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He grew up alongside his younger sister Elaine. Gilner attended Morningside Elementary School as a child and went to high school at Grady High School. He graduated from Riverside Military Academy, before going to Tulane University. While attending Tulane, Gilner joined the Alpha Epsilon Pi fraternity. Gilner always knew he wanted to be a doctor since he was young and chose to go to medical school at the Medical College of Georgia. He went on to pursue a specialization in allergy at National Jewish Hospital. While at National Jewish Hospital, he met his wife Celia, who he had two children with, Brian and Michael. Later on, Gilner enlisted in the Air Force and rose to the rank of Colonel. As a doctor, he was well recognized in the Atlanta area. Gilner continued to offer his medical services after retirement through volunteer work. He was a part of the Jewish War Veterans Ahavath Achim Synagogue. \u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eDonald Gilner starts off the interview by introducing his family. He recalls the origins of his family in Poland. Gilner details his family’s immigration journey to Atlanta. He describes the Atlanta Jewish community and his family in the area. Gliner talks about his father’s job as a butcher. He goes on to reflect on his upbringing in Atlanta. He details his educational journey from Morningside Elementary, to Grady High School, to Riverside Military Academy, to Tulane University, and then National Jewish Hospital. Gilner then discusses his experience in the Air Force. He reflects on how he and his wife Celia met in Denver, before switching back to his time in the Air Force. He talks about how he obtained the Fort McPherson Commander's Award for Outstanding Community Service through his volunteering. Gilner recalls what his life was like during the COVID-19 Pandemic. He reflects on the history of medicine in the military. Gilner details a story about his grandfather’s experience with cattle auctions. He also details the story of his mother getting robbed at the meat market. Gilner concludes by reflecting on his father’s medical history and his death. \u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/29025"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eGilner, Donald interviewed by Shirley Michalove on November 16, 2021, in Atlanta, Georgia.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eDonald Martin Gilner was born on May 16, 1937 in Atlanta, Georgia to Abraham and Anne Gilner. He grew up alongside his younger sister Elaine. Gilner attended Morningside Elementary School as a child and went to high school at Grady High School. He graduated from Riverside Military Academy, before going to Tulane University. While attending Tulane, Gilner joined the Alpha Epsilon Pi fraternity. Gilner always knew he wanted to be a doctor since he was young and chose to go to medical school at the Medical College of Georgia. He went on to pursue a specialization in allergy at National Jewish Hospital. While at National Jewish Hospital, he met his wife Celia, who he had two children with, Brian and Michael. Later on, Gilner enlisted in the Air Force and rose to the rank of Colonel. As a doctor, he was well recognized in the Atlanta area. Gilner continued to offer his medical services after retirement through volunteer work. He was a part of the Jewish War Veterans Ahavath Achim Synagogue.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eDonald Gilner starts off the interview by introducing his family. He recalls the origins of his family in Poland. Gilner details his family\u0026rsquo;s immigration journey to Atlanta. He describes the Atlanta Jewish community and his family in the area. Gliner talks about his father\u0026rsquo;s job as a butcher. He goes on to reflect on his upbringing in Atlanta. He details his educational journey from Morningside Elementary, to Grady High School, to Riverside Military Academy, to Tulane University, and then National Jewish Hospital. Gilner then discusses his experience in the Air Force. He reflects on how he and his wife Celia met in Denver, before switching back to his time in the Air Force. He talks about how he obtained the Fort McPherson Commander's Award for Outstanding Community Service through his volunteering. Gilner recalls what his life was like during the COVID-19 Pandemic. He reflects on the history of medicine in the military. Gilner details a story about his grandfather\u0026rsquo;s experience with cattle auctions. He also details the story of his mother getting robbed at the meat market. Gilner concludes by reflecting on his father\u0026rsquo;s medical history and his death.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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My name is Shirley Michalove, and I am\ninterviewing Dr. Donald Gilmer from the Cuba Archives of the Breman Museum.\nFirst, thank you. We really appreciate your, taking the time and that you're\nwell finally or almost well. Thank you. First, tell us your full name, when and\nwhere you were born.\n\nGILNER: Donald Martin Gilner. I was born May 16, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1937, at Emory University.\n\nMICHALOVE: In Atlanta.\n\nGILNER: Hospital.\n\nMICHALOVE: Who were your parents?\n\nGILNER: Abraham. We called him Abe. Abe and Anne Gilner.\n\nMICHALOVE: When and where were they born?\n\nGILNER: My father was born in Poland. My mother was born shortly after her\nfamily and her sisters came to the United States. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She's the only direct relative\nborn in the United States.\n\nMICHALOVE: Was she born in Atlanta or somewhere where they came in the States\n[United States]?\n\nGILNER: New Jersey.\n\nMICHALOVE: Okay. When did they come to it? First of all, when did they meet or where?\n\nGILNER: They met in Atlanta. I'm not quite sure what the situation was. My wife\nmay know. Do you remember Celia? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember that they went on a honeymoon in one\nof these cars, that you sit open. Explain it. [Celia: I just. I just remembered\nthat he was here because of the setting up [indistinct: 00:01:47] and everything\nand she was from New Jersey. Then someone told him about a fellow down here that\nwas single. I think she took a trip to Atlanta, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and they ended up going on their\nhoneymoon with a cousin of his. A Gilner, her name was Dorothy Gilner, and she\nwent on their honeymoon with them. So that's a [indistinct: 00:02:13].]\n\nMICHALOVE: Yes. When did your dad come to Atlanta, do you know?\n\nGILNER: No, I don't but I do know that he was here in high school in the ninth\ngrade because in the ninth grade, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a teacher calls him a kike. Actually, a\nstudent did. When the teacher said, \"Well, you are, aren't you?\" My father\nhauled off and hit him and knocked him down and got suspended and never went\nback to high school. Oh, yes, I do know. He was 14 when he came over. He had\nbeen bar mitzvahed and he came over on a troopship with ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"World War One soldiers\nreturning with other personnel. They brought some refugees over. My grandfather\nwas with them. The little money he had was stuffed in his boot he was ordered\nnot to take his boot off the whole trip, and they came over to the United\nStates. He was 14 when he came.\n\nMICHALOVE: Did they come directly to Atlanta? Did they have family in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta?\n\nGILNER: They the Segal family, I think, was here in Atlanta. They came to\nAtlanta and my grandfather on my father side opened up a store on Capitol Avenue\nwhere they sold meat and other products at that time before becoming\nslaughterers, which is what they did in Europe. In ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Europe, my family for a long\ntime were slaughterers. I have the birth certificate, the death certificate of\nmy great grandfather. Great or great great, great great grandfather Meyer David\nGilman who I'm named after, and it says on the on the death certificate \"butcher\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jew\". I found out when we went to Poland and we got all this information from\nthe archive that, that his mother was Hana, which was my mother's name. My\nmother and my great grandmother and my mother and my grandmother on my mother's,\nthe grandmother on my mother's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"side and my mother are related to Myer David Gilner.\n\nMICHALOVE: So that may be how the [indistinct: 00:05:08; in Hebrew] was made.\nThat that somebody in the family knew that your father was here.\n\nGILNER: Could be.\n\nMICHALOVE: Yeah.\n\nGILNER: My grandfather on my father's side was Isaac. Yitzhak. Now, he was\nclearly named after Maya, David's father, because on the death certificate, it\nhas his name ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as Yitzhak as well. The date of birth and the date of death and the\ndate of my father, my grandfather on my father's side coalesce. One was named\nafter the other.\n\nMICHALOVE: You said y'all, that you and Celia you went to Poland. Do you know\nwhat town in Poland your family came from?\n\nGILNER: Yes. [Celia: I think it's [indistinct: 00:05:55].] ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.\n\nMICHALOVE: Did you get to visit it?\n\nGILNER: I did. It's about 45 miles north, northeast, wait a minute, northwest of\nMoscow. Not Moscow.\n\nMICHALOVE: Warsaw?\n\nGILNER: Warsaw. I found out that my father's birth wasn't registered. We went\nwith a translator, and I looked in the books. 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That was fairly common.\n\nGILNER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Exactly.\n\nMICHALOVE: Tell me about your family relationships in Atlanta. Did you have lots\nof cousins here or do you . . . ?\n\nGILNER: Yes, well, the Sugarman's. Marvin Sugarman and Rose Sugarman. Rose was\nmy father's sister. Then there's the Taratoot's, Pearl Taratoot, which is\nPhillip and Rose Sugarman, Marvin and Minnie ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Silver. They're from Hawkinsville,\nGeorgia. Dora Smith or Dora Label [sp]. That's on my father's side. My mother\nhave, didn't have direct relatives. She had Eva Dubin who was in New York City\nand Mary Guskin and Pearl ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gruber and a boy that died in Poland at age three.\n\nMICHALOVE: Now, tell me about your siblings. Tell me about Elaine and when she\nwas born.\n\nGILNER: Elaine was born in 1939 in a rain, in a snowstorm. The snow was, I tell\npeople \"When my sister was born, the snow was up to my shoulders\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because I had\na picture of . . .\n\nMICHALOVE: And you were all of two.\n\nGILNER: Of the snow built up and I was, yes. So, across the street from us at\nthat time was the Sullivan family and we are still friends.\n\nMICHALOVE: Where did you all live at that time?\n\nGILNER: We're four weeks, we're four weeks apart about off our ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"road in what it\nis now Buckhead and every Christmas we will go over to their house where Dad\nwould bring them a ham and they would give us a fruit cake. That was . . .\n\nMICHALOVE: How did your father, a kosher butcher, give them a ham?\n\nGILNER: My father wasn't a kosher butcher.\n\nMICHALOVE: Oh, okay. He was just a butcher.\n\nGILNER: My great uncle was a kosher butcher.\n\nMICHALOVE: I just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remember Gilner's.\n\nGILNER: Yeah, he was on Ponce de Leon to start with and then on Howell Mill\nRoad, Lennox, I mean. Yes, he was a kosher butcher and that was my grandfather,\nmy father's grandfather's brother, started that. And then his son, Morton Gilner\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"took over.\n\nMICHALOVE: Were they in Atlanta before your father's family came, or do you know?\n\nGILNER: I don't know. I don't know. I do remember, though, one time going to\nPonce de Leon. Where Uncle Joe Gilner was slaughtering the birds for Shabbat.\n\nMICHALOVE: Chickens for Shabbat. Tell me about growing up in Atlanta. What was\nit ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like?\n\nGILNER: I remember I was at Morningside.\n\nMICHALOVE: How did you go to Morningside? From Far Road [sp]?\n\nGILNER: We moved. We lived on Pasadena Avenue off Lennox.\n\nMICHALOVE: That makes sense.\n\nGILNER: Went to Morningside. At that time, when we were in the seventh grade, we\nwere . . .\n\nMICHALOVE: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You went to high school.\n\nGILNER: We used to watch the traffic, we had a vest and so forth.\n\nMICHALOVE: You were a school patrol.\n\nGILNER: Yeah. I remember in the seventh grade, Miss Calloway, who we later\nreenacted with. Over the years and she invited us later in her adult life to her\nclub. 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At\nRiverside, I did well, and I ended up nineteenth ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=750.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in a class of a little over\n100. More than that. I really don't know a lot more than that.\n\nMICHALOVE: In eighth and ninth grade were you at Grady High School?\n\nGILNER: Grady.\n\nMICHALOVE: Okay and then you went to the riverside?\n\nGILNER: I went to Riverside and then Augusta [Georgia].\n\nMICHALOVE: What was that like? 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The merits meant that you got to go home on weekends and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"summer.\nInitially, we were in Florida. We used to go to Florida in January, February,\nand March, I think. Into part of the March. That used to be a Navy base and we\nmarched around the circle and now it's right in the middle of Hollywood,\nFlorida. 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I did well there and accumulated merit.\n\nMICHALOVE: Where did you go to college?\n\nGILNER: I went to Tulane [University].\n\nMICHALOVE: Where to medical school?\n\nGILNER: Then I did a year of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"graduate work.\n\nMICHALOVE: At Tulane?\n\nGILNER: At Tulane, I had a fellowship to do research in psychology. The effect\nof certain drugs on rats. The government gave me a scholarship. I did that. I\ncompleted the course, but I never got a degree because they required a foreign\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"language, and they don't require that anymore. Then I went to medical school.\n\nMICHALOVE: Where?\n\nGILNER: Medical College of Georgia.\n\nMICHALOVE: You went full circle from high school back to Augusta for medical school.\n\nGILNER: Went to medical school where I spent four years.\n\nMICHALOVE: Where did you do your additional year?\n\nGILNER: Medical ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"school was 1960 when I went where the draft was enormous, maybe\nthe highest. The government said the fact that you're in medical school doesn't\nmean you can't be drafted. You're equal to anyone else being drafted. But we'll\ngive you a deal called The Berry Plan.\n\nMICHALOVE: Berry, B-E-R-R-Y?\n\nGILNER: B-E-R-R-Y. 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We had a\nvery liberal family and the wards, [there] were four wards, two for men, two for\nwomen. We had . . .\n\nMICHALOVE: Was this the hospital in Augusta only?\n\nGILNER: Yes. We had . . . the bathrooms were all separate, the drinking\nfountain, everything. I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"never ran across bias against black patients. Maybe I\nmissed it, but I didn't see any student bias . . .\n\nMICHALOVE: Are they on the same ward with the white patients or were they . . .\n\nGILNER: No, they had their own ward.\n\nMICHALOVE: Two wards. A male and a female white, and male and female black.\n\nGILNER: The one difference I noticed is if someone was say, 50 years old. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They\nwould go in and say, \"Mrs. So-and-so, how are you?\" That was a white person.\n\"Mary, how are you?\" That was a black person. It didn't matter what age they\nwere, but essentially, the care, as far as I could see from the medical staff\nwas the same at the place, except for the fact they were separated in that way.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not that that's a good thing, but just that was the fact.\n\nMICHALOVE: That was the way it was.\n\nGILNER: That's the way it was. When I finished and had to take my boards, I had\nnever really met a college graduate that was black. I went to take my boys from\nthe state of Georgia and Mallory Medical School was taking their boards. That's\na black ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"medical school. We had an . . .\n\nMICHALOVE: Is that one in Georgia or in Tennessee? The one in Tennessee.\n\nGILNER: It's not in Georgia.\n\nMICHALOVE: I think it's in Tennessee.\n\nGILNER: We sat down and talked for an hour, and it was very interesting to me to\nsit down and talk to them. That that was my medical education and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"course at that\npoint, I was then a first lieutenant.\n\nMICHALOVE: Where did they, where did the army sent, or the Air Force send you?\n\nGILNER: Initially, I was the first lieutenant but then, you don't go in the\nservices a doctor to the first lieutenant. You graduate medical school, but they\nlet me do an internship.\n\nMICHALOVE: Where?\n\nGILNER: In ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Brooklyn [New York]. Brooklyn at Kings County Hospital. Kings County\nis a very big hospital, much bigger than Grady here in Atlanta. Kings County,\nCook County, L.A. general, the biggest, hires some of the biggest hospitals in\nthe United States. We work 36 on, 12 off about 100 hours a week. Very fatiguing.\n[I] got paid, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think about $0.45 an hour and food. I did about 860 deliveries.\nI was going into pediatrics, so at 3:00 in the morning when the other intern was\nsupposed to deliver a baby, I would say, \"Would you want me to deliver the baby\nat 4:00 in the morning?\" He said, \"Yeah.\" I delivered a lot of babies and then I\ndid a month of gynecology ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1350.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and trauma surgery and general surgery, internal\nmedicine, pediatrics, etc. When I finished, I did a . . .\n\nMICHALOVE: Was that for just one year or . . . ?\n\nGILNER: One year. I thank God.\n\nMICHALOVE: Yeah.\n\nGILNER: I mean, it was seven days a week. We used to get off every other weekend\nby ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"working extra nights to make up for being off on the weekend. Like we work\nfrom Saturday morning to Monday night. That was a hall. They outlawed that in\nNew York since then, but I finished, and I wanted to be a pediatrician. I\napplied for Temple [University] in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Philadelphia [Pennsylvania] and did a\nresidency in Pediatrics and got board certified.\n\nMICHALOVE: Tell me what a board-certified means.\n\nGILNER: Board certified means that you pass an oral and written test showing\nthat you have accumulated the knowledge of a professional pediatrician and that\nyou know the disease is well enough. To be an expert ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in being a pediatrician is\njust general a field. Then there's specialty fields in pediatrics, just like\nthey are in internal medicine. I finished pediatrics and then decided I wanted\nto be special in pediatrics. To be special, I wanted to have something I knew\nmore about, but I wanted to do General. 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I said, \"I really just want to do one year and be happy to be the\npatrician that knows a little more about some.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I applied to the best programs\nin the country. Not expecting to get accepted to anyone, really. I got accepted,\nexcept that in endocrinology and allergy, allergy came first. Allergy at\nNational Jewish Hospital. [It's] now National Jewish Health. I think.\n\nMICHALOVE: Denver [Colorado].\n\nGILNER: In Denver. It's the standard of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"number one in the world for\ntuberculosis, number one in the world for immunology, number one in the world\nfor allergy. It's the top hospital. I accepted expecting to quit at the end of\none year of a two-year fellowship. But the more I did, I said to myself, \"Wait a\nminute. As an allergist, I got to know this, this, and this. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But as a\npediatrician, I got to go to neurology, cardiology.\" I said, this is, this meets\nmy need more because I'm very compulsive in wanting to study and keep up with\neverything. I decided to stay in pediatric allergy, which really is not just\nallergy, it's allergy, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"asthma, immunology, various forms of allergy and asthma.\nAsthma being my number one in enjoyment and training and immunology. I did\nimmunological workups but didn't do treatment. Keeping up in immunology required\nquite a bit, but I could do an immunological ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"workup.\n\nMICHALOVE: And were you board? Did you become board certified in allergy and . .\n. ?\n\nGILNER: I became board certified in both pediatric and adult allergy. Then while\nin Denver, I occasionally had time. They had, we worked incredible hours and\nhours a week, which was as a pediatrician, I think, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and probably the same as an\nallergist. I went to the synagogue periodically and for Russia, China in Yom\nKippur one year they had called me and wanted me to come to the dance there.\nPlus, I had one lady there that was just trying to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"make fangirls for me. I did\ngo and everybody was very young, and I really didn't want to go back the next\nyear when they called me. They talked me into it by saying, \"Well, there's a\nyoung Jewish nurse from Iowa who's here and you might want ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to meet her.\" I said,\n\"I didn't know there's Jews in Iowa.\" I felt they were all in New York and\nChicago [Illinois] and that area, but I didn't know they were Iowa. I said,\n\"I'll tell you what, I'll call her up and talk to her on the phone and maybe ask\nfor a cup of coffee and we'll see.\" I called her up and I think we spoke for an\nhour at least. 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Tell me her name and was\nshe working in Denver or?\n\nGILNER: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, she just graduated nursing school, came to Denver with some\nroommates and was a nurse in General Hospital, which is right next to the\nuniversity, to Denver, to the, the medical school in Denver. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, she just really\njust came, but she had a requirement to come from her parents. That requirement\nwas that she joined the Jewish community center and joined a synagogue.\n\nMICHALOVE: That's how you met her.\n\nGILNER: I met her after the Synagogue. I met her at the dance. I met her on the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"telephone. After dinner and after that, it took us four weeks and we were\nengaged. Now, why were we engaged at four weeks? I dated her every minute I had,\nevery, all weekend. As much as I could, took her out to dinner with my limited salary.\n\nMICHALOVE: You had a whirlwind courtship.\n\nGILNER: The problem was I had to take ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"four boards. I had to take the boards. You\ncan't take the boards in pediatrics until two years later. You have to practice\ntwo years. My allergy counted as pediatric practice. I had to take oral and\nwritten boards and pass each one to take the other. I'm sorry. Written first and\nthen oral. 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I couldn't get it at that time. I told her general doctor to get\nher a chest x ray. She was wheezing and I saw her in my office is what happened,\nand I got a chest x ray. She had a thymic cyst. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"2000 ccs of fluid in her chest\nand a thymic cyst. That's what was causing her to have shortness of breath and\nwheeze. 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I don't even really know what a prayer\npartner is.\" She says, \"Well, don't you go to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"church?\" I said, \"No, I never go\nto church.\"\n\nMICHALOVE: Oh, boy. That must have gone over real well.\n\nGILNER: She kind of stood up and I said, \"We're Jewish.\" As she stood up, she\nsaid, \"Can I take a picture of you?\"\n\nMICHALOVE: She had never seen a Jew.\n\nGILNER: Apparently not. She wanted a picture to show if there was horns in our\nhead, I think. 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Okay, I want to shift gears for just a minute.\nDescribe if any ways that the COVID pandemic has ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=3600.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"shifted your relationship with\nbeing Jewish and what's been the most interesting or the most difficult thing\nthat you've had to cope with through the pandemic? I know you're retired, so\nit's not medical. It's just, have you coped with it personally? I know you've\nbeen in the hospital several times, but not for COVID.\n\nGILNER: Right. No, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=3630.0,3660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not because of that. Because I was in the hospital, I was\nreally, it really hasn't bothered me that much.\n\nMICHALOVE: It's affected your family, I would assume, because I couldn't come\nsee you in the hospital.\n\nGILNER: That's true. That's, the big thing was my wife couldn't come see me and\nkids couldn't get to see me.\n\nMICHALOVE: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How many children do you have and where do they live?\n\nGILNER: I have two sons, one in Alpharetta [Georgia] and one in Ventura,\nCalifornia. The one in Ventura, California. He's raising two kids that were bar\nmitzvah and bat mitzvah in Atlanta and they're now 16 years old. 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Yes, they are.\n\nMICHALOVE: One ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"twin's in Israel and the other twin's still in California.\n\nGILNER: The twin was born with congenital heart disease and has a pacemaker and\na special diet and can't go. I need to stop for a minute.\n\nMICHALOVE: Okay. 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The last . . .\n\nMICHALOVE: Memorial Day ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=3780.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or Veteran's Day?\n\nGILNER: Memorial Day. The last Memorial Day, I gave this sermon, basically, and\nit's been well received. I've gotten a lot of compliments for what I have to say\non Memorial Day. 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Of which many\nphysicians have that this particular certificate.\n\nMICHALOVE: Tell me what you think your legacy will be or talk a little bit about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=3960.0,3990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"legacy.\n\nGILNER: I've left ten legacies. I wrote out something because I think it's so\nimportant. I wrote, his parents. We all really feel that we have a great legacy,\nour children. That is a legacy they can carry on. 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It has been proven to shape you in many positive ways, such as\nmaking you a principal person by example. Leaving an impact makes the world a\nbetter place. Makes you feel . . . you make the world a better place.\n\nMICHALOVE: Okay. I want to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=4050.0,4080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"circle back. Just a minute. Celia was telling us that\nyour grandfather would go to cattle auctions. That he knew from the old country,\nhow to judge cattle. 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When you got it so many times, they used to just give him a share\nof the amount.\n\nMICHALOVE: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=4170.0,4200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not to bid?\n\nGILNER: Not to be in it. He also worked with my father at the slaughterhouse. It\nwas where Bacchanalia, is that the restaurant where that restaurant is? 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He also got into financial trouble during the war\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=4260.0,4290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because of the fact that he didn't deal in the black market and because there\nwas rationed and ended up for a short period of time opening a store right\nacross from the penitentiary almost. Then he came back. He started doing well\njust in time to send me to college.\n\nMICHALOVE: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=4290.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fortunately.\n\nGILNER: Yes. At that time, we, I also had a small amount of money that my\nmother's father, when he came to the United States, had saved for me to go to\ncollege for the first male. I got that as well. 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He was rescued many times from\npulmonary failure. One time he said, \"That's it, I don't want to be rescued this\ntime.\" He determined his own death at the hospital at ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=4470.0,4500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Emory and died peacefully.\nHe had quit smoking many years before. There is one story, and that's my\ngraduation from medical school. 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You know, I had many things in my office that\noccurred that the people said that were funny and, and many different ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=4680.0,4710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"diagnoses.\nCelia and I have stayed in the office taking care of people way passed office hours.\n\nMICHALOVE: Did you work in your office? Did you all work together?\n\nGILNER: That's a good question. Celia would fill in. You can't have, when you\nhave multiple doctors, we had four doctors at one point, three or four depending\non when. 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They understood the whole thing\nabout asthma, how to avoid it, how to treat it, what to do and answered\nquestions. Anybody that wanted that, we would give that in the evening\nperiodically and uh, and Celia was very good in coming up with the program for that.\n\nMICHALOVE: I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=4800.0,4830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thank you. This has been a pleasure. The copy will be at the\nBreman, and I think it will be on our website. It will, eventually.\n\nGILNER: [Celia: Can I just say one thing about his father? Yeah. Always struck\nme was he would be very sick. They would put him on a respirator and as soon as\nhe got off, he wanted to eat. One time ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=4830.0,4860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I went into his room, and I found out\nthey had gotten him off the respirator and his food tray was sitting there. and\nI felt his pulse and I couldn't tell one beat from another; it was going so\nfast. I called him and I said, \"Don, your father is in worse shape than I've\never seen him.\" I said, \"He's gray, and I can't tell one pulse from the other\",\nhe says, and I said, \"And I told the nurse about it and she said that the doctor\nwas in that morning.\" He says, \"Tell them he needs to go to the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=4860.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"emergency room.\nMy husband is a doctor and that's what he said.\" Boy, they got him in. When they\ngot him pink and they gave him the treatment and all that, they took an arterial\nblood gas [analysis] and it was incompatible with life at that point. He had had\neczema, I mean, asthma.\n\nMICHALOVE: Emphysema.\n\nGILNER: [Celia: Emphysema so long that his body had tolerated this terrible\noxygen deprivation. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=4890.0,4920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He never, ever complained about his situation. Yet he was\ncarrying oxygen when it was a big tank to lug around on wheels and stuff. And\nthen finally they got a little pat.]\n\nMICHALOVE: Yeah.\n\nGILNER: He had a good sense of humor about everything. [Celia: He was a\nsurvivor.] One quick one, they were wheeling him in, one of the visitors in the\nemergency room. He was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307#t=4920.0,4950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/85203/file/173307/transcript/41358/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"again very sick, not that sick, but pretty much very\nstrongly in respiratory failure. As he's going in the door, he hollered \"If\nthese nurses are beautiful, you get me the hell out of here.\"\n\nMICHALOVE: That was his sense of humor.\n\nGILNER: Where he got the strength? 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