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She received her Jewish education from a synagogue in Macon, Georgia, which was around 50 miles away. Growing up, she was a part of the Girls Scout. After graduating high school at 16, Rose attended college at Temple University in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. She married Sol Benamy in 1935 and moved to Atlanta, Georgia. The couple had two children together, Frederic and Rita Benamy. Through Sol, Rose becomes actively involved with Hadassah and Zionism.\u003c/p\u003e (bioghist)","\u003cp\u003eRose Benamy begins the interview by reflecting on her childhood in Hawkinsville, Georgia. She reminisces on what it is like to grow up in a small town and Jewish education. Benamy reflects on her time as a Southerner at Temple University. She recounts the story of when Temple University integrated and started having black students. Benamy details how she met and married Sol Benamy. She details how Sol courted her. Benamy talks about how she got more actively involved in Hadassah and Zionism efforts after marrying Sol. She remembers her first visit to Israel in 1951 for the World Zionist Congress. Benamy then reflects on being a parent and raising her children. She details her children’s religious upbringing and how her time in Israel impacted how she raised her children. Benamy concludes the interview by talking about her daughter Rita and her grandchildren. \u003c/p\u003e (scope content)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://archivesspace.thebreman.org/repositories/2/archival_objects/29196"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["World Zionist Congress (corporate name)","Zionism (topical term)","Hadassah (topical term)","Benamy, Sol (personal name)","Arab–Israeli Conflict (topical term)","Jewish Education (topical term)","Hebrew School (topical term)","Israel (geographic term)","Macon, Georgia (geographic term)","Atlanta, Georgia (geographic term)","Bar Mitzvah (topical term)","Antisemitism (topical term)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBenamy, Rose interviewed by Diamond, Margrey on November 4, 1985 and November 18, 1985 in Atlanta, Georgia\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eRose Benamy grew up in Hawkinsville, Georgia. She received her Jewish education from a synagogue in Macon, Georgia, which was around 50 miles away. Growing up, she was a part of the Girls Scout. After graduating high school at 16, Rose attended college at Temple University in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. She married Sol Benamy in 1935 and moved to Atlanta, Georgia. The couple had two children together, Frederic and Rita Benamy. Through Sol, Rose becomes actively involved with Hadassah and Zionism.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003eRose Benamy begins the interview by reflecting on her childhood in Hawkinsville, Georgia. She reminisces on what it is like to grow up in a small town and Jewish education. Benamy reflects on her time as a Southerner at Temple University. She recounts the story of when Temple University integrated and started having black students. Benamy details how she met and married Sol Benamy. She details how Sol courted her. Benamy talks about how she got more actively involved in Hadassah and Zionism efforts after marrying Sol. She remembers her first visit to Israel in 1951 for the World Zionist Congress. Benamy then reflects on being a parent and raising her children. She details her children\u0026rsquo;s religious upbringing and how her time in Israel impacted how she raised her children. Benamy concludes the interview by talking about her daughter Rita and her grandchildren.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAll rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, recorded by any information storage and retrieval system, without the express written consent of the William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["William Breman Jewish Heritage Museum"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/082/original/TheBreman_SecondaryMark_Horizontal_Blue_Black.png?1713640889","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Benamy__Rose_Levenson.mp3"]},"duration":9305.712,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/public/images/audio-default.png","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-thebreman.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/200/101/original/Benamy__Rose_Levenson.mp3?1690160784","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":9305.712,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Benamy, Rose [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿DIAMOND: This is Margery Diamond speaking. It's November 4, 1985. Would you\nplease say your name and address for me?\n\nBENAMY: Rose Benamy.\n\nDIAMOND: Your address?\n\nBENAMY: 3160 Howell Mill Road, Northwest, Apartment 425, Atlanta, Georgia.\n\nDIAMOND: Thank you. That was great. This is an interview with Rose Levinson\nBenamy for the American Jewish Committee and the Council of Jewish Women's,\nJewish Women of Achievement Oral History Project. This is Margery Diamond\nspeaking at Mrs. Benamy's home on Monday, November 4, 1985, and this is Side A.\nCan I call you Rose?\n\nBENAMY: I wish you would.\n\nDIAMOND: Okay. Rose, what I'd like to do is just start with, I know that you\ntold me you were born in a small town in Georgia and now live in Atlanta. I'd\njust like to start there. What was lifelike in a small town for you?\n\nBENAMY: For me, it really was wonderful. Every moment of my life was really\nwonderful. We were the only ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish family for many, many years. In fact, I was\nclose to graduating high school before another Jewish family even lived there.\nMy entire childhood was with Christians. We loved each other. There was, believe\nit or not, I did not experience any antisemitism. I doubt if I knew what the\nword was all about then. I knew I was Jewish because ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my family, the closest\nsynagogue was in Macon, Georgia, 50 miles away. The High Holidays, my father\nused to come to Atlanta, which was 150 miles away, and go to Gold's Delicatessen\non the south side of town and pick up all the foods that were necessary. they\nwere packed in dry ice, and he would bring it back to Hawkinsville. Then we\nwould celebrate those High Holidays in our ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"home. It was just something that came\nabout naturally. I knew I was Jewish. I understood what being Jewish meant. The\nChristians, it was just another religion to them, and we were respected more\nthan anyone because my mother had the biggest, in fact, at the beginning, the\nonly-department store there. There just was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no distinction as far as any of this\nreligious thing. I even went to, the Baptist Church had what they called a young\ngroup called BYPU [Baptist Young People's Union]. I was invited, not to their\nchurch, I didn't go to the church or anything for anything except their\nactivities, which were usually picnics and anything social. I was never left\nout, and I looked ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"forward to going, because if I had been in a place where we\nhad any Jewish activities, in turn they would have come to them. The main thing\nthey loved, all my friends looked forward to Passover because my dad always got\nextra boxes of matzo, which to them was unleavened bread, and that's directly\nfrom the Bible. Then made a big issue out of our Passover, waiting to get ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their\nunleavened bread, which [phone rings], excuse me. Let me answer the phone.\n\nDIAMOND: Okay. Now, this time I've remembered to push down the orange button. We\ntalked a little bit without the recorder on. I think what we're going to try to\ndo is remember . . .\n\nBENAMY: I think the recorder was on. You haven't got it on right this minute?\n\nDIAMOND: Yes, it's on right now. After the phone, I did not push the orange\nbutton. We only talked about the fact that the year that you were born was 1912.\n\nBENAMY: Incidentally, that was when Hadassah was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"born, and the Girl Scouts. Girl\nScouts later on became very, very important to me, soon as we had someone to be\nin charge of the Girl Scouts in Hawkinsville. Finally, we got, it was unusual\nthat we had a lady clerk of court, and I lived in Pulaski County, and that was\nthe county seat, Hawkinsville, the county seat of Pulaski County. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They had a\nlady in those days in those days, to think about it now, that was the clerk of\ncourt. She took over and was the leader of the Girl Scouts, and organized the\nGirl Scouts in Hawkinsville, Georgia. Okay. I don't need to tell you how much .\n. .\n\nDIAMOND: No, no. That's very --\n\nBENAMY: It was so important because that was an activity that really, to me and\nmy friends that belonged . . . and it was really strange ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because the only ones I\nthink that joined, as well as I can remember, that joined the Girl Scouts were\nmy friends who were interested in being an actress. It had absolutely no bearing\nwith what the Girl Scouts were or anything. It seemed that no one else was\ninterested in joining the Girl Scouts but the few of us who always felt like\nthat when we grew up, we wanted to be an actress. 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Now,\nFitzgerald, Georgia was about 45 miles away, and they had more Jewish families.\nIt was very difficult, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because everyone was in business, and if the weather was\nbad, on Sunday, that's the only time that the adults, the parents, as well as\nthe children, could get together. It was taking a chance to go and come in one\nday, because if it rained, our car would turn around completely on these clay\nroads, and you were stuck. That happened even, almost, I guess I was almost out\nof high school before we had paved roads going into Macon ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and other places. I'll\ngo back a little about my childhood before I get to graduating high school.\n\nDIAMOND: I'd like to hear a little bit about what the holiday was actually like\nin your home. You said that your dad went and bought food.\n\nBENAMY: Because we all had the prayer books . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Did you have Haggadah?\n\nBENAMY: Oh, yes, yes. We had the Haggadah and everything. We had the prayers for\nRosh Hashanah.\n\nDIAMOND: Who was around your holiday table?\n\nBENAMY: I had, I'm the oldest, and I have two younger ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"brothers. It was my,\nsometimes some of our friends would come in and just want to sit and, you know,\nlisten to it. That was just a few people that were interested. They would sit,\nand then we, like Passover, we all read, and we would take turns. My father was\nlike the leader. Then he would be the leader of the services, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very similar to\nwhat happens in the synagogues and temples today. He'd have each one of us go\naround and read a paragraph at a time. That's really how we do today at the\nSeder. That certainly came back automatically, not from my upbringing, and it\nall came very natural after I left Hawkinsville and went off to college. Excuse me.\n\nDIAMOND: Okay.\n\n[interview pauses, then resumes]\n\nBENAMY: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The main thing is, I forget what I'm talking about.\n\nDIAMOND: All right. Let's run it back just a little.\n\nBENAMY: If you remember, that's all that's necessary. What was I talking about?\n\nDIAMOND: I'm not sure.\n\n[interview pauses, then resumes]\n\nDIAMOND: Since we don't remember, let's just start with a new similar question.\nI heard you say that your father read the services. Was that the only form of\nJewish education that you got?\n\nBENAMY: Until I got, I mean, I hadn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"graduated high school, but whenever we\ncould, we would go to Macon, which, as I said, was 50 miles away, and attend\nservices there. It would be so rare, because everyone worked in the stores every\nsingle day of the week except Sunday. That would depend if you had dependable\nhelp in your store that you could go and leave. The busiest day of the week was\nSaturday, because ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all the farmers used to come in from their farms, and that was\nthe day when the rode in horse and buggies and they would park their horse and\nbuggies and mainly come to my father's store. They would do all the shopping for\nthe family, their children and all, and buy all the clothes and everything. They\nnever came more than once a week, and that would be on Saturday. It so happened\nthat I had a very close friend who lived on a farm, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and quite often I would go\nback home with them in the buggy and stay until Sunday. Quite often they would\nleave their daughter to spend that day with us. We would usually take her back\nfor her school, wherever was closer. Sometimes these children didn't even come\nto school in Hawkinsville. They would go to probably a one-room deal. I don't\neven remember that. I remember my girlfriend and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me riding a horse and buggy\nback and loved that. That was so exciting, to spend a day on the farm.\n\nDIAMOND: What kinds of things did you do with her? How did you and your\ngirlfriend have fun?\n\nBENAMY: Oh, what I did at home in that age, it was not what city children did. I\nreally think they miss out a lot, being born in the city. I don't know if it's\nthe timing or what. Like all of our swimming was done in a creek. There was no\nsuch thing as a swimming pool. There was a wonderful creek we'd go to swim. 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My\nfolks wanted me, picked a college that had the most Jewish people, and Temple\nUniversity in Philadelphia happened to have 52 percent Jewish people attending,\nso that I could be with Jewish people for the first time really ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in my life,\nreally with Jewish people. Also, in Philadelphia I had an aunt and uncle and\ncousins, so I wasn't like really, it was strange, but it really wasn't, I'm sure\nthey never had anyone quite as country. I didn't think I was country, but of\ncourse my experience at college was really one for the books, because that year\nthat I went off, number one, I was, I may have been the only Southerner, but I'm\nnot too sure about that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I am sure that I was the only one from Georgia. They\nall, all the students, the professors, everyone just went nuts over my Southern\naccent. That was the time when Clara Bow, the It Girl, was the most popular\nmovie star, you know, the Charleston days and all that. Anyway, at first, they\ncalled me Miss Georgia. I almost forgot my name. I didn't realize all the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=720.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things\nthat happened. Like I was there just a few days in class, and a professor had\nasked all the students to write an autobiography. That was a very important\nassignment. I thought it was just an assignment, a regular assignment. He\nactually did that because he was very curious and interested in hearing what a\nSoutherner had to say. Because they all visualized me living on a plantation,\ngoing out and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=750.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"picking cotton. I had never picked cotton in my life. To make a\nlong story short, everybody wrote their autobiography, and then when the, I\ndon't remember how many days passed, but he came to class and he said that he\nhas a paper that he thinks would be so interesting that the entire class, now,\nthis is not in high school. It's already . . . and I didn't catch on to\nanything. That he would like to read it, but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=780.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he would prefer that that person\nread it themselves. I think this is just something that happens every single\nday. I mean, nothing unusual about me, except that to make such a high mark,\nwell, that wasn't even unusual, because I happened to be a good student, as far\nas that goes. Anyway, when he calls my name, I am just flabbergasted, just\nflabbergasted, to come up to the front. Really, I just didn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dream it would be\nme to come up to read the paper. I still don't realize it's because of my\naccent, and also having an autobiography of someone from Georgia. Many, many\nmore have passed through those halls since my day. Anyway, I get up and I read,\nand everyone is hysterical. All the students are laughing. I would stop, and he\nwould say, \"They are laughing not because it's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=840.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"funny but because they are\ngetting such a kick out of your Southern accent.\" It took me I don't know how\nlong to read that autobiography. Anyway, he had put A+ on the thing, and that\nwas all I was interested in, you know, so it didn't bother me. That was a funny\nexperience. Then I had another funny, wasn't funny. I was there about two days,\nand they enrolled some black students. 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I don't know what would have happened if a Jewish\nperson moved to town and was in another business, because the only other Jewish\nfamily that moved in also opened a department store across the street from us.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we had two.\n\nDIAMOND: You felt like that's what Jewish people were supposed to do?\n\nBENAMY: Had no idea Jewish people did anything else. I didn't ever think about\nthose things, see, because it was just natural. You didn't think, period, about\nthose kinds of things in growing up. It was just a natural . . .\n\nDIAMOND: It's just the way it was?\n\nBENAMY: That's right. It was just the way it was. I don't think I ever had a\nquestion in my mind about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"why are you in the dry goods business or anything.\n\nDIAMOND: What happened when they seated that black man next to you?\n\nBENAMY: All right. Then they, it wasn't a man, even. It was a girl, a black\ngirl. I kept sliding over in my seat. They had individual seats, but they were\nvery, very close together. Oh, and I wanted to say about, a mammy raised me,\nraised all of us, cooked for us, everything. I loved her. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Never, and all the\nblack people lived on a separate section in this small town. We had never, never\nassociated with them at all. I mean, there was no black person in my school in\nHawkinsville, Georgia. I don't even know if they had any education or not, had\nany education other than cooking and cleaning and doing the laundry. Of course,\nto ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"do the laundry, my mammy would take once a week all my laundry home to where\nshe lived, and they would use the wash tubs and the scrub board, and it would\nall be hung out on a line to dry in the sun. All I remember about the laundry\nwhen they brought it back, I mean, I can smell it today. It was the most\nwonderful, clean, fresh smell, being sun-dried. 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I had never had the experience of being among white\npeople, I guess I have to describe it that way, and having a black person sit\nnext to me, or even be with me other than in my home taking ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"care of me or the\nfamily. Which also, when I think about it, gosh, I didn't think anything of\nkissing her and everything. When she left our house, that, and I don't know why.\nI can't answer that at all. I just don't know why . . .\n\nDIAMOND: It was very uncomfortable for you in college to have a black sit next\nto you? BENAMY: That's right. I don't know why it was uncomfortable, since I was\nraised by one. I can't answer that. 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Of course, in those days it was nothing like we have today\nwith, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, living in the small town, we never locked our door, never. Our\ndoors were never locked. It was as wide open; no stranger ever came in our\nhouse. No black person ever came when they weren't supposed to be there. There\nwere no thefts. That was just the way we lived. We had a sheriff that never,\nnever, never had to lock up anybody but a white person. 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I only knew\nall these things after I went off to school.\n\nDIAMOND: It was very unusual to go away to school . . .\n\nBENAMY: It was a . . .\n\nDIAMOND: . . . for a girl to be able to do that.\n\nBENAMY: Not only that . . .\n\nDIAMOND: How did you feel about having that privilege?\n\nBENAMY: To me, I didn't think about the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"privilege part. All I thought about is,\noh, I'm going to be meeting Jewish people. I don't know why I would even feel\nthat way, because I loved all my Christian friends. In fact, one of my closest\nfriends, we had always, we started the first grade together. We graduated\ntogether. We always said that we were going to, when we graduated, you know,\nbefore we graduated, that we were going to live in the same town, we were going\nto live ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"together. Whatever we did, we were never going to separate. I mean, we\nsaid those things feeling that way. Then it comes that I believe there was a\nboy, I'm not too sure, who went to Milledgeville to college, outside of me\nleaving that town to go, of all places, Philadelphia. I knew about cities and\nall that, because when we were little, all of ray father's family and my\nmother's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"family lived in all the seaside towns, Asbury Park, New Jersey,\nBelmont, New Jersey, Manasquan, New Jersey, Toms River, New Jersey. Now\nremember, these are also small towns, and they were all on the ocean and all\nlike that. Every year, every summer, we'd drive up and we would visit them. It\nwouldn't be a long stay because we'd travel around the country. My Dad was I\nguess you'd call one of these ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really big-time sports, because we also\ninterrupted a whole year of our lives because when they had a boom in Florida\nwith land and all, well, I'm getting ahead of myself. I mean, I've already\npassed this stage.\n\nDIAMOND: We can go back, too.\n\nBENAMY: All right. I was 13 years old when this happened. I'm the oldest. The\nbrother next to me, we're two years apart. Intervening, I had a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sister before\nthe third child was born. My second brother was born after I lost a sister at\ntwo years old that had meningitis. That reminds me there was no hospital and\nthey had to call an ambulance to go to Macon to take her when she was sick.\nAnyway, he was born after that. He is, he's 14 years younger than I am but we\nmoved. The reason I'm thinking of that, he was a baby, see, when we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1350.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"went to, I\nwas 13.\n\nDIAMOND: He was a baby?\n\nBENAMY: That's right. I was probably close to 14, because he was really a baby.\nWe moved to Tampa. My dad bought an orange grove and all this stuff and invested\nin property that was even, l can't think of the name of that island there in\nTampa, but it happened to all be under water, and he bought, and Coco, Florida,\nwhich is so important today, where they have ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the space program. He's got all\nthis land at the, but I want to tell you, instead of making money, he lost a\nfortune, mainly because we had to come back because he left the store in charge\nwith a man who went in cohorts, some way or another, they worked together with\nthe lady that also worked for my Dad, and just, the business went really under.\nThe banks were closing in those ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"days. Don't forget this was real hard times when\nall this happened. My Dad had been very successful, and he had had money to do\nall this. He was very excited about going and living in Florida a year during\nthis boom and so forth. Now, what made me think of that, I can't remember. I was\nalready off at college. Then we came back, anyway, after a year.\n\nDIAMOND: Did all your family go to Florida?\n\nBENAMY: Oh, yeah.\n\nDIAMOND: Your brothers and your . . .\n\nBENAMY: No, not, because ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my, l lost my mother. She was only 39 at the time. She\nwas real young when she married. I was not quite 19. then I got this baby\nbrother that was, l think he was five years old, I believe. I haven't gotten\nthese figures together. Anyway, I was the oldest. After my parents died, my\nfather died five years later. That was why ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1470.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when I was telling you they died so\nyoung. I wasn't married, of course, when this happened.\n\nDIAMOND: Had you finished college?\n\nBENAMY: I came, no, I had not finished college. You mean when my mother passed away?\n\nDIAMOND: Right. You had just started college?\n\nBENAMY: No. I hadn't just started, because I was about 19, between 18 and 19 or\nsomething. I wanted to tell you what happened at college. I actually finished, I\nmean, finished, but I did something unusual, and I don't know why, but it turned\nout to be the most perfect ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1500.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thing for me to do. I mentioned earlier about being\nthe actress. I'll go back a little bit and say that they had in those days\ntraveling, I don't know exactly what you call them, but they were people that\ntraveled through the small towns and put on shows. Some were musicals and some\nwere plays and so forth. They would come into a town. They did it, for money, of\ncourse. That was the days of Chautauqua, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1530.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too. I'm sure you've heard of the\nChautauqua, haven't you?\n\nDIAMOND: No, I haven't.\n\nBENAMY: I don't know how to explain that to you. That's where things like a\nminstrel show would travel through these small towns.\n\nDIAMOND: Like vaudeville?\n\nBENAMY: Yeah. There'd be no blacks in it. The whites would black up their face\nand perform and stuff. It would be, they'd travel through these towns because,\nafter all, there was no, that kind of recreation. Everybody in the town would\ngo. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You'd have to pay to go, so that's how they made money, these traveling\nactors and actresses.\n\nDIAMOND: That's what it did to you and your friends, was wanting to be one of\nthose actresses?\n\nBENAMY: No. That's the Chautauqua that I described. The other thing was, and the\nacting part didn't really last with anybody. The rest of them wanted to be\nteachers but me, as we got older. This was when we first got organized in the\nGirl Scouts. It didn't last with the others, but it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1590.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"lasted with me. Because when\nthey came to put on those shows, I managed to take the lead in everything.\n\nDIAMOND: You did get to get your dream of wanting to be an actress?\n\nBENAMY: This is before I went to college, now. This is while I'm still in high\nschool. I had, oh, it was just wonderful, because like the last show I played\nin, I think I must have been a senior or at least close to being a senior. They\ncame ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"through to put on a show called Little Miss Bluebonnet, and I was Little\nMiss Bluebonnet. I was so, the reason I get excited when I say this, I was not\nthat outgoing normally. I don't know where in the world except knowing people\nnow who say they were very, very shy. I really wasn't shy, but I don't know how\nI did what I did, to tell you the truth, when I think about it now that it's\nover with. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyway, I would take the lead and just have the most wonderful time.\nThis Little Miss Bluebonnet, the town went wild. We had one barbershop. They put\nsigns all over, Get Your Hair Cut Like Little Miss Bluebonnet. Every store, Do\nThis like Little Miss . . . Wear Clothes . . .\n\nDIAMOND: You were quite a celebrity?\n\nBENAMY: I was a celebrity in my little town. It was under 3000 people. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyway .\n. . DIAMOND: Did that acting experience help you a little later on when you\nstarted to get . . .\n\nBENAMY: When I went off, I expected to really make it in dramatics. Still, when\nI went off to Temple University. You know, the first year, you really don't say\nwhat you are going to do. I mean, you take general subjects and all. The first,\nmy freshman year, I didn't have to worry about what I really was going to major\nin. I was going to, in my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mind, that's what I was going to major in. I don't\nknow where along the line, it happened in my second year, but I don't know that\nI did this also. I believe if we had had a radio that wasn't just static, I know\nif we had television I definitely would have never, never did what I did. While\nI'm going to Temple University, out of a clear blue sky, I decided to attend,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which I had probably heard of this either through my roommates or suite-mates or\nmaybe a cousin, I don't know, that close to the school at that time was a\nwonderful business school called Drexel Institute, which I'm sure is still there\ntoday, but strictly business. I decided while I'm going to Temple that I am also\ngoing to attend this business school. See, no one took typing. We didn't even\nhave a typewriter or know about ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1770.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"typing in Hawkinsville, Georgia, in school, I\nmean. I don't know what made, I didn't even tell my parents. I went and did this\non my own. I decided that I wanted to go and take business, because somehow or\nanother, I guess drama was exiting out of my mind. I can't explain it. I went to\nDrexel also. I was still going to Temple. I went to Drexel. This is in the\nsecond year. That's why I'm saying, I didn't go back to Temple after the second\nyear. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would have, I think, but I don't know, since ray mother had died in the\ninterim and so forth. What was so marvelous, I learned how to type. I loved\nbookkeeping, and I learned all the things that you really take in business. It\nwas, I've always, since I've got any sense or know, I feel like, a fair thing,\nyou know, I'm real fatalist. Anyway, then after I registered and I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1830.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"went a few\ntimes, then I called home to tell what I was doing, because I really didn't know\nif I was going to go and decide not to and everything. When I went off to\ncollege, I must tell you this funny thing, my father went with me to register\nand to see that everything was all right. The second reason he went is, all I\ncould talk about was seeing snow for the first time. I was going to see snow for\nthe first time. Everything I had read about going to college, you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had to have a\nraccoon coat. My Dad says, \"While we're up there, we'll go to the wholesale\nhouse and you'll have yours\", since I was the only girl, I could just think of\nsomething and have it, \"and get you a raccoon coat.\" So, and that he did. The\nfirst snowfall that came, I ran out of this, they didn't have dormitories at\nTemple in those days. They had houses. Like, I had a roommate and two\nsuitemates. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There were like four of us. It was like a suit that we lived in.\nAnyway . . . and they were all from; my roommate was from Pittsburgh, and the\nother two girls were from Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.\n\nDIAMOND: They'd seen snow? They didn't think it was anything unusual?\n\nBENAMY: Oh, and I scream, and I holler when I see the snow coming, \"Where is my\nraccoon coat?\" No one ran out. They just let me go. I'm ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1920.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"footloose and\nfancy-free. I get down to the snow, l don't know that they're all standing,\nlooking at me out the window. All I know is I've got on my raccoon coat and I'm\ngoing into the snow. When we woke up, the snow was, gosh, seems like it was as\nhigh as this chair from the ground, you know. Anyway, it was plenty of snow. I\nrun down and I get in the snow. You know when a child starts to walk how they\nwalk and fall down, and they walk and fall down?\n\nDIAMOND: Yes.\n\nBENAMY: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1950.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I hit that snow and, coat, I had never had on a coat that heavy in my\nlife. I would take a step, if I took a step, and I would fall. Anyway, that\nhappened continually, and I was determined to be able to stand up straight and\nwalk in the snow. I kept falling down like I couldn't walk. Looked like a\nraccoon in the snow. Anyway, something made me look up. After all, they were on\nthe second floor. They are just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=1980.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hysterical, all of them. I've always had a sense\nof humor. I couldn't help but laugh myself. I thought, I've got to get one of\nthem to come down and teach me how to walk in the snow without falling. I kept\nmotioning like this. Anyway, they all came down. I don't know how many hours\nthat we laughed, but they would hold me up now, with this coat on, and I was so\ntiny in this coat, you know what raccoon looks like. I mean, if I'd have\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2010.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"realized, I'd have never wanted a raccoon coat. You couldn't see me at all. All\nyou saw . . . so you know how funny I looked, was this raccoon coat going\nthrough the snow. Anyway, they stayed with me until I could walk in this coat.\nThen they had to stay with me until I learned how to throw snowballs. Anyway,\nthat passed. I had many funny experiences off at college. Then, as I said, I\nwent to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2040.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Drexel Institute. Then when I came back home . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Did you come home because your mother had passed away?\n\nBENAMY: No. I'm trying to think. I think I had come home for summer vacation or\nsome holiday, is when it happened. See, I was in my second year, because I was\nbetween 18 and 19, and I had gone at 16, see. I had finished. I had taken so\nmany months, I don't remember if it was nine months or what, of this Drexel, I\nfinished this business ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2070.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"course completely before I even went home. She passed\naway while I was home. I did not go back after this at all.\n\nDIAMOND: What were you expected to do, staying home, as far as your family obligations?\n\nBENAMY: What was I expected to do? Because of my business course and so forth,\nso my father, after that, sold the store, and Morris Slotin [sp] from Savannah,\nGeorgia, and speaking of Morris Slotin, my father was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2100.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"best man in his wedding.\n\nDIAMOND: I did not know that. You're talking about my grandfather, and I did not\nknow that.\n\nBENAMY: That's right. Anyway, so the Slotins, even though I knew your\ngrandfather and everything like that, I don't know how much older or what, but\nSavannah was quite a distance away from Hawkinsville. It's not anymore. It's\nprobably like from Atlanta now to Savannah. You must remember ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2130.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about these\ndistances. Even a train didn't come, l came home by train, but I had to get, a\ntrain went to Cochran, Georgia, which was ten miles from Hawkinsville, where\nthey met me. There wasn't a train that came to Hawkinsville, Georgia. You had to\ntravel by car, really, everywhere, which was wonderful when the weather was\ngood. You never knew . . . because these are clay roads and all. They had to\nwait until they were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"paved and so forth. Anyway, I knew your grandfather and\nyour grandmother way before I knew anybody else in the family. I know your\nmother is a lot younger than I am. When you're older, a few years makes no\ndifference, but when you're, you know, around my age and somebody's 13 and I'm\n16, or they're 12 and they're 9, it's just a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2190.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"big difference.\n\nDIAMOND: Tell me what happened when your father sold the business to . . .\n\nBENAMY: He sold to Morris Slotin. I was getting back to your grandfather. He\ncalled him and, l don't know if he called him or what. Anyway, they\ncommunicated. He bought the store. He sent a relative over to run it. My father\nopened, which I have clippings from and all, a dress shop called the Style Shop.\nIt was put in the newspaper as ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2220.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"run by Rose Levinson. He would go and do the\nbuying, and I ran the business. Because after all, my youngest brother was a\nbaby, and I had the other brother. He was grown, but I mean he went to school\nfor a couple of years in Cochran, Georgia where they had, I don't know what you\ncall these colleges. Like Dekalb College.\n\nDIAMOND: A junior college?\n\nBENAMY: A junior college and so forth. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2250.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He went there. Then later on, of course,\nwhen I got married and moved to Atlanta, my younger brother came with me to\nAtlanta and went to GMA.\n\nDIAMOND: Let me ask you this. That leads us to our next topic of conversation.\nThere you were running the Style Shop in Hawkinsville.\n\nBENAMY: That's right.\n\nDIAMOND: How in the world did you meet Sol Benamy?\n\nBENAMY: Oh, how I met Sol Benamy. First of all, after I came back, before I met\nSol Benamy, we are ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2280.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"now, the grown-ups and the younger ones are going . . . which\nI wasn't interested in, but I did drive one day. I drove to Eastman on a Sunday\nto take my dad and, l don't remember if I just took my dad. I really don't\nremember if my other brothers or somebody else went in the car with us. The\nadults, by now, all the adults would get together on Sunday, and the children\nwould get together. Now, this happened, I'd say maybe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2310.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about the time I went off\nto college, when they started being able to travel and get together.\n\nDIAMOND: These are the Jewish adults in the small towns?\n\nBENAMY: The Jewish, yeah, from all the neighboring towns, would get together.\nAnyway, I . . .\n\nDIAMOND: What would they do, just socialize?\n\nBENAMY: They would socialize. The adults . . . the men would play poker and the\nwomen would visit with each other, and if they played cards or bridge or\nanything, whatever they did, but everybody did something. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2340.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, even if some\nof them played cards, the others visited. Then the boys and girls, if they were\na dancing age, we'd go to Dublin, Georgia. I'm sure you know Shirley Reisman.\nHer sister . . .\n\nBENAMY: I did mention that while I'm off at Temple, it wasn't a matter of just\ngoing to school. I was dating boys in Jewish ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2370.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fraternities. It was just a whole\nnew world for me. My social life, I mean, was, it was just unbelievable. I would\nalter my accent, because everybody was just dying to be my . . . they wanted to\ndate me.\n\nDIAMOND: They wanted to hear you talk?\n\nBENAMY: That's right. They just loved, and I'm sure you even have experienced,\neven in this late date, how some people just adore hearing a Southerner talk. In\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2400.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"those days, it was, as I said, I felt like I was the It Girl, the Clara Bow. It\ndidn't go to my head, because I was well aware of what all the commotion was\nabout. When I first arrived in Philadelphia, naturally I didn't, I was as naive,\nI don't even think naive could even exemplify how I was. Country, country,\ncountry. I don't know how to explain it.\n\nDIAMOND: What ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2430.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I want to know is how you met Sol.\n\nBENAMY: I know you want to know that. It's leading up to meeting this boy in\nEastman, Georgia, from Macon, Georgia. I was not interested at all in talking\nabout all the dances that were going on now, the dance in Macon, Georgia. They\nhad a club called the Rocket Club and so forth and so on. They had a group in\nAugusta, Georgia, see, I had left all these people and this, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2460.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I had aged about\nprobably, I don't know, but I felt, I just didn't feel like I had anything in\ncommon anymore.\n\nDIAMOND: You felt a lot more cosmopolitan?\n\nBENAMY: Right. I was brushing everything aside and so forth and so on. Of\ncourse, it didn't take me long to get, I don't remember if it was, I got talked\ninto the Macon dance, no. Yeah, it was. At one of the dances . . . first, before\nI went to a Macon dance, I came to the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2490.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"old Progressive Club that used to be on\nthe southside of town, and I would come up and I would come to the Progressive\nClub dances, and I had some friends here, and I'd either spend a weekend, or I\nwould go back the next day after the dance and so forth. There was a club in\nAugusta, Georgia and Macon, Georgia and so forth where all the young people were\ngetting together and dancing. I am at a dance in Augusta, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2520.0,2550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgia. They came\nfrom all over. I mean . . . so anyway, a friend of, I knew this fellow who was a\ndentist from Columbia, South Carolina. You may know or have heard of the Berry\nfamily from Macon, Georgia. I don't know if you did or not. Anyway, his name was\nLou Berry. There is a fellow that is taking a date to Savannah, that's funny. I\ndidn't realize it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2550.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"until this moment. He was taking her to an affair in Savannah,\nGeorgia from Charlotte, North Carolina, to give you an idea how this traveling\nbusiness was going on. She said, \"There's a big dance in Augusta, Georgia. How\nabout let's stopping on the way, because you're going that way,\" or \"It isn't\nfar out of the way.\" I don't know what she said. He said, \"Fine.\" He was at this\ndance in Augusta, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2580.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgia. I, by that time, was already going practically steady\nwith a boy from Hacon. This, and he was a friend of this Lou Berry. He says to\nthis Lou Berry, he pointed me out in some way on the dance floor, and he says,\n\"I want you to introduce me to her, because that's the girl I'm going to marry.\"\nThis is exactly . . .\n\nDIAMOND: You're talking about Sol?\n\nBENAMY: Sol. I'm skipping everything right to Sol. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2610.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyway, I'm dancing. In those\ndays, you broke on everybody, break dance, you know. I don't really know, think\nthere was a period where you didn't do that. Anyway, he broke on me and had Lou\nBerry stand beside him, of course, to introduce him. I, see, am so upset,\nbecause I am practically engaged to a six-foot-taller, and here is this ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2640.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"little\nfellow, same height as I am, breaking on me. I am enjoying the dance so much\nuntil he comes. I had manners enough to not do anything about it but go ahead\nand let him break. I'm dancing with him, and I said, \"Where are you from?\" I\ndon't remember the exact conversation. He said Chicago. I have to tell you this\nbecause it's funny. I said, \"Chicago? The only people I've heard of in Chicago\nare gangsters.\" You ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2670.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know, a Chicago gangster. He explained he was not a gangster\nand such and such. Soon after that, somebody else broke, thank goodness. Anyway,\nto cut out a lot of things that happened, after the dance was over, he wanted to\nknow if I'd have a late date. Now, a lot of people in those days did have a late\ndate. I was not interested. Even if it was someone I might have ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2700.0,2730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wanted to, I\nwould not have done it because, as I said, I'm practically married, going to be\nmarried to this fellow. In fact, everybody in South Georgia knew that. Anyway,\nSol would not leave me alone. The next thing that happened, and I think it was\nabout a week later, maybe it wasn't. Maybe it was longer, but I doubt it. I am\ngoing to a dance in Macon, Georgia. This ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2730.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fellow I'm dating at the time lives in\nMacon and still does. We . . . at the dance, I'm dancing on the floor again, and\nwho should come to this dance and break on me but Sol. As soon as he does, I\ndon't have to worry, because the fellow I'm dancing with knows me and I know\nthem well enough, and over the shoulder I motion like this, Come quick,\npractically. I just kept ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2760.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"every time he'd break, somebody, I'd hardly get a step,\nand somebody would keep breaking and all like that. To make this particular\ndance, to stress, afterwards we would all go to a restaurant to eat. We're at\nthis restaurant and Sol is at this restaurant. He comes over to the table and he\nsays, \"Excuse me, but I would like to introduce you to my brother and\nsister-in-law.\" He tells me that they drove down from ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2790.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta. Of course, my\ndate is about to die. He wants me to get up and go to their table. Anyway, I get\nup and I go to the table, and I keep thinking what, I probably didn't say\nchutzpah to myself then. I don't know why. How much nerve can you have? He's\njust taking me so for granted. He's bringing his whole family down to meet me,\nand I won't even dance with him. I meet them. Remember, I don't know that he\ntells this Lou Berry that, \"That's the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2820.0,2850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"girl I'm going to marry.\" Okay. I go. I\ndon't know how much time elapses. I was a I so . . . because I at that time was\nthe only one, I think in town, that probably had an education in business, was\nhelping the tax collector. I am coming home one afternoon from the courthouse.\nAs I'm walking this \"Toot-toot, toot-toot,\" car with a million different horns\nblowing at me. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2850.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Also, remember I had on a red suit. I didn't want to really turn,\nbut I did, and I see this guy, and its Sol. He don't know where I live, so he's\nslowing horns and walking, I mean, and driving right . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Driving behind you walking?\n\nBENAMY: Right. That's right. I'm on the street and he's blowing these crazy\nhorns and driving along beside me. I stop when I get to the house, and I open\nthe gate. He ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2880.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"parks the car, and he runs out of the car. He wants to help me\nopen; we had a fence around the house, open the gate. I don't remember my words;\nexcept I was so disgusted. I thought, How I am going to get rid of this fellow?\nIn the meantime, he had a chain photographic studio, he and his brother, Bonart\n[sp] Studios. They had them all over the country. He was in the photographic\nbusiness. He ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2910.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said something to me about being so aloof or something. He'd like\nto meet, I guess he found out that my mother wasn't living. He probably found\nout everything. He wanted to meet my dad. Anyway, I reluctantly let him come to\nthe house. I figured I will let him spend as much time as I possibly can\nwithout, with my dad and not with me and my dad. We lived in a two-story home. I\nwent upstairs and I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2940.0,2970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stayed, and I stayed, and I stayed. I finally came down, and\nhe tells me that my dad invited him for dinner. This is in the afternoon when\nthis happened. Oh, I was so upset at my dad. Okay. He stayed for dinner. Then,\nhe really visited with my dad. I couldn't get over how my father and he acted\nlike lifelong friends. To make a long story short, after he leaves, oh. He was\ngoing from Hawkinsville to Columbus, Georgia because he had a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=2970.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"studio in\nColumbus. I just can't tell you how much I'm cutting out. Anyway, my dad said,\n\"That is a wonderful fellow,\" and he starts talking about Sol and all. It so\nhappened that Sol was born in Russia. He came here, well, as a teenager. He had\ngone to the university in Vienna [Austria], and then his parents, they left\nduring the, really, to keep from getting into ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3000.0,3030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Army there during the\nrevolution and all like that. It was Kovkol [sp] at the time. He had uncles that\nlived in Chicago, and that's how the Chicago part . . . because when they\nsettled in America, they settled in Chicago originally. At this time that I met\nhim, he lived in Charlotte, North Carolina. That's why he was taking this girl\nfrom Charlotte to Savannah. Anyway, my ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3030.0,3060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"father was so impressed, he just wouldn't\nquit talking about him, and there was just nothing that I was going to do. I\nfinally said, \"I couldn't marry him because all our children would be ducks.\"\nThere's a reason I'm telling you this. Anyway, all kind of underhanded things\nwent on. My daddy finally approached me, and he says, \"You really have to leave\nHawkinsville. It's no place for you at your age. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3060.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sol would love for you to come\nand be a receptionist and work in Atlanta in the photographic studio.\" He says,\n\"And you don't have to worry about me, and you don't have to worry about Henry.\"\nThat's my youngest brother. \"You absolutely must go and take advantage of this\njob,\" and so forth. I said, \"Never.\" I said, \"I will never get rid of him.\" He\nsays, \"No. He told me that if you would come and work in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3090.0,3120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta\", see, he lived\nin Atlanta. He just traveled around to all these places they had studios. \"That\nhe never dates anyone that works for him.\" I said, \"No, I can't leave.\" I really\nfelt like, regardless of Sol, that I just could not leave my daddy. My other\nbrother was already away working in Eastman, Georgia with Meyer Kaplan [sp],\nthat you might know. I don't know. See, these people are so much older. The\nreason I mention names is you might ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3120.0,3150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have heard the name, even without knowing.\nAnyway, so there was no one home but my dad and my little brother. I really felt\nlike I couldn't. How can I leave the Style Shop? He says, \"We'll sell the Style\nShop.\" He would just do anything to get, because there was no future for me in\nHawkinsville, Georgia, as far as that goes, in his mind. I wasn't even giving it\na thought, because I was having fun going around to all these ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3150.0,3180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"places to the\ndances anyway. I . . .\n\nDIAMOND: You had the business?\n\nBENAMY: That's right. I wasn't, I really, and I had a boyfriend, who is lovely,\nand was, and so forth and so on. Anyway, he just, Sol would not let anything go.\nThere was also, which your parents know, and your mother particularly, a fellow\nnamed Blumenthal. Can't think of his first name, but your mother would certainly\nknow ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3180.0,3210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"him, because he spent a lot of time in Savannah and knows all your family\nand so forth and so on. Although, he was living in New York. He knew all, your\ngrandfather particularly, if he didn't know anybody else there. Anyway, somehow\nor another, he was in Atlanta, and Sol would use any means at that time to do\nanything to get anybody to help get me to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3210.0,3240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Atlanta. He was . . . there is no one,\nwas no on, so persistent and everything. In fact, the things that he went\nthrough, I don't know how he even put up with me at all. I'll never understand\nthat. Through his persistence, anyway, he got this fellow underhandedly like to\ncome and talk to me and so forth and so on. Anyway, no one could talk me into\ngoing. Then I get a telegram, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3240.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and this was from Sol. He made it like how he\nreally needed me in the studio because someone had . . . they didn't have, and\nthey couldn't find. I didn't know the first thing about photography or anything,\nand it was going to be a receptionist job, and it would only take an hour for\nsomeone to explain what all . . . anyway, the biggest telegram you ever saw in\nyour life, and to please come up and so forth and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3270.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so on. It was . . . and\nemphasizing again that anyone that works for him, he does not date, socialize. I\ndon't remember the words. Anyway, it was making it like I could just have a\nwonderful position. Of course, my dad was working with him all the time about\neverything. My dad says, \"We'll go.\" I said, \"I don't even have a place to\nstay.\" I certainly wouldn't stay with . . . at that time, the Mendel . . . I was\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3300.0,3330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very good friends with the Mendel family. I know you've heard of them. The twins\nand Marion and Dorothy and Sylvia and all are the ones that are my age. Sylvia,\nof course, would have wanted me to come and live with them. They lived on\nBriarcliff Road in a tremendous house. Just live with them and be in Atlanta and\ngo to work. I would not think of that. Neither would my dad. He says, \"We'll go\nup and we'll find you a place to stay.\" Anyway, I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3330.0,3360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"don't remember how much\nurging, but so much urging and so much went on before I ever went to Atlanta.\nFinally, I get to Atlanta. My Macon friend has to come up to Atlanta on weekends\nto see me. In the meantime, I'll skip all the goings-on. What is Dr. Pepper now?\n10, 2 and 4. I'm in the studio, I'm already working, and I'm really enjoying the\njob. It was lovely. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3360.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At 10, 2 and 4, without seeing Sol, delivered to me were\nsmall packages of Hershey Kisses, in the studio, would arrive, these little\nsilver bell Hershey Kisses, at 10, 2 and 4, every single day. No word, he has\nnot bothered me. I have not talked to him. I'm going about my business . . .\n\nDIAMOND: You were courted, is what you were. You were courted.\n\nBENAMY: Yes. Then time passes, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3390.0,3420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there was going to be a show at the Erlanger\nTheater. The most prominent, they have passed. Who was the couple that was actor\nand actresses on the stage, always together? I mean, they acted together always,\nand superb. Anyway, they were in a play in Atlanta, and it was the Erlanger\nTheater. It was a rare treat to be able to go see them. I get a telephone call\nthat, it's from ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3420.0,3450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sol, that he bought two tickets for us to go see . . . I'm\ndisgusted with my mind that I can't remember the couple's name and all. I, very\nugly, said, \"You'll have to get somebody else because I already have a date.\" My\ndate, by the way, I know you've heard his name, is Sidney Parks. He's a lawyer.\nHe was very, very active in AZA [Aleph Zadik Aleph]. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3450.0,3480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This was, he was going to\nbe elected president of either a legion or the chapter, something special, and\nhe was my date to go with them. Even if I didn't have a special date, I would\nhave still said, \"You've got a lot of nerve. You'll have to use the tickets with\nsomebody else.\" Anyway, he could not believe that anybody would ever refuse to\ngo see this play. Because I don't even know ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3480.0,3510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anyone that would have had the\nopportunity . . . none of my acquaintances or friends would have had the\nopportunity to go see this couple. I'm, it could be the king and queen; it\nmattered not. I didn't go. Anyway, this courtship is too long to tell you all\nthe different things that he went through before I actually got engaged. You\nknow the rest, but . . .\n\nDIAMOND: I might know the rest, but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3510.0,3540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not really. I know that you all got married.\nWhat year did you get married?\n\nBENAMY: 1935.\n\nDIAMOND: I might know the rest, but the Oral History Project doesn't know the rest.\n\nBENAMY: I mean, the rest is just about the different things that he went through\nbefore I finally came around, and how terrible I was and the terrible things I\ndid, which really would have nothing to do with history, except the only thing,\nafter we married, since I mentioned about the ducks . . .\n\nDIAMOND: What made you change your mind? Was it one thing?\n\nBENAMY: I got, yes, it was one thing ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3540.0,3570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that made me, a big thing that made me\nchange my mind. First of all, I got the flu. While I had the flu, I had a dream\nabout my mother. I get chills when I think about it. I see her for the first\ntime since she had passed away. In the dream, I really get chills talking about\nthis. She had said in some manner or some way in this dream that you must marry\nSol Benamy.\n\nDIAMOND: Oh.\n\nBENAMY: Anyway, I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3570.0,3600.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wake up in the morning and I didn't want to call him, so I\nwrote a note, and I wanted to know if I could see him that night. Of course, he\ncould hardly wait until night. He came. I had to talk to him about something. I\ndidn't tell him about the dream or anything. Oh, he knew I was sick, because he\nhad been calling and asking, because after all, I worked for him. I'm sick in\nbed. He had come that afternoon ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3600.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before the dream and brought me, I've forgotten\nflowers or what. Anyway, he made a call to the sick. I was staying, by the way,\nwith the Hellman's, which I don't think you would have heard of. They happened\nto be, Rabbi Epstein married us, and he was really on, he was a newlywed\nhimself, which might be of interest to him, since he is now the honorary rabbi,\nreally, I mean, been here over 60 years. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3630.0,3660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What was I saying?\n\nDIAMOND: You sent a note to Sol.\n\nBENAMY: Oh. I sent a note, and after he came that afternoon, I didn't say it to\nhim, because I hadn't, not that afternoon. It was the next afternoon. I hadn't\nbeen asleep yet. That night is when I had this dream. The next day I wrote this\nnote, and I don't remember who was going to the studio, but that was why I wrote\nthe note, so they could give him the note, or at least give ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3660.0,3690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it to someone at the\nstudio who would call him to come by. He wouldn't even come visit that studio,\nhe was so afraid that I'd leave and go home, because he wasn't going to date\nanyone at work, you know. That didn't mean that he didn't keep in touch in all\nkinds of ways.\n\nDIAMOND: Interesting way.\n\nBENAMY: Very interesting ways. Anyway, I sent him the note, and as soon as he\ngot the note, which seemed immediately, he called and wanted to know what time\ncould he come by and so forth and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3690.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so on. When he came by, I don't know what made\nme, but I apologized for the way I behaved, and if he still wanted to make a\ndate or something like that, I don't really remember how it went about. That's\nhow I started dating. As soon as I started dating him . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Did you ever tell him?\n\nBENAMY: Soon as I started dating him, no, I never told him about the dream. In\nfact, when I was telling you, I just . . .\n\nDIAMOND: [indistinct: 01:02:26]\n\nBENAMY: Yeah. Anyway, and another thing, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3720.0,3750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to tell people something like that, it\nsounds like, I don't know. It just, it was just so unusual for me that it's hard\nto even talk about it.\n\nDIAMOND: As soon as you started dating,\n\nBENAMY: I started, as soon as I told him about starting dating, he calls me the\nnext afternoon to go, he wanted to take me by where he lived, which happened to\nbe in the Morningside section of Atlanta. I know you know where that is. He\nlived in a home there. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3750.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Before, when he came to visit Macon and see me and all,\nhe was living with his brother and their family in Atlanta, but by now, he had\nmoved into a home by himself. He wanted me to come by and take me by his house,\nbecause he had something to show me. Okay. I went by his house. Listen, now I'm\nforgetting everything. I've got to marry him. I just had nothing else in my\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3780.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mind. You can imagine what happened to the fellow that was, and his whole family\nwas expecting us to get married in Macon, Georgia. I won't go through all that,\nof course. Anyway, I go to his house, and he brings out this ring that I've got\non my finger that he had gotten for our engagement. I hadn't had but that one\ndate deal.\n\nDIAMOND: Oh, my.\n\nBENAMY: Everything about it was just very, very, so I'm still ugly to the point\nabout, \"You couldn't have bought it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3810.0,3840.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for me.\" I says, \"I don't know whose ring it\nis or anything, but it couldn't be for me.\" There was no way it could be for me,\nbecause I wasn't having anything to do with him. He said, \"I did buy it for you.\nI knew that we were going to get married, no matter how many times you refused,\nhow ugly you acted. I don't remember all. It was like, it was almost like him\nknowing that my mother told me to marry ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3840.0,3870.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"him. Very, very-ended very, very\nstrange. I could never, now that we're married. Let me get back to, when we were\nmarried, we lived the first year in Greensboro, North Carolina. We had a studio\nthere. We lived there the first year because he had photographers and help that,\nbefore he was married, in fact, his brother Joe stayed in Atlanta all the time,\nand Sol, being a bachelor, because he was really nine and a half years older\nthan I was, did all the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3870.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"traveling around the studios and checking and seeing\nabout the help and everything that you have to do. That's why the first year we\nwere married we lived in Greensboro, North Carolina, because he was going to\nstay there for the year that he was married, and he had new help in the studio\nand so forth and so on. He was not going to any other studio, wasn't even going\nto leave.\n\nDIAMOND: He found a way not to travel and to be with you?\n\nBENAMY: Right. We lived ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3900.0,3930.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there, and the first letter I get from my father, after\nall, my mother never knew him. My father was at least alive when Freddie was\nborn, my firstborn. Right after the bris, he died. Anyway, the first letter,\nwhich I of course still have, from my father, and when I say \"of course,\" I used\nto keep, which was unusual. Unusual things happened to me in my whole youth,\nanyway. I kept my mother's first haircut. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3930.0,3960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She had long hair. I've got her hair,\nwhen I was just a child. Her hair was just full of ringlets. When it was long,\nit was just pulled back, and it made such a drastic change. When she was getting\nher hair cut, I was with her, and I picked up every lock. No one, I'm sure, at\nmy age would have even given it a thought to do. Strange things. I still have\nher hair and so forth. I kept many, many, many ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3960.0,3990.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"scrapbooks. Of course, I have\nabout, since Sol's life was so active and the things, he did so prominent and\neverything, I must have ten that's covered with all of his activities. That's\nwhy when you said with me, what did I have to offer except the children. Of\ncourse, knowing his wife, but . . .\n\nDIAMOND: How did you support him in those many . . .\n\nBENAMY: Oh, I was . . . there was nothing that I didn't support. I'll tell you\nabout that in a minute. I want to tell you about this ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=3990.0,4020.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"first letter from my father.\n\nDIAMOND: Oh, okay.\n\nBENAMY: My father, the first letter I get when we get settled in Greensboro,\nstarts off, \"Dear Children, Are there any ducks on the way?\"\n\nDIAMOND: Oh, that's . . .\n\nBENAMY: Then I had to explain, here I had gone, my first remark about ever\nmarrying him to my father was \"I could never marry him, because if we had any\nchildren, they'd all be ducks.\" Wasn't that funny?\n\nDIAMOND: You had to explain this letter to . . .\n\nBENAMY: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4020.0,4050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To Sol.\n\nDIAMOND: Like you say, you save things. I saved a book when my mother broke up\nhousekeeping that's called Our Story . . . Atlanta. I saw Sol's picture.\n\nBENAMY: That book sits right there.\n\nDIAMOND: I was just, I don't know what brought it to mind, but I knew I was\ngoing to do this interview with you, Sol was very active in reclaiming Israel\nand . . .\n\nBENAMY: Right. When we got married, I really did not know a thing about Hadassah\nor Zionism. I mean, none of that, even in the year that I went to college, like\nI said, like I had not heard of antisemitism, and actually, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4050.0,4080.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me with this black\ngirl sitting next to me, boy, it wasn't antisemitism, but, boy, I was a racist\nas far as the blacks were concerned, but I didn't know it. I mean, and I didn't\nfeel that way. I had to have something that made me cringe. Anyway, I didn't\nfinish when I had this black person sitting. I'd get up out of my seat, and I go\nto speak, there was a professor at that time in the room, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4080.0,4110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I tell him that I\nhave to be moved. I said, \"You have to move my seat.\" He says, \"What do you\nmean, I have to move your seat?\" I said, \"You put that black girl by me.\" \"So\nwhat about it?\" I said, \"I just can't sit by a black girl.\" He says, \"You're\ngoing to sit by a black girl in this class, and any other class.\" I don't\nremember the lecture I got and all, but I mean, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4110.0,4140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he says, \"You just go back, and\nyou sit down,\" so forth and so on. Anyway, that's how, and that's how I stayed,\nand that's how it happened. I did go up, that's how it affected me. I can't\ngive, I mean, I can't imagine, I did not know a thing about . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Racism.\n\nBENAMY: How could I when I'm having this black woman who means everything to me\ncooking at least your food, and didn't want to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4140.0,4170.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sit by one? Now, I can never\nexplain that. That's how we all . . .\n\nDIAMOND: I guess that's how you were raised.\n\nBENAMY: That's right. That's in growing up in this town. It would never happen\nin a city, even back then, I'm sure. The person might not sit by them, but\nthey'd get up and move or get out of the way. It's the same idea of having a\nseparate water fountain for the blacks, you know, anyway, and not riding on the\nbus. That's in more recent ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4170.0,4200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years. You can imagine talking about way over 50\nyears ago, 60.\n\nDIAMOND: You said that you had not been exposed to things like Hadassah . . .\n\nBENAMY: Yeah. getting back to my husband. It turns out, my husband's first\nquestion, soon after we were married, I don't even if we had really got on our\nhoneymoon. Yeah, that's right, because we were back in Greensboro, North\nCarolina. He bought a home right away, and he was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4200.0,4230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not wealthy, really wasn't\nwealthy, but he was not poor, but he was financially able to buy a home on a\npayment plan. You know what I mean. Because very few people in those days got\nmarried, I had never lived in an apartment in my life, even up until just\nrecently, just one time before here, before moving here. Before moving here, I\nwasn't in an apartment, but I moved until we moved ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4230.0,4260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"into the condo that he built.\nIt was my first experience of living in an apartment anyway. Getting back to the\nZionist part, his first question to me then, of course, I knew about Palestine\nand things, of course, different from when I started with my childhood. I had no\nidea that his whole life, practically, was wrapped up in making, having a Jewish\nstate, and working for a Jewish ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4260.0,4290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"state. He said to me, \"How would you like to\nlive,\" I remember it was Palestine then. It was not . . .\n\nDIAMOND: It was before the state of Israel?\n\nBENAMY: That's right, before the state of Israel. He said, \"How would you feel\nif we moved to Palestine?\" My answer was, \"Well, fine. When are we going?\" I\nmean, I'm very flippant, really didn't, and he said, \"No. I was thinking that on\nour next wedding anniversary, giving you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4290.0,4320.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a set of luggage that\", I've forgotten\nwhat, \"to go to Palestine. Later on, I really want to live there, but only after\nwe have the Jewish state.\" He was positive there'd be a Jewish state and all. I\ndon't remember the stuff and all, but it never sank in too much. That was one of\nthe first questions he asked me, and I still didn't, he just gradually . . . I\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4320.0,4350.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"guess it just gradually happened to me. I became just as devoted to the cause as\nyou could possibly be. It so happened; I knew very little also about my father's\nfamily. Everyone but him, he had all of his brothers, he had four brothers who\nhad moved and who, and Sol of course had family. In fact, I'll tell you about a\nfirst cousin of his that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4350.0,4380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they went on their honeymoon to settle, and still live\nin Mount Carmel in Haifa. I did not know that I had all these cousins in\nPalestine. My father's brother's children, two, one was named Abraham and one\nwas named Gershon. They were very prominent people in Palestine and in the state\nof Israel. Gershon Levinson was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4380.0,4410.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"head of the Histadrut, one of the Labor parties.\nThe other one was really an author and very cultured and so forth and so on. Of\ncourse, that came later. Right in the beginning, it was so gradual. Then after\nthe first year that we lived there, and Zionism of course was never a popular\ncause. 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The first couple that really, we were so close to them was Bert and Bob\nTravis, which I know you know of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4440.0,4470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them, anyway. Both of them were, their whole\nlife, well, their whole life could only be wrapped up in one thing, where my\nhusband was also wholly wrapped up in it, but he was also community-minded. Her\nhusband traveled. He sold buttons. We lived here. He wouldn't have had the time\nto really be active in community life. My husband was also on the Democratic\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4470.0,4500.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"committee in the city of Atlanta, reelected year after year after year. He was\nin a lot of other activities. His main goal in life was to see that we had a\nJewish state. There was always, like he courted me, there was an ultimate reason\nthat he would become friends with someone of prominence and all, to convert them\nto being a Zionist. Christians, I'm ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4500.0,4530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"talking about, Christian people. I have\npictures of him with . . . who's now deceased, with he and the president of\nOglethorpe University, he and Ralph McGill. When Ralph McGill first came here,\nhe got in with Ralph McGill, and they were close. He was the instigator to get\nMayor Hartsfield to make the trip to Israel and become a real . . . all these\nthat ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4530.0,4560.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he became close to really became Zionists, and these are Christians, which\nhe had to do the same thing and work harder with Jews than he did really with\nthe Christians.\n\nDIAMOND: Did you have a part . . .\n\nBENAMY: My part was being hostess to gathering after gathering after gathering,\nwhich was like a study group meeting. I called them study group meetings. They\nwere social. I mean but inviting all ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4560.0,4590.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"these people. There was never a boy from\nIsrael that went to Georgia Tech that, our home was their home. We would have\none of those boys at least included in the beginning in every little circle of\nfriends that were at our house. There was an ultimate reason behind every single\none of those. I mean, I'm not talking about when I'd have like Mayfair ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4590.0,4620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Club\npeople, which were friends, too, and plenty of Zionists belonged. That's why I\nsaid it's like a different set of friends. Every time a speaker came to Atlanta,\nAbba Eban, I'm sure you've heard of him way before. All these people, I've got\nautographed books and letters from all these prominent people that, in those\ndays, I didn't even know would turn out to be prominent people. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4620.0,4650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was the,\nand going, of course, to all the meetings, which I got fed up plenty of times,\nand I'd say, \"Oh, not again.\" I mean, I never once said anything against his\ncause. Then I remember one specific thing that scared really the daylights out\nof me. Do you recognize the word Haggadah?\n\nDIAMOND: Yes.\n\nBENAMY: Reuven Daphne [sp] was a young fellow that came over, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4650.0,4680.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he came to\nthis country solely to find a man in every community that would help get arms\nand get arms over to Israel.\n\nDIAMOND: For the Israeli Army?\n\nBENAMY: Right, right. Of course, who was the guy in Atlanta, was Sol. It was to\nbe a big, big secret, big secret. There was only three people at that time that\n. . . Sol went with him. I didn't know this in the beginning, either. He was at\nour house, and he stayed at our house until he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4680.0,4710.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"left for different towns. Would\ngo around, and I thought he was going with Sol to get the neighboring towns, all\nthe Jewish people, to join the ZOA or something else. I did not know what he was\ndoing. Finally, he kept going and coming, and then I, listen, I was no dummy,\nand I'd hear them say something. I don't remember how it happened, but one time\nI said, \"I don't know what all this secret business is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4710.0,4740.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about, but you're not\ndoing what I thought you were doing. You have to tell me what's going on.\" They\ntell me, and they tell me I must never . . . because it really is something not\nonly dangerous, it's not supposed to be done, so forth. They've got to have\nthese weapons over there, or they'll all be demolished. That's what he was going\nwith Reuven Daphne to the Jewish people in different towns that could help\neither with the ammunition, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4740.0,4770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"get it, or with the money for them, this Reuven\nDaphne to do it, which was loaded, I think, out of New York, and maybe some from\nSavannah. I don't know all the details of how it got there. That's how the\nIsraelis ever got their army in the beginning.\n\nDIAMOND: Were you working during this time in the business, or had you retired?\n\nBENAMY: Oh, no. Oh, no. I had never,\n\nDIAMOND: After you got married?\n\nBENAMY: After I got married, I only ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4770.0,4800.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"went when a girl didn't show up and so\nforth. I wanted to, but he didn't want me to. I had learned, naturally, the\nbusiness. Whenever they needed me, I would work. Now, the year I lived in\nGreensboro, North Carolina was really like living in a resort, because I played\ngolf every day and did all those kinds of things, except when I was needed in\nthe studio. It wasn't a regular . . .\n\nDIAMOND: How did you feel about being the woman of the house where all of this\nsecretive information was going on?\n\nBENAMY: I was scared to death ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4800.0,4830.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when I found out what it was. Now, that didn't\nhappen when I was talking about the gatherings. That was just to become members\nof the Zionist organization.\n\nDIAMOND: This was during the time . . .\n\nBENAMY: This was during the time that they had to have these guns and\neverything. They were right in not telling me, because I wasn't concerned one\nbit about any danger. After I found out how dangerous it was, and Sol is a\nnaturalized citizen ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4830.0,4860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"yet, if they had gotten caught, if anybody had got wind of\nit, any antisemite could have really thrown the whole deal.\n\nDIAMOND: Did you try to talk him out of it?\n\nBENAMY: No. I just remember saying, \"Gosh, I'm sorry I know.\" I remember saying that.\n\nDIAMOND: Did you ever get to visit Palestine or the state of I srae1?\n\nBENAMY: Oh, I went to the first World Zionist Congress, which was held in\nJerusalem in 1951 before there was ever any roads. All the old people were\nworking, building roads . . .\n\nDIAMOND: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4860.0,4890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an interview with Rose Levinson Benamy for the American Jewish\nCommittee and the Council of Jewish Women's Jewish Women of Achievement Oral\nHistory Project. This is Margery Diamond in Mrs. Benamy's home on Monday,\nNovember 18, 1985. This is our second interview, tape 2, side A. I thought we'd\nstart the interview today with asking Rose how you remember your first visit to\nIsrael in 1951 for the World Zionist Congress.\n\nBENAMY: Actually, outside of being in shock to really arrive at a place that I\nhad been hearing about so constantly all of my married life, it was just as I\nhad expected, because we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4890.0,4920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had had so many Israelis at our home. Living with a man\nwho just lived Israel, it was just what I expected. It was exciting and it was\nthrilling. I didn't feel, I felt like I had come home, truthfully. It was just,\nit's hard to put in words. One thing I can never describe were the evenings in\nIsrael, that when you looked up at the sky, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4920.0,4950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the stars, I didn't realize we had\nstars in America. They all seemed like lights, individual lights shining down\nfrom the heavens, that you were as close to heaven as you could possibly be.\nThat fascinated me more than anything, because the people and the land and\neverything I had expected as it was. The only thing also that was, well, you\njust couldn't imagine that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4950.0,4980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"old, real old, people that could hardly walk, and\nyoungsters that could hardly walk, learning to walk, were building the roads and\ndoing things of that nature. To think that all of that, after you have your\nfirst trip at those early years, and then to go back and see another Miami or\nsomething like that with all the modern structures and so forth. It was really,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=4980.0,5010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it was a heart-rendering sight, because some of the people were so old, and they\nwere lifting heavy rocks, stones, doing their part to build that homeland. They\ndidn't have any tractors and those kind of things over there at that time. The\ncities were built up, but these are out on, you know, roads, so that you could\ngo from one little country place to another. It was just something. Another\nthing that was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5010.0,5040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"unbelievable, and it felt like a dream that I was witnessing, was\nthat these refugees were coming into Haifa at the port there, and they were all\non the outside of the ship, and they were screaming and crying and greeting\ntheir relatives that they had never expected to even see alive. They wouldn't\nlet them off the boat, because they had to be quarantined. They had to set up\ntents and different things for them to come and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5040.0,5070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be in. It was, they were like\npeople to people. They were hanging over the ship, screaming and hollering and\ntrying to point out different ones that were standing there to meet them. It\nwasn't, it's very hard to describe. They wanted to just jump off the boat, but\nwith joy. Everything, they were crying from joy. They were screaming from joy.\nMost of them were in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5070.0,5100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rags, but they were just so happy to be in the land of\nIsrael. Their relatives or whoever different ones, it would just seem like,\nwell, just seemed like people to people,\n\nwherever you looked. They were either on the land in front of us or they were on\nthese ships, hanging outside on the deck. It's just hard for me to describe. We\nstood there I guess for hours, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5100.0,5130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"never realizing that we started in the morning,\nthey came in in the morning, and it was already dusk, and we're still standing,\nand they haven't even gotten to first base as far as getting off the ship. As\nwe're standing and watching all of this, we did not feel the least bit tired or\n. . . I could have never done this, and I was much, much younger, I could have\nnever done it. It was just something that made you feel as if you were one with\nall these people and that you were there waiting for them to be taken off ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5130.0,5160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the\nboat. You wanted these Israelis that were going to take them off to hurry up and\nget them off. When we left, they were still there. We did not leave until they\nstarted taking them off the ship. It was just a sight to behold. I just don't\nhave the words to describe it.\n\nDIAMOND: That's just an emotional connection . . .\n\nBENAMY: That's right.\n\nDIAMOND: . . . that you felt?\n\nBENAMY: That's right. It was such a, I'm sure it was, the stars ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5160.0,5190.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"couldn't be\nreally that bright. I kept asking about it, because I thought, well, maybe it's\njust me. Of course, if you ask anyone in Israel a question like that, they say\nthey are, you know. I don't know. it was quite a feeling. Of course, I don't\nknow, I don't know how to capture that in words. If I was an artist, I don't\nthink I could even paint it, but I'm ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5190.0,5220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sure an artist could. They could never do\nthings justice, never. Never.\n\nDIAMOND: If you're ready to kind of take that experience back to the States, and\nyou're here as a parent raising children, I wonder if you might want to say\nsomething about how that experience and the others that followed with Israel\naffected your life and how you transmitted that feeling to your children.\n\nBENAMY: I don't really think that there is a different connection, because from\nthe moment we had children, it was, we wanted to give them the best Jewish\neducation possible, as well as public school and college and so forth and so on.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5220.0,5250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We just lived it day by day. There's no difference that I know of, that I'm\nconscious of, I'll put it that way, that that made any difference. The only\ndifference was me in marrying Sol. I feel that had I married anyone else, I\nwould have never become what I became. If I became anything at all, it was due\nto being married ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5250.0,5280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to a person that had all these ideals and impossible dreams,\nbut there was none that he did not make true. No matter how hard it was, not\njust in relation to Israel. He was just that way. I mean, anything that would be\ninsurmountable in any kind of discussion, and you would think it would be\nimpossible, if it was something that he felt had to be done, somehow it got done\nand he did it. I lived ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5280.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with that, see. That relates back when I said the first\nquestion, he asked me after we were married was would I be willing to live in\nPalestine. I really flippantly, I remember saying, \"Oh, I notice you didn't ask\nme that before I married you,\" you know, and then made a big joke out of it. Of\ncourse, he never gave up, which I will tie in with my firstborn, Freddie, a\nlittle, as far as ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5310.0,5340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"moving to Israel. He always had that in his mind. I will let\nyou know . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Let's talk about . . .\n\nBENAMY: When Freddie, it was getting close to his, my son, which they wouldn't\nknow, named Frederic, was getting close to bar mitzvah time, when he had to\nstart preparing, and Sol was determined that by his bar mitzvah, we would be in\nIsrael, and he would have his bar mitzvah in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5340.0,5370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Israel. He started . . .\n\nDIAMOND: You would be in Israel to live?\n\nBENAMY: To live, live, not just to go. You know, no one thought about at that\ntime as far as having bar mitzvahs in Israel. That was all in one thought. I\nmean, we would be in Israel and he\n\nwould be, we'd be living in Israel, and he would be bar mitzvahed, because even\nthough we hadn't gone, it never left his mind that we were going to move to\nIsrael. Sometimes before his ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5370.0,5400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"getting really prepared for his bar mitzvah, he\nwrote, my husband Sol wrote, his relatives that live in Israel about the plans\nand about moving there and about putting the house on the market for sale and\ngiving up his business and all this. All that. He had an uncle living there in\nIsrael with an orange grove. Then cousins. The uncle lived in Rehoboth. His\ncousins who lived in Haifa ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5400.0,5430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on Mount Carmel, they happened to have graduated the\nUniversity of Chicago together, got married, and went to Israel to live as part\nof their honeymoon. They had been there, of course, for quite a few years. The\nletters, the reason I'm mentioning them, these are the ones that he wrote to\nabout this. The different ones in the family immediately replied page after page\nafter page, none of them knowing what each other were ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5430.0,5460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"writing to him, how\nwonderful it would be, but discouragement, you have never read such\ndiscouragement, to give up what we think are necessities that are really\nluxuries to us, and to be the age that he was, and to come at that time, that\nthere would not even be anything that he could make a livelihood out of, things\nthat I'm sure my husband never thought about. Even when he got the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5460.0,5490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"first few\nletters, he was disgusted with them for writing such a thing. We were still\ngoing. For, oh, I don't know. I feel like it was for years, I felt suspended,\nlike I'm not here permanently because we're going to move to Israel. They\nfinally wrote enough and had people, even, that would come over to Atlanta that\nwould be Israelis that would be Zionists. They were going to speak, or they were\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5490.0,5520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going to do something. Or, if they were just sabra, a person born even in\nIsrael, to be sure and get in touch with my husband, with us. Everybody from\nIsrael and anybody even related to somebody to somebody to somebody that they\nknew, they would send to discourage us from coming to Israel. Because after all,\nthey didn't even have electric refrigerators and all. It's different when you're\nyoung ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5520.0,5550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or you . . . like, if we had gotten married, say, and gone on to Israel,\nwhen he asked me that question, to live, and your children and born there and\neverything else, it's a different story. Or it is a different story, people\nyoung enough to go and live on a kibbutz and contribute something that way.\nAfter all, what could he contribute except really be so happy to be in Israel.\nThey needed people that could really contribute. I don't know what he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5550.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would have\ndone to make a living. Anyway, it took quite a while for him to give up the\nthought, as I said. In the first place, he was very upset and almost angry that\nthey should write him such a thing. Then, since . . . when it finally came\nthrough to him that we probably wouldn't be going, then he got in touch with Dr.\nSteinberg, who was a Hebrew teacher at the Ahavath Achim Synagogue, which we\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5580.0,5610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"belonged to when we first got married, joined when we first got married. Which\nRabbi Harry H. Epstein was the rabbi, and still is rabbi emeritus now. This Dr.\nSteinberg, he called himself a doctor, I guess maybe a Doctor of Philosophy or\nsomething, but he was an Israeli. It would have to be an Israeli that would\nteach our son exactly the same kind of bar mitzvah that you would have in\nIsrael. He wanted him to say the Hebrew the way it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5610.0,5640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would be done, everything,\nwith the accent and all in Hebrew. Our son Freddie studied under him preparing\nfor . . . because at that time then, since we had given up, he had given up\nmoving there at that time, their letters had finally penetrated, he still wanted\nhim to have his bar mitzvah in Israel. We were going to Israel for his bar\nmitzvah. Freddie studied, and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5640.0,5670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"oh, it was so hard for him, but he never\ncomplained, but they made records of the didn't have tapes then . . . Excuse me.\n\nDIAMOND: Okay.\n\n[interview pauses, then resumes]\n\nDIAMOND: We were just talking about Freddie studying for his bar mitzvah, and\nthey were making a recording.\n\nBENAMY: Uh-huh, so that he would have these records to play at home and it would\nbe much easier for him. A regular bar mitzvah, without having to do all these\nthings that really weren't necessary, made it very hard for him. Anyway, he\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5670.0,5700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"studied, and he got the . . .\n\nDIAMOND: I'm going to stop this, because I think that, will it buzz like that?\n\nBENAMY: Yes. Stop it, just for a second.\n\n[interview pauses, then resumes]\n\nDIAMOND: All right. We'll start again without the interference.\n\nBENAMY: Golly, yeah. I don't really like the interference, because I forget what\nI'm saying besides.\n\nDIAMOND: You were talking about Freddie and studying the recording and doing\nmore than the average bar mitzvah.\n\nBENAMY: Yes, yes. He was. Anyway, and also, see, they speak in English here at a\nbar mitzvah. 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Before I tell you this, in\nthe ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5730.0,5760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"meantime, Dr., there was a Dr. Bardine who lived in New York who was head of\nBrandeis Camps. There was one in the state of New York and one in California. I\ndon't believe there were any more than those two. I'm not sure. My husband and\nhis friend Bob Travis decided that they needed a Jewish young leadership camp in\nthe South. 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It was going to be\nan insurmountable job to even buy the property, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5790.0,5820.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"much less build a camp, that\neveryone thought, but not for my husband. As long as that was the place that\nsuited, it was going to be done. He was going to have a Brandeis leadership\ntraining camp for young adults in Hendersonville, North Carolina. Among all the\nmillions of things he did, he included that in his agenda. Not long afterwards,\nthe camp got built. We had a Brandeis ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5820.0,5850.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"leadership training camp at\nHendersonville, North Carolina. The camp was completed about the time, they had\nalready started one of the sessions and so forth, and about the time that it\nlooked like we were not going to be able to go take Freddie to Israel for his\nbar mitzvah, a lot of things came up. One was business. I don't remember what\nall else, really. It was impossible to go to Israel at the time we were hoping\nto ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5850.0,5880.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go. We couldn't go. Dr. Bardine, who, of course, was not only grateful, but\nvery fond of my husband, said that he was going to do something that they had\nnever done before and they would never do again, but rather than have my\nhusband, who had worked so hard and be so disappointed, the next best thing to\nIsrael was letting Freddie have his bar mitzvah at his adult leadership training\ncamp. This is about two weeks, I get chills when I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5880.0,5910.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think about it, before the\nbar mitzvah date. He tells, which was in the summer, naturally. Freddie's\nbirthday was in August, and this bar mitzvah turned out to be right on his\nbirthday. He was 13. Dr. Bardine, about, I don't remember if it was ten days or\ntwo weeks before, he says to Freddie, \"You have to come to camp, and you'll have\nto stay there right up through your bar mitzvah.\" Now, these young boys and\ngirls ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5910.0,5940.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are not your age,\" et cetera, et cetera, \"but it will be liked you're\ngoing to be having\", \"it will be better than in Israel. The only difference, you\nwon't be in Israel. You will love it,\" and so forth and so on. We let Dr.\nBardine do all the talking, because we couldn't imagine that Freddie would, he\nwould do it; he'd do it for us. We would certainly want him too happily do it.\nHe shocked us. He was just tickled to go and stay. He goes up ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=5940.0,5970.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with Dr. Bardine.\nHe came to Atlanta. I don't remember if he picked him up or what. We didn't go.\nFreddie went only with him. After all, remember, there's no one his age. These\nare all . . . I don't remember if they were like seniors in high school or even,\ncertainly no one younger than 16. I don't remember those kids' age. Young adults\nis what they were. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6000.0,6030.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They all had such a fit over him in their\nmidst. They were all sitting around listening to a lecture. He's sitting there\nwith them. You could tell, he didn't know we were there. You could tell that he\nwas taking in all these things. He would never sit still for anything before,\nbecause his whole life is ball, which I will go into later. We didn't even want\nto ever go up to him. We almost went back home rather than ever let him know we\nwere ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6030.0,6060.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there. Because to disturb something like this, it was really unbelievable.\nOf course, we stayed. We were staying at a hotel in Hendersonville. After all,\nit is a resort up in the mountains. He was delighted, of course, when he saw us.\nIt was a surprise. He had no idea we were coming. No one was surprised than me\nand Sol at Freddie. Our worry was that he, if he stayed a day or two and came\nhome, or called us to come get him, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6060.0,6090.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is what we really expected, we never\nexpected him to stay and go through with this. He did. When the bar mitzvah\ncame, we had some friends from Atlanta who came up and some neighboring towns of\nJewish people that we knew and all, from going to so many Zionist, Southeastern\nand regional conferences and everything, so many of our friends came and all. It\njust turned out . . . which we took movies of and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6090.0,6120.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which we have, and it just,\noh, and we got a caterer that catered kosher food and had a beautiful but not in\nfancy silver platters and all, he catered a kosher lunch for all the campers, of\ncourse, and all the visitors and all the guests. It was just absolutely, and\nsomething else. His bar mitzvah was beautiful, actually, and he did great, and\nwhat Dr. Steinberg didn't do, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6120.0,6150.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the teachers and everybody, the counselors and\nwhat have you up there at camp that really gave Freddie the finishing touches to\nhis bar mitzvah, and that night was a big to-do, and he is dancing with his,\nhe's so little, short, and his arms are around their thighs during the hora [sp]\nand all. In fact, I'll show you a little picture thing when we're through of him\ndancing with them, the hora and all. It was very exciting, and it was something\nunusual and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6150.0,6180.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something that was never done before. Then when the Southern\nIsraelite came out, there was a whole section with his picture and the campers'\npictures and the guests and everything. It was really quite a deal .DIAMOND:\nThat's quite an honor to be allowed a privilege of doing that . . .\n\nBENAMY: That's right.\n\nDIAMOND: . . . ceremony there in that setting.\n\nBENAMY: It really was. Though my husband deserved anything that had never been\ndone ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6180.0,6210.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before, because they never would have had, but still, it was something he\nwould have never asked for and never even thought about, because it was\nsomething that certainly was never done, and you would never think about it. Dr.\nBardine evidently couldn't stand the disappointment in my husband's face or his\nwhole attitude, I don't know, that he thought about even doing that. That really\nmade everything right.\n\nDIAMOND: In ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6210.0,6240.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"those days it wasn't real popular for girls to be bat mitzvahed . . .\n\nBENAMY: No.\n\nDIAMOND: Was your daughter involved in a ceremony as well?\n\nBENAMY: No, no, nothing different. This just happened at that time, and so, I\nmean, nothing than any other bat mitzvah, nothing special.\n\nDIAMOND: Did she have bat mitzvah?\n\nBENAMY: Both of my children started in Sunday School at the first grade. They\ngraduated everything they had at the synagogue. Freddie was in the very first\nHebrew ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6240.0,6270.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"class, graduated Hebrew School, the first class they had at the AA\nSynagogue. There were only six boys. You know now what a membership, well, it\nwas never a small congregation. He was in the first Hebrew class they had, and\nhe graduated that. They graduated everything that they could graduate from, as\nfar as their Jewish education.\n\nDIAMOND: The girls were allowed . . .\n\nBENAMY: Confirmation and . . .\n\nDIAMOND: . . . to participate in those Hebrew classes? Did . . .\n\nBENAMY: No, I don't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6270.0,6300.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think girls could, no. I don't think there were, there were\nno girls, but I don't even think at that time there was even a thought about\ngirls being, it was just taken for granted that the Hebrew class would be boys.\n\nDIAMOND: It was not really offered to girls?\n\nBENAMY: No, not to my knowledge. I didn't give it a thought. I realize there\nwere only six boys in the class. There were only six boys in that first Hebrew\nclass they had, which they\n\ncalled Hebrew, it was a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6300.0,6330.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"class of Hebrew School that they were starting, see.\nNow, this happened to Freddie after he graduated from that Hebrew class when he\nwas 15. This is after his bar mi tzvah.\n\nDIAMOND: Right. Continuing education?\n\nBENAMY: That's right, that's right. Which all of them good Jews. Now, the\ndifference in the Hebrew education with my grandchildren, which they, boys, when\nthey were bar mitzvah, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6330.0,6360.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I know of, maybe, because we're not, we weren't,\nwe're not Orthodox. We, and even the synagogue changed from Orthodox to\nConservative. I don't know if they continued. It seemed to me after their bar\nmitzvah, they stopped going to everything. My grandchildren continued Minyanmres\n[sp]. I've got four grandsons. They've all been bar mitzvahed there. They've all\ngone through the same things; except they've gone further. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6360.0,6390.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They've been\npresident of the Minyanmres, going on Saturday morning after their bar mitzvah.\nIn fact, now that I'm saying this, I want to show you something. Of course, when\nI show you something, you want to stop that while I get it?\n\nDIAMOND: We're almost towards the end.\n\nBENAMY: Okay. I'll show you afterwards. I was going to show you about one of my\ngrandsons was, he even won a scholarship, Rita's oldest boy. My daughter's\noldest boy has a gorgeous, gorgeous ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6390.0,6420.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"voice, like a cantor. In fact, the cantor\nsaid that he put him in the shade.\n\nDIAMOND: What kind of scholarship did he get?\n\nBENAMY: He got a scholarship for Jewish studies in Israel if he wanted to\ncontinue his, you know, studying in Jewish studies and so forth and so on,\nmainly with the thought of becoming a cantor, as far as the cantor was\nconcerned. He did not take up the, that was what I was going to show you,\nbecause his, he has a picture and a write-up in the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6420.0,6450.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"paper about winning this and\nso forth and so on. He did not, he has been to Israel on a Jewish study group\nand so forth. He was not interested in becoming a cantor or anything along those\nlines. He went to Emory [University] and graduated. I only have one that's, one\ngrandchild is 15. All the others are college graduates now.\n\nDIAMOND: You have, you said, four grandsons . . .\n\nBENAMY: I've got four grandsons and one granddaughter. You know my\ngranddaughter, I'm sure.\n\nDIAMOND: One granddaughter. Was her Jewish education different than your\ndaughter's, in terms ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6450.0,6480.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of did she have bat mitzvah or . . .\n\nBENAMY: No. The only difference . . . I mean, no difference in the education.\nThey just did not have; they did not grow up in a home with that feeling for\nIsrael that happened in our home. Because Freddie, even though he's my son . . .\nwell, I will say, when he graduated high school, Sol insisted that he go to\nIsrael, mainly because Cantor ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6480.0,6510.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Schwartzman, who was previously rabbi in Augusta,\nGeorgia, and used to come to Atlanta to speak at different meetings and so\nforth, mostly Zionist meetings, and he would be in our home, well, he moved or\nwas transferred or got a rabbinate at Cincinnati [Ohio], a marve1ous, though\nhe's nationally known, maybe internationally, but nationally anyway, a\nwonderful, wonderful man. In those days, which . . . of course, he's younger now\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6510.0,6540.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too than we are, but it wasn't as much difference like in his age with a boy\nthat would graduate high school as maybe our contemporaries and so forth and so\non. Anyway, he knew Freddie, and he was taking a group to Israel. Sol naturally\nwanted him to go with this group, mainly to have Rabbi Schwartzman be with this\ngroup to Israel. Freddie really did not want to go, because he was wrapped up in\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6540.0,6570.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ball, and he was going to the University of Georgia in September, and this was\ngoing to be his last summer, probably, at home to be playing ball. He was on a\ncity team and different teams. He was just so reluctant. He really did just\nabout everything he could think of to try to get out of it. 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He acted like . . .\nRabbi Schwartzman acted like, I'm sure, that that group just couldn't get along\nwithout him, or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6600.0,6630.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some words to that effect. I really don't know what he said.\n\nDIAMOND: How did you . . .\n\nBENAMY: Freddie condescended. I never did any . . . as far as how I really felt,\nI felt like, oh, I hope he'll go, but I mean I did not, it wasn't going to tear\nme apart if he didn't. Because I knew, in my mind, things like this would pop\nup. People that are in business and they have a son, they want them to do . . .\nbe in that business ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6630.0,6660.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or a lawyer. They want them to study law and be taken in\nthat business. I felt like I wanted my children, even though they knew all about\nthings and understood, I still wanted them to have their own life to do what\nthey wanted to do and enjoy it. Of course, have education about everything. They\nwere certainly trained to think of people less fortunate, I hope, and be\ncharitable and give of themselves. I did not, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6660.0,6690.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thought a wonderful thing like\nthis, to have to persuade him and do it against his wishes, it just wasn't worth\nit. I mean, you asked me how I felt. That's how I felt. Whereas Sol felt like he\njust had to go. I mean, how could anyone not? He did not feel the same way I\ndid, I'm sure. That's why I feel that he must have called Rabbi Schwartzman. Of\ncourse, if he hadn't have gone, it wouldn't have destroyed my husband, but he\nwanted him ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6690.0,6720.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to go real bad. Anyway, he went. You're watching the clock?\n\nDIAMOND: Yes.\n\nBENAMY: I mean, time, everything reminds me of something else.\n\nDIAMOND: Just keep talking.\n\nBENAMY: They get to Israel. They have the trip. It also included going to France\nand Switzerland and England, the group also included that in their visit to\nIsrael. Anyway, in Israel . . . I'm trying to cut out as much as possible . . .\nsomehow or another . . . and as I say, I don't know if they were tipped off or\nif it just happened naturally, but they had a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6720.0,6750.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"woman reporter working for the\nJewish Post, Jerusalem Post, not the Jewish Post, the Jerusalem Post, and she\ninterviewed Freddie out of this group when he got to Jerusalem. Of course, we\nonly knew about the interview and so forth when this reporter sent this into the\nSouthern Israelite, being from Atlanta and so forth. We read it for the first\ntime, this article about his interview in Israel, in the Southern Israelite.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6750.0,6780.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Though we had gotten several letters by the time he got to Jerusalem anyway, of\nhis excitement and how happy he was that he made that trip and so forth. Anyway,\nthe interview was absolutely unbelievable, the way this lady described Freddie.\nFirst of all, she said that he was a boy that Israel would love to have in\nIsrael. Oh, I forgot to tell you. 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This is Tape\n2, Side B, on Monday, November 18th, 1985. Let's talk a little bit now about\nboth your children and their growing years and how you used the summers to\nprovide for their continued Jewish education.\n\nBENAMY: All right. When my daughter Rita was 7 and my son ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=6930.0,6960.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Freddie was 9, we\ndrove them to New York and gave them a sightseeing trip before journeying\nfurther to a camp called Sedgeman [sp] Camps in the Pocono Mountains, which was\nrun by Rabbi DeSola Poole and his wife. Of course, both of them would be ardent\nZionists, being . . . being Jewish was enough. 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We had to get out of the\ncar and go and bring some young counselors and so forth with a ball in their\nhand to tell them that they played ball there, and a lot of it, and so forth.\nThey finally got him out of the car with the ball, just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7020.0,7050.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sobbing so that it broke\nmy heart to leave him. I thought, how can I do it? I thought it would be, how\ncould I leave my little 7-year-old? Both so tiny. She could not wait to get out\nof the car, as I said. Anyway, they were at camp and of course the crying got\nover, I'm sure, as soon as we pulled away and left them there. They loved it and\nthey enjoyed it. 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Even after my\ndaughter married and she had three little boys, they went to Blue Star, and she\nwent ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7080.0,7110.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in as a leader and on the faculty and in charge of teenagers there, for\nquite a few summers. As far as the Popkin boys were concerned, she would still\nbe there, but she had to quit sometimes. She gave that up. We were fortunate\nthat they all were athletes and loved sports. Everybody, my husband loved\nsports, but he was a spectator, and he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7110.0,7140.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just never missed any, all of them played\nin the Little Leagues. These are the five grandchildren. Look at the size, on\nthe wall, the picture. The girl, she was a pitcher, and continued to be a\npitcher until she graduated high school with ball. They all played ball, and\nthey all loved it, including their mother, me. I was, and still am, very short,\nas you can see. 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It so happened, and not only did I love ball, but I was unusually small,\nas ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7170.0,7200.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my children were, to be excelling in any kind of, especially basketball.\n\nDIAMOND: Especially basketball?\n\nBENAMY: Especially basketball. I used to run between their legs and pitch in the\nbaskets and all in playing. The principal of the school was also the coach. He\nhappened to be, and I don't know if you even recall the name, M. E. Thompson,\nwho became in later life lieutenant governor of the State of Georgia. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7200.0,7230.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He\nnicknamed me Littlun, L-I-T-T-L-U-N. Of course, I had to introduce him to my\nhusband so he could convert him to being a Zionist, too. When he met my husband,\nwho also was short, I guess that reminded him to not say anything about Rose,\nbut he called me Littlun the whole time he was with us. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7230.0,7260.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Even after I was\nmarried, we were in contact. He was, his home is Valdosta, Georgia. I think he\nstill lives in Valdosta, Georgia. That is, after he quit teaching school and he\nmoved to Valdosta, and then when he became lieutenant governor, of course, he\nwas in Atlanta, and then he went back after serving as lieutenant governor to\nValdosta, Georgia. That's just in parentheses, as we were talking, which\nreminded me.\n\nDIAMOND: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7260.0,7290.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let's talk a little bit about your daughter and how you see her today\nas similar. You said she's interested in ball.\n\n.BENAMY: She . . .\n\nDIAMOND: Was different . . .\n\nBENAMY: Now, she is different from Freddie inasmuch as that she did not make her\nlife altogether in ball. Now, she went to the University of Miami, and she\ngraduated the University of Miami. While she was in Miami, she helped organize\nSigma Delta Tau, the Jewish sorority, and became their first president. 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I had a big engagement party in December during their\nChristmas vacations to be home, before their wedding, which was a week apart,\none in Miami and one in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, and I have to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7350.0,7380.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tell you about\nthis. She had to have it in Miami because she had made some very, very dear\nfriends, but that wasn't the reason. They were getting married a week apart, so\ngraduation, she did not want to just take her diploma. She wanted to be on the\nstage graduation night. 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The groom's mother, his father\npassed away at a very early age, and his mother came, and she ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7410.0,7440.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gave a rehearsal\ndinner at the Evenrock [sp] Hotel, and it was a real, real big to-do, except\nRita had wanted Rabbi Epstein to be there, since he couldn't marry. He couldn't\nbe down there at the wedding. Anyway, we had a rabbi, which my husband, don't\nforget, we knew everybody in the South, and especially rabbis, because of him\nbeing president of the Zionists and president of the Southeastern ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7440.0,7470.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Region and\njust going and contacting every Jewish person that you can know. It wasn't any\nproblem as far as having a rabbi that we knew and all like that. Then we\nactually went on part of their honeymoon, because when they got married, the\ngraduation was so scheduled that we had at midnight, it didn't get over until\nmidnight. 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We had to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7500.0,7530.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"drive all night to get there from Miami to Hattiesburg.\nWe are in the car . . . we had flown to Florida, naturally, so Ronnie, her\ngroom, and Rita and me and Sol are driving to their home. They spent their\nhoneymoon going to her brother's wedding?\n\nBENAMY: No. We spent a week, I forgot to tell you. We spent a week . . . she\ndid, too, after their wedding to wait for this. I knew it was, to wait for that\nnight of graduation. We had plenty of time. 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That was for a Friday\nnight, a regular Friday night, you know, where you ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7590.0,7620.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go . . . we were dead-tired.\nFriday night I don't remember too much about, because we were just dead-tired.\nThen they had in Hattiesburg everything planned. I mean, there was a Saturday\nbreakfast and, I can't remember. Saturday afternoon was rest time.\n\nDIAMOND: Did they have a Jewish community there?\n\nBENAMY: Yeah, they have a Jewish community. No, that wasn't like Hawkinsville, Georgia.\n\nDIAMOND: That's what I wondered.\n\nBENAMY: No, no. They had a . . . well, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7620.0,7650.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's a small town, I mean, but nothing\nlike Hawkinsville. It's a city in comparison to Hawkinsville. They had quite a\nfew Jewish . . .\n\nDIAMOND: There was a synagogue ready?\n\nBENAMY: Oh, yeah. They have a temple. They had a temple. Their wedding was in\nthe temple. It's just too bad I can't show pictures of both weddings and all.\nThey were both beautiful, and the temple wedding was with bridesmaids and\neverything, just beautiful. The rabbi was wonderful. 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He was active in the Jewish Home before they built the\nnew Jewish Home, which was over, you know, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7740.0,7770.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"where the Progressive Club . . .\n\nDIAMOND: 14th Street?\n\nBENAMY: Right. When [the] new Jewish Home was built, don't forget, he was up in\nthe age that he didn't have to worry about business too much, so he spent a lot\nof time at the Jewish Home, but every Saturday helping with religious services.\nHe was like a fixture on Saturday to all the residents as far as in the services\nand all. You know Jack Friedman, I'm sure, and all. 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He makes a living during the week in the tile construction, tile\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7830.0,7860.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"installation business, and every weekend is spent with not playing himself, but\nhe has . . . and this is skipping over a lot of different things he did with\nsports. This is getting up to the present time with sports. He coaches a girls\nsoftball team, high school through age 18, starting high school. Eighteen is the\nmaximum age of them. He of course receives no money. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7860.0,7890.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They travel all over. He\nbuys a van to go to these ball games and so forth and all with them. What I\nwanted to show you is, the name of his girls are the Brats. Of course, I know\nyou've been to their home, and you've seen hundreds of trophies and all that\nstuff that he's gotten. His slogan or whatever, his logo, is How About Them\nBrats. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7890.0,7920.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They are the first softball team to ever bring a championship back to\nAtlanta. These girls, as I'm sure, they're the national champs. This is all\nabout them, 1983.\n\nDIAMOND: Is this a Jewish team?\n\nBENAMY: No. This is all, this is mixed. This is all, sometimes there are some\nJewish girls, and, in fact, Lauren was in it until she graduated. Lauren, in\nfact, my granddaughter, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7920.0,7950.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gave them the name the Brats.\n\nDIAMOND: He has really . . .\n\nBENAMY: What I wanted to tell you about, I mean, show you about, let me see if I\nhave, yeah. This will give you a little understanding of Freddie. I am not going\nto read all this. \"Brats Bring Slow-Pitch National Championship Back to\nAtlanta.\" That's not what I want to . . .\n\nDIAMOND: He's really made an effort in community service, sports?\n\nBENAMY: That's right. I wanted to tell you what is more important, too, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7950.0,7980.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that he\nhas received scholarship for girls out that are playing, and he tries only to\nget the kind of girls that play that would need and be eligible to get and\ncouldn't afford to go to college. This is all in this big write-up that you see.\nIt says, \"Benamy graduated from the\", I'll just take a portion, \"University of\nGeorgia in ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=7980.0,8010.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1958 with a degree in physical education, but after surveying the job\nmarket, Benamy left athletics and switched to business. Back then, there was not\nany money in teaching or coaching, so he switched.\" He had to make a living.\n\nDIAMOND: I think the important thing is how proud you are that he has been able to,\n\nBENAMY: Yeah. I wanted to read. \"For 20 years, including 13 seasons as a coach\nwith the Briarcliff Community Sports Program, Benamy worked with young people,\nteaching them about sports and competition,\" et ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8010.0,8040.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"cetera, et cetera. Mentions that\nhe is never, he makes his living during the week. Because he loves, I mean, he\nloves this with the same enthusiasm and all that his daddy did in working for a\nJewish state. He is, there's just nothing that he gets more pleasure out of, and\nhe's so good at it, that, yeah, I'm very happy for both of my children, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8040.0,8070.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because\nthey are so happy in what they do. That's one of the most important things in life.\n\nDIAMOND: Freddie's going so much good for young people.\n\nBENAMY: Right. In this article, it says, \"Who knows how many he saved from going\ninto dope,\" and all the other things, you know. That's why I said, that's the\nmain thing about it, that what he's doing for them, as well as getting all this\npleasure for himself, they're having fun, and they all adore him, and he's good\nat it, evidently. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8070.0,8100.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As I said, they won this championship. You never could in the\npast get scholarships for girls. You know what's happening today. That's quite\nan accomplishment, that he has girls playing that can have a scholarship and\nthat has gotten scholarships. That's wonderful, too.\n\nDIAMOND: How do you feel about the fact that he's chosen to be involved with\ngirls' softball rather than boys? Is that . . .\n\nBENAMY: Because . . . nothing at all. Because he ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8100.0,8130.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"still plays in games with me\nand with men, he's with tennis. I'm especially proud that he's with girls,\nbecause these girls' mothers, they\n\nwrite letters to Gloria, his wife, and Freddie, just can't thank each of them\nenough for having, letting him do this, and having him do this, and what it\nmeans to the parents of these girls.\n\nThat makes it . . .\n\nDIAMOND: He's a unique . . .\n\nBENAMY: It is.\n\nDIAMOND: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8130.0,8160.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let me ask you this. You worked before you were married. Then when you\ngot married, you stopped working to take care of your family. Do you need to\nstop this a minute?\n\nBENAMY: Yeah. Cut that off. I wanted to just show you something.\n\n[interview pauses, then resumes]\n\nDIAMOND: You just showed me an announcement about the Style Shop that you had\nbeen a part of before your married life. I just heard you say that when your dad\nhad the department store, he went to New York by himself, but when he had the\nStyle Shop with you, you all would come to Atlanta together. How do you feel,\nlike your daughter's lifestyle today, does she work? How do you feel about that?\nOr did she stop working to raise a family? What is your opinion about women . . .\n\nBENAMY: All right. Now I would . . .\n\nDIAMOND: . . . in the work force and being married?\n\nBENAMY: I'm going to tell you about my daughter. 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All, the way my children are and my daughter, the way her\nlife turned out, I never had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8190.0,8220.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"any cause or reason or, and the way I was brought\nup, it was just a natural thing as far, there was no difference in that respect\nbetween a man and a woman. Rita, my daughter, she came back, they came back from\ntheir honeymoon. They immediately lived in Miami for, until she got pregnant. I\ndon't remember if it was, it would have been almost two years, I think. She\nimmediately got a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8220.0,8250.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"school in Dade County and went to work teaching. She has\ntaught 25 years. They've been married 25 years and five months. She's been\nteaching 25 years and give months. She is not teaching now, but she's working,\nwhich I'll tell you about, in the school system. She taught physical education\nright on through two pregnancies, and her third pregnancy, she taught part of\nthat pregnancy. Then she ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8250.0,8280.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"attended college at Georgia State and got, she has\nthree master's degrees, all in different education. The first was PE. All right.\nWhen she was pregnant with her youngest child, she got her master's degree in\nreading; well , she taught after . . . she taught, by the way, in high school\nonly physical education in high school. When she was pregnant with the third\nchild, that master's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8280.0,8310.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was specialized reading. They, she stopped PE sooner than\nshe did with her other pregnancies, and lost out, they got another PE teacher,\nbecause they could not hold that job for her throughout her entire pregnancy,\nwhereby she didn't do that with the first two children. She went and got her\nMaster's, and when she got that reading degree, they needed a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8310.0,8340.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remedial reading\nteacher at grammar school, which was near her home. Lakeside High School was\nnear where she lived. She would not take a job that was not close to home. After\nall, she did have three children. She taught remedial reading for I think maybe\na couple of years. She was very dissatisfied with it. She didn't enjoy it like\nshe did her PE. She also really didn't ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8340.0,8370.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"care about teaching grammar school. She\ngets a master's degree, but this I didn't even know about until it happened. I\nknew she was going to Georgia State, but I didn't think about her getting her\nMaster's in any, I didn't know what she was taking anymore. Anyway, it turned\nout that she got a degree in administration and, just a minute. Let me think of\nthe word.\n\n[interview pauses, then resumes]\n\nBENAMY: . . . and supervision. She got ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8370.0,8400.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that. Soon as she finished out whatever\nterm she had there when school was out, I don't know how this happened to her,\nexcept that they needed someone in administration and supervision. She's been\nvery, very fortunate with her education and getting what she does. She is, if\nnot the, one of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8400.0,8430.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"highest-paid members of personnel in Dekalb County now. She\nis no longer teaching and hasn't been since she got this Master's. That's\nrecent, because she taught, I don't remember how many years, but very few years,\nmaybe a couple, of this remedial reading. It was very fortunate; she had no idea\nthat she would ever be in this or would there be an opportunity for this. All\nshe knew was that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8430.0,8460.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she really wasn't happy teaching grammar school remedial\nreading. The opening came up for this, and there were quite a few applicants. I\ndon't remember how many. They had to take some kind of test, certain degree. I\ndon't know what all. They were interviewed by people, higher-ups and all. She is\nnow doing in this last master's that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8460.0,8490.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she took, and very, very happy, and just\nabsolutely loves it as much as she did physical education, maybe more. I don't know.\n\nDIAMOND: I know you're proud of her.\n\nBENAMY: I am proud of both of them. As I say, they have always been so busy.\nThey have never had time to get in trouble in growing up. They really haven't.\nBecause sports, as I said, any spare time, and Rita, I gave her, I was the one\nthat was busy and worn ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8490.0,8520.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out. In those days there was no school buses or anything.\nI had to take them to, after all, my husband did work a little bit. Now, he was\nfortunate, too, that he and his brother were in business together. They were\nvery, very close. They were only 14 months apart. One loved to do what the other\none didn't. That was a very, very lucky, happy combination. His brother Joe\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8520.0,8550.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"liked to stay in the business, liked to travel around, they had chain studios\nfrom different cities, and go visit. That gave Sol time to stay home and do his\ndirty work, I call it, not be tied down to the business, which helped. You do\nhave to make a living, too, especially when all of the time that he put out for\nthings and got remuneration for it except his own self-satisfaction, which of\ncourse is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8550.0,8580.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wonderful. I mean, but you also have to, you have to live. Not\neverybody could put in the time that he did for all the things that he did. It\nwas fortunate in that respect, too. The children, huh?\n\nDIAMOND: Is your daughter involved in any volunteer work?\n\nBENAMY: That's what I was getting to. Now, Rita also, and I don't know how she\nhas as much time to have done what she's done. Right now, she is the only woman\non the executive board of the Atlanta Jewish Community ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8580.0,8610.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Center. This is why I\nbrought this book, because I can't remember all the things. This is Carrie\nRosenthal and Rita Klee to receive the Jewish Welfare Board Leadership\nRecognition Award. This was given to her in Chicago, where she and Carrie\nRosenthal attended, they really, they were two members of the Atlanta Jewish\nCommunity Center board of directors that were given national ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8610.0,8640.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"recognition by\nreceiving the 1982 Jewish Welfare Board's Leadership Recognition Award at a\nbiannual convention in Chicago. That was May 12th and 16th. I think that was,\nand that was 1982. At that time, the theme of the institute, which I naturally\nam very proud, was Devoa Vidoa [sp], which in Hebrew is From Generation to\nGeneration. I get chill bumps when ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8640.0,8670.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I look at all these things. Then there was\nsomething, oh, there's been several awards and things. This was Fine and Klee to\nattend a seminar. Now, Lowell Fine and Rita Klee have been selected to attend a\nspecial leadership seminar in Israel for key community delegates registered to\nthe Israel Information Desk, sponsored by the Jewish Community Center program.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8670.0,8700.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. Now, after that, Rita, another thing that she did, the Jewish Welfare\nBoard selected 15 cities, Atlanta being one, to send somebody to represent the\nJewish Community Center and go to Israel on really a fact-finding mission to see\nwhat they could come up with, or whoever went could come up with, something that\nwould be for youngsters, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8700.0,8730.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"young people, to do in Atlanta in cooperation with\nIsrael. They came up, or she happened to be elected to go, be the\nrepresentative. When I say \"they,\" I don't know who went with her then, or if\nanybody. Since she was in the school system and all, she really was a good a\nperson to go and do this. She came up with the idea, or found the idea, that\nthey could have an exchange program, which they call ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101#t=8730.0,8760.0"},{"id":"https://thebreman.aviaryplatform.com/collections/994/collection_resources/101389/file/200101/transcript/46456/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yehud [sp] Atlanta, where\nthese Jewish youngsters in the summertime could come to Atlanta and stay in\nprivate homes and sightsee and learn all about Jewish life in the States. These\nAtlanta children could go to Israel and stay in a private home and have the same\nkind of experience in Israel that the Israelis were having here. 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