{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/6h4cn6zc23/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Steinberg, Cathey Weiss"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2003-04-18 (creation)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English (primary)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source"]},"value":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum Esther and Herbert Taylor Oral History Collection"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCathey Steinberg interviewed by Joan Pressman on April 18, 2003 in Atlanta, Georgia.\u003c/p\u003e (general)","\u003cp\u003eCathey Weiss Steinberg was born in 1942 to Stanley Marvin Weiss, Sr., and Miriam Weiss in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, where her family had a successful shoe store business. Three of her four grandparents were born in the United States. Her grandfather came from the Hungary-Romania area. Her family belonged to a Conservative synagogue. She went to Hebrew school and was confirmed. Cathey received a bachelor’s degree in psychology from Carnegie-Mellon Institute and a master's degree in education and counseling from the University of Pittsburgh. While in Pittsburgh, she met her former husband, David Steinberg, where he was studying cardiology. They married in 1967. In 1971, he received a cardiology fellowship at Emory School of Medicine and they moved to Atlanta. Cathey became involved in the National Council of Jewish Women and joined the Temple on their arrival to Atlanta. She was persuaded by a friend to run against the state representative. Without experience, she won and served in the Georgia House of Representatives from 1977 to 1988. She was the first the first Jewish woman to serve. During her career in the House of Representatives, she was a leader for consumer, family, and women's rights. She was the primary sponsor of the resolution to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment in 1981-1982. She served in the Georgia Senate for one term from 1991 to 1993. In 1999, Governor Roy Barnes appointed her as Georgia's first Consumer Insurance Advocate. She left the post in March 2003. Cathey has two children, Jill Steinberg Bhan and Lauren Steinberg Silberman. She married Irwin Levine in 1987.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eCathey Weiss Steinberg begins the interview talking about her parents and being raised in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.  She relates that she has many aunts and uncles. She reflects that her schooling at Wyoming Seminary Preparatory School and her elementary school years prepared her to move comfortably in different circles later in life. She speaks of her exposure to non-Jewish people and Jewish people of a certain economic level and reflects that the exposure helped her in her career in the South. She discusses her years spent in Pittsburgh where she attended college and met her former husband. She discusses moving several times before moving to Atlanta for a fellowship opportunity her husband had at Emory School of Medicine. She discusses the difficulty moving to the South and relates that she was expected not to have a career and only to raise children. She reflects on her need to have a professional life and what led her to run for the Georgia House of State Representatives. She talks about the lack of women role models during that time how she carved a way for herself as the first Jewish woman in the Georgia House of Representatives. She discusses the prevalent paternalistic attitudes she encountered while in the House and recounts the stereotypes people had of her and being perceived as a “smart Jewish Yankee.” She reflects on the friendships she eventually forged with the predominantly male House of Representatives and how she educated the other members on Jewish history and eventually helped bridge understandings. Cathey speaks about her achievements and bills passed that she is most proud of, particularly in the area of women and nursing home residents. She also speaks candidly of the difficulties and her least favorite moments of her career and life in the South. Cathey speaks of her two daughters, Jill and Lauren. She discusses meeting her husband Irwin Levine.  She mentions his four children and their combined families.\u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/28304"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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She went to Hebrew school and was confirmed. Cathey received a bachelor’s degree in psychology from Carnegie-Mellon Institute and a master's degree in education and counseling from the University of Pittsburgh. While in Pittsburgh, she met her former husband, David Steinberg, where he was studying cardiology. They married in 1967. In 1971, he received a cardiology fellowship at Emory School of Medicine and they moved to Atlanta. Cathey became involved in the National Council of Jewish Women and joined the Temple on their arrival to Atlanta. She was persuaded by a friend to run against the state representative. Without experience, she won and served in the Georgia House of Representatives from 1977 to 1988. She was the first the first Jewish woman to serve. During her career in the House of Representatives, she was a leader for consumer, family, and women's rights. She was the primary sponsor of the resolution to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment in 1981-1982. She served in the Georgia Senate for one term from 1991 to 1993. In 1999, Governor Roy Barnes appointed her as Georgia's first Consumer Insurance Advocate. She left the post in March 2003. Cathey has two children, Jill Steinberg Bhan and Lauren Steinberg Silberman. She married Irwin Levine in 1987.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eCathey Weiss Steinberg begins the interview talking about her parents and being raised in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.  She relates that she has many aunts and uncles. She reflects that her schooling at Wyoming Seminary Preparatory School and her elementary school years prepared her to move comfortably in different circles later in life. She speaks of her exposure to non-Jewish people and Jewish people of a certain economic level and reflects that the exposure helped her in her career in the South. She discusses her years spent in Pittsburgh where she attended college and met her former husband. She discusses moving several times before moving to Atlanta for a fellowship opportunity her husband had at Emory School of Medicine. She discusses the difficulty moving to the South and relates that she was expected not to have a career and only to raise children. She reflects on her need to have a professional life and what led her to run for the Georgia House of State Representatives. She talks about the lack of women role models during that time how she carved a way for herself as the first Jewish woman in the Georgia House of Representatives. She discusses the prevalent paternalistic attitudes she encountered while in the House and recounts the stereotypes people had of her and being perceived as a “smart Jewish Yankee.” She reflects on the friendships she eventually forged with the predominantly male House of Representatives and how she educated the other members on Jewish history and eventually helped bridge understandings. Cathey speaks about her achievements and bills passed that she is most proud of, particularly in the area of women and nursing home residents. She also speaks candidly of the difficulties and her least favorite moments of her career and life in the South. Cathey speaks of her two daughters, Jill and Lauren. She discusses meeting her husband Irwin Levine.  She mentions his four children and their combined families.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. 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I'm interviewing Cathey Steinberg on April\n18, 2003, for the Jewish Oral History Project of Atlanta, co-sponsored by the\nAmerican Jewish Committee, the Jewish Federation of Greater Atlanta, and the\nNational Council of Jewish Women.\n\nSTEINBERG: I'm Cathey Steinberg. I'm very honored to be interviewed today. I am\na member of National Council of Jewish Women and the American Jewish Committee.\n\nPRESSMAN: Thank you. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You were born in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. Start from\nthere and with what brought you to Atlanta.\n\nSTEINBERG: I was born in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, which is northeastern\nPennsylvania. Most people don't know where it is. [It's] about two hours from\nPhiladelphia. I went to college in Pittsburgh [Pennsylvania]. I went to Carnegie\nMellon University, which used to be Carnegie [Institute of Technology] Tech. I\ngot a B.A. in Psychology. I stayed at the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"University of Pittsburgh and got a\nmaster's in education and counseling. During that period of time, I met my\nformer husband, who is from Pittsburgh, who was at Washington \u0026 Jefferson\nCollege. We were introduced through a friend of mine from Wilkes-Barre. We dated\noff and on for a long period of time. He was two years older than me and went to\nPitt Medical School [University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine]. At some point\nin this somewhat tumultuous relationship, I moved to New York City. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He\nsubsequently moved, and we ended up getting up married in 1967. That was during\nVietnam [War].\n\nPRESSMAN: You were married where? In New York?\n\nSTEINBERG: In Philadelphia, actually, which was a good compromise between\nPittsburgh and Wilkes-Barre since there is not many places to get married in\nWilkes-Barre. We went immediately to Philadelphia because he was doing a\nfellowship ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in cardiology in Philadelphia. He got drafted, as all the doctors\ndid, when he was there. He came in as a captain, knowing nothing. We were then\nsent to Fort Devens, Massachusetts, which is about 50 miles north of Boston.\nIt's near New Hampshire. Much like this winter, we had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"snow 10-11 feet high. I\nhad my first child there, Jill [Steinberg Bhan], December 30. I could not go out\nof the house without help until the end of March. It was frozen. He was a\nphysician, so we actually got the roads cleaned. During that period of time,\nafter the second year there, he was thinking about taking a cardiology\nfellowship. We were both ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"motivated to try to go somewhere in the south. He went\nback one year to Philadelphia . . . or somewhere warmer between Pittsburgh and\nNew Hampshire, I mean Fort Devens, Massachusetts. There was a very, very\nprominent cardiologist named [Dr. John] Willis Hurst, who had just written a\nbook called [Hurst's] The Heart. It became the classic textbook for\ncardiologists and fellows. That's how we ended ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up in Atlanta. David got an Emory\n[School of Medicine] fellowship. His name is David Steinberg. We came down here\nnever, never, never expecting to stay. It was 1971. We kind of chuckled and\ncried a bit. I am telling you the truth. We heard hog calls on the radio. We\ncame down here and he did this fellowship. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Loved the weather because he'd get\ncalled out a lot at night. He was here two years. He said, \"I either want to\nstay here or go to Florida.\"\n\nPRESSMAN: What were you doing while he was doing the fellowship?\n\nSTEINBERG: I was crying a lot. [Laughing] I was a Yankee true and true. I\nprobably still am underneath it all. I had an 18-month-old baby. I had always\nworked part-time. I worked full-time in Philadelphia, actually, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to earn the\nmoney as a social worker in a private foster care and adoption agency,\nChildren's Aid Society. In those days, they had a lot of adoptions. Did a lot of\ninterracial adoption and all that. When we were in New England in Fort Devens, I\nworked in a mental health center there, part time, even after I had the baby. I\nwas able to balance it. I got down here. If you called anybody about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"part time,\nit was like, \"And you're a mother? What are you doing? You're supposed to be\nhome.\" I just didn't know anybody really.\n\nPRESSMAN: What part of town did you move into?\n\nSTEINBERG: We moved into the area very close to where I live now. We moved to\nBuford Highway, which is where all the young Jewish couples lived and a lot of\nmedical students. A lot of them were in my apartment, Middleton Arms. We\nactually had a great time. We had a great apartment, especially compared to\nPhiladelphia, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on this courtyard. I became very friendly with my next-door\nneighbors, who I just saw in Florida. He is practicing now in Florida. We looked\nafter each other's kids because these doctors, they were never home. But I was\nnot a happy camper. I think the first six, seven weeks we got here, it rained\nevery day. It was hard for me to do anything professional. I just wanted to do\nsomething. I did get involved in the National Council of Jewish Women. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's\nsome of my earlier memories of getting to know people. I really liked the\nCouncil. We did this thing called the Green Circle, which was fairly new at the\ntime. It was a way of looking at diversity and inclusion.\n\nPRESSMAN: Explain it more. Diversity in?\n\nSTEINBERG: In people. It's been a long time. It was about 1972. I think we went\ninto schools. It was a program ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about including people of different races and\nethnic diversity. Well, we didn't have much ethnic diversity here. The Jewish\npeople were minority, but in terms of what we have today, immigrants, it was\nminute. I used to say the only ethnic food we had was Southern fried chicken. We\ndid go into the schools. I think it was more racial. It was a way of getting to\nchildren about people being different.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"PRESSMAN: Would it be like a prejudice awareness?\n\nSTEINBERG: Yes. Forgive me, National Council of Jewish Women, if I have this a\nlittle wrong because I've had a lot of things go on since those days. But I do\nperiodically connect with people that were involved in that. That's how we first\nmet each other. I really think it was probably 1972, 1973. Also, the Tay-Sachs\nscreening, which in those was, as you mentioned, very novel. They had just\nidentified ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how you can get Tay-Sachs. Sherry Frank put the whole thing together\nif I remember. It was a phenomenal success. I think, I don't know if they still\ndo it, but they did for several years after that, and it was a huge success. I\nremember that very well. That kind of thing was very meaningful. We took our\nlittle ones to swimming class and to music class. Eventually I met and\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"befriended a few people, but it was a hard time because my former husband was on\ncall almost every other night or every third night. I remember Jill had strep\nthroat. I was all alone. I had strep throat. There was nobody. It was just hard.\nI eventually made some friends and neighbors. Then, in the 1970s, I think it\nmight be right ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before we decided to stay here. It was a two-year fellowship. He\ndid not want to move back, even though the area around where we were in the\nservice would have built an office for him. I did not want to go to Florida\nbecause at that time, both his parents and my parents were there. I just wasn't\nready for it. So, we stayed in Atlanta. I cried a lot about it. 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My daughter even did a study\nas part of a project at The Westminster School on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"driving thru a McDonald's and\nhoping that once every tenth time they would get the order right. I didn't have\nthe patience. I thought they were slow. Even though they didn't toot, nobody\nknew how to drive, in my opinion. You know, a Yankee snob. Schools, mediocre at\nbest. I ended up sending my kids to private schools. I missed my old friends. I\njust didn't expect to be there. We had been in Philadelphia as a part of that\nfellowship. 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Not because of the Jewish community but because I was used\nto doing, by virtue of my jobs or whatever, to being connected to the city.\n\nPRESSMAN: Did you belong to a Jewish synagogue when you first came down?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"STEINBERG: Not in our very first years. After we decided to stay, we joined the\nTemple. My former husband is very, very unreligious. Really, it was something I\ndid. It was close to us, as we lived near Buford Highway. I did it for my kids.\nIt didn't work that well. 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It just was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so radically different. A couple of years . . . shortly\nafter we decided to stay, there was a very, very, very bad flood in\nPennsylvania, what was then the worst flood in the history of the country. The\nSusquehanna River overflowed and dumped in my town. My parents had called early\nthat week and said they were going up to my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"uncles, who was the dentist. It' s a\nlittle bit up higher. They were going to play bridge and they'd let me know\nafter things passed. Not knowing, I couldn't get them for a week. Literally\ndumped and ended up . . .\n\nPRESSMAN: Your parents are American born?\n\nSTEINBERG: Yes. My parents are American born. My mother [Miriam Weiss] was born\nand raised in Wilkes-Barre. My father [Stanley Marvin Weiss, Sr.] was born in a\ntown called Coatesville [Pennsylvania], which is outside of Philadelphia, and\ncame to Wilkes-Barre. My family had a family ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=720.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"business, low priced shoe business,\nlike Butler Shoes. It was very successful at the time. They had about 135 stores\ngoing down the east coast. On my father's side, I had a lot of cousins and\naunts. They fixed my father up with my mother. It was during World War II. I\nthink it was six weeks they got married. Three weeks they got engaged or\nwhatever. They were both 21. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=750.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All three out of my four grandparents are American\nborn. Fairly unusual. My grandfather in Coatesville was from the Hungary-Romania\narea. My other three grandparents, I believe, all graduated from high school and\nI think may have gone to junior college.\n\nPRESSMAN: Back to the flood. I just wanted to . . .\n\nSTEINBERG: Yes. Anyhow, I think that's important because my upbringing was\nfairly different, I think, in some ways.\n\nPRESSMAN: [unintelligible]\n\nSTEINBERG: Yes, right. I also ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=780.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"went to school in Pennsylvania in a school\nsomewhat like Westminster, which was a Methodist-based school. It was less\nbigoted than Westminster used to be. It's getting better. There's very close\ninteraction between Jewish people and non-Jewish people, in most cases, and\ncertainly Jewish people of a certain economic level. There was a very Orthodox\ngroup that was like on the hill with the delegates ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and stuff. But this group\nmixed. My exposure to the new bloods of the world was very comfortable for me.\nThat, I think, is something that helped me down here. I wasn't intimidated. I\ndidn't grow up in a Jewish ghetto. There weren't enough of us. Although we\nbelonged to a Conservative synagogue in Pennsylvania, I was confirmed. I don't\nthink those days, Conservative synagogues bat mitzvahed women. No, I don't think\nwhen I was that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=840.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"age. I went to Hebrew School twice a week and then on Sundays. I\nwas a very bad girl. A lot of my social structure was that way. Having gone to\nthis Wyoming Seminary Preparatory School and most of my elementary years to the\nday school, and my mother had gone to the day school, and then went to public\nschool because it was after the [Great] Depression, I think enabled me to kind\nof move in different circles, more easily maybe than some Jewish people that had\nvery ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"little exposure. I didn't know it then, but I think it probably helped me.\nAnyhow, this flood. They went up to play bridge and I didn't hear from them for\na week. I couldn't reach them. It ended up to be such a disaster because\neverything landed . . . the Susquehanna River overflowed and everything went\ninto my town. Even though the Johnstown flood in the 1930s, or whenever it was,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no matter what they did, it just flooded the whole town literally. There were\ngraves, cemetery plots, that came rolling into people's back yards. It was a\nreal disaster. Nobody was killed, amazingly enough. Amazingly enough. Most\npeople, this flood went all the way through the whole house, the second floor.\nMy parents, who had built their house, it went through the second floor, but the\nfoundation was okay. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have a first cousin with three babies, and they lived a\nlittle bit more in the valley, their house was wiped out. My dad worked out\nsomething with my cousin, and they moved into our house and my father kind of\nshipped my mother down here. She wasn't well at the time and stayed up there and\ncame back and forth. Most everybody threw everything away. My father, God bless\nhim, didn't. They washed it and sent it to the cleaners and tried to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"save the\nfurniture. Because of the economics . . . my father was just talking about that\nthe other day, the federal government, nobody had insurance. They didn't even\noffer it then. The federal government gave them a certain amount of money and\nthen a loan or whatever. But, unbeknownst to me, he and my mother went and\nbought a condominium in Vinings [Georgia]. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hello, guess what we did. You know,\nthey were back. They kept an apartment up there because my grandmother was still\nliving, but they also had a place here. They also had an apartment that my aunt\nleft my father in Florida. They were kind of in all three places. I was really\npanicked at first because I was typical 30-year-old, mid-30s, daughter. Very\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"independent. I think the kids get along better now, but I was very rebellious. I\nwas very nervous about having them here. It ended up being the best thing that\never happened. I don't know if I would have wanted it if they hadn't been here\nis what I was getting at. It was a very hard time. My mother in 1964, 1965, had\nwhat they think was a heart attack. A very bad family history on my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1050.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mother's\nside. Her brother, who was a pediatrician, dropped dead at the age of 42 with\nfour sons. A very bad family history. It took a very difficult toll on my\nmother. That's a whole other story. For years and years and years, she had a lot\nof anxieties and increasing vascular disease. She was very spunky. My father and\nmother had a love affair until the day she died. Yes. He really was a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"phenomenal\ncaregiver. It ended up being a blessing because they were here more and more.\nWhen I decided to run for the legislature in 1976, I said, \"Will you promise to\nbe here during the legislative session?\" Because in those days, women . . .\n\nPRESSMAN: I'm going to interrupt and ask you this question.\n\nSTEINBERG: Sure.\n\nPRESSMAN: Prior to you deciding to run, what started before 1976 that put you\ninto even considering the race?\n\nSTEINBERG: Right. I'll tell you about that. What happened is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was still . . .\nDavid decided to stay. He went into practice with Bernie Whitman [sp], that a\nlot of people know, for a while. I was trying to find myself. I did some\npart-time social work with an international adoption agency with Ronnie Funk\n[sp] and some other part-time work like that. But I was still bored to death and\nnot happy. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the same time, I was having a lot of trouble with my car, the\nstation wagon. You have SUVs now. We had station wagons. When I didn't have\nanything else to do, I could get a little obsessive about which days do I\ncarpool, Monday and Wednesday or Tuesday and Thursday. I knew that wasn't good\nfor me. But I had this car, and every time I had used more than one appliance,\nlike the horn and the radio, the car would go dead. Or the horn and windshield\nwipers. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1170.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I took it back, back, back, back. Finally, I just threw the car at them\nand I got a new car, a station wagon. One day, I was coming through Corporate\nSquare [Boulevard], which is off Buford Highway, back from this part-time job,\ninternational adoption thing, three weeks after I got my car. It was raining,\nand a woman ran a stop sign. This is the truth. I've told this story many times,\npeople that have heard me. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meanwhile, stepping back a little bit, I had a friend\nwho was very political. She doesn't live here now, but she was trying to get\nsomeone to run against the state representative.\n\nPRESSMAN: Can you give her name?\n\nSTEINBERG: Her name was Paula McMartin [sp]. She was Jewish.\n\nPRESSMAN: Paul?\n\nSTEINBERG: Paula McMartin. She had married a guy named Dan McMartin. We had\nconnected somehow during the service and they ended up moving here. She got\ndivorced. Very political, still is. She lives in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Washington now. Had worked as\nan assistant in the legislature. Worked with people like Elliot Levitas. She had\nbeen trying to get somebody to run against this jerk that lived in . . . he\nrepresented the Buford Highway area. His name was George Petro. A Jewish woman,\nShirley Kramer [sp], had run against him two years before and lost. She had\nasked a million people. She asked me. She said, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"It's only 40 days and its\n$7,200. You know, that's it.\" I said, \"Well, you know, it's better than nothing\nand I'm so bored.\" Never thought about winning. Never thought about what I had\nto do. The first thing I said to her was, \"First of all, I'm not qualified.\nSecond of all, who's going to care for my kids?\" During that period of time\nafter she asked me, I would find myself thinking, \"If Marlo Thomas and Shirley\nMacLaine, I swear, could go to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Democratic Convention, why can't I do this?\"\nThese were our role models in those days. I like them all, but it's sort of sad.\nIt was in 1976. That was at the back of my mind, but life is what happens when\nyou're making other plans. I don't necessarily take the bull. I'm not really the\nproactive person that people think I am. Getting back, I was doing this\npart-time job, and cutting through Corporate Square with my new car, and this\nwoman ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ran into me. It was raining. The first thing I did was I got out in the\nrain - we didn't have cell phones - and went to a phone booth in a restaurant to\ncall my housekeeper that I had two days a week so she wouldn't quit because I\nwas stuck there waiting for the police. Meanwhile, I knew my husband wouldn't be\nhome. I sat there for about an hour obsessing about what am I going to do? How\nam I going to carpool? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1350.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I've got this new station wagon and how am I going to\ncarpool? And God spoke to me, I swear. I didn't know at the time, but it was a\nshe. I didn't even think about it at the time. And said, \"You love your children\nand thank God nobody was hurt,\" which I hadn't even thought about. I was so busy\nworrying about my carpool. \"But you need to do something else besides\ncarpooling.\" And that was it. The police came. I got home. I said ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to my kids and\nmy husband who, of course, were waiting for me to come home and fix dinner. \"I\nwas in an accident, nobody was hurt, and by the way, I'm going to run for the\nlegislature.\" I had no idea what that meant. Fortunately, ignorance is bliss\nsometimes. I did learn and I used to say to women' s groups in those days,\nbecause all women in those days, not all, most of us, would always find other\nreasons not to do things. \"I'd like to do it, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but . . .\" The best thing that\nhappened to me is I said, \"I'm going to do it\" and then figured out how to make\nit happen. I don't give myself credit as a better person. It was desperation. I\nfigured I have to do something because I was driving myself crazy. I often\ntalked to women in those days - if it's something that you want to do, make the\ndecision, go for it, and things will fall into place. They all sat there in\nshock. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I called my friend, Paula, and she hadn't gotten anybody else. I said,\n\"I'm going to run.\" We had to qualify within two weeks. That week we had to go\ndown to the Democratic Party in DeKalb [County], which used to have some\nactivity. Mind you, it was a very Republican county then. Elliott, I think, was\nelected. In the legislature, which went up to Northlake . . . ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it was pre-Jimmy\nCarter. They were all Republican. [President] Jimmy Carter was running this\nparticular year. We get in the car to go to the Democratic meeting, and Paula\nsays to me, \"By the way.\" I think I qualified. I did by petition, which you\ncan't do now. I went to everybody in my apartment. I didn't want to spend the\n$300. You can't do ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that anymore. Anyhow, people were really supportive. She gets\nme in the car and we're on our way down, and she says, \"By the way, you're going\nto have to say a few words.\" I said, \"But Paula, I don't speak in public.\" I\nthank God because if I would have thought about it, I wouldn't have done it. We\nget down there, and she's making notes. I'm a wreck, and I'm going to embarrass\nher. I'm thinking, \"What can I say? What can I say? I got to speak. I got to say\nsomething.\" To make a long story short, I got up and I was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pretty good. I wasn't\nbad at all. Of course, she was so relieved and realized she had left the keys in\nthe car and the whole thing. It's ironic, because if I would have known what I\nneeded to do, I wouldn't have done it. Also, nobody knew who I was, so I had\nnobody to disappoint. It was harder the second time. \"Who is she?\" Then we\njumped into it. David called every doctor he referred to. He was an internist\ncardiologist, so he referred a lot. Leslie Jablow ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who still lives here in Indian\nHills. Leslie and her husband were very friendly with us. We all came down at\nthe same time. She was like my campaign treasurer and Paula McMartin, my\nmanager. A friend of mine in my apartment was a pretty big feminist then, she\nreally got involved and made me go to all these houses. One minor detail. My\nopponent, the incumbent, lived in my apartment complex. He was a single guy. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I\nwould watch the sheriff come and post a notice that he wasn't paying his rent,\nbut nobody knew who I was. He had been in two terms. We went to every door in\nthe district. I knew nothing about politics, but I knew how to talk to people\nand I like people. We went where the old Standard Club used to be. These are\npeople, a lot of older people, that nobody ever came to see. The old Mercedes\nused to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go 70 miles an hour down their streets. I walked Drew Valley by the\nairport. My friend would make me go. She would bribe me. If you go from seven to\nnine [o'clock], we can go to Baskin Robbins. She kept index cards in those days,\nwe didn't have computers, of every single constituent voter and what we had\ntalked about. Very methodical. I had two men in the primary. They were going\naround in those days saying, \"You can't elect a woman. She's got two little\nkids.\" I would go to some doors and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would give them my brochure and I would\ntalk to them. They would say, \"I certainly will vote for your husband, dear.\"\nThey would look me right in the face.\n\nSTEINBERG: Right before the primary in July, we made calls. We had a meeting\nearly on and got all my Jewish friends from Council and other places, and they\neither went door to door or made phone ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"calls. If they were Southern enough,\n[they went] door to door. If not, [they made] phone calls. They would think they\nwere me. I mean, if they were women, they would think they were me. Not\nintentionally, but a woman is a woman is a woman. When the primary came, anybody\nthat I didn't visit, I would call. And anybody that I visited, they would call.\nWe really covered the district. I would call people up and say, \"And did you get\nyour sewer fixed?\" They didn't care. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Really, it was a lot of old timey\nDemocrats. I went to the leading Republican. I was told to do. Her name was\nAlice Hooper [sp]. I made a personal call. They made me do that, Paula, because\nshe was very well known up there in the mostly Republican area. She was so\npleased that I came. She said, \"I have to support him this time because he\nhelped me with funding for my road, but next time I'll help you.\" People were\njust very open. We did have people that put up yard signs. My dad ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"walked the\ndistrict. Put out all the brochures. In those days, it was probably 18,000\npeople. That's how much it has grown. He would go to every house over a period\nof a week. He was in very good shape. Stuff the brochures. He put up all the\nsigns, got some help. We had a couple burn to the ground that first time. It was\nvery scary. People not too far from me, off of Drew Valley and North Druid\nHills, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"where Lenox Park is now, they were just scared to death. My father, he\nwanted to stay out all night and watch. It was around Halloween. They picked\neverything up.\n\nPRESSMAN: You think it was burned because you were a woman?\n\nSTEINBERG: Jewish.\n\nPRESSMAN: It burned because you were Jewish?\n\nSTEINBERG: I think [because I was] Jewish. Very few people cared. But a friend\nof mine was making a phone call and got a man on the phone who said, \"I would\nnever ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"vote for a Jew girl in my life\" and hung up. She would not make another\nphone call. But overall, minimum, which has always meant a lot to me. I mean,\nhere I am, this Yankee with about as much in common . . . I mean there was a\nJewish section down down near where I lived off of Shady Valley, Dunwoody Place,\nDunwoody Trail, but these were old timey people.\n\nPRESSMAN: When did you move there from Buford Highway?\n\nSTEINBERG: After I got elected. We were still on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Buford Highway. I went to the\npolls. [unintelligible], but I did. I was 33. My kids were three and six [Jill\nSteinberg Bhan and Lauren Steinberg Silberman]. These friends of mine, they\ndidn't live in the district and they would walk. We had stories. They would walk\nthe streets for me and make phone calls. We were all kind of together in this\nbecause nobody had anything to do. We were all transplanted, just about. A lot\nof our husbands were in medical school or dental school. We had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"potluck suppers\nat Leslie's. Leslie Jablow and I would debate whether we should charge $25 or\n$35. Women were so insecure about fund raising, but we spent very little money.\nThe Chinese restaurant, Northeast Plaza which used to be The Peking, God bless\nthem, they gave us the restaurant on a Sunday. People like Mitch and my husband,\nthey all were waiters. That was a big hit. We did very creative. I don't think I\nspent ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"$3,000 on the campaign. So, came the primary. There were two other men.\nYou had to win by 50 percent or more, at least in those days. I think they\nmodified it a little bit now. Much to my amazement, despite one of them putting\nout flyers about, \"the mother should be home with her children,\" I won without a\nrunoff. I think it was 52 point. I don't know what it was, but it was like, \"who\nis she?\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1920.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was stunned because not only was I Democrat, female, and Jewish, but\nI had won without a runoff. That was unheard of. I remember standing out front\nof polls, you can't do that anymore which was my legislation, because my\nopponent in November was not doing things that were very honest. I remember\nwomen saying to me, \"Don't tell my husband but I'm voting for you\" in those\ndays. I win without a runoff, which still ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"amazes me. Paula, my friend who\nrecruited me, says, \"By the way, I'm moving to Washington. I'm going off to work\nfor Elliott, but you'll be fine.\" I'm like, \"Oh, my God, what do I do now?\" This\nother friend who went door to door with me and Leslie, we fudged around. I\ndidn't have any formal campaign manager. I did pretty much the same kind of\nthing. But we focused on Democrats then.\n\nPRESSMAN: Where were you the night the results came in that you had won?\n\nSTEINBERG: Where were we? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At somebody's house. Or the clubhouse maybe. I can't\nremember that too well. I remember all these other years because we went to\n[Atlanta Marriott] Century Center where it was always freezing. I cannot\nremember that night. I remember every other one that's come back to me. Maybe it\nwas . . . I don't remember. Clubhouse maybe. No, it wasn't that far out. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2010.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think\nwe all went down to Democratic headquarters in Decatur because I remember Paula\nthere saying to me, \"Congratulations! This is great. By the way, I'm moving.\" I\nthink we went to Democratic headquarters or Elliott's campaign place, because I\ndidn't have an office. We worked out of my house. Then, in November we did the\nsame thing. In November, we did the same thing but we had to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"target the general\nelection. That was harder because my previous were Democrats. We did the same\ntype of thing and really did a lot of community stuff. I was at this\nneighborhood meeting. I went to all PTAs even though my kids weren't . . . they\nwere both in nursery and preschool. I don't think my one was in Galloway\n[School] yet. I went to all the community meetings. During that period of time,\nI met all the PTA leaders. Very grass roots ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"based on [unintelligible] advising,\nincluding sitting down with Manuel Maloof. Many people who hear this know or\nremember right in the beginning, he helped me a lot. He had a lot of family from\nthat area. My district, by the way, went from bordered on the city of Atlanta\noff of Buford Highway near Green' s Liquor Store all the way up to the\nPeachtree-DeKalb Airport and a little bit north of that. Everybody who ran was\nRepublican. We were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2100.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at this meeting up in the Republican area, and my opponent,\nGeorge Petro . . . Let me step back. I didn't know a thing about issues. This\nfriend of mine, Paula, was trying to teach me about gasoline divorcement and all\nthis stuff that I couldn't connect with. I just was not convinced that people\ncared that much, by instinct. A few times in some meetings, I had a few sort of\nhostile people say to me ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"afterwards, \"Well, you don't know anything.\" I said,\n\"Well, I don't know a lot, but I have the same concerns as you do. I'm a parent.\nI live in the community. We have a lot of growth in this community. A lot of\ntraffic in this community. I have children. I care about what people in the\ncommunities care about.\" This guy gets up at one of these meetings and he says,\nmy opponent, \"I don't waste my time on motherhood and apple pie issues. I get\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"involved in the big things.\" I sat there and I said . . . I was terrified at\nevery one of these meetings. Although ignorance was bliss. I didn't even know\nwhat I didn't know, and I didn't mind saying it. I said, \"I'm sorry that my\nopponent doesn't care about motherhood and apple pie issues, because I can't\nimagine anything more important.\" And that was it. Then we were in this\nneighborhood. Everywhere we went on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"panels, before he even had a chance, I said,\n\"I can't imagine that my opponent said at the Ashford Park meeting that he\ndidn't care about motherhood and apple pie issues. He only cared blah blah . .\n.\" That's what sort of, I think, turned the tide. I also had made some friends\nand they would sort of be in the audience. People, newspapers, DeKalb paper\n[Decatur-DeKalb News], were starting to write articles about, \"Who is Cathey\nSteinberg? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where did she come from and who is she?\" To make a long story short,\nin October I began to think that maybe I would win. I tell this to people\nbecause they do not believe me, legislators and non-legislators, that I would\nlie awake around the middle of October terrified that I would win. What will I\ndo if I win? I have no idea what you do. I had never been to the state capitol\nbefore I qualified. I didn't say that out loud for ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ten years after I got\nelected, but I began to tell that to women, especially so they could feel more\nencouraged about doing things. But I had no idea, no idea at all. I began to\nreally panic. Sure enough, I won by 53 percent of the vote. Jimmy Carter ran\nthat year. I think that helped turn out the Democrats. Suddenly, there I was\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"elected. I had no idea. I figured all I had to do is act smart. I didn't know\nwhat I was doing. I tell this that as soon as I met legislators, they assumed I\nknew what I was doing and I was smart because I was Jewish. I swear on my life I\nwas told that. She thinks she's smarter than everybody. Mind you, I had no idea\nwhat a bill was. I had no idea how to read anything, but I fudged it. I learned\nthat nobody else ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"knew. People who had been there for years didn't know a lot. In\nthe meantime, this was the year of the biggest speaker's race until this year.\nThat was Speaker Tom Murphy and [A.L.] Al Burruss who challenged him. Before I\nknew it, I picked up the paper and they had put me with Al Burruss. I didn't\nknow what to do. Tom Murphy was from Bremen, Georgia. Smoked a cigar, big cowboy\nboots and hat. The two of us looked at ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"each other like we were from other\nplanets. I did support Al Burruss. I regretted it, partly because he tried to\nslip me some money, but it didn't matter because I was branded. That hurt me a\nlot coming into the legislature. I also was the first and only Jewish woman in\nthe state house [Georgia House of Representatives] let alone Yankee. I come in\nin 1977, mind you, wife of a doctor, mother of two young kids, driving a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"station\nwagon. They all came over to me in my face, I swear they were looking to see if\nI had horns, and said to me, \"Do you know Bella Abzug?\" People who hear this in\nthe future, they don't know who Bella Abzug is, but for those of our generation,\nshe was the first woman and I think Jewish woman, congresswoman in the country.\nShe was a very, very well-known feminist who wore a great big hat. Very ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2400.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"New\nYork. She was well known because of that. That's what they said to me, assuming\nthat every Jewish woman in the whole country knew each other. Then they started\ncalling me, I don't think intentionally, Cathey Steinem, for Gloria Steinem, my\nname being Cathey Steinberg. People would come over to me, I am telling you,\nthese boys and legislators and say, \"I met a Jewish drum player in New York. . .\nblah blah blah . . . Do you know him?\" They all assumed I was from New York. I\nhave ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"nothing against New York but it bothered me because their assumption was\nthat every Jewish person with a Yankee accent, and I don't consider my accent\nNew York, was from New York. There was stereotype after stereotype after stereo\ntype. Sidney Marcus, may he rest in peace, who we all love, and a young man\nnamed Mike Nichols, who was only in two terms and moved to Texas but he is the\nson of Fred Nichols and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his wife, very well known in the Atlanta Jewish\ncommunity. He was about 25. There were three of us. He got elected at the same\ntime. But Sidney and Mike were southern born and bred and not inclined to make\nthe kind of statements that I was comfortable making. Having grown up, as I said\nearlier, in a pretty integrated Jewish/non-Jewish climate, I never worried about\nmy identity one way or the other. But I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"often felt over the years, even though I\nwas perceived as the feminist, that God put me there as a Jew because I never\nminded speaking up. I never had to in my life. But I was horrified by a lot of\nthe behavior that my comfort level to speak out was. I had no problem with it.\n\nPRESSMAN: At which level?\n\nSTEINBERG: In terms of this Jewish person. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sidney Marcus and I quietly . . .\nthere was a preacher of the day. We would go up after every morning and if the\npreacher was sensitive to other religions, we would say, \"Thank you very much\nfor your sensitivity. We're the Jewish members in the House.\" If they weren't,\nwhich was most of the time, we would go up and say, \"We just wanted to say hello\nand let you know that we are the Jewish members of the House.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because they\nwould go, \"Born again. Born again. You can't be saved if you haven't believed in\nChrist\" and on and on and on. The Speaker, Tom Murphy, even though it took him\nseveral years to like me, loved Sidney. When there became a few of us after the\nfirst year of swearing in, maybe even the first year, he gave us ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Old Testament\nBibles. I can't remember if at the first term we were sworn in with New\nTestament, but he did give us Old Testament Bibles. He became very sensitive. He\nwould get up over the years, and he would say, \"Now, Mr. Preacher,\" if they were\nBaptists . . . he is a primitive Baptist speaker, he would say, \"I just want to\nremind you that there are people of other religions in this body.\" Most of the\ntime, it was just me because, unfortunately, Sidney passed away. A guy named\nMilton Hirsch, I think from Columbus, got defeated and Mike Nichols moved to\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Texas. He would say that. Of course, they would all look at me. If the preacher\nkept going on, the Speaker would sit up there and nod his head, like, \"I'm\nsorry, I can't help it.\" I felt like the conscience in that sense of the House\nand talked to people and those around me, including Sanford Bishop who is now\nU.S. Congressman and other people would be very sensitive and come over to me\nafterwards. Otherwise, it didn't dawn on them. 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I had a\nyoung man, Gene Edelman [sp], I think, who was a Soviet refusenik who used to do\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a lot of speaking. I did have him speak and Cantor Goodfriend sing so that I\ncould bring that . . . I became aware after my husband and I . . . No, we got a\nhousekeeper because he was never home. She was a lovely nice white lady from\nMarietta, who her first week came up from watching a movie about the Holocaust.\nThe family in the movie's name was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Weiss. She came up and she said to me, \"Did\nthat really happen?\" Nice. Meant well. After she talked about her son \"Jewing\"\ndown for the car. So, these two came. I think it was very beneficial. I had a\nyoung man, a bright guy from someplace in the state senate. Paul Tulloch [sp]\nhis name was. Pretty sophisticated, but he said to me, \"Is it really true about\nSoviet Jews? I have never met one before.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2730.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The reality was so disconnected. I\ndid a lot of that over the years. We made two steps forward and one step\nbackward. I did get elected and came in, and the speaker's race.\n\nPRESSMAN: This is Joan Pressman, interviewer. Tape three. Cathey Steinberg.\nApril 23rd.\n\nSTEINBERG: This is Cathey Steinberg again, going on and on. 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He\ncame over to me the next morning ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2790.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and shook his fist at me and said, \"The devil\nis going to get you for that\" in my face. That was not an atypical kind of\nresponse. There were things like that that happened quite a bit. The other thing\nis my first year, one of the first bills was about corporal punishment, spanking\nkids in the school. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2850.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I looked out and I saw 180 blank stares at me. I got all finished with\nwhat I thought was a pretty good statement, which was a lecture. This legislator\nnamed Jones Lane [sp], who was also from South Georgia, stood up and said, \"The\nBible says, 'Spare the rod, spoil the child.'\" They all voted against me except\nfor a handful of friends. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"After that, a reporter came over to me. He said, \"You\nknow, Cathey, that was a very good presentation you made, but they didn't\nunderstand one word you were talking about. Never talk above eighth grade.\" I\nknow that was 1977, but I also learned that I was coming from the viewpoint that\nhad nothing to do with the religious upbringing and the rural Baptist philosophy\nthat most of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"legislators in those days had. I, in fact, was the kind of\nvisitor to this body and had to learn to be more tolerant about that. Over the\nyears, I learned to be better. People would say to me . . . I also coming from\nthe north was raised that you don't talk to somebody unless they talk to you,\nand if they're a stranger, always be careful. I never, I didn't talk to people\nif they didn't talk to me. 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I'm friendly.\" They said, \"No. You never said hi to\nHenry Reeves,\" who was the chairman of agriculture \"and those folks.\" I said,\n\"Why would Henry Reeves want to even talk to me?\" So, I paid attention to that.\nI was there, \"Hi, Mr. Reeves.\" And he would say, \"Hi, Miss Cathey\" and \"How you\ndoing?\" I learned to honey up and got ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"used to Miss Cathey and we all hugged and\npatted each other on the back. I, actually, over the years learned to like it as\na friendly somewhat paternalistic but well-meaning kind of behavior. But they\nall thought that I was unfriendly because I thought I was too good for them,\nobviously because I was a smart Jewish Yankee. It all boiled down to that. I was\njust doing it because that's how I was raised, but nobody believed me. There was\na lot of learning on both sides. This ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jones Lane, who said \"Spare the rod, spoil\nthe child,\" also went after Hosea Williams, who is no longer living but was one\nof Martin Luther King's lieutenants. There was an issue where something came up\nand there was a seating problem on the floor. Jones Lane absolutely refused to\nsit next to Hosea. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was just a very embarrassing, very embarrassing situation\nbecause I had heard that he was one of the more staunch segregationists before I\ncame down. Hosea sat one seat away from me. It was a real confrontation on the\nfloor. Jones Lane subsequently died as did Hosea. They have a highway named\nafter him. Never talked to me, I don't think, the whole time I was there except\nto tell me that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Spare the rod, spoil the child.\" His son came in and ended up\nserving with me and was much quieter and was the one that brought in the Vidalia\nonions somewhere in South Georgia. I think my last year in the house in 1988, I\nwas in the back. He said to me, \"There's something I've been wanting to ask you\nfor a long time.\" He was not a real smart guy but sweet. He said, \"There's\nsomething I've been wanting to ask you for a long time.\" I said, \"Okay, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bob.\nWhat's your question?\" He says, \"How come y'all are so smart?\" He meant it\nsincerely. \"How come y'all are so smart?\" I kind of gave him a serious answer. I\ntalked about survival and the Holocaust and Jewish people believing in study,\netc. etc. etc. He was very intrigued with that. Obviously, one understands the\nstereotypes. Not that we're not all smart, but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"those things that they carry\naround that I'm happy to say many of them began to talk to me about. I hope it\nwas a contribution that you only get when you build relationships of the many\nyears that I was down there. I'm going to step back a second because I think I\ntalked about both husbands. It is probably a good idea to mention that I was\ndivorced in . . .\n\nPRESSMAN: Did your politics have anything to do with it?\n\nSTEINBERG: People always say, \"When did you divorce your husband\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was the\nquestion back then. I would say, \"What comes first? The cart before the horse or\nthe horse before the cart?\" I don't really think it had anything to do with it.\nMy former husband was a very busy physician. Circumstances were that it just\nwasn't the right marriage or the right time for us to get married. There were a\nlot of stresses. In those days, not for all women but for some women like me, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it\nwas a real struggle to find an identity. I did not want to be Mrs. Doctor. [I]\nwanted to be something. It was my personal turmoil. It was not that long after\nBetty Friedan's book that came out. I can't remember the name of it, the classic\nbook which will come to me, when women began to think maybe it' s okay to do\nsomething in addition to raising children. I had my internal struggles that\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really were no fault of David's. He was going through an enormous amount of\nstress in medical school and all that. Medical school and studying for the\ninternal medicine boards and the cardiology boards. Vietnam for a period of time\nand little kids. I think it was . . . that was the day when I think women and\nmen got divorced fairly easily. It was a disposable generation. If you weren't\n\"totally happy,\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's what people did. Who knows what life would bring under\nother circumstances. We divorced on very good terms. My kids, we never had a\nchild custody arrangement. The more he would see the kids, the happier it would\nmake me. That was never an issue. I was unmarried for about 10, 11 years. I\nthink I just wanted to raise my kids. I had figured one father is enough. Then\nmet Irwin [Levine], who was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"separated. There was a big article about my run for\nthe Public Service Commission and my picture. The story was on the front page of\nthe [Atlanta] Jewish Times in about 1987, maybe. He always had a strong interest\nin politics and is very, very liberal and thought that I was very liberal.\nAlthough after we went out, he found out that I was not as liberal as everybody\nthought I was. He is actually much more liberal than I am in many respects. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It\nwas timing. He and I met each other that way and dated through my PSC race and\nsubsequently got married. He has four children. Between us, we have six between\nthe ages, now, of 30 and 38. One of mine lives in California. One of his, who\nhas three grandchildren, lives in Chicago [Illinois]. Three children. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The rest\nof them are in Atlanta, many of whom have recycled through the years into living\ndownstairs in our house. It keeps us busy. My husband is an attorney and has a\ndifferent philosophy. He's much more, \"you've got to make time for yourself.\"\nAfter I lost the race with the Public Service Commission, we went away for three\nweeks. We went to Israel and stopped in Turkey and Greece. I had never been away\nfor more ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3360.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than four days, I don't think. I always thought life wouldn't survive\nwithout me. He made me . . . not made me, but realize that I could go and life\nwould go on. We've done a lot more traveling over the years. Somewhat, I've\nslowed down a bit. I don't know how much.\n\nPRESSMAN: I have a question for you, which I'm sure many people have asked you.\nWhere do you see your future in Georgia?\n\nSTEINBERG: I was just asked where I see my future in Georgia. 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I wasn't, so it was kind of a shock to me when it came to me on\na telephone call by one of the staff members of the governor because I had never\nhad an interview with any of the governor's staff, though we were told we would.\nAs of this date, four or five weeks later, I still have not ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"heard from anybody.\nRight now, I work to the end of March and today is 23rd of April. I'm still\ntrying to get my new, you may laugh at this in the future, my new laptop\ncomputer to work and get all my information from the state laptop and the state\ncomputer and my organizer, which folks in the future will probably have in their\nwrist or something. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's a major job to do and trying to decide what I want to\ndo. I definitely want to do something. I have about two more years where I could\nget some retirement, a lot more than I would get if I didn't go back. Having\nbeen an agency head under Governor [Roy] Barnes, who by the way, is about to win\nthe John F. Kennedy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Profile in Courage Award next month for having the courage\nto remove the state flag with a Confederate symbol. Caroline Kennedy is\npresenting it to him. He is one of three people in the country, including a\nlegislator in Georgia, who got up and spoke about hate crimes. They are in the\nmidst of a debate now with the new governor. They are probably going to remove\nhis flag. Nobody knows the outcome. He was very courageous. I had the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"opportunity to be proactive on a lot of insurance issues, including uninsurance\nand health care insurance issues. As much as I would like to make those two\nyears up, I'm coming to grips that it has to be something I feel is meaningful\nand worthwhile. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind working part time like I did\nbefore. So, I really can't answer that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm at a time where . . .\n\nPRESSMAN: You have answered it.\n\nSTEINBERG: Yes. I'm enjoying the time I'm talking to you . . . I'm talking about\nmyself talking to you. I'm trying to exercise more and catch up on things that I\nhaven't done in a long time. Somebody told me it's one of the many cycles that\npeople do after they lose a job or retire. They do a lot of things that they\ndidn't have a chance to do. It's one of the many phases. So, I don't know but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3600.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I\nhope it will be something meaningful. I'm still involved . . . I was not as\ninvolved in community things the last couple of years. One, because I worked\nfull time and often didn't come home until 7: 00 -- 7: 30. 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They have an annual event which they called and\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"asked me to do the closing remarks, which made me feel very good because I'm\nfeeling very unimportant right now. I feel good being interviewed by you today.\n\nPRESSMAN: Looking back, what would be your favorite memory?\n\nSTEINBERG: [Laughing]\n\nPRESSMAN: Not with the children but in politics.\n\nSTEINBERG: My favorite memory. That's a hard question to answer. I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/30966/file/99040/transcript/22366/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"often said\nthat of all the pieces of legislation that I got involved in, passage of the\nNursing Home Residents' Bill of Rights, strangely enough, was about my most\nfavorite because it really, I believe, made an impact on those most vulnerable.\nThere has been a lot of federal law now that has strengthened the state law. 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