'm not interested in that kind of a convert. It pains me to say\nit, but I have to say it.\n\nGOZANSKY: So because of your philosophical notion of the kind of commitment a\nconvert has to put forward, it follows logically that you can't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8190.0,8220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"recognize your\nnon-Orthodox colleagues' conversions, number one, and therefore, to ordain a\nmarriage between a Jew and a non-Jew is simply not part of your perception of\nprofessional responsible behavior.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: To officiate at a marriage...\n\nGOZANSKY: ...of a Jew and a non-Jew.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right. Definitely. I certainly would not do it.\n\nGOZANSKY: Have I misunderstood? If I were a member of your congregation... let\nme give you a hypothetical ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8220.0,8250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and make sure I understand. I am a member of your\ncongregation. I am born Jewish. I have elected to be observant. You know me\nwell. To your surprise and chagrin, I bring forward to be my bride [a woman] who\nis not a born Jew. You would not marry us.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Correct.\n\nGOZANSKY: You would marry us if she went through the two to five year ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8250.0,8280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"process of conversion.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: If she went through a proper conversion. I wouldn't put any time\nlimit on it. GOZANSKY: You earlier said...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: A decent one could take a year, minimum of intensive study.\nPrimarily it takes commitment too, besides the study and knowledge. Yes, if the\nprospective convert were serious and went through a serious conversion, then fine.\n\nGOZANSKY: Suppose she said to you, \"Look. I'm not going to convert, but I am\nwilling to commit to you that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8280.0,8310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I will raise the children as my husband wishes.\"\nLet's make it an easier hypothetical. It is a woman, a Jewish woman, who is a\nmember of the congregation, so there's no question that the children born of her\nare Jewish from a halakhah standpoint, am I right on that?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right.\n\nGOZANSKY: She wants to marry a gentile man. He says, ''I'm not going to\ninterfere. We can have a kosher home. It's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8310.0,8340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"okay with me. The children can be\nraised at the synagogue. Obviously I'm not going to convert and embrace Judaism,\nbut I'm certainly going to do nothing to interfere.\" What would you do in that?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: You can't. Those are words. You can't raise a child... it's not\nfair to a child to raise a child in a vacuum of \"my mother is Jewish, therefore,\ntechnically I'm Jewish. But my father's not Jewish, but my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8340.0,8370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"father is not going\nto interfere.\" The father is not Jewish. The father has nothing to contribute to\nthis home. On the contrary, what he is contributing is non-Jewish elements to\nthe upbringing of the child, which is very subtle matter. So it's a very,\nvery... the fact that he's not going to interfere means it's okay, but it means\nnothing. It's a serious problem. Obviously I could not officiate at that\nmarriage no matter what the promises are. Obviously I would fight the marriage\nif I had it in my power because ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8370.0,8400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ultimately it's a disaster for the marriage, a\ndisaster for the kid, and it's a disaster for Judaism when it's multiplied\n10,000 times.\n\nGOZANSKY: Let's shift to a totally different subject as we draw this close to\nconclusion. Aside from all of your rabbinical works over the last 40 or so\nyears, you've also found time to teach at Emory University at the Law School ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8400.0,8430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and\nI think also in the Department of Religion.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I've also taught at Agnes Scott [College: Decatur, Georgia] and\nat Bar-Ilan [University] in [Ramat Gan] Israel. I like teaching.\n\nGOZANSKY: Let's talk a little bit about the professor as opposed to the rabbi.\nWhat sort of things do you teach? Do you hope to do more of that when you\nactively retire?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I enjoy teaching, and as a matter of fact, my rabbinate is\nbasically a teaching rabbinate. When I give a sermon, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8430.0,8460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's teaching. There are\neducators who come here and listen to me week in and week out. Realize that I'm\nbasically teaching whenever I give a sermon. I have been teaching basically\nthings that I know best -- which is Judaism in various shapes and forms --\nwhenever I've been asked to do it. Yes, I do hope to teach after my retirement.\nThere are two major loves that I have other than my being a rabbi, and that is I\nlove to teach, and I also love to write. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8460.0,8490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I do edit the journal as you know and\nI'll be doing some more editing after I retire.\n\nGOZANSKY: You've authored numerous articles, three books.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: You read the bios [biographies].\n\nGOZANSKY: All focused on Judaism?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Judaic things. One was a memoir of the Six Day War which we had\nlived through, my wife, and children, and I. It was a diary of the Six Day War.\n\nGOZANSKY: You were in Israel at the time?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8490.0,8520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"RABBI FELDMAN: I was in Israel at the time.\n\nGOZANSKY: Serendipitously.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Just happened to be there on sabbatical. We chose not to leave,\nfortunately. We chose to stay and we were there during the war. It was a very\nmoving time.\n\nGOZANSKY: So that was not a scholarly effort.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No. There were two subsequent scholarly...\n\nGOZANSKY: More biographical.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: It was just a journal.\n\nGOZANSKY: Do you enjoy that sort of non-scholarly writing as much as the scholarship?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, very much.\n\nGOZANSKY: You might find yourself ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8520.0,8550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"doing a project or two that's more biographical?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes. I might find myself doing all kinds of things. I like\nwriting little columns, little essays. Anything that allows me to take a pen in\nhand, I'll do.\n\nGOZANSKY: You're supposed to take a computer on your lap.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I know that. I can't work with a computer.\n\nGOZANSKY: You've produced over 100 articles and three books with pen in hand?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: With pen in hand. Sometimes pencil.\n\nGOZANSKY: So ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8550.0,8580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when you go over to the university and you see these young scholars\nwith their computers you wonder why they haven't written six books and two\nhundred articles?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Exactly. Well said.\n\nGOZANSKY: I hope my colleagues don't listen to this tape. Thank you rabbi.\n\nGOZANSKY: We were almost done, and then as I'm leaving...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I had to open my big mouth.\n\nGOZANSKY: You had to open your big mouth about being out west, Grand Junction,\nColorado and Santa Fe [New Mexico]. I was reading while I was waiting out here,\nan ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8580.0,8610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"article about some Orthodox rabbi who came to Santa Fe in 1988 and [I] never\ngot into the article. This was when you were a student?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No, no, no. For example, this past January, and a previous two\nyears ago January, for three weeks I was asked by the Orthodox rabbi in Denver\n[Colorado] who does a lot of outreach work in little towns in the west if I\ncould take...\n\nGOZANSKY: Sort of an itinerant rabbi?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Right... if I could spend three weeks in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8610.0,8640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Grand Junction, Colorado\nwhich is on the other side of the Rockies on the border of Utah, a Jewish\ncommunity of maybe 100 families, and has a college there. The cover was that I\nwas going to be a lecturer at the college for three weeks. Every year they bring\nin a guest religious scholar, a scholar of religion of different denominations\nand faiths. They said they would be interested in having a rabbi. \"Would I be\nthe rabbi?\" But my real purpose would be to be the rabbi to the Jewish community\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8640.0,8670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Grand Junction, who has no rabbi, can't afford one. A weekend rabbi comes in\nonce a month. Which I did. My wife and I went out there for three weeks this\nJanuary and went out for three weeks three years ago. It was a very exciting\ntime dealing with a community that doesn't know zilch [zero].\n\nGOZANSKY: Now you're back to Atlanta 1954.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Exactly. Worse. Worse than Atlanta 1952. Much worse. Nothing. But\nnice, intelligent, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8670.0,8700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"professional business people, intelligent Jewish people.\n\nGOZANSKY: Bringing Orthodox rabbis out all the time?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No. They'll take anybody who'll show up. They're not at the point\nwhere they're Orthodox or Reform. They're at the point where they're falling off\nthe brink. They're holding on for dear life. Their teenage kids are gone. Forget\nabout when they grow up and marry out. They're already gone when they're in high\nschool. Grammar school. Very sad situation. So I spent a very good time there. I\ndid classes with them. I did their ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8700.0,8730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friday night services with them. I did\neverything with them. I talked with them. They even call me now with their\npersonal problems. I'm their rabbi. I did the same thing in Santa Fe, New Mexico\ntwo years ago with my wife for ten days. Santa Fe subsequently ended up getting\na rabbi of their own.\n\nGOZANSKY: Which must be that article I was...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: That's it. I like to do that kind of sort of pioneering stuff. I\nenjoyed it.\n\nGOZANSKY: There's a twinkle in your eye. I sit here ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8730.0,8760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wondering in your retirement\nwould you go for a year to a Grand Junction if you were invited?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: They asked me actually. \"GJ\" as they call themselves. I don't\nknow if I would do it for a year because in my retirement I want to be a little\nbit selfish. I'm sick of being unselfish. What I want to do in my selfish years\nis to do the things I enjoy doing, which is not swimming, fishing, hunting,\ngolfing, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8760.0,8790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but to study God's Torah. I haven't had a chance to do it. That's what\nI want to do. Here and there I would do it, but I don't think I'm ready to\ncommit a year or even six months.\n\nGOZANSKY: Has your son done that sort of thing?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Not yet, he probably will. He's meshuga [Yiddish: crazy] just\nlike I am, worse. That in itself is a nice story for your archives some other\ntime, a father-son relationship ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8790.0,8820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at the same synagogue is a real study. Ten years\ntogether. Rare in American synagogue history. A rabbi father and son work\ntogether in the same operation successfully for ten years.\n\nGOZANSKY: Why have you been so successful?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I don't know, but that doesn't usually work. There have been such\nattempts. One was in Denver [Colorado]. One was in New York. [unintelligible:\n19:06] I've known the sons and the fathers. They have not worked out. They\nhaven't gotten along. Or the congregation ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8820.0,8850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hasn't gotten along with either of them.\n\nGOZANSKY: But everybody has gotten along?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Here's been fine. It's been fine. The people here are very unique\nto start with. They're just good people, nice people.\n\nGOZANSKY: He's a good man and you are a good man.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, but so what? You've got to have the chemistry. You've got to\nhave the personality. I happen to be a laid-back person and I don't... I'm\ncontrolling ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8850.0,8880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but not obviously controlling, and I let him do things on his own. I\nhaven't bothered him. Don't you think? I happen to like him and respect him, in\naddition to the fact that he's my son. I just respect his judgement in many\nthings. He also reciprocates. It's been a good relationship.\n\nGOZANSKY: Could you have done this with your father?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I don't think so because my father is from another world. My son\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8880.0,8910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I are from the same milieu [French: social environment]. We can go to a\nbaseball game together. We can talk America together. My father is from Europe.\nIt's a different world. So I may not have been able to do it with him. We may\nnot have been able to see eye-to-eye together. I did it with my father here and\nthere for a holiday, for a shabbos.\n\nGOZANSKY: But your father was your teacher.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes, basically my teacher. I learned a great deal from him.\n\nGOZANSKY: All of our fathers are our teachers on some level, but your father was\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8910.0,8940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"literally your teacher. You were not your son's literal teacher.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Correct. My father is a great scholar. He's a greater scholar\nthan I will ever be. He's one of those legendary figures that I think I may have\ntold you. He knows the Talmud cold. Not only knows it, understands it.\n\nGOZANSKY: It's the understanding that's really...\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Anybody can know. An elephant can learn a dance. You've got to know.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8940.0,8970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: Somebody needs to talk to the rabbi's son and find out why.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Yes. In 30 years talk to the rabbi's son.\n\nGOZANSKY: We'll see why it works so well. Let's see, he's how old now?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Thirty-six.\n\nGOZANSKY: He's been here ten years.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Ten years as assistant now he becomes the rabbi.\n\nGOZANSKY: So he's 36 so if he stays in place, he could have a full 40 years and\nretire at 66.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: No. Forty years he'd be 76.\n\nGOZANSKY: No. Ten years as assistant. That's 30 years counting his\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=8970.0,9000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"assistantship. You're retiring at 63.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Sixty-four this August.\n\nGOZANSKY: With 39 years. Did you think about a fortieth year?\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I didn't. I couldn't take all the comments they would have had\nabout the desert and the wilderness. We could make it 39.\n\nGOZANSKY: Thirty-nine and then you'll go to the Promised Land.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: In the Bible there are 39 lashes that are given to a guy who\nbreaks Torah law, 39 lashes. Plus there are ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=9000.0,9030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"39 categories, legal categories of\nlabor that define the Sabbath laws. What is labor on the Sabbath. \"I shalt not\ndo any manner of labor on the Sabbath.\" What is labor? The legal codes define\nlabor. They have 39 magnificent [unintelligible: 22:30, something about he was a\nlawyer in a previous] categories of labor. What constitutes work on Shabbos?\nIt's also 39 categories of labor and I quit.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=9030.0,9060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GOZANSKY: It makes sense, but I'm sure it's going to be with mixed emotions.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Listen I'm scared as I can be. July 31 is my last full day. I'm\nas scared as I can be because it's going to be a trauma. There's no question.\nI'm going to get up the next morning and run into my office and wait. Where am I\nrunning? No one's looking for me.\n\nGOZANSKY: You'll run into your office and your son will say, \"What are you doing\nin my office?\"\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I'm concerned about how am I going to handle the phone calls when\npeople call me on August the first ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=9060.0,9090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/transcript/31863/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or August the second. I can't talk to you?\nI'm retired? What am I supposed to do? Am I going to sit here and be on the\nphone all day as I am now? Then what's the point of retiring? I haven't worked\nout how I'm going to handle all this but I'll work it out.\n\nGOZANSKY: You'll go to Israel for a little while.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: I'll escape for a little while. That'll do it.\n\nGOZANSKY: You'll visit with your father.\n\nRABBI FELDMAN: Once you're out of town it will be easier. G-d will help me. 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It also contains a rich store of historic facts and traditions.  It has two divisions: the Mishnah and the Gemarah. The Mishnah is the interpretation of Biblical law. The Gemarah is a commentary on the Mishnah by a group of later scholars.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/47769/file/120913/annotation_set/559/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eYeshiva (Hebrew for “sitting”) is a Jewish educational institution for religious instruction that is equivalent to high school. 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After World War II, Rabbi Tobias Geffen moved the congregation to University Drive, where it became the first synagogue in DeKalb County. 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